1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: This is Mick Shot streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 7 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 4: It is a Tuesday inside the SWBC podcast. Do you 8 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 4: go at the Star in Frisco? And this is one 9 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 4: of the biggest days of the year. Do you know why? 10 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 5: Tell me Bill, because this is Meet. 11 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 4: The Teacher Day Whoeverson has no idea what I'm talking 12 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 4: about either do any of you out there, But Mickey 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: knows exactly what I'm talking about. This is the day 14 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: we get to meet the new coaching staff of. 15 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 6: Your Dallas Cowboys. 16 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: Welcome to mix Shots brought to you by Miller. Like, 17 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 4: we got a late start here, but we are raring 18 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: to go for the next half hour to get you 19 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 4: up to speed on all that's going on with this team. 20 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: How we don't have much times bags. 21 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 5: Okay, go right, yep, let's go go. 22 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: Did you like to meet the teacher day school? 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 5: I remember those? Yeah, they were sometimes traumatic. Well that 24 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 5: was before you got into trouble though. 25 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, is you find out who's who's elementary school. 26 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 7: I was the best kid. I loved my teachers. I 27 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 7: knew them all. They are in the neighborhood, you know, 28 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 7: with the church with him and all of that. Those 29 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 7: are good times. Yeah, those are good times. Only only 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 7: until the sixth grade. 31 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 5: And then you got bad. 32 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well the things got bad. 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: We got all new teachers this year. 34 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 6: So wait a minute, I see it, all those people. 35 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: You got your list in front of you right there. 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 4: I do the coaching staff finalized, So we're going to 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 4: talk about that over the course of the next half hour. 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: I actually met a guy who might be the number 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: one overall draft pick in this year's draft last night. 40 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 4: And you know who that might be? 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 5: At the Davy O'Brien Award. 42 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: I tried at the Davy O'Brien Award, who do you 43 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 4: think might be? And besides Travis Hunter, I don't know, 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: it would be the first quarterback that's going to be 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 4: taken in this draft, according to the so called. 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 5: Airs out there. 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: Kam Ward the Davy O'Brien Award winner, and I met 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 4: him last night and he said. 49 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: You will rule the day. When you don't draft. 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 7: Rue the day, rule the day. Okay, so he's already 51 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 7: throwing you know. 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting. I was going to talk about 53 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: this later, but since you brought that up, one of 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 4: the things I was wondering about him was just how 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 4: much confidence he has, And based by that comment, he 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 4: I was impressed with him. And he's on the surface, 57 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: he looked like the humble guy, that kind of soft 58 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 4: spoken whatever. But then you get to talking to him 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: and you can see he's got that confidence about it 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 4: and he's got that swag about him that I'm sure if. 61 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 7: You're going to come out with that statement, you know, 62 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 7: you must be feeling really good about yourself. And I'm 63 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 7: not mad at him. Uh, it's the quarterbacks League. And 64 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 7: if he gets with the right team. 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: Are you familiar with his story where he came from? 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 7: I know it's a all the way around about yeah, 67 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 7: all the way overseas? 68 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: Right. 69 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 5: Well, no, he wasn't. 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: But no, Well if Washington State is. 71 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 5: That, it's close to the scene. 72 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: You know where not where incarnate Word is. You know 73 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: where incarnate word is? 74 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Is that in the all right? So real quick? 75 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 4: He's from Texas. He's from Texas, south of Houston. West 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: Columbia played for the Columbia High School Roughnecks. They ran 77 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: a basically a wing tee offense, and he was the 78 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: cort baby, so he did not throw the football much 79 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 4: at all. But he was a basketball star average, as 80 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: he will quickly point out, the leading score in Columbia 81 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: High school history. But he had one scholarship offer coming 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: out of high school for football. 