1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. Our number two The Sean Hannity Show. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Joe kancha Fox News contributor in for mister Hannity, and 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: I got some breaking newspaper. Oh this is huge. I mean, 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: if you thought this month since the election couldn't get 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: any better, well, hold my beer because the New York 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Times opinion calmness, Paul Krugman. Krugman, Krugman, who cares, he's 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: an ale. He is about to retire from The New 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: York Times. Yes, America loves it. I'm sticking my microphone 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: out the window right now. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: I have to ask Joe is he one of the 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: preemptive pardons from uh job? 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I just need to know, you know, inquiring minds. 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: That's a pretty you know, that's that's that's an excellent 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: inquiry by Linda there. Yeah, I mean, Biden's giving these 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: things out like emin M's at this point, so you 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: got to think that maybe, yeah, you know. 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: Come on, Biden's not giving anything out like Eminem, who's 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: been asleep for about six months. 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Well it's a very good point. Whoever's running Biden giving 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: out pot pardons, including Adams shift preemptively. Liz Cheney preemptively, Fauci, preemptively. 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: Mark Millie pres Shift just resigned too. Here they're saying 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: he's going for the Senate seat. 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: Didn't he win? I think it did. 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: But like you know, when he was doing his resignation 26 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: and going for the Senate seat, he had all that 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: money coming in from Hershawn, he knew that he was 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: going to get clear by Biden with all this stuff. 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Wow, it's all a fixed fight. Well, the swamp is 30 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: about to get a rude awakening call come January twentieth 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: when Donald Trump is sworn in. I think I'll be there, 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: by the way, which it better be warm. Washington can 33 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: be very hot in summer, very cold during the winter. 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: So I know I sound like a diva right now, 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: and go to stop before I get myself in trouble. 36 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: Here's your second big breaking news before we get to 37 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: our guest, David Showan, and that is that Eric Adams 38 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: is considering jumping ship from the Democratic Party and Republican. 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: A Republican in New York loveson as well, deep blue 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: New York, Linda. 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: I mean, the problem with Adams is Adams has a 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: sort of passed. And I think if the Democrat Party 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 2: was investigating me and had the FBI raiding my house, 44 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: I might switch parties too. 45 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Just seriously. Quote, my focus is the American people and 46 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: the people of New York City, and those who don't 47 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: like it, they would cancel me, and I say, cancel me. 48 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm for America, all right, Eric, Well, you know the 49 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: tent is very big, as you know. I mean, Trump 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: bought in Elon Musk and Tulsea Gabbard and Bobby Kennedy Junior. 51 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: I could go on, but it's a big tent. And 52 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: Eric Adams, Republican mayor of New York, boy, that would 53 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: just be the ultimate sting for Democrats in this deep 54 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: a blue New York, which is not so deep blue anymore. 55 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, what eleven points he turned New York from 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: the last election, eleven points he turned New Jersey from 57 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: the last election. I'm telling you twenty twenty eight, New 58 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Jersey will be a swing state in New York. You're 59 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: probably going to see jd Vance or whoever the Republican 60 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: nominee campaign in New York the way Donald Trump did, 61 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: because maybe it can be had. Maybe people are tired 62 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: of the Democratic party, but quite frankly, outside of hey, 63 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: we want abortion on demand, any time, anywhere, what is 64 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: their message these days? Because you can't run on the 65 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: whole nobody is above the law crap anymore, So I 66 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: guess that's basically all they got. Anyway, before I go 67 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: off on a tangent, we have to bring in our 68 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: next guest, because this case is just dominating the news 69 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: cycle today as far as Daniel Penny and the fact 70 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: that his man Shorter, a manslaughter excuse me charge against 71 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: him has been dismissed, but now the judge is telling 72 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: the jury to deliberate on a lesser charge. That's not 73 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: going to happen today. It's going to happen on Monday. 74 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: So without further ado, let's bring in David Shoan, who Linda, 75 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: who obviously is our great producer here, said that this 76 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: is absolutely the best person to talk about this because well, David, 77 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is your wheelhouse. So I'm just going 78 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: to hand and the floor over to you. From a 79 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: legal perspective, what if the jury or the judge, what 80 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: if the jury can't also agree on the lesser charge? 