1 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: Earnestness Bananza Part two starts now starts now. Wow, So 2 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: we've since revealed that we are um, we've revealed that 3 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: we're taking a break in at one um but yeah, yeah, um, 4 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: I just want everyone to know we're doing that time thing. 5 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: And we are currently recording the part two intro. After 6 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: fully recording for two and a half hours, it is 7 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: now nine pm and we are still talking um but 8 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: essentially per usual with I mean per usual what is usual? Uh? 9 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: These aren't Bananza's We actually uh get too into it. 10 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: We like answering all these questions and so we have 11 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: a part too, And so I don't know how sure 12 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: we want to make this intro. We can make it 13 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: extremely short and literally just say like, so here's part 14 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: two right now. Yeah, or we should like or we 15 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: could like riff right now like that. I mean, you 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: guys have no idea, but like, we just recorded the 17 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: part where we like sentimentally say goodbye to everyone for 18 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: the summer. So it feels very strange to now be like, okay, guys, 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: what you're about to hear is part two. Yeah, it's 20 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: actually both feeling emotional. It's crazy to do this. Um, 21 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: so I guess we'll just say two starts now, Part 22 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: two starts now, and um, you know, thanks again so 23 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: much and we love all of you. Okay, bye bye. 24 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: This is from Sophia in fact Sophie. First of all, 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: Happy almost birthday to Sam. Thank you, queen. I feel 26 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: very special now that I know I share the same 27 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: birthday with one of my favorite comedians to celebrate being 28 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: a chaotic cancer queen on June thirty alongside with you. 29 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: For the record, I'm also a cancer. My straight shooter 30 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: question is Boxers The Dog or Briefs the Legal Document? 31 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: I will say, you know, I think your classic Boxers 32 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: the Dog and I'm classic Briefs the Legal Document absolutely, 33 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: And so if he's real question is oh, wow, are 34 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: you nervous about performing live for the first time since 35 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: you started working together. You have such amazing chemistry on 36 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: the pod, but I wonder if you will enjoy more 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: physically synchronized performance even better or will it feel strange? Wow, 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: physically synchronized? I think this is funny. Um, and then 39 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: there's a PS that is very very kind. But I 40 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: will be embarrassed if I read such kind words out loud. 41 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: But I but know that I see you and I 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: hear you, and I am simply obsessed. I think this 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: is an interesting question because by the time this is out, 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: we will have done our live show together. But I think, 45 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: I guess, like what this question makes me feel is like, 46 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: how how are you feeling about the upcoming live show? Yes? Yeah, um, 47 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll say this. It is insane to have 48 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: to begin a new like a new full time job 49 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: the week leading up to something this big. Like I 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: I do think luckily we met last you know, we've 51 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: been talking about this for a while. We met last 52 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: weekend and we came up with the structure of the 53 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: show and things like that. But there are many more 54 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: things that need to be done, and they will be done. 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: But like, it is very unlucky that this week I 56 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: don't have the amount of time it takes to truly 57 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: with a kind of clean slate, figure out what this 58 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: is gonna look like. We have kind of created more 59 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: work for ourselves, I think than many other people would. 60 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: But I don't regret that. I think that's a good thing. 61 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: It's just it means that it is. It's just there's 62 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to be done, and I feel 63 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: a little behind, but not behind enough. To feel stressed. Yeah, 64 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: to be fair, I'm scared as well. I'm also dealing 65 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: with like much more work than I thought I would 66 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: have at this moment, and so I'm like, oh no, oh, no, 67 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: oh no, And every day I'm trying, I'm half I'm 68 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: panicking the back of my head. But I also know 69 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: that we've done this enough that I'm excited because like, 70 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: once we're up on that stage with those mics in 71 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: our hands and those lights on our faces, We're just 72 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: gonna pop off. And I think it's going to be 73 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: extremely fun. And I also think, like I've been enjoying 74 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: I've only performed like a few times since Stand Up 75 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: Is Back, and I've been enjoying like sort of being 76 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: out of the groove, like not like having a different 77 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: cadence than I used to slightly and like not being 78 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: so like scripted. And I think for us, I think 79 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: it will be fun too, like experience like this chemistry 80 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: and cadence that we've been like honing vaguely on this podcast, 81 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: like in a live setting. And I think it's gonna 82 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: be interesting. I think it'll be I to be honest, 83 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be so fun. And I think 84 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: like as much as live performances its own based. We 85 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: have been talking with no feedback whatsoever now for a 86 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: year and a half, and like it will undoubtedly be 87 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: easy to have people that laugh at as we say, 88 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: or not even laugh or just like gasp yeah, sort 89 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: of gaffall and maybe shout, but uh no, it'll be 90 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: We're you can't bomb any more than you bomb to 91 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: performing for no one. So honey, let there be silence. 92 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: I live for it all, right, Next question, I let's 93 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: do UM. This is you. This is from Angelica and 94 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: Angelica we promise we have read every single word of 95 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: this email, but just for a time we are going 96 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: to do UM. Just the question. Okay, So I'm oh, yes, 97 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: and this was one of yours. Um, yeah, I like 98 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: this one. Uh. Just wondering what your experienced with day 99 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: jobs are and how bad they made you feel, Curious 100 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: as to how other people have pursued creativity, and wondering 101 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: if leaving a day job feels like a leap into 102 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: faith as it were, as it were every time, or 103 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 1: if doing it gradually makes things easier. This may feel 104 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: like I'm so listening advice, but I the only want 105 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: to hear about you oh, I got perfect, and in fact, 106 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: now I'm remembering, I also start this one, so offense, 107 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: no offense to it. I just forgot um um, do 108 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: you want to go first? Yeah, I can. My experience 109 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: with the jobs is very straightforward, so I can. Basically, 110 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: I was lucky, I think when I started comedy, I 111 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: had essentially I mean, it was almost like out of 112 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: a dream. How lucky I was in my financial situation 113 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: because basically I was in a fully funded graduate program 114 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: that gave me a monthly stipend that was enough for 115 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: me to live. I did not get money from anywhere 116 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: else or from family or anything, and so I truly 117 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: I could make my own schedule except for classes, which 118 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: when you're a grad student or not that many, it's 119 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: not like when you're an undergrad. So I basically, you know, 120 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: I had some paper straight and I had some projects 121 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: to do, but I could truly do them whenever I wanted, 122 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: and I basically was able to have every night free, 123 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: stay out as late as I wanted. I mean, because 124 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't even if I had morning class maybe will 125 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: be like once a week or something. And it just 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: Academia fully funded my first two full years of my 127 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: comedy career. UM. And in fact, because I was in Boston, 128 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: it was and I think Boston was like such a 129 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: perfect place to start stand up because it was the 130 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: perfect size scene where I feel like there were so 131 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: many cool people that had come from there, like Josh Gondleman, 132 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: like you know, Julia Rossie, like people I really respect. UM. 133 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: But also it was small enough that I felt like 134 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: I was able to make friends really easily, and it 135 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: was just it was a very nice community. And then 136 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: when I moved to New York again, I was lucky 137 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: enough that I got the job, um, a full time 138 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: job again in academia that I got because of grad school. 139 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: And then I had that job for three full years 140 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: and it was a full time job with benefits. It 141 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: was not like I mean, I hope no one's listening. 142 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: I was about to say, it was not super high paying, 143 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: but it was. It was very like obviously like it's 144 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: academia like that. It's not like it's not like I'm 145 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: working in Wall Street. But it was like absolutely enough, 146 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: absolutely enough for me to like live in a studio 147 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: and like have a very have a comfortable, normal Brooklyn existence. Um. 148 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: And what was great about that job was that even 149 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: though it was a full time job and I did 150 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: have to be there every day, I a enjoyed doing 151 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: it and like my coworkers and be like could truly 152 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: clock out every day at like five thirty pm, so 153 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: it was very easy to do stand up at night. 154 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: Then I quit that job in December, or I mean 155 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: some sources say the contract in fact ran out. And 156 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: then I love fact checking yourself, and then um, and 157 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: then it was I was collecting. I planned for two months. 158 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: Then I got a short TV writing job. Then I 159 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: was unemployed for another month, and then I got this 160 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: cockler job. So that's that's my that's my day job journey. 