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Speaker 1: be joining us, of course, twenty seventeen NCAA Championship Champion,

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Speaker 2: That's right. We were talking about earlier, Rob what you got.

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Speaker 5: You know, whether you LOCA MVP or not, I think

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Speaker 5: a lot of people will say the leader is SGA.

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Speaker 5: His team has been incredible to reigning champs and Rob G.

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Speaker 5: He's been having a conversation about the free throw merchant

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Speaker 5: that they call him and the success of his team.

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Speaker 2: He had some thoughts on that.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 6: Chris Mannis from Sports Illustrated did a nice little feature

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Speaker 6: on SGA and his team really on Friday, and you know,

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Speaker 6: they are the best team in the league, no matter

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Speaker 6: say what the Lakers. They are the defense champions, they

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Speaker 6: are the prohibitive favorites to win it again, and SGA

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Speaker 6: is the prohibited favorite to go back to back with

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Speaker 6: the MVP. But in the feature, Mannix asked SGA about,

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Speaker 6: you know, the perception about him around the league, you know,

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Speaker 6: the idea that he's the free throw merchant, that he

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Speaker 6: doesn't play ethical basketball, so on and so forth, and

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Speaker 6: SGA had some thoughts on it.

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Speaker 7: Here.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna read some of these quotes here. Quote.

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Speaker 6: I understand why fans are frustrated about it, because they're

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Speaker 6: beat their team, and we beat their team because he

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Speaker 6: scored more points, and we scored more points at the

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Speaker 6: free throw line, in the mid range to three point everything.

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Speaker 6: So I completely understand why they're frustrated. And then the

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Speaker 6: Mannix pressed him later about the negative commentary surrounding his

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Speaker 6: style of play. Specifically, Sga says, quote, everybody in the

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Speaker 6: history of the NBA has an arc where everybody loves

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Speaker 6: them and everybody hates them. Lebron James was hated, and

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Speaker 6: look what he's done for the game. It's part of

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Speaker 6: the game. I love it. It's stuffed I dreamed about

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Speaker 5: And he went on to talk about some other things.

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Speaker 5: talked about the fact that he understands this stuff is

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Speaker 5: good because he himself is gonna become the villain. People

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Speaker 5: I can't believe the Clippers got rid of him. He's

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Speaker 2: Man. Look, I'll give up Paul George any day for him.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, wow, Now they're having success. People don't

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Speaker 5: We see him on national TV more obviously we saw

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Speaker 5: a free throw merchant or I don't like this.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that about him. And what I like is.

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Speaker 5: The fact, whether you love him or hate him, he

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Speaker 5: embraces this, this opportunity, He embraces this hero arc. If

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Speaker 5: that he knows this is good ultimately for the NBA

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Speaker 5: love him, love the team, and that they're keep being

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Speaker 5: the finals. Rob And one of the things we may

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Speaker 2: So to me, he understood that.

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Speaker 5: He mentioned that in this in this article that I

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Speaker 5: know what comes with this territory winning a lot. It

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Speaker 5: reads a little hate, a little envy, also a little

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Speaker 5: all of this is good for the NBA, and I

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Speaker 5: and we had a handful of rob ge rob you

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Speaker 2: So I like where it's going.

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Speaker 5: And the best thing about it again is whether you

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Speaker 5: like love him or hate him that he fully understands this.

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Speaker 5: I mean Lebron James talked about how he struggled that

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Speaker 5: his life he had the black hat, right, when the

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Speaker 5: first time in his life he was getting a negative criticism,

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Speaker 5: right because when he grew up as a high schooler,

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Speaker 5: it was a while look at this feed up coming

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Speaker 5: the hate started, and he didn't know how to handle that.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't prepared, he admitted. I tried to wear the

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Speaker 2: I didn't like it. It wasn't me.

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Speaker 5: I tried to be mean to the media, mean the fans,

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Speaker 5: and it wasn't me, he said. SGA knows that comes

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Speaker 5: with the territory. So I think that's great that this

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Speaker 5: team know it, they're prepared for it, and to me,

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Speaker 5: it leads to a better version of the NBA as

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Speaker 5: we move forward.

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Speaker 1: Rob, Yeah, I don't agree. I don't think anybody hates SGA.