81 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: Then is that if for this case, or walk me 82 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: through it like I'm a four year old. 83 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, you know, a four year old. 84 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: They're terrific, but they yeah, that should be it's the case. 85 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: But frankly, my view would be it should be. It's 86 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: the case. Now, I'll tell you why. The judge instructed 87 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: the jury at the very beginning of the jury charges 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 4: that they cannot consider any lesser included offense. This is called, 89 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 4: you know, criminally negligent homicide would be what's considered a 90 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 4: lesser included defense offense of the homicide charge, the second 91 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: degree manslaughter under New York law. But I can give 92 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: you the funeral code numbers that anybody wants to look 93 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 4: them up. But manslaughter has won twenty five point fifteen, 94 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: Criminally negligent homicide one twenty five point ten. But they're 95 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: different states of mind. And so the judge told them 96 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: when they began the delierations that unless they come to 97 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: a unanimous decision on manslaughter in the second degree, they 98 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 4: cannot consider the lesser included charges. And I think that's right. 99 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: So consider this. You have a divided jury now on 100 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: the manslaughter charge. That means they can't agree on what 101 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 4: the state of mind is. Manslaughter requires defendant in a 102 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: case like this to have acted recklessly. New York Penal 103 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 4: Law fifteen point oh five to three defines that as 104 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: being aware that your actions presented a substantial risk, all right, 105 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 4: So they could agree on that state of mind. For 106 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: criminally negligent homicide, it's the opposite in a sense that 107 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: you didn't perceive that your actions caused a substantial risk. 108 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: So if they can't agree on the first charge, that 109 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: means some of them thought he was aware his conduct 110 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: presented an actual risk of death or serious Biley harm. 111 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: How can they agree then with the on the second 112 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: that he wasn't aware. I think that in the case 113 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: like this, the charges should be dismissed. The jury was 114 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: deadlocked on the main charge, I think that should be 115 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: the end of it. And this is after, by the way, 116 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 4: the judge gave an Allen charge or a dynamite charge, 117 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 4: which I also severely object to. In just about every case, 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: it's a coercive charge. It tells the jury listen, you know, 119 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: go back, rethink it. That part of its innocuous, But 120 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: it also tells them they've got a jury duty at 121 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 4: the end of the day to come to a decision 122 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: if they possibly can they how to rethink it, maybe 123 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: set aside their objection and all of that. Well, this 124 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 4: jury didn't buckle, and whoever's holding out for you know, 125 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 4: not guilty, stuck with it. In my view, and again 126 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: this is not a legal opinion. This is just my view, Daniels. 127 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: Penny never should have been charged criminally. We have the videos, 128 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: we have testimony from the other people were there. There's 129 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: another guy who helped him. He perceived a real risk 130 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: of death or serious bodily injury to other passengers here, 131 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: and he stepped up and he defended all of the 132 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: other passengers, and in his view, he neutralized this fellow. 133 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: Remember when he was examined by the police officers, he 134 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: didn't even know the guy was dead. Anyway, that's a long, 135 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: long winded. 136 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: David shan And by the way, I didn't give you 137 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: your proper introduction. Civil liberties attorney and former counsel for 138 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: President Trump. You're not alone in that opinion. By the way, 139 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: I know Linda and I certainly are in agreement with you, 140 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: as does anybody who has you know, a functioning brain 141 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: when when you hear about this case, or a guy 142 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: just jumps in tries to help somebody on a subway, 143 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: and now you know he could go away for life 144 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: for doing something so brave. Former military By the way, 145 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Linda jump in, I know you had some questions for 146 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: David as well. 147 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, David, I know you and I were talking, you know, 148 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: earlier and about the Allen charge, which I agree with you. 149 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: It seems almost manipulative and coercive, as you said, to 150 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: try to stay to the jury. 151 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: No, we don't like the answer you came up with. 152 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: Go back and figure out one that's more, you know, 153 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: in line with our ideology, right, especially when you see 154 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: the prosecutor obviously you know she let this other person 155 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: who murdered this unarmed elderly Asian professor who was just 156 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: getting some money out of his ATM. We've got a 157 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: history of no bail crimes under brag. I mean, just 158 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: look at the four legal immigrants who beat the crap 159 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: out of our police officers in the middle of Times 160 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: Square let out with no bail. 161 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: We've got an illegal. 