161 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: So I've always essentially had a full time day job, 162 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: which I will say, on the one hand, was was 163 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: just nice to have like a monthly income. On the 164 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: other hand, like it absolutely delayed certain things like it 165 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: that I in fact, I remember one time I didn't 166 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: get something because the person like flagged for that company 167 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: that I had a day job, so I couldn't so 168 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: like they didn't like offer me something, even though if 169 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: they had, I I think I could have you figured 170 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: out in a sick day or something. You know, It's 171 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: like one day thing, um. And then also just like yeah, 172 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: I I can't. I couldn't do things during the day, 173 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Like I missed out on a lot of opportunities because 174 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah. Um, yeah, We've had different journeys. I 175 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: because mine, I prioritized like flexibility more than stability, um. 176 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: And so like when I first moved here, I've just 177 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: had like a million stupid jobs, like and I've had 178 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: various varying levels of luck. Like when I first moved here, 179 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: I literally like worked at a j crew like for 180 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: six months and then like blessing, like some older guy 181 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: that like went to my college and I just emailed 182 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: to be like, Hi, I'm in New York, like we 183 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: had never met before, and he was like, actually, I 184 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: have this job and I'm leaving, like do you want it? 185 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: And it was like this job that took place from 186 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: uh four am to eight am, and I would just 187 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: like right, it was for Coca Cola, and I would 188 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: like Google like was justally a human Google Alert and 189 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: would like write like a stupid like bibliography for them 190 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: every morning for like their PR team about how soda 191 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: was killing everyone and uh, that paid really well. And 192 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: that was my best era. And that was like some 193 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: formative times because I could like truly be out all 194 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: night do stuff during the day, like I would just 195 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: sleep sort of twice uh twice a day um. And 196 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: so that and then like from there, like when I 197 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: lost that job that I really panicked because that like 198 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: really gave me a lot of freedom that you do 199 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: unfortunately need to do this stuff. And so then I 200 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: became a dog walker, which uh was flexible but didn't 201 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: pay well. And then I got a job doing like 202 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: social media for this stupid hotel chain, which actually was tight, 203 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: and that was I did not know about all your 204 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: different eras. I've had a lot of eras. The social 205 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: media job was tight because that paid well and they 206 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: were flexible and you could literally do it from your phone, 207 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: so I'd be like running into something and like posting, uh. 208 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: And then I was I lost that job, and I 209 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: thought I had gotten this one thing, like and this 210 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: was like and I and I got the thing and 211 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: I was losing the job at the same time, and 212 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: I was like, don't you see it's a sign like 213 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: you're about to pop off and make it. And then 214 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, that was so untrue. And that 215 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: started like my true dark era. Of like being on 216 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: the cusp of so many comedy jobs but not getting them, 217 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: and also feeling like I couldn't get a real job 218 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: because it would get in the way. And so then 219 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: I I started working at the fourteen Street Why doing 220 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: like this kids after school program, which didn't pay well 221 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: but was actually nice and a lot of comedians worked there, 222 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: so it was kind of a fun time and they 223 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: would let you take off whenever you want. And then 224 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: I was a mover and that's right, that sucked, but 225 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: it was also you truly work like four days at 226 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: the end of the month and make rent, but like 227 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: at what cost. Well you also not to say that 228 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: you don't look good now, because you always look good, 229 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: but during that era, you truly were out of the 230 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: out of a men at play video, I got very strong. Um. 231 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot of stairs and lifting, and 232 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: it was intense. I mean that was actually the name 233 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: of the company, Intense Movers. And I can recommend them 234 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: because they've helped me move my last time. Wait, I 235 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: want to say one more thing about flexibility. Well, I 236 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: want to say two things. One insane thing that happened 237 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: to me in terms of day jobs is when I 238 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: got when I wrote on um our friend Matt and 239 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Dave's show. That was like a it was like maybe 240 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: two three months in l A and my day job 241 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: literally let me take a leave of absence in order 242 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: to do that job and then come back. So it 243 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: is that was incredibly um. But then the other thing 244 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to say was you were talking about flexibility, 245 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: and and I think it's a crazy thing to say, 246 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: Like I actually had like professionally a pretty good pandemic. 247 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: But in fact, the reason I did is because for 248 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: the first time in my life, I had flexibility. Because 249 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: even though I still for some of it did have 250 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: that day job, I now was actually able to make 251 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: my own. It was essentially I could see that job 252 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: as like one of many freelance contracts that I had 253 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: to fulfill, if that makes sense. So like, and I 254 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: just was shocked at how much I got done, all 255 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: this stuff that I truly like had been dragging my 256 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: feet on for years. Like I finished the script that 257 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: I had been writing for three years, like in the 258 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: first few months, and then like wrote another one. And 259 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: there was at one point where I was like writing 260 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: on like you know, I had two other writing gigs 261 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: on top of my full time job, and it still 262 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: wasn't that chaotic because I just like I didn't have 263 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: to go into an office every day, and I think 264 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: that was one of the reasons where I was like, oh, 265 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: this is why all these people were lapping me all 266 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: these years, Like I literally couldn't do this, like I 267 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: it truly sucks up all your time. So yeah, yeah, um, 268 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: and I do want to say that also, like people 269 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: fantasize about like that moment. I I fantasized about the 270 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: moment being like I don't have a day job anymore, 271 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: and like I think, while that is good, like you, 272 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: that is the ultimate goal, you don't need to like 273 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: rush it like I am, you know, sorry to I'm 274 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: like a little grateful for the times that I had 275 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: all these weird day jobs because I feel like I've 276 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: met a lot of different people from different realms and 277 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: like it's been interesting and like, I don't know, you 278 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: get like it just it also takes you up your 279 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: head a little bit. You're like adapt constantly, and like 280 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: when you're just doing entertainment, you're like a psychopath because 281 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: you're focused on this one thing that you have actually 282 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: very little control over and well not just that. But 283 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: then you're like not to say that you're born, you're 284 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: fully boring in a way that I mean, it's it 285 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: is like humiliating how bad you are. I mean, and 286 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to drag l A comedians, but like often 287 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: you go to l A and you watch stand up 288 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: and it is like it's literally people using industry terms 289 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: and being like, so, so we had to do a 290 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: rewrite for this premise and then this happened. It's like, 291 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: who the funk wants to hear that? Like it is 292 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: so I remember I went to last time I was 293 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: in l A. I saw like a successful comedian that's 294 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: maybe let's say, like ten years older than us. Um 295 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: had an entire joke about how he did like rewrites 296 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: on a famous movie. I won't say what, but it 297 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: was like not a common movie. It was like and 298 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: that was the premise, and then it was just like 299 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: about how he worked with this famous actor and that 300 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: famous actor was weird m h. And so I don't know, 301 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: and also frankly like and I don't. I was about 302 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, we both work to pay 303 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: our rents and not everyone we know does that, and 304 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: I don't in any way like I grew up pretty privileged, 305 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: and I do not want to claim that like, oh 306 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: I no one knows the struggle I've been through or 307 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: anything like that. However, like the fact that you know, 308 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: no matter I at least have to be financially independent 309 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: and pay my own bill. It's like, does add some 310 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: perspective compared to people we know that don't have to 311 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: do that, Like it's just it's simply you have, like 312 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: you don't fully understand like most of life if you 313 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: don't have to, if you're not thinking about money, like 314 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: that's like what most people are thinking about all the time. 315 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: It's true. Yeah, I so so keep doing that day job. 316 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: It's not that bad. I mean, it's not that bad. 317 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: And also I'm sorry to be one of those people 318 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: who's like, you know, I don't know Tony Morrison didn't 319 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: write her first book and tells you was afford. It's like, 320 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm not near the resident Tony Morrison. But I will 321 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: say that many famous writers had day jobs and like 322 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: they made it work. Yeah, And I remember learning about 323 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: like people like when I was younger, like people that 324 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: I looked up to that would like, you know, they 325 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: had a writing job. But then they were like panicking, 326 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this kind of you got 327 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: to settle into the panic and the scrappiness because it's 328 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: kind of always going to be around. So I'll say this. 329 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: The next one is also about the live show, so 330 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: I think we should Okay, okay, this is from UM. 331 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: They signed it Dawson UM. What should I do if 332 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't get someone's comedy and really want to struggle 333 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: with the in your face intensity or I d K 334 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: how to describe any of this dead pan anti comedy comedians, 335 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: comedian of some Brooklyn Ault comics. How do I get 336 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: past these blocks to appreciate some of the best talent? 