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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just so happy.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you should be very happy about what

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Speaker 1: you would be about what you've done to our lives. Yeah, quickly, quickly,

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Speaker 1: quick intro Grammy brit Award winning Icon. Both of her

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Speaker 1: Where this is a bully episode. This is an episode

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Speaker 4: By the way, club future nostalgia, that entire special kind

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Speaker 1: Shocked that it's my.

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Speaker 4: It's a country song, It's yeah, you think it has

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Speaker 1: And this cover stuck out to me because of these words. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Is there a song that you're like that's like, especially

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Speaker 1: song Happy for You ends the album, and especially it

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Speaker 1: being titled Radical Optimism. I think that something that's the

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Speaker 1: hardest thing to achieve is genuine, genuine, genuine happiness for

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Speaker 1: the person.

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Speaker 2: Genuine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really the top achievement is genuine by Pony,

446
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Speaker 1: just like that feeling of wow. I saw a picture

447
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Speaker 1: of my ex and his new girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever,

448
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Speaker 1: and I didn't feel like I wanted to throw myself

449
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Speaker 1: off a building. In fact, it was actually I felt

450
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Speaker 1: good about it. Good, like this idea of like, you

451
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Speaker 1: guys look hot together. If my ex and someone else

452
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Speaker 1: ever looked hot together, it would be tough. But to

453
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Speaker 1: get there, to get that.

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Speaker 3: Place, it's like even being able to write that for me,

455
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'm reaching new levels of maturity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is great.

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Speaker 1: You know, both of you are more evolved human beings

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Speaker 1: than I am. Ever, that never had that scorch strength

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Speaker 1: every time, scorch strength every time. How can you guys

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Speaker 1: get over yourselves like that? You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, it's the ego. I know, it's the ego,

462
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Speaker 4: like superseding all. But I'm like, no, Like, this is

463
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Speaker 4: a huge mistake.

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Speaker 1: This is a massive error in judgment for you. It

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Speaker 1: will never be right for me. So you're just not

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Speaker 1: going to release radical optimism that yours is not going

467
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Speaker 1: to be that well.

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Speaker 4: I think the album doesn't really have any bitterness to it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think no even like French exit is kind

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Speaker 3: of like I hope you understand. Yeah, you're you're hoping

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Speaker 3: for someone else to have radical optimism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, slowly, yeah, floating away from a situation. I think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: can I say something about Dua?

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Speaker 2: I think please?

475
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Speaker 1: I feel like you are what you embody beyond like.

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Speaker 4: The music, the work, the writing, the talent, that the

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Speaker 4: effortlessness is also taste because I feel like, say it

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Speaker 4: with Service ninety five, which is your your editorial platform,

479
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Speaker 4: which I literally I wait for the news level you do.

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Speaker 4: I read and I'm like, oh my gosh, she's writing

481
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Speaker 4: about like drag kings this week, she's writing about like

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Speaker 4: lesbian bars this week or whatever. I'm like, there is

483
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Speaker 4: like your time, and like you don't have to be

484
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Speaker 4: honest about this, but like how much of that is

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Speaker 4: you like looking at like I'm sure you have a

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Speaker 4: team of people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a team for sure that there is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well I sit.

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Speaker 3: In in the right it's not really right in like

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Speaker 3: st L, but it's like it's it's a team meeting

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Speaker 3: that we would do on a Tuesday and we would

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Speaker 3: sit and everybody just kind of brainstorms different ideas and

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Speaker 3: it's like Oh, this is interesting, let's dive more into this.

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Speaker 3: Or you know, we've done so many different things on

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Speaker 3: DRAG and it's like, why don't we make a whole

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Speaker 3: issue on that and dive in deeper into that and

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Speaker 3: going in and talking to different chefs from around the

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Speaker 3: world and getting them to make recipes and all those

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Speaker 3: things things that I love and I just want to

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Speaker 3: know more about. So this is stuff that keeps me

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Speaker 3: curious and excited and learning, and so it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: let's commission interesting stories from all around the world and

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Speaker 3: learn more. So it's fun, but it's a team effort.

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Speaker 1: It's a team.

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Speaker 4: Effort, of course, but there's like undeniably like your sort

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Speaker 4: of like layer on it, like as a reader.

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Speaker 2: That's the things that I love.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the things that I just want to I'm

509
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Speaker 3: constantly wanting to know and learn more of. Like I

510
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Speaker 3: turned to Service ninety five when I'm like looking for restaurants.

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Speaker 1: This to take your own recommendation.

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Speaker 2: No, some are mine and then some are like from

513
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Speaker 2: other people that we go in.

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Speaker 3: We had like a whole piece on Cairo, and it's like,

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Speaker 3: I haven't been to Egypt yet, but I know that

516
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Speaker 3: when I go, I'm going to go and look at

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Speaker 3: that and look at those recommendations. So it's really exciting

518
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Speaker 3: to have those bookmark and have something to look forward

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Speaker 3: to and something to learn.

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Speaker 2: From as well.

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Speaker 4: Because I was lucky enough to do at Your Service,

522
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Speaker 4: which is the podcast piece of it, and you were like, oh,

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Speaker 4: like give me like seven things, like we do this

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Speaker 4: thing where everyone knows a list. I do lists, and

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, do it puts together lists. I

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Speaker 4: always remember this. I always remember that, like, well, do

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Speaker 4: a lipa keeps the list of restaurants in every city?

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Speaker 1: I should do this.

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Speaker 4: I maintain these lists. And part of Service ninety five

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Speaker 4: is like the travel piece, right, It's like that is

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Speaker 4: like a huge focus of it. So when I see

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Speaker 4: these people say she's in.

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Speaker 1: Every city, she's traveling so much, I go, this is

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Speaker 1: who she is.

