WEBVTT - One on One: Olivia Hack 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:17.520 I Am all In. Let's Kiss You, I Am all 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.360 In with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast Everybody. 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:23.960 Scott Patterson aim all on podcast We're Gonna Talk to 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:29.080 Olivia Hack, who portrayed Rory Gilmour's Yale sweet mate, Tanna Shrick. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.360 She first appeared in season four episode two, The Laurelize 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.440 First Day at Yale, and last appearance was season four 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:41.199 episode one, Last Week Fights, This Week Tights. Tanna is 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.680 one of Rory's three sweet mates during her freshman year 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:47.519 at Yale. She's somewhat socially awkward and not good at 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:51.800 conversing without topics prepared beforehand. She's an adopted child, and 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.440 she was a fifteen year old when she first started 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.160 it Yale. She also appears exceptionally bright, able to focus 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.160 a great deal and in rich detail on task, perhaps 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:07.840 a more mathematical and logical mind than social and emotional. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.400 She's born in Beverly Hills at a pretty young age. 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.000 You gotta start as an actress role as Captain mccard's 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.200 daughter and star Trek Generations followed up by Cindy Brady 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.880 in the first two films based in the nineteen sixties 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.000 sitcom The Brady Bunch, among other things. Let's bring her 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.440 in Olivia, Hack, Olivia. Hi, Hi, how's it going good? 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.119 How are you doing? I'm good, Thanks for coming on, 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:35.039 Thanks for having me. Where are you? I'm in Laguna Beach, baby, 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:41.000 Oh man, that's the place to be. I'm in a Nova, 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:45.240 Scotia shooting a TV series. Well that's not so bad either, 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.080 not not too bad. But I don't think it's going 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:52.080 to beach. But it's not too bad. Um, So how 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.040 are you doing. It's been it's been a long time. 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.040 I don't think I ever met you. I have no 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.720 We like cross paths briefly at that what do they 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:04.200 call it, Gilmore Girls fan fest or something? In Toronto? 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:09.000 And did that? Yeah, I was there, you know, I 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.120 did a I did a bunch of stuff one day 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:12.680 and I flew in and I flew out. It was 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.120 real fast, and yeah, I just I just remember it 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.280 was just a blurb the whole it was because it's 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.040 so funny because I tell people about it, because I 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.040 know they changed the location every year, and I'm like, 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.440 I can never remember where that actually was. So we 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.840 were in Toronto, Yes, it was in Unionville. They did 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.760 it in union Union where we shot where we shot 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:36.119 the pilot. Yeah, ok um, you joined season four as 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.120 Rory's Yale sweet mate ton of and you have been 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.480 watching the show? Had you been watching the show before? 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.960 I had, like I was the right age because I 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.240 think I was twenty when I did that, and so 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.800 I don't think I was completely caught up, but I 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.720 definitely seen like seasons one and two, So I was excited, 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:59.280 you know. Um, and uh, you know, did the audition, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.680 did all that stuff, and weirdly enough, like I had, 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.880 uh kind of dated Slash, been a roommate to a 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.320 guy who was on that show as an a D 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:15.040 as an assistant director and he had done Alias as well, 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.280 which was a show where you know, night shoots and 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.840 they blew stuff up and he would come home and 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.880 have way worse hours on Gilmore Girls than he than 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.560 he did, you know, on this action show. Um, so 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.400 I kind of knew what I was getting into in 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.280 terms of of that, you know, but it had really 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.600 no idea, right right, Well, tell us about the audition process, 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.720 you know. I don't, I can't, I don't know. I mean, 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.080 I I remember it just being an audition like any 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.600 other you know, you're an actor in l A. You 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.600 go to two auditions a day and and hope one 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.600 hits and that one did right, so you know, you 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.160 go in a room and they laugh or they don't laugh, 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:56.880 and it means nothing, you know, um, and then I 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.720 got it. But but yeah, so that was kind of that. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:04.840 So you you portrayed a fifteen year old she was fifteen. 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.160 How old were you when you were filming? Yeah, fifteen 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.280 or sixteen. I was twenty, And that was like the 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:17.800 source of so much drama. So basically, I I did 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.120 my first day, you know, I was feeling good about it. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.640 I went home and a few days later I got 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.559 a call at like six o'clock at night and they said, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.200 how quick can you get to Warner Brothers. We want 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.760 to do a wardrobe test. And I lived right around 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.479 the corner from Warner Brothers at the time, and I said, 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:36.880 I can get I can get there, you know. So 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.839 so I got there and and they went, oh, we 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.200 didn't like how you looked in that first episode. You 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:46.440 look too old next to Alexis. Now Alexis in that scene, 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.480 and Alexis and I talked about this later. They had 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.119 put her in this like French brain that she never 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.680 wore again, but it made her look incredibly young, Like, 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:56.479 standing next to me, we look at the same age. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.920 So they dressed me up and they did that thing 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.919 where they kind of cut you out in front of 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.560 ten people and and they're all looking at you, but 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.279 not at you in the eye. You know, you're just 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.280 like a piece of meat, your circus animal, and they're 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.360 staring at you. And they put you another outfit, and 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:12.520 so they went, okay, yeah, this is this is the 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.040 outfit we like, this is how we're going to do it. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:15.600 They put my hair up and they said, okay, now, 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.239 let's shoot it. And I went It's like eight o'clock 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:19.960 at night at this point, right, I didn't know I 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.160 was gonna shoot anything that day. I'd already shot the 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.760 damn scene. And I went shoot it and they go, yeah, 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.800 we're gonna reshoot all your your first your first scene, 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:34.440 all right now. I went, oh, so okay. So I 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.880 go in there and and I go, what about this 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.479 this first scene where I'm kind of walking in this 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.080 room where there was a ton of extras and a 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:44.760 ton of stuff going on. They go, oh, we're just 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.360 gonna leave that. So if you watch that first scene 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:53.520 when I before I enter the room, I'm in a 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.440 group of people dressed totally different with totally different hair, 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.040 and they just kind of let that slide and then 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.560 I walk in whatever, and so I shoot this scene 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:05.240 and Alexis and Lauren they've already been there all day long, 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.680 so they kind of shot their establishing group stuff and 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:11.520 then left. So I did all my stuff with some 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:17.359 stand in and and weirdly enough, I I love that scene. 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.240 I love how it turned out. But I think it's 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.600 probably you know, she was chaotic and nervous and all 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.400 that stuff I hadn't probably just resonated from me because 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:31.600 that's exactly what I was feeling, like, what is going on? Yeah? Wow, Yeah, 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.320 well yeah, sometimes that happens. Yeah, you know that. That's 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.280 that's TV production right there in a nutshell. You gotta 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:42.839 you gotta be you gotta be very nimble. Um uh yeah, 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.080 it just happened to me. Actually, it just happened to me. Yes, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.280 we they called me on an off day. I did 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.360 a big emotional scene and they just wanted to get 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.880 a close up of me that they forgot to get 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:56.680 and I had to go back in and we didn't 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.160 have to redo it, but it was like, God, how 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.040 am I supposed to do this again? Because you on 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.719 that mindset no no, no, no no no no, once you, 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.360 once you, once you get off that highway, you're gone, man, 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:11.800 just like I can't revisit that the next day emotionally speaking, right, 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:16.840 with no warning preparation, right exactly? I know. Well anyway, so, 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:22.119 um uh, you started booking roles at a very young age, 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:23.880 and what made you want to get into acting in 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.800 the first place. You know, I'm not going to sit 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.120 here and lie to you and say it was like 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.240 an active choice because I started at like three, so 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.800 I was. I grew up in l A, right, and 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.640 so when you're a kid in l A, you're precocious, 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.760 you're cute enough, whatever, they go, Oh, let's stick you 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.880 in some commercials, right. Um. So it just kind of 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.560 started like that, as it does for all kids. We 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.720 all kind of starting commercials and then it just went 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:51.120 from there. So it wasn't like a mom I want 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.480 to be on TV thing. Um, but I also didn't 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.480 not want to be what not want to be doing 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.800 it once I started, So you know, it was always 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.040 an option to quit right right, right, which is good 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.040 because some trial. Actors don't have that option. No, they 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:10.160 do not. So you were in eight episodes when you 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.520 got the role, did they tell you how many episodes 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.240 you would be in. No. I think it was just 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:21.680 kind of a Rory's Roommate at Yale thing, right, Um, 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.680 so yeah, I just kept They just kept doing episodes, 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.240 and then in the for the finale, I think it 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.120 was like the second to last episode of the series, 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.760 they brought me and Katie Walter, who played Janet, who 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.920 I talked to her she wants to be on the show. Um, 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:42.280 oh Katie, sure, um. But they brought us both back 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.360 and they didn't ask me, like nobody asked my age. 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.640 And it's been a few years, like if I look different, 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.440 And at the time, I had cut off all my hair. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.120 I had this like pixie cut. It was like bleach blonde. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.000 And I showed up on set and I just the 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:02.360 collective like face drop where they were just like oh no, um, 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.440 And so they cut it all out. They cut out 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.600 all of our stuff, and Katie was like, this is 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.040 your fault, this is on you, you know. But we 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.360 shot it, but it just never it never made it. 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.839 And I think it's because I just looked completely different. Um, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:18.959 what do you think of working with Alexis? What? How 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:23.600 did you like it? She's great. I mean I think Alexis, um, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.440 you know, I don't know her personally, but like she's 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:31.199 very at least with me, and we got along well. Um, 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.760 you know, she's shy and reserved, and I think she 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:38.040 kind of was, Um, you know, I've been doing the 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.079 doing the actor dance for twenty years at that point, 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.280 and uh, you know, she kind of got plucked out 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:47.839 of college and rust yeah, and rust into that, and 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.920 so I think it was all just an adjustment, you know. Um. 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.599 I do remember her driving like the most beat to 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.440 car and just really kind of loving that. I was like, Oh, 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.120 you're on like season four of you know and or 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.400 TV show and you're driving this old like sedan and 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.760 and I don't know. I always think it's cool when 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.880 actors are a little low key like that. Lauren Alexis 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.839 share that they both were sort of car challenged. I 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.800 had to give Lauren a pep talk. It's like, like, 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:19.360 you know, you're projecting an image here and not not 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.640 Alexis's car. I don't remember her car. I do, I 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.679 do remember the collection of cars. Lauren had and they 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.040 just weren't up to snuff and I had to I 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:28.560 had to sit her down and talk to her. That's 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:35.480 nice of you. Yeah, good, Look at how Scott. I 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.880 think I got it with a deduction argument. You know 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:49.160 it deduction if you lease it, there's a lot of dialogue, 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.480 even in your first scene. How do you approach memorizing everything? 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.959 Wasn't it was a nightmare? I mean so. I it's 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:00.160 funny because after Gilmore Girls, I kind of segued into 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.680 primarily voice acting. And one of the wonderful things about 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.559 voice acting I always say, it's like you don't have 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:10.439 to memorize lines, right um, And Gilmore Girls was so 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.160 and I don't know if I don't know if they 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.760 just did if they did this a series regulars too. 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.959 I imagine they did, but maybe you were handled with 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.760 kid gloves. But they were so word perfect with it, 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:26.160 and you know, you'd get these big chunks of of dialogue. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.920 And I do remember someone at one point going, because 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.360 you know, Gilmore Girls has that certain kind of like 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.240 it has its own little patois and it's really fast 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.080 and this, and someone was like, that's editing, so don't worry. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:41.120 So much about that, but it they really wanted it 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.200 were perfect. So I remember doing a scene once and 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.160 they came back and they were like, that was all great, 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.800 but don't change it is too it's you know and 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.480 usually m No'll give you that sort of you know, leniency. 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.520 And there was one scene talk about how they would 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.079 change scheduling and stuff, and I had this real big monologu, 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.640 which is crazy because I it's the Scott. It is 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.400 the only thing to this day that I still remember, 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:11.040 like word perfect um. And I showed up and I 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.440 had it. I'd like memorized. It was like a medical jargon. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.040 And I was like ready, it was I was game. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.280 And then they went, oh it's ten am. Yeah, we've 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.200 moved this to like six pm. So I sat around 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.120 all day and by the time I got around to it, 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:32.400 it was gone. It was just term memory. Yes, And 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.839 I mean I've done a lot of TV, I've done movies, 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.800 I've done stuff. And it was one of two times 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.079 that I in my career that I ever just lost 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.079 something to the point where they came up and they 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.920 were like, would you like cue car, which is to 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:52.679 me like the biggest It's an the more you can't 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:57.600 get it. The more you're right out of your mind, 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:02.760 like so, yeah, so are you Scott? You're ready? This 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.480 is Are you ready? His father was instrumental in conducting 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.520 research showing that neurons in the brain fire actively during 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.960 rem sleep with the exception of serotonin and report effort. 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.160 To this day, I can remember it perfectly because I 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:21.040 was like so shamed in my head by it. You know, 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:25.320 it was awful to this day. Um, but yeah, it 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.560 was just it was yeah, it was hard. It wasn't tough. 