1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Radio Welcome Together, Everything So Down Down. Happy Birthday, America. Yes, indeed, 3 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: as we celebrate our independence today, as we celebrate our 4 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: birth as a nation, to day that kick started a 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: revolution to gain our sovereignty, let's admit that this last 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: year's trip around the sun was also another head scratcher. Um. 7 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Let's also remember that we are babies, you know, as 8 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: a country, we're basically going through puberty in comparison to 9 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: other countries timeline. Um, and we're gonna go through growing pains. 10 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: We are going through growing pains. This is not an 11 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: excuse to say, this is just a reality, and this 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: is good because we gotta keep learning, we gotta keep maturing, 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: we gotta keep striving, we gotta keep climbing, we gotta 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: keep building, and we gotta make sure we maintain hope 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: along the way as we continue to evolve. Why because 16 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: it's who we are. Why because the alternative sucks. I 17 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: believe that America and you and I I believe we're 18 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: in aspiration, all right. We're constantly in motion. We're on 19 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: the way trying to get wiser, trying to get braver, 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: trying to dream more, trying to do more, trying to 21 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: to be more fair, take the right kind of responsibilities 22 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: to gain the right kind of freedoms, And we gotta 23 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: keep realizing that we're a place where our individual pursuits 24 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: and desires need to be appreciative and supportive of our 25 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: collective responsibilities as Americans, hence the United States of America. Sure, 26 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: we're each unique, we're each independent, we each have innate 27 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: abilities that others don't have as people in the States. 28 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: But at the same time, we are all in this together. 29 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: And if you don't purchase that, move on somewhere else. 30 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: So as we celebrate the red, white, and Blue this weekend, 31 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: let's take a little bit, a little bit of inventory 32 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: and where we've come from, where we are um and 33 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: how and where we want to go from here on 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: the way to be in the best we can be. Now, 35 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: what if that was a song that each of us 36 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: what just said I can't sing? We sing the song 37 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: so we can sing it a little bit better. How 38 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: does it go to be the best we can be? 39 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: Let's make that a song we can't not sing. We're 40 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: on the way to be the best that we can be. 41 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: To make that a song that we just have to 42 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: sing rock America Happy. But I mean, let's rock America 43 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: the best country ever, Rock America all right together? Probably 44 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: not because we've got so many guns. Guns. This brings 45 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: up a lot of different things. Matthew McConaughey seems to 46 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: be doing the thing that a lot of people love 47 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: to do, which is transpose advice that's broadly good for 48 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: individual human beings to a nation where it's like, yeah, 49 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: people sure go through growing pains. You know, the younger 50 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: you are, the more dumb and even cruel things you're 51 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: going to do. And that doesn't necessarily make you a 52 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: bad person, because life is a growing experience. That's less 53 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: that's less meaningful when you're not talking about like just 54 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: like a person, and you're talking about a country with 55 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: the power to end all of life on earth with 56 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: the press of a button and the power to make 57 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: the plan an uninhabitable for the human species over the 58 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: course of decades via an economic system that it largely 59 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: drives on a global scale. Um, yeah, it's not. It's not. 60 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: It's not. It's naive. Also, Matthew, you don't want to 61 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: be governor. You want to be a ted talker, you know, 62 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: you want to make big philosophically, you don't know anything 63 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: about how to achieve what you're just talking about, because 64 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: I know, for example, or leave, he says, or where 65 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: would we leave? Where would you go? Talking about? Well, right, 66 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: that's also like, that's not going on here. If you 67 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: don't like your like what's going on in your country 68 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: and what I say about your country, you should get 69 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: out of here. It's not like a winning uh statement, 70 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: I guess from a politician. He seems like this is 71 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: clearly he's a desired politician now, uh, and what if 72 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: I disagree with him and I don't want to leave? 73 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: But also like it's it's it's fascinating to me because 74 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: it is a whole lot of words that say nothing, um, 75 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: what he's talking about. And like I I broadly I'm like, 76 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: he's right that we are like a puberty country. It's 77 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: a lot of countries we're we're we're older than Germany, um, 78 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: currently a broadly more reasonable place than this. But also 79 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: if we're talking about growing pains, they had some pretty 80 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: bad growing pains. Yeah, kind of effectively the entire household 81 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: style growing pains. I guess you could say slavery was 82 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: our grow. I don't know, a lot of his people 83 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: aren't countries. I just think he's really relying on his 84 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: oscar uh in this speech, like he could see him 85 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: pulling out his actor tricks, like I'm gonna he's a 86 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: he's a very good actor. He's an inherently charismatic guy. 87 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: It's hard not to like him when he does pretty 88 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: much anything, because he's Matthew McConaughey. It's a job to 89 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: be like you guys. Visually though, the like zoomed in 90 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: camera angle that talking with its great, Like the only thing, 91 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: the only thing would make it better is if he 92 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: was eating fast food in his car. Yeah, aren't get bourbon. Yeah, 93 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: So my main issue is that what did he say, 94 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: which is nothing? Um fine, it's well, yeah, like what 95 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: he's but what he's doing, and it is he's very 96 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: skilled politician, already very good because he's saying like, you know, 97 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: oh yeah, what what a wild year it was, you know, 98 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: really real head scratcher. You know, we're going through gowing pains, 99 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: We're going through this, we're going through that. We've got 100 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: to come together. He never said what those growing pains were, 101 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: what he thinks about them, what he thinks are the 102 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: problem with them? What he wants to do about it, 103 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: or what the collective action is. Uh, it's just these 104 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: sort of like lofty like I like the idea of 105 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: America is this okay, what happened last year? What was 106 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: the problem with it? What are the pains going on? 107 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: What are the fights about? What is your opinion on them? Um, 108 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: he's just sort of playing to the we got a 109 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: unite but but like better know it's perfect, but like 110 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: but like better than Greg Abbott. Well it's interesting because 111 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: he's doing this. He's walking the line right now, which 112 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: is because he's saying like, uh, you know, we're all individuals. 113 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: We've got these you know, it's an individual nation, but 114 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: also we have collective responsibility. And that's gonna like make 115 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: a lot of like conservative heads explode. Like everyone's very 116 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: excited about Matthew McConaughey running. Uh, They're like, yeah, like 117 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: finally we got like a guy. Um. But once he 118 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: says we have a collective responsibility, that that's Marxism to them, 119 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: that's uh, that's comy ship um. And but although again 120 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: he he didn't say rep um. I didn't look at 121 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: the response because I was just Sophie just shared this 122 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: video and I was like, that's fun. Uh So, I 123 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: don't know the response, but I know that that's the 124 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: response when anyone talks about any sort of collective responsibility 125 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: or action. That's comy stuff. America is about the individual 126 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: and freedom in the marketplace of individuality and freedom. Uh so, 127 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: uh it's you know, we'll see how how well he 128 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: tells that line. We'll see what he means when he 129 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: actually says anything about Matthew McConaughey getting into politics, which yeah, 130 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: it looks like he's going for. Is that like the 131 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: American flag in the background, Come on, Its completely meaningless? 