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Speaker 3: Literally, it's just in such a big part of me,

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Speaker 3: Like I love and when I was touring so much

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Speaker 3: of it was like I'm trying to have fun. I

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Speaker 3: want to make sure that I can dive into the culture,

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Speaker 3: try the different restaurants, see the art that's around, go

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Speaker 3: to the different bars, feel the city in a different way,

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Speaker 3: Like I don't want to travel the world and then

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Speaker 3: lay it down the line and be like, yeah, I've

543
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Speaker 3: been there, I've been there. I've been there, but I

544
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Speaker 3: haven't seen anything. I haven't experienced anything. This way, I

545
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Speaker 3: can like go do all the things, have a lot

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Speaker 3: of fun, and then share it with everyone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love it. I wonder like someone that

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Speaker 1: like appears as busy as you do you feel rested

549
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Speaker 1: when you need to feel rested, Like do you feel

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Speaker 1: like you prioritize that, because when you're on an album cycle,

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Speaker 1: I can imagine it's crazy. I mean, you're doing a

552
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Speaker 1: lot for this and it feels obviously the future nostalgia

553
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Speaker 1: rollout was different because of the pandemic. But I wonder like,

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Speaker 1: do you consciously say to yourself like I'm going to

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Speaker 1: chill for this period of time or are you like

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Speaker 1: someone that's like energized by moving all the time. Like

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Speaker 1: I wonder a bit both.

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Speaker 3: Like for me this past like I don't know, a

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Speaker 3: few months, like I had a couple of weekends off

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Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm gonna go to Madrid.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, have fun. You're like him and do that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm in London.

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Speaker 3: It's so easy when you're in Europe because you can

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Speaker 3: just like bounce around. I'm gonna get to Paris for

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Speaker 3: a weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, go to different restaurants, drink good wine, have fun.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to just have fun in the midst

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Speaker 3: of it. Like I'm working on stop, So why can't

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Speaker 3: I just do whatever the fun I want to do

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Speaker 3: on the weekend. And so I just I take the

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Speaker 3: opportunity whenever I can to do that. But then sometimes

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Speaker 3: when everything's like really intense and I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 3: I'll go into the countryside and do that for two days.

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Speaker 3: That's still like a getaway and like doing something and

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Speaker 3: going on walks and hikes and stuff, but it's more chilled.

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Speaker 2: But I'm an activity. Google calendar is crazy. Oh It's

578
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Speaker 2: my favorite thing, and it's popping off.

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Speaker 1: It's full to the.

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Speaker 3: Completely every day. I'm busy every day plans. I know

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Speaker 3: what I'm doing, I know where I'm going for dinner

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Speaker 3: in two weeks time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's not going to be anytime. I'm the same way,

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Speaker 1: like when I look at my Google honder and there's

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Speaker 1: like a whole white day, like it has nothing on it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, can we do it? Am I going to

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Speaker 1: be crazy that day? The day that I'm not. He's

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Speaker 1: so bad at that because honestly, I'm in all the

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Speaker 1: group chats with him. I know what he's planning. It's

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Speaker 1: like he he'll have a few days off and he's like,

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Speaker 1: should we do this? Should we do that? Should we

592
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Speaker 1: go here? And I'm like, don't you need to sit down?

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Speaker 1: I don't have the self governing peace in my head

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Speaker 1: that likes.

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Speaker 2: But do you get energized from that? Or do you?

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Speaker 2: Then you then why did I do this?

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Speaker 1: I'm exhausted. You're gonna see the ills because I'm telling

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Speaker 1: the truth with my eyes. If these walls could talk,

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Speaker 1: let's check back in after you host, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a different thing entirely for you. Obviously you thought

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Speaker 1: you were busy. Wait till wait.

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Speaker 2: Till Yeah, I know that.

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Speaker 3: Week is gonna be man, it's gonna be fun. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna be I know. I'm so excited. I've never been

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Speaker 3: more excited.

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Speaker 1: Always have you always wanted to do it?

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Speaker 2: Or this is my dream?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Working towards this hoping that you know I'd get as

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Speaker 3: to do double ge.

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Speaker 1: I mean your American Glasstow American last all that American

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Speaker 1: glass though. Wow, for you to say that about USA now,

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Speaker 1: such a company man, you're such a great NBC employee.

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Speaker 1: Well you really are an icon, you know. Speaking of icons,

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Speaker 1: we turned to you now to ask the central question

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Speaker 1: of our podcast, which is du A Lipa. What was

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Speaker 1: the culture that made you say culture is for you?

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Speaker 1: This formative pop culture moment that you can look back

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Speaker 1: and be like, oh yeah, du A Lipa definitely became

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Speaker 1: Dua Lipa because of that.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: When I was fifteen, I went to a Katy Perry concert.

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Speaker 1: Well done, good job, already, we're happy.

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Speaker 2: We really about this.

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Speaker 1: No, oh, there's a story. There's a story, Okay, tell

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Speaker 1: the story.

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Speaker 3: So I went to a Kate Very concert when I

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Speaker 3: was fafteen. It was at the hm V Apollo in

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Speaker 3: Hammersmith in London, and I was so excited.

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Speaker 2: Went early to get.

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Speaker 3: To the front of the queue to be in the

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Speaker 3: front row, and there was a moment where Katie was

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Speaker 3: bringing people up on stage to answer her I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know about that, and I, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: It was climbing over.

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Speaker 1: You were being that girl. It's like it's me.

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Speaker 2: And then like one of the dancers like.

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Speaker 3: Hold me up, and I get up and I'm like

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Speaker 3: dancing and uh it's to Whitney Houston. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I want to dance. It is some bad and we're

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Speaker 3: all dancing. It's like the best of my life. My

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Speaker 3: friends are in the front. I'm like, I did it.

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Speaker 3: I'm up here. And every time now when I get

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Speaker 3: off the stage when I finish my show, that's a

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Speaker 3: song that I play to keep people dancing at the end.

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Speaker 3: So I just wanted to like keep that going. And

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Speaker 3: it's so great because when I get off stage, I

648
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Speaker 3: get videos from my whole team of seeing people in

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Speaker 3: the crowd carrying on the party and carrying on dancing.

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Speaker 3: And that was something that Katie Perry like brought into

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Speaker 3: my life. And I just I loved being on that stage.

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Speaker 3: I loved being with her. And she was wearing like

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Speaker 3: the most amazing like it was California Girls. So she

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Speaker 3: was wearing this like sparkly body suit with the yeah

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Speaker 3: swellly boob and the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was just.

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Speaker 2: It was just amazing with the blue wig.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that is such a good fusion. That was

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Speaker 1: ultra moments too, because it's like Katie Perry's concert, like

660
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: giving the ground for I want to dance with somebody,

661
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: and that moment altogether like that, you can see that

662
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: even in your work and your energy and what you

663
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: do that it is about like keeping on dancing, keeping

664
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: the party going, quite literally, so to look back and

665
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: be able to connect that, it has to be.