83 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: Why do you think that is? 84 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 6: Because he did. 85 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 4: Buddy six three, I mean six two two and twenty 86 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: three pounds even in high school, so good size. And 87 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: but Eric Morris who's now the head coach at the 88 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: University of North Texas, which the head coach at Incarnate Ward, 89 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: and Incarnate Ward has the stadium, Gale and Tom Benson 90 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: Stadium in San Antonio, seat six thousand. Very small school 91 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 4: and then just moving on up and basically just relatively 92 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: recently started their football program a couple of decades ago probably, 93 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: but now it's gotten up to what they're playing at 94 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: a higher level. But anyway, he went to one of 95 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: their camps cam Ward did and impressed him. And then 96 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: what really impressed Eric Morris was him on the basketball 97 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 4: court and saw what kind of athlete he was. You know, 98 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: he's got good footwork, and the spatial awareness that he 99 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: has and stuff had that coordination. So so anyway, they 100 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: offer him a scholarship. First year there, he won the 101 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 4: Jerry Rice Award as the top FCS player in the country. 102 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: Was there for two years and then Eric Morris got 103 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 4: the job as offensive coordinator at Washington State and cam 104 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 4: Ward went with him to Washington State. After one year there, 105 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: Eric Morris got the head coaching job at North Texas. 106 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: Camp said I'm not going. 107 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 5: To North Texas, but he wound up transferring after another 108 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 5: year there, up transferring to Miami and had one of 109 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: the best seasons in Miami Hurricane's history. 110 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: And here he is pleg. 111 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 7: Move because would you stay at Washington State. I wouldn't 112 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 7: if I were. 113 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: Here, especially because the conference and the conference brother right, 114 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: so they didn't even know who they were playing. 115 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 5: Uh. 116 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 4: And so he transfers to Miami and they went ten 117 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: and three, and he set the record for FCS and 118 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 4: FBS combined touchdown passes. And now here he is and 119 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of the so called experts 120 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: have him ranked ahead of Shador Sanders and Jackson Dart 121 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 4: is the number one quarterback on their board. 122 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 5: And if you watch them play. 123 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: It confirms believe I would believe that, yet now I heard. 124 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 5: The only knock on him I've heard is he's one 125 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 5: of those guys that will take chances like not sometimes 126 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 5: high percentage. So he's kind of a hit and missed 127 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 5: type guy sometime. But I'll tell you what. When I 128 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: watched him play at Miami, it was one of those 129 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 5: deals where I go, I want that. 130 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: Right, right, but you know we're not signing that guy, right. Yeah. 131 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: He passed for forty three hundred yards, thirty nine touchdowns, 132 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: and seven interceptions at Miami this past season. 133 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's pretty darn good. And I think the 134 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 5: only other guy, if it's not a quarterback, that's going 135 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 5: to go first is the linebacker from Penn State. Okay, 136 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 5: the next Michael Parsons. 137 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: Okay, And he literally looks just I'm sorry. 138 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 7: I hadn't seen him out of his same number, same number, 139 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 7: same results, same explosiveness, same everything. 140 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: Yes. 141 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so Micah's career might help him in the draft. Well, 142 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 5: he'll be a top five pick. 143 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you're looking at Philly has two defensive 144 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 7: linemen from Georgia. 145 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, they got three. 146 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: Actually, he was wrong with two Penn State linebackers. 147 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: They got they got two defensive tackles from Georgia and 148 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: then a rusher from Georgia. Golden Smith. 149 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 5: Also, yeah, he won't last past five. He's he's really good. 150 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 151 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: Uh so Davy O'Brien. That's two years in a row, right, 152 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 5: But Daniel Daniels won it last year. Yeah, they're on 153 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 5: a hot streak, which, by the way, and this might. 154 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: Get should be it's a top quarterback in the country. 155 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 5: It might get us back to the Cowboys. But I 156 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 5: listened to so Colt McCoy, what was his deal at 157 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 5: the Davy O'Brien. 158 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 4: He was, I think he may have. Well, he's a 159 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 4: past winner and a lot of a lot of the past. 160 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: Was last year. 161 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 4: Maybe, oh no, because White was probably a legend. Yeah, 162 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: Mack Brown was the Legends Award winner. He was there 163 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 4: last night and talked to him as well. But Colt 164 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 4: was there just because he's a past winner of the 165 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: Davy O'Brien Award, and probably because Mac got the Legends away. 166 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 5: I heard an interview with him on the ticket. I 167 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 5: didn't realize he made it fourteen years in the NFL. 168 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 5: Fourteen years, Danny, No, No. 169 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: This is cult. 170 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: Quote yeah, yeah, yeah. 171 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 5: And so he was injured most of last year. Right, 172 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: he had a no, it was an elbow thing, he said. Anyway, 173 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 5: But he was on the. 174 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: Cardinals the year before the year twenty twenty three season, right. 