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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental health podcast

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Speaker 1: helping you out of the gray and into the blue.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glacier.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Unbreakable Mental Health Podcast with Jay Glazer. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jay Glazer, and look, you know, every week we try

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Speaker 2: and give you somebody amazing, cool, innovative, a disruptor, and man,

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Speaker 2: we've got that and so much more with my guest today.

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Speaker 2: Before I get to him, got to chime in with

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Speaker 2: the people who pay our bills. So if you're like

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Speaker 2: many people, you'll be surprised to learn that one in

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Speaker 2: five adults in this country experienced mental illness last year,

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Speaker 2: yet far too many failed to receive the support they need. Carolm.

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Speaker 2: Behavioral health is doing something about it. They understand that

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Speaker 2: behavioral health is a key part of whole health, delivering

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Speaker 2: compassionate care that treats physical, mental, emotional, and social needs

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Speaker 2: and tandem, Carolyn, behavioral health raising the quality of life

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Speaker 2: from empathy and action. All right, gang again, Welcome into

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Speaker 2: the Breakable Mental Health Podcast with Jay Glazer and Josh Altman. Today,

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Speaker 2: the one and only Josh Boltman. I mean, look, this

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Speaker 2: guy has built an empire. He's on a billion TV

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Speaker 2: shows now that he kind of created this brand. He look, Josh,

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Speaker 2: I love having you on because people think it's a

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Speaker 2: mental health podcast and we talk about, you know, just

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Speaker 2: mental health issues. It's not. Our mental health issues also

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Speaker 2: leads to mental wealth. And I'm trying to expand this

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Speaker 2: out and how we can use a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: between our years behind our ribcage to build things we

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Speaker 2: can never ever ever imagine. When did you first of all,

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Speaker 2: welcome brother?

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Speaker 3: First of all, can I just see something before we start?

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: I love you, bro, I love him, I love you. You

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Speaker 4: have such a major impact on my life. The success

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Speaker 4: that I try to create every single morning I've been through.

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Speaker 4: I know it's not like you know, I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to get deep here or anything, but I've been through

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Speaker 4: a lot of gyms in my life. And the moment

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Speaker 4: I found Unbreakable, which is my gym every freaking day

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Speaker 4: of the year, even on Sundays, it put me in

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Speaker 4: a position to succeed.

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Speaker 3: It set me up for success.

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Speaker 4: As my wife says all the time, how she says

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Speaker 4: she sets me up for success. Unbreakable is part of

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Speaker 4: my daily routine on so many different levels and I

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Speaker 4: just want to say thank you before we even get started.

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Speaker 4: This is not like, oh, I'm on Jay's podcast, So

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Speaker 4: this is this is like you are true family. It's

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Speaker 4: so many different ways. Man, You're always there for me

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Speaker 4: and I appreciate it. So this is my pleasure and

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Speaker 4: an honor to be on your podcast. So thanks for

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Speaker 4: having me.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I want people to know this. I didn't fucking pay

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Speaker 2: him a dime to do anything, but I needed you

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Speaker 2: walking around with me, like twenty four to seven. But

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Speaker 2: that's the whole thing. Like you know again, we I'm

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Speaker 2: Breakable is not a gym at the community, and we

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Speaker 2: need community. One of the pillars of my of Unbreakable

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Speaker 2: is find your team. And for me, like that cage

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Speaker 2: that Matt, the boxing ring, the gym has always been

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Speaker 2: more of a mental health place for me than a

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Speaker 2: physical health Yeah, and you're living that now. Also, like

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Speaker 2: we have problems, you got to go inside those doors.

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Speaker 2: Like I'll tell you where I got this from. Man.

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Speaker 2: Randy Coutur one time went out in the fight, had

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Speaker 2: And I was like, dude, how did you do that?

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Speaker 2: And he said that cage is the only place my

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Speaker 2: when I will built Unbreakable was with that same thing

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Speaker 3: And I look, I'm a team guy, Jay, you know that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I may not have been the most famous

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but the team mentality for me throughout life,

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Speaker 3: It's, you know, teamwork makes the dream work.

