1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Ron an aium a lot of battery failures this week 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: in the show. It's called down baby, all right, and 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: nothing more frustrating than the examples of vehicles that were 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: in three weeks ago. Those batteries tested absolutely fine. They 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: are in cars that range in age from three to 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: four years old. And those three cars boll took batteries. 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Who was a car, there was a car the car Doctor. 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: I think Ford wants you to use an impact and 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: just zingamount. Oh boy, the Ford method. 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: I fogged to crack them up a little bit. And 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 2: then they have a problem that you pour it on into. 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Yes, well, yes, yeah, we like that. 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anium the Car Doctor. 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: the phone and call in the garage doors. 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take your calls 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six oh ninety nine hundred 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: and now he. 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: Running. 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: I want to just touch briefly, and I know we've 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: got phone calls, and just if everybody bears with me 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: a second on batteries. I got to talk about it again. 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: You know, the battery on slaught at the shop just 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: continues this week and it wasn't even a super cold 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: week like it was the previous week. We did more 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: than the average number of batteries that we do. And 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, the average age of the batteries replaced this week, 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: because I kept track, was three and a half years. 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: A few of the batteries were replaced this week. We're 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: four years old, four years old, newer vehicles, and it 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: seems that the more electronics on the vehicle, the sooner 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: we're changing the battery. And I just you know, I 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: noticed those things. I you know, because I question it 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: why some of them were just starting to crank slow. 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: But then when you bring them in and you test them, 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: you know their borderline, and you know where is that? 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: Where is that cut off? Where do we say, okay, 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: you know, here's the line, here's the line in the sand. 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: You know that's it. We're because getting stuck with a 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: battery is just no fun. We had a newer Volkswagen 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: Rabbit this week. We had a twenty one Lexus RX 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: three fifty. This week. We had more than a few Toyotas, 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: but we see a lot of Toyotas in the shop because, 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: let's face it, that's probably I think that's probably the 47 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: number one selling vehicle in parts of the country nowadays. 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's just it's just interesting. I want 49 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: not to Audo Batteries dot Com and I started looking 50 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: at the website just just looking for is there a 51 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: reason here? Is there a trend here? And I've got 52 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: to say they you know, I like the way they 53 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: break it down, you know, reasons for replacing an automotive battery, 54 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: natural wear and tear. Most batteries last three to five years. 55 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: They point out performance declines do to aging and chemical depletion. 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: And I think that the reason that we're seeing this 57 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: rapid decline in batteries again is the electronics cold weather performance. 58 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Old batteries struggle to perform in cold temperatures, leading to 59 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: unreliable starts in winter. That's probably the best statement I've 60 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: seen explaining the cause for the reason why you want 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: to change a battery sooner rather than later. It's no fun. 62 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: You know, if the car doesn't start at home, eh, 63 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: big deal, You'll go back inside. You get know, a 64 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: couple of coffee, your cold TRIPLEA. The car doesn't start 65 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: when you come out to work at five, from work 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: at five o'clock, or from the mall, and you're stuck 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: sitting in the car for an hour waiting for a 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: road service to show up. That's no fun and depending 69 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: upon the time of day or night, it can be 70 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: a dangerous situation. You know, there are warning signs of 71 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: failure auto batteries. Dot Com points out signs like slow engine, cranking, 72 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: dim lights, dashboard warnings indicating need for replacement. And I 73 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: think it's a general sense. One of the vehicles I 74 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: sat in this week that ended up getting a battery, 75 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't there for a battery. The customer dropped it off. 