175 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 5: And he he got to know Clayton Adams Okay Cowboys. 176 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: He was the Arizona offensive line coach, and that's who 177 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 5: the Cowboys hired as the quote unquote offensive coordinator. And 178 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: he had nothing but great things to say about how 179 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 5: this guy was able to coordinate the offensive line for 180 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 5: the Cardinals. He said, you know, I didn't get to 181 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 5: play much and I saw this guy operate and he said, 182 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 5: he's a really good coach. So uh, and that's who 183 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 5: the Cowboys hired as their OC So kind of he's 184 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 5: taking the job Shottenneimer had last year assisting the head 185 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 5: coach who is basically the offensive. 186 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 7: I wonder how much weight he would have uh in 187 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 7: the room during the draft when it comes to your 188 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 7: offensive line. 189 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: Oh. 190 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 5: I like that a lot, because he has been an 191 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 5: offensive line coach through As a matter of fact, he 192 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 5: was a walk on offensive lineman at Boise State. 193 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I hate them. 194 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 5: And then he and then when he got to Statue, 195 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 5: he got to eventually got to Colorado as a co 196 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, offensive line coach, was an assistant offensive line coach, 197 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 5: and then tight ends coach with the Colts, and then 198 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 5: the offensive line coach for two years with the Cardinals. 199 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: You know, with he was with Mike mc McIntyre, who 200 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 4: was a barber Cowboys assistant coach. 201 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 7: So if he's feel in some kind of way doing 202 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 7: the draft and he sees offensive lineman out there. 203 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: Ought to listen to it as you listen to it well. 204 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: And not only him, but also the new offensive line coach, 205 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: Connor Riley, who is coming from the college ranks as 206 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 4: well as he was at Kansas State coach Cooper Beebee 207 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 4: at Kansas State and prior to that was at North 208 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: Dakota State, which produced a number of NFL offensive linemen 209 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: in this time there too. And the last the Cowboys 210 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 4: are doing all right, They have done a good job. 211 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: Now we'll see what happens. 212 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 5: Yes they're here, but I think I like the hires 213 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 5: that they have made. 214 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: To try to shore up things in the run game. 215 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: And as far as the offensive line. 216 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 7: Is concerned, to me, that guy seems to be very 217 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 7: important right now because I will run game. It needs 218 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 7: to be up to par, not necessarily with the Philadelphia Eagles, 219 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 7: but it has to be better and it has to 220 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 7: be an element that we can we can hang our 221 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 7: hats on doing any game that we need to. We 222 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 7: need to hang a hat on the run and hang 223 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 7: our hats on a good defense. 224 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 5: So they've got several guys on this staff now that 225 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 5: have been coordinators at some point in their careers, either 226 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 5: college NFL, and they're not coordinators here, but they've got 227 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 5: that experience, and so I think that helps out. I 228 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 5: was counting up they've got and I'm going to count 229 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 5: Carlos Polk, who's been here before, but he's new this year. 230 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: He's an assistant special teams coach. 231 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 5: Fifteen first year coaches, not in their careers, but fifteen 232 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 5: new coaches for the Cowboys. 233 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: Fifteen new faces on the seat. 234 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 5: And I've been told that there's a level of enthusiasm 235 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 5: and excitement on that staff. And really they haven't done 236 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 5: anything football yet, basically meetings and analyzing players getting ready 237 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 5: for combine, right, but it sounded like there was a 238 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 5: renewed enthusiasm on that coaching staff. 239 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 7: Well, they all made an impact, a somewhat impact where 240 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 7: they came from. 241 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: To me, that gives me, you know, a little bit 242 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: of optimism. 243 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, to know that you can you've been 244 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 7: very good at turning something around or showing something innovative. 