162 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: Immigrant raping a thirteen year old in broad daylight, tying 163 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: her to a tree and filming it. 164 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: Where's that guy? Nobody knows. And now we've got your case. 165 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: I know you've been covering a case and representing a 166 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: young Jewish person who was attacked, and it's Bragg's prosecutors 167 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: that are allowing that guy to go free and even 168 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: giving him benefits within prison, you know, to give him 169 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: better representation. I mean, it just seems like such a 170 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: miscarriage of justice. And one more point before I let 171 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: you respond, two months before the Penny case, there was 172 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: another altercation on the a train between two minority people. 173 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: Who were fighting. One was armed, one was not. 174 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: The one who was not was able to get the weapons, 175 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: defend himself and kill the person who was the attacker. 176 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: He's not serving any criminal time, he has no charges, 177 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: no charges were brought against him, whatsoever. What's the difference 178 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: in those two cases? 179 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: Can you tell me politics? I mean, that's the problem. First, 180 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: I'm so excited to get to talk to you on 181 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 4: the airline, the same way. You always have such great 182 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: opinions and anyways, think everything seeks so clearly anyway, No, 183 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 4: it's politics, and that's the problem. When the integrity of 184 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: the office has been uprooted, like Alan Bragg has done 185 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 4: with this offer, then the public can't believe in the 186 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: injustice in any prosecution they bring there always seems to 187 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 4: be something behind it. I mean, the case brought from 188 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 4: a merchant against President Trump is of course the epitome 189 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 4: of it. But you're right, it depends on who the 190 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: victim its, depends on you know, what time of day 191 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: it is, apparently, or which prosecutor is assigned. In the 192 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 4: case that I have that you mentioned, the young Jewish 193 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: boy was out walking in Times Square was attacked by 194 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 4: a group of Arab Americans and brutally. I mean, it 195 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 4: could have killed him, all on video and so on, 196 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: and it was like pulling peace to get album Bragg's 197 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 4: office to even prosecute the case. When he did, he 198 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: gave a slap on the wrist of most of them, 199 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 4: including the one who said he would do it again. 200 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 4: So it's terrible to see this. His office then wrote 201 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: a letter to the prison minimizing what one of the 202 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: worst actors had done so that he could get a 203 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 4: better placement in prison. It's just outrageous. And in this case, 204 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: you know, again it's politics all the way. How many 205 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: people are riding the subway these days in New York 206 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: who are scared to death. They're worried about the next 207 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 4: attack or the next you know, violent episode to have 208 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 4: a guy like Daniel Penny, who, in my view, really 209 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: responded like a hero. And that's his background. He's also 210 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: now being sued by mister Neely's family in addition to this, 211 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: but of course the criminal charges are the most serious. 212 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: I'm very disappointed in the case. 213 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: Ken. 214 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 4: It's easy to be outside or Monday morning quarterback, but 215 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 4: I'm very disappointed he didn't testify. 216 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: He had. 217 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 4: With every New Yorker. 218 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: And I'm talking to David Sean. Sorry about that, Linda. 219 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: I was about to say a former councilor to President Trump. 220 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: A next question, Lenda, I'll defer to you because your 221 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: first one was excellent. 222 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know to that point. 223 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: Right, So we have somebody who has a criminal background, right, 224 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: we have somebody who we know has a long laundry 225 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: list of using drugs, being on the subways, harassing people. 226 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: You know, he's been arrested many times. He's homeless, he's 227 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: living on the streets. Anybody who lives in New York 228 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: City and takes the subway every day like I do, 229 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: you're on these subways. They are filled with homeless people. 230 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 2: They are disgusting, They are dirty, and the homeless they 231 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: consider that they're home. Quite literally, you are in their 232 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: space even though you're paying to get on, they're riding 233 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: for free, and nobody stops them because there's no accountability. 