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Speaker 1: They might not like style of play. He's just not

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Speaker 1: what bad guys. He's a guy from Canada who doesn't

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Speaker 1: you don't like histyle of play, you might not be.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see him moving the needle on most

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Speaker 1: and he scores twenty points every night. I don't hear

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Speaker 1: the conversation. Is there a conversation that I'm missing about him?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 5: I think a great example is I'm just saying you

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Speaker 5: you would be like, uh, why don't people like this guy?

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Speaker 5: His dude, he's insane. He makes a bunch shots. He

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Speaker 5: scored forty games or less. But people talk about he's

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Speaker 5: you know, he always going to free thrown. Always call

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Speaker 5: once you start winning, once you start having a lot

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Speaker 5: I'm not I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't say anything as a b I don't

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Speaker 1: that he won. Even last year, you know he won.

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Speaker 1: People don't like his style of game, you know at

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Speaker 4: Even players are talking about that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if there's any venom or any

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Speaker 1: kind of wish back on him, you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: this idea of being a villain in the NBA or

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Speaker 1: something because he's.

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Speaker 4: Winning, I'm not sure. I think he'd have to win

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Speaker 4: a lot. I think it's they if they don't win

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Speaker 1: I just don't like people will be like, oh, that

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Speaker 1: Maybe wins an other m V people, but they don't win,

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Speaker 1: then I don't know where that conversation goes from there.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: I really the only thing I would challenge that is

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Speaker 5: don't have to win it.

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Speaker 2: I think even if they make a deep playoff.

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Speaker 5: Rom when we saw him for first round, second round

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Speaker 5: saying Western Counts finals, say they lose to the Spurs

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Speaker 2: But if we saw two.

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Speaker 5: Through rounds of what people call unethical ball or what

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Speaker 5: a And here's another point, rod Gi, you ray recall

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Speaker 5: win because of that all the only win because he

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Speaker 5: against a free throw. I agree, Rob, I think another

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Speaker 5: deep playoff run is where it starts. I think we're

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Speaker 5: But that's dirty. I think that's when it starts to happen.

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Speaker 5: But I do agree another deep playoff run. I don't

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Speaker 5: But a deep playoff run, I think you'll hear louder

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like a villain. He's just a nice

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Speaker 1: And you know, it takes two seconds to change his game,

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Speaker 1: And it would be interesting to see if that happened

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Speaker 1: the same way they change No, not him, the league

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Speaker 1: and the way that they did with James Harden in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, they wouldn't give him that little you know

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Speaker 4: And that changed everything.

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Speaker 1: If you look at that, James Harden was always looking

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Speaker 4: Would change things.

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Speaker 1: And and then I would like to see where he

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to that, all right, eight seven, seven ninety

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Speaker 5: A lot of people have issues with his quote unquote

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Brandon in Riverside. You're on the odd

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 11: What's going on?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 12: What's good?

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Speaker 11: That's all I'm doing.

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Speaker 11: a great player. It's a league problem, right man, Like

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Speaker 13: So I think it's more of the league problem with that,

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Speaker 13: He go out there, he plays games, had to play

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Speaker 13: Thank you, all.

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Speaker 1: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, Drew in New Jersey.

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Speaker 5: Eighty twenty is like? You gotta give me a little

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Speaker 1: John in South Carolina, You're on the odd couple of

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Speaker 4: What's up, John, Pey?

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Speaker 14: What's going on? Guys?

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 14: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 14: I always like to listen to you guys. You guys

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Speaker 14: are awesome. You guys are great to listen to. I

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Speaker 4: You know, we appreciate that, John, for real. Thank you, absolutely,

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Speaker 4: You're welcome.

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Speaker 14: And so here's my comment on SGA. I think Steve

444
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Speaker 14: Kerrhitter right on the right on the head. It's a

445
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Speaker 14: league thing. The league, don't They don't know how to

446
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Speaker 14: handle SGA and his playing style. But here's my thing.

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Speaker 14: I think he's a two point guard. He gets his

448
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Speaker 14: team involved, he plays good defense. If he has to

449
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Speaker 14: take over the game, he can do that at any time.

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Speaker 10: And I was going to.