245 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 2: You know, I'll take those guys. 246 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 5: But it looks like there's a huge investment on the 247 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 5: offensive line. If you look at the coordinator, the offensive 248 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 5: line coach, the guy that's the assistant offensive line coach, 249 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 5: I would think, and if you look at Schottenheimer's history 250 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 5: as an OC, he's had pretty good running offenses, So 251 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 5: I think that that bodes well. And the other guy 252 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 5: that is a former offensive coordinator and I know he's 253 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: been let go twice, but Ken Dorsey, who is now 254 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 5: the past game coordinator, I think he was the last 255 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 5: tire they made, maybe yep. And he's a former awfully 256 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: good quarterback at Miami and then he was he would 257 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 5: ended up being the o C at Buffalo and then 258 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 5: this last year at Cleveland. So they've got a lot 259 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 5: of experience. Maybe not in the title they have, but 260 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: elsewhere in football. 261 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 7: Well, when you start talking about offense, that's starting with 262 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 7: the offensive line, and so what about defense? 263 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 5: And he changes, and he well, Matt Aberfluss head coached 264 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: and the Bears. So now you got a former coordinator 265 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 5: with the Colts, head coach with the Bears coming back 266 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 5: with you as your defensive coordinator. So I think, you know, 267 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 5: that's another one that's I think bodes well for having 268 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: that kind of experience on the staff. He's this will 269 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 5: be his He's got seventeen years of experience in the NFL. 270 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 5: The linebackers coach who started here, Dave Borganzi, He's been 271 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: in the league fifteen years. This one caught my eye. 272 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 5: Andre Curtis, defensive pass game coordinator safeties, twenty years of 273 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 5: NFL experience, and the defensive line coach, Aaron Whitecotton thirteen 274 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 5: years in the NFL. So it wasn't like they're bringing 275 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 5: in all these newbies, right. They have brought in some 276 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: guys that have experience in the NFL. 277 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: And several of those coaches have been with iberflus for 278 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 4: a number of years, most recently at Chicago, and some 279 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: of them go way back with him. 280 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 5: Curtis was with him in Chicago. 281 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 4: He was also on the staff as the past game 282 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: coordinator in Seattle when schottenheimers. That was there, so there's 283 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 4: a familiarity there. 284 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: And what I remember. 285 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 7: About Eberflus is how well his defense has always played 286 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 7: and how he has always had playmaking defensive backs. 287 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 5: Yeah in Chicago, right, and he was here first as 288 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 5: the linebackers coach and had been a defensive coordinator in 289 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 5: college at Missouri by the way. Oh so we'll hold 290 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 5: it against him. He's had pretty good defenses, by the way. 291 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: And not to mention so the special teams coach, Nick Sorenson, 292 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: was the defensive coordinator for the forty nine ers last year. 293 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so they they've got some you know, when you 294 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 5: put together a staff, it's difficult. You don't have carte 295 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 5: blanche treatment out there, right, I just get who I want. 296 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 5: You find somebody you want, but are they available? And 297 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 5: it doesn't always work out that way? 298 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: So and will it fit? And they've got to fit. 299 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 5: Right, And a lot of these guys came from college too, 300 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 5: so you've got some guys that you know, kind of 301 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 5: been in the college game also, so. 302 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 7: New ideas like Jimmy Johnson right exactly. 303 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 6: In fact, that crew did the research on it. 304 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 4: The average age of this new coaching staff is forty 305 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 4: one years old. 306 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 307 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 4: Okay. And last year the average age was forty six 308 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 4: years old. Okay, So on average five years younger. Okay, 309 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 4: across that's across the board. I mean you're talking to 310 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: twenty five man coaching staff basically, okay, As far as 311 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 4: the coordinators are concerned, head coach and coordinators, the average 312 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 4: age on this staff with Schottenheimer, eber Flus, Clayton Adams, 313 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 4: Nick Sorenson is forty eight years old. And the average 314 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 4: age last year with Mike McCarthy, Mike Zimmer, Schottenheimer and 315 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 4: John Fossil was fifty seven years old. They're nine years younger. 316 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: As far as the coordinators go, get this. You mentioned Jimmy, Okay. 317 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: I went back and looked at because we talked about 318 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 4: it a week ago. The young staff that Jimmy brought in. 319 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 4: Of course, they had been together at Miami, most of 320 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 4: those guys, Dave Wanstead, Butch Davis now and Tony. 321 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: Wise, some of them at Pittsburgh. 