132 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Is everything in that video was? He would be objectively 133 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: the best governor we've had. I don't know since like 134 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: a Richards like politics such a fucking disaster, and our 135 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: last handful of governors have been such unrepentant, violent sociopaths 136 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: that like, yeah, fuck Matthew McConaughey, have him talk about 137 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: freedom and opportunity. You know, what he probably won't do 138 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: is encouraged Texans to kill people they disagree with. I 139 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: don't think he'll do that, And that's something enthusiastically urge 140 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: murder um so um. In terms of old business. I 141 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: have something to bring up as well that I think 142 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: had a couple of things. One thing is I found 143 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: the Wicki feet page for Ava brown Um and like, yeah, 144 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: they found it exists, and of course you look for it. 145 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: It's incredible because the photos they've picked are like they're 146 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: from videos. I think they're they're colorized videos. I don't 147 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: think they're originally shot in color, but like vacation videos 148 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: that she took a beach and stuff, and they're so 149 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: normal they look like they I mean, other than the 150 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: fact that the resolutions a little off, they could have 151 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: been filmed by like any woman, any white lady in 152 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: her twenties today, like every like everyone, Yeah this some 153 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: clear shots of her feet. Sick fucks all of you 154 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: sick fus Are you just fucking masturba she spent the 155 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: early forties, fucking man who is responsible for seventy something 156 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: million deaths, who voted ugly on three stars. I would 157 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: masturbate to her feet, but not a lot. Everybody listening 158 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: to this in your cars, pull over google her Wicky feet. 159 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: It's incredible. This is an audio media, but I think 160 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: that this transcends once again Katie is ranked higher on 161 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: wiki feeds. So yes, Katie, Katie has higher higher ranking 162 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: on Wiki feet than the lady who literally fucked Hitler. 163 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: This is an honor. You've turned my day right around. 164 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: We're not. I do want to read out because there's 165 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: eighties seven total votes from incredible human beings who decided 166 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: Eva Brown is a Wiki feet page and I must 167 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: vote upon it. Twenty two said beautiful, twelve said nice, 168 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: said okay, six said bad, and three said ugly. And 169 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: I have to say, I think those people are voting 170 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: her feet ugly just because she fucked Hitler. Because her 171 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: feet are fine. Yeah, the median one is very reasonable, 172 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: especially given the bluriness of the photos. But I think 173 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: people are being unfair to her feet just because she 174 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: had sex with the man who orchestrated the Holocaust. I 175 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: think people are unfair to her feet. Feet are ugly 176 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: in general. Yes, there's a lot of things wrong with 177 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: this Judge, judge, judge, or by her rotten soul, not 178 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: by her bunny. And yeah, don't don't blame her soul 179 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: on her souls. Yeah, oh, rend it man. We're twelve 180 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: minutes into this episode and easily our best episode. Ever, 181 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: I have one last piece of business to break. I 182 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: have one addendum to this just please company. And now 183 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm reading the user comments. One person, really honest just 184 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: says hard to rate. That person is the Walter Cronkite 185 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: of our era, delving into the Eva brown Wicki Feet 186 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: controversy and saying it's a tough one. Guys, It's real. 187 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: It's a real hard one. Head scratch, nice color shot 188 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: of her toes. Wonder if a h was into showing 189 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: them some TLC. I don't wonder that, but you know, 190 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: it takes all kinds us. It's just the most psychopathic thing. 191 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: That's Texas Governor level of psychopath Um. I follow up 192 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: maybe that all caps omg. EVA has a page here. 193 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: Uh cupid heart, Cupid heartcupid heart, No, no, no, no, amazing. 194 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: My favorite is it's just hard to rate, really, matter 195 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: of fact, just to rate is extremely funny. Thank you 196 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: for that, adendam, honorable Robert. What was your other The 197 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: more of a theory about a way that we could 198 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: improve society. So I think we should be talking about 199 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: these things too. So I was having a conversation with 200 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: my partner recently. We were talking about bathrooms, particularly the 201 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: fact that some men's rooms and like shitty bars in particular, 202 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: have like a trough instead of a single urinal right, 203 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: And she was like, why don't we just have a 204 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: trough around the outside of a of a bar so 205 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: that everyone can be while they're drinking and not waste 206 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: time what that could be spent drinking And this evolved 207 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: into a discussion of a way to reform society so 208 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: that everyone is always wearing a hose system around their 209 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: groin and there's just a series of holes built into 210 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: the world around us that you plug the hose into 211 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: and it sucks all of the urin out, and that 212 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: could be we could rebuild society around that, and people 213 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: could have just like a big industrial like a six 214 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: inch wide gauge hose, like a telescope tube hose. Yeah, 215 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: public um dump spots, much like like built into banks, 216 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: and like our electric charging stations. Yeah, like an electric 217 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: charging station. I will say that part of the joy 218 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: of a bathroom experience for me when I go out 219 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: um is to escape the people I'm with for a 220 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Yes, but you could you could just 221 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: say I'm gonna go find a hole to plug the tub. 222 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: I gotta go. I gotta go find a tube hole. 223 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: It sounds smelling. You don't have a lot of faith 224 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: in our ability. Can we somehow, you know, build solid 225 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: infrastructure around the country that's clean and efficient? Can we 226 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: cutter fact Cody? Yes, I think my only addition to 227 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: this proposal would be to add a feature to your car. 228 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, like um, an emergency fuel system. Somehow we 229 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: could make your filled cars. We could make I mean, 230 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: theoretically hydro electric power is there's a lot of potential 231 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: that's untapped. Couldn't we power our cities with urine? Why not? Yeah? 232 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean I think we could. Katie, I think I 233 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: think you can run. Yeah. Um, but you just have 234 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: an idea. You don't really know. I'm this up because 235 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about climate change, and I think this could 236 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: be one of the solutions. Is and and also there's 237 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: so many new fashion implications. If everyone always has a 238 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: giant hose wrapped around their legs for that, they can 239 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: like unplug you know, it's it's yeah, it's it's I mean, 240 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: it's good. Look, I could get messy. I'm not sure 241 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: it's the chicest choice. But can I just say that 242 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: people don't wash their hands enough already. Yeah, but you 243 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to wash your hands if you're just plugging 244 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: a hose into a Yes, but that's sterile. So you 245 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: wash your hands after you get dressed every morning because 246 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: you have to deal what you're dealing with the tubes 247 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: and stuff. You never attempt to take off. You can 248 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: never take the thing or is it just like it's 249 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: such a comfortable garment. It's so comfortable you wouldn't you 250 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to take it off? Why why would you? 251 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: Why would you start having pants with a third tiny 252 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: leg for a tiny leg for the hose? Um, we 253 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: almost have to take an ad BRAINK. We haven't talked 254 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: about we are going to you know, we talked about 255 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: climate change a lot last week. Um, and you know what, 256 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that we're going to start talking 257 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: about climate change a lot of weeks. And I'm fine 258 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: with that. If this becomes a climate change focus podcast, 259 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: I'll be fine with that because it's very important. Yeah, 260 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: and what we can fix all of our problems with 261 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: with p tubes? Yes, all right, speaking of large amounts 262 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: of urine, Joe Biden's popularity is that lower than it's 263 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: high water Mark, but maybe not. It's a gonna talk 264 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: about Poland right now. No, No, it actually yeah, no, 265 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: it's it's most it's pretty partisan, that said most sources. 