1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: I listen to the Black Guy who Tips podcasts because 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Rob and Karen. For me, the personality is not always 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: a positive one, or rather, it's positive mostly only when 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: it is allowed to operate creatively. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: Otherwise it can be a drag. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: For me, creating things is about finding a place for 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: feelings that would otherwise interfere with ordinary life. Those could 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: be feelings of aggression, they could be feelings of depression. 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: For me, those are two common ones, and they're not 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: feelings that I want to dominate my ordinary life, which 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: is why they work so well as an engine for 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: making things. When I was a kid and people told 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: me that Einstein spent the last decades of his life 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: in New Jersey, I thought the idea was strange. It 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: was hard to picture him walking around with other Jersey types. 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Tony Soprano came to mind, though he didn't exist yet. 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: Did Einstein go with someone like Tony took construction sites 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: or is he one of the Atlantic city boardwalk County 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: County to change in his pocket, hoping he could scrape 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: up enough cash to make it big at the casino. 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: At some point, my parents and I were driving. 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Up from Philadelphia so that they could play a concert 23 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 1: somewhere in the northeast. We took the I ninety five, 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: which went near Princeton, New Jersey, and when I saw 25 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: the sign, I remember reading that Albert Einstein walked around Princeton. 26 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: He would scan the ground for cigarette butts. When he 27 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: saw one, he would pick it up and empty the 28 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: remaining tobacco into his pipe. It wasn't that he was cheap. 29 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: Maybe he was, but that wasn't why he did it. 30 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: His doctor had forbidden him from smoking, and he was 31 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: being defiant. He was being resourceful. He also he was 32 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: telling the world that he didn't want them to put 33 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: wall want them to put walls around him. If he 34 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: wanted to do something, he was going to do it, 35 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: try and stop them. Einstein cigarette bus reminded me of 36 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: another component of creativity, which is that you have to 37 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: pay attention. 38 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: You have to wash the ground. 39 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: I may be more guilty of this than other creators, 40 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: probably because I wonder whether I really am creative in 41 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: the first place. Maybe I'm just a great student scouring 42 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: the sidewalk for pieces of things other people made so 43 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: I can pick them up and stuff them in my pipe. Hey, 44 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: welcome to the Blackout Tips podcast. The hopest rod and 45 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: and we're live on a Saturn today afternoon. Ready to 46 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: do some podcasting. Find us on iTunes, Stitcher, Potomatic, search 47 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: The Black Guy Tips and give us four star reviews. 48 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna read those today. We are the ones that 49 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: you left, and y'all did leave a few. Thank you. 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Okay. 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It'll be fine for you, 80 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, check it out. I think it's gonna be 81 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: a fun time. I love to see you guys there 82 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: in the zoom chat with the links and all that stuff, 83 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: hanging out with us. So I'm looking forward to that tonight. 84 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: So eight o'clock Eastern Standard time, six six my brother's birthday, 85 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: half birthday, Rodney. 86 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the excerpt. 87 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: The excerpt that we're reading today is from Creative Quest 88 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: by the Quest Love of the Roots and it's a 89 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: whole book about creativity, and I thought about a couple 90 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: of things. He said that one being creative to put 91 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: emotions that you don't want to dominate your life into 92 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: like capsules and coordinate, coordinated off. That is an interesting concept, 93 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, So you know, and it makes sense when 94 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: you think about a lot of people's art, you know, 95 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: where your art is angry, your artist sad, your art 96 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: is this, and then saying well, I'm putting it here 97 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: so that I don't have to live in it all 98 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: the time, right, which I thought was cool. You know, 99 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: I feel like my I feel like what we do 100 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: is creative and it's definitely art to do the podcast, 101 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: But I would not say that I'm doing it to 102 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: not experience in other places, because I feel like the 103 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: joy we have during the show is a joy that 104 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: I love living in, you know. Yes, and even just 105 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: the explanations and stuff like that, so on a as 106 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: a regular thing, I don't think it is. But in general, 107 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: there is certain things that go into the show that 108 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: is exactly that. Like, yes, where I'm like, I don't 109 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: want to be angry all the time, but I'm gonna 110 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: express my anger on this show in this confined space 111 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: for this finite amount of time, and then I'm gonna 112 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: move on to my regular life. You know, I'm frustrated 113 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: with certain events that are happening. Here's a place I 114 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: can say it, and you know, and it's different than 115 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: other places, where like social media, you have so many 116 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: people putting into the pot. You know, you can go 117 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: in and say, man, my wife slap me in my face, 118 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: and someone's gonna be like, well, what did you deserve 119 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: to be slapped? Another person gonna be like, yeah, how 120 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: the police and you know, divorce, you know, and so 121 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: something that you know, I might