666
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's really fun and I think about it

667
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: every time. Every time, every time when that song plays,

668
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: I think about that moment when I was fifteen and

669
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: on stage and that happened.

670
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: Did he know about this?

671
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah she does. She does this photographic like evidence of this.

672
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: So honestly, Future Nostalgia was giving me teenage dream vibes

673
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: at the time because I remember, like, you had your

674
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: incredible first album, as did she, but then there was

675
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: like that moment. I wonder, could you feel that moment

676
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 1: and was it like something you expected, like you were

677
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: super proud of Future Nostalgia and kind of knew it

678
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: would do that or.

679
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know it would do that.

680
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: It was definitely something because I was at home. Wow,

681
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: you know, people were listening to the album. I didn't

682
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: feel the intensity of I guess the success of it

683
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: and how much people listened to it, and it was

684
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: only when I went on tour and I basically at

685
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: the future Nostalgia tour was all the songs from the

686
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: album and people were singing deep cuts that I probably

687
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: would have never performed in a different scenario had it

688
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: not been that people lived with the album for two

689
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: years that I was like, oh, like, people love this album.

690
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: I want to see yes to the deluxe. I always say,

691
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: oftentimes the deluxe you have.

692
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: To give you everything, some secret bang is yes, if.

693
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: It ain't me. I mean that is the genable of culture. Oftentimes,

694
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: the deluxe album will give you what you want. I'm

695
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: still in the song in my head. I'm like in

696
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: a fugue state. Now I okay, So can I just

697
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: quickly walk through the story of the sketch that we

698
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: did together. Yes, okay, Marjorie, Marjorie became a legend. Second,

699
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: Marjorie must return.

700
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should bring it back.

701
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: We should bring is everything and more. I mean that

702
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: cut to you, and it's just.

703
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: I've been looking for those so fun. I mean, we

704
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: like walk down to your dressing room, were like, tell

705
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: you the sketch. You're like, yeah, I'll do it.

706
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: We were like, oh my god, okay, great, and then

707
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: you stayed and you wering this like gorgeous like camel

708
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: colored coat on the floor and you were just standing

709
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: there with our stage manager, Chris, and I was looking over.

710
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, do us being so

711
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: patient and so sweet, and she's I can't believe she's

712
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: like sticking around for this.

713
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 4: And then we did this sketch was great. I don't

714
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: I remember this At dress rehearsal it was dead last yeah,

715
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 4: And that usually means it's like buried. It's it's like okay, like, well,

716
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: this could go either way. It could either be great

717
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: or if it's it'll close the show on a high note.

718
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 4: But maybe it's not like top of show, like doesn't

719
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 4: give it the burst of energy up top that the

720
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 4: show needs. And I was like, okay, this might get cut.

721
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: I really hope it doesn't. It's so stupid, it's so silly,

722
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 4: like do.

723
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: Is in it?

724
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: And like, I really hope she has fun this show.

725
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: And then it did well at dress rehearsal.

726
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then between dress and.

727
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: There they moved it all the way to the top yeah,

728
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 4: and I was like, wow, it was like one of

729
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: the best nights of my life because we did the sketch,

730
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: it went great, and then for the rest of the show,

731
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 4: I was like chilling.

732
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm done. And then I got there's

733
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: footage of this, Mary Ellen Matthews that PHOTOGRAPHERTESNL has video

734
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: of me dancing to you doing levitating and like the

735
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: jellyfish Valentino. Yeah, yeah, Oh that was such a moment, and.

736
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 4: That exact moment was me thinking to myself, wow, we

737
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 4: just did like because that was the Christmas show. I

738
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 4: was like, we just did like ten shows that were

739
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 4: so hard to do and like lockdown, we're all so tired.

740
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 4: And then I went, I can't believe I'm one of

741
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 4: the lucky few people in the world right now who

742
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 4: gets to see like a live forms a live performance,

743
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: because it was just like there was no live music.

744
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: It was like literally December twenty twenty, and I was

745
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: just like, I can't believe I get to see this,

746
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 4: and it was just like looking at you like wow, wow,

747
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: oh my god. I was like this is so cool,

748
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 4: and like I feel like you've given me so many

749
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 4: like hits of euphoria, like at every stage with every album.

750
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 4: I remember where I was when I saw new rules

751
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 4: for the first time. I remember I came out like

752
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 4: every roll out, I'm like, there's a time and a

753
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 4: place for it. And that's like, that is like the

754
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 4: emotional connection that I think you make in people's minds.

755
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, thank you so much. I mean when

756
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: I think back to that SNL, I was I was

757
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: so nervous. It was my second time performing at SNL,

758
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: and I remember doing like the sound check and my

759
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: knees were shaking.

760
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: I think it's just like that pressure of it. Just

761
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: you're there. They just go right three two one, and

762
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: it's time. You just go for it.

763
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: Huh.

764
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, I was so nervous.

765
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: And then we did the dresser hussle skit, and then

766
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: afterwards when we all come into the room and Lorn

767
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: comes and gives everyone knows, something shifted in my brain

768
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: where I was like, Okay, I'm.

769
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: Part of a team. That's fine.

770
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: That's how I felt.

771
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: It was like, Oh, I'm part of a team, and

772
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: we all we're all here to support each other, we

773
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: all want this to be the best show it can be.

774
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 3: And when I got up on stage to perform again,

775
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: it was almost like I had this separation of just

776
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: going and performing like I just felt like I was

777
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: more embedded in the in the team. I was like,

778
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 3: this is a production and we're just putting this all

779
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 3: together and this is just another part of a bigger thing.

780
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: Less individual and less individuals everyone.

781
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: That's how it felt.

782
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: And I felt like now and I look at those videos,

783
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: I look at them so fondly because I see a

784
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: different kind of confidence of being part of a unit.

785
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: So I just I love those performances. And that's kind

786
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: of also where I was like, I think I'd really

787
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: like to host yeah some time, and that.

788
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: Was probably gonna to be even more fun because it's

789
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: gonna be another level of that feeling, which is like

790
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: you'll be in every sketch yeah, and performing twice, so

791
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: it's like you're gonna be like almost like the word

792
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: is like executing instead of like no, you're gonna be

793
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: so good.