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: I got in the car, I said, why this thing 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: just it started? But if you were paying careful attention, 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: you just noticed that it seemed to crank a little slow. 79 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: And when I quiz the customer, they said, yeah, I've 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: noticed that it doesn't seem to have the oomph is 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: the word that they used. And you know, she said, 82 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: but I thought it was just normal, just normal age 83 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: wear and tear. I gave it a battery low test. 84 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: The battery passed by the skin of its teeth, and 85 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: to me, the margin of that skin of your teeth 86 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: is very close. And that car got a battery, and 87 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: then you know, it's about preventive maintenance, replacing the battery 88 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: before it fails. I'm amazed at people, and I don't 89 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: want to insult anybody listening, but you know what, if 90 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: you're driving a battery more than five years old, I 91 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: think you're nuts. It's just that simple. I think you're 92 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: just rolling the dice. And I think you're the exception 93 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: to the rule. And I don't know where you want 94 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: to be in the food in terms of, you know, 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: battery failures that catch you by surprise, you know, for 96 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: something that's so easily to be solved. You know again, 97 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: it's it's trends and patterns. They last, They last somewhere 98 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: between three and five years. After five years, I think 99 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: you roll in the dice. And then it's all the 100 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: modern features of the last thing that they point out 101 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: at ALTA Batteries dot Com on this page that I 102 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: was looking at, and it says newer vehicles have advanced 103 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: electronics that require a fully functional battery for proper operation. 104 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: We had a twenty two what was it it was 105 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: a twenty two. It was a twenty two Subaru that 106 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: took a battery this week. And she was pointing out 107 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: to me that she's noticed the computers the car and 108 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: the dashboard doing funny things, lights when she's trying to 109 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: start it, and the different things that it goes through, 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: and then it comes up with erratic error warning messages 111 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: and you know, we did our due diligence diagnosis, and yeah, 112 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: they standing voltage on the battery was twelve point one. 113 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: That's a bad battery. A twelve volt battery. You know, 114 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: this is right up there with him from the government, 115 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: and I'm here to help because it'll make no sense. 116 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: Is a standing twelve volt battery? Standing voltage on a 117 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: twelve volt battery should be twelve and a half vaults 118 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: twelve point four. Anything less than that, you got a problem. 119 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: It either needs to be charged or it needs to 120 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: be replaced. But you should get it load tested and 121 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, get your mechanic to look at it. It's 122 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: just the simple things, you know. I'm telling you. The 123 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: pile of batteries at the shop, I don't know, this 124 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: is the first year I'm really noticing it. How many 125 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: batteries were changing. It's it's like an ever revolving Thank 126 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: thank God for the parts houses. Well, i'll tell you what. 127 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: That poor guy shows up, We're giving him back battery 128 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: course three four five a day. You know, it's got 129 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: to be backbreaking work. You think about the guys behind 130 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: the scenes in order to repair that, you know, help 131 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: keep the country moving. Never mind the mechanics that are 132 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: actually fixing the car. The people that take back battery 133 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: cores deserve a metal because those things are heavy and 134 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: that's all they do is pick up, you know, forty 135 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: pound batteries, fifty pound batteries every day and you know, 136 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: lug those things around. So kudos to them. You know, 137 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate that quick piece of email. And then we'll 138 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: take the pause. Hey, Ron, longtime listener, regular to the 139 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: podcast and always like looking at your YouTube channel. And anyway, 140 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: my question is, with all the technology and computers at 141 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: new cars have today, I love this question, Larry. With 142 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: all the technology and computers that new cars have today, 143 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: why is it that when a car generates an error code, 144 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: it can't be displayed on a page in the infotainment 145 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: system in terms that an average person can understand. Instead 146 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: of turning on a dashboard warning light and having to 147 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: plug in an OBD two connection. I understand that OBD 148 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: two digs much deeper, but we've beneficial up a basic 149 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: understanding what the AER code and why that dashboard light 150 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: is on in real words rather than a code number. 151 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for your entertainment and knowledgeable podcast. All the best, 152 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 1: Larry and Wanta on New York. You know, Larry, back 153 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: in the I'll show you how far we've come back 154 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: in the late eighties, you could touch the climate control 155 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: buttons on a Cadillac of that era and it would 156 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: display trouble codes and you could actually diagnose the car 157 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: through the climate control head. You could see when the 158 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: throttle switch was open, when the throttle switch was closed, 159 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: you could see whether the vehicle was running Richard Lean 160 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: depending upon which way the LEDs would blink. It was 161 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: really quite a fascinating system. And this is in the eighties, 162 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: and you know, it seems like as time went on 163 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: we did away with that and you can't do nearly 164 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: anything like that anymore. And you know, frankly, I like 165 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: your idea. I've often said that myself, why can't we 166 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: display trouble codes on dashboards? Of cars at least to 167 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: give somebody you know, they're traveling and they're in the 168 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, they're five hundred miles from the nearest 169 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: anything you know, and to explain the severity of the light. Hey, 170 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: you've got a P zero one thirty five h two 171 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: cents or fault. You know, don't worry, the car is 172 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: going to run back up mode. Get it to your 173 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: nearest mechanic within the next five hundred miles or something, 174 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, or you know it's got a P zero 175 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: three to zero two, it's got a cylinder misfire. That 176 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: shutter you're feeling is because the engine isn't running smooth. 