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Speaker 4: Did you like to meet the teacher day school?
Speaker 5: I remember those? Yeah, they were sometimes traumatic. Well that
Speaker 5: was before you got into trouble though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is you find out who's who's elementary school.
Speaker 7: I was the best kid. I loved my teachers. I
Speaker 7: knew them all. They are in the neighborhood, you know,
Speaker 7: with the church with him and all of that. Those
Speaker 7: are good times. Yeah, those are good times. Only only
Speaker 7: until the sixth grade.
Speaker 5: And then you got bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the things got bad.
Speaker 4: We got all new teachers this year.
Speaker 6: So wait a minute, I see it, all those people.
Speaker 4: You got your list in front of you right there.
Speaker 4: I do the coaching staff finalized, So we're going to
Speaker 4: talk about that over the course of the next half hour.
Speaker 4: I actually met a guy who might be the number
Speaker 4: one overall draft pick in this year's draft last night.
Speaker 4: And you know who that might be?
Speaker 5: At the Davy O'Brien Award.
Speaker 4: I tried at the Davy O'Brien Award, who do you
Speaker 4: think might be? And besides Travis Hunter, I don't know,
Speaker 4: it would be the first quarterback that's going to be
Speaker 4: taken in this draft, according to the so called.
Speaker 5: Airs out there.
Speaker 4: Kam Ward the Davy O'Brien Award winner, and I met
Speaker 4: him last night and he said.
Speaker 2: You will rule the day. When you don't draft.
Speaker 7: Rue the day, rule the day. Okay, so he's already
Speaker 7: throwing you know.
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting. I was going to talk about
Speaker 4: this later, but since you brought that up, one of
Speaker 4: the things I was wondering about him was just how
Speaker 4: much confidence he has, And based by that comment, he
Speaker 4: I was impressed with him. And he's on the surface,
Speaker 4: he looked like the humble guy, that kind of soft
Speaker 4: spoken whatever. But then you get to talking to him
Speaker 4: and you can see he's got that confidence about it
Speaker 4: and he's got that swag about him that I'm sure if.
Speaker 7: You're going to come out with that statement, you know,
Speaker 7: you must be feeling really good about yourself. And I'm
Speaker 7: not mad at him. Uh, it's the quarterbacks League. And
Speaker 7: if he gets with the right team.
Speaker 4: Are you familiar with his story where he came from?
Speaker 7: I know it's a all the way around about yeah,
Speaker 7: all the way overseas?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: Well, no, he wasn't.
Speaker 4: But no, Well if Washington State is.
Speaker 5: That, it's close to the scene.
Speaker 4: You know where not where incarnate Word is. You know
Speaker 4: where incarnate word is?
Speaker 2: Is that in the all right? So real quick?
Speaker 4: He's from Texas. He's from Texas, south of Houston. West
Speaker 4: Columbia played for the Columbia High School Roughnecks. They ran
Speaker 4: a basically a wing tee offense, and he was the
Speaker 4: cort baby, so he did not throw the football much
Speaker 4: at all. But he was a basketball star average, as
Speaker 4: he will quickly point out, the leading score in Columbia
Speaker 4: High school history. But he had one scholarship offer coming
Speaker 4: out of high school for football.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that is?
Speaker 6: Because he did.
Speaker 4: Buddy six three, I mean six two two and twenty
Speaker 4: three pounds even in high school, so good size. And
Speaker 4: but Eric Morris who's now the head coach at the
Speaker 4: University of North Texas, which the head coach at Incarnate Ward,
Speaker 4: and Incarnate Ward has the stadium, Gale and Tom Benson
Speaker 4: Stadium in San Antonio, seat six thousand. Very small school
Speaker 4: and then just moving on up and basically just relatively
Speaker 4: recently started their football program a couple of decades ago probably,
Speaker 4: but now it's gotten up to what they're playing at
Speaker 4: a higher level. But anyway, he went to one of
Speaker 4: their camps cam Ward did and impressed him. And then
Speaker 4: what really impressed Eric Morris was him on the basketball
Speaker 4: court and saw what kind of athlete he was. You know,
Speaker 4: he's got good footwork, and the spatial awareness that he
Speaker 4: has and stuff had that coordination. So so anyway, they
Speaker 4: offer him a scholarship. First year there, he won the
Speaker 4: Jerry Rice Award as the top FCS player in the country.
Speaker 4: Was there for two years and then Eric Morris got
Speaker 4: the job as offensive coordinator at Washington State and cam
Speaker 4: Ward went with him to Washington State. After one year there,
Speaker 4: Eric Morris got the head coaching job at North Texas.
Speaker 4: Camp said I'm not going.
Speaker 5: To North Texas, but he wound up transferring after another
Speaker 5: year there, up transferring to Miami and had one of
Speaker 5: the best seasons in Miami Hurricane's history.
Speaker 2: And here he is pleg.
Speaker 7: Move because would you stay at Washington State. I wouldn't
Speaker 7: if I were.
Speaker 4: Here, especially because the conference and the conference brother right,
Speaker 4: so they didn't even know who they were playing.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: And so he transfers to Miami and they went ten
Speaker 4: and three, and he set the record for FCS and
Speaker 4: FBS combined touchdown passes. And now here he is and
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of the so called experts
Speaker 4: have him ranked ahead of Shador Sanders and Jackson Dart
Speaker 4: is the number one quarterback on their board.
Speaker 5: And if you watch them play.
Speaker 2: It confirms believe I would believe that, yet now I heard.
Speaker 5: The only knock on him I've heard is he's one
Speaker 5: of those guys that will take chances like not sometimes
Speaker 5: high percentage. So he's kind of a hit and missed
Speaker 5: type guy sometime. But I'll tell you what. When I
Speaker 5: watched him play at Miami, it was one of those
Speaker 5: deals where I go, I want that.
Speaker 2: Right, right, but you know we're not signing that guy, right. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He passed for forty three hundred yards, thirty nine touchdowns,
Speaker 4: and seven interceptions at Miami this past season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's pretty darn good. And I think the
Speaker 5: only other guy, if it's not a quarterback, that's going
Speaker 5: to go first is the linebacker from Penn State. Okay,
Speaker 5: the next Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: Okay, And he literally looks just I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: I hadn't seen him out of his same number, same number,
Speaker 7: same results, same explosiveness, same everything.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Micah's career might help him in the draft. Well,
Speaker 5: he'll be a top five pick.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you're looking at Philly has two defensive
Speaker 7: linemen from Georgia.
Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, they got three.
Speaker 2: Actually, he was wrong with two Penn State linebackers.
Speaker 4: They got they got two defensive tackles from Georgia and
Speaker 4: then a rusher from Georgia. Golden Smith.
Speaker 5: Also, yeah, he won't last past five. He's he's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Uh so Davy O'Brien. That's two years in a row, right,
Speaker 5: But Daniel Daniels won it last year. Yeah, they're on
Speaker 5: a hot streak, which, by the way, and this might.
Speaker 4: Get should be it's a top quarterback in the country.
Speaker 5: It might get us back to the Cowboys. But I
Speaker 5: listened to so Colt McCoy, what was his deal at
Speaker 5: the Davy O'Brien.
Speaker 4: He was, I think he may have. Well, he's a
Speaker 4: past winner and a lot of a lot of the past.
Speaker 5: Was last year.
Speaker 4: Maybe, oh no, because White was probably a legend. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Mack Brown was the Legends Award winner. He was there
Speaker 4: last night and talked to him as well. But Colt
Speaker 4: was there just because he's a past winner of the
Speaker 4: Davy O'Brien Award, and probably because Mac got the Legends away.
Speaker 5: I heard an interview with him on the ticket. I
Speaker 5: didn't realize he made it fourteen years in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Fourteen years, Danny, No, No.
Speaker 4: This is cult.
Speaker 2: Quote yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: And so he was injured most of last year. Right,
Speaker 5: he had a no, it was an elbow thing, he said. Anyway,
Speaker 5: But he was on the.
Speaker 4: Cardinals the year before the year twenty twenty three season, right.
Speaker 5: And he he got to know Clayton Adams Okay Cowboys.
Speaker 5: He was the Arizona offensive line coach, and that's who
Speaker 5: the Cowboys hired as the quote unquote offensive coordinator. And
Speaker 5: he had nothing but great things to say about how
Speaker 5: this guy was able to coordinate the offensive line for
Speaker 5: the Cardinals. He said, you know, I didn't get to
Speaker 5: play much and I saw this guy operate and he said,
Speaker 5: he's a really good coach. So uh, and that's who
Speaker 5: the Cowboys hired as their OC So kind of he's
Speaker 5: taking the job Shottenneimer had last year assisting the head
Speaker 5: coach who is basically the offensive.