322 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I try in Oklahoma State also, the average age 323 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 4: of that coaching staff was forty three and a half 324 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: years old, okay, And this one's forty one years old. 325 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 5: And it was only forty three because of dick. No, 326 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 5: actually take that. 327 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 6: I take that back, by the way, I didn't look 328 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 6: at it. 329 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: I didn't look at nineteen because there were some of 330 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 4: the veteran guys that there was a right. Alan Lowry 331 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 4: was another one that was still on the staff in 332 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 4: eighty nine. It was a holdover. 333 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 2: But I went and. 334 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: Looked at the Super Bowl year nineteen ninety two, So 335 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: this was not when these guys were hired. They had 336 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: three or four three years experience in the league by then. 337 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: The average age is forty three and a half. Guess 338 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 4: what the average age of the Philadelphia Eagles coaching staff 339 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 4: was last season twenty twenty four. Forty three and a 340 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 4: half years old, the same average age as the Jimmy 341 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 4: Johnson staff. So there's the sweet spot right there. You 342 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: went your coaching staff out in their early forties. 343 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 5: It helps when the head coach is not sixty years old. 344 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: That's true, starting right. 345 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: But he's only a counting one of those twenty five 346 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: that's right. 347 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. He kind of throws it off though, yeah, 348 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: uh huh. 349 00:19:55,160 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: But even the average age of the coordinators when Jimmy 350 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 4: was coordinators and head coach, they were all late thirties 351 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 4: early forties. I mean they've been orv you know who 352 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: was in. 353 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: That same he's the oldest. 354 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: He's fifty four, fifty five years old. Yeah, and so 355 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 4: he is now Schottenneimer's fifty one, and Sorenson's in his forties, 356 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: and Adams is likewise, Yeah, because Adam's Adam forty two. 357 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: He just turned forty two. 358 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 5: Right, So but yeah, so yeah, it's a kind. 359 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 4: Of a new and Sorenson's forty two. 360 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 5: It's a new young, energetic I would imagine coaching Stone. 361 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: All right, we got to take a break here, and 362 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: we got more mixed shots than just a. 363 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: Ballment only. 364 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 8: Cowboys Football and Miller Lite. 365 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: What a pairing? 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Free agents to be this Franchise 420 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 4: Tag Day. 421 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 5: Franchise Tag Day February eighteenth through March fourth, So any 422 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 5: player that's headed towards unrestricted free agency, you could slap 423 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 5: the franchise tag and with this transition too. 424 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 4: So I'm listening to some national shows and they're talking 425 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 4: about Michael Parsons and what the franchise tag is. 426 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, they don't. 427 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: He's on his fifth year option. He's not eligible for 428 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: the French he's not a free agent. I have no idea. 429 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know it, but they should know it. I 430 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: didn't know it. 431 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: And so this does not apply this year to Michael Parsons. 432 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 4: And because he's on a fifth year option, which is 433 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: around twenty. 434 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 5: Three million dollars three twenty four million. 435 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 436 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, And the franchise tag for just looking at this 437 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 5: year or going next year if you couldn't get a 438 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 5: long term deal done with them linebackers twenty seven million. 439 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 5: It has gone up dramatically. 440 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: So if you can't get a deal done, if. 441 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 5: He couldn't get an extension done before free agency in 442 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 5: twenty twenty or even this year, yes, this year, everybody's like, 443 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 5: well they got to get this done. Well yeah, but uh, 444 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 5: he's going to count twenty four million either, you know 445 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 5: for sure? 446 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 2: So have you. 447 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: I've got the history of it right here, you know, 448 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 4: at a certain point, and I'm looking back when that 449 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 4: point was. This is going back to twenty twenty one, 450 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 4: the year that Micah was drafted. Okay, you want if 451 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: you played edge rusher, you wanted to be listed as 452 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: a defensive end, right, not an outside linebacker. Because in 453 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 4: this as an example, the franchise tag value in twenty 454 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: twenty one for a defensive end was a sixteen million 455 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 4: dollars salary for a linebacker it was fourteen point seven 456 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 4: million dollars. And so I remember when when Micah came 457 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 4: into the league, he wanted to be referred to as 458 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 4: a defensive end. 459 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: Didn't know was he aware? 