177 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: You can do damage if operating, but you know, get 178 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: it looked at right away. I think information, look Larry, 179 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: and for everybody else. I'm never going to say giving 180 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: somebody information is a bad thing. It's it's what that 181 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: person does with it. Maybe part of the problem is 182 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: the concern becomes that if we tell people what's wrong 183 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: with it, if the car is running normal, we're going 184 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: to train them to ignore the problem. Whereas if you know, 185 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: the check engine lights on, they don't know what's causing 186 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: the code, they're going to be curious enough to get 187 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: it to a mechanic to get it scoped or scanned rather, 188 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe a repair is put into effect 189 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: from there. But you know it's I agree. I think 190 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: the technology is there. I think we go the long 191 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: way to accomplish certain things. And I've watched and said, 192 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: as long as we're talking about it, Larry and everybody else, 193 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't understand why manufacturers don't make bulletins available to 194 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: vehicle owners. They know who bought the car, the VENs 195 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: registered in your name. You call up under extended warrantine, 196 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: you've got to call talk to the manufacturer for whatever reason. 197 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: You know that they know you in that twenty twenty 198 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: five whatever vehicle it is ending in serial number one two, three, four, 199 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: five six. Why don't they send notices you know? Or 200 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: why don't they give you the ability to log in 201 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: as you wish, you know, a client portal, a customer portal. Maybe, 202 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: Hey Tom, here's your bulletins. Hey Ron, here's your bulletins 203 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: that go with your new vehicle. At least you know 204 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: and tell you the truth. It would probably be good 205 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: for business at the dealership. Gee, you know, you know 206 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: my car kind of does that I never really knew 207 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: it was a bulletin. G Can I get this fixed? 208 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what do I know. I'm just a mechanic. 209 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 210 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: Run an ding of the car doctor. That's I am, 211 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: and I'll be back right after this. 212 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: Good time time. 213 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: Ride it on the wall so you don't forget to 214 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 3: call for car advice. 215 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: Done right? 216 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 217 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: Now back to Rod. Hey, let's get over to Jeff 218 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, eighteen Chevy cruise. It's been sitting around Jeff. 219 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car Doctor. You're on at eight five 220 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. How can 221 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: I help? 222 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. It's a pleasure talking to you. 223 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. 224 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: So I'm like sixty five years old and ever when 225 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: you ever owned five cars? I'm very mechanically ill litter. 226 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: I used to change moil, but thirty years ago when 227 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: I could find the ole field, quit changing it all right. 228 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: But anyhow, I have this cruise that was uh it 229 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: was my girlfriend and she passed away Cleveland clinic and 230 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: it's been sitting for like two and a half years, 231 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: and through legal stuff, I finally got the car back 232 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: to me, right, But it hasn't been turned over at all, 233 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: and I know there's gonna be things I need to 234 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: do before I even try to turn it over. And 235 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: that's why I'm calling you. I mean, I know any 236 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 2: battery breaks, roaders, tires, and I don't know about brake lines, 237 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: fuel lines and anything like that or even you know, 238 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: before I even turn the key over, do I need to, 239 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: you know, put some kind of lubricant down in the head. 240 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: You know. That's yeah, where I'm at. That's why I'm 241 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: calling you. 242 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: How many how many miles are on it? Approximately? Jeff? 243 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: Do you know it's fifty some thousand? 244 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so fifty some thousand? You know how you know 245 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: how long ago prior to its sitting was the oil change? 246 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: Was she good about oil changes? 