266 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: It's not really changed much since he took office. There's 267 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: been so um we wanted to kind of analyze. You know, 268 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: we have our own our own bubble here and the 269 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: three of us disagree on things, but we're all pretty 270 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: much in accordance that Joe Biden. Yeah, it's useful to 271 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: kind of like, okay, but how to like how to 272 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: like regular people like hows like the like just folks. Yeah, 273 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: what is in general? How is he doing in the 274 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: eyes of people? Um? And it seems like broadly speaking, fine. Um. 275 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: I found some analyzes of like the most recent dozen 276 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: or so presidents and he's kind of in the middle 277 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: of the pack. Um, he's doing better than like four 278 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: recent presidents were, uh, and worse than eight or nine 279 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: recent presidents were. Um, which is like yeah again and 280 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: again when I say recent, we're still talking about guys 281 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: like thirty four years ago. So obviously like it was 282 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: easy because to get higher highs um. Yeah, at the 283 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six day point in their presidencies, he's 284 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: beating Donald Trump, Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton, and by a 285 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: narrow margin George W. Bush, which is meaningful because two 286 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: of those were one term presidents and two of those 287 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: were two term presidents. The other nine polling era presidents 288 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 1: are all beating him. Um, but what's how would they 289 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: have done if they've been around with Twitter? Yeah? Because 290 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: the and this is this, this particular analysis I found 291 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: was on Bloomberg. Other people have reported on the same 292 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: basic idea. But um, every previous president besides Trump either 293 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: started their presidency above six approval or had spiked to 294 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: that point to that level at some point by now. Um, 295 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: and they all had a much larger range of variants 296 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: in the polls than we've seen. Like Ronald Reagan by 297 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: this point in his presidency had experienced a seventeen percent 298 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: jump in popularity and a ten percent drop, and Biden 299 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: hasn't experienced anything close to either of those. Um, when 300 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: we talk about this, it's I think it's important. I mean, 301 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: just the nature of the world is so different in 302 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: our country, and I increasingly don't see how we break 303 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: out of this pretty pretty consistent divide Stacistically. Yeah, this 304 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: head scratcher of a year Um, it's just we're so entrenched. 305 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: We're so entrenched in our Yeah. I mean, that's one 306 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: of the big lessons. There was this you talk about. 307 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: Democrats would talk a lot about like if before the election, 308 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: like if Biden gets in, you know, we're gonna have 309 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: this big blue wave and it's going to lead to 310 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: this era of good feelings where Americans because Trump was 311 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: so bad, everyone's so gonna be so grateful to have 312 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: an adult back in office, and we're gonna we're gonna 313 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like this wing in nineties again or whatever. 314 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: I don't know it's going to be in or the 315 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: fifty whatever, it's gonna be like Americans are all going 316 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: to get back on the same page. And obviously that 317 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: was never had any chance of happening. Um. But I 318 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: think part of why I don't think we'll never see 319 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: a sea shift in politics. I don't think we're stuck 320 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: at this kind of like fifty two forty six or 321 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: whatever kind of divide um. What's actually more like fifty 322 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: one fifty two to like two like that. That that's 323 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: kind of where Um has the aggregate of all the 324 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 1: polls right now Biden uh support against which is hasn't 325 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: has changed, has narrowed somewhat against Biden's favor since he 326 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: took office, but also has narrowed by a small enough 327 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: margin that it could be within the margin of air, 328 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: like it's possible his his Literally, there's been no change, 329 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: and it's just like pulling funk nous um. But you 330 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: know what has changed a lot in a positive way. 331 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: Raytheon's internal documents on critical race theory Raytheon Raytheon has 332 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time thinking about critical race theory, Katie, 333 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing about Raytheon. They care. They care 334 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: about making sure their employees feel valued, and they care 335 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: about making sure that they get the maximum blast radius 336 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: out of a two point four kilogram hexagen charge when 337 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: it detonates in the middle of a yet many school bus. 338 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: Ray Beyond just cares, and that's what makes them so exceptional. 339 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: So that they can help defund the police. Ray what 340 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: defund the police because every money that goes towards a 341 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: cop isn't going to one of our new oxygen powered 342 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: hell fire missiles. Defund the police, increase the military. That's 343 00:21:45,680 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: their stance. Um, we'll be right back together everything. We're 344 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: back when I finished talking about polling before we move on, 345 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: because I'm just yeah, uh, trying to get trying to 346 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: get a handle on things. So um, one of the 347 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: things that's kind of interesting about or like, broadly speaking, 348 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: a significant majority of Americans think he's done a pretty 349 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: good job on the coronavirus, like looks like to be 350 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: around like in the sixty percent range, and even um, 351 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: a sizeable chunk like a third of Republicans agree with that. 352 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: One of the things that's interesting about that to me 353 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: is that his actual support among Republicans is much lower. 