234 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: So my point to you, and my question to you, David, 235 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: as somebody who you know is a civil liberties attorney 236 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 2: and kind of knows this stuff in and out, what 237 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: standing would Jordan Neely's family even have to sue Daniel Penny. 238 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: This wasn't nefarious, this wasn't wilful. This was an act 239 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 2: of self defense with a ton of witnesses. 240 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: Right, But that's why he should lose the case. But 241 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: you know he's going to bring it because his son 242 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: is dead and there were criminal charges. And by the way, 243 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: if if Daniel Penny is convicted, then the Neely family 244 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: is going to argue they're entitled to summary judgment because 245 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 4: the jury has convicted him beyond a reasonable doubt of 246 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: a homicide of some variety in the killing of their son, 247 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: and so if it's criminally negligent homicie, they're gonna say, well, 248 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 4: the standard for criminal negligence has already been proven. That's 249 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: the standard New York that fines under fifteen point oh 250 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: five to four that he failed to perceive there was 251 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 4: a substantial risk that his actions could have resulted in death. 252 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: They'll charge that civilly as negligence, and they last for 253 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: summary judgment because in the standard is lest it's you know, 254 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 4: a civil standard rather than the criminal standard. But yeah, 255 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: I mean it's anybody could do anybody for anything. But 256 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: it's very dangerous. You know, he can face four years 257 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 4: in prison if he's convicted of the criminal negligent homicide. 258 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: It's just it's the criminal process is simply not the 259 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 4: way to deal with the situation. By every person's account, 260 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: and including the video, this fellow came on to the 261 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 4: train and presented a tremendous threat. 262 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: And was looking for the fight, was looking to do harm, 263 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: was looking to do ill will. And to Joe's point earlier, 264 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: you know, Mayor Adams, all kidding aside, has definitely had 265 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: a little bit of a change of heart from you know, 266 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: his earlier days when he was a police officer, when 267 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: he was a detective, when he oversaw the police force, 268 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: and he was quoted in the New York Post and 269 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: he said, you know, those. 270 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 3: Passengers were afraid. I've been on the subway system. 271 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: I don't know the last time, you know, whatever her 272 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: name is, dan fra Yourn or whatever, you know, I 273 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: don't know how often she rides the subway. But he's like, 274 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: you know, I have wrestled people on the subway, people 275 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: that are on drugs, people that are under the influence. 276 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: They have superhuman strength. You have no idea what's going on. 277 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: And not only that, Daniel Penny did not act alone. 278 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: He had all of these women and elderly people on 279 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: the train not knowing what's going on, and he had 280 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: somebody else jump in and help them. I mean, they're 281 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: acting like he sought this out when it's really the 282 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: other way around. In your professional opinion, do you think 283 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: that there's going to be a hung jury across the border. 284 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: Do you think they're going to come back and try 285 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: to assuage the judge and the prosecutor because they think 286 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: there's going to be ideological political, you know, retribution to 287 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: them as the jewelry or are. 288 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 4: They beaten up now by the judge after getting an 289 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: all in charge because they do they they think they're 290 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 4: being punished because they couldn't agree on the first charge. 291 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: I worry about that. I worry it has individual effects 292 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: on the Criminal Division homicide and they see this, I'd 293 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: like to go home. As a compromise, you need one 294 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 4: juror who's willing to stand up and say absolutely not. 295 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 4: We need a hero like this on the train. It's 296 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: tragic that it ended in anybody's death. He didn't intend 297 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 4: that for sure, and that's why he was in charge 298 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 4: with an intentional killing. But he didn't even believe to 299 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: kill the guy. He thought he had subdued him. But yes, 300 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: I worry that that's what's going to happen, and I 301 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: worry unfortunately that's masturbate about the fact that he didn't testify. 302 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: I think a jury wants to hear in a case 303 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: like this, there's not a question about whether the person's 304 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: dead or whether you're the person who did it, the 305 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 4: question of what the circumstances were, what your state of 306 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 4: mind was. I think they had to hear from Daniel Perry. 