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.920 I can't lie. I mean Gilmore girls was tough, like 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:38.560 they you know, have a vision and and obviously it 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.160 was correct and right and that's why the show is 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:46.000 everlasting and all that. Um, but you know, wasn't it 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:50.200 wasn't George Bell available to you? He was. He was 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.640 the one. He's like now now see the line is 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:58.200 instrument and conduct so remember that's like music and you 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.280 can I mean, I like remember his notes he was 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.560 giving me during this monologue and like no, so George Bow, 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.439 Yeah it was the dialogue coach. But didn't he come 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.600 to your trailer and just run it and run it? 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.120 I mean even at six pm when you were going 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.559 to do it. Didn't he come and run it and 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.360 run and run it with it. I thought I had it. 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.360 I thought I had it right because I had it 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.240 that morning. I didn't know by the until I got 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.800 to set that it was gone, just gone. You know what. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.240 That dialogue was tough. I don't care. You're right it was. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.320 It doesn't matter how prepared you were. It was still 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:33.000 challenging to execute. It really was. Yeah, And just the 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.080 fact that it had to be like to the to 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:40.600 the letter right is a whole other sort of exageration. Yeah, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:45.640 it was hard for you to um sometimes not, I 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.640 mean after I don't know, the first couple of episodes, 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.720 it was just kind of there that you developed that muscle, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.080 and I think we all did simultaneously, and it just 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:59.280 got easier and easier because and we we started getting jaded, 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.120 started playing games with ourselves about how much time it 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.200 would take to memorize it before we went and did it. 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.280 It's like, cut it really close before the scene. Did 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.320 they change it a lot before as it was going on, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.560 or like, did did they kind of release the script 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.120 and that it was kind of done. We didn't get 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:22.920 scripts until sometimes, you know, not even twenty four hours 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.000 before you get it at your house kind of coming 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.080 in the next thing that was, but they were they 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.680 were always perfecting it. Amy and her team were always 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.400 and and Dan they were always perfecting it. You're always 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.120 we got listen, we got pages. I think on the 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.440 very first episode we did, which was after shooting a pilot, 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.520 we started up and Warner Brothers and Laura and I 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.760 were sitting in six AM five third Dame in the 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.840 makeup trailer and it was we hadn't even shot anything yet, 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.680 and they threw a ten page scene at us. They've 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.920 just written We're gonna do this. We panicked, we worked 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.600 on it, we did it, and after that we had 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.080 the confidence like, Okay, we can handle this, we can 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.480 do this. Yeah. Well, especially you guys were such a 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.640 good team together, which matters, you know with dialogue. But 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.720 it's but it's doing it right. You got to do 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.400 it over and over and over again, and we had 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.200 we kind of had that confidence. So confidence has allowed 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.960 to do with it. And it's totally just a muscle memory. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:13.960 Like even being a voice actor now when I do 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.920 sometimes have to memorize lines, it's like, oh, it's just 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.760 not as crispy and easy as it once was. And 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.760 you didn't start out as an actor, right, weren't you 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.880 like you were like a baseball player, right I was. Yeah, 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:31.760 so I didn't have to memorize anything, just some hand signals, right, 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:40.280 I didn't even get those? Right. Um, the fans recognize 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:44.960 you from you know, yes, occasionally it's so weird. I mean, 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.320 I am it's the voice, isn't it well? And I've 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.320 aged like fine wine if I do have to say so, 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:54.160 so I'm just kidding you have no but so I 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:58.080 don't look too far off, you know. And yeah, well 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.440 also too, I think because the show is so this 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.120 literally happened to me last week. I had an interview 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.679 with somebody and they said, oh, before we start, I 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.440 just have to tell you my fourteen year old daughter 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.840 is a big Gilmore Girls fan. So I've I've seen 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.960 you in that, and so it's I get recognized because 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:19.080 the show is everlasting, right like it's still like as 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.840 you know, like there's a whole group of you know, 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.080 ten to sixteen year old girls who love it and 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.720 are rediscovering it all over again, which always kind of 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.920 blows my mind because to me, the show and the writing, 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.320 which is so sharp, and the jokes are all very topical, 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.120 so I feel like some of that stuff must go 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.879 over their heads. But there's an everlasting I don't know. 