247 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: Do you know? Yes? 248 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to tell you. You know, I would 249 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: disable fuel pump or I would disable it so that 250 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't start and crank it, you know, either use 251 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: the starter. I would probably just wing it and spin 252 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: it over with the starter. You want to go through 253 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: the you want to go through the trouble of pulling 254 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: the coils out, pulling the coil off and pulling the 255 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: plugs and putting a drop, a couple of drops of 256 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: oil in. I don't think it's going to matter. I 257 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: think I think that if you tap the key and 258 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: get the pistons to move and just slowly tap tap, tap, 259 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, maybe after fifteen twenty seconds of that, you know, 260 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: I would just spin it for twenty seconds, see if 261 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: the oil light or if there's a gauge, either the 262 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: oil light goes out or the gauge reads, and then 263 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: at that point I would say you're okay to start, 264 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: all right? 265 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: You know. 266 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: My biggest fear in something like this is everything has 267 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: sat in one position, and what I'm thinking about is 268 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: valve springs and you know, timing chain motors of which 269 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: this is. But I'd be willing to say, you know, 270 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: it's obvious to the advantages. As fast as you can 271 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: get oil pressure up and going, I would say, get 272 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: it warm, bring it up. Make sure there's coolant in it, obviously, 273 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, So let's back up. We want to check 274 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: coolant level, we want to check engine oil, we want 275 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: to check well, there's no transfluid check on this, so 276 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: let's check the engine and let's check coolant. As long 277 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: as it's got that and the engine oil looks relatively clean. 278 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: I say, we you know, tap to get it going, 279 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: Tap to get it going, tap to get it going. 280 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Crank it for twenty to thirty seconds. The light should 281 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: go out, the gage should come up, and then you know, 282 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: if you want, let's find the fuel pump FUS, we 283 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: can pull that or the relay, put it back in. 284 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: Let it start. Now, the fuel that's in here is old. 285 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: How much fuels in the tank? I do not know 286 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: because the battery is dead right right, Yeah, you know 287 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: you're going to have a problem with you know, the 288 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: fuel that's in that tank because it's quite old. If 289 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: it's a quarter tank, I'm going to tell you to 290 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: dump twenty gallons in, which will probably just about fill 291 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: it might overfill it actually, and you know, let's blend 292 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: it down. If you have a mechanic that has a 293 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: some sort of a fuel injection cleaning kit, because you're 294 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna end up having to do this anyway. You know, 295 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: we could run it depending upon what brand of fuel 296 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: system cleaner he uses. But sometimes some of the kits 297 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: have these aluminum cylinders that you can pour gasoline in, 298 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: so you put pint of gasoline in, mix it in 299 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: with some cleaner and that's the cleaning solution, just to 300 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: get it to run on fuel without using the fuel 301 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: that's in the tank. If we're concerned, you know, you 302 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: probably want to pull the fuel cap off and smell it. 303 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Does it smell like varnish? Does it smell like gas? 304 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: Was it a real two and a half years? Was 305 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: it shorter? Was it longer? Or is that an actual number? 306 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: Now? It was? Well, it was she passed away in 307 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: June of twenty twenty two. 308 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, it's a real number, twenty two June 309 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: twenty four. Yeah, it's two and a half years. Yeah, 310 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry by the way, you know, uh, and I 311 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: understand why you want to fix it. 312 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: Right, you know, I love it, you know, I repurchase 313 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: it through the legal stuff, you know what I mean. 314 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, sometimes that's sometimes that's how we we we 315 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: we show our respect and our admiration for those that 316 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: have gone on. You know, we uh, we get to 317 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: ride around with them for a little bit, right, And 318 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: I get that one hundred percent, But that's what I 319 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: would be doing. And then once you get it to run, 320 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, at this point, because we we don't know 321 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: unless we have real good service records. If it's wet, 322 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: change it, you know, any of the fluids, you know, 323 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: pads and rotors, Yeah, calibers, I'm not so concerned about. 324 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: I bet you the calibers will be fine. You do 325 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: pads and rotors, clean and lube everything, do a break, 326 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: fluid flush. I bet you the brakes will work fine, 327 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, and then just just do the rest of 328 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: the stuff that you would normally do. Trans cool what 329 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna do and so on. 330 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: So all right, okay, can I ask one more quick question. 331 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Yeah, go ahead real quick. I 332 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: may cut you short and we'll come back after the break. 333 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: But let's see how fast we can get it in. 334 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: Go ahead, okay with twenty fourteen Chevy Cruise. When I 335 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: come to the stop at bucks and bunks like the 336 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: old days when people had their oh yeah, the shops, 337 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: you know where they make them go up and down. 338 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: That's sometimes what I feel like my car's doing, right? 