say on this podcast 122 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: and it's me and you and the rest of the 123 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: people are passively listening, right, there's a difference. And so 124 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: there are things, you know, more complex, nuanced thoughts, feelings 125 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: that I have that I don't want to like put 126 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: out there until the ether to yuck. Anyone's young. But 127 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: I do feel like. 128 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: A need to express it. 129 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: That happens all the time with the podcast, And I 130 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: never had thought of it that way until I read 131 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: this and was like, yeah, but when I don't like 132 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: something I see people doing, But I also don't really 133 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: think it's a big enough deal to start no shit 134 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: over it, and I really don't want to attract those 135 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: people's attention and argue with them. I do go to 136 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: the podcast, you know, when I have complicated thoughts about 137 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: you know, politics or blackness or whatever. I love the 138 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: podcast for that, you know, and I don't want those 139 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: thoughts to dominate my life all the time. And sometimes 140 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: before we get on the mic, it'll be something I've 141 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: been thinking about for a while. I'm like, Okay, finally 142 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: I can talk about this. 143 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: Right, this is the spot, Yeah, excuse me, this is 144 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: the place to talk about it. Something that I kind 145 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: of picked up from it, which is really interesting, is 146 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: that when he's talking about Albert Einstein, the things about 147 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: creatives is that they'll look at things that other people 148 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: consider trash. You know, because when people smoke, they don't 149 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: they don't they don't think twice about that, like that's 150 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: the afterthought them. People have moved on with they live, 151 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: they haven't thought about that. So he literally picked up 152 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: something somebody else had used and turned it into something else. 153 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: Black people do that all the goddamn time. A lot 154 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: of times out of necessity, we pick up other things 155 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: that people consider trash, and we'll recycle it. We'll find 156 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: another purpose forward, we'll be innovative with it. But to 157 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: other people that were like that's trash, he was like, no, 158 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: I have to do this. I'm doing this because I 159 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: have to. He was doing it because he wanted to. 160 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 3: And some people do that because. 161 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: They want to. 162 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: Some people actually, like they say, they look at the ground, 163 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 3: they look at things around them, They observe, they soak 164 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: in things, they adapt and they adjust. And I think 165 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: that's that's a very different take on it that I 166 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: never really thought about because I know that a lot 167 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: of places, particularly I'm just picking on California kind of 168 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: being plastic bags. 169 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: But in the Negro community, we use plastic. 170 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: Bags for a lot of purposes other than just to 171 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: carry your groceries. You know, we use it as conditioners 172 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: for hair. You know, you wrap your hair up in it, 173 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: and it's a shower cap. You take your lunch in it, 174 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 3: you use it as a trash bag. It has multiple purposes. 175 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: But you know, to multi people, they take their plastic 176 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: bag and throw it in the trash can. 177 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Right, same thing with Crown Royal bags come out. 178 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 4: You can find multiple purposes forward. 179 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, and yeah, it is interesting because That is 180 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: the second part I wanted to get into it. You 181 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: said it so eloquently, But the ability for creative people 182 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: to see something that people find useless and find the 183 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: use in the thing, you know, Like, for example, with 184 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: our podcast, people think a podcast is. 185 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: Supposed to be one hundred percent. 186 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: Action, Like if you watch the action movie, it's supposed 187 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: to be one a like, you know, nothing but gunshots 188 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: and bullets and fights. 189 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 4: And then like that. 190 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 3: Episode of Team Ties, but it was like action action 191 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: and Robin was like, no, you got to have explanation 192 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 3: or the shit don't make sense. 193 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: Right, Which is fine though, because there's a lot of 194 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: podcasts that are nothing but action. 195 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: Correct. 196 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: They've cut down the US and US, they cut down 197 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: the lulls and silences. They even cut out the conversation 198 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: so that the conversation, even if it's cutting abrupt and it. 199 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: Doesn't feel right, it's like, at least it's short, you know. 200 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: And that is definitely a way to podcast and it's 201 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: very creative and lucrative for certain people. But but even 202 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: with podcasting, I'm a person that looks that other podcasters 203 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: look at what we did and said, nah, I think 204 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: there's a room for a two hour show. 205 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: There's a room for a three hour. 206 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: Daily show if you do it right. Like, there's a 207 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: way to make these things, to have these long, pontificating 208 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: discussions as opposed to just like, oh, let's get to 209 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: the point. You know, like if there was another way, 210 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: like I could have done this show where we're doing 211 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: feedback shows and we probably wouldn't even get feedback after 212 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: a while. If I did it the right way, people 213 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't need to feel like they could contribute it to 214 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: this conversation. We can make it so that no one 215 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: feels welcome. We can make it so that we don't 216 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: do it live. We can make it where the interaction 217 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: is not the key. The process to this podcast is 218 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: the key. The conversation is the key. The meandering and 219 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: the thought and going through it with us and watching 220 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: us grow, eve all, watching us dvolve, watching us change, 221 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: that's all the shit. 222 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: And live action too, because you're kind of seeing it 223 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: as we do things. Because we've had conversations in mine 224 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: and yours, both opinion would actually change kind of while 225 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: we're having a conversation. 