Speaker 7: I wonder how much weight he would have uh in
Speaker 7: the room during the draft when it comes to your
Speaker 7: offensive line.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 5: I like that a lot, because he has been an
Speaker 5: offensive line coach through As a matter of fact, he
Speaker 5: was a walk on offensive lineman at Boise State.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I hate them.
Speaker 5: And then he and then when he got to Statue,
Speaker 5: he got to eventually got to Colorado as a co
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, offensive line coach, was an assistant offensive line coach,
Speaker 5: and then tight ends coach with the Colts, and then
Speaker 5: the offensive line coach for two years with the Cardinals.
Speaker 4: You know, with he was with Mike mc McIntyre, who
Speaker 4: was a barber Cowboys assistant coach.
Speaker 7: So if he's feel in some kind of way doing
Speaker 7: the draft and he sees offensive lineman out there.
Speaker 2: Ought to listen to it as you listen to it well.
Speaker 4: And not only him, but also the new offensive line coach,
Speaker 4: Connor Riley, who is coming from the college ranks as
Speaker 4: well as he was at Kansas State coach Cooper Beebee
Speaker 4: at Kansas State and prior to that was at North
Speaker 4: Dakota State, which produced a number of NFL offensive linemen
Speaker 4: in this time there too. And the last the Cowboys
Speaker 4: are doing all right, They have done a good job.
Speaker 4: Now we'll see what happens.
Speaker 5: Yes they're here, but I think I like the hires
Speaker 5: that they have made.
Speaker 4: To try to shore up things in the run game.
Speaker 4: And as far as the offensive line.
Speaker 7: Is concerned, to me, that guy seems to be very
Speaker 7: important right now because I will run game. It needs
Speaker 7: to be up to par, not necessarily with the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 7: but it has to be better and it has to
Speaker 7: be an element that we can we can hang our
Speaker 7: hats on doing any game that we need to. We
Speaker 7: need to hang a hat on the run and hang
Speaker 7: our hats on a good defense.
Speaker 5: So they've got several guys on this staff now that
Speaker 5: have been coordinators at some point in their careers, either
Speaker 5: college NFL, and they're not coordinators here, but they've got
Speaker 5: that experience, and so I think that helps out. I
Speaker 5: was counting up they've got and I'm going to count
Speaker 5: Carlos Polk, who's been here before, but he's new this year.
Speaker 4: He's an assistant special teams coach.
Speaker 5: Fifteen first year coaches, not in their careers, but fifteen
Speaker 5: new coaches for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Fifteen new faces on the seat.
Speaker 5: And I've been told that there's a level of enthusiasm
Speaker 5: and excitement on that staff. And really they haven't done
Speaker 5: anything football yet, basically meetings and analyzing players getting ready
Speaker 5: for combine, right, but it sounded like there was a
Speaker 5: renewed enthusiasm on that coaching staff.
Speaker 7: Well, they all made an impact, a somewhat impact where
Speaker 7: they came from.
Speaker 2: To me, that gives me, you know, a little bit
Speaker 2: of optimism.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, to know that you can you've been
Speaker 7: very good at turning something around or showing something innovative.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll take those guys.
Speaker 5: But it looks like there's a huge investment on the
Speaker 5: offensive line. If you look at the coordinator, the offensive
Speaker 5: line coach, the guy that's the assistant offensive line coach,
Speaker 5: I would think, and if you look at Schottenheimer's history
Speaker 5: as an OC, he's had pretty good running offenses, So
Speaker 5: I think that that bodes well. And the other guy
Speaker 5: that is a former offensive coordinator and I know he's
Speaker 5: been let go twice, but Ken Dorsey, who is now
Speaker 5: the past game coordinator, I think he was the last
Speaker 5: tire they made, maybe yep. And he's a former awfully
Speaker 5: good quarterback at Miami and then he was he would
Speaker 5: ended up being the o C at Buffalo and then
Speaker 5: this last year at Cleveland. So they've got a lot
Speaker 5: of experience. Maybe not in the title they have, but
Speaker 5: elsewhere in football.
Speaker 7: Well, when you start talking about offense, that's starting with
Speaker 7: the offensive line, and so what about defense?
Speaker 5: And he changes, and he well, Matt Aberfluss head coached
Speaker 5: and the Bears. So now you got a former coordinator
Speaker 5: with the Colts, head coach with the Bears coming back
Speaker 5: with you as your defensive coordinator. So I think, you know,
Speaker 5: that's another one that's I think bodes well for having
Speaker 5: that kind of experience on the staff. He's this will
Speaker 5: be his He's got seventeen years of experience in the NFL.
Speaker 5: The linebackers coach who started here, Dave Borganzi, He's been
Speaker 5: in the league fifteen years. This one caught my eye.
Speaker 5: Andre Curtis, defensive pass game coordinator safeties, twenty years of
Speaker 5: NFL experience, and the defensive line coach, Aaron Whitecotton thirteen
Speaker 5: years in the NFL. So it wasn't like they're bringing
Speaker 5: in all these newbies, right. They have brought in some
Speaker 5: guys that have experience in the NFL.
Speaker 4: And several of those coaches have been with iberflus for
Speaker 4: a number of years, most recently at Chicago, and some
Speaker 4: of them go way back with him.
Speaker 5: Curtis was with him in Chicago.
Speaker 4: He was also on the staff as the past game
Speaker 4: coordinator in Seattle when schottenheimers. That was there, so there's
Speaker 4: a familiarity there.
Speaker 2: And what I remember.
Speaker 7: About Eberflus is how well his defense has always played
Speaker 7: and how he has always had playmaking defensive backs.
Speaker 5: Yeah in Chicago, right, and he was here first as
Speaker 5: the linebackers coach and had been a defensive coordinator in
Speaker 5: college at Missouri by the way. Oh so we'll hold
Speaker 5: it against him. He's had pretty good defenses, by the way.
Speaker 4: And not to mention so the special teams coach, Nick Sorenson,
Speaker 4: was the defensive coordinator for the forty nine ers last year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they they've got some you know, when you
Speaker 5: put together a staff, it's difficult. You don't have carte
Speaker 5: blanche treatment out there, right, I just get who I want.
Speaker 5: You find somebody you want, but are they available? And
Speaker 5: it doesn't always work out that way?
Speaker 2: So and will it fit? And they've got to fit.
Speaker 5: Right, And a lot of these guys came from college too,
Speaker 5: so you've got some guys that you know, kind of
Speaker 5: been in the college game also, so.
Speaker 7: New ideas like Jimmy Johnson right exactly.
Speaker 6: In fact, that crew did the research on it.
Speaker 4: The average age of this new coaching staff is forty
Speaker 4: one years old.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: Okay. And last year the average age was forty six
Speaker 4: years old. Okay, So on average five years younger. Okay,
Speaker 4: across that's across the board. I mean you're talking to
Speaker 4: twenty five man coaching staff basically, okay, As far as
Speaker 4: the coordinators are concerned, head coach and coordinators, the average
Speaker 4: age on this staff with Schottenheimer, eber Flus, Clayton Adams,
Speaker 4: Nick Sorenson is forty eight years old. And the average
Speaker 4: age last year with Mike McCarthy, Mike Zimmer, Schottenheimer and
Speaker 4: John Fossil was fifty seven years old. They're nine years younger.
Speaker 4: As far as the coordinators go, get this. You mentioned Jimmy, Okay.
Speaker 4: I went back and looked at because we talked about
Speaker 4: it a week ago. The young staff that Jimmy brought in.
Speaker 4: Of course, they had been together at Miami, most of
Speaker 4: those guys, Dave Wanstead, Butch Davis now and Tony.
Speaker 5: Wise, some of them at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I try in Oklahoma State also, the average age
Speaker 4: of that coaching staff was forty three and a half
Speaker 4: years old, okay, And this one's forty one years old.
Speaker 5: And it was only forty three because of dick. No,
Speaker 5: actually take that.
Speaker 6: I take that back, by the way, I didn't look
Speaker 6: at it.
Speaker 4: I didn't look at nineteen because there were some of
Speaker 4: the veteran guys that there was a right. Alan Lowry
Speaker 4: was another one that was still on the staff in
Speaker 4: eighty nine. It was a holdover.
Speaker 2: But I went and.
Speaker 4: Looked at the Super Bowl year nineteen ninety two, So
Speaker 4: this was not when these guys were hired. They had
Speaker 4: three or four three years experience in the league by then.
Speaker 4: The average age is forty three and a half. Guess
Speaker 4: what the average age of the Philadelphia Eagles coaching staff
Speaker 4: was last season twenty twenty four. Forty three and a
Speaker 4: half years old, the same average age as the Jimmy
Speaker 4: Johnson staff. So there's the sweet spot right there. You
Speaker 4: went your coaching staff out in their early forties.
Speaker 5: It helps when the head coach is not sixty years old.
Speaker 5: That's true, starting right.
Speaker 4: But he's only a counting one of those twenty five
Speaker 4: that's right.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. He kind of throws it off though, yeah,
Speaker 2: uh huh.
Speaker 4: But even the average age of the coordinators when Jimmy
Speaker 4: was coordinators and head coach, they were all late thirties
Speaker 4: early forties. I mean they've been orv you know who
Speaker 4: was in.
Speaker 2: That same he's the oldest.
Speaker 4: He's fifty four, fifty five years old. Yeah, and so
Speaker 4: he is now Schottenneimer's fifty one, and Sorenson's in his forties,
Speaker 4: and Adams is likewise, Yeah, because Adam's Adam forty two.
Speaker 4: He just turned forty two.
Speaker 5: Right, So but yeah, so yeah, it's a kind.
Speaker 4: Of a new and Sorenson's forty two.
Speaker 5: It's a new young, energetic I would imagine coaching Stone.
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Speaker 4: and Mickey's got a lot of numbers he wants to
Speaker 4: get to here because this is not only Meet the
Speaker 4: Teacher Day, yes, also another big day as far as
Speaker 4: NFL players are concerned. Free agents to be this Franchise
Speaker 4: Tag Day.
Speaker 5: Franchise Tag Day February eighteenth through March fourth, So any
Speaker 5: player that's headed towards unrestricted free agency, you could slap
Speaker 5: the franchise tag and with this transition too.
Speaker 4: So I'm listening to some national shows and they're talking
Speaker 4: about Michael Parsons and what the franchise tag is.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, they don't.
Speaker 4: He's on his fifth year option. He's not eligible for
Speaker 4: the French he's not a free agent. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I didn't know it, but they should know it. I
Speaker 2: didn't know it.
Speaker 4: And so this does not apply this year to Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4: And because he's on a fifth year option, which is
Speaker 4: around twenty.
Speaker 5: Three million dollars three twenty four million.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And the franchise tag for just looking at this
Speaker 5: year or going next year if you couldn't get a
Speaker 5: long term deal done with them linebackers twenty seven million.
Speaker 5: It has gone up dramatically.
Speaker 2: So if you can't get a deal done, if.
Speaker 5: He couldn't get an extension done before free agency in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty or even this year, yes, this year, everybody's like,
Speaker 5: well they got to get this done. Well yeah, but uh,
Speaker 5: he's going to count twenty four million either, you know
Speaker 5: for sure?
Speaker 2: So have you.
Speaker 4: I've got the history of it right here, you know,
Speaker 4: at a certain point, and I'm looking back when that
Speaker 4: point was. This is going back to twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: the year that Micah was drafted. Okay, you want if
Speaker 4: you played edge rusher, you wanted to be listed as
Speaker 4: a defensive end, right, not an outside linebacker. Because in
Speaker 4: this as an example, the franchise tag value in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty one for a defensive end was a sixteen million
Speaker 4: dollars salary for a linebacker it was fourteen point seven
Speaker 4: million dollars. And so I remember when when Micah came
Speaker 4: into the league, he wanted to be referred to as
Speaker 4: a defensive end.
Speaker 2: Didn't know was he aware?
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, oh yeah, Mike is aware of everything. Uh,
Speaker 4: and so but in the time that Micah has been
Speaker 4: in the league, things have shifted. In fact, the next year,
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two linebackers, the franchise tag was slightly
Speaker 4: more than a defensive end. And now it's gotten to
Speaker 4: the point, as Mickey just pointed out, where a linebacker,
Speaker 4: it's twenty five million dollars. That's the right number, and
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the right thing, right.
Speaker 5: So it's the franchise tag for this year linebackers. What
Speaker 5: I would you as twenty seven?
Speaker 4: Oh, twenty seven?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 4: Okay, So spow track does not have it updated. What
Speaker 4: does it have for defensive ends?
Speaker 5: Twenty four to seven?
Speaker 4: Okay, So here's what's happened.
Speaker 5: These pass rushers are playing in three four defenses and
Speaker 5: they're technically an outside linebacker in a three.
Speaker 6: Four, but they're pass rushers, that's right, And once they
Speaker 6: go to Nickel a defensive end.
Speaker 5: Right. But that's what's caused this explosion with the linebacker franchise.
Speaker 4: And I don't understand why they don't differentiate between an
Speaker 4: outside linebacker and an inside linebacker, right. You would never
Speaker 4: you would never tag an inside linebacker because the inside
Speaker 4: linebacker has the same tag number as an outside line right,
Speaker 4: which is, which is way more than what inside linebackers
Speaker 4: are getting paid.
Speaker 5: And what has happened on the offensive line because they
Speaker 5: just list offensive line. They don't put tackle, center, guard
Speaker 5: right they need because the guards aren't getting paid.
Speaker 7: You know, that's when they really point them out when
Speaker 7: it comes to getting paid.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, he's a guard now.
Speaker 5: But you're paying. But you're paying big bucks for the tackles. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and so that ups everybody else.
Speaker 4: What do you got for a running back?
Speaker 5: Running back? That's one of the first things I looked at.
Speaker 5: Thirteen point six million.
Speaker 7: Okay, So if you had if you were to predict
Speaker 7: who we were going to put on.
Speaker 5: Franchise if we have this year, Yes, who do you
Speaker 5: want franchised? Well, among here are there's twenty one unrestricted free.
Speaker 2: Ag Okay, give me names.
Speaker 12: Well i'll give you Okay, I'll give you one name,
Speaker 12: the one that everybody says they have to resign Osa
Speaker 12: Odiggie Zua. And they have defensive on the defensive defensive tackle.
Speaker 12: What do you have I've got for defensive tackle twenty
Speaker 12: three point four to six million franchise.
Speaker 4: And that is a hard cap number. It's one year,
Speaker 4: twenty three point whatever.
Speaker 5: That was Now, if it's somebody that you absolutely want
Speaker 5: to keep and you can't get signed to an extension
Speaker 5: before the March twelfth start of the new year, you
Speaker 5: can franchise them and it gives you until July Bituly
Speaker 5: sometime fifteenth to sign them to an extension as long
Speaker 5: as you've tagged him. And then if you can't sign
Speaker 5: him to extension, that guy can only sign him.
Speaker 4: And sometimes it's you tag him now because this window
Speaker 4: is open before free agency starts. You tag him now,
Speaker 4: and that get and then it gives you the early
Speaker 4: time a free agency leading up to it, you can
Speaker 4: still you're still working on a deal. Doesn't mean that
Speaker 4: he's going to play on a franchise. Tag This is
Speaker 4: just okay, we're securing your your servant, your rights, and
Speaker 4: so you're not hitting free agency, and it will make
Speaker 4: them okay. Sit down at the negotiating.
Speaker 5: Table, and the other guy that you know you'd love
Speaker 5: to have back you're probably not going to sign them
Speaker 5: to a big, long term deal would be Eric Kendricks.
Speaker 5: I mean, he only led you and tackles right now.
Speaker 4: The difference being, of course, he was a Mike Zimmer
Speaker 4: head of history with Mike Zimmer doesn't have the history
Speaker 4: with Ebert.
Speaker 5: Right and he and they only signed him on a
Speaker 5: one year deal for it was less than five million.
Speaker 5: The linebacker tag, like I just said, is twenty seven million,
Speaker 5: and that's probably not happened for a guy that's in
Speaker 5: his early thirty.
Speaker 4: The Kendrick Steel was much like what Philadelphia did with
Speaker 4: Zach Bond, right, same type deal, which is one year,
Speaker 4: three and a half million dollars.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that's about what they signed Kendrick.
Speaker 4: So go find another one like Parsons or Zach Bond
Speaker 4: and a half million.
Speaker 5: I hope you get lucky that.
Speaker 4: Has a history with Ebra Flus.
Speaker 2: So he has a history with a lot of good.
Speaker 5: So I'm going to tell you the unrestricted free agents.
Speaker 5: You tell me to stop when you want to franchise,
Speaker 5: that's okay.
Speaker 4: So I think you're gonna have a green light the
Speaker 4: whole way.
Speaker 6: Trey Lanson Hooper, rush.
Speaker 4: Right, the light is green.
Speaker 2: The light is still green.
Speaker 6: Brandon Cook, come on, guys, come on through.
Speaker 5: Tuma.
Speaker 2: He don't go.
Speaker 4: Oh there you go stop.
Speaker 5: Zach Martin. Uh, now we get into the defense. Chauncey Golston,
Speaker 5: Lynnville Joseph DeMarcus Lawrence, who, by the way, when I
Speaker 5: ran into him the other day, he said, he wants
Speaker 5: to play, and he's healthy or he's ready to basically
Speaker 5: run that he will be good to go.
Speaker 2: So he's on track.
Speaker 5: He's on track to play Osa. Carlos Watkins, Eric Kendricks,
Speaker 5: Nick Vigil, C J. Goodwin, Jordan Lewis, Israel mcwamou.
Speaker 4: He said stop, He said, stop Lewis, Now, what's your
Speaker 4: cornerback number?
Speaker 5: Cornerback twenty point three million guaranteed Nickel corner.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, so ever, what would you have paid if
Speaker 4: you were playing today at thirty years old? What please
Speaker 4: would you have put a stop sign on the franchise?
Speaker 2: Dadamn? Right, I'll take that franchise, dad. But this is
Speaker 2: speaking as a sixty five year.
Speaker 5: Old, right, because you know, you could think, okay, we're
Speaker 5: going to sign him to a twenty million franchise tag
Speaker 5: or offer it to retain his rights, right, and then
Speaker 5: start negotiating a long term deal. Well, he's got to
Speaker 5: be thirty by now, Jordan Lewis said, So you're not
Speaker 5: going to sign him to a five year deal, But
Speaker 5: whatever you sign him to has to total, like immediately,
Speaker 5: twenty million dollars. If you're an agent negotiating right between
Speaker 5: whatever the base salary is and the guarantees, it's got
Speaker 5: to be twenty million.
Speaker 4: Okay, can you you cannot have two franchise tag players, right,
Speaker 4: but from a salary cap standpoint, can you afford what
Speaker 4: is in essence to franchise tag players? Because you already
Speaker 4: have one this year in Micah Parsons who's playing on
Speaker 4: a fifth year option at twenty four million dollars, which
Speaker 4: is a hard cap number. The Cowboys are unless they
Speaker 4: got unless they had a long term deal done for Micah,
Speaker 4: they are out of the game. As far as franchise
Speaker 4: tagging another player, we think just went through the list.
Speaker 4: There's not a player on the list anyway. Now Osa
Speaker 4: would become the closest, but still.
Speaker 5: A young guy. You know you know that mind signed.
Speaker 4: Well the other one Rico Dudele for a running back
Speaker 4: thirteen million dollars whatever it is. Okay, that is doable,
Speaker 4: But you have to look at the market out there
Speaker 4: and what is available, not only in free agency, and
Speaker 4: it's not as good a year in free agency. See
Speaker 4: as far as running backs, it is a great year
Speaker 4: in the draft as far as running backs go, so.
Speaker 5: And saying you have to make that decision ahead of
Speaker 5: time because you've got to do the franchise tag by
Speaker 5: March fourth. The drafts not till April, and so that's
Speaker 5: why you want to know whatever what yah's out there
Speaker 5: and the chances of improving yourself in the draft at
Speaker 5: running back. And there's a great chance this team is
Speaker 5: going to improve itself at running back in the draft,
Speaker 5: because you can't sit there and say, well, I'm going
Speaker 5: to reserve his rights for whatever the franchise is. Well,
Speaker 5: if I'm that guy and I see the Cowboys salary cap,
Speaker 5: if they give me a franchise tag on the eighteenth,
Speaker 5: on the nineteenth, I'm signing it because then it's guaranteed,
Speaker 5: and then it's up to them to sign me to
Speaker 5: an extension.