354 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: It's about eight percent, which does say that like about 355 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: a third of Republicans are And when I say this, 356 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Biden has actually done a particularly 357 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: good job on the coronavirus, not saying like that's not 358 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: the point of making It does suggest that a decent 359 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: chunk of Republicans are willing to be uh like, aren't 360 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: haven't drank the whole Democrats are literally communists trying to 361 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: murder us kool aid um, which I found optimistic but 362 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: is also pessimistic because it shows that I don't know, 363 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot more Republicans maybe came it's something, but it's 364 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: not good. It's not good. It's complex because there are 365 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how many of the Republicans who don't 366 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: support his coronavirus handling the actually have reasonable cases. Again, 367 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: because there's very reasonable criticisms of his handling of coronavirus, 368 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: including opening schools too early, like lack of caution about variants, 369 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: like there's a bunch of things you can you can 370 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: go after him on. Um. So, I don't know how 371 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: many Republicans are like, well, I don't approve of his 372 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: handling of the coronavirus because of these very real flaws 373 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: with it as opposed to have any I don't approve 374 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: of his handle of the coronavirus because he's trying to 375 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: put chips in my children because yeahband it with China 376 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: to get Bauchi a bunch of money or something. So 377 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: that does that does kind of make it difficult to 378 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: take more of a lesson out of that. Um. Yes, No, 379 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't have much to add. I was debating whether 380 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: they're adding that it is problematic this divide right now 381 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: in terms of our vaccinations, you know, we're not fully 382 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: vaccinating about half of the country's is not a percentage 383 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: of that plans to at some point, um, but a 384 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: large junk of that are not going to. And uh, 385 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: we don't don't talk about the delta variant, but it 386 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: about the lambda variant. Yeah, any variant. But it's it's hard, 387 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: it's it's this weird mix of trying that to like 388 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: fearmonger about the variants, because by god, at this point, 389 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: freaking out about them isn't gonna help anybody. But also 390 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: like I don't know what nobody really does, like because 391 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: viruses can mutate in a variety of ways so well, 392 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: and it is scary that they're continuing to mutate and 393 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: that we won't get a handle on it. That because 394 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: people won't get vaccinated. You know, I think that the 395 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: majority of our listeners are fully vaccinated at this point. 396 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: I think you don't have to be afraid or your 397 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: own life. Um. There are lots of cases of people 398 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: getting it even though they're vaccinated, but they get it mildly. Um, 399 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: not lots, but I've heard any currently of several from friends, UM, 400 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: but they don't get it hard. But but the thing 401 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: that the missing pieces is you're probably not um spreading 402 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: it widely if you are vaccinated and you get it 403 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: and you don't know, but it's potential. And the people 404 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: that are most affected, of course, are those that are unvaccinated. 405 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: But also let's think about our hospitals, especially in regions 406 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: where there's such a high percentage of people that are unvaccinated. 407 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: This is a continuing nightmare that then goes on to 408 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: affect everybody else's access to healthcare. So small tangent um 409 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: for me to say, as everybody's weighing their own personal 410 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: decisions in your own communities about whether to wear masks, okay, sorry, 411 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: yep um, And it's like you know, um, I don't 412 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: know what to say about like the like so much 413 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: of our polarization problem. Is this the ship we were 414 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: talking about last time, right, It's it's in a lot 415 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: of ways our most fundamental failure of infrastructure, the the 416 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: the worst infrastructure problem we have isn't bridges, that isn't power, 417 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: It isn't um electricity. It's failures of of mental infrastructure. 418 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: It's failures to adequately educate people to make good decisions 419 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: to avoid being influenced by fucking conmon and grifters, and 420 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: its failures too um prepare people to make the kind 421 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: of decisions that citizens in a democratic society need to 422 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: be able to make with with a reasonable amount of competence. 423 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: If we're going to continue to have a democratic society 424 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't slide into authoritarianism and UM, the vaccine issue 425 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: should be the least controversial thing, like in a in 426 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: a healthy, unhealthy democracy, we would all be on the 427 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: same page about vaccines, would be screaming at each other 428 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: about the gold standard of Benghazi or whatever. UM. But 429 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: but we're we're not even We're not even as health 430 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: as we were during two thousand twelve when we were 431 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: screaming at each other over Benghazi and whether or not 432 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: Barack Obama had a valid birth certificate UM, which doesn't 433 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: bode well. But I don't know. I don't want to 434 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to lay in on that too much. 435 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: In terms of other things that there's that were polar 436 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: that we're not polarized about. UM. Vast majority of Americans 437 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: about is strong majorities approve of biden Is handling of 438 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: the coronavirus, disapprove of his handling of the border, and 439 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: that does seem to be for very split reasons right 440 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:38,959 Speaker 1: across the board. The border is bad for Biden Okay, 441 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: got there, water bad, Biden better can't grow across the border. 442 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: A lot of desperate people anyways. Yeah, same. I don't 443 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: know if you're gonna get to this. There's a poll 444 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: about the views of Americans views on crime. Yeah, the 445 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: quote rise of crime. I feel like we're we'll talk 446 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: about this more in depth in the future. But one 447 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: I found it interesting is that Americans seeing crime as 448 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: a very serious problem in America is in an all 449 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: time uh so, like twenty year high. Um. That's not 450 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: to say that crime is at a twenty year high, 451 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: sure not, It's sure not. But the perception, the view 452 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: is that we're it's the concern is there, and maybe 453 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: the media has something to do with that, and they're 454 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: they're reporting over the past even just the past few weeks, 455 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: fueling it. Who knows. But uh, I found this interesting 456 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: because along with the poll was this little bit of information. 457 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: Seventy say that violent crime would be reduced by increasing 458 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: funding to build economic opportunities and poor communities. Now see 459 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: that's good news because it would be yeah, um, it's 460 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: uh and even say the same about using social workers 461 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: to help police. A few situations with people having emotional 462 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: problems um, again, we get to this. This is kind 463 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: of a similar issue with guns, where if you actually 464 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: look at a lot of the policies that would help, 465 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: people don't disagree about, but when it comes to the 466 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 1: way the issue is framed, yes, they do. Because when 467 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: it comes the way this issue is framed, it's not 468 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: crime has risen. People are very concerned about it, and 469 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: they support economic remedies and more social workers and communities. 470 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: It's crime has risen, let's give the cops more guns, 471 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: like because the people who are framing it that way 472 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: in the media are the people who have got everyone scared. 473 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: Even though while there's things to be concerned about. Anytime 474 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: you see violent crime rises the way it has in 475 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: a lot of of course, it's reasonable for people to 476 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: be concerned, not as concerned as they are because the 477 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: rise is not as bad as people think it is. 478 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: Because media has overhyped this to be some sort of 479 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: gigantic seventies style crime wave when it's not. It's just 480 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: not the viral video of the target. They want people 481 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: stealing from targets. People people want the easy thing of 482 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: treating the symptom, not the disease. It's not easy. You're 483 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: not treating the symptom by giving money to the police. 484 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: But they think it even indoctrinated to think that that's 485 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: the solution, and you're not thinking about the fact that 486 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't solve shit and that the problems are getting 487 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: worse because we're not doing anything about the problems. Of 488 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: wants that to be once cops to be the solution 489 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: because they're the extent of their research on it is 490 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: oh crime is ers and let's go on to write 491 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: along with a cop and film it because that will 492 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: make that will make good for the reason they just 493 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: print any police statement as like fact more or less 494 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: straphers for the police. Um. I we talk a lot 495 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: about how much a problem it is that like there's 496 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: no shared concept of reality. But like I most people 497 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: absolutely should hate the press. Um because nationwide they're not 498 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: good at their job. Um yeah, no, possibly failed, and 499 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: nationwide they're not on our side. It's great there are this, 500 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: I mean the reason this uh even this uh pole 501 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: got my radars because uh if you see it. Ted 502 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: Ted craz uh quote tweeted the post from ABC News 503 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: and his his little comment was, oh, but sure, we 504 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: gotta defund the police because the first tweet is just 505 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: in the number of Americans seeing crime is an extremely 506 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: serious problem the United States more than twenty year high. 507 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is underwater and trust to handle it according 508 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: to new poll. That's the tweet. Uh, there's no context 509 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: about like, by the way, it's not like the crime 510 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: isn't twenty year high or anything like that. It's just 511 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: the people. Um that's the first tweet. The follow up 512 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: tweet was about how se think that uh we should 513 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: actually like just like increase funding in communities, in poor communities, 514 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: uh and have social workers, uh deal with a lot 515 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: of these problems. Um So the framing of this by 516 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: the media allows weasels like Ted Cruz to quote tweet 517 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: this thing and say, see, but the Democrats want to 518 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: defund the police, even though the follow up tweet literally 519 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: has those measures as being extremely popular. Um So, I guess, yeah, 520 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm just I guess I'm just like frustratingly agreeing with you. 521 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: They suck. They're awful. Yeah, they're terrible at this, and 522 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: you know what it is on purpose, Like they've always 523 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: been terrible. And this is like the complexity when we 524 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: talk about like the issue of the death of truth. 525 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: We're not when I said, talk about the death of truth. 526 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the death of objective truth that has 527 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: remained unchanged. I' talking about the death of a widely 528 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: agreed upon standard of truth. Which doesn't mean people still 529 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: didn't buy into bullshit. It's just more people bought into 530 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: the same bullshit. Because you can read a lot about, 531 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: for example, the ways in which the CIA would manufacture 532 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: consent for US interventions in Latin America. Um, the ways 533 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: that like during all the press who were trying to 534 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: cover the invasion of Panama and just went with the military, 535 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: and the military didn't let them into the country and 536 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: made up reasons for their to be delays, so they 537 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: got in there late and they didn't get to see 538 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: any of the war crimes, and almost nobody realized what 539 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: had gone on. And you know, like or how you 540 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: know we would when we overthrew the government of Guatemala. 541 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: They were just you know, they had the CIA operat 542 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: guys like Dullus, had their pet journalists who they reached 543 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: out to to write the stories that made it look like, no, 544 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: this is a victory and the cause of liberty, and 545 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: most Americans are like, yeah, sure, whatever, Um, that's still 546 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: a problem. Was a problem that like people bought into 547 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: lies than into an extent, the fracturing of the concept 548 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: of truth is because more people have in realistic understanding 549 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: of what is actually happening. But it's still a problem 550 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: that are under the nationwider conception of reality is so divergent. 551 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: And that's kind of a lot to hold in your head, right, 552 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: both that it's a problem that truth is fractured and 553 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: that when truth was more unified, it made it very 554 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: easy for our government to get people on board with 555 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: horrific things. Both of those things are true at once. 556 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: And I don't have like a simple solution to how 557 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: to what. Yeah, like it's not a it's not a 558 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: simple issue. It's it's not as easy as if we 559 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: just had another Walter Cronkite, because Walter Cronkite was the 560 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: engine of a fair amount of disinformation himself. Yeah, we've 561 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: never done it good. No, it's never been good. Like 562 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: it's the same thing about like when we talk about 563 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: good governance, that's not a thing that's existed. Um, you 564 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: have had some countries and you still have some countries 565 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: in Europe who were very successful at extracting enough wealth 566 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: out of the rest of the world and continue to 567 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: be successful enough at that that they provide well to 568 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: the people who live within their borders. Like Canada um 569 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: reasonably good at that compared to the United States. But 570 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: you don't have good governance because I would argue good 571 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: governments governance means not exploiting huge numbers of people. But 572 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: I would accept that argument anyway. That people and let's roll. Yeah, yeah, goodness, 573 00:34:53,960 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: you're doing great. That checks out. Yeah. I I don't 574 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: know how we moved through this period of time. Maybe 575 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: it's with Matthew McConaughey platitudes, but I doubt it. It 576 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: would be funny if you just fixed everything, if that 577 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: was what did it just takes his shirt off and 578 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: starts talking about like carbon capture, just fucking his way 579 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: into like regenerating UH forests in order to trap more carbons. 580 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: Change the whole fucking system. Like every month, there's some 581 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: way that everybody that we vote on major legislation and 582 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: then our senators or I don't know, I don't know. 583 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: I want to have the opportunity to vote for Medicare 584 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: for all. It would be an infrastructure I want. I 585 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: want to say on that you know, you know, there's 586 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: elements of that system that I think would be better. 587 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: There's elements of that system that I think would be 588 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: worse because it's it's also the level of disinformation is 589 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: frightening when you consider what if you could freak out 590 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: enough Americans to like ban a vaccine because that week 591 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: the media cycle, Like, there's a lot of really uh 592 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: the way. That's why I I tend to like when 593 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: I talk about being an anarchist for me, because there's 594 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of things That means. It doesn't mean I 595 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: have like a system that I want people to adopt, 596 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: or I have a suggestion for the way it all 597 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: could work. It means that when I look at problems 598 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: in society, the solutions I tend to angle towards are 599 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: ones that devolve structures of power and hierarchy. Um because 600 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: I think much more often than not that tends to 601 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: make problems like better. And when you reduce the power 602 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: of organizations, the ability of organizations to exert power over individuals, 603 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: when you reduce the power the power of groups of 604 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: people to exert power, when you reduce the hierarchies that exist, 605 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: you reduce the places that like for example, sociopaths can 606 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: hide and exert damage. You can reduce the damage that 607 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: a group group of angry people can be convinced to 608 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: do by a media mogul. So that that tends to 609 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: be where I land in terms of like what is 610 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: going to get out of this? Get us out of this? 611 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: It's it's devolved power relations because I I'm willing to 612 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: admit that, like, yeah, maybe the solution will be there's 613 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: so there's there's a book Garrison I've been going through 614 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: for through for a new series we're talking about that 615 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: kind of goes over the broadly speaking, what are the 616 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: possible systems that could have developed that would that would 617 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: lead to action on climate change? And there's like kind 618 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: of they're not positive or negative, they're just different systems. 