460 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, oh yeah, Mike is aware of everything. Uh, 461 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 4: and so but in the time that Micah has been 462 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 4: in the league, things have shifted. In fact, the next year, 463 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two linebackers, the franchise tag was slightly 464 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 4: more than a defensive end. And now it's gotten to 465 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 4: the point, as Mickey just pointed out, where a linebacker, 466 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 4: it's twenty five million dollars. That's the right number, and 467 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the right thing, right. 468 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 5: So it's the franchise tag for this year linebackers. What 469 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 5: I would you as twenty seven? 470 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 4: Oh, twenty seven? 471 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 5: Wow? 472 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 4: Okay, So spow track does not have it updated. What 473 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: does it have for defensive ends? 474 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 5: Twenty four to seven? 475 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 4: Okay, So here's what's happened. 476 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 5: These pass rushers are playing in three four defenses and 477 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 5: they're technically an outside linebacker in a three. 478 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 6: Four, but they're pass rushers, that's right, And once they 479 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 6: go to Nickel a defensive end. 480 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 5: Right. But that's what's caused this explosion with the linebacker franchise. 481 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 4: And I don't understand why they don't differentiate between an 482 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 4: outside linebacker and an inside linebacker, right. You would never 483 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 4: you would never tag an inside linebacker because the inside 484 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 4: linebacker has the same tag number as an outside line right, 485 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: which is, which is way more than what inside linebackers 486 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 4: are getting paid. 487 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 5: And what has happened on the offensive line because they 488 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 5: just list offensive line. They don't put tackle, center, guard 489 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 5: right they need because the guards aren't getting paid. 490 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 7: You know, that's when they really point them out when 491 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 7: it comes to getting paid. 492 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, he's a guard now. 493 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 5: But you're paying. But you're paying big bucks for the tackles. Yeah, 494 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 5: and so that ups everybody else. 495 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 4: What do you got for a running back? 496 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 5: Running back? That's one of the first things I looked at. 497 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 5: Thirteen point six million. 498 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 7: Okay, So if you had if you were to predict 499 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 7: who we were going to put on. 500 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 5: Franchise if we have this year, Yes, who do you 501 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 5: want franchised? Well, among here are there's twenty one unrestricted free. 502 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: Ag Okay, give me names. 503 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 12: Well i'll give you Okay, I'll give you one name, 504 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 12: the one that everybody says they have to resign Osa 505 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 12: Odiggie Zua. And they have defensive on the defensive defensive tackle. 506 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 12: What do you have I've got for defensive tackle twenty 507 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 12: three point four to six million franchise. 508 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 4: And that is a hard cap number. It's one year, 509 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 4: twenty three point whatever. 510 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 5: That was Now, if it's somebody that you absolutely want 511 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 5: to keep and you can't get signed to an extension 512 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 5: before the March twelfth start of the new year, you 513 00:28:54,360 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 5: can franchise them and it gives you until July Bituly 514 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 5: sometime fifteenth to sign them to an extension as long 515 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 5: as you've tagged him. And then if you can't sign 516 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 5: him to extension, that guy can only sign him. 517 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: And sometimes it's you tag him now because this window 518 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 4: is open before free agency starts. You tag him now, 519 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 4: and that get and then it gives you the early 520 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 4: time a free agency leading up to it, you can 521 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: still you're still working on a deal. Doesn't mean that 522 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: he's going to play on a franchise. Tag This is 523 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 4: just okay, we're securing your your servant, your rights, and 524 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 4: so you're not hitting free agency, and it will make 525 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 4: them okay. Sit down at the negotiating. 526 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 5: Table, and the other guy that you know you'd love 527 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 5: to have back you're probably not going to sign them 528 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 5: to a big, long term deal would be Eric Kendricks. 529 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 5: I mean, he only led you and tackles right now. 530 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 4: The difference being, of course, he was a Mike Zimmer 531 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: head of history with Mike Zimmer doesn't have the history 532 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: with Ebert. 533 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 5: Right and he and they only signed him on a 534 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 5: one year deal for it was less than five million. 535 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 5: The linebacker tag, like I just said, is twenty seven million, 536 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 5: and that's probably not happened for a guy that's in 537 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 5: his early thirty. 538 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 4: The Kendrick Steel was much like what Philadelphia did with 539 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 4: Zach Bond, right, same type deal, which is one year, 540 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 4: three and a half million dollars. 541 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that's about what they signed Kendrick. 542 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 4: So go find another one like Parsons or Zach Bond 543 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 4: and a half million. 544 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 5: I hope you get lucky that. 545 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 4: Has a history with Ebra Flus. 546 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: So he has a history with a lot of good. 547 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 5: So I'm going to tell you the unrestricted free agents. 548 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 5: You tell me to stop when you want to franchise, 549 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 5: that's okay. 550 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 4: So I think you're gonna have a green light the 551 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 4: whole way. 552 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 6: Trey Lanson Hooper, rush. 553 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: Right, the light is green. 554 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: The light is still green. 555 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 6: Brandon Cook, come on, guys, come on through. 556 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 5: Tuma. 557 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: He don't go. 558 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: Oh there you go stop. 559 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 5: Zach Martin. Uh, now we get into the defense. Chauncey Golston, 560 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: Lynnville Joseph DeMarcus Lawrence, who, by the way, when I 561 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 5: ran into him the other day, he said, he wants 562 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 5: to play, and he's healthy or he's ready to basically 563 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 5: run that he will be good to go. 564 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: So he's on track. 565 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 5: He's on track to play Osa. Carlos Watkins, Eric Kendricks, 566 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 5: Nick Vigil, C J. Goodwin, Jordan Lewis, Israel mcwamou. 567 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: He said stop, He said, stop Lewis, Now, what's your 568 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: cornerback number? 569 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 5: Cornerback twenty point three million guaranteed Nickel corner. 570 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know. 571 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, so ever, what would you have paid if 572 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 4: you were playing today at thirty years old? What please 573 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 4: would you have put a stop sign on the franchise? 574 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: Dadamn? Right, I'll take that franchise, dad. But this is 575 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: speaking as a sixty five year. 576 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 5: Old, right, because you know, you could think, okay, we're 577 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 5: going to sign him to a twenty million franchise tag 578 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 5: or offer it to retain his rights, right, and then 579 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 5: start negotiating a long term deal. Well, he's got to 580 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 5: be thirty by now, Jordan Lewis said, So you're not 581 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 5: going to sign him to a five year deal, But 582 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 5: whatever you sign him to has to total, like immediately, 583 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 5: twenty million dollars. If you're an agent negotiating right between 584 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 5: whatever the base salary is and the guarantees, it's got 585 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 5: to be twenty million. 586 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 4: Okay, can you you cannot have two franchise tag players, right, 587 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 4: but from a salary cap standpoint, can you afford what 588 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 4: is in essence to franchise tag players? Because you already 589 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: have one this year in Micah Parsons who's playing on 590 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 4: a fifth year option at twenty four million dollars, which 591 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 4: is a hard cap number. The Cowboys are unless they 592 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: got unless they had a long term deal done for Micah, 593 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: they are out of the game. As far as franchise 594 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 4: tagging another player, we think just went through the list. 595 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: There's not a player on the list anyway. Now Osa 596 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 4: would become the closest, but still. 597 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 5: A young guy. You know you know that mind signed. 598 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 4: Well the other one Rico Dudele for a running back 599 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 4: thirteen million dollars whatever it is. Okay, that is doable, 600 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 4: But you have to look at the market out there 601 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 4: and what is available, not only in free agency, and 602 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 4: it's not as good a year in free agency. See 603 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 4: as far as running backs, it is a great year 604 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 4: in the draft as far as running backs go, so. 605 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 5: And saying you have to make that decision ahead of 606 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 5: time because you've got to do the franchise tag by 607 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 5: March fourth. The drafts not till April, and so that's 608 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 5: why you want to know whatever what yah's out there 609 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 5: and the chances of improving yourself in the draft at 610 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 5: running back. And there's a great chance this team is 611 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 5: going to improve itself at running back in the draft, 612 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 5: because you can't sit there and say, well, I'm going 613 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 5: to reserve his rights for whatever the franchise is. Well, 614 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 5: if I'm that guy and I see the Cowboys salary cap, 615 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 5: if they give me a franchise tag on the eighteenth, 616 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 5: on the nineteenth, I'm signing it because then it's guaranteed, 617 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 5: and then it's up to them to sign me to 618 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 5: an extension. 