794
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, It's it's the same. It's the exact

795
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: same like epiphany that you had. It's the same thing

796
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 4: where it's like, yes, you're hosting, like it's like you

797
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: being everything, but but it's a team thing. That's what

798
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: I Yeah, only one every level is there to make

799
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 4: sure that like you have a great time, that you

800
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: come off while, that you score, that it's a funny show,

801
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: and also that, like so much of each show, an

802
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 4: episode is dictated by the host's vibe for lack of

803
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: a better term, And like I say, it's like everything

804
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 4: you do brings this sort of radical optimism, brings this

805
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 4: sort of like very cool kind of joy. This like

806
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: bridled but not bridled as but I just mean to say,

807
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: like it's like deeply comfortable. It's a comfortable, confident kind

808
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 4: of joy. I feel like you've always brought that. I'm

809
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 4: just like hurtling compliments.

810
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: Thank you. I love that.

811
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: I'll take it. I will take it. I appreciate it.

812
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: But the taste thing, I'm just like everyone every gay

813
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: man at a party is somewhere, like anywhere in the

814
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: world right now, there's someone holding a cocktail. But I'm

815
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: like a lipa has the best taste. That's literally happening

816
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: right now, now somewhere I don't know where. It's like

817
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: right now, there's there's there being like does have the

818
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: best and always has and showays has. So you said

819
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: Illusion came first, and I think Illusion might be my

820
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: favorite on the whole album outside of these walls. Is

821
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: there a moment when you're writing Illusion where you're like,

822
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: now I'm fucking excited and is it the pre chorus?

823
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 3: No?

824
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: I just like when that, when that came into the song,

825
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: I was like, here we go. This is like and

826
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if because you say that was first.

827
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: Really yeah, we got really excited about it and it

828
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 3: was different. I also love the dance break. I think

829
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 3: that was the dance break instrumentation. And it's again thinking

830
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: about like the live performance. How can we what is

831
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: this going to sound like when people come to see

832
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: it live? You know, what is the different things that

833
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: we can bring and how can I dance this? And

834
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: how can we make this fun and exciting and joyous?

835
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 3: And yeah, that was like the first song that yeah,

836
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: just really griped men.

837
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: I'm not synesthetic, but I feel it when I listen

838
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: to that album. Does that makes sense?

839
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: Like?

840
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: I feel like, what do you see for Illusion? I

841
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: see like neon blue? Like does that make sense? It

842
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: is not because the album is that a pool. I

843
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: mean the video is at a pool, but like, I

844
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: don't know, I just feel like it's like, but there's

845
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: also yellow, there's yellow. I don't know it's you know

846
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

847
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: It's it's the channel, it's.

848
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: What I'm wearing. It's because I looked at myself in

849
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: the mirrots and and you're like, London. I was actually

850
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: wondering today. I was like, are people going to think, like, oh,

851
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: they booked it for the podcast and that one bleach

852
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: blonde that's what broke that.

853
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: It was so good?

854
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: Do you feel that way?

855
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: I love it?

856
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

857
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: I love it.

858
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 1: Taste. She wouldn't lie, no.

859
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: I love it.

860
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: I love it. I probably just wouldn't.

861
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: Say yeah, you probably would.

862
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 3: You know.

863
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: The girls that my coffee place in l A I

864
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: can tell don't like it because they didn't say anything.

865
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: But that was before I toned.

866
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: That was before you tell me like it was a

867
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: little brass.

868
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: So I walked in and I was like, hey.

869
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: It's like whenever you.

870
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: See someone with like a new hairor new look and

871
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: you're like hi, and they're like, hey, so, how's your

872
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: day going? And I'm like, oh, god, not how's your day?

873
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: Really skipped over the headline headline of that nasty headline

874
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: of wow, you're blonde. Now you really did it well?

875
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: I love it.

876
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Thank you? My therapist does two. I lugged on and

877
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: there was like that moment of like I had to

878
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: laugh because I was like, I'm logging on zoom and

879
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: she's gonna see me blonde. And then the therapist, you know,

880
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna have to like, Okay, my thirty four year

881
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: old game is blonde, so go ahead. But I'm fine,

882
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: I'm great.

883
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: What's one reaction that stands out to you of you

884
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: showing someone that your new hair this color, which is stunning,

885
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: by the way.

886
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 2: Thank you.

887
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: Someone was like, oh, hey, wow.

888
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: It's nice. I actually don't know.

889
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: People would be too scared scary. No, no, but no,

890
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: people wouldn't want to like so doubt in your mind.

891
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no I am. I think it was more

892
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: initially I had.

893
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: It a little bit bleached, huh to get it to

894
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: the red because my hair was really black, right, And

895
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: I think it was really my hairstylist, Peter, who just

896
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: took one look at it and he was like, it's

897
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: in cold condition.

898
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: We gotta do a little bit of work here.

899
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: And it was just like the speed dialing calling me

900
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: being like her hair is gonna fall out, don't.

901
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: Do something about this.

902
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 3: And I think it's like the fear in his eyes

903
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 3: that I saw that. I immediately I was like, oh,

904
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 3: I'm in.

905
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: Trouble after the first round of bleach or just it was.

906
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: Just like the first round of bleach and the hair

907
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 3: just wasn't in good shape. It was more just like

908
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: I got lucky because like the front bits were holding

909
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: out all right, like they didn't have a lot of

910
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: bleach on them for a very long time, so they

911
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: were fine, and it was just almost like at the

912
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: back that was just like little clumps of hair. Clumps

913
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: is such a clumptic word.

914
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: Clums the dance bread and clumps. Only you can.

915
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: Don't bring back the clumps.

916
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: No one wants the clum We want healthy, healthy and.

917
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: Going on with hair that you don't realize that. Even

918
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: my friend Greta and she was like, we might have

919
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: to double process, and I'm like, what is double process?

920
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: Was like?

921
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: And was the first process bad? Like? But there's so

922
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: much it's so much more complicated than you think that

923
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to change my hair.

924
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: It's so much technicality with it and you have to

925
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: be so careful right here. But it's good now, Yeah,

926
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: that's great, it's good now. But the first glimpse I caught.

927
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: I was like, oh no.

928
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, who's that person? You're like now I

929
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, you don't recognize yourself.

930
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: And then just waiting because my experience being blonde that

931
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: was traumatic?

932
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: Was it really?

933
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like it was fun for a little bit.

934
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: But when I went like Draco Malfoy level, like I

935
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: wanted to be like peroxide blonde, it's just every shower.

936
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it just clumps, the clumps. It was the clumps.