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Speaker 4: And I have a million ways to say it because

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Speaker 4: teamwork makes the dream work. There's no I in team

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Speaker 4: And that was probably one of the best things I

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Speaker 3: And so yes, what you have created with the team.

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Speaker 4: Because it's funny you say that I was filming a

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Speaker 2: I got to get this hole on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it because it's different mindsets.

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Speaker 4: And then when I show in it show up at

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Speaker 3: It's just different. But it's all part of the family.

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Speaker 2: So you have created an industry. I guess that you're

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Speaker 2: has time's gone on it it's become a juggernaut. You've

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, you know people watch the show a million

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Speaker 2: Lucky, you know things being lucky.

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Speaker 4: He's just he was born with it, or he had

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Speaker 3: But there's been a lot of highs and lows throughout

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Speaker 2: And by the way you talk about team and like

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Speaker 3: So we would go paint the house one week.

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Speaker 4: The next week we get another paycheck, we would knock

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Speaker 3: The next week we get another paycheck, we change out

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Speaker 3: At that point, I realized in my life a couple

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Speaker 4: I said, if we can make this money doing this,

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Speaker 3: Why not mortgage the biggest ones? Why not sell the

440
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Speaker 3: biggest ones?

441
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Speaker 4: And so I said, look, we were living at the

442
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Speaker 4: time in a place in where were we we were

443
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Speaker 4: out we were in like silver Lake, and then we

444
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Speaker 4: were in Melrose area, like near Melrose High School or whatever.

445
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Speaker 3: And I said, if I'm going to be a realtor,

446
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Speaker 3: I want.

447
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Speaker 4: To sell houses in Beverly Hills, because that's Beverly Hills,

448
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 4: the big bat houses.

449
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Speaker 3: And it's like kicking a football, right a twenty yard

450
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 3: field goal is the same as a fifty yard field goal.

451
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Speaker 3: You kick the ball the same every time. That's what

452
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Speaker 3: our coach choose to tell us.

453
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Speaker 4: Kick the ball the same, Kick the ball the same,

454
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 4: because you get in your head and you're all screwed

455
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Speaker 4: and you got to have ice water in your veins.

456
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Speaker 3: And if you think that you're fifty yard is a

457
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Speaker 3: twenty yard or you're gonna nail it all the time.

458
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Speaker 4: So we had that kicker mentality, and so I said, well,

459
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Speaker 4: if we're going to sell houses, let's go.

460
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Speaker 3: Let's go with one of these fancy firms in Beverly Hills.

461
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Speaker 3: And that's what we did. We walked into this.

462
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Speaker 4: This this company which was actually run by Rick Hilton,

463
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Speaker 4: Paris Hilton's dad. Remember you know, the Hilt family, the

464
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Speaker 4: big bad Hilt family, you know, real estate legends. And

465
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Speaker 4: we walked in there and I remember he said, you know,

466
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Speaker 4: we don't hire a new agent, sorry, guys. And I

467
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 4: remember I'm picking my brother under the table and I

468
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 4: go I just like I was like, no, no.

469
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Speaker 3: We sold thirteen houses.

470
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Speaker 4: Rick. Meanwhile, the thirteen were our own and we had

471
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Speaker 4: lost everything on the thirteenth.

472
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Speaker 2: Were hey, but you sold thirteen hours. You weren'tlying.

473
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Speaker 4: We weren't lying, but we weren't lying well we were

474
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Speaker 4: talking about that is because we had an agent for

475
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Speaker 4: us then.

476
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Speaker 2: But we still sold them.

477
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Speaker 3: We still sold them.

478
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Speaker 4: We got in the door and you know, they gave

479
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Speaker 4: us the I don't know, it's a generous clock at

480
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Speaker 4: whatever it was. But we worked our way up from there,

481
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 4: and you know, we dialed for dollars. We pounded the pavement.