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Speaker 14: Ask you, guys, who do you think are the five

452
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Speaker 14: best true point guards right now in the NBA? And

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Speaker 14: I mean true point guards and in ending And I'm

454
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Speaker 14: gonna get off and listen to you guys. I think

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Speaker 14: SGA reminds me of old school Walt Frazier. You know,

456
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Speaker 14: Fraser was just cool. He was a great point guard.

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Speaker 14: He wasn't loud, he wasn't in the media doing anything bad.

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Speaker 14: But the league didn't like him because he wore.

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Speaker 4: A fur coach, Yes he had.

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Speaker 14: But Clyde was cool. And I think.

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Speaker 5: He still dresses. He still gets his dress on, Rob.

462
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Speaker 5: You know that little little wild a little loud right

463
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Speaker 5: now to this day.

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Speaker 4: I mean that he wears on MSG. I think all

465
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Speaker 4: of those stores have been closed for thirty years.

466
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying otherwise he was trying to take him back.

467
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Speaker 5: He might he might be rocking some stuff he wore

468
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Speaker 5: back in his championship days with the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: But to the answer his question. And you got guys like.

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Speaker 5: Kay Jalen Brunson, Luca Sga is kind of it seems

471
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Speaker 5: like a weird such as so many these guys are

472
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Speaker 5: combo guards. But if you're counting him as a point guard,

473
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Speaker 5: and so be it, uh, because he seems a little

474
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Speaker 5: bit more two guards to me personally? Who else were missing?

475
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Speaker 5: Obvious point guard up there? I fun to watch his

476
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Speaker 5: LaMelo ball. He's fun, but I can't put him quite

477
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Speaker 5: up there yet. But he's a blast to watch.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And Steph healthy Steph.

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Speaker 5: But you know, this hasn't been that kind of season

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Speaker 5: for him obviously, with the injuries and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: All right, Joel Barry.

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Speaker 5: Talk to him the second and just a moment of course,

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Speaker 5: n C Double A chant will get to rap with

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Speaker 5: get your set on what true, Hay Steve.

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Speaker 5: Joined now by Joel Barry the Second twenty seventeen NCAA

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Speaker 5: Champion Most Outstanding Player AAACC network analysts as well Joel

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Speaker 5: Barry the Second on X Joe, what's going on?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 2: How you doing? How are you?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Fellas, I'm hanging in there. I'm hanging in there.

504
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Speaker 2: Expect my boys.

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Speaker 10: To be out of the tournament this early. Was looking

506
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Speaker 10: to be a fan for March Madness. This is the

507
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Speaker 10: best time of the year. So I'm hanging in there.

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Speaker 10: But at least we got some good games today to

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Speaker 10: make me feel a little better.

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Speaker 4: I thought for the last two years you would be

511
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Speaker 4: used to it by now.

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Speaker 5: Oh, come on like that.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm just I'm asking, and I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you about Hubert Davis.

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Speaker 4: I think he should be fired.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, with where North Carolina is, there's no way

518
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Speaker 1: you should blow that game. That a big lead and

519
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Speaker 1: we've seen this happen the championship game even with years

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Speaker 1: back at a big lead. What what's going on at

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Speaker 1: North Carolina? Uh, and what do you expect?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what I have the same same settiment as you, man.

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Speaker 10: I just I don't know. You know, we're the adjustments yesterday.

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Speaker 10: You know, I'm not I'm not a guy. You know,

525
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Speaker 10: we all got egos. You know, we're prideful and what

526
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Speaker 10: we do. That's just part of being human. But at

527
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Speaker 10: some point you got to adapt to the game. And

528
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Speaker 10: all you had to do was just throw a zone

529
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Speaker 10: in there, kind of change it up. You know, somebody's

530
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Speaker 10: eating up all over the court. At some point you

531
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Speaker 10: got to say, all right, this is enough. So that's

532
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Speaker 10: kind of been the problem. I mean, you look at

533
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Speaker 10: the season, it's been a success and uh, you know,

534
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Speaker 10: they hit on the portal, they got Henry Basar. Some

535
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Speaker 10: of the guys didn't paying out the way that they

536
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Speaker 10: wanted them to, but you at least had a duo

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Speaker 10: in Caleb Wilson and Henry Basar. They did their thing,

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Speaker 10: and you know, part of basketball, you get a lot

539
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Speaker 10: of luck too, and they just got unlucky. But you know,

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Speaker 10: if if Hubert got fired today, I would tell someone.

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Speaker 10: You know, I'm not surprised at all. I think it

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Speaker 10: warn't you know, I think it would warrant that because

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Speaker 10: of what has happened over the past years. And you know,

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Speaker 10: we've seen it from both extremes. We've seen them being

545
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Speaker 10: up and blowing leads. But then last year the case

546
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Speaker 10: was they always were. They were getting down by twenty

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Speaker 10: thirty points and then making a comeback.

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Speaker 5: Right, and I'll tell you what, Joe, I think I

549
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Speaker 5: speak for Rob too. I appreciate your honesty, you know

550
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Speaker 5: what I mean. Some don't want to because affiliation with

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Speaker 5: the school and don't want to, you know, say anything.

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Speaker 4: You you were just talking about the real right, Yeah.

553
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Speaker 5: But we're talking about time. Some people they still want

554
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Speaker 5: them blazers, the tickets.

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Speaker 1: The free you know, all that kind from the Christmas

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Speaker 1: gift bag, right, yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, they want them. Jordan's man for.

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Speaker 2: Some mean Yeah, So I appreciate your honesty.

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Speaker 14: There.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. You played, obviously you want

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Speaker 2: a championship. You played.

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Speaker 5: How difficult is it to teach somebody who's young. We

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Speaker 5: got a lot of really freshman fetales who were in this,

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Speaker 5: but how you know you had freshmen coming in when

565
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Speaker 5: you were a sophomore, junior, senior to get them to understand, Na,

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Speaker 5: the tournament's a little different. No, the pressure is a

567
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Speaker 5: little different. All this game is a little bigger. Or

568
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Speaker 5: maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you tell us, hey, just keep

569
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Speaker 5: your head, it's the same game. But how do you

570
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Speaker 5: explain that to somebody who's never played in the tournament?

571
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Speaker 10: Man, this is a you know, it's a great question.

572
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Speaker 10: I'm reading a book about Roger Federer and how he

573
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Speaker 10: has how he came about and how his career evolved

574
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Speaker 10: from when he was young to when he really started

575
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Speaker 10: going on a run and really just knocking tennis out

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Speaker 10: of the just taking over tenants. And the difference was

577
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Speaker 10: he understood how to play the game. He had the talent.

578
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Speaker 10: That's the thing with all of these young guys. They

579
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Speaker 10: have talent, they got all the tools, they got all

580
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Speaker 10: of the intangibles. But what you don't realize is there's

581
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Speaker 10: a difference just going out and playing basketball and then

582
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Speaker 10: compared to going out and playing winning basketball. And Roger

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Speaker 10: Federer talked about how he had to start playing the

584
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Speaker 10: game within the game, learning how to take advantage of

585
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Speaker 10: when the momentum was on his side, when to kind of,

586
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Speaker 10: you know, get himself in a position where Okay, maybe

587
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 10: I got to slow it down a little bit and

588
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Speaker 10: then find my pocket to attack. That's the difference between

589
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Speaker 10: basketball and playing winning basketball. And during the tournament, that's

590
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Speaker 10: what you have to have. You got to know when

591
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Speaker 10: you need to slow it down. You got to know

592
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Speaker 10: when you need to speed it up, and you have

593
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Speaker 10: to know when you need to adapt to the game.

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Speaker 10: We all come in with game plans, but you have

595
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Speaker 10: to know, Okay, maybe that was our thing. We got

596
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Speaker 10: to change it up a little bit because this team

597
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 10: is exposing that's that's the difference between basketball and winning basketball,

598
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 10: and that's what you got to get the young guys

599
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 10: to understand.

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Speaker 2: Uh like that.

601
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to ask you about Michigan and where

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Speaker 1: they fall in.

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Speaker 4: I'm just curious.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, they had a really great season.

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Speaker 1: Some people were like, we had some analysts on they're

607
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Speaker 1: gonna win the championship. Other people like they won't you know,

608
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Speaker 1: get past the second round.

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Speaker 4: Where are you want Michigan?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 4: And where do they fit into this tournament?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? I like, I like Michigan has on paper they got,

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Speaker 10: you know, they got really good size. They have uh

614
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Speaker 10: bigs that can play make I like bigs that can

615
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Speaker 10: be the be the quarterback out on the perimeter and

616
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Speaker 10: allow the guards and other wings to kind of be receivers.

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Speaker 10: I think that makes your team hard to game plan.

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Speaker 10: But as I look at Michigan, you look at them

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Speaker 10: at the start of the season, everybody wanted to crown

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Speaker 10: them national champion, especially after that that players out in

621
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Speaker 10: Las Vegas. But the thing is you got to start

622
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Speaker 10: looking at trends and as you towards the end of

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Speaker 10: the season, the teams in the Big Ten, they started

624
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Speaker 10: figuring them out and they weren't as high. And then

625
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Speaker 10: some of these teams like TCU were having chances against

626
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Speaker 10: them Ohio State, but you kind of saw the drop

627
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Speaker 10: off a little bit. So I think a lot of

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Speaker 10: it have to do with, you know, casing being out

629
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Speaker 10: as well, like your bench has to be strong, and

630
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Speaker 10: he was able to come in and kind of change

631
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Speaker 10: the flavor of the game for them a little bit.

632
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Speaker 10: But I still think they have the pieces. I like

633
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Speaker 10: that they can play inside. When you look at them

634
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Speaker 10: throughout the tournament, you know they have the ability to

635
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 10: knock down shots. It's just about keeping the gas on

636
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 10: the pedal for them. But I think they do have

637
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Speaker 10: the pieces to win it all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what's gonna be. It should be a good tournament

639
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 5: for them. We'll have to wait and see. Joe Berry

640
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Speaker 5: the second twenty seventeen Most Outstanding Player of the tournament.

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Speaker 5: ACC Network analysts on with the yacht couple on this

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Speaker 5: fucky flashback Friday. Let me go here with you, Cavn Boozer,

643
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Speaker 5: Aj Debonta out camera, Boozer got to scare a Cuff

644
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 5: Junior look fantastic so far. A couple other guys here,

645
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Speaker 5: KAYLEB Wilson. We can kind of go on and all,

646
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 5: but who are you looking at? If you're de Bonsa,

647
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 5: what's it like now you're out? What was that season like?

648
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Speaker 5: And if you're a pro one of the teams in

649
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Speaker 5: the league, who are you looking at?

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Speaker 10: Us?

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Speaker 2: Saying? Potentially number one pick? Who do you like?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's hard not to go with Aj

653
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Speaker 10: debomcer because you look at his ability to be able

654
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Speaker 10: to impact the inside of the paint, being able to

655
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Speaker 10: get to the basket, and I mean some of those

656
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 10: centiss he had in that game against Texas was ridiculous.

657
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 10: But he has all the tools and intangibles that you

658
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Speaker 10: want in a player. He can handle it. He has size,

659
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Speaker 10: he has length. I think the only question, and I

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Speaker 10: don't think this unknown, is what is he going to

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Speaker 10: do defensively? But that's the thing though, I mean, look,

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Speaker 10: look we could talk about defense here. That's going that's

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Speaker 10: scoring one hundred and fifty points a night. I don't

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Speaker 10: think saying, you know, can he play defense, that's not

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Speaker 10: the case. He'll you knowally, that'll that'll come on. But

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Speaker 10: if I'm looking at you know, taking the number one pick,

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Speaker 10: I'm going aj debouson. But also look at Cam, Like

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Speaker 10: a lot of people are saying the athleticism for Cam

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Speaker 10: is a problem. But if Yokis can can ball out

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Speaker 10: in the NBA and you can't even slide a piece

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Speaker 10: of paper up under his feet, you know he just

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Speaker 10: the way that he's able to read the game, the

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Speaker 10: IQ being able to see the play before the play

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Speaker 10: like that's skill too. Like skill isn't just athleticism and

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Speaker 10: just being able to handle the ball go between your

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Speaker 10: legs and wiggle. Skill is also i Q, being able

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Speaker 10: to see the floor, make read That's what the NBA

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Speaker 10: is read and react, So it's going to be a

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Speaker 10: hard pick for these gms. I wouldn't want to be

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Speaker 10: in their position, but man, they got a lot of

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Speaker 10: talent to pick from. Uh.

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Speaker 4: The last thing.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about Saint John's and Rick

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Speaker 1: Patino and just where do they fit in They're playing tonight,

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Speaker 1: They're up by twenty something at the half, you know,

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Speaker 1: against the noise den Iowa. Just do they have a shot.

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Speaker 1: Is there some magic there for Rick Patino?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? I think there is.

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Speaker 15: I think you look at this team and they're one

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Speaker 15: of those teams that's hard to go against because they

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Speaker 15: play such an unorthodox style of play. They get after

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Speaker 15: you defensively, they bring intensity, they have physicality. You know

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Speaker 15: Zoobie down there in the block, you can get him

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Speaker 15: the ball, and he also can step out and hit

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Speaker 15: the three. I think the question for me is can

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Speaker 15: they have enough structure throughout the NCAA tournament when the

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Speaker 15: game presents it where they need structure, Like, at some

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Speaker 15: point you can't play this whole helter skelter basketball. You

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Speaker 15: got to be able to slow the game down. You

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Speaker 15: got to be able to take your time and be

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Speaker 15: able to play efficiently. That's my only question about Saint

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Speaker 15: John's when that presents itself.

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Speaker 10: Can they do that? All right?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why they play the games. My man will

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Speaker 2: have to wait.

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Speaker 5: And so I appreciate you, Joel, thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: My God, appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Kurr.

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Speaker 10: I appreciate you at having me. Y'all enjoy the rest

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Speaker 10: of the night and the tournament.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so no doubt. Give him a follow Joe Berry

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Speaker 5: the Second, give him a follow on X. All right, Rob,

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Speaker 5: we talked about the thunder a little bit earlier this hour.

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Speaker 5: There's some decision that they're making that maybe some folks

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Speaker 5: would agree, some won't. We'll tell you what we're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Rob g We talked about sga't a Thunder. Obviously they're

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Speaker 5: the current reigning champions in the NBA, which means they

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Speaker 5: got to go to the White House. Typically teams of

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Speaker 5: any league or any champion often have that visit.

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Speaker 2: They said they're not going to be able to make

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Speaker 2: it right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to quote the Great League. Course, so not so fast,

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Speaker 4: my friend.

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Speaker 6: According to the Oklahoma City Thunder and a spokesperson, you know,

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Speaker 6: we be in touch with the White House, and we're

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Speaker 6: appreciative and grateful for the communication, but the timing just

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Speaker 6: doesn't work out for us, and we're not going to

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Speaker 6: be able to make it this year.

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Speaker 1: Rob, you're you have the right to go not go,

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Speaker 1: and I don't have an issue with it.

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady didn't go see Barack Obama. I don't remember

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Speaker 4: it being a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember people being so worked up and ready

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Speaker 1: to say Tom Brady wasn't patriotic or whatever the term

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Speaker 1: you want to paint somebody with. What was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be great about this country, and I question it every day.

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Speaker 4: I'm just being honest.

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Speaker 1: Is that you were supposed to be able to do

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Speaker 1: what you want to do and not have any pushback

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Speaker 1: or repercussion from the government. Right, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do this. I don't want to stand up for the

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Speaker 1: national anthem. I don't want to do this. I want

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Speaker 1: to do that. Right, you're protected. You could burn a

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Speaker 1: flag if you want. It's not patriotic. I wouldn't do it,

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Speaker 1: but you have that right. That's my point. So if

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Speaker 1: they don't want to go, right, for whatever reason, they

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Speaker 1: don't want to go, the NATO shouldn't have to go

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Speaker 1: I don't even think it's an argument, and you just

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Speaker 1: the way you handle it, or you're thank you, thanks

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Speaker 1: for the invitation or whatever, but we're going to pass

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Speaker 1: this time, or we can't make it, or whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: I would just say, I appreciate the invite, but we

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Speaker 1: can't make it, or too many players can't make it,

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Speaker 1: and we would rather be represented by our whole team,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, rather than four people going.

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Speaker 1: And then you got to ask the question why didn't

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Speaker 1: the other twelve guys come, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like putting the guys on the spot. Yeah, I think Rob,

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Speaker 2: you bring up a great point.

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Speaker 5: Look, you're supposed to be able to have I don't

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Speaker 5: think Michael Jordan went every time. If I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 5: I don't think he went every time. And there's been million,

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Speaker 5: there's been a bunch of people. You get a guy

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Speaker 5: like Craig Hodges on the Bulls.

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Speaker 4: R Hodges went and got black Ball because.

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Speaker 2: Went on purpose. Yeah, because he wore.

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Speaker 1: And he gave George Bush a letter about the black

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Speaker 1: community and things that needed help, and it was the

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Speaker 5: And a lot of people feel that's the reason why

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Speaker 5: he wasn't in the NBA anymore. So I bring it

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Speaker 5: up to say, we are now in a zero sum situation,

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Speaker 5: rob where if you say one thing, then you're completely

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Speaker 5: cut off for anything else. If you don't like this,

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Speaker 5: well then you can't. You're completely done with. And that's

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Speaker 5: to your point of where we've gotten to, so that

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Speaker 5: if you disagree with something, well, now you know that

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Speaker 5: we have had where this administration the first iteration, we're

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Speaker 5: adversary against players, right, we had them going up against Lebron,

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Speaker 5: against Steph, against the all that so and it got

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Speaker 5: so controversial where typically there was a massive gap of

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Speaker 5: separation between professional athlete and government, meaning the athlete might

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Speaker 5: say something, might disagree, might agree, my love it, and

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Speaker 5: that kind of just be that it didn't really touch.

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Speaker 2: The government like that.

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Speaker 5: Now if you say something, well you might have an

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Speaker 5: administration that doesn't like you, that comes out against you.

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Speaker 2: When we were like when it happened before at the.

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Speaker 5: Warriors back in twenty seventeen, I believe it was twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 5: they said, you know, they didn't go to the year before,

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Speaker 5: House like, oh, we weren't going to invite you anyway.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's very tit for tat, very again adversary.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna admit, I mean, like for all these

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Speaker 1: you'd have to help me. And I'm just calling it

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Speaker 1: like I see it. There's been two administrations where have

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Speaker 1: been problems where people are not going. Let's just call

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Speaker 1: it like it is. I mean, we can see there

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Speaker 1: all you want. I'm not talking about it used to

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Speaker 1: be a foregone conclusion. A chance to go to the

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Speaker 1: White House, right and visit is something all Americans at

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Speaker 1: some point would like to do. We went on school trips, right,

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Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Kelvin, I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: I really don't, no matter who was in the White House, Republican, Democrat.

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Speaker 4: But let's be honest. Trump's two terms has been.

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Speaker 1: Controversial, and that's why I think it's been hit or

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Speaker 1: missed with what teams and what people want to go

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Speaker 1: to the White House.

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Speaker 2: And everything's become controversial. Right.

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Speaker 5: You get the men's hockey team just wins and the

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Speaker 5: Winter Olympics and they want to go. People are upset

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Speaker 5: they're going the women's team, you know, because again the

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Speaker 5: we don't, we don't want them.

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Speaker 4: We want them, but they'll yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I gotta I gotta invite them because

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Speaker 5: you know so, And that's and that's why do you

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Speaker 5: want to go to an invitation like that?

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Speaker 2: But I guess I gotta invite them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So if I'm inviting you, I guess I gotta

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Speaker 5: invite them. So that's why I'm saying to your point,

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Speaker 5: Historically you would have a player or two who may

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Speaker 5: the team would go.

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Speaker 2: It was honor you.

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Speaker 5: Now where we are, as you mentioned with this administration

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Speaker 5: in each term we've had where entire teams aren't going,

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Speaker 5: entire you know, organizations aren't going, versus a player or

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Speaker 5: two who may not go, timing, scheduling or beliefs. Now,

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Speaker 5: it's like you just have a lot of teams who

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Speaker 5: won't go or teams who do, and if they do

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Speaker 5: is backlash or you remember the Dodgers last year, right,

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Speaker 5: So it's just it makes for a very interesting place

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Speaker 5: where we are right now. Where going to the Whiteside

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Speaker 5: you said, never be a conversation. It was a it

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Speaker 5: was a ticker, little side note you see on Sports

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Speaker 5: Center or something MLB, we'll tell you what's great for

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Speaker 5: them now next,