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.720 I think it's it's very rare that that mother daughter 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.840 dynamic is seen on TV and isn't really represented all 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.160 that much, So that in itself is unique and has 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:57.840 I think staying power as well. You know, Um, you 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.399 do a lot of voice of work, from Hey Arnold 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:04.479 to Bratt's Last Airbender more. Do you prefer that kind 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:11.000 of acting over any other. I feel very fortunate with 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.199 my voiceover career because, like I said, I don't have 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:16.960 to memorize lines, there's no blocking, there's no Um. I 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.520 get to go to comic cons, which I enjoy immensely. 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:24.800 Um Yeah, I got there. I literally booked into like 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.760 August of next year. Yeah. So you're doing You're doing 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:32.640 the Galaxy cons you Yeah? Every were you? Were you 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:37.679 at Raleigh Darham? No? I almost. Yeah, I'm doing all 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.840 these Fanboy Expo ones right now. And yeah, it's a 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:47.200 whole it's a whole circuit. So that's great. I love it. Yeah, 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.199 And I'm on a I mean, I do a lot 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.879 of cartoons, but there was a cartoon that during the pandemic. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.000 I did called Avatar Last Airbender that blew up, that 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.880 was fifteen years old and blew up. And so it's 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.800 immensely popular are right now and it's affording me to 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.280 be able to I love travel, so to travel and 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.320 meet everybody, and and you know, you meet a lot 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:11.760 of people who are disenfranchised and don't always belong and 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.040 you get to meet them on their best day, right, 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.440 and everyone's having a good time, and you hear how 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.320 your work has touched people, and it's like I didn't 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.280 write this stuff. You did write this stuff, but it 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.399 means so but they act like you did, right, and 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.760 it means so much to them, and it's a privilege. 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.840 So yeah, I just feel I feel so lucky. So 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.520 I'll see you on the circuit. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.679 on that circuit. You know, I'm going to Germany and 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:42.640 December for Lucky that for that German German Comic Con 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.120 and dortmun Oh that's gonna be fun. Well December that's 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.760 gonna be freezing, right, But I mean I went. I 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.720 went a couple of Decembers to go to Berlin and 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:54.200 it was fantastic. Oh my god. So you, it's More 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:58.680 Girls big in Germany's it's kind of big everywhere. Everywhere 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.680 that's a lot, there's lines of people. It's it's amazing. 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.480 And you know, Gilmore Girls is not what you mean 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.040 what you do with the Last Airbender and and the 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.760 rats and the voiceover stuff that's big At comic cons, 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:15.439 I mean, they love it, they love it, but Gilmore Girls, 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.480 the promoters are like, I don't get it. You know, 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.640 it's not really our thing. We don't book people like that. 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:23.080 But the fans come out they do, and it's the 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.280 last con I was at like two weekends ago in Orlando. 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.160 I had a woman come over and she said, uh, 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.359 she said what because the only thing I really have 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.280 at my table that's on camera that I signed is 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.399 Cindy Brady. I was in the Brady Bunch with so 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:37.960 I have. I have like one eight by ten of 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:39.920 that and the rest of the animation. And she came 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.720 over and she said, what else have you done like this? 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.120 And she pointed to the Brady Bunch, like with your face? 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.440 What else have you done with your face? And I said, 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.320 I don't know. I said Gilmore Girls, and she went, 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:54.440 that's it. That's it. Okay, um, but I have people 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:55.919 come up all the time and they go, where's the 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.720 eight by tens of Gilmore girls design? And I go, 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.400 I don't have any. But it's a it's a thing, 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:06.000 you know, it's a thing. It lives. Sean and I 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.600 do cons together. We do our panels together. And the 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.119 places that standing room only. I mean they the fans 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.240 come out. They love it. And they're not necessarily convention people, 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.960 but they love it. They just come out and they say, hello, Yeah, 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:23.840 it's fantastic. Um uh yeah. So Brady Bunch, So you 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:27.640 worked with Deborah Kaplan? Was she on set? Yeah? Because 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.520 I did a movie in ninety four called Little Big League. 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.480 Oh I remember a Little Big She was an assistant 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.600 to the director and scheinman, and she was talking about 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:41.600 Brady Bunch deals she was making and this kind of thing. 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:46.120 So and she turned out to be this fantastic comedy writer. Yeah, fantastic, 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:47.840 And she has a partner, I know that. So you 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.920 worked with her, worked with her, and yeah, that script 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:54.280 is so it really set the kind of tone for 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.479 a lot of like fish out of Water comedies later on, 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.760 you know. Um so yeah, I mean they did a 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:05.240 fantastic job at that And yeah, that movie is fun 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:07.400