482
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 4: It was just my brother and I and we did

483
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Speaker 4: the only thing we knew how to do, which was

484
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 4: just you know, work NonStop because we were always workers.

485
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Speaker 3: My grandfather who came over from Europe, from Russia, who

486
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: pushed a push cart in New York City.

487
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Speaker 4: He was a worker. My dad was a worker. It

488
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 4: was just it was installed from us from the beginning.

489
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it.

490
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Speaker 2: You're still met eighty h D bringing him. You're still

491
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 2: you still have an AWD? How did the TV part

492
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: come about? Jay?

493
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Speaker 3: Here you go?

494
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Speaker 2: Here's here you go. So, by the way, if you're

495
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: on our Sunday show, we would have wrapped you like

496
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Speaker 2: our producers Old Richard after your rap.

497
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Speaker 4: So here we are here, we are right. We sell

498
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Speaker 4: our first deal. It wasn't a twenty million dollar deal.

499
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 4: It was the one point four million dollar deal. I

500
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 4: remember everything about that deal like I needed air at

501
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 4: the time. That's what I needed. I needed that commission.

502
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Speaker 2: And uh.

503
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Speaker 4: We ended up selling a house to a young lady

504
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Speaker 4: named Kim Kardashian, an eight hundred thousand dollars condo, and

505
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 4: we met her no way. We met her at the house,

506
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: the castle that we used to have when we rented

507
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Speaker 4: it out when we couldn't afford the mortgage anymore, so

508
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 4: we rented it out to parties, and we met her

509
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Speaker 4: at the part that was being filmed for something talking

510
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Speaker 4: to her. Next thing, you know, we're selling her place

511
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 4: for eight hundred grand.

512
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 3: It was a condom. Okay, this is wow, this is

513
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: real shit.

514
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah no, this is this is how it happened. And

515
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 4: then Kim introduces us to her sister, who introduces us

516
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 4: to somebody else. Next thing, you know, we're we're selling

517
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Speaker 4: a couple of houses to some well known young Hollywood

518
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Speaker 4: and I get a call from a show called Million

519
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Speaker 4: Dollar Listing.

520
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Speaker 3: And I had heard about the show.

521
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 4: I never had seen it, and they go, yeah, we

522
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 4: saw you in the newspaper selling a house for someone,

523
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Speaker 4: and we'd like to meet with you.

524
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Speaker 3: And I think I got the gig, right, I'm like,

525
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Speaker 3: oh my god, I could.

526
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Speaker 4: The first thing I do, you know, I call my mom, Mom,

527
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 4: you know, back in Boston, Ma, I got the gig.

528
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Speaker 3: I'm going to be on TV.

529
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: And uh, here we are and I walk in to

530
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Speaker 4: go meet with them, and there's five hundred agents waiting

531
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Speaker 4: in a waiting room to meet with them.

532
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Speaker 3: You know, first thing I do, no gig, no exact

533
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 3: I didn't get it.

534
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 4: But you know, my moms she already called half in Massachusetts. Anyways,

535
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 4: I go back. I go back seven times. I eventually

536
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 4: get the gig. That's how I got a million dollars.

537
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you how i iconic you are now.

538
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: I didn't know the show was out before you. After you,

539
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: I started watching it. It's like you've built it. You've

540
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: taken it to a different level. I didn't know that.

541
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: That's why I asked you the question of did the

542
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: show come to you? You camp to did it come to you?

543
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: You are built in That's incredible, but that's also a

544
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 2: testament to what you guys have been able to do.

545
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: You've taken something again like NFL reporting is around way

546
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: before me, right, But it's something you take and there's

547
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 2: a way to take it and reprise it to something

548
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: bigger than it has been. That's what you've done.

549
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and look we go, we go all in

550
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 4: And it was a It's tough because I opened up

551
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 4: my life to the world. I didn't sign up for this.

552
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: I'm not an actor, just like you know you're on TV.

553
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: You're not an actor.

554
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: You're just doing what you love and so you get

555
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 3: the good.