339 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 5: Is it? 340 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: Is it after a highway ride, Jeff? You know, like 341 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: if you're coming off the highway sixty five miles an hour, 342 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: boombeah pretty much? Yep, it doesn't do it around town 343 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: going slow? 344 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: Yes, it does, do it around town. 345 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Now that's your car, not hers, right, all right, 346 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: and it's obviously it's when you're stepping on the break right, Okay, 347 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: tell you what sit tight, let me let me pull 348 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: over and take this puis. When we come back, we'll 349 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: answer Jeff's question and we'll get on to the rest 350 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: of our phone calls until then. I'm running Indy in 351 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: the car doctor eighty five five five six year own 352 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. That is the car Doctor's twenty 353 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: four to seven number. I haven't said that yet today, 354 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: so know that you can call that number anytime, day 355 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: or night. I'll be back right after this. 356 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 5: Don't go away, and let's get back to the phones. 357 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: Let's go Jeff. You're still there, sir, Jeff Pennsylvania. So 358 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about when you're coming to a stop with 359 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: your fourteen sonic, right, that's what it was. Yeah, you 360 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: get a you get a shake? Is it in the 361 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: steering wheel of the seat of your pants, Jeff or 362 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: both of the whole car just shakes and bucks. 363 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 2: The whole car just sakes. I would think somebody think 364 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: something's funny going on. If I had like a van. 365 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: Right, So why can't it be that we've got warped 366 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: break rotors. 367 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: I've had them taken care of before and that wasn't 368 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: the problem. 369 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so did the problem. 370 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: It feels like it's something engine wise to me? 371 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: Really, Okay, So if you put the car in if 372 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: you put the car in neutral and coast to a stop, 373 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: does it still do it? 374 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I never tried that. 375 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: That's next, right, because just just because you had it 376 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: fixed doesn't mean they fixed it right, or it doesn't 377 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: mean it's it's not part of the problem. But you know, 378 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: if it's in neutral and you're coasting to a stop 379 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: and it doesn't do it, then it's not break it's powertrain, 380 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: engine related, something along those lines. No fault code, right, 381 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: No dashboard lights or on anything like that. No, how 382 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: many miles on the car. 383 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety eight thousand, okay, you. 384 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: Know, obviously i'd want to look at front end. I 385 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: want to go through suspension. They worked on front brakes, Jeff. 386 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, the back and I'll get all the brakes. 387 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: Done before all right, and then if it goes away 388 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: in neutral or you know, if if if it doesn't 389 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: do it, or if it doesn't when it's in neutral 390 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: because it's from the break, What if we gently apply 391 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: the parking break, will it do it from a ten 392 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: mile roll? I don't know that, Okay, you know I'm 393 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: wondering will the parking breaks slow it down and make 394 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: a difference? All right, just keep it. Just keep in mind, 395 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: the faster you go applying the parking break, you're gonna 396 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: make the car spin around, you know, high speed versus 397 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: you know what, you know what that's like driving on 398 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: snowy roads. Right, So, but you know, if it is engine, 399 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: then we're going to start to plug in a scan 400 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: tool and start to look at fuel trims and things 401 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: like that. I want to start to see that, but 402 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: I want to know that it's engine. That would be 403 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: an odd That would be an odd complaint as an 404 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: engine fault. You know, I'd be more willing to bet 405 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: it's it's it's related to you know, somebody could put 406 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: breake rotors on the car if it's got a bent 407 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: hub or flange or a problem and a wheel bearing 408 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: or a the way the rotor sits, it's still going 409 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: to have the same pulse. So hopefully and not a 410 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: lot of guys do this anymore. But somebody strapped the 411 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: dial indicator to the vehicle and indicated the front hubs 412 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: to make sure they're around. And you know that'll tell 413 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: us whether or not. But put it in neutral, real 414 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: simple tests. Put it in neutral. Comer, step me do 415 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: that and then we can talk more. 416 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: Okay, if you come to a stop, it'll still bucking 417 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: brow but you're a complete stop. 418 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: Okay, so the engine's running rough? 419 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: Then doesn't really sound like it's running rough? 420 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: Well, what shakes in the car? 421 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: Jeff, the whole car? 422 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: So is this only while you're driving? Or is this 423 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: only while you're sitting still? 424 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: Only when you come to a stop. And then after 425 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: you come to a stop, that'll still shake. 426 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: Oh okay, put it in neutral. Does the shake go away? 427 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: Does the shake go away the neutral? If the shake 428 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: goes away in neutral, then it's going to be engine 429 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: mounts or something metal on metal is making contact. Okay, 430 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: all right, you got some homework to do, all right, 431 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: all right, you let me know. 432 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: I know, so all right, thank you very much. 433 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. You take good care. Yeah, it's 434 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: listen you so Hi, I work through that. It's about 435 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: It's about the communication process because it was when he 436 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: was moving, then it was when he was stopped. Very 437 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: important to be different and disseminate that. Let's go over 438 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: and talk to Ben in Virginia. Ben, how can I 439 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: help Ronny? And at your service? Er, yes, sir, what's 440 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: going on? 441 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: Okay? My two thousand and two was topped in it this afternoon, 442 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: and when the key is off, the brake pedal was hard. 443 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: As soon as I turned the key on, the brake 444 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: pedal went to the floor. So of course I've pumped 445 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: the brakes a couple of times and I heard a 446 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: wishing sound and goes all the way to the floor 447 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: when the key is on. 448 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: What what series Silverado? Has this been? Fifteen fifte Okay? 449 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: Does this have a vacuum break, booster or hydro boost? 450 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: It's I'm gonna I don't really know the difference. Ron it, Well, 451 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: it's a work truck model. 452 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, gas WT model gas gas truck or diesel gas. Okay, 453 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: So if you pop the hood, you should have a round. 454 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: If you look where the master cylinder is, do you 455 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: know where the master has been? It would be right 456 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: right now, okay, right, you're looking at that big that 457 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: big can. So you should have a a diaphragm style looking. 458 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: If it's a vacuum booster, it'll have a vacuum boost. 459 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: If not, there's a is there a black hydraulic pump 460 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: assembly underneath the master cylinder with hydraulic hoses going in 461 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: and out of it. 462 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: There is an assembly under the fluid reservoir and that 463 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: goes into what looks like a big bowl. You know, 464 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: I'm saying it's around. I don't know. I wouldn't really 465 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: call this a diaphragm. It looks like a it's a 466 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: solid steel. It looks like a bowl. 467 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: It's about It's got a fourteen inch assembly underneath it. 468 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: It's got hydraulic lines coming from the power steering going 469 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: into it. 470 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: There's a line going to it on this one here 471 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 2: where the brake lines go into the little the junction 472 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: whatever that is under the brake fluid reservoir, and then 473 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: this goes right into the center of this. I guess 474 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: a like a pot you have. 475 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: You have hydro boost beIN so that system works off 476 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: the power steering. You can't you can't judge the brake 477 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: pedal with that off. You have to judge it with 478 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: the engine on if you start it up, how does 479 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: the brake pedal feel? 480 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: Once I started up, it goes to the floor. 481 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: Okay, So your brake pedal is on the floor, So 482 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: that means your red brake light is on on the 483 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: dashboard too, right, I did not notice that. 484 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's find out right now. 485 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: I'd be curious because if the red brake lights on, 486 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: it sounds like it blew a brake line. That would 487 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: be my that would be from my seat here. 488 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: Okay, let's see there are no warning lights on on 489 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: the dashboard. 490 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Okay, but you step on the brake and the brake 491 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: pedal goes to the floor. 492 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, and I'm gonna do it. If you heard 493 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: that noise, no, it. 494 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: Almost it almost sounds like the master failed or this 495 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: vehicle has suffered some sort of a hydraulic failure. 496 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 2: Okay. 497 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: Is it hard to push the pedal? 498 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: Oh no, it goes down real easy. 499 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: Okay, but it goes to have any breaks. 500 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: The only time to break engages is when it's right 501 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: at the bottom. 502 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: Okay. So you've either lost one half of the system 503 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: or the other, or there is a leak, any puddles 504 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 1: under the vehicle. 505 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: I did not go to that are. It does look 506 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 2: like under the under the hood there there might be 507 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: some spatter. 508 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: Okay, so sounds like a line rusted through somewhere and 509 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: you're losing hydraulic break fluids. So I would tell you 510 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: not to drive the vehicle obviously no breaks. Yeah, it 511 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: sounds like you already knew that though. Yeah, so it 512 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: sounds like it sounds like you're headed for some type 513 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: of hydraulic repair. I would be cautious to be twenty 514 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: three years old. Steal lines Virginia, right, you know, salt 515 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: corrosion probably very much so worth fixing. Just got to 516 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: look at all the lines, change everything. Tell your mechanic 517 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a mechanic to this, or you're gonna 518 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: do this on your own. 519 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I'll be doing whatever gets done, all. 520 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: Right, if you're gonna if you need steel brake line 521 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: for this, if you get down to your parts house. 522 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: I know, going back, I haven't looked in a while, 523 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: but going back, oh, three four years ago, AC Delco 524 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: and GM they came out with break line kits for 525 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: these vehicles where you could go in and purchase relatively 526 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: cheap too. I remember this as being like two two 527 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars kits, and they were coded lines, 528 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: bent and you know, shaped to match the vehicle, and 529 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: you could replace all the lines with factory lines. You'd 530 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: have to drop the gas tank to do it, but 531 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: you want to do a nice job, you know, if 532 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: it's a work vehicle, you plan on keeping nothing wrong 533 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: with that. You may also find that if you can't 534 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: find the leak up front, but it's still losing fluid, 535 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: or it still has no brake pedal, that the line 536 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: behind the gas tank down the driver's side of the 537 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: frame rail blew and you don't see it because the 538 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: gas tank's hiding it until it decides to drain all 539 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: the way out. Bottom line, it's got to have it. 540 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: It's gotta have a pedal. It's either got a defective 541 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: master cylinder for some reason, or it's got a loss 542 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: of hydraulics because it's leaking through a bad line. There's 543 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: not much else it can do. 544 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: Ok all right, I got it, Okay, all right, kiddle 545 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: doesn't look low. But yeah, I mean, I'm sure I 546 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: don't drive it that much, but it probably just hasn't 547 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 2: shown up yet. 548 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, just be fortunate it happened in the yard, right, 549 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: You weren't driving down the road at sixty miles an hour. 550 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking the exact same thing. 551 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: Yes, great, mindstinkle like my friend, You'll be well, Ben, 552 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: have a good rest of the day. I'm running any 553 00:28:46,640 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: in the car doctor, Rebecca. Right after this, let's uh, 554 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: let's go to Brian, North Carolina. Oh wait, Chevy Suburban. Brian. 555 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. What's going on? 556 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: Thank you? Ron? 557 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 6: Hey, I've got a two thousand and eight Chevy Suburban. 558 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 6: I love my car just as much as the films 559 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 6: like you love yours. The So I'll start the car 560 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 6: up and uh, everything will be fine. Then I will 561 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 6: put it in gear and I'll get off, and very 562 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 6: often I'll get this ding ding ding warning time and 563 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 6: not the service engine light. But you know where the 564 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 6: odometer comes in and where the you know, you can 565 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 6: check you mileage and your trip doometer blah blah blah. 566 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. The driver information center, go ahead. 567 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, the driver information center, go ahead, Yeah. 568 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 569 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 6: I call it the I don't want to call it. 570 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: That's why, that's why. 571 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 6: That's but anyway, you have the driver that he I 572 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 6: see the driver information center and uh, so it pops 573 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 6: up passenger door ajar open and none of none of 574 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 6: them are open. And and as such as such, I 575 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 6: cannot run the dome lights because the dome lights assume 576 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 6: that the doors open, so it wants to run even 577 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 6: though the lights aren't on. It runs down the battery 578 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 6: right right, so and I can't find anything. Go ahead. 579 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: There was a there was a bulletin way back when 580 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be this, but just 581 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: to show you where I would start, there's a bulletin 582 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 1: from June of two thousand and nine where they came 583 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: out with a different door latch assembly, and it seemed 584 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: like a lot of the problem was the right rear latch, 585 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: the right rear door handle assembly itself. You can take 586 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: a look at GM if you can get your hands 587 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: on a GM p T pit or bulletin pit. Forty 588 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: six six A is an Apple dated June or July 589 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: of two thousand and nine, if I remember right, And 590 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: they talked about new door latch assemblies and handles and such. 591 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: There was a problem with the way they made the 592 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: original one, and moisture got in there and ruined the 593 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: ruin the switch. I would also if you have access. 594 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: What sort of scan tool do you have? Do you 595 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: have anything? 