Speaker 4: And then en Rico also has not gotten to the
Speaker 4: point and you got to look at what his age
Speaker 4: is right now, too, but he is not He's had
Speaker 4: basically a half season of accumulating multiple one hundred yard games.
Speaker 7: Do we see this as a good draft for offensive lineman?
Speaker 5: Yes, if the projections I see for the first round, it.
Speaker 7: There's no one in your I don't hear you about
Speaker 7: your green note book.
Speaker 4: Well that that's because we haven't had the combine yet.
Speaker 7: But you still you still know, you still know someone
Speaker 7: jumped the gun.
Speaker 2: The process. Yeah, it's a process. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And by the way, the combine is next week. I'll
Speaker 4: start getting putting some numbers with these players and then
Speaker 4: we'll have a better idea what's what's available. But I
Speaker 4: can to Now you just said offensive lineman in the
Speaker 4: first round. Okay, but what about this running back we're
Speaker 4: supposed to take in the first round, Ashton Gent, Then
Speaker 4: you're not taking an offensive lineman in the first round, right,
Speaker 4: So then offensive lineman drop off after that, right, and
Speaker 4: running backs are still there after that.
Speaker 5: When we the next show, because we don't have time now,
Speaker 5: we're going to go through the decisions the Cowboys have
Speaker 5: to make roster wise before the draft shows up, because
Speaker 5: that will dictate where they go.
Speaker 4: Well, ever, since will be interested in listening to that show?
Speaker 2: I will? Yeah, well I won't be here.
Speaker 7: But you know, we're getting down to the to the
Speaker 7: nuts and boats here to where this is when you
Speaker 7: start first.
Speaker 2: Picking your parts before you put the robot together.
Speaker 7: You know, and I want to see what that process
Speaker 7: is because this is the biggest offseason the.
Speaker 2: Cowboys have had in a long time.
Speaker 7: Guys, because you're looking at first of all, the NFC
Speaker 7: East is paramount.
Speaker 2: I mean, they are at the top of the NFL game.
Speaker 4: You would say the arrow is pointed up and we
Speaker 4: are our butts off.
Speaker 2: Okay, but they are no. We better be though.
Speaker 7: Yeah they are, but we better grab onto something because
Speaker 7: right now they're elevated. We don't want to be down
Speaker 7: there with the giants, man, we want to be up there,
Speaker 7: up with these two guys.
Speaker 4: That ship is sailing, is.
Speaker 7: Really sailing fast. They got the uh where, they have
Speaker 7: the sales up. They're ready to go. Man, wins at
Speaker 7: their back. We got to catch onme. We better grab something,
Speaker 7: and this is the off season to do it.
Speaker 2: We gotta do it this.
Speaker 5: Year, except they don't have a lot of salary.
Speaker 2: Capt I want to hear this bag se. I'm like
Speaker 2: them damn fans.
Speaker 4: Out there and there we're gonna talk about Anderson. They
Speaker 4: are due to have an injury plague season like the
Speaker 4: Cowboys had this year. This was the Cowboys injury plague season.
Speaker 4: Now and the next year it's a new ball game.
Speaker 5: Do you see how the thing in this town slides
Speaker 5: like what the Mavericks are going through. Now, Oh, the injuries.
Speaker 5: They got all these guys missing, and it's like the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: You talk about the injuries all week and then you
Speaker 5: lose and go, well.
Speaker 4: What the hell happened?
Speaker 2: Jerry? Fire the coach? What's wrong? Jerry?
Speaker 5: So I went back and counted up miss starts by
Speaker 5: starters or guys who they needed to start and got hurt.
Speaker 5: I got to one hundred, one hundred miss games by starters.
Speaker 2: But you didn't do the whole league, right.
Speaker 5: No, no.
Speaker 6: Else did. But one hundred sounds like a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially when you're talking about missing Pro Bowl guys
Speaker 5: from the season before.
Speaker 2: I got guys looking around the corner of us, like they.
Speaker 4: Got to get going here, Okay, we're going to get going.
Speaker 5: No, I'm looking at my camera. I can't see behind me.
Speaker 6: Okay, I have.
Speaker 2: No idea your job.
Speaker 6: And I still didn't get to tell my.
Speaker 5: Dick knowledge story. Remember about the shoulder?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, do it next time. Yeah, Okay, that
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