556
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, wait a minute, backup, wasn't ballers for

557
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: five years. Don't forget that. I wasn't. Although you're right,

558
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: I was playing my normal asshole self. So yeah, still

559
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 2: not a national.

560
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: Go ahead, sorry a little way and songak. I jumped

561
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: not that high, but I jumped up pretty high on them.

562
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: And you know who that was? Man? No, who was that?

563
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: That was one of the man one of the first

564
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: guys NFL players we trained there. His name is Ronnie Hillman.

565
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: Ronnie was a running back for the Broncos. Ronnie passed

566
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: this past year at thirty one years of age. He

567
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: was our first who's I think he was our first

568
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: slew of clients at unbreakable, and we trained in another

569
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: gym before that. Man, he was amazing. And then in

570
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: the beginning of A two, remember guys feet were going

571
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: real fast and we used that in Ballers two and

572
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: that was another young guy we were training. And I

573
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: sent this video to Steve Levinson and those guys who

574
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: produce it. I'm like, man, you gotta see this and

575
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: can we use it for the opening. I'm like, I

576
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: guess that was Odell Beckham and they're like, this wanted

577
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: to sped up. I'm like, oh, this is this guy. Man,

578
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: this young kid, he's man, this gets unbelievable.

579
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, the people you have through there, it's so cool,

580
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 4: the different faces I see in there every day and

581
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 4: the people I meet.

582
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: But there's no egos, and that's the thing, like people

583
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: look and also we do have to play a certain

584
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: thing on television. But the biggest advice I give everybody also, man,

585
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: don't ever have an ego, Like always act like you're

586
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: so grateful. God almighty, how did I get here. I'm

587
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: still waiting to wake up in fifth grade and none

588
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: of this happened, and my mom woke me up for school.

589
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: And don't ever lose that. Don't act like, oh I

590
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: deserve this stuff.

591
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 3: No, I agree with that.

592
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 4: I agree with that, but I will tell you in

593
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: my business it's interesting. So you have a fine line

594
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 4: right when I was on the show, when you get

595
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 4: on a reality show, for anybody who's about to be

596
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: on a reality show, when you're the new guy, they

597
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 4: hate you.

598
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 3: And I went through a lot.

599
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: I hated me too for years.

600
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 4: It takes a couple of years when then they just

601
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 4: don't like you because they messed up what they had.

602
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: It's in comfort, yes, yes, well they a to me

603
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: because I started relationships with players and coaches and no

604
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: one had those back then. Why and gave that as

605
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: a weapon, so they know one before it and they

606
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: used to They used to write shit about straying and I.

607
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: They used to write it publicly about our friendship. Like

608
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: now everything's relationship based, right, So I understand the go ahead,

609
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: And that's hard for people like you and I because

610
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: we want to be so loved, right, go ahead.

611
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 4: There's also there's a fine line between ego and confidence. Right,

612
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: I'm selling multi million dollar homes for you know, some

613
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: of the biggest people in Hollywood.

614
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: Were gonna have confidence in their life still be.

615
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: Humble, right, it's the biggest investment of life.

616
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 4: They want they want the guy who is confident, who

617
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 4: they know is going to treat their big bucks their

618
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 4: houses like it's their own money and they're gonna fight

619
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: for every dollar.

620
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: So they want the confidence.

621
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: But the ego, it's such a fine line that I

622
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 4: balance all the time. And trust me, since I've had kids,

623
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 4: ego ain't shit. And I'm sorry if you're not supposed

624
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 4: to to swear on your podcast, but.

625
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: I just fucking cursed nine times a running.

626
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: That's that's how I roll, and that's who I am.

627
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 4: But there's a big difference, especially when you're dealing with

628
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 4: people that I deal with daily, in the high net

629
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: worth individuals that I deal with, where you meet these

630
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: people who change the world, they create things that make

631
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: the world better, their heads of industries or this or that,

632
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 4: and you realize it's not ego, it's confidence in what

633
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: they do.