596 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, inexpensivebd on NAPO. 597 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to you need to have something that 598 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: would get in, that would get into the body module 599 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: and you know, look to see you'll be able to 600 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: see door switches and see who's reporting. What If you're 601 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: sitting in the vehicle with four, you know, four switches 602 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: and you know all four of them report closed, then 603 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna think we got a confused body module. But 604 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet one of them is going to 605 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: show open the fact that this says passenger side. It's 606 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, one of the passenger side doors. 607 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: Just if you want to take a gamble because you 608 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: don't have access to a scan tool. If you were 609 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: to take the uh passenger side door panel off and 610 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, find the wiring that leads up to the 611 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: switch in the handle and the latch assembly and either 612 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: either unplug it. Does the light do you have operation 613 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: of the dollmites? I think it's gonna be that you're 614 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: gonna have to unplug it. Find the two wires in 615 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: a wiring diagram the controller tell it about the switch, 616 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: and you know, jumper them to to replicate switch closure, 617 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: or you're gonna have to go over to that door 618 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe snap it a couple of times 619 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: and smack it around, be a little snotty to it 620 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: and does that Does that change something? 621 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: You know? 622 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: Or or or try closing the latch with a screwdriver 623 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: and cycling it real hard. Does that do anything? But 624 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd pay attention to that right rear 625 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: door that seemed to be where a lot of the 626 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: problems were. And the fact that this says passenger side. 627 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: You know, you want to play the odds. If not, 628 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: you got to go the scan tool routine and diagnose it. 629 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: You know, the more the more formal way. 630 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 6: So all right, yes, hey listen, uh that I gives 631 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 6: you a place to start. I truly appreciate you taking 632 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 6: my call. 633 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. You need more, send me an 634 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: email Ron at cardoctorshow dot com. If you need a 635 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: wiring diagram, I'm glad to send you one. Just shoot 636 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: me a VN so I have a ven to work from, 637 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: or license plate in the state or registration for the vehicle. 638 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: You'd be wa well, Brian, thanks so much. I'm Ron 639 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: any and the car doctor. We're coming back right after this. 640 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: I talked to Peggy this week. Peggy's a regular customer 641 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: at the shop, and she was in picking up her 642 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: Volkswagen one day and we were talking about, you know, 643 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: bottom line and I say this, you know, in all humility. 644 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: She said, you know, I really appreciate the way you 645 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: guys look at the car and take care of it. 646 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 1: And you know, I feel confident when I leave here. 647 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: And she says, I wasn't getting that when I was 648 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: going to the other shop, which obviously something was missing. 649 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: That's why she ended up on our doorstep a couple 650 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: of years back. But she was sort of surprised to see, 651 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: you know. Somehow we got in the conversation about you know, 652 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: how busy are you and this and that. I was 653 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: trying to explain to her, you know, we're not taking 654 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: every car. 655 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: We're not. 656 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we're in that position. You know, we've been doing 657 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: this a while and we've got a good repute and 658 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, we're taking new customers on a case by 659 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: case basis. And she said, what are the reasons why 660 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: you're not taking customers? And I said, you know, I said, 661 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: because there's only so far I can educate a person, 662 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's like that. You know, it sounds strange 663 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: from the guy who's on radio every week trying to 664 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: educate you guys about cars, but the fact that if 665 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: you're sitting there listening, you're willing to learn. And there's 666 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: nothing worse than an audience that doesn't want to learn 667 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: about the product that you're talking about. And I explained 668 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: to her how so many people are out there still 669 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: driving around on eight nine year old batteries and then 670 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: they have the crisis at the last minute, or you know. 671 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: And as I'm explaining all this to her, the woman 672 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: who thought our oil change was too much money and 673 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: overkill stopped back because the last repair shops she had 674 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: just been too for an oil change. She stuck her 675 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: head in the door and said, hey, my tire pressure 676 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: lights on. Can you add some air to my tires? 677 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Peggy and I looked at each other and laughed. 678 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: So sometimes it's just so obvious. The answer is right 679 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: in front of your face. I'm running ady in the car, doctor, 680 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: and I'm reminding each and every one of you till 681 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 682 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: See you