337 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: What do you do if you just want to laugh 338 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: at comedy but you're not I and I don't know 339 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: how you feel about this. I'm sort of like comedy 340 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: is like any other like art you're consuming, Like if 341 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: you aren't enjoying it, Like, yes, context can help and 342 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: like sort of understanding like why they're acting this way 343 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: and like what they are commenting on is helpful, But 344 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: like it's also like if it's not working for you, 345 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: you don't have to like force yourself to like it. 346 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: You can just kind of move on. And find the 347 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: next thing that you do. Like I I think, well, 348 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a difference between like challenging art and 349 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: just like um, bad art, right like and and I'm 350 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: not saying I'm the arbiter of what is challenging and 351 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: what is bad, but like if you're saying what you 352 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: don't like is like anti comedy from a comedians comedian, 353 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: oftentimes that person is just like um, essentially only performing 354 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: for their friends, and like if you don't get it, 355 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: that just means you're like normal, Yeah, you're like not 356 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: supposed to get it. And also frankly some of them, 357 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes like it's like it's almost a different thing. 358 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: Like if someone's doing, like I don't know, some kind 359 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: of comedy that only comedians get. That's literally like I 360 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: don't know, it's like two writers having a correspondence, like 361 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: an epistolary correspondence. Like it's like, yeah, that's different than 362 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: like what they will publish as a novel. So I 363 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: feel like it's I don't know. I think I think 364 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: you're fine, although now I'm like, now I'm like, okay, 365 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: but that's maybe a cop out, Like how do we 366 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: actually this person does want to get more comedy. I'm like, Okay, 367 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: here's my answer. I would I don't know where you live, um, 368 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: if you live in a city that has a been 369 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: comedy scene, but I think just going to different comedy 370 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: shows is a way to like brought in your horizons 371 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: in terms of what's out there. And um, I truly 372 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: don't know how people find comedy shows. It's like such 373 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: a mixed bag. Yeah, but I would say a good 374 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: policy is like go to one and then see which 375 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: of the comedians on it you like, and then maybe 376 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: ask either follow them on social media or asked to 377 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: be added to their email lists, and then kind of 378 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: work out your network raft from there, like then go 379 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: to that person's next show, and then you'll meet more 380 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: comedians that are similar to them and etcetera, etcetera. Yeah, 381 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: and to keep in mind some of those even those 382 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: shows will be duds, and it's like yeah, Like also, 383 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: if you find a good like weekly show or something, 384 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: you can actually get great single week because they'll have 385 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: different lineups every year. It's like, yeah, there's not As 386 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: someone who both of us have hosted weekly and monthly 387 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: shows before, it is so nice to have regulars and 388 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: people who like appreciate it for what it is and 389 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: know that people are there to work stuff out, and 390 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not the pressure of One of 391 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: the most stressful things is when there is like there 392 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: are two people in an audience that are clearly like 393 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know when sometimes you can tell it's 394 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: like two people that are like a married couple and 395 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: they're like, it's either this, it's like, this is our 396 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: last chance to see if we love each other, is 397 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: going to this comedy show. Like, there are so many 398 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: different kinds of stressful audience member that like having some 399 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: fun regulars that that you can count on as always 400 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: nice and people appreciate that, just like being you know, 401 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: people at restaurants and bars appreciate you being regular. Yeah, 402 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean if you tip well, um, yeah, I think 403 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: that's pretty much that. So there is a second question 404 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: that you wanted to address. Oh yeah, this person also 405 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: that's a question that I thought was funny, um, which 406 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: is has any fan cross the line in some way 407 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: that you'd like to address one I would like to 408 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 1: say I don't really have fans. I would say there 409 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: are simply people. It feels I don't consider you know, 410 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be no, I know what I mean. 411 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: I know it's like the term fan I disagree with, 412 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: but um, they're people. They're like fans of the pod. 413 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: I would never have someone a fan of mine, but 414 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: I like calling people fans of the Fans of the 415 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: pot exist. I think people find us through other people 416 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: sometimes and like will follow us on social media randomly. 417 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: And I had one of those people, uh, do something 418 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: very weird to me once where they messaged me a 419 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: video of them like fully erect, naked and full body, 420 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: and they poured like a full bowl of putting on 421 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: their head, like not like a small bowl, like almost 422 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 1: like a mixing bowl of putting. Had you ever talked 423 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: about putting porn? Never? Never? Once? It's completely out of 424 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: left field, and it like I didn't even know. I 425 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: obviously didn't respond, but it was just like this is crazy, 426 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: because he also had kind of a crazy look on 427 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: his face, like he was kind of like breathing heavily. 428 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: But it was like shot in the day light, like 429 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: just standing in his kitchen, fully erect, pouring putting on 430 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: his head. Uh. And that was weird. That's crazy, that 431 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: was crazy. I'm trying to think. I mean, I'll say this, 432 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: it's like, this is a difficult topic because I think 433 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: because I think people interpret things like body language and 434 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: even normal language differently, and so often someone will not 435 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: know if they are being too forthcoming or if they 436 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: are being um or if you've kind of like allowed 437 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: because you've like opened up about something, you've allowed them 438 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: to then address you in a more familiar way. Um. 439 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: I mean I've had an issue of like someone coming 440 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: to like many of my shows in a row and 441 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: always making a point to talk to me afterwards, and 442 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, being overly familiar in a way that I 443 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: found a little scary. But at the same time, it's 444 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: like that person probably was not scary, but but it's 445 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: just sometimes it is Sometimes it's jarring when someone is 446 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: overly familiar. Yea, that is true, Okay, next question. Oh 447 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: and also, this person went to UVA for undergrad and 448 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: m I T for PhD. Not you're not the pudding 449 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: person this Miller Dawson, Well, we actually don't know where 450 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: the pudding person went to um and the and Dawson says, 451 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: I went to u for undergraund m I T for PhD. 452 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: And that gives priceless insight and context for understanding the pod, 453 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: which is actually pretty crazy, kind of true and weird. Actually, yeah, 454 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: kind of true and weird. The title of our album, 455 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: our joint album. Okay, this next question is from Joseph. 456 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: In fact, it is from j R. Which is how 457 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: they signed it. Now that we can be out and 458 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: meet new people again, I'm scared of the question what 459 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: are your hobbies right now? I work and go to 460 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: school full time and don't really have energy for a 461 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: full blown hobby. When I'm free, I either play a 462 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: video game on the easiest difficulty, why your television show 463 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: that requires zero thought? Or hang out with one or 464 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: three of my friends. Interesting, well, I like that the 465 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: number two is not included because you don't want to 466 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: be a third wheel. You either hang out one on 467 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: one or in a group. I think it's so smart, 468 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: and this question is one of those classic Wait have 469 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: I told you about Sorry, I just said the word 470 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: classical way around me of this? Have I shown you 471 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: the video of Tracy Ullman doing Helen Miren promoting a 472 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: film called Fish Out Those Old Teets? I don't think so. Okay, 473 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm going to talk about this for twenty seconds. 474 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: I pros The entire point is like Calimara went through 475 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: this phase in her career late in her career where 476 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: she would like constantly be nude and it would be 477 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: like so cool that she's like in her six season 478 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: she was nude. And so the joke is that she's 479 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: promoting a film called Fish Out Those Old Teets, but 480 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: the premise of the film is only that she fishes 481 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: out her teeths. So, so the interviewer is like, so, 482 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: what's the story of, you know, what's the tell us 483 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: a little bit more about your character, what's the story? 484 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: And then telling Mary was like, it's fish out those 485 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: Old tates is a classic fish out of what a story? 486 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: And then the interviewer is like, oh, just so, does 487 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: that mean your character doesn't belong like blah blah, And 488 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: then hellmy, I was like, no, no, I don't think 489 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: you're getting it. It's a classic fish those old teets 490 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: outable a story. Well, anyway, I'm sorry I just said 491 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: classic in that way, and I always am making that 492 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: reference to myself. I think that was worth it. Anyway, 493 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: let's answer. I think that was fun. Um So, I 494 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: think this question about hobbies makes me feel like, um, 495 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: I feel like you're completely normal. Sorry to use that word, 496 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: but you seem like everyone has like a job and 497 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: also just watch the TV or reads a book, or 498 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: plays video games or hangs out with their friends. I 499 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: think hobbies are for people that are wealthy. You know, 500 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: dare I say this is a gawker post like against hobbies? 501 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: Oh okay, and there you go. Yeah, hobbies are for 502 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: the wealthy, the or maybe the retired or the successful. Um. 503 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: And that's not ok not to like be like work 504 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: till you die productivity culture. I don't believe in that either. 