634
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: But also, you know it's it's.

635
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: That they want to be confident in you, so that

636
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: you have to realize what that is. You have to

637
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: make sure you don't you don't cross that line because

638
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: ego is obnoxious and people get turned off of it.

639
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: But there is a fine line there where they do

640
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: want you to be confident, but confidence.

641
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: And humility, so you can have them both, right, So, no,

642
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: you still want to be Look you walk in a

643
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: casual running you have to the most. You want that

644
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: fucking confidence. Yes, even if you think that other fucking

645
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: guy's gonna win, just got to go in there like

646
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make this the worst afternoon of his life.

647
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: That's the way we try and train. But also we

648
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: don't want to act like assholes when we do it.

649
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: But I still act like we're grateful, Like, man, I

650
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: still I just I never want to act like I'm odin.

651
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: I always want to just so I always keep in

652
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: the back of my mind be that little kid in

653
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: fifth grade still wait and wake up like I can't

654
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: believe it and exact humility. If it just kind of

655
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: rides in our personality, it helps us out.

656
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: And I realized after a couple of years on the

657
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 4: show that vulnerability is super important. People actually relate to

658
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: you because of that, you can be real like you're human.

659
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: Never before, you know, more than these past few years

660
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 4: of my life have I realized that it's okay, it's

661
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 4: okay to cry, it's okay to talk to people.

662
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: It's okay, it's okay.

663
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 4: To be honest and full with people, where before it's

664
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: it's I wasn't that guy.

665
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: I'll just admit it's just I wasn't that guy.

666
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: I was always the hard hitting I'm not going to

667
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 4: show anybody what I do.

668
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: I'm not going to show my cards.

669
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: You know.

670
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: Boom boom boom. I don't care. I'm unstoppable, I'm unbreakable.

671
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 4: And then you get through situations in life where you

672
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 4: do break and you realize your real friends.

673
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: Come out number one and two.

674
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: Even little things when I had when I had children

675
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: that I would call my clients and say, hey, I

676
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: love to talk to you right now about your house,

677
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: but my kids home. I hadn't seen them all day.

678
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 4: I just want to be with him for ten minutes

679
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 4: right now. Can I call you in a little bit,

680
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 4: And they go, awesome, have fun.

681
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: I love that. Call me later.

682
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: And you get a different part of respect when you

683
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 4: open yourself up to people's.

684
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: And you know that also just comes with age.

685
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: Man.

686
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: You know, you get into the league with a lot

687
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: of these guys like remember I played I played with

688
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: a lot of these guys and Donald McNabb was my quarterback.

689
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: We won the Big East Championship. I was in the

690
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: Orange Bowl, the Fiesa Bowl. My brother was was over

691
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: at the University of Colorado, probably the last time, and

692
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: they were good before now, right, so we know these

693
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 4: guys and they actually love us because they make fun

694
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: of us because we're kickers.

695
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: But that's okay.

696
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: No, you know what it was crazy. I go run

697
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: a training camp. I was on your show that one time,

698
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: and I go run a training camp. I can't begin

699
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: And I've told you this, how many freaking people the

700
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: NFL watch million dollars listing. They go home, they sit

701
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: there and they watch it there. Why was and you know,

702
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: why would they ever tell me that, because you're not

703
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: just gonna randomly tell me what you watch. But you know,

704
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: I was in the episode. I mean, it was unbelievable.

705
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: How many dudes in the NFL, players, coaches, general manager. Dude,

706
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: you're our favorite show, not just they watch it, You're

707
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: on our favorite show. Fonce Rosie, she freaking you know,

708
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: we have always slepts in the gym and her first

709
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: time in there and she saw you. She's like, Josh, all,

710
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 2: what works on? Herene? And I watched the show time.

711
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm like, are you guys shit me?

712
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: Hey, you guys going crazy about are you kidding me?

713
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: I know I'm the most average body type in that gym,

714
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 4: So I appreciate you saying that it's unbelievable. Yeah, in

715
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: my mind, I look in the gym, I look in

716
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: the mirror, and I see some of the other guys

717
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 4: in the gym in my mind.