307 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: You're right, You're absolutely right, David Well said. 308 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: I could not agree more. All I know is this 309 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: subway crimes of jumped nearly twenty five percent from this 310 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: time last year, so this is happening all the time. 311 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: We need more heroes like mister Penny and not being convicted, 312 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: or at least the attempts to convict that are going 313 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: on here right now. It's disgusting anyway, Joe Conscient, Linda, 314 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: thanks so much for jumping in there. David Sean, thank 315 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: you so much as well. Great insight. Joe Conscience filling 316 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: in for Sean. Hannity back with more in just a moment, 317 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: Joe Kanta in for mister Hannity. Linda tells me that 318 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: there have been some complaints to our number eight hundred 319 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: and ninety four one Sean eight hundred nine four one 320 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: Sea n that apparently I was going on this riff 321 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: before when we had what's called the bump music, which 322 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: is what you just heard when you come out of 323 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: a breakup. Producer soundboard op. They choose what song is 324 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: going to be played, or you could as a host, 325 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: like make your own request, which I've done before. And 326 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: I was saying how great the Eagles was because I 327 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: thought in the City was an Eagle song. No, I'm 328 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: being killed apparently on the lines right now because it's 329 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: a Joe Walsh song. Joe Walsh was in the Eagles, 330 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: so you know, this is like getting a Genesis and 331 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: a phil Collins saw mixed up people, all right? Are Blenda, 332 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Carlisle and the Go Gos or whoever's gone solo? Right, 333 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Paul McCartney and the Beatles. I don't know, all right, 334 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry that I heard Joe Walsh's voice and 335 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: assumed it was the Eagles when it was actually one 336 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: of his solo ventures ventures out into the wilderness. So 337 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: you got me, all right, And yes, Pete hag Seth, 338 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: I got cold for that in the last hour Landon 339 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: which you know, apparently. 340 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: The only thing I will say about our audience is 341 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: they are listening and they are paying attention constructive criticism. 342 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: So let me ask you, Lin, do you go Caribbean 343 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: or Caribbean? 344 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: Oh God, you don't want to go down the words 345 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: thing with me, because I have this fight all the 346 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: time with people. I say Caribbean, Yeah, I go, I 347 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: go Caribbean. I know I'm Caribbean. Some people say resciprose. 348 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: What is it? 349 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: Aunt or aunt? I say aunt? Sometimes you yeah, I 350 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: say aunt. 351 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: Aunt sounds like ant. 352 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: But but in Philly, where I'm from, they say aunt. 353 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: I say homage. Sean says. Sean says homage. 354 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: What was the other word we had Jason, I can't remember. 355 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is homage, that's correct. 356 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: So homage is the word. 357 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: It's origin is France, so it's homage. And then you know, yeah, 358 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: so then he says it way nicer than me. 359 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: You say, like, not jaguar, but jaguar. 360 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: I say jaguar, right, some. 361 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: People say jaguar, but that would sound the people of 362 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: Jacksonville are very very insistent. You say Jaggie Wire, Jaggie Wire. 363 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. 364 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: Nobody's talking about them anyway, because there woke broke as 365 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: a joke. 366 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: So well, Pi jaguar, do you go target or Tar? 367 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 3: I say, but that's just. 368 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: That's the best, okay, So that's not really a thing. 369 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: Van Wick or van Wick. It's the van the van 370 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: Wick right along? 371 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Van not. 372 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't think we go wike on that one. Marshal's 373 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: or Marshall's. 374 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: Marshals who says Marshalls. 375 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: Well, then it sounds like you're shopping at like you know, 376 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: Saxs Fifth Avenue stops got like some you know, GRAVI 377 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: toss to it. 378 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: Right listen, if I need gravitas, I'm not going to Marshals. 379 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 3: Let's be honest. 380 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: Get good stuff it. 381 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 3: I love TJ Max. You're preaching to the choir. 382 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: I have the credit card, so you know I'm not 383 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: hating on anything really. 384 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: All right, well, yeah, go on about this on this 385 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: tangent all day. But uh, let's go to some calls, 386 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: shall we. And that is a full board. Wow, this 387 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: is on a lot of stations. It's it's showing right now. 388 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it local. All right, Let's go 389 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: to Gerard. He is in Manhattan. Yes, I know about 390 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: the song, Gerard, but you could lecture me on it 391 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: now because I can laugh at myself. I'm capable of this. 392 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 5: Go yes, Joe Kanta, you're a force, sir. You already 393 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 5: told the story about the about the Eagles and Joe 394 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 5: Walsh good yeah, Parsons to Belinda Carlisle and and those girls. 