619 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: Depending on your attitude, they'd be better. One of them 620 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: is climate Leviathan is the term they use, which is 621 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: a massive kind of like a much more effective UN 622 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: style international organization based around kind of liberal attitudes towards 623 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: how do you fix this stuff gas taxes and like 624 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: restrictions on what people can do and like a very 625 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: top down we have to deal with these problems attitude. 626 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: There's kind of a more fascist style thing which is, 627 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: which is basically like, fuck fixing the problem, Let's hoard 628 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: resources for our block of people and screw everyone else. 629 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: Over there's a more. And yeah, there's a more. I 630 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: mean both both the Climate Leviathan and that our capitalist 631 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: but I like the name Climate Leviathan. Yeah, and and 632 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: it's it's the kind of thing where like some I'm 633 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: sure there's people listening to say, yeah, that's what we need. 634 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: I can't say that wouldn't work because nothing, no one 635 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: knows what's going to work. That one scares me, doesn't 636 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: scare me as much as kind of the more fascist thing. 637 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: And then there's like the one that what they call 638 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: climate MAU, which is this idea of like more based 639 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: around particularly like Asian style socialist mass movement kind of 640 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: responses to the problem of climate change that are are 641 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: extremely centralized, um but in a much less you know, 642 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: it's just kind of a different, different take on sort 643 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: of the Climate Leviathan style. And then you have I 644 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: can tell you right now, Climate MAO isn't going to 645 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: go over for most of the world. Well no, I mean, 646 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: but it it it's like this isn't what people would 647 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: call it. These are they're kind of trying to quit 648 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: category cheeky Robert Climate Leviathan is basically the idea of like, okay, 649 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: if if the response is largely organized by the United 650 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: States and Western kind of block nations, this is the 651 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: kind of thing they would probably try to do, based 652 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: on the current based on the way NATO works, based 653 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: on with the EU works climate MAO is kind of 654 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: assuming okay, if China is successful in getting a large 655 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: block of countries together, these are the ways in which, 656 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: based on the ways they're already approaching the problem of 657 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: climate change, this is the way they would probably try 658 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: to go for it. And then you know, there's the 659 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: option I think they call it Option X, which is 660 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: much more decentralized, um and much less and much more 661 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: based on kind of fundamentally changing the way we we 662 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: order our our society so that you can't have some 663 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: of these massive, overarching international structures that make the kind 664 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: of damage that we're doing to our climate possible. UM. 665 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to get into this 666 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: too much because I'm still trying to wrap my head 667 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,479 Speaker 1: around it. But a whole new show on this, Yeah, 668 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's who knows what's gonna fucking work 669 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: or what's going to get tried? But anyway, but I 670 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: know what's going to happened right now. It's another add 671 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: a break together everything. We're back. We are back. News 672 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: just dropped that North America has lost three billion birds 673 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: in fifty years. No, it's probably fine, perfect transition to 674 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: talking about some more of the climate change disasters we're 675 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: seeing bad bad news. Um yeah. Any who, the oceans 676 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:46,479 Speaker 1: on fire at times in the last few days. Yeah yeah. 677 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: This one's in Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. The fire began I 678 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: guess in an underwater pipeline that connects to um A 679 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: platform UH p x is KHU malub zapp oil development UM. 680 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: Apparently the fire was due to a gas pipeline rupture 681 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: um UH and was brought under control using water pumps 682 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: and hoses for about five hours. UM. This is fun. 683 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 1: Angel Carrizalez, who is the executive director of Mexico's Oil 684 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: Safety Regulatory Agency, said that the incident UH did not 685 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: generate any spill, but experts are saying, I don't know 686 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: about that. Well, they're saying, we're pretty sure there wasn't 687 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: a spill because it was all on so much fire 688 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: like they're saying that the best case scenarios that the 689 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: fire contains the oil from going too far. But like 690 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: the fact that the ocean is on fire means that 691 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: their ship in the ocean causing it to be on 692 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: fire that shouldn't be in the ocean. I mean, like 693 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: a flaming mo cocktail or whatever. But you've got to 694 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: give a shout out to the pr person who was like, wait, wait, wait, 695 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: it's not a spill because it all burned up up 696 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 1: its self. Closing loop. Yeah, this is from the CNN. 697 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Um. Simon George a professor of organic 698 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: geochemistry at McQuary University and sounds made up tell seen 699 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: it that for such a dramatic and sustained flame to 700 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: persist on the ocean, a continuous stream of natural gas 701 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: must have been making its way to the surface from 702 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: the leak. Um. So yeah, that's what's going on there. 703 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: I could have guessed that, I was the professor of 704 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: organic geochemistry, I could have guessed that too, Um. And 705 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: then there was I think, looking at the ocean fire, 706 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: you go, it probably got a lot of ship in 707 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: the ocean, didn't they. Yeah, that was my guess. All 708 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: I saw was the seemingly c g I video of 709 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: the portal. The hell like two things that don't belong together. 710 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: You know, Um, I'm I'm watching my hero academian fire 711 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: and you have fire and you've got water, and I think, 712 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, we need to think about the collective nature 713 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: of of nature itself. Fires in water, Yeah, I mean, 714 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: it's it is interesting. Some people have noted this that 715 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: like in the what it was, it was like the 716 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 1: sixties and seventies thing. It might start in the fifties, 717 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: but like the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland lit on fire 718 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: like so many times, Like that fucking river kept catching 719 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: on fire. It was like sometimes the fires would be 720 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: like the flames would be like five stories tall. Like 721 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: the river was very flammable. And it was a big 722 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: reason why the e p A was created because Americans 723 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: at that point, again talking about like a shared concept 724 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: of reality, We're all like, oh, it's pretty bad if 725 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: a river keeps catching on I we should probably do 726 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: something about this. We should look into this. But there's 727 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: also arguments that because of how effective the EPA was 728 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: cleaning at cleaning up kind of the cosmetic issues of 729 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: of of like littering and stuff. How they were able 730 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 1: to pretty things up and reduce the amount of obvious 731 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: like faccory. It actually contributed to us not notice or 732 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: to people being able to ignore climate change because there 733 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: was less flaming rivers. That's interesting and true. Yeah, Uh, 734 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 1: that river caught fire last year. Oh oh, Cleveland's back 735 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:42,720 Speaker 1: just like America. Joe Biden's doing it all right, burning 736 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: back better, burn bad. Someone needs to do like a 737 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland Chamber of conversation, but speaking about oil gas and 738 00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: our previous conversations about infrastructure, regular aation, et cetera. This 739 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: X on Mobile story, did you guys read about this? 740 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: This is fun? Just in case you guys don't know. Um, 741 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: Greenpeace Uh pretended uh to be interviewing lobbyists, I guess, 742 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: and got Keith McCoy, who is a senior X on 743 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: Mobile lobbyists unaffiliated with mobile. They got him on a 744 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: zoom interview meeting and recorded it, recorded him saying all 745 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: the quiet parts out loud about X on Mobile and 746 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: what they've been doing with climate change. Um and uh, 747 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: then they released it to Channel four News and I 748 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: just before we talk about it. It's just that was 749 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: so fucking easy and so fucking dumb. You got duped 750 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: so easily pieces done in a while that I thought 751 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: was pretty fucking based. The thing is. The thing is, though, 752 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: like it's wild and like I can't believe you said 753 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and they got it so easy. They 754 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of know that there are no consequences for their actions. 