226 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then even with different episodes, each episode is 227 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: an art piece. Each episode is different, like you know, 228 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: there's a difference between you know, we have like a 229 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: Chris lamberth or Ray signing on and the conversations a 230 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: little bit longer, a lot less rigid and structured. There's 231 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: other times we have a guest on or we do 232 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: to show ourselves and we're like, boom boom boom, boom boom. 233 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: These are the topics we want to talk about. These 234 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: are the articles we want to get to. Things like that. 235 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: So finding the extra layer and reading it and going 236 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: into details and having the conversations about things we don't 237 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: that we feel squischy about. That to me is also 238 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: finding cigarette butts on the ground. 239 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 240 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: Also the thing about are when you're truly creative, you 241 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: can adapt and adjust. I know you said, he talked 242 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: about that his book too, Like you have to adapt 243 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 3: in the adjust to your audience. And because the audience 244 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 3: is actually you know, the people that have eyes and 245 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: people that are paying like those are the people that 246 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: the matter. 247 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: And sometimes you could be so. 248 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: Structured in doing it only your way and there can 249 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: be no other way but your way, that you actually 250 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: lose sight in the pureness. 251 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: Of the creativity. 252 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: Because the part of the creativity sometimes it's just going 253 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: with the flow, which is very hard for people to 254 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: do because both of those shows you just described are 255 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: great in their own ways. 256 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will always go back and I go back 257 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: to this speaking of the roots. But I go back 258 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: to this over and over in my mind all the time. 259 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: I think about this, probably at least once or twice 260 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: a month. But the quote from mo Better Blues when 261 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: Bleak is talking to Shadow Henderson and Shadow and Bleak 262 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: is talking about how he wants to do this high 263 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: minded artistic shit, and Bleak says, it's all bullshit. Everything, 264 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: everything you just said is bullshit. Out of all the 265 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: people in the world, you never gave anybody else, and look, 266 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: I love you like a step brother, but you never 267 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: gave anybody else a chance to play their own music. 268 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: You complain about that's right. 269 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: The people don't come because you grandiose motherfuckers don't play 270 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: the shit that they like. 271 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: If you played the shit that they like, then the 272 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 2: people will come. 273 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: Sibl as that And that's what I always try to 274 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: think about what the show is like. Are are we 275 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: playing to the people? Are we just playing only our 276 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: to big up ourselves, like this is what y'all need 277 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: to be on. And it's that balance as a creative 278 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: that you have to walk where I do want this 279 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: to represent me, I do want this to represent myself, 280 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: but I do want it to reach people and for 281 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: people to understand it. And it's a fine line. 282 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a fine line. And truth be told, 283 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 3: everybody's not good at it. And that's something that people 284 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: don't want to admit, is that when you're also being creative, 285 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: everything you put out there ain't gonna be a hit. 286 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: That ain't gonna be a gem, and it ain't gonna 287 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: go to number one. 288 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a flop, sometimes it fails, sometimes doesn't work. 289 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: But what it does teach you is that I need 290 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: to adapt and adjust. But sometimes people aren't good at 291 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: something and they won't adapt in the just to actually 292 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 3: make themselves better, because that's also a part of being 293 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: to creative. 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And last week Do Street J. 348 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: Thank you everybody that's erbody. 349 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: We appreciate you to play me out. 350 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: Kirk oh me, can you just smile. 351 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: For me? 352 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 4: Smile? 353 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: Can you just smile. 354 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 4: For me? 355 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: And the people say, all right, let's get to y'all. 356 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: Five star reviews. We got quite a few. 357 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: Firstly, we got it. 358 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: We got one from reading in Milwaukee, loving it again 359 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: and again. Rody Karen, goodness, you keep it so real. 360 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: I listen and learned, talk, laugh and keep keep myself 361 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: from crying. Thank you for the dialogue and the hard topics, 362 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: ugly times, ugly policing and nothing new. I think it 363 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: was James Bondwin who said black men are dying because 364 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: white men refuse to control their imaginations. Damn you know, 365 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: James Bonwen always the bars and anything James Bonwin did, 366 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. 