619 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: And then en Rico also has not gotten to the 620 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 4: point and you got to look at what his age 621 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 4: is right now, too, but he is not He's had 622 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 4: basically a half season of accumulating multiple one hundred yard games. 623 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 7: Do we see this as a good draft for offensive lineman? 624 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 5: Yes, if the projections I see for the first round, it. 625 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 7: There's no one in your I don't hear you about 626 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 7: your green note book. 627 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 4: Well that that's because we haven't had the combine yet. 628 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 7: But you still you still know, you still know someone 629 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 7: jumped the gun. 630 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 2: The process. Yeah, it's a process. Yeah. 631 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: And by the way, the combine is next week. I'll 632 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 4: start getting putting some numbers with these players and then 633 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 4: we'll have a better idea what's what's available. But I 634 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 4: can to Now you just said offensive lineman in the 635 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 4: first round. Okay, but what about this running back we're 636 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 4: supposed to take in the first round, Ashton Gent, Then 637 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 4: you're not taking an offensive lineman in the first round, right, 638 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 4: So then offensive lineman drop off after that, right, and 639 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 4: running backs are still there after that. 640 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 5: When we the next show, because we don't have time now, 641 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 5: we're going to go through the decisions the Cowboys have 642 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 5: to make roster wise before the draft shows up, because 643 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 5: that will dictate where they go. 644 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 4: Well, ever, since will be interested in listening to that show? 645 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: I will? Yeah, well I won't be here. 646 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 7: But you know, we're getting down to the to the 647 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 7: nuts and boats here to where this is when you 648 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 7: start first. 649 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 2: Picking your parts before you put the robot together. 650 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 7: You know, and I want to see what that process 651 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 7: is because this is the biggest offseason the. 652 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: Cowboys have had in a long time. 653 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 7: Guys, because you're looking at first of all, the NFC 654 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 7: East is paramount. 655 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: I mean, they are at the top of the NFL game. 656 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 4: You would say the arrow is pointed up and we 657 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 4: are our butts off. 658 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: Okay, but they are no. We better be though. 659 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 7: Yeah they are, but we better grab onto something because 660 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 7: right now they're elevated. We don't want to be down 661 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 7: there with the giants, man, we want to be up there, 662 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 7: up with these two guys. 663 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 4: That ship is sailing, is. 664 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 7: Really sailing fast. They got the uh where, they have 665 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 7: the sales up. They're ready to go. Man, wins at 666 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 7: their back. We got to catch onme. We better grab something, 667 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 7: and this is the off season to do it. 668 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: We gotta do it this. 669 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 5: Year, except they don't have a lot of salary. 670 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 2: Capt I want to hear this bag se. I'm like 671 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: them damn fans. 672 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 4: Out there and there we're gonna talk about Anderson. They 673 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 4: are due to have an injury plague season like the 674 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 4: Cowboys had this year. This was the Cowboys injury plague season. 675 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 4: Now and the next year it's a new ball game. 676 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 5: Do you see how the thing in this town slides 677 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 5: like what the Mavericks are going through. Now, Oh, the injuries. 678 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 5: They got all these guys missing, and it's like the Cowboys. 679 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 5: You talk about the injuries all week and then you 680 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 5: lose and go, well. 681 00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 4: What the hell happened? 682 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: Jerry? Fire the coach? What's wrong? Jerry? 683 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 5: So I went back and counted up miss starts by 684 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 5: starters or guys who they needed to start and got hurt. 685 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 5: I got to one hundred, one hundred miss games by starters. 686 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 2: But you didn't do the whole league, right. 687 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 5: No, no. 688 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 6: Else did. But one hundred sounds like a lot. 689 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, especially when you're talking about missing Pro Bowl guys 690 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 5: from the season before. 691 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 2: I got guys looking around the corner of us, like they. 692 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 4: Got to get going here, Okay, we're going to get going. 693 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 5: No, I'm looking at my camera. I can't see behind me. 694 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 6: Okay, I have. 695 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 2: No idea your job. 696 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 6: And I still didn't get to tell my. 697 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 5: Dick knowledge story. Remember about the shoulder? 698 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, do it next time. Yeah, Okay, that 699 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 4: doesn't We'll see you again. 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