937
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: And I had like an involuntary like what's it mullet,

938
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: Not an involuntary mullet. Involuntary mullet. That's when you know

939
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: things are not going well.

940
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: Voluntary and.

941
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: Or it just not at all. No, not for me either,

942
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: but I had one.

943
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 3: So it just it was there and I would wake

944
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: up in the morning and I'm like, right, let's try and.

945
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: Show it up for electricity like that era.

946
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: No, And it's just it was a week. Oh so

947
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: it was after it was don't start now.

948
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: Oh, but like the roots were coming in chic sheep,

949
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: I think so.

950
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: I think they were the bleach plant is like, no,

951
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: it worked for a little bit, but there had to

952
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 3: be a lot of magic behind the scenes that was

953
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: happening there. That's why I couldn't keep it for long

954
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: enough because it was just so clumps clumps.

955
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: We just said the words don't start now. And do

956
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: you know what, Sung never got the respect it should

957
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: have gotten, even though was the single and did well.

958
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: This should be a national anthem internationally. Physical Yeah, yeah,

959
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: you think it is my favorite? Yeah.

960
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: I still being in the industry, I still haven't quite figured.

961
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: Out how like which one is gonna.

962
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: Like how things like what or whatever.

963
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: Like, I just put them out and it's it's good

964
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: because on tour it just like it kicked.

965
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: Off, So I'm like the one, this is the one.

966
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I just never really think of things

967
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 3: in terms of like chart stuff because it's but I

968
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: get it.

969
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 2: Physical is a it is a banger.

970
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: It is so good. You know, when we were guest

971
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: judges on drag Race, the lip sing song was hallucinate,

972
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: were very I love, Yeah, it's really good. That was

973
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: that was a moment we look like, have you guess

974
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: judged drag Race before?

975
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: I haven't.

976
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: Oh god, they got to roll on the red carpet.

977
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: They do so many of your songs.

978
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 2: I know, I've seen a few of them.

979
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: There's been some Nastroga doing physical physical is incredible that

980
00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: the physical.

981
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: Physical, it's so good. I've always seen what I saw

982
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: the sweetest pie.

983
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: They did break my heart.

984
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 2: I think I've seen all of them.

985
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're all pretty indelible. They're really canonized in

986
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: drag Race, and I think it like it has to

987
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 4: do with the song.

988
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: There's one that Simone did too. Yes, okay, yeah, it's

989
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: so fucking chic. It's so good.

990
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, I feel like there's a concentric circle

991
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 4: around what you put out that like also makes other

992
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 4: people do something beautiful and tasteful and joyful.

993
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: This is like.

994
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 4: I got so shy talk to me the first time,

995
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 4: and I still am, but like the first.

996
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: Time I talked to you, because I was just like

997
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: we have to go like picture of silly little sketch

998
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: to do, uh, because there's such a superstar but the

999
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: thing is no, but I mean you are, but like

1000
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: yours are so kind and cool that it's like I

1001
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: understand what he's saying because like you are like this

1002
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: is like such a bizarre word. It must bizarre to

1003
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: be this, but like being like an idol, like a

1004
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: pop icon, like very few people are, and so you

1005
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: understand why a gay guy is like I was nervous

1006
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: to meet you. You get it, You get like boa guys,

1007
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: these gay guys. There's so many gay guys telling you

1008
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: holding cop and they're nervous to meet you.

1009
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: But then they meet you with and it's like we

1010
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 3: can hang out and we're going to the box.

1011
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go to the after party? Yes?

1012
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: You got one thousand percent?

1013
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: I don't think somebody Ryan Gosling did not show up

1014
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 4: to the after party, And that's okay, it's actually it's

1015
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 4: not a real I don't think so many because he's

1016
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: like he's Ryan.

1017
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: Got go but one thousand percent. But also sometimes like

1018
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 3: I'm so excited.

1019
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: There was one moment where I'm just gonna say we

1020
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: were there. It was the Lizo episode, uh huh, And

1021
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: there was the after party and Lizzo showed up ready

1022
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: to party for the after party and no one was

1023
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: giving the party, and I was like, you guys, Lizo

1024
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: just showed up and is ready to do this. Literally

1025
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes later, are we are we dancing?

1026
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: Are we hanging?

1027
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: Are we we need to push for dance? Yeah?

1028
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 4: Push for dance, Yeah, because normally it's like not a

1029
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: dancing situation, push for dance. The only time it got

1030
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 4: so dancing was when in recent was when RuPaul hosted Okay, I.

1031
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Feel like you're on that level where it's like we

1032
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: gotta okay, Okay, we're gonna do Dan, you have well,

1033
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: I guess like you both can kind of make this happen.

1034
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: Where should you pick and just tell Lauren like or whoever? Yeah,

1035
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: like Lauren books the after bart. I'm just wondering if

1036
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: zero bond was available on the fourth, we're actually gonna

1037
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: have some fun and dancing.

1038
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. Have you been in a basement yet?

1039
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

1040
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: Wait, you would be Mom's at basement. I haven't been

1041
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: to basements like a berg heint inspired like club and do.

1042
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: You put on a wigan go incognito? No?

1043
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: I have not done so, but maybe I should.

1044
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you need to? Could you?

1045
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: I know, I just do that.

1046
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: I just well, you just go you just.

1047
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be okay, guy? Can you go nowhere? You

1048
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: can't even go into McDonald's. Can you probably a scene?

1049
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: The way gay men talk, you must be insane right now.

1050
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: No, we're not insane. We're being normal.

1051
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 4: No, but it's like, do you it goes to basement.

1052
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 4: She's not gonna be bothered at all because it's gonna

1053
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 4: be all of these gay men like shaking in the

1054
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 4: corner being like we can't go talk to her, but

1055
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 4: you can.

1056
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: We can't have people getting sweaty up basement.

1057
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely.

1058
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: Is it like an every night thing, weekend thing.

1059
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 4: Mostly weekends. People love to come out as the sun rises.

1060
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: It's that kind of thing.

1061
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: I love it.

1062
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: I think it's your like time cafe.

1063
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: No really, because that's like a really American thing with

1064
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 2: things carries three or something.

1065
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: It's three here, it's like one everywhere else. In a

1066
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: very shocking and traumatizing way. It's like you're sending me

1067
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: home now.

1068
00:50:59,400 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: I WoT it.

1069
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm like this is crazy, Like I'm acting like I

1070
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: have all this energy like to be out until four

1071
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: every night, but like sometimes it does feel weird, like

1072
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: in La everything's down one now.

1073
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.

1074
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: People got to do like the London model where it's

1075
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: like go to Dalston Superstore and stay there. Love London.

1076
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is the Spanish thing with people like

1077
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 3: go to the club at like two and then you

1078
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 3: leave crawling at like five.

1079
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1080
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: That perfect to do Spanish.

1081
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: In a lot of ways the Spanish now.

1082
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: About Spanish people, and not to generalize, but it's like

1083
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 4: that I've talked about the Madrid airport at length.

1084
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: Oh Bowen, Yeah, sure, are you public about this? You

1085
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: had a grinder hook up at the Madrid airport. It

1086
00:51:54,680 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: was just like Layoverdrid day to.

1087
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 4: Madrid back to London. The walk from gate to gate

1088
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 4: was like twenty minutes.

1089
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: Right.

1090
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: The Madrid reper has a sea thing where it's like

1091
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: to this terminal, it's gonna be like a fifteen minute walk.

1092
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: Get ready, and so you walk and every guy I

1093
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 4: passed was like eyeing me, and I was like wait

1094
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 4: a minute, and then every guy would get progressively hotter

1095
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: and hotter, and I'd be like, what is going on here?

1096
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 4: And then finally it was like okay, let me just

1097
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 4: open up my apps. And then like ten minutes later, like.

1098
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: You were blowing up. It was do you have a

1099
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: Brinder account? That would be iconic if you were just

1100
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: on this like training season is over? Like, uh, by

1101
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: the way, Barries, do you live a thing with?

1102
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1103
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: We did a training season thing.

1104
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: I did do a class.

1105
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: How is it really good?

1106
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: Shout out to Matt Conrad in La and Hollywood. It

1107
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: really doesn't all do a class? Oh my god. Fun

1108
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: it was good and then there was a shake yeah,

1109
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 1: and I.

1110
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: Had it and it was I just guessed as a

1111
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 4: Barris class, how did it go? I was like, oh,

1112
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 4: I have all these bets planned didn't do a single

1113
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 4: one of them because Lindsay Clayton, who is a star

1114
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 4: trainer at bet Barr's Chelsea, was like, okay, everybody like

1115
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 4: get on the floor and like I did like one

1116
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 4: shoulder tap. I was like my brain melted. I couldn't

1117
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 4: say a single It's hard.

1118
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 3: Berries.

1119
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: I've done Barries.

1120
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's so intense.

1121
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't love it.

1122
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 3: I don't love running like I much prefer like double floor.

1123
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: His double floor.

1124
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: Everybody do his double floor, double duty, double floor.

1125
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: Like that twenty nine. I'm ten or whatever. No, I'm

1126
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: in the twenties. Do you always pick the same one

1127
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: if you can? I'm always on T eighteen or no,

1128
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: T twelve. No, but that's a nice auspicious thingious thing

1129
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: for me. Anyway. If there's a dual class that barriers

1130
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: take it, you're gonna sweat, it's gonna be fabulous. We'll

1131
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: regret it, I'll move. I think it every time for

1132
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. So this is the segment

1133
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: where we kind of go off for a minute, if

1134
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: you will, on something in pop culture that's bugging us.

1135
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: And I have something topical, all right, this top of

1136
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: my head and topical, Matt Rogers, I don't think so, honey.

1137
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: Time starts now. I don't think so, honey, just because

1138
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: someone is blonde that they're in crisis. Okay, I really

1139
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: appreciate your concern. I promise you. This is a reflection

1140
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: of my happiness and my say it with me radical optimism.

1141
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: If I was in crisis, I would not roll the

1142
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: dice on my head. I get that some people do this.

1143
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: That's not how I am. This is an expression of

1144
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: the color of my spirit blonde. I also feel that

1145
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: I've been spiritually moving in this direction for years. Will

1146
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: it remain this way? No?

1147
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: For the summer.

1148
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I'm at Glastonbury, I'm gonna be looking like this.

1149
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: Come up and talk to me. The vibes are gonna

1150
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: be high because I'm gonna be seeing Dua Lipa. I'm

1151
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: literally I don't have a ticket yet, but I'm debting one.

1152
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking myself into going, and yow, I'll be blonde

1153
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: and it won't be because I'm upset, because I'm thrilled.

1154
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: So please join me. Everyone, dye your hair blonde. What

1155
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: you do is you go and you get the bleach.

1156
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: You put it all over your head. Your friend can

1157
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: do this, and then you put a little bit of tone.

1158
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: Ron.

1159
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: Make sure you get that purple shampoo. If you have

1160
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: to double process, do it. Purple shampoo is major used

1161
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: it today? Am I overusing it? Maybe? But we'll find

1162
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: out soon if my hair is lavender. But for now

1163
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: it's blonde, and I'm happy about it. That's one minute.

1164
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: There we go and it's the colors of illusion.

1165
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: I feel like I held my breath through all of that.

1166
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 3: I feel like I've gone the color of purple shampoo.

1167
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 4: Listen, if you overget correct, it's actually fine because purple

1168
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 4: also that silvery kind of blonde looks kind of cheap.

1169
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: It could be kind of good, you know. But then

1170
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: you were saying in the elevator that a little bit

1171
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: of brass is in. I was like, okay, I take

1172
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 1: a little bit of brass is in you blonde? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1173
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: See.

1174
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, it's like my therapist didn't

1175
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: think this either. When I logged on, she was like, oh,

1176
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: I didn't think necessarily think something was wrong. But I

1177
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: also think it's like an easy way to pick on

1178
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: someone like oh, he's blonde, right right right. Like I

1179
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 1: was reading through the comments I should not have done

1180
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: this on that post where you premiered absolute stalker. Well,

1181
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: I was just like, what are people saying? Because I

1182
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: was I was seeing some nonsense, and I was like, y'all,

1183
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: he's fine. My dad dragged me. He was like, well,

1184
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: I bet there'll be an Instagram Live to debut this.

1185
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, Dad, no, I didn't do this

1186
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: for everyone else. I did this for me. Seconds later me,

1187
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: but he really got me there. I bet they'll be

1188
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: an Instagram live. Uh. Oh.

