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Speaker 1: Debate Day. Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thursday, June twenty, seventh edition of The Clay and Buck

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Speaker 2: Show kicks off. Right now. We are hours away from

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Speaker 2: the big night that we've been preparing for for weeks.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: We know that Donald Trump will be squaring off with

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden on stage. Will Biden be able to turn

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Speaker 2: around his disastrous numbers? Will he be able to speak

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Speaker 2: in intelligible sentences? Will he manage to stand upright for

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Speaker 2: ninety minutes without the use of a walker or numerous

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Speaker 2: staffers to steady and assist him. There are big questions

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Speaker 2: tonight in this presidential debate that we will get answers

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Speaker 2: to one way or another. A number of polls coming in,

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Speaker 2: new data for us to look through about how things

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Speaker 2: are going for Joe Biden at this point, which we're

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Speaker 2: about to dive into.

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Speaker 3: It.

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Speaker 2: Also tell you our friend Alex Berenson will be joining

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Speaker 2: us later on in the program. I know that it

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Speaker 2: was disappointing for so many of us the Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: decision on and I know it was a standing issue.

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Speaker 2: But the standing issue effectively means that for the foreseeable

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Speaker 2: the government's lesson is just make sure you suppress and

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Speaker 2: censor speech a lot and do it behind closed doors,

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Speaker 2: and we can't figure out who did it, so then

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Speaker 2: nothing happens. But Berenson has also got a suit that

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Speaker 2: is making its way through the courts. He'll talk to

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Speaker 2: us about that that he thinks he has the standing

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Speaker 2: issue covered, so we might get clarity on that sooner

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Speaker 2: than many would have anticipated. So everything right now though,

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Speaker 2: in terms of the news of the day focused in

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Speaker 2: on the Biden debate with Trump, and we've got a

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Speaker 2: few Supreme Court decisions that came down today. Nothing earth

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Speaker 2: chattering will bring you up to speed on those. Clay

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Speaker 2: can do the legal legal thing and will break down

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Speaker 2: what those rulings were, but nothing that really makes anybody,

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Speaker 2: you know, jump out of bed this morning. Nothing too

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Speaker 2: important really, which means that the big decision.

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Speaker 1: Probably coming down tomorrow on.

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Speaker 2: The issue of presidential immunity, although it could be delayed

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Speaker 2: until next week. If it comes down, Clay, while I'm

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Speaker 2: be very I'll be very sad, although that will kind

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Speaker 2: of I don't know, there'll be some kind of synchronicity

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Speaker 2: to that, you know, I'm doing my judicial service while

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Speaker 2: the judiciary decides to drop a decision that could change

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Speaker 2: the election. All right, let's start with this big stuff,

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Speaker 2: though the state of play going into the debate tonight

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Speaker 2: will dive into more of the policies. We also want

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Speaker 2: to hear from all of you on this stuff, so

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Speaker 2: be sure you're calling in and emailing us on the

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Speaker 2: VIP email address. The reality, Clay is that eight silver

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Speaker 2: of five twenty eight fame of New York Times stats

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Speaker 2: guy formerly. He says that Trump has got a sixty

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Speaker 2: five point seven percent chance of winning right now, so

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Speaker 2: a solid odds on favorite to win the presidential election.

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Speaker 2: New New York Times Siena poll has Trump up three

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Speaker 2: among likely voters on the eve of this or on

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Speaker 2: things can change and all of that. Trump has never

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Speaker 2: led before like this, not in twenty sixteen, not in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. He is in a better position by the

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Speaker 2: in his favor right now. How can the Biden regime

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Speaker 2: not be freaking out at this point?

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Speaker 1: They should be.

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Speaker 4: And here is my big thesis, as we ready for

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Speaker 4: our world is going.

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Speaker 1: To be watching. I don't think it's gonna matter.

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Speaker 4: And I understand everybody out there who is saying, oh

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Speaker 4: even metaphorically. I think what's going to happen is we're

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Speaker 4: all going to come in tomorrow and we're gonna be

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Speaker 4: talking about the debate with you for three hours, and

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Speaker 4: you're all gonna head out for your July fourth holiday

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Speaker 4: think everybody has made up their mind already about both

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Speaker 4: argument for why that is. Buck, you heard a lot

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Speaker 4: their minds about both of these guys. That's my thesis. Now,

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Speaker 4: what do you think as we sit here on debate day? Finally,

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that you're going to have a

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Speaker 2: So it's not like we're in the seventies or the

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Speaker 2: And that's why also everyone's like, oh, what if they

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Speaker 2: give Biden the question?

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Speaker 1: We all know what the questions are gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not even sure it would be a help

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Speaker 1: Like, not a joke. You know, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: So you know, I don't expect this to be knockout

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Speaker 2: I think that people will come away from this there's

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Speaker 2: You know, do presidential debates matter? I mean, look the

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see. I think they matter if

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Speaker 4: If we didn't have two incumbents effectively running, I think

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Speaker 4: it would matter, but forty percent of America is going

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because this is kind of like the super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: Interesting right the way that fans and really, if you're there.