718
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: But I want you all to know we had anyone

719
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: working down there, from the Rock and Demie Levado, the

720
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg, the whiz Khalifa to this person, that person,

721
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: this person, and my fiance and her sister walking. They're like,

722
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: oh my god, there's Josh Oltman. Oh my god. It

723
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: was unbelievable. And I was like, holy shit, do I

724
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: tell Josh this or not because he's just gonna wear

725
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: me out.

726
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 4: I saw you client my very dear friend Sean mcmay

727
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 4: on the show, right yep. And you know Sean is

728
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: one of our best friends. Matt and I, my brother

729
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: and I we text him all the time.

730
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: In Big Shot, here's our first guest we ever had

731
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: on this shop.

732
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: Oh really, so okay, So he just had because.

733
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Speaker 2: Yes, he was our first guest we ever had. Because

734
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: when I first started talking about mental health, we had

735
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: a trip in Cabo me, him and Andrew Whitworth where

736
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: they were trying to get me over breaking up with

737
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Rosie and they had a room for me, and I

738
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: was like isolating. Rosie and I had broken up, and

739
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: they're like, we got your room and get down here.

740
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: I went down. I wasn't gonna go, Sean was gonna leave.

741
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: And then Whitworth's like, I already paid for the room.

742
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: Come down here. I'm not gonna let you isolate. Ah. Fine,

743
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: I went down there. Sean's like, you're coming to my company.

744
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: He's like, and then I'm going to stay. And he

745
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 2: stayed that night. He was like, tell me about this

746
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: mental health. There's suppression, anxiety, all this stuff. Well that's

747
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: the trip. When we were down there, Matthew Stafford happened

748
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: to check in our hotel and that's how they met.

749
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: Come on.

750
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: So yes, so when they get the trade done, I'm

751
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: sitting right there. To get the deal done, I raise

752
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: a glass. I go to Rosie Tennison because if she

753
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 2: didn't break up with me, Sean, you still would have

754
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: been here. You two would have met each other, you

755
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 2: would have fall in love. This deal would have been

756
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: done Rosie Tennis if we did a shot to her.

757
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: Now I got back in them engaged to Rosie. Stafford's

758
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: the Rams. They want a suit bowl. So you know

759
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: it's all good.

760
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: I know you had a buyer ring, but did you

761
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: get a ring at it?

762
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: But that's why Sean was the first guest, because that's

763
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: like even an Unbreakable the book. I was talking to

764
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: him about mental health and then he really understood it

765
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: and started being vulnerable and leaning into people. But yes,

766
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: and that's why you and I actually became closer because

767
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: of McVeigh and Unbreakable. Yes, right, yeah, So I.

768
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: Think McVeigh is a perfect example of one of the

769
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 4: things that we pride ourselves with, which is surrounding yourself

770
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 4: with successful, positive people. And I remember when I first

771
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 4: met Sean, like he's one of those guys where you

772
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: just you feel good when you're around him. Right, he

773
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 4: has this positive attitude. Is it's funny because he talks

774
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: like a coach. Right, He's like, we're gonna see this course,

775
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: we're gonna see this house, and then we're gonna offer

776
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: on this house. But if we don't like this house,

777
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 4: we're gonna go, you know what I mean. He's talking

778
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: like a coach. But a lot of our success in

779
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 4: real estate, which you know, of course, it's it's it

780
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 4: might be different business than sports or this or that

781
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 4: is surrounding yourself with people who care about you, who

782
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 4: want you to succeed, who you know their energy is contagious,

783
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: and it's the complete opposite of surrounding yourself, which in

784
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: my life right there's a lot of haters. Whenever I

785
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: post something, whenever I do something, whatever it is, you

786
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 4: always have haters. It's more important as blocking those haters

787
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 4: out than you know, than it is to surround yourself

788
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: with those individuals. And he's one of those guys. And

789
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 4: I can tell you if you have you don't need ten,

790
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: you don't need fifteen people. You don't even need four

791
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: people like that in your life. If you can have

792
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 4: one person in your life that you can bounce your

793
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: ideas off, that care about you, that really cares about you,

794
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: that doesn't want shit from you.