395 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. 396 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 5: And it wasn't then you said that you played in 397 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 5: the city. You didn't play in the city. 398 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: You played good to me. 399 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: Life's been good to me. I was going on Memverck. Look, dude, 400 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I broke forty a couple of years ago. 401 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: And then member, oh, we're gonna do this again to me, 402 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: aren't we? Yeah, yep, there it is. Well, so Geordan 403 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: like what happened with the Eagles because he is Glenn Fry, 404 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: Don Henley, Joe Walsh, they all can sing. Was it 405 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: just an ego thing that broke him up? I mean, 406 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: educate me on this or maybe you just don't know. 407 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 5: No, well, I would say it's an egle thing. But Joe, 408 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 5: the Eagles are great, but Joe Walsh is much cooler. 409 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: He's the coolest of the three, right, Like Henley is 410 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: a little squishy, right then Fry's okay. I don't know. 411 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: We're talking about like band that was like relevant like 412 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: fifty years ago, but they're still relevant. To my point though, 413 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: is you can still listen to the Eagles summer barbecue particularly, 414 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: and they just hit it completely. Do you want to 415 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: do any political stuff or just the Eagles thing? Uh? 416 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 5: No, I think President Trump the choice has been made, 417 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 5: and I think it's gonna be like the Roaring twenties 418 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 5: his time around. 419 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: I think you're right, Thanks you er for the call 420 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: in for the education. Yeah, I mean, look, he's got 421 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: to do four things, all right, it's really ten that 422 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: I think about it, But you want to go ten? 423 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: All right? I guess we could go with ten and 424 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: the first obviously, is to bring down the price of stuff, right, 425 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: And anybody who doubts that he can do that, well, 426 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: remember the inflation rate when Donald Trump left office was 427 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: one point four percent. I mean that's virtually non existent inflation, right, 428 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: So we know that he could do it again. And 429 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: then I have a whole list here in my book. 430 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, the book is called the Greatest 431 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: Comeback Ever Inside Donald Trump's Big Beautiful Campaign, unburdened by 432 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: what has been great title. I know you're gonna buy it. 433 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: Get it on pre order. You could go to my 434 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: Twitter feed at Joe Conca TV and see it there 435 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: as well. Go to Amazon. It's all there, and you 436 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: pre order it now. Maybe you give it as a 437 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: Christmas gifts, like, hey, the book's not going to be 438 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: here by Christmas, but it'll be here, you know, not 439 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: long after. And again the book just goes through everything. 440 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: It starts in Wildwood, New Jersey. Actually, because I was 441 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: actually on the Trump plane, which was very cool, is 442 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: kind of a funny story. So I reach out to 443 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign. I'm like, hey, you know, I decided 444 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: to write a book on the campaign, and I've never 445 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: been to a Trump rally before because it really doesn't 446 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: come to New Jersey all that often. So you know, 447 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: can I go to the one in Wildwood because I 448 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: used to go there as a kid, and then that 449 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: would be kind of wild They said sure, and we'll 450 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: range for transportation. I'm like, all right, getting an ober 451 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: this would be good because I have an accurate At 452 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: the time, it had two hundred and three thousand miles 453 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: on it and when it went over sixty he began 454 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: to shake. So I'm like, all right, driving all the 455 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: way down to the shore and that's basically exit zero. 456 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: When you go all the way down the Garden State Parkway, 457 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: you're talking like a two and a half three hour drive, 458 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: and then that's not even including traffic and all that nonsense. 459 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: So this was in mid May. They're like, okay, so 460 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna meet the Trump plane on the tarmac Atlaguardia Airport. 