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Speaker 2: Is no scoreboard. The scoreboard is whatever you make it

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Speaker 2: no matter what happens, right. I also think that this

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. I think that because of what has

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Speaker 2: care who you are. If somebody through their proxies and

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Speaker 2: their henchmen, this is always thinking.

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Speaker 1: Though Joe Biden has nothing to do with me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, please, Like we're not all children. We know

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Speaker 2: what's going on here. If someone's henchmen are trying to

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Care who you are.

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Speaker 2: I think Trump has has every right to be furious

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Speaker 2: know what I mean? This is not this is good.

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Speaker 1: This is good? When do you Rony Rodney didn't like

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Speaker 2: Because I don't even think that Donald Trump hates Hillary.

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Speaker 1: You don't get to be the I'm defending democracy because.

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Speaker 2: Of Jay six people, and then you're trying to prosecute

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Speaker 2: That seems like a red flag. You could say, you know,

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: So I think the structural aspects of this may make

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Speaker 2: And in the same way that a lot of people

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Speaker 2: have made the argument, I think, remember, you've made it too,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's a sound one that as much

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Speaker 2: as we all enjoyed the Trump Twitter era, him not

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Speaker 2: being on Twitter has probably because a lot of times

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Speaker 2: it would feed into Democrat narratives in the news media

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Speaker 2: and then they would focus on, you know, some aspect

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Speaker 2: of what he said, not even what Trump was trying

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Speaker 2: to say, but you know, they would focus on he

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Speaker 2: made fun of somebody for being ugly or whatever, and

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Speaker 2: you know, as Trump does, and that would become the

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Speaker 2: news cycle for twenty four hours. I think that this

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Speaker 2: time around, there's a very good chance that Trump's inability,

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Speaker 2: like the structure of this debate, the inability to do

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Speaker 2: a lot of cross talk and a lot of interrupting.

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably a Trump's benefit, as much as

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Speaker 2: I think he would love to just mix it up

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Speaker 2: and everything, I think that the more people here Biden,

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Speaker 2: the weaker Biden's case. Sounds like I would I would

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Speaker 2: think it will end up sounding and beyond that, I

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Speaker 2: think that if you have Trump just tone, just just

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Speaker 2: tuned down a little bit, you know, from eleven to

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Speaker 2: like a nine on the dial, is probably for the best.

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Speaker 4: The other thing, I would say, Trump's leading. I don't

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Speaker 4: know that we've ever seen a Trump presidential debate when

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Speaker 4: he's been in the house money position. He was trailing Hillary,

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Speaker 4: he was trailing Biden. He's never entered a debate as

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Speaker 4: the guy that's in the lead in the polls. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: the best and most magnanimous version of Trump, it appears

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Speaker 4: to me, is when he's in.

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Speaker 1: The money, so to speak.

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Speaker 4: I think we might get a very presidential version of

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Speaker 4: Trump because he doesn't feel like he's scrambling and trying

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Speaker 4: to make up a deficit. Just to think about in

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Speaker 4: the back of your mind, he's winning and if you're winning,

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Speaker 4: you don't have to take big risks and you don't

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Speaker 4: have to take big swings.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that also Trump the warm charming Trump, which

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Speaker 2: is a very real thing that anybody who's met him,

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Speaker 2: knows him, even interviewed him, has experienced warm charming Trump

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Speaker 2: up there diffuses a little bit or deflects some of

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Speaker 2: the scurriless you know, you're a convicted pellon attacks, right,

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Speaker 2: if he's the guy who's like, hey, America, we all

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Speaker 2: remember I did a great job. It was amazing. You

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Speaker 2: remember this guy stinks at his job. Let's just make things.

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Speaker 2: Let's make America great again. Let's make it better for everybody.

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Speaker 2: And while if Biden tries to make it into this,

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Speaker 2: you're a convicted i mean convicted felon, convicted of what. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of someone being a convicted felon before

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Speaker 2: where you can't just say what exactly is he convicted of,

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Speaker 2: Like there's not a crime to even cite, which I

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Speaker 2: think tells you everything you need to know about the

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Speaker 2: convicted felons. It's business records misdemeanor, business records case. That's

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Speaker 2: what he's convicted of.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And also to your point, Buck, there are two. Remember

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Speaker 4: it's a lot of times not the punch, it's the CounterPunch.

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Speaker 4: There's two pretty good comebacks on convicted felon. Your son's

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Speaker 4: a convicted felon of actual crimes is a real CounterPunch.

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Speaker 4: The other one is Trump can say to Biden, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the Department of Justice charged me with crimes because they

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Speaker 4: believe my brain works and they're afraid of what I

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Speaker 4: might do in office. Your own Department of Justice said

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Speaker 4: that your brain doesn't work well enough to be charged

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Speaker 4: with crimes which you clearly committed to me. Those are

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Speaker 4: really devastating counterpunches that Biden opens himself up to if

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Speaker 4: he goes after the conviction not to mention, if he's

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Speaker 4: bragging about the convicted felon. It also opens the door

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Speaker 4: to Trump saying, yeah, you're afraid of me. Your Department

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Speaker 4: of Justice is trying to put me in prison Like

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Speaker 4: that's I don't know how Biden plays that. I want

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Speaker 1: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 1: a lot of it with the Sunday Hang. Join Clay

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Speaker 4: Let me hit you with some data, Buck, I put

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Speaker 4: up a question, will you watch the Trump Biden debate tonight?

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Speaker 4: Just add on Twitter x whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 4: The result stun me. What do you think the audience?

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Speaker 4: Ten thousand people have voted so far. What do you

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Speaker 4: think the audience said? On my Twitter feed in response

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Speaker 4: to that question? What would you expect the numbers to be?

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Speaker 1: Uh? I think eighty percent are going to watch the

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Speaker 1: debate tonight. Only sixty percent said yes. Wow.

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Speaker 4: Stunning to me. I thought it was going to be

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Speaker 4: like ninety five to five. I thought everybody out there

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Speaker 4: would be watching. The reason why I bring this up

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Speaker 4: I got a couple of different data points to hit

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Speaker 4: with you. Mike Muldehill is a super smart Fox Sports

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Speaker 4: employee who goes into all the data and analytics and

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Speaker 4: can tell you all the time, Hey, if the Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl has these individuals involved, this is what's likely to

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Speaker 4: be watched. Hey, the World Cup's coming up, this is

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Speaker 4: what people are going to watch. He tweeted something interesting

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Speaker 4: yesterday that I thought would hit that I would hit

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Speaker 4: you with we're all talking about Hey, everybody's gonna be watching.

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Speaker 4: He actually says he thinks less people are going to

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Speaker 4: watch this debate than watched in twenty sixteen and in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty. And here's the argument he makes. He says

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Speaker 4: that there will be lower viewing because based on the

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Speaker 4: news ratings, there seems to be fatigue with the candidates.

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Speaker 4: That is, people know Trump, they know Biden, they don't

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Speaker 4: particularly go all in some aer schedule, less people watch,

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Speaker 4: and the traditional decline of television viewing in general, and

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Speaker 4: that he thinks it's going to be substantially less than

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Speaker 4: would have watched in sixteen and twenty.

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Speaker 1: Just putting that.

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Speaker 4: Out there because it will be intriguing to see how

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Speaker 4: many people are actually paying attention this early second part

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Speaker 4: of this gambling markets. Trump is in a commanding lead

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Speaker 4: right now, not just in the not just in the

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Speaker 4: overall you know, sort of universe of who's going to

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Speaker 4: win this election. But listen to some of these. Listen

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Speaker 4: to some of these data points on states. Trump now

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Speaker 4: has surged into a lead in Pennsylvania and the gambling markets,

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Speaker 4: a lead in Wisconsin at a new high. He has

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Speaker 4: a seventy two percent gambling chance to win Nevada, which

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Speaker 4: is a state he lost by three points, Arizona sixty

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Speaker 4: seven percent chance to win, Georgia seventy four percent chance

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Speaker 4: to win, and North Carolina eighty three percent chance to win.

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Speaker 4: These are in live gambling markets. These are all brand

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Speaker 4: new highs as money. This is people putting their actual

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Speaker 4: money in, are pouring in. One more data point, I

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Speaker 4: want to hit you with the men versus women. According

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Speaker 4: to the Quinnipiac poll, men are voting for Trump plus

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Speaker 4: twenty two, women are voting for Biden plus thirteen. So

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Speaker 4: that is a what is that a thirty five point

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Speaker 4: gap between how men are voting and how women are voting.

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Speaker 4: Is that just a abortion If it is, Trump has

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Speaker 4: an opportunity, I think to address the abortion issue to

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Speaker 4: people who think that he is going to, you know,

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Speaker 4: put him in chains like Handmaid's Tale, by just saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: it's a state related issue.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: I do think he has an opportunity to make some

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Speaker 4: inroads with women. I don't think Biden's got a lot

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Speaker 4: of opportunity with men. How would you assess that gender

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Speaker 4: imbalance that's in the Quinnipiac poll that just came out yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think a part of it is the media's

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Speaker 2: portrayal of Donald Trump is has been a what are

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Speaker 2: we now on a year drumbeat of he's a misogynist,

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Speaker 2: and you know, they didn't he just someone had do

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Speaker 2: an interview with him where he talked about how beautiful

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift is.

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Speaker 1: Did you see that?

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Speaker 2: You know, He's like, she's very beautiful, I mean really beautiful,

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Speaker 2: beautiful Taylor Swift. I think that there are there are

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Speaker 2: some women who just they don't like Trump's ways. They

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Speaker 2: I think it for them is more just who he

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Speaker 2: is as a person. Certainly I mean, this is an

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Speaker 2: addition to what you said, which is the abortion fear

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Speaker 2: mongering that is out there. It's clearly fear mongering. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: there are more abortions that happened the year after Roe v.

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Speaker 2: Wade was overturned than the year before. So this hasn't

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Speaker 2: you know. In twenty twenty two, I think they were

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Speaker 2: able to make people more afraid, you know, that they

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to get an abortion in the eighth

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Speaker 2: month of a pregnancy or something. And now because of

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Speaker 2: the state laws in different places, I don't see that playing.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that being as easy for them to

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Speaker 2: do as it was before. So the gender gap, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's a that's a very big that's a

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Speaker 2: meaty topic. It's a big question. I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of women, unfortunately, have been encouraged by whatever third wave

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Speaker 2: feminism or whatever wave we're in to think of themselves

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Speaker 2: as indirect competition with men, and to act like men,

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Speaker 2: and to conduct themselves, whether it's in terms of their

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Speaker 2: life aspirations or in terms of their you know, intimacy,

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Speaker 2: habits with the opposite sex like men.

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Speaker 1: And this is all not a good idea for society.

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Speaker 2: Generally speaking, to try to act like men. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a bad idea, but people don't want to be

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Speaker 2: told that. And the Democrat Party tells women, you know,

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Speaker 2: you make seventy seven cents on the dollar.

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Speaker 1: That's a lie. It's just not true.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's statistically absurd if you break it down,

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Speaker 2: but people who you know, the real data would be,

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Speaker 2: that's a interesting claus You look at married women versus

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Speaker 2: unmarried women. Actually, married women tend to be much more Republican.

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Speaker 2: Unmarried women tend to be much more Democrat. And you know,

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Speaker 2: that's where you can start to parse why is that

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Speaker 2: the case? And then also, college educated women are not

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Speaker 2: particularly pro I'm being gentle. They do not tend to

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Speaker 2: like Trump very much by the numbers. I know, we

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Speaker 2: have college educated women listening who say, well, I love Trump,

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Speaker 2: but generally now, actually that's not a strong.

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Speaker 1: Demographic for him.

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Speaker 2: Uh but yeah, I mean men, men have been going

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Speaker 2: Republican for a long time. Now that this is so

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Speaker 2: so you've opened I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That we've seen thirty five point difference, and you know,

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Speaker 4: you break it down by race. Uh, white men are

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Speaker 4: going to vote for Trump according to this Quinnipiac poll.

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Speaker 4: That again, I just find all this data when you

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Speaker 4: can actually dive into it, presuming that it's going to

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Speaker 4: be accurate. White men support Trump sixty six to twenty nine,

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Speaker 4: white women forty eight forty eight Trump Biden dead even.

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Speaker 4: White men plus thirty seven for Trump, white women dead even.

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Speaker 4: I just the gap here, and when you start to

656
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: look at it and think about it, is is really seismic.

657
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Speaker 1: Now to your point, women.

658
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: If you broke it down the white the white women demographic,

659
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: if you broke that down by married unmarried, you would

660
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: see that's really the difference. The difference is you know,

661
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: you know, married and have kids, Republican unmarried. Obviously this

662
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: is a generalized statement, but by the numbers, unmarried more.

663
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: Likely to be Democrat.

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Speaker 4: So with all these numbers in play, yeah.

665
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Speaker 2: Do you agree that the government can never be your husband? Unfortunately,

666
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: this is the other part of it. The government can

667
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: never actually be your husband. The government's not really going

668
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: to take care of you. The government does not care

669
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: about you, is not going to be there for you,

670
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: does not want to advance you as a as a woman.

671
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: But those are the lies the Democrat Party tells women. Unfortunately,

672
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: I think a lot of that's true debate tonight. Do

673
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: you agree with me that men are unlikely to be

674
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: persuadable for Biden? Like I tend to think most men

675
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: are locked in loaded with Trump. Is there an opportunity

676
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: for Trump to surprise women who are more of the

677
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: Biden base. No, you just don't think anything is going

678
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,479
Speaker 2: to happen in this debate that's going to change anybody's mind.

679
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: No, I really, I really don't think so.

680
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: I think that I think that the analysis of the

681
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: deciders yesterday from what was of the New York Times,

682
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: people that voted you know, Obama, Trump, Biden or some

683
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: you know or or or just say that they have

684
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: are undecided for whatever reason. I think the only thing

685
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: that moves them is is who makes more compelling economic argument.

686
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: I don't think the personality advantages or defects of either candidate.

687
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 2: I don't think that the intricacies of the policy around

688
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: Ukraine or whatever. I don't think that that's going to

689
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: change anything at this point. So you have a very

690
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: small number of people you're trying to persuade, and I

691
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: think you have very few buttons to push to persuade them.

692
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Speaker 4: Okay, so With that in mind, how many people that

693
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: are actually undecided or even going to watch.

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Speaker 1: It's the middle. I'm not sure they decide based on

695
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: the debate either. I haven't.

696
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I get it, But if a whole lot

697
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 4: of nothing with like millions, that's what I'm kind of

698
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: getting it. If you're undecided, it seems to me that

699
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 4: you have to work really hard to not care, right,

700
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: I mean, whatever your opinion is, you is.

701
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: Impressed by how apathetic to life is.

702
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I am, because it's like I if you

703
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: are undecided voter at this point in time, you've had

704
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: back to back incumbent presidents, you have to work pretty

705
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 4: hard to not be willing to make a decision, and

706
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 4: you have to be, to a large extent I think,

707
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: ignore all of the noise. And that makes me wonder

708
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 4: whether there's even very many undecided voters that will bother

709
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: to watch in October maybe, but in the middle of

710
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: the summer, when you know, the sun doesn't go down

711
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: until nine thirty, and there's girls to chase, and there's

712
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 4: kids to try to get out to camps and everything else.

713
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 4: I just I don't know how many people are actually

714
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 4: dialed in who are in the deciding category.

715
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: Clay wants to ask you, undecided, what would you say

716
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: you do here exactly? Like, what's it gonna take to

717
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: make your decide? I mean, are there people listening to

718
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: us right now? I'm genuine eight hundred and two eight

719
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: two two eight a two.

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00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 4: You are listening to us right now talk you're engaged politically,

721
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 4: and you have not made a decision on how you're

722
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: going to vote in twenty twenty four. What percentage of

723
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: our audience do you think that is right now listening

724
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: to us right now, right now?

725
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: Like if we have one.

726
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 4: Hundred percent of people size me, you think there's that many?

727
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 4: One in every twenty people listening to us doesn't know

728
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 4: how they're going to vote yet in twenty twenty four.

729
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: Now that you say it that way, two percent.

730
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not even sure there's any I mean,

731
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 4: I would want to hear from you if you are,

732
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 4: because you're we're gonna get, We're gonna get and you

733
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: haven't made your mind up? What are you waiting for?

734
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: Like?

735
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 4: What what is out there that you're like, Man, I

736
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 4: can't really figure out that day.

737
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: There's some you know, uh, there's some ladies you know

738
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: out in the Midwest who are like these guys.

739
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't agree with all.

740
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: Their politics, but they're just so handsome, so I have

741
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: to listen to them, so they'll call in maybe we can.

742
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that. I appreciate that, And you're certainly right. Oh,

743
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 4: I've been getting some I've been getting lit up over

744
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: this haircut of lake Bucks, so I might have lost

745
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: poor How.

746
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: Is it different from your normal hair? I have to

747
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: stare at your face all the time. How is that

748
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: different you?

749
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: I don't think it's noticeable unless I was sitting sideways.

750
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: I basically have no hair on anywhere on the sides

751
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: of my head. Now, I basically got a buzz. You

752
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 4: can't really see. I don't think you can see it.

753
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: On you the big you wear a big canade or headset.

754
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: I never wear a headset, so I can't even see

755
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: the side of your head.

756
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: Really, so yeah, So I when I bought jell O

757
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: shots at the at the College World Series for people,

758
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 4: there was a video of me taken from the side,

759
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 4: and the comments on my hair were, let's say, not kind,

760
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: but there was a lot of there was a lot

761
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: of lighting me up.

762
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: Where'd you get it?

763
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: Where'd you get a cut? You got to cut in

764
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: a nice place, George Harritt, DC. Yeah, you gotta cut

765
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: in Georgetown. I don't know what has fancy you got.

766
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: I was eating by like the butler, and it wasn't good.

767
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 2: It was twenty five bucks, so it wasn't that fancy.

768
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 6: But I was.

769
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: I was eating lunch, and I was like, you know

770
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: what I got time? I need to get a haircut.

771
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 4: I went in and I came out, and I looked

772
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: like that, you know, the dog like and it gets

773
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: this summer cut, like all the hair comes off and

774
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 4: the dog kind of looks we just we just.

775
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: Did it to Ginger, it looks like she's half the

776
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: dog she was before love. That's right. That's what I

777
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: felt like when I walked out.

778
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: It's very aerodynamic, though. My friend's birch gold. You need

779
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Speaker 2: to know about precious metals and how they can play

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Speaker 2: such an important role in your financial future. Let me

781
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Speaker 2: just walk you through some numbers, okay, and you can

782
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Speaker 2: check these numbers yourself. A million dollars, if you put

783
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: aside a million dollars in two thousand and nine, it's

784
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 2: worth seven hundred thousand dollars today, Thank you inflation. Thank

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Speaker 2: you Biden and the socialist Democrats right, and Obama for

786
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 2: that matter. The effect of runaway inflation over the past

787
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Speaker 2: decade is no joke, and it means that everything is

788
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Speaker 2: more expensive now and your savings are worth less. Well,

789
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Speaker 2: what can you do as central banks and governments are

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Speaker 2: playing all these games with our financial system? There's something

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Speaker 2: I had mentioned, though a few moments ago, something else

814
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: in the background that has a lot of people on

815
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: the edge of their seats, well kind of is the

816
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 2: Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity Clay.

817
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: The Court will be.

818
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: Convening on Monday, July first for a public non argument

819
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: session at ten am. The Court may announce opinions then.

820
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: So people are saying Court's going to be in session

821
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: next week, Supreme Court, which means probably not going to

822
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: drop this thing tomorrow. It's probably coming next week before

823
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: the fourth of July holiday. Now, just as everyone knows.

824
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: Right now at MSNBC, they're focused on telling you that

825
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: Trump is a threat to democracy, but.

826
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: They will soon switch to.

827
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: The Supreme Court is doing Trump's dirty work by delaying

828
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: the decision, and the decision is very likely to be

829
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: somewhat favorable to Donald Trump, or rather, they'll in part

830
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 2: at least agree with the argument that a president in

831
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: his presidential duties has some immunity from prosecution, which that's

832
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: really common sense. It goes to important constitutional questions. But

833
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: a president can't do his job if making the wrong

834
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: decision as president, you know, making it in good faith

835
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Speaker 2: as president can result in criminal prosecution afterwards. We don't

836
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: want a situation like you see what happened in Honduras. Clay,

837
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 2: the former president of Honduras is going away for for

838
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: forty five years in a US federal prison because he was,

839
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: while pretending to be an ally of the US and

840
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: the War on Drugs, helping to arrange for and protect

841
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars of cocaine and heroin shipments

842
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: into the United States, which he was benefiting from mightily

843
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: and using that money to keep himself in office. But

844
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: he did step down when I guess they held an

845
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: election a few years ago and the guy who took

846
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: over was like, Yeah, I guess what, We're going to

847
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: extradite you to the US for all those drugs that

848
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: you were helping to sell and cover for. So I'm

849
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: just saying, right, you know, you don't want to be

850
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: in a situation we talk about what it means in

851
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 2: a country where you are going after persecuting your political opposition.

852
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: You definitely don't want to create a situation where you

853
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: can be lawfully doing your job and treated like somebody

854
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: who has been involved in decades long drug conspiracies, because

855
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: then no one's gonna want to give up power, and

856
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: no one's gonna want to stand for public office because

857
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: of the risk of this kind of punitive politics using

858
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: the legis I mean the judiciary as a tool of

859
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 2: what You're looking at me like a no.

860
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Speaker 4: No, no, I'm just I'm just thinking through. By Monday,

861
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 4: whatever happens in the debate is going to be completely

862
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: off the headlines with the Supreme Court decisions, So they're

863
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: basically deadening the debate into a weekend followed by actual

864
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 4: huge news that would come down on Monday, then going

865
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 4: into another holiday, which just further confirms to me that

866
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: this debate is just kind of buried and not really

867
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: going to change the trajectory of anything.

868
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Speaker 1: I think that's the case.

869
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Speaker 2: Also, I believe July eighth is when they're scheduled to

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Speaker 2: have the sentencing for Trump. Why eleventh, because I eleven,

871
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Speaker 2: that's my wife's birthday in my head. So yeah, But

872
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: Thursday of that week, you're gonna find out what they

873
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: do to Trump associated with the New York City charges.

874
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: And so there's a bunch of things that are coming

875
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: down here pretty quickly. Just in the case of the

876
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: former president of Honduras who's got forty five years in

877
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: US federal prison, clearly arranging for international drug shipments was

878
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: not part of his job, right, So that's so I

879
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: think the Supreme Court is essentially going to say, you know,

880
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 2: you call in an air strike on a foreign adversary

881
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: to defend the United States, you know, you you veto

882
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 2: a bill, you sign a bill, whatever. If you're doing

883
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: president's stuff, you can't go to prison. But if you're

884
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: doing other stuff that isn't that doesn't have to do

885
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: with the presidency, that has to be looked at differently.

886
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: So anyway, that's that's coming down the pike. I think

887
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: it'll be most likely Monday, and to Clay's point, that

888
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: will then take us very quickly into the holiday and

889
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 2: then very quickly after that the sentencing of Donald Trump

890
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: and then the RNC.

891
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: Are they so desperate that.

892
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: They would perhaps try to stop Donald Trump from being

893
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: able to be president at the RNC because they they

894
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: would put him under some form of house arrest or

895
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: even yes, the possibility of some form of prison sentence

896
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: or some period of prison sentence. So I have to say,

897
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: that's that's all all the possibility here. Do you want

898
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 2: to because we got Alex Bearnson with us the bottom

899
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: to talk about his case against the Biden administration. But

900
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to. I wanted to get into some of

901
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: this Tucker stuff. You see this Tucker is in Australia.

902
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: He's doing like a tour. You know what Americans do,

903
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: go to Australia. We see the kangaroos and the kualas.

904
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: Everyone's so nice, the beaches are so pretty, you know,

905
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: avoid the saltwater crocs.

906
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: It was an amazing trip that we had. I got

907
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 4: to go at the end of the year. I'd encourage

908
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 4: you and carry at some point to go. Yeah.

909
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: But Tucker is is also doing some speeches there, and

910
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: this is this was a we talked about debates. You know,

911
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: how you handle people who are trying, who are hiding

912
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: behind the facade of I'm just a journalist asking questions

913
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: very important for elected officials, particularly Republicans. You know, if

914
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: somebody asks you, hey, I'm just wondering, why are you

915
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: responsible for mass murders? And why are you a racist

916
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: white supremacist, they're not answer. They're not actually asking you

917
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: a question. If you're you know, if you're Tucker, if

918
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: you're a Republican politician, if you're Donald Trump, they're not

919
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: asking you a question.

920
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: They're just insulting you. Right, They're just insulting you. They're

921
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: they don't.

922
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: Expect you to say, yeah, you're right, I'm responsible for

923
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: a lot of mass murders and I'm a horrible person.

924
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: Like it's just an insult.

925
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: The skuis is a question, and I think Tucker did

926
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: a very good job dealing with this in a whole

927
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: on a whole range of fronts. First off, here we

928
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: you know what, Let's go to nineteen because this is

929
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 2: where she says you talk about white great replacement theory

930
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 2: or the great replacement of whites. This is how Tucker

931
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: handled this part. But played nineteen.

932
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 3: So you talked of a little bit about immigration, and

933
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: in the past you've talked about how white Australians, Americans,

934
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: Europeans are being replaced by non white immigrants in what

935
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: is often referred to as the great replacement theory.

936
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 8: This is the same advice said that whites are being replaced. Well,

937
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 8: I know, I don't think I said that.

938
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: Well, it's been mentioned on your show four thousand times.

939
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 8: And really when did I say that on your on you,

940
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 8: I said whites are being replaced?

941
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: You have said that before?

942
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 8: Really, yeah, I would challenge you to cite that, because

943
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure I haven't said that. I said native

944
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 8: I said native born Americans have are being replaced, including.

945
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: Blacks, native born Americans, native.

946
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 8: Born Americans, Americans who, like black Americans, have been African

947
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 8: Americans have been in the United States for in many

948
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 8: cases their families over four hundred years, and their concerns

949
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 8: are every bit is real and valid and alive to

950
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 8: me as the concerns of white people whose families have

951
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 8: been there four hundred years. So I've never said that

952
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 8: whites are being replaced.

953
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: It's it's a moment, clay, and it keeps going and

954
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: it gets worse and worse for the reporter. She effectively

955
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 2: doubles down on this. If you're going to say someone

956
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: has said something four thousand times on their show. It's

957
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 2: really bad if they've never said it on their show

958
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: or they've never said it publicly, right, And that's essentially

959
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: what happens. And I think the Tucker, because he's been

960
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: in the game a long time and he's fast on

961
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: his feet, doesn't fall into this trap of just allowing

962
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: them to corner you with the initial lie, and all

963
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 2: of a sudden you find yourself ambushed on all sides

964
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: by things that aren't true, and it's just an attack.

965
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: It's not actually meant to be an exchange of ideas.

966
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: It's not really a question.

967
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 4: No, And I think you should prepare yourself for that

968
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: tonight from Jake Tapper and Dana Bash because the premise

969
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 4: under which the question is asked tells a great deal

970
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 4: about the questioner and the question. Because you could say, hey,

971
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 4: let's talk about abortion, Donald Trump, what is your position

972
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 4: on abortion? The way that it's often going to be

973
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: phrased is many women out there feel that in the

974
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: wake of Roe v. Wade, they are going to be

975
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 4: put in prison if they decide to get into Moore, Like,

976
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 4: you can premise the question with a clear indication of

977
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 4: what side of the aisle you are, right and basically

978
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 4: phrasing the question, and a lot of that gets missed,

979
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 4: And I would encourage you to go watch that video.

980
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 4: We'll put it up on Clay and Buck, because Tucker

981
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 4: basically does a masterclass of demonstrating how dishonest the phrasing

982
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 4: of the question is, and in the process basically undresses

983
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 4: the questionner and points out how unfair that entire process is.

984
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 4: So I would encourage you to go watch it. I

985
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 4: think it's instructive. I think it also is illustrative of

986
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 4: what you will likely see tonight as Jake Tapper and

987
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 4: Dana Bash try to handle loaded questions that are very

988
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 4: much softballs to Biden, and then they come at Trump

989
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: like cannon balls.

990
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: The questions for Biden will be, what are you going

991
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: to do to continue to raise middle class wages? The

992
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: questions for Trump will be, since everyone knows you're a

993
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: horrible person, why are you such a horrible person? I

994
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: mean that that's that's the subliminal messaging of what you

995
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 2: should expect, at least in part tonight from those CNN anchors.

996
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 2: They'll try to dress it up so it's a little

997
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: a little subtle, but that's if that's going to be

998
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: the the intent I think of some of the questioning,

999
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: but and and beyond that, Tucker, there was another moment

1000
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: that was pretty fun.

1001
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1002
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: He when he opened it up after he gave his

1003
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: speech for the Q and A. This is all online,

1004
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: and Tucker shared it out on his ex account. He said,

1005
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: you know, oh, here we go, like I can't wait

1006
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: to get questions about you know, Putin and like my

1007
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: support for Russia.

1008
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: And sure enough this has cut seventeen play it. You've

1009
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: preempted my question on Putin. I think you did strategically

1010
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: because you knew it's what we'd ask. He's so bad,

1011
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: and I also appreciate them.

1012
00:53:58,719 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 8: Did he make you take the COVID shot?

1013
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: Take it up the COVID shot? No he didn't. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry,

1014
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: the corvid shot. I have probably tens of millions.

1015
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, this is whoever loves the media.

1016
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: It's like a time capsule. It's like it's like you're

1017
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: like the last Japanese soldier on Oka. Now you think

1018
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: the warst still going? No, it didn't save millions of lives.

1019
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: It's hilarious.

1020
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 8: Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm being Boorishal the full answering with

1021
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 8: that option Okay, I beg your pardon.

1022
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: It's great. It's great. You have to be in some ways.

1023
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 4: I think sometimes buck disrespectful of dishonest questions that aren't

1024
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 4: brought with good intentions.

1025
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: I think I think that unearned respect is a big

1026
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: problem for conservatives and exchanges, particularly with the media. We

1027
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: have a tendency on the right. It's a tendency. It

1028
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: is not when the Trump has, which may be one

1029
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: of the secret weapons that he brings to the table,

1030
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: Well, we have a tendency to say, Okay, I'm going to

1031
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 2: handle this on the merits, even though I think you're

1032
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: being a little unfair or I think you're being a

1033
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 2: little bit ad hominem with the way you're posing the question,

1034
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: and there's really no reason to play along with their

1035
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: game in that way. I think that if people ask

1036
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: unfair questions, you should address them as unfair questions. And

1037
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: I think that's something that certainly Republican politicians have been

1038
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 2: getting better at. I think they've been following Trump's lead

1039
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: on it. If you get a loaded question from Tapper

1040
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: or Dana Bash tonight, I can assure you Trump is

1041
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: going to come at it as a loaded question. It's

1042
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 2: not going to say, yeah, you're right, I'm an adjudicated

1043
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: sexual assault the you know, classified mishandling blah blah blah.

1044
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: He's not just going to take whatever they offer him,

1045
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: and that's very, very important. I did just think it's

1046
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: funny that the Tucker goes so, I know you're gonna

1047
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: ask me a bunch of dumb Russia questions, but I

1048
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: guess we'll take some questions. This guy's like, well, I'd

1049
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: like to ask a Russia question. You're like, oh, by

1050
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: the way, that's.

1051
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 4: A Scottish accent that you just broke out. That is

1052
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 4: not the awesometis Australian. You might as well been wearing

1053
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 4: a kilt when you just try to do your Aussie accent.

1054
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 4: We come back.

1055
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: I've got something you gotta do with Australian accents. You

1056
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: gotta go to this. You gotta go.

1057
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: Nah, I can't do accents. I can't do accents, but

1058
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 4: I was. I did have an incredible time over there.

1059
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 4: But you know, they have a National Sorry Day where

1060
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: they apologize.

1061
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: For all the bad things. I can't believe this is real.

1062
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 4: They have a national this is what it's called National

1063
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 4: Sorry Day, And like the nation just apologizes for all

1064
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 4: the bad things that the nation has done before. So

1065
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 4: this is a real thing I keep waiting for in

1066
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 4: Australian that I didn't like. And yet and yet their

1067
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 4: country is East Germany with kangaroos, Like what has happened there.

1068
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 4: I think it's a sign of how the woke virus

1069
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 4: will spread so quickly that same people get overrun.

1070
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: I really do.

1071
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that a little bit more, and we'll

1072
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 4: continue on debate day, getting you ready for all that.

1073
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