505 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: I think if you have the time, you should like 506 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: use it to like actively relax. But I just think 507 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: like often hobbies include like space, uh, equipment Like yeah, 508 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: I thought you meant like outer space. No. No, like 509 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: like you have to have like an extra room for 510 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: your bigby or you have to Yeah. Wait, I want 511 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: to push back on that a tiny bit because in 512 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: my mind it can actually I think obviously like skiing 513 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: as a hobby is what you're saying. But on the 514 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: other time, they can also be the opposite, which is 515 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: like a way to something that isn't like going to 516 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: restaurants and going on trips like your hobby can be knitting, 517 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: or it can be even drawing or writing, like it 518 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: can be something that, like, um, that is actually something 519 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: you do. I mean, the whole point of a hobby, 520 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: I think ideally is kind of liberating that it is 521 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: something that you are not doing for money or as 522 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: like a hustle, if you will. Having said that, and 523 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: I say that completely aspirationally, because I don't have that, 524 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: and I always wish I did. Like it. My sister 525 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: um is like was always a very good artist and 526 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: almost like minored in art and and all this stuff, 527 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: and like she just like it's part of her life 528 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: that she paints like beautiful paintings just as a hobby 529 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: and like gives them to family members or will sell 530 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: them for and give the money to like a charity. 531 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: And it's just like I'm so jealous of something like that. 532 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: And she is a full on, like engineering PhD student, 533 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: but she can do this thing that gives her so 534 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: much joy and turn off her brain, or not turning 535 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 1: off her brain, because it's still an activity. Refuse your rain, 536 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: but like use your brain in a different way. Like 537 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: if I had if I was, you know, knitting a sweater, 538 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: and that made me happy that would make me, so 539 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: that would be so nice. Yeah no, I mean I 540 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: guess if you can do it then that is good. 541 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: But it is kind of even though it is relaxing, 542 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: it is productive and it's like hard in the hustle. 543 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: It's like like make that space and even like further 544 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: better yourself because you're like like you're already life is 545 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: already so much betterment it's like sometimes you just gotta 546 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: pick back and watch the tube. But I mean it's 547 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: a I think it is like having a hobby as aspirational. 548 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: But I don't think you're again weird for not like 549 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: recreation of course. Yeah yeah, all right, um yeah, okay 550 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: this is you? Uh Hi Sam and George? Do you 551 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: like this is Daisy? Do you like being recognized slash 552 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: having fans or is it a weird experience? Last week 553 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: at Club Coming, I told Sam I loved him so much, 554 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: and then afterwards felt like I was creepy. So maybe 555 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 1: I'm just asking this to absolve or further shame myself, 556 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: but I do love you both both so much earnestly, Um, 557 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: this is very sweet, Daisy. I remember you coming up 558 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: to me at Club Coming, and uh it doesn't weird 559 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: me out at this point in time, right, like you know, 560 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 1: I was hanging out with UM, one of our more 561 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: famous friends, who was actually very recently on the podcast, 562 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: and he was sort of like, you know, it's tough 563 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: actually because people keep asking me for pictures and I'm nice, 564 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: so I say yes, but then it just keeps happening, 565 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: and I don't really know how to tastefully say no. 566 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: And I can say that I am not on a 567 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: UM long running television program, and so I do not 568 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: have that same problem. And so, as we said before, 569 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 1: we don't really have fans. The pod has fans, and 570 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: so I'm always grateful when someone says they like me. UM. 571 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: I may be bad at it. I don't really know 572 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: the proper response. I'm just like thank you, and then 573 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: I kind of I don't know where we go from there, 574 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: but I still like it. George thoughts, Yeah, well, I 575 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: I just want to shout out one of our stradios 576 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: because they have been very kind to me. UM are 577 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: Glamour Girl Save who In fact, one of their question 578 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: we answered one of their questions during the Last Earnestness Bonanza. 579 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: They were I don't want to say what place, but 580 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: they work UM at a very trendy and very good 581 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: in fact, like kind of all day cafe type place 582 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: that has really good pastries and stuff. And I the 583 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: first time I went there, they recognized me when I 584 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: was paying, and it was like really really nice. I 585 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: was having kind of like a difficult day and it 586 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: made me feel much better, and um, I I then 587 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: became I then became the one being over came earlier 588 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: because then I started going back in the hopes that 589 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: I would run into them again. Um. But then in 590 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: fact I went back a couple of days ago and 591 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: sure enough there they were. And I was looking for 592 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: artisanal donuts to bring to Matthew because he was packing 593 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: because he's moving apartments, and they um mended their favorite 594 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: flavors and I got them and they were delicious. And 595 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: it is essentially like the equivalent of like knowing people 596 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: in your community. It's just like, not, this place isn't 597 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: actually in my neighborhood, but because I know someone who 598 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: works there, I feel it feels like nice to go there. Yeah. 599 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: So so yeah, I will say I really I just 600 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: do not enjoy the app Instagram point blank. So'm I 601 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: have a difficult time, like I often don't respond to 602 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: my own friends on there. So if anyone has ever 603 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: replied to a story or try to damn me and 604 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: I didn't get back to you, I promise it's not 605 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: for any reason other than I simply hate being on Instagram. Yeah. Okay, 606 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: this is from Christopher. Hello, hey, hello, Hi, first time listener, 607 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: a long time emailing emailer. I want to know what 608 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: gives you all the energy, the pep, the kick in 609 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: your shorty short shorts to create comedy. Sometimes it feels 610 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: like the weight of all that has already been created, 611 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: and how embarrassing it is to be a person and 612 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: have feelings and get me oh my god, and get 613 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: me too down? Just gets me too down before I 614 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: even can get myself to start loosely artistic endeavors. How 615 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: do you deal with that? How do you deal with 616 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: some form of that? Or am I as alone as 617 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: my silly mind leads me to believe. Probably a better 618 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: question to start with, but I'm not sure how I 619 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: feel about the next ary visions. Okay, Um, first of all, 620 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: the question is perfect. I just am illiterate, um, and 621 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm just reading the ps and the pps hilarious. We 622 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: are standing forever. Oh and I like the sign up 623 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: thanks paras social pals there you go, Um, yeah, do 624 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: you want to take this one? Um? Where do we 625 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: get the pep in my step? Um? I don't know. 626 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things that you don't 627 00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: necessarily know where it comes from. I feel like I 628 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: just I don't know. So I'm trying to think of like, 629 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: because there's some positive reasons, Like it's like I just 630 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: enjoy comedy a lot, and it like brings me happiness. 631 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: But then there's also negative reasons where it's like I'm 632 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: kind of competitive and like I crave attention. So like 633 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think it's like a combination of my 634 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: good and bad qualities that makes me pursue it. I mean, 635 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: it's some form of audience like my you know, at 636 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: my peak stand up Wise, I just like really enjoyed 637 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: interacting with an audience, and I I think, yes, it's 638 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: negative to want attention in some capacity, but I also think, 639 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: like not to it is also nice to feel like 640 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: you're making people laugh, and like it is very rare, 641 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: you know, in all the jobs we've had and all 642 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: the things we've done, it's very rare to have something 643 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: where you can tell something you did has a positive impact, 644 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: and no part of me thinks, you know, I'm a 645 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: doctor or a nurse, but like it feels nice to 646 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: see someone like literally be in a better mood than 647 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: they were a second ago because of something you said. 648 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: But in terms of the question of how do you 649 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: deal with basically I want to I want to give 650 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: Christopher some any kind of productive suggestions, Like if you 651 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: feel in a rut, what do you do? My answer 652 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: to that, I think is like watch or listen to 653 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: something to be inspired or read something to be inspired by, 654 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: like and and you always think it's when you're in 655 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: a rut and you're just like scrolling on your phone 656 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: and you're you know, not cleaning your apartment and you're 657 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: in bed and I'm not you know, actual mental health 658 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: stuff aside I'm talking about, you know, a mini rite. 659 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: You think you're like, how could I ever get out 660 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: of this? And it's like, if you just watch a 661 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: movie read a book within five minutes, you will have 662 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: read or watch something that is into, sting and inspiring. Yeah, 663 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: I fully agree. And I think sometimes like accepting like 664 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: you're going into a consumption era is like really helpful 665 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: because very true it's so true that you have to 666 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: go into a consumption era because someone you're so often like, 667 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: oh I need to be putting some out, and it's 668 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: like sometimes you just gotta listen a little. Yeah. I 669 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: also think, and not to be too lame, but there's 670 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: like an element of like you gotta forgive yourself for 671 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: those ruts, because like you're gonna if you're like, oh, 672 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything yesterday, so I'm sucking behind and 673 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm twenty four and I'm gonna be twenty five and 674 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: then I'm forty, Like you just kind of got to 675 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: be like it's okay, I didn't do anything. Like if 676 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: I think about my day to day, like do I 677 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 1: get a lot done? No, but like over a month, 678 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: like you actually kind of do get stuff done if 679 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: you do like a little like if you do one thing, 680 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: like every day, you're you're good, you're chilling. So it's 681 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: like about like forgiving the inactive time to you. I think, yeah, no, absolutely. 