795
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: Like my wife, for instance, who is such I mean,

796
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 3: she is such a badass.

797
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: She is a lot of the reason of you know,

798
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 4: since we have been married and I've had kids, and

799
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 4: my success is gone, you.

800
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: Know, way above where it was before. To have someone

801
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 3: in your life like that to.

802
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: Bounce off all your ideas and motivate you and is

803
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: your partner but a cheerleader at the same time as

804
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 4: she will take you down as quick as he pushes

805
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 4: you up. All those things are really important and everybody,

806
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 4: all you need is one person, and you know there

807
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: are people out there that would be happy to do that.

808
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of shit going on in

809
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: the world right now, a lot, and it can easily

810
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 3: take you down.

811
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 4: And so it's just so important to surround yourself with

812
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: those people to talk to those Give me.

813
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: So we have like seven minutes left and I have

814
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: my final question, which will be your unbreakable moment. Give

815
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: me kind of bullet points some of the best business

816
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: lessons you have learned since building this empire.

817
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: That you know are okay, first off, early, young Josh Altman,

818
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 4: fake it till you make it.

819
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: That's okay, all right.

820
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: Not all of us have somebody supporting us or giving

821
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 4: you that door that's going.

822
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: To open for you.

823
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 4: Fake it till you do what you need to do

824
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 4: to get to that moment. We live by a scenario

825
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: in our office and we have it in lights, literally

826
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 4: in lights over there a piece of.

827
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: Art that says, ready fire aim okay.

828
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 4: And I wrote about this in my first book called

829
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: It's Your Move by Josh Altman, Yours Truly, Ready Fire Aim.

830
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 4: What that means is being able to recognize an opportunity

831
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 4: when it's in front of you, and instead of taking

832
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: all this time waiting to get the perfect shot, get

833
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: that moment.

834
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: Just take a shot. Take a shot.

835
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: Mat I love that.

836
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: It's not about the shot, it's how if you miss,

837
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 4: how you bounce back. But I know so many people

838
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: in my life that have been waiting and waiting and

839
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 4: waiting and waiting and they.

840
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: Miss the opportunity.

841
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 4: The Altman way, Look, see the opportunity, find it, take

842
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: the shot. And if you got to bounce back and

843
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: mess up, maybe you invested all your money in a

844
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: house and you lost it. It's all about how you

845
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: bounce back. So ready fire, aim, not ready aim fire.

846
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 4: So that's something that we live by. Also, choose to

847
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 4: be lucky, okay, create your own luck. Put yourself in

848
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 4: situations where you are rubbing shoulders with the individuals who

849
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: you want to do work with, who you want to

850
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 4: be with. Like I like to say, because I'm a

851
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: sales guy, the people you want to sell to.

852
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: I got a very long.

853
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: Story which I'm not going to get into, which is

854
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: about how I was at Starbucks one day an athlete

855
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 4: walked into Starbucks.

856
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: I ended up saying, hey, like introducing myself. You got

857
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 3: to see this house.

858
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: I take them from Starbucks to the house and they

859
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 4: buy a twenty million dollar house.

860
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: And it's a long story. I'm not going to get

861
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 3: into it. But everybody says at the end of that story, oh,

862
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: he's just lucky. That's what they say.

863
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 4: But what they don't see is the reason why I

864
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: was at that Starbucks in the middle of Beverly Hills

865
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: where every time instead of going my office, I go

866
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 4: there because I know that the high net worked individuals

867
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: get their coffee there and I have you know, everything's

868
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 4: set up so everyone knows I'm a realtor there. So

869
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 4: I put myself in situations to be successful with the

870
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: type of people that I rubbed shoulders with. That's number two.