1189
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 4: Anyways, he knows me. Are you ready to do your

1190
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 4: I think so. It's it's a little bit pedestrian, but

1191
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it. I don't think that's for you

1192
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 4: to say. I think that's for the critics out there

1193
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 4: to say this is Bowe and yangs. I don't think so, honey,

1194
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 4: his time in fact stars now I don't think so, honey.

1195
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 4: The crisping drawer, what are you doing? The crisping drawer

1196
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 4: in the fridge. It's not doing the work.

1197
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with this?

1198
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: Crispings? What do you call me?

1199
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 4: Put that vegetables? Fruits doesn't do anything? Could be a

1200
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 4: box with a poor handle off. I come home after

1201
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 4: three days away from my apartment. The grapes, the spring onion, moldy,

1202
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 4: the ginger absolutely fungally destroyed. I don't know what I

1203
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 4: have to do to keep my produce fresh. I'm looking

1204
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: up all of these solutions online. It's fifteen seconds, fill

1205
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 4: a jar with water and cut up your cucumber and

1206
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 4: then put it.

1207
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not doing any of that. I'm

1208
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: keeping the vegetables whole mother nature intended. And if you're

1209
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: not going to do anything for your refrigerator, I am

1210
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: just going to salt everythings. You is it's the world

1211
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: against me? The crisping drawn at it right.

1212
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: I was like, what even is that?

1213
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: I had to take a second. So, but that it is?

1214
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: That is what it's called.

1215
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: Is it something else in dripping?

1216
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1217
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: I just I thought it's just a draw in your fridge.

1218
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, exactly. But to put now, to have a

1219
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: name for it, to say crisp, I might be crazy.

1220
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: I might have named it's something that no one else

1221
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: calls it. My issue with the crisping drawer. It's great

1222
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: already back there, back up, it's called the crisping draw

1223
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: she's actually looking it up? Are you literally looking it up?

1224
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: Because I broke my last apartment. It's incredibly easy to

1225
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: break as when it wasn't doing anything to beget I

1226
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: took it out because it got Yeah, And that's my

1227
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: concern is that the crisping drawer is where I put

1228
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: everything where I'm like, well, I guess I'm healthy now,

1229
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: healthy girl, And then you put it in there and

1230
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: it's shrivel. You never touch it.

1231
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: I get it. I get you get it.

1232
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.

1233
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: No, I understand, and I get the drama.

1234
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: Here's the part where you pop off. Are you ready

1235
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: to do your I don't things so, honey, because you

1236
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: came in and you definitely have.

1237
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had one.

1238
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 3: I know.

1239
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: I'm like with it.

1240
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: We were okay starts.

1241
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 3: Now, I don't think so, honey. I think you can

1242
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: work hard and play you know, I feel like, no

1243
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: matter what, people are still gonna call you the Thekanza Queen.

1244
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: Everyone think that I'm always on holiday. I'm not always

1245
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 3: on holiday. I'm actually always fucking working. Yeah, but I

1246
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 3: make sure that I do the work. I get it done.

1247
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 3: I never make I make sure that I want.

1248
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: You make lists forgot?

1249
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: I make lists.

1250
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: I also never do the same job twice. I make

1251
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: sure that I do it well. And I do it

1252
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 3: well the first time, yes, and so I never have

1253
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 3: to do it again. So then I have more free

1254
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 3: time to hang out, chill and do nothing but have

1255
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: fun when I'm not working. Fifteen that's it, and I'm

1256
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 3: working and I'm having fun right now.

1257
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want, and you can play. You can do

1258
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 2: anything you want. You can do five seconds you want.

1259
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: That's it. First of all, when goes on vacation, that

1260
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: is a text right off, that's going into the worst,

1261
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: going into the war, going into the world.

1262
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: So I can then come back refreshed, yes, and looking cute,

1263
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 3: so I can do more.

1264
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: You don't have illusion if do it doesn't go on

1265
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: vacation period. Do you want that world? Shut up? Shut up?

1266
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: Pop crazy? And she might do Coachella, but stop class

1267
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: and during first and stop you're being too much.

1268
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 4: If she's the Theconza queen, then we are the Thecanza gesters,

1269
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 4: and we are Yeah, we are.

1270
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: I just booked with Aconza to go to Coachella.

1271
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: Okay to go, Vicnza to go.

1272
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: I have so many emails from Vicanza asking you the review.

1273
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: I don't have the greatest review of the place I

1274
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: stayed in Coachella was like to get in the gated

1275
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: It was like a gated community, B and B and

1276
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: let me say something about the gate. There has to

1277
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: be a button, a button because human error can happen.

1278
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: There's someone there twenty four hours. There wasn't ever cut

1279
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: to me at three in the morning after Neon Carnival,

1280
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: can't get into my damn home, after DJ James Kennedy's

1281
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: big set. Do you watch vander Pump Rules?

1282
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: No?

1283
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: I did watch any reality TV?

1284
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: No I did.

1285
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 3: You're just should because I just feel really left out

1286
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 3: because everyone's like vander Pump Rules all that something else.

1287
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: I feel left because everyone's rules. You are queen of taste.

1288
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: You don't have to touch it, don't want to do

1289
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: you watch or you just always she's reading Pinko. She's

1290
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: not watching television.

1291
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: But you know what, I just watched his baby rained it.

1292
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: Oh, hey, watch Taste. Everyone is talking about.

1293
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 3: This one more episode left.

1294
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 1: Yes, I heard it, pops off. I hear it's great. Yeah,

1295
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: belieb okay, this is gonna be the show of the year.

1296
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: All right, love it, babyan dear, I'm watching. I always

1297
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 1: look to him as like my she Taste maker friend

1298
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: because he always finds things first. Have you ever watched

1299
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: Perfect Blue? No, tell her about it? You watched Perfect

1300
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: Blue series?

1301
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 4: So Toshi Cohen, did you ever watch Paprika that anime

1302
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 4: film or Took Your Godfather's or Milinny Mattress? Okay, so

1303
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 4: she is like was at the time a contemporary of

1304
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 4: like a Miyazaki kind of People were kind of putting

1305
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 4: them in the same camp. But it's this His first

1306
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 4: movie is about this pop star who transitions out of

1307
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 4: a pop girl group in nineteen ninety so this movie

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01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 4: comes at nineteen eighty seven. But then she transitions into acting,

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01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 4: and then her stalker gets mad, and then she finds

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01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 4: this like blog that's written in her voice, but it's

1311
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 4: not her who's writing it. But for some reason it

1312
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 4: knows all these details about her. There's all these twists,

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01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 4: like her manager is a little bit suspicious. And then

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01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 4: it's about how like the Internet is distorting her reality

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01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 4: and like she's believing what the internet version of herself

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01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 4: is like being fed to her. It's like really fascinating.