682 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: It is so crazy when sometimes you'll go months without 683 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: truly like doing anything that inspires you, and then you 684 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: do one thing and you're like, oh god, this was 685 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: available to me this whole time. Yeah, it give me 686 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: a bummer, and also go outside, Oh my god, go 687 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: for a damn walk, go for a bike ride, and 688 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: listen to fucking music and talk to your friend and 689 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: like your friends in real life, not just over text, 690 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: and like hang out with someone who's like funnier and 691 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: smarter than you. You'll just be like, oh right, this rules. 692 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: I love being around people like this, Okay, Sam, Um, 693 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: this is from Dan. This is from Dan Hi writing 694 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: to you from sunny San Antonio, Texas. Hugh Chat out 695 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 1: to Texas. Um. Is there a celebrity or a specific 696 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: scene for a movie or TV show when you were 697 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: younger that you would attribute to being the first time 698 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: you had an inkling that you might not have been straight? Um? 699 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work gaslighting, gatekeeping and glamour girl bossing. Um. 700 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: I love that. Um, George, this is not a a 701 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: first Oh it doesn't say first Oh no, it does. 702 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: It literally says first time. But this this is early 703 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: enough that I that I think is like that I 704 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: think is oh, you know what, I have such a 705 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: good answer to this and it actually is the first time. Okay, Wow, 706 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: I can't believe I just have this memory and I 707 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: maybe I've even talked about this on a different podcast. 708 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: In the movie As Good as It Gets, Greg Kenear 709 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: plays a gay guy, and I'm pretty sure it's it's him. 710 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: There's a simple scene, and keep in mind I was 711 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: six years old when this movie. There is a scene 712 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: where you just see his butt like that. I think, 713 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: I think, if I remember correctly, he is walking while 714 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: putting on pants. He's like in a rush in his 715 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: apartment and like it's going to get the doors. So 716 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: he's like walking while putting on pants, and so you 717 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: see for a brief moment him putting the pants over 718 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 1: his butt, and it was like and I just think 719 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: I remember. I truly do think I've told the story before, 720 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: so I apologize if anyone has heard it. But I 721 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: remember telling my mom um, when I see naked people, 722 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to pee, because like that's how I was 723 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: processing that, Like my penis was feeling something. Wow. But 724 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 1: it was yeah, okay, I don't think it's psycho. That's 725 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: wrong about that. And also it's funny because of course 726 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: I did not know who Greg Canear was. But then 727 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: later in life when I rewatched it, you know, at 728 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: some point in high school or college or something, I 729 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: was like Wow, Greg Kenear was my gay awakening. I 730 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: was six years old and it was in theaters. I 731 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: remember I was with my mom, Wow, No, that's a 732 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: great one. That's a good story. I don't. I've really 733 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: been racking my brain to think of like an early 734 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: early one, and I I kind of can't. I'm like 735 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: I want to think out loud a little, like I 736 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: kind of remember like, um, the movie Anger Management also 737 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: with Jack Nicholson, Um, and there was a lot out 738 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: of like homoerotic tension. The cover of that movie was 739 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: like them close face to face, yeah, and it was 740 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: all about like someone like Jack Nicholson had a big 741 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: dick and like Jack Nicholson, like I wanted to sleep 742 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: naked in the bed with Adam Standler and it was 743 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 1: like I remember that movie, Like all of these jokes 744 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: were obviously played for laps because like gay is bad. 745 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: And then it was like but I was like, wait, 746 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: I wish that happened to me, Like so there's that one, 747 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: and then like but I do think there was like 748 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: and this is when I was a freshman in college, 749 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: so it's less like my first but this was like 750 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: genuinely a turning point in my mind. Where I was like, oh, 751 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: this is okay, I have to deal with this. Was 752 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,919 Speaker 1: watching the movie Kinsey Wow, when like Liam Neeson and 753 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: Peter stars Guard kiss Peter star Guard Stars Guard is hot. 754 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: He's so hot, and it was just like it like 755 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: hit me so hard, and I was like, okay, fuck, 756 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 1: I really have to figure this out. Wow, I should 757 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: watch that movie. It Actually I did rewatch it recently 758 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: and it is quite bad but still hot in Horny. Okay, 759 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: well I think those are both very good, I'll say 760 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: very quickly. My second one was going to be that, um, 761 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: the threesome scene in Zoolander. Oh yeah. I have a 762 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: very distinct memory of like the scene starting and me 763 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: being so turned on that I turned it off, and 764 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: all my life I thought that it truly it was 765 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: like a hardcore gay sex scene. And I and I 766 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: do not think. I think it's just them like both 767 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: kissing Christine Taylor. Yeah, it's like their head like yeah, 768 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: but I was like, oh, they're about to fuck. I 769 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: love that. The power of film. Um all right, and honestly, 770 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: Owen Wilson in that movie, like as Hansen, is truly iconic. 771 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, this is from Ben Hello here are 772 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: my questions, George, do you feel any guilt for letting 773 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: Sam and Shazamed to claim that improv helps with communication 774 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 1: and improves relationships? Sam, do you think Chris Gethard is hot? 775 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: And for both of you? What are your thoughts on 776 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: the Noah bomback m Greenberg? Oh, you know, I watched 777 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: this film literally in the last year, so I that's 778 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: why I started this one because I was like, what 779 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: are the chances? Okay so much the first on the podcast. 780 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: That means a lot to me and it helps me 781 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: feel gay XO XO Benches sincerely, Ben. Okay you okay, 782 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: you start with the first one? Okay? Do I feel 783 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: any guilt? Re lighting Salmon Sashier claimed that improv helps 784 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: with communication improves relationships. I will say our episode just 785 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: here s shire Zameda, one of the kindest and most 786 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: generous and funniest people. You know, UM was on the 787 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: earnest side, and it's something that I was like, I 788 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: actually found very charming because I could see this kind 789 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: of big sister, little brother relationship between you and Sashier. 790 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: And I can't remember if I was being, uh in 791 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: any way reactionary towards the earnest in this at the time, 792 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure I was a little bit, but um, it 793 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: was one of those episodes. I think the Guy Brandom 794 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: episode was like this too, where I think we're going 795 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: to completely direct something through the mud and then it 796 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 1: turns out people earnest opinions about Like when Guy talked 797 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: about table top role playing games. At first, I was like, 798 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 1: that's not what we do here, but then I was like, no, 799 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 1: this is nice. I will say I have in terms 800 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: of my own relationship to improv when we lived in 801 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: New Jersey, I have a very distinct memory of taking 802 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: an improv class like in when I was in like 803 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: seventh grade and truly being so enamored by it. I 804 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 1: just thought it was like the most incredible thing ever. 805 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: But then when I went back to Greece, like there 806 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: was nothing like that. So and then by the time 807 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: I was in college, I was already cynical and thought 808 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: it was like not cool. So I do think I 809 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: was maybe stripped of any kind of improv background. But 810 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: that is my answer to that. Okay question to Sam, 811 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: do you think Chris Keether is hot? Um, I've never 812 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: thought he was hot in my own life. I have 813 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: never been like pining after Chris Catherd. But it's like 814 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: gunned ahead. I'm like, yeah, I think he's very cute. Yeah, 815 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: but you know, he's one of those people that I've 816 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 1: not seen through the sexual lens, which is also beautiful. Um. 817 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: And now, George, I think this is where you take over. 818 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the no A Bombach film Greenberg? Okay, 819 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: So the thing with Greenberg, if I'm not mistaken, is 820 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: that it is the film that was when this is 821 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: when bomb Back cheated on Jennifer Jason Lee with Greta Gerwig. 822 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: Because this movie, yeah, no, it's definitely it definitely is. 823 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: So this movie was written by Jennifer Jason Lee and 824 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: Noah Bomback when they were together, and it stars Greta Gerwig. 825 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: So basically he like fell in love with her, I 826 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: guess on set while shooting this film that he co 827 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: wrote with his wife, who is also in it in 828 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: another role. Yeah, it's a very juicy story. Um. I mean, 829 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: I will say for that reason, it's like kind of 830 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: difficult to watch like that. That and but I will 831 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 1: say it's a really good Ben Stiller performance, you know what, No, 832 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: not that I think about it, I really did like it. 833 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: I like, I liked it, and I was about to 834 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 1: say it's like one of his more kind of thankless movies, 835 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: but I actually think um, in fact, because it was 836 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: co written by Jennifer Jasonly, I assume it actually has 837 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: some more heart and some more humor that some of 838 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: his more like depressing ones do not. In fact, one 839 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 1: could argue that women make his movies better generally, because 840 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: then Gretegor Wigg also make some movies better. Wow. So yeah, 841 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it's I always think it's 842 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: fun when Ben Stiller does like a role that isn't 843 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: fully slapstick. Sure, that's been the Greenberg corner. Um. Whoa. 844 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: I love the all caps help of the conject line. 845 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: This is from Do I read this one? I think 846 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: it's me maybe? Okay, uh, what's up Sam and George? 847 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: This is from Sonja. How do you guys think I 848 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: should make money? Okay, So a little background. I just 849 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: graduated from law school boo, and I don't really want 850 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: to be a lawyer. When I took acid for the 851 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,919 Speaker 1: first time, I was like, I just want to create, Like, 852 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: should I be a lesbian carpenter? Can I monetize being 853 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: a glamor girl, and yes I'm good at everything. What 854 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 1: about cave girl? Summer is France over? Do I deserve friends? Okay? Thanks? 855 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: I love driving around listening to the pod, laughing my 856 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: ass off and feeing intellectual. Wow, thank you God. I 857 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: love this so much. Do you think it's pronounced Sonja? Oh? 858 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: It could be. Okay, I'm just going off with Sonia Morgan, 859 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: the Real Housewife of New York. Oh, I'm not a 860 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 1: real housewife's game. And that's how you miss a lot 861 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: of these things. So what I will say to Sonja 862 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: the first of all, not to hit glamor girls against 863 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: one another. This is one of my favorite emails we've 864 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: ever received. It's just like concise and has a lot 865 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: of different questions but still leaves things open. It's like 866 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 1: familiar with the pod, but not just you know, reference 867 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: after reference. Not that not that I don't like it 868 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: when something is referenced after restaurants, but I think this 869 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: is a very good email. Meanwhile, I don't pick favorites. 870 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: I think and I think it's actually incredible. One of 871 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: my favorite things about the emails that it is signed 872 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: best and Love and of combining the more impersonal best 873 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: with the more personal love. So let's see, this person 874 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: just graduated from law school. Um, and I feel like 875 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: this is in your wheelhouse, this is sort of in 876 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:37,919 Speaker 1: your expertise. Well, first of all, I do think law 877 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: school is one of those things that opens a lot 878 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 1: of doors. Like it it opens more doors than it closes. 879 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: I don't think so many people went to law school 880 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: and are not lawyers. I you know, there are people 881 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: who went to law school who work in journalism or 882 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: PR or marketing. And this is I'm only talking about, 883 00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, real corporate jobs, not even not even touching 884 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: on the fact that I'm not going to look this up. 885 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: But part of me thinks John Oliver studied law at 886 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: Oxford or something. Guy Brandham was a lawyer. Oh my god. Yes, 887 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: better example, better example, because I like him more than 888 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: John Oliver. Um. Yes, Guy Branham went to law school. 889 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: I believe at Berkeley, like at a really which is 890 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: really good law school. And I will say I have 891 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: a friend who became a carpenter and um, like started 892 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: making furniture and like found a place to apprentice. If 893 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: you want to be a lesbian carpenter, Um, how do 894 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 1: you monetize being a glamour girl. Figure that out, yeah, 895 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 1: which I mean, yeah, we truly are we truly are 896 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: trying to figure that out. Um God, I'm not being sorry. 897 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: We have you want to say, just I want to 898 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: be a bad influence and I'm like, follow the follow 899 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: the joy, follow your little acid trip, Like, I don't know, 900 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: you can have a different job, Like you're probably right, 901 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: you probably don't want to be a lawyer, Like I 902 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: don't know what the answer, but at least you know 903 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: what you don't want to do, like and Georgia saying 904 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: you can do anything. I am trying to think. The 905 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: thing is I so relate to or if not relate, 906 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,720 Speaker 1: then I I so. Um, I'm familiar with this feeling 907 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,240 Speaker 1: of like feeling like you want to do something creative 908 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: and not having an outlet yet. I mean I kind 909 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: of think the best thing you can do is enter 910 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: a consumption era, as we said before, and kind of 911 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: be like, all right, what are three things I'm interested in? 912 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: Maybe it's carpentry, uh, stand up comedy and you know, 913 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: get talking, Okay, sure are cooking or so so so 914 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: then like you know, you don't have to jump in immediately, 915 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: but maybe you start going to shows, or start following 916 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: some artists that you like, and and and going and 917 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: and buying their things, or going to like a museum 918 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: or whatever else. I think being exposed to different things 919 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: helps you formulate what you then want to put out 920 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: into the world. Fully agree. Yeah, and France is not over. No, 921 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: Frances is not over. In fact, I've been like wanting 922 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 1: to go to France. Yeah, France is literally about to 923 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: pop off. Um, I mean Emily in Paris. Susan two 924 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: is coming out soon. That is so true. Um, okay, 925 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: this one's you. I think this is from Tash. Hey, guys, 926 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,439 Speaker 1: Canadian fan and glamor girl. Here here to sincerely ask 927 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 1: a two prompt question. What is the movie you would 928 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: sort of comfortably boast is your favorite? One asked? And 929 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: what is the movie that is your true true favor 930 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: when you've rewatched a million times, despite how maybe embarrassing 931 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 1: it is or how poorly at age. Oh, I really 932 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 1: love this one, and I think I have a good answer, 933 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: And then it says ps I was originally going to 934 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: ask George's favorite theorist, but I guess that's a bad question. Huh. Well, 935 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I don't have a favorite theorist. 936 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: But I was talking about this the other day. There 937 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: um is an essay by Eve because Osk Sedgwick called 938 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: something like reparative reading and paranoid reading, and I remember 939 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: reading that when I was in grad school and it 940 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: had a very profound effect on me. So I don't 941 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,919 Speaker 1: know if she's my favorite theorist, but that that would 942 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: be my answer to that. But let's let's answer the 943 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: movie thing. Um. Okay, I think I do have an 944 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: answer to Okay, so the movie I so when I 945 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: was like, all of my favorite movies are already embarrassing 946 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: because they're like movies that, like a teenager who's into 947 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: film would say are their favorite, so they're embarrassing in 948 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 1: a different way. But like, I honestly think my favorite 949 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: movie is Eyes Wide Shut. I think it's like I 950 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: really like going to see it in theaters when like 951 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: it's playing on Christmas at like Metrograph or whatever. I 952 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: think it's like so fun that it's like set in 953 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: you know, in Manhattan, like right before nine eleven. I 954 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 1: have a lot of it's very evocative that they're like 955 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: in fo Schwartz and it reminds me like the toy 956 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: stores when I was younger and whatever. And it's also 957 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: just like Tom Cruise and a cold Kiming at their hottest. 958 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 1: It's like an incredible and cold kidman performance. It's just 959 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: it's fair. It has the sex that has everything. It's 960 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 1: like I mean, Sidney Paul. I just think it's like genius. 961 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not good at talking about film, 962 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: but I is a movie I really enjoy watching. I 963 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,399 Speaker 1: would say, uh in terms of like a true true 964 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: faive uh more of a comfort watch. Let's say I 965 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: mean I truly love devil Wares product. Oh yeah, that's 966 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: a good point. And also and also I would say 967 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: both for like both my sincere favorite and even the 968 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 1: one I say sometimes is my Big Factory Wedding, Like 969 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: I famously love that movie and used to know every 970 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: single word from it, and like I do think it 971 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: holds up and actually has like complex things to say about, 972 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: like the immigrant experience and actually along those lines. I 973 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: don't know if this movie has aged well, so don't 974 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: so I truly haven't seen it over ten years, but 975 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: I remember during the time when I really like Big 976 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 1: Factory Wedding, also liking Bend It like Beckham, Oh my god, 977 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,959 Speaker 1: I love bend it like Beckham I did. I tried 978 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 1: to watch it a couple of years ago. It didn't 979 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: hold up great for me, but maybe I was too 980 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: hard on it. Um. I you know, this is a 981 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,359 Speaker 1: tough question for me because UM my answer for both 982 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 1: the Lord of the Rings the tribology, UM, I don't. 983 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm over like boasting a favorite to be 984 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: like cool and um and so the two have merged now. 985 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: And I I think that is genuinely Uh. That series 986 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: I watched every single year at least once, and it 987 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: really hits hard for me. And I just think it's great. 988 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: And that is not a new thought. No, I love that. 989 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, like what else if I was 990 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: being even more pretentious, I don't know. I have been 991 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: watching many clear Deni movies during the pandemic. I'll say that, 992 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: I'll just show should we go to the next one? Yeah? Okay? 993 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: Is this me? I'm just gonna cut straight to the 994 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: questions because there's a let's choose. There are a lot 995 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: of questions and we're gonna choose some of them. Okay. 996 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 1: The first question, when did you lose your virginities? Which 997 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: obviously is a juicy question. We simply have to answer um. 998 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: And I don't have a great like like one, what 999 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 1: is what is losing your um? Especially as the gay men, 1000 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily subscribe to penetration is it um? But 1001 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: I do want to tell my first like gay hook 1002 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: up because it's interesting um and kind of scary and 1003 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: also grows um. But So I was in college and 1004 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 1: I was not out, and I was like on one 1005 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: of these like old school websites. It was called I 1006 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 1: Think out personal dot com and it was like this 1007 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 1: the weirdest era of like gay hook up. It was 1008 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: like pre grinder lifestyle. And I found this guy that 1009 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: was an r A in like a far away dorm 1010 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: and he was like meet me in the chemistry building 1011 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: bathroom and I literally like I was like okay. And 1012 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: this was like late at night, and it was like 1013 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,799 Speaker 1: one of those bathrooms that you can lock, and we 1014 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: like met in this fucking one person bathroom and just 1015 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: like blew each other and I was like this is 1016 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: and then I like ran away, like and then it 1017 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: ended and I went home and I was like so 1018 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: surprised because I were a freshman in college. I was 1019 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: a freshman in college and how old was he. I 1020 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 1: think he was like a junior in college. Yeah, and 1021 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: he was very It was just very like, you know, 1022 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: you leave that and you're like, I wasn't out, and 1023 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 1: I was like, what did I do? What did I do? 1024 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 1: What did I do? This is insane? Um. And I 1025 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 1: was mostly I think it was a good step to 1026 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: coming out because it happened and it was over, and 1027 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, I'm it doesn't matter. That 1028 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 1: was totally yeah, I'm over it now like there's less 1029 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: it's less heightened. Um. So it was weird, but ultimately good. 1030 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: So my first okay, so my first uh yeah, my 1031 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: first experience, um was freshman year of college. And I 1032 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: have to say it's interesting because after this I then 1033 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,439 Speaker 1: had a I then like for the rest of the year, 1034 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 1: maybe it did not hook up with anyone, or if 1035 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: I did, it was not good. Like I I did 1036 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: not have good experience with the rest of the year 1037 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: and probably an honestly into even my software year. But 1038 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,760 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, my first experience was I thought positive. 1039 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 1: It was like someone I was really really attracted to 1040 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: I had met I thought was very hot and like 1041 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: it just I was. It was one of those things 1042 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: where I was so shocked I was having any kind 1043 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: of contact with a man so easily, and I was 1044 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 1: like I thought maybe this would never happen in my 1045 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,760 Speaker 1: entire life. Like it just I was like not ready 1046 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 1: for it to not not not ready as and I 1047 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: wasn't like consenting. I just was like shocked at how 1048 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: easily and like comfortably it was happening. The only issue 1049 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: is that I was like very very inexperienced. I mean, 1050 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 1: obviously I had never done anything before, but also just 1051 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 1: like I had never even like met a real gay 1052 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: person before. Like it was it was very very new 1053 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: to me. And this was like during one of the 1054 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 1: first weeks of of the college whereas the person I 1055 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,919 Speaker 1: was hooking up with was one of these people who 1056 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: like had an older boyfriend in high school and like 1057 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: would hook up with people in his hometown and was like, 1058 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think I think from the South, um, 1059 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: but just like was way more comfortable in himself sexually, 1060 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: but also just like I was used to frankly better 1061 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: sex Like I was like, I mean not to be 1062 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 1: two t m I, but like I did not last 1063 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: very long. Like it was like it was like I 1064 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: was truly like a child. Um, so I think um, 1065 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: even though I wanted it to continue, I think he 1066 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: was like, I think I can I can do better 1067 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: than we did hook up like a couple more times, 1068 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 1: and then I was just like, I yeah, I think, um, 1069 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: I think it was more advanced than I was. Yeah, 1070 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: it's such a funny thing to think about the first like, 1071 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: because it's weird how heightened it was. Like I was like, 1072 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 1: I remember then going back to my dorm and being like, 1073 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 1: I cannot believe that just happened, Like of all people 1074 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: to me, like I was the one who, like you also, 1075 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what things will feel like. You don't 1076 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 1: know what things will feel like. You definitely don't know 1077 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 1: how to do things. I mean, I also was extremely 1078 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: like that guy. He was really like, I'm sure it 1079 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: was probably the worst blow job he's ever had in 1080 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 1: his life. I was just simply like there, like sometimes 1081 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 1: that's enough. I will say, there's a part of me 1082 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 1: that's so like that is jealous of people who like 1083 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: honestly had sexual experiences in high school. Yeah, I'm a 1084 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: little jealous of that too, But you know, and I 1085 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: do wonder I don't know what things would have been 1086 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: like if I was more adventurous. Okay, second question is 1087 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: has George decorated his empty, tasteless apartment. Frankly, the answer 1088 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: is no. I mean I have, like I have bought 1089 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 1: more things, like I bought this, I bought like two 1090 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: pieces of furniture and some plants and things like that. 1091 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: But like the most important thing, which is things on walls, 1092 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,919 Speaker 1: simply has not happened yet. I've been dragging my feet 1093 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 1: on framing things. And the reason is because I kind 1094 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: of want to move. And I think now that I 1095 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: have this new job and have a little bit more money, 1096 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: I think I am going to try to move. So 1097 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 1: that's the story there. Yeah, and I also want to say, 1098 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: in your defense, while I was there in the daytime, 1099 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: it's a lovely little spot, like sure, it's not like impacted, 1100 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 1: like it looks much worse on screen. Yeah, on screen, 1101 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 1: it truly looks like I'm in a dungeon. It is 1102 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 1: like a very normal one bedroom apartment that's just like 1103 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: slightly and some candles, and I have like not nice furniture. 1104 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 1: It's not like expensive, but like it is, it's not 1105 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: ikea like it is like generally nice. Like yeah, it's 1106 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: not yeah, it's not terrible. Um. And the last one 1107 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: we were going to do from this chunk is what's 1108 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 1: your what What were your biggest insecurities growing up? I 1109 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 1: mean I talked about this. I it was my body. 1110 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: I was like my weight fluctuator a lot. I was 1111 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: very uh big for most of high school Greek families, 1112 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 1: like people don't know how to talk about that stuff, 1113 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 1: so like fully, like family members would just be like, well, 1114 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: you're fat. And this was before the you know, before 1115 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 1: we knew whatever. That was my biggest insecurity. I think 1116 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: mine was a little more like it's kind of basic, 1117 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Like it was like, um, seeming like fem or gay essentially, 1118 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: and so that like that was a constant like don't 1119 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 1: be like that. Um. And then it was also like, um, 1120 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: I think it was a lot of like my interests, 1121 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 1: Like I I think I was always into more childish things, 1122 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Like I always felt a little slower to like jump 1123 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 1: to the mature stuff than other people. And like, and 1124 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 1: now in a way that I'm like is beautiful. I 1125 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 1: think it's like still like kind of true and like 1126 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: is a source of joy. But I think back then 1127 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: it was like, well, I'm like I shouldn't be playing 1128 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: with ugo cards. I'm fifteen now or whatever however old 1129 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: I was, and it's like what twelve years like? The 1130 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: difference is there, but like you can also have fun 1131 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: with these things. I feel like so much of your 1132 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 1: personality and comedy as an adult, which is actually I 1133 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 1: think is very like very nice, is like almost you 1134 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: embracing the like parts of yourself that you were insecure 1135 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 1: when you were younger. Yeah, I fully agree, I agree, 1136 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:58,440 Speaker 1: and it's fun. Yeah, well talking about earnestness. Damn, um wait, 1137 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 1: I lost my button. Okay, there it is Olivia Live Live. 1138 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Um Oh, this is a good one. I've often described 1139 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: myself assists woman as a reluctant hetero. Despite all my trying, 1140 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 1: I just can't quit men. They're ultimately gross, responsible for 1141 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: the destruction of the planets, starting literally all wars and 1142 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: making me think I was pretty but chubby through high school. Honestly, 1143 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: good job giving yourself a compliment during that neg As 1144 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 1: gay men, what is it that attracts you to men 1145 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 1: are either straight or I think that's such a good question. 1146 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: How do you overlook the massive flaws ingrained in them 1147 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: by society from birth? One thing I can't get past 1148 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: is that most younger men have a headset in their 1149 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 1: home for playing video games. If anyone in any in 1150 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: my relationship should be able to dress up as a 1151 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: sassy reception is at the drop of a hat, it's me. 1152 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:57,959 Speaker 1: Um wow, this is such a juicy question. Um well, 1153 01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 1: I think on the first of all, just on a 1154 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 1: base level, I think, you know, power corrupts absolutely. I think, um, 1155 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: if the generals were flipped, we would you know, it's 1156 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 1: just about power and mentioned that power. I think if 1157 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 1: you take away power, they're very funny people. I think 1158 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 1: they're very like I what I like about No, I 1159 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: think I know, I know what you're saying, which is 1160 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: if if you don't mind me like editorializing. I think 1161 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 1: men are childish and that can be charming. Yes, like 1162 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 1: the doofiness I find so hot and like especially like Yeah, 1163 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: I've talked about this before. I I like I have 1164 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 1: a joke about it on stage where I feel like 1165 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 1: women have like the market cornered on like the dumbest 1166 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: horny is people alive and it's just unfair because they're 1167 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: straight man. No, it's true. I do think that's like 1168 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 1: such a you know, um glass half full weight of view. Honestly, 1169 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 1: some of men's words qualit is because it is exactly 1170 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 1: that childishness and that uh brute not brutishness, Is that 1171 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 1: the right word? You know? Like um sort of actlessness 1172 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: and whatever that makes them, you know, maybe not have 1173 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: as much emotional intelligence or or empathy and makes them 1174 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to generalize, but like might make a 1175 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: man not as good as a parent, you know, think 1176 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 1: things like that, like or a partner or whatever. Um. 1177 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 1: And so often when you exit the expectations of a 1178 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 1: heteronormative relationship and lifestyle, you can almost appreciate that stuff 1179 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 1: without dealing with the negative