871
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: So you you stand out there, you're different, You're not

872
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: lucky like man. Once you get these opportunities to do

873
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: something with it.

874
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: That's right, ready, fire, and I am choose to be lucky.

875
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: The third and last one I'm going to leave you

876
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Speaker 4: with is treat everybody with respect. So there's a story

877
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Speaker 4: that I have where I talk about this young lady

878
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: who called me, who wanted to spend four thousand.

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Speaker 3: Dollars a month on a lease. And yet we do

880
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Speaker 3: a lot of big deals.

881
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Speaker 4: So if you look at the commissions on a four

882
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: thousand dollars a month lease, it's not a lot compared

883
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: to the houses we sell.

884
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: For some reason, I took the deal.

885
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 4: I ended up showing her places for lease for a month,

886
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: and if you actually do the math in the hours,

887
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 4: I ended up losing money by doing this deal. The

888
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: night we closed, she was so happy she called her dad,

889
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Speaker 4: who happened to be the president of a fortune.

890
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Speaker 3: Five hundred company. I didn't know about that.

891
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: The daughter called, which I have a daughter, so I

892
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 4: understand what it feels like to have a daughter call you.

893
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Speaker 4: And I'm so happy, dad, I got my place of

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Speaker 4: my dreams.

895
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Speaker 3: And he says, who's your realtor? And he ends up

896
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: buying a ten million dollar house through me.

897
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Speaker 4: Don't judge people right by the cover of what they

898
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 4: look like, what they do, or this or that.

899
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Speaker 3: Treat everybody with respect.

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Speaker 4: You never know where you're next deal, your next opportunity

901
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 4: comes from.

902
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: Because it's listen, life is not a.

903
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Speaker 4: Sprint, it's a marathon, and if you put it out

904
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Speaker 4: there with respect, you're going to get it back.

905
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Speaker 3: That's all I can say. Those three things.

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Speaker 2: I love that, dude, I love all three. Last question,

907
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Speaker 2: give me your own breakable moment, the moment that should

908
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: have broken you, and as a result, you are stronger

909
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life. You've got that currency

910
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Speaker 2: forever you know who you are.

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Speaker 4: I'm again, there are lots of them. I spoke about

912
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Speaker 4: that main moment in my life. Before you make it

913
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Speaker 4: to the mountaintop, which you think is the mountaintop, I

914
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 4: ended up losing everything. They are very easy reasons to

915
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Speaker 4: never get back to where you were. Like you said,

916
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Speaker 4: it's easy to just stay where you are and stay

917
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: in your comfort zone and fail. Surround yourself with successful

918
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 4: people that want you to be successful. That was I'm lucky.

919
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 4: I'm blessed to have my brother and when we were

920
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 4: in the hole, we were in the hole together. When

921
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: we were trying to climb out. We are trying to

922
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 4: climb out together, and so make sure you have somebody

923
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 4: whatever that. I call it the Josh Alton dream Team.

924
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 4: I know you're gonna laugh because I'm in real estate,

925
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: but it consists of very important strategic people in my

926
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 4: life that get me where I need to be daily, monthly,

927
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Speaker 4: yearly and in life.

928
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Speaker 3: Keep your head up and have fun. You just got

929
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 3: to laugh every once in a while.

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Speaker 2: Brother. I love you so much for coming on. I'm

931
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Speaker 2: proud to be your brother, proud to be your teammate.

932
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Speaker 4: Man.

933
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Speaker 2: Ever, luckily, I guess I'm okay with Rosie freaking out

934
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Speaker 2: that you're in the gym.

935
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me on.

936
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: Seriously, man, I'm a fan of you as a person

937
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: and our friendship, and my wife has said hello.

938
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Speaker 3: You know, we've been through some and she loves thanks

939
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: for everything.

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00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: Man.

941
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: Thanks.

942
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: Sometimes in life you find out who your crew is, right,

943
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: and I always want to make sure I'm there for

944
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: my quest. I love your brother. Gosh, all men, thanks

945
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Speaker 2: for stopping buying and breakable