367 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: That's a talented it was. That was a talented, talented, 368 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: talented man. 369 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: Uh. And the fact that I feel bad that society 370 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: has not elevated beyond his words so that they don't 371 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: have meaning anymore. In a like, in a world where 372 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, we had real progress, we'd be looking at 373 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: James bow and shit like I mean, I guess back 374 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: in the day, you know what I mean, Like yeah, 375 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: But then obviously people realize how wrong they were from 376 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: people like James Baldwin talking and we moved on, and 377 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: no we're still talking about it. Update that to black 378 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: people because black men and with black women are murdered 379 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: by fearful men with too much. 380 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: Power and entitlement. Absolutely, man, I think, and. 381 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: I saw this as a critique of him, and it's 382 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: hard for me to truly accept the critique. And I'm 383 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: not saying that because I'm a black man. I'm just 384 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: saying it because I would feel this way about anyone 385 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: who was writing at that time. But it was so 386 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: long ago that writing general constructs were when you talked 387 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: about an entire race, you would say man for most 388 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: plays most of the time. Yeah, now was it that's 389 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: fucked up? That the world was fucked up? Blah blah. 390 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: But I just hate when people promoted as an individual failing, 391 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: like James Baldwin only code cared about black men. He 392 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: would say the black when the black man is able 393 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: to do suthing. And it's like, you know that at 394 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: that time, man was inserted for race. 395 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it mean it's almost like an inclusive thing. 396 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. That being said, obviously everyone has all kinds of hangouts, misogyny, 397 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: blah blah, blah. I'm sure he had some. I'm sure 398 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: in this work. I've seen some of it myself, But 399 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: I just hate that one specific criticism that people levy 400 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: at him, not saying this what you did? I know 401 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: you didn't do that, But I hate it when people 402 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: would hit him with like, you know, let me hit 403 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: you with this twenty twenty wokeness. It's like you knew 404 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: that everybody was talking the same way in nineteen fucking 405 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: fifty three, you know what I mean? Anyway, and ugly 406 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: politicians with too much power in entitlement. This scene's far off, 407 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: but vote, vote, vote, push the low lifes back under 408 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: their rocks. Still, thank you? 409 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 4: Come on? 410 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really don't. It's been brewing on Twitter and stuff, 411 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: and you see it. But there's a lot of false 412 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: ultimatums and a lot of a lot of people pushing 413 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: rhetoric that will probably help the country in the long run. 414 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: Maybe hopefully one day we'll go, yeah, we made it 415 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: to this point, but this thing where they're like, fuck 416 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: short term games. We only want the hail Mary at 417 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: which we know is a low percentage we probably won't get, 418 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: and we'll end up getting more Republican nightmare for however 419 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: long until we get to this point. I feel them. 420 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: But you know, I would be dishonest if I got 421 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: on this mic and was like, yet, fuck voting. Uh 422 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: we I mean democrats bad too, Like if I to me, 423 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: that feels very disingenuous. I think you can say both that, 424 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's some Democrats that you would like to 425 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: see do better, and all this shit or just the 426 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: way government works you would like to see do better. 427 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: Right, But if it's them, itself is fucked up, which 428 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 3: I completely understand. 429 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: Right, But if you think you can change the system 430 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: without any level of people working on the inside of 431 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: it as well as on the outside, I just feel 432 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: like your entire point of view is flawed. Like, you know, 433 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: like people say shit like, well, we needed protests to 434 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: get you know, to get George Lloyd's you know, killers 435 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: rout to justice, and I'm like, I agree with that. 436 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: We did need the protest. I don't think without those protests. 437 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: And I mean all of it, the looting, the rioting, 438 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: all the shit. Not that I think all of it 439 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: was done by black people for black lives, but whatever, 440 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: A lot of that s made headlines because people were 441 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: fucking shit up. 442 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: Whatever I think that pressure did help. 443 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: But you know what else helped, you know, bringing in 444 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: Keith Ellison, that's an elected official, you know what I mean, 445 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: like having people at the helm that were ready to 446 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: be listened to you. Because I'm gonna tell you straight 447 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: up right now, if you had a Republican like everything 448 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: over there, not, those guys would be walking free. They 449 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't even have arrested them, of course. So you know 450 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: it takes both. You know, Obama just held a town 451 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: hall thing and not fifteen minute a little panel thing, 452 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: and he was saying, you need both. You know, he's 453 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: always said you need both, Loki, But you know, I 454 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: just think you do need both. And if that means 455 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: some resentment will occur from either side towards the other, 456 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: that's fine. But in my holistic view, you can't make 457 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: this shit work without agitators and your co conspirators inside. 