461 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm like the Trump plane. They're giving me that, all right, 462 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: this is access. I like this, So you know, I 463 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: get on there. They put me back with a secret 464 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: Service and a couple other reporters like in beds that 465 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: were there, and then Trump comes on and I hear 466 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: is that the Joe Conca and I turn around, I go, oh, 467 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: it's you. Like you know, I couldn't just say, oh, 468 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: mister President, it's a pleasure to meet you and thank 469 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: you for the ride, and no, I go, oh, it's you. 470 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: That's the only thing I could spit up. But he 471 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: laughed and found it funny. So we talked golf a 472 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: little bit, and then I said, hey, you know, this 473 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: beats the middle seat on Jet Blue, so I really 474 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: appreciate that. As he laughed, and he kind of get 475 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: twisted to the front of the planecause I wanted to 476 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: take off. So then I'm like, what kind of food's 477 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: gonna be on here? I mean, this is Trump. He 478 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: had Trump steaks, you know, Trump restaurants have like the 479 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: best food. And then a tray from Wendy's is placed 480 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: next to me. Everybody got Wendy's, no joke. I had 481 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: pictures of this. It is in the book. It was 482 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: a cheeseburger, tater tots, fries, and I believe it was 483 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: a coke, not diet coke, but regular coke. So that 484 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: was kind of cool. So then we flew all the 485 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: way down to Walldwood, but we didn't land in Wildwood. 486 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: What we did is. We went to Cape May and 487 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: then we kind of did like a U turn so 488 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: we could do a flyover back over the rally. You 489 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: see like one hundred thousand people down there, I mean 490 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: for as far as the eye can see. I don't 491 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: know what the final number was. I don't think anybody 492 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: could really tell. There wasn't exactly a turnstile, but it 493 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: was a lot eighty thousand, ninety thousand in New Jersey. 494 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, this is insane. So then they bring 495 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: me out to my seat and whom my next to, 496 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: but Lawrence Taylor. Now as a guy who used to 497 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: sack quarterbacks granted in high school, this was exciting stuff. 498 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: And Otis Anderson was with him as well. If you 499 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: know the New York Giants, he won the Super Bowl 500 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: MVP back in nineteen ninety one. I want to say 501 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: when they beat the Bills, and Otis is just enormous. 502 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: I mean I always thought all t wo'd be like 503 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: this big idea is but I would say, or was 504 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: a running back and he's the size of like two 505 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: people basically, So that was kind of cool. So then 506 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: like you know, we watched the rally and you know, 507 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm taking notes and all that fun stuff, and that's 508 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: where the book starts. And that's where I made an observation. 509 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: When I went home to my wife, I said, you 510 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: know what, I didn't feel like that was the safest place. 511 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: I swear to you, like with her is my witness, 512 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: because all I know is, and I picture the pictures 513 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: of this. By the way, there's a plane flying right 514 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: over the stage, like you know, not like you know, 515 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: a fire jet or anything like that, but it was 516 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: basically one of those types of planes that you see 517 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: at the Jersey Shore that usually carry the banners, and 518 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: this one was carrying a banner. But I'm like, why 519 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: is that even allowed remotely near where Donald Trump is speaking? 520 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: What if the pilot just suddenly decided to crash the 521 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: plane into the stage, Like I literally like was writing 522 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: this down in my notes. Then the amusement park was opened. 523 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: Right behind him, was all these rides going on, and 524 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: you heard people, you know, screaming as they do when 525 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: they go on rides that move kind of fast. I'm like, 526 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: is anybody screening those people that are going on those 527 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: rides because they're literally like going like right behind him 528 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: on the stage, and it would be a very clear shot, like, 529 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: these are all the things that I'm thinking of. And 530 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: then I'm looking up at the boardwalking There's hundreds of 531 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: people just walking back and forth. I'm like, is anybody 532 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: even because that's not too far away and you can 533 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: probably get a decent shot out, shot off and there's 534 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: no trees or anything, so you have a perfect line 535 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: of sight to the stage. Again, this is all before 536 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: July thirteenth. This was May eleventh, and I was thinking 537 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: all these things. So then on July thirteenth, and this 538 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: is another chapter in a book on Matt Fox were 539 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: about to go on the air for the big weekend show. 540 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: It was Katie Pavlos, Jason Chafitz, Smrando, Divine and Me 541 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: in the green room. And then we've watched witnessed on 542 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: the air the President getting shot, and you know, the 543 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: book goes through all the secret service breakdowns and everything, 544 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: Kamala then being inserted as the candidate, the summer of joy, hope, 545 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: streams and aspirations and all that media just I mean, 546 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: it was bad during Obama. This was infinitely worse. I 547 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: shared the stat before I'll share it again. ABC News 548 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: does a hundred stories on Kamala Harris when she becomes 549 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: a nominee. All one hundred, according to the Media Research Center, 550 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: found all one hundred were positive, All one hundred, not one. 551 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: In that train wreck of a campaign, with a train 552 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: wreck of a candidate, can they find one negative thing 553 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: to talk about? So that's how the media went. And 554 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: then we go through the McDonald's stop, we go through 555 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: the garbage comments. I was on the floor at Madison 556 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: Square Garden where I walked out. I said, Wow, that 557 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: was one heck of a rally. And then I watched 558 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: MSNBC and I see images of Nazis and they compared 559 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: Trump supporters to Nazi sympathizers, when in that arena there 560 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: are Israeli flags more than I've ever seen. So, you know, 561 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: I guess the Nazi also embraces the Israelis, because that 562 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: doesn't make a lot of sense. So we go through 563 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: that whole thing, We go through election night. The post 564 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: election meltdown is like three chapters in one. I mean, 565 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: that thing wrote itself, and then some so you're really 566 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: gonna love that. And then we're lining up. We hope 567 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: an interview with President Trump, which I'm told will happen, 568 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: just a matter of finding the date in the time, 569 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: because the guy is very busy. I think he's over 570 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: in fact in France right now, where he actually is 571 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: now basically the commander in chief. Right. You got Joe 572 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: Biden falling asleep literally at you know, during during that 573 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: last conference that he was in overseas and he fell asleep, 574 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: not for like five ten seconds. I get that when 575 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: you're bored, right, even you know, at a younger age. 576 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: This was two full minutes and the cameras just fixed 577 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: on him. We're like, this guy is still the president 578 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: for the next forty three days. What the hell? Thank you? 579 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: Yet there it is and there was even snoring, which 580 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: you know that's that's a sign of sleep apnea, I believe. 581 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: So you got Biden sleeping and Kamala Harris. You could 582 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: find Edward Snowden all right, You'll find Liz Cheney pullside 583 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: at mar A Lago before you find Kamala Harris right now, 584 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: because she made that one speech on video where she 585 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: sounded how do we put this overserved? Right? And then 586 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: we haven't heard from her since because so where's she 587 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: She's still the vice president? Have we forgotten about that? 588 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: So who the hell's running the country? Anyway. So that's 589 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: that's the book, and you're gonna love it the greatest 590 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 1: comeback ever. Buy it wherever you buy books, all right. 591 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: So lower inflation, that's Number one. That's what Trump has 592 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: to do. First, to extend the Trump Tax institute, no 593 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on 594 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: social security. Bring down the corporate tax rate from twenty 595 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: one percent to fifteen percent. Good, make America safe again. 596 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: Pressure these rogue liberal das to enforce the laws on 597 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: the books while offering financial incentives to increase police recruitment. 598 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: I think we could all agree on that, all right. 599 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: We make the America safer again, because right now more 600 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: people are moving out of San Francisco, Chicago, New York, 601 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: Minneapolis for places like Florida, Tennessee, and Texas, North Carolina, 602 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: South Carolina, Georgia because of the crime problem, and obviously 603 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: taxes aren't helping there as well. Number four, Secure the 604 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: border very simple. Mexico and Canada have to pitch in. 605 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: They already are. Trump's already threatening him with tariffs. You 606 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: already got Trueau flew down to mar A Lago. I 607 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: didn't think somebody could physically get there so fast. But 608 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: there is already talking with Trump. The Mexican president. Seems 609 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: like at first she was resisting going to play ball 610 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: because they don't have the leverage we do. Trump knows it. 611 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: Finish the wall with the help of Congress this time, 612 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: reinstitute remain in Mexico and catch release. Seems pretty simple. 613 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: And it's going to have and do not mess with 614 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: Tom Homan when he begins mass deportation that I know. 615 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: Then next, reduce federal spending two trillion. I think that's 616 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: a good number. Doze will do it. Elon the veik end, 617 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: the wars in Ghazi and Ukraine, dismantled the Department of Education, 618 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: lower gas prices via drill baby drill, voter ID required 619 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: in all fifty states. Oh, and make it illegal for 620 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: biological men to compete against biological women. I think we 621 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: all can agree on that if we are seeing and sober. 622 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: This is Joe Kanca in for Sean Hannity, back with 623 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: more in just a moment.