755 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there are long term consequences on the planet 756 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: in their future generations, but like in terms of them, 757 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter to them. There's no political will 758 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: to make any of them pay the price that they 759 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: are pay for this because specifically of what they say, 760 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: he says speaking, he lays it out, Okay, I mean 761 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: he specifically talks about you know how he they lobby Um, 762 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, have lobbied, lobbied against the change climate change 763 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: measures in Biden's infrastructure bill. Um you know how early 764 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: on they pushed back against climate change by using third parties. Um, 765 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, and and and how they you know, keep 766 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: senators in their pocket. This this right here, um? Is 767 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: it in a nutshell? Mr McCoy said, when you have 768 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to a member of Cross of Congress, 769 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 1: I liken it to fishing. Right, you know, you have 770 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: bait you throw that bait out and they say, oh, 771 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: you want to talk about infrastructure. Yeah, and then you 772 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: start to reel them in and you start to have 773 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: those conversations about federal leasing programs, you start to have 774 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: those conversations about carbon tax. You know, it's all these 775 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: opportunities that you use and to use the phishinging allergy again, 776 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: you kind of reel them in. I make sure I 777 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: get them the right information and they need so they 778 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: look good and then they help me out there a 779 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: captive audience. They know they need you and I need them. There. 780 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: It is there, it is. That's why nothing matters, That's 781 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 1: why I want change. Yeah, and it's it's it's awesome. 782 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: There's another great point in that. Uh, and I'm just 783 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna keep reading the quote. Mr McCoy appears to suggest 784 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: that Exon Mobiles book support for a carbon tax is 785 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: underpinned by the conviction then it will never happen, allowing 786 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,479 Speaker 1: the company to support it in order to appear green. 787 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: He said, I will tell you that there is not 788 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: an appetite for a carbon tax. It is a nonstarter. 789 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: Nobody is going to propose attacks on all Americans, and 790 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 1: the cynical side of me says, yeah, we kind of 791 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: know that, but it gives us a talking point. We 792 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: can say, well, what is x on mobile for? Well, 793 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: we're for a carbon tax. Yeah, it's a green its 794 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: screen x on commercials BP diversity, like all the should 795 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: they do so that they don't have to address things, 796 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,439 Speaker 1: And it's just wild to hear it's rad. I kept 797 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: thinking reading this article about I went on a little 798 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: bit of a a little bit of like a rabbit 799 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: hole this weekend reading about Tolken's views on Jared Tolkien, 800 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: like the Lord of the Rings case views on politics, 801 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 1: because he was like he identified as it self identified 802 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: as an aner Kyle token. Sorry, no, not not, I 803 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 1: don't even is that a real person? Okay, thank you. 804 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: But he talked a bit about there was there was 805 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: a line where he was in a letter he wrote 806 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: to his son where he was talking about like the 807 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: wonderful trend of people bombing factories and power stations and 808 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: saying like, I hope it continues, but I also hope 809 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: that it's seen by a majority of people as patriotic, 810 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: because if most people don't think it's rad, then it's 811 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: not going to work. Right. Most people have to agree, 812 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: like Yeah, it's fucking cool to blow up factories and 813 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 1: oil pipelines, and they don't right now, And it would 814 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: be rad if most people looked at somebody damaging oil 815 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: company infrastructure and went based. But instead they'll go no, 816 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,240 Speaker 1: that person should get a thirty five year terrorism enhancement 817 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: on their sentence and die in a cell because they 818 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: attempted to stop the environment from dying. Can I ask 819 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 1: a question, Yeah, what does based mean? It means like cool, 820 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: but in a sense of like it's ideologically sound as well. 821 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: It's used on all sides, but it means like not 822 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: just like not just like rad, but like rad in 823 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: a way that is good politics, I guess would be 824 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: like my my best way of describing it correct, it's no, Um, 825 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: it's honestly like it's it's like you're just so silly. 826 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: It's like an update. It's like it's kind of like 827 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: woke was years ago. Yes, Like it's just like oh 828 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: that where the way this was kind of stolen from fascists, Katie, 829 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 1: that's different place it started, but it first gained like 830 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,280 Speaker 1: real currency online among like the alt right and stuff. 831 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: But it's just a fun thing to say. So everybody 832 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: says based. Now it's like pilled. Yeah, yeah, I'll start 833 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: I'll start trying to use it. Yeah, I'm going to 834 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: work it in very effortlessly. Clearly, that's the based choice. 835 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 1: That's the base choice. It's based to use, always based 836 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: to use basse because a lot of anyway, whatever, that's 837 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: let's move on. So it's like it's like Melania says, 838 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: be based. Uh yeah, this is uh so frustrating and 839 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: like it's the kind of thing like you know, their 840 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: documents from Exxon decades ago, they knew about it, they 841 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 1: denied it. They did their own quote science, um to 842 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: disprove it. There's a quote another quote from this fucking guy. Um. 843 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: Did we aggressively fight against some of the science, Yes? 844 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: Did we hide our science absolutely not. Did we join 845 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 1: some of these shadow groups to work against some of 846 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: the early efforts, Yes, that's true. But there's nothing there's 847 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: nothing illegal about it, he says. It's a lot during 848 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,280 Speaker 1: the during the meeting. There's not illegal. There's nothing illegal 849 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: about it. Which maybe if you keep having to say that, 850 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: maybe that indicates that you're like morally like questionable, like 851 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: maybe like you feel like you're you're ethically doing something bad. 852 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: But you're justifying it because it's not illegal. Um and uh, 853 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 1: I just find it so interesting that not interesting. Just 854 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: like obvious, we all know that there's no political will 855 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,879 Speaker 1: to do these things. We all know that. Uh, they 856 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 1: do too, and they use it to their advantage a 857 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: big part of the reason. There's a big um. I 858 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: would like to give a shout out to our our boy, 859 00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion for making the list, making the top of 860 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,720 Speaker 1: the list of of folks in Congress that Mr McCoy 861 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,720 Speaker 1: cited as being very very helpful to x on mobile 862 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:13,320 Speaker 1: uh and their anti climate cinema cause along with cinema 863 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 1: of course. Um, but I believe was it. Yeah, cinema 864 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: your states on fire? Yeah, fuck you, Mr McCoy, funck 865 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: them all. I wanted to mention Mansion because McCoy described 866 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: him as the kingmaker speaks to his office on a 867 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:39,879 Speaker 1: weekly basis. I bet Joe Mansion masturbated when he heard that. Yeah, yeah, 868 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,800 Speaker 1: that's what it sounds like, right. Yeah. He wishes he 869 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 1: had one of those tube things so he could just 870 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: plug it into the Capitol Hill and it would suck 871 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: his go go to the go to the Tesla charging 872 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: point and just drop off your comb his come, which 873 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: is the consistency of you know that kind of like 874 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: spongey Ethiopian bread, really tasty stuff if you were to 875 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: joke that in buttermilk and then leave it out in 876 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: like park it in a black car in the sun 877 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,720 Speaker 1: during a heat wave and give it about eight hours 878 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 1: like yeasty, yeah, yeasty, but like yeah, yeah, very yeasty 879 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: and modeled and and but also like thick, like turgid, 880 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: like a turgid mass of come. That's Joe Man. I 881 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 1: can't believe the person I've become in the year and 882 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: a half of recording this show with you guys that 883 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: I don't even flinch at this. What I thought was 884 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 1: funny is when you said become Cody laughed and I 885 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 1: saw it. You can't do that, I can explain. Is 886 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 1: that in for us today? Is that the note we need. 887 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 1: Let's let's end on a happy note and talk about 888 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: Patriot Front showing up in Philly because every now and 889 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: then we get to get a nice story to write, 890 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: which is honey. So the is it is you are 891 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: eat income when you put honey in your in your tea, 892 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: and if you're a cop and you're getting your tea 893 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 1: from a restaurant. There's actual coming they put in there, 894 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 1: but also a come in your copy is the least 895 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: of your concerns. All right, Fascists embarrassed themselves. They just 896 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: can't stop. They love they love being won't stop. So 897 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: there's this group Patriot Front, which is like their Nazis. 898 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: There's they will The thing that they've started doing is 899 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 1: because Charlotte's feel some of these like especially some of 900 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: their like organizational folks were at seventeen unit rate in 901 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: Charlotte'sville and that didn't end well in the long run 902 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: for them. Um, but they want to keep doing stuff. 903 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: So they like they put the stickers all over the 904 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: place that are like not not stolen, conquered about like 905 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, indigenous lands and stuff. And though you know, 906 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: they try like try to try to pill Americans with 907 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: stuff that's very fashy but not not Nazi explicitly, like 908 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: that's kind of their thing. They're not gonna where's way 909 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: of swastika, but they're they're they're doing the same thing. 910 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 1: It's like like fashy like Western chauvinism kind of obfusiating, 911 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: like they're what they're saying harder in the fascism than 912 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: the Proud Boys, which is why they're not as as big. 913 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: But one of the things they've been doing lately is 914 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 1: they've been organizing these things that kind of seem like 915 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 1: flash administrations but aren't where the bus everyone that they 916 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: can get into a city and do like a march, 917 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 1: that they won't there won't be any pr ahead of time. 918 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 1: So suddenly just like a hundred of these dudes with 919 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 1: shields and banners and masks, all dressed the same, we'll 920 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 1: be marching through and sometimes they'll throw off smoke bombs 921 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: to make it look eerie, will like march through DC 922 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 1: or something. They decided to do that in Philly, and 923 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 1: none of them were from Philly as best as we 924 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: could tell. No Ladelphia famously, you know we're about Philadelphia. 925 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 1: When the Eagles won the Super Bowl, because it was 926 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: a chance that the Eagles would win. Prior to the 927 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: game concluding, the police put lube on all of the 928 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: light traffic lights and and like street lights and stuff 929 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,320 Speaker 1: in a huge chunk of the city. Because something that 930 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: Philadelphians do whenever a good or a bad thing happens 931 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: is just spontaneously take to the streets to tear down 932 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: all of the light bulbs. That's just how Philly likes 933 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 1: to play. It's in the bylaws. They got it, like 934 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 1: what we are. All of that was useless because within 935 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,800 Speaker 1: like an hour of the game ending, the cops had retreated. 936 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: They just left where the crowd was because like, there's 937 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 1: no controlling these people. There's nothing we can do to 938 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: handle this crowd, and people sure enough found a way 939 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 1: through sheer massive people to tear down a bunch of 940 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: light bulbs. Like that's what Philly does on a good 941 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: day when they're happy. I mean, that's a story of resilience. 942 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: A Philly got angry and like, but when I say Philly, 943 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: like four or five dudes, because this was a flash thing, right, 944 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 1: there was no time, right, It's not like yeah, like 945 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,720 Speaker 1: the city didn't descend on them. It was like five Philly. 946 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 1: It was just like four or five guys who happened 947 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: to be hanging out on July three and realized, like, 948 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: those guys are fucking Nazis and just started bumbling and 949 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 1: they broke and ran and ran back to the fucking 950 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,360 Speaker 1: writer truck that they were all driving in, and they 951 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: got caught by the cops because they were all illegally 952 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: writing in the back of a box truck, had to 953 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: like sit down on the ground and get photographed while 954 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: the cops like sited them. It was extremely funny, um, 955 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: very very funny. Nobody was arrested because no crimes were committed. 956 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: They were just like even the cops were like, it 957 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: kind of seems like you should have been in Philly. 958 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 1: Huh oh, that's a heartwarming tail God. I love Philly 959 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: great great, Probably will never go there again, but I 960 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate their their hutzpah. All right, guys, I hope 961 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: you enjoyed that light note and to this episode. I 962 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed the whole dang thing. You know, that's 963 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: what we're here for, especially talking about Joe Manion. You 964 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: know what, if you're an artist, you're a graphic designer, 965 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: right if you're if you're I don't know if Darian 966 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: Aronofski is listening film Joe Mansions Come, you know you 967 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: can make your own. We gave you the recipe. Yeah, yeah, 968 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 1: just make it make it happen people. It's like a 969 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: like a sour dough star like, Yeah, Cronenberg would be 970 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: the right guy to direct Joe Mansions Come. A ninety 971 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: minute movie, Russell back to Yeah, because he's the right 972 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: guy to confront such a monster. If there's one thing 973 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: I know about Kurt Will, he'd be willing to dive 974 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 1: into it and explode it from the inside. Yeah, Yeah, 975 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 1: he would. He's the only hero. He can save us 976 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 1: from that losing me alright, well, bye bye, so dumb everything, 977 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: So dumb man, It's not again. I tried. Daniel. Worst 978 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: Year Ever is a production of I Heart Radio. For 979 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 1: more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the I heart 980 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 981 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: favorite shows.