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01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 4: Like for me, it's about all these things, but like

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01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 4: I watch it as a reminder that like whatever is

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01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 4: going on in here is like not real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

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01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 4: Or it's actually least perfect or the perfect perfect blue

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01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 4: perfect perfect. And it's a title of like a pulpy

1323
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: novel Japanese novel that was adapted the director Statuchico was like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know why it's called that, but I'll make it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know why it was called that either.

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01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone knows why it's called that. Very

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01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: dark and scary, but like at the end, again there

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01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: is radical optimism at the end. I believe like there

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01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: is a moment at the area where do you understand

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01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: that there's been like like some growth and a change.

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01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: And just like while we're talking about that, I wonder

1332
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: because he picks up the phone and you're like, it's

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01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: not real. Was there a moment that there was like

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01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: a transition for you and like I'm engaging with people

1335
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: and like what they think to now? Or do you

1336
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: find yourself like still engaging.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a bit of a push and pull.

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01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 3: I took myself off Twitter just as I was writing

1339
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 3: Future Nostalgia. But I was like, people were so mean

1340
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 3: all the time, and I started thinking that everyone thought

1341
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 3: that of me, that it was real until like I

1342
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 3: would go out and I'd be in the park and

1343
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 3: someone would just come up and be like, Hey, I

1344
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: love your song or h this made me feel really

1345
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 3: good or whatever, and I was like, oh, wait, maybe

1346
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 3: like the public perception isn't the way that I think

1347
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 3: it is. Like I would get really like nervous because

1348
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 3: I would think that maybe people were having all these

1349
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 3: like weird thoughts about me, or like I would be

1350
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 3: almost like in a way self obsessed and a weird thing,

1351
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 3: and it wouldn't allow me to connect with people because

1352
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh, they probably hate me or they

1353
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 3: probably think this about me.

1354
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: Very distracting creative. I don't want to have that at all.

1355
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 3: So I got rid of Twitter, and then I was

1356
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 3: able to write an album that felt really freeing and

1357
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 3: good and whatever, because I was like, it's not real,

1358
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 3: it's completely separate.

1359
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: People spend a lot of.

1360
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 3: Time online to try and bring you down or make

1361
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: you feel bad about yourself or make themselves feel better

1362
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 3: or whatever it is.

1363
01:04:59,000 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: It's like an outlet.

1364
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: And instead of being like you shouldn't say what you

1365
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 3: think or trying to retaliate in that way, it's like

1366
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna remove myself, yeah, and then I don't

1367
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 3: hear it, I don't see it, and I can just

1368
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 3: get on with things in a different way and have

1369
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 3: normal experiences and do what you do, yeah, instead of

1370
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 3: without having to let that yeah, you know, sit on

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01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 3: my head kind of thing.

1372
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: Because this movie is great because it's like she engages

1373
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: with this bizarre, distorted reality and then literally in the

1374
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: film that physicalizes for her with that character becomes like

1375
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: real to her, and it's like very surreal. It's almost

1376
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: like Black Swan, where it's like there's like another version

1377
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: of her that's antagonizing her, and it's really like the

1378
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: created fantasized version of her. I have to see that. Yeah.

1379
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: And this came out like pre Y two K two,

1380
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: like so pretty ahead of its time in terms of

1381
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: like yeah ninety seven, especially talking about the Internet, Like

1382
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,479
Speaker 1: the computer that she uses in the film is like

1383
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: a nineties computer, Like so way before there was like

1384
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: vility on the Internet like that right on the pulse.

1385
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: But for you to talk about Twitter in a way

1386
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: that like everybody talks about it, which is everyone's me,

1387
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: like every literally everyone has that experience and that says

1388
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: it all. Favorite place to vacation.

1389
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: M such a hard favorite place vacation.

1390
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: If you said Epcot right now, it would rock, It

1391
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: would rock. The Disney World now you're so cheap period.

1392
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 3: No, I think like you can go to South of Albania,

1393
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 3: Orbitha I love, We've never been to.

1394
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: Is really fun.

1395
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 3: But when I say Beth, the people immediately think of

1396
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 3: like the one strip with all the clubs where it's

1397
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 3: like absolute carnage. But you can do really like peaceful quiet.

1398
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: There's amazing restaurants in Ibitha. It's really chill, beautiful little beaches,

1399
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 3: little cur It's amazing. And then you can like dip

1400
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: out once a week and go to d C ten

1401
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 3: and just rave. So you just need like it's about balance.

1402
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: But I love because you get best at both worlds.

1403
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: That's cool. I love it. This has been so fun

1404
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: and such a joy. I'm like, so Galvan, I used

1405
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: to go to Glastonbury now because I've never been, and

1406
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna should.

1407
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: Be it will be absolutely mad.

1408
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: Who are the other headlines.

1409
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 3: Saturday? On Sunday, Shania Twain is doing the Legend slot. Yeah,

1410
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 3: you know it has to happen.

1411
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's not last.

1412
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 3: It's gonna be totally are you. I love Shan come

1413
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 3: on over actually mad after the Grammy's at an after

1414
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: party and she can stay high. I was like, wow, excited.

1415
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a fucking stacked line up. But like you,

1416
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 4: I think are holding a very very beautiful position on

1417
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 4: that hooster for me because it's like, I think your first, your.

1418
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 3: First Friday night, because then that means you can just rally.

1419
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1420
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: And also it's like the Friday night spot is really

1421
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: important because it does set a tone like a case,

1422
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: just as like it was so sick and then Billy

1423
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 1: came out and that was like a moment forever and

1424
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: it did like set the whole weekend on fire. Afterwards,

1425
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: well we're all living the best experience. Cannot wait. And

1426
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: the album is coming out, I guess in two days

1427
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: and you're doing us, and now that's going to be incredible,

1428
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: just like all the most exciting things.

1429
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. This has been

1430
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 3: so much fun. You can work and you can play.

1431
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: You can do it all and there you go. And

1432
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: it was actually writing this episode off on our taxes

1433
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: because it's vacation. We had every episode with the song

1434
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: was good tag. We're notarially off the books yet because

1435
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: we just got it, but it is the vibe Vibe