stuff that comes with like 1180 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 1: a man having to like do traditional masculine things that 1181 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 1: he inevitably fails at. I think in terms of what 1182 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: I like when I connect with someone, it's more that 1183 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 1: I connect with a game a gay person that then 1184 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: I connect with a man like. I can't be like. 1185 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 1: The reason I like men is x y Z, because 1186 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: then if I meet a random like guy named Greg 1187 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,439 Speaker 1: at a barbecue, he will have none of the things 1188 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 1: I like and men like That's simply not what I'm 1189 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 1: looking for. So so often it has it has let's 1190 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: do with gender than like that we because of this way, 1191 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 1: we're cheating, like get to have sex with people that 1192 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 1: are have similar life experiences as we do. Okay, wholesome answer. No, 1193 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,959 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think though that because this woman, she says, 1194 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: she identifies as this woman, UM also wants to know, 1195 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 1: like what she can do to be more attracted to 1196 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 1: straight like what she can do to like straight men more. Um. Yeah, 1197 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean I I do think of them as a pet. 1198 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 1: I do sympathize with dating straight men. It does seem 1199 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 1: hard to find like thoughtful kind and honestly, it's it's 1200 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: also difficult to find good game, Like if we're talking 1201 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: about long term ships, I mean some of the worst 1202 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 1: people on the planet, I mean truly like people were 1203 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,440 Speaker 1: friends with, Like I could not imagine ever being in 1204 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 1: a romantic relationship with some of my truly best friends. Um, 1205 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 1: that's a great point. It's difficult. I think, like there's 1206 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 1: always going to be an entitlement there. There's always gonna 1207 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, but but at the same time, there's a 1208 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,120 Speaker 1: way to embrace the simplicity that actually can make your 1209 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 1: life easier. It's true, Like it's like the thing where 1210 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 1: you think you think the other person is five steps 1211 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 1: ahead and you're over analyzing texts. It's so liberating to 1212 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,680 Speaker 1: be like, actually, he's probably not that smart. Yeah, and 1213 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,560 Speaker 1: even you know the headset stuff. It's just like guys 1214 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 1: are gonna some guys like video games, and that's just 1215 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 1: you can't you can't fight it. If that's a deal breaker, 1216 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 1: then that's a deal breaker. And it's good that you 1217 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: know that about yourself. But it's like I often find that, 1218 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, we make fun of eight things on this podcast. 1219 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: We are guilty of it, but you know, it's just 1220 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 1: person to person, and someone that's really into gaming can 1221 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 1: actually be a great boyfriend and some my God, gives 1222 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 1: it all, could be a horrible boyfriend. I do think 1223 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,400 Speaker 1: one of the central tensions of this podcast is that 1224 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 1: you actually worship straight culture. I don't worship straight I know, 1225 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: I know. Oh, this is our last this is our 1226 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 1: last question. And in fact, oh no, I was about 1227 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 1: to say it's the last question that was sent, but 1228 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 1: that is not true because there are other ones that 1229 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: we have to cut. Okay, Sam take it away. Okay, 1230 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: this is from Nico. First of all, thank you for 1231 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 1: the another ernest and Sananza. Well, you know, don't thank 1232 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 1: us and we listened. This could be deeply boring in 1233 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 1: the spirit of the occasion, I hope this email finds 1234 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 1: you well. Thank you question for both what's your favorite 1235 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 1: Nora Ephron and or Nancy Meyer rom com? Um? And 1236 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 1: if you want to do this straight shirter, please do 1237 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 1: third wave coffee or third wave feminism. Have a great 1238 01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: cliff girl summer. Okay, third way of cock your third 1239 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:05,479 Speaker 1: way feminism. I'm gonna go to coffee and randomly same 1240 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 1: and there you go. Um, what do you have an 1241 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 1: answer to this? For me, it's when Harry met Sally who. 1242 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that movie fucking got me and I was surprised, 1243 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,480 Speaker 1: like she is a big rom com head, and I've 1244 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,759 Speaker 1: been learning more about the genres and stating him and um, 1245 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,719 Speaker 1: that one really like you're it's one of those movies 1246 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: where you're watching it and you're like, yeah, yeah, this 1247 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 1: is I get it. They're going through all the tropes 1248 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,680 Speaker 1: of I mean, they invented the tropes of the rom 1249 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:38,839 Speaker 1: com and then like by the end, I'm fully crying. 1250 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 1: It like just absolutely got me and I loved it 1251 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 1: so much. And also I was like, it's nice when 1252 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 1: you like see like a famous person that you've never 1253 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,640 Speaker 1: really understood what their appeal is, Like Billie Crystal, I 1254 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,960 Speaker 1: was like, who, what is this guy's deal? I've only 1255 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: known him as like kind of an old weirdo, and 1256 01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 1: then to see him there, I'm like, Oh, he's incredible. 1257 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 1: This movie is great and perfect well wonderful. I was 1258 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 1: thinking of Something's got to Give, which I confuse with 1259 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 1: as good as it gets. So Something's got to give 1260 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 1: all the time. Something's Gotta Give is Nancy Myers and 1261 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,639 Speaker 1: I and I actually do like it. I recently watched 1262 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 1: it with my family and I and I enjoyed it immensely. 1263 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, do you know what, Here's what 1264 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 1: I'll say. I think if I had to respond right now, 1265 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 1: I would say it's Something's got to Give because it's 1266 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 1: the one I know best. I've seen it the most 1267 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: um and I think it's very charming. I do think 1268 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: it's a little long. I recently watched Private Benjamin for 1269 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,519 Speaker 1: the first time, and I thought it was very funny, 1270 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 1: but also very long and one that I had been 1271 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 1: meaning to rewatch that everyone loves and I've only seen 1272 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 1: when it came out is the Parent Trap. I think 1273 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 1: that's many people's favorite. Is that Nancy Meyers? Yeah, I 1274 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,799 Speaker 1: did not know that it's many people's favorite, And in fact, 1275 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: it takes place in Napa, and I love Nappa. No, 1276 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,679 Speaker 1: I love Parent Trap. I mean a smash Lindsay Lohan, 1277 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 1: she's star. I mean, we don't have the time, but yeah, 1278 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 1: I guess I'll say final answer something. Wait, no, something's 1279 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 1: gotta give. Yeah, the counter reads is so hot in 1280 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 1: that movie. Uh. And honestly, I don't I feel like 1281 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 1: I remember thinking Jack Nicholson was hot in that movie classic. 1282 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Um a lot of Jack talk. I I do. That 1283 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 1: was such a wonderful question, and I don't want to 1284 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 1: um shade the person who sent it. I am like, 1285 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 1: it's so random for us to end on favorite Nancy 1286 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,680 Speaker 1: Meyers movie. Yeah, but it's also like, well, it's not 1287 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 1: an ending. It's simply we're hitting pause and we'll be 1288 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 1: back very soon. Yeah. Wait, we have to talk about 1289 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 1: we have to conclude a little Okay, So like that 1290 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:53,679 Speaker 1: was the end. That was the end of the earnest 1291 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: of Fananza. Now the end of the break, the end 1292 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 1: of the earnest is Bonanza, and the end of the 1293 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 1: first season of Stradio Lab and because it's being released 1294 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:03,640 Speaker 1: the day after Our Lives show, it really is like 1295 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: the last kind of piece of content that's crazy that wow. Um. 1296 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 1: But but I have to say, like I I really 1297 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,360 Speaker 1: feel I truly feel like it's just the beginning and 1298 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 1: I am like very excited for um, for what whatever 1299 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 1: the next chapter will be. I agree. I think I 1300 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 1: think we're going to come back with such a great 1301 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,759 Speaker 1: head on our shoulders and an excitement to do it again, 1302 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 1: and it's really going to be so fun. And I 1303 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 1: agree it is. It's been a this has been a 1304 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,599 Speaker 1: like an experiment almost and it's been interesting to see 1305 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 1: how it's all ebbed and flowed. And I think also 1306 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,440 Speaker 1: there's something about because it was such a pandemic project, 1307 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 1: there's something about like I realized the pandemic is still 1308 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,800 Speaker 1: ongoing and so please don't, you know, drag me through 1309 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 1: the mud. But there's all there's almost something like that 1310 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 1: the pandemic can now end for me personally, like it's 1311 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: letting go, and it's letting go a little bit, and 1312 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 1: like and also frankly, you know, when we're back, we'll 1313 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 1: probably be back in a studio at least some of 1314 01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 1: the time, and it'll it'll it's this us standing in 1315 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: front of a computer, speaking into a microphone, looking at 1316 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:27,639 Speaker 1: a zoom is just it has defined the last year 1317 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 1: and a half for us. And like the very specific 1318 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 1: ways we reach out to people. It's never that we 1319 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,240 Speaker 1: saw them at a show and asked them like it's 1320 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 1: it's everything is digital, everything is virtual whatever, and it's um, 1321 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 1: it is kind of the end of that way of 1322 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 1: doing things. And I think it will only get better 1323 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 1: and more enjoyable and more interesting. And like I think 1324 01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 1: we now that we have like this array of like 1325 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 1: inside jokes and references and whatever else to draw from, 1326 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 1: we can like experiment more. We can do you know 1327 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,559 Speaker 1: kind of maybe we'll do different live shows. It will 1328 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 1: be somehow, you know, more experimental in some way or whatever. 1329 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 1: I don't know. We've been talking. I just want to 1330 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 1: say for a fully two and a half hour, and 1331 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating, it's actually been exactly two and a 1332 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,520 Speaker 1: half hours. When you when you say it like that, 1333 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:23,160 Speaker 1: that makes it sound absolutely insane. Um yeah, well damn 1334 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: well then I guess yeah, we're both let's let's stop, 1335 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 1: let's stop, and and uh, you know this isn't goodbye, 1336 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,120 Speaker 1: This is see you soon. Love you, glamour girls, Love 1337 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: you Glamour girls. And who do who do all? And 1338 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,840 Speaker 1: who do who to all? Have a great summer. We'll 1339 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: see you in school's back hiatus starts now. Wow. Perfect