458 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: You need it all. An interesting and funny podcast. This 459 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: is from him MS J d Okay. I don't know 460 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: how to announce that it's a lot of random letters. 461 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: This podcast absolute Jim. I usually listen to work and 462 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: now at home while I work. Roder Karen can always 463 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: be counted on for insightling, funny takes. I love that 464 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: they don't take themselves too seriously. I love the crack jokes. 465 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: I recommend it to everyone. Thank you you. That's the 466 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: big element to all this. Okays, as thoughtful as we 467 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: can be. At the end of the day, I'm getting 468 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: my laugh phone. It's gonna be something at the end 469 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: of the day. I that's when it took me a 470 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: while to get used to it, because I know other 471 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: people will sometimes take me seriously though. I'll see somebody 472 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: just this week quoted us something I said that was 473 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: I was like. 474 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: Damn, that was really smart. I said that wow. And 475 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: but but a little bit. 476 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: I have to take myself not too seriously, because if 477 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: I took myself that seriously, I wouldn't even do a 478 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: podcast where my world, my voice was recorded and went 479 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: out to everybody, cause cause because then this feels like 480 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: too much pressure. 481 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: So it's just us talking, hanging out. Wonderful, wonderful show. 482 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: This is by Joe Baltimore, who says, love the show, 483 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: love the energy, great sens, a human Karen's laugh, thank you. 484 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: They spelled Karen with a y. 485 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: K A R y n S. 486 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: Come on, y n S. 487 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: I guess she's trying to keep you away from the 488 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: white Karens. I don't know. 489 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 4: It needs to be a separation he or she. 490 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. Joe could be in the right best 491 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: podcast ever. If you want to laugh and learn, most 492 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: laugh mostly laugh all day. This is what you want. 493 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: Great commentaril on many aspects of black life in America. 494 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: My favorite podcast. Oh thank you RF now, thank you, 495 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: appreciate you. And then we got one last one from Canada. 496 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: What's going on your hoser? 497 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: What is going on up there? 498 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 5: They? 499 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is true, but I've seen 500 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: something online that they was up there going like, y'all 501 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 3: tied the police brutality, y'all can come on up. 502 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 2: Hell oh nah, they got it up there too, so 503 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: you gotta be careful. 504 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: They got it everywhere. They just beat you. They just 505 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: beat you. 506 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: They just beat you, right, They just beat you at 507 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: the end of the maple syrup bottle. 508 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so God, because the blacks up there still like 509 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: it's problems. Don't get don't let the sweet sweet taste 510 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: fool you. 511 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: You'd just be covered in bacon and ham, but you 512 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 3: can still get your ass whooped. 513 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: They'll beat you down and then they're gonna be like, uh, 514 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, you. 515 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: Know how fast you were going to boot? Like, what 516 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: are you talking about? 517 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: Beep beep beep? Come on? Uh, thank you Roydan and Karen. 518 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: I've been listening to this podcast for about a year now, 519 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: stumble on it through geek Twitter. I dore the down 520 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: to earth logic and comedic approach to topics of all kinds. 521 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: Thanks to the both of you from Canada. Rachelle, thank you. 522 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: Uh and it says rude Abby as the user name 523 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: on on on the Itunesday, thank you so much. I'm 524 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: glad you stayed with us for a year. I mean 525 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: that's shoot, that's a long time time. A lot of 526 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: people don't make it that long. I've had podcasts that 527 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to listen to and just it didn't curl right, 528 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: and I didn't last that year. 529 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 4: Yem all right? 530 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: Episode one fourteen is where we start. For the comments, 531 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: you can go to the black autotips dot com leave 532 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: comments on the episode. So all right, we got one comment. 533 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: The episode was called cooking on Facebook Live. Monica says, 534 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to take advantage of how much to say 535 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: how much I adore episode twenty one to twelve with 536 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: Ray Sonni. It was one of those where you check 537 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: how much time is left because you don't want it 538 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: to end. And Rod, it took with me that you 539 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: didn't get to do any of the usual segments, but 540 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: that was in no way of disappointment. Hearing Ray react 541 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: in real time to the Rod and Karen couple story 542 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: we all Know in Love was so sweet. She also 543 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: asked great questions. It was a terrific conversation. Also, as 544 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: a fan of Massaundry podcast Race and Ray's previous one, 545 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: I forget the name of that one. I know three 546 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: is in three of Negroes. I have followed this woman 547 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: through several iterations. I have four five podcasts I cannot 548 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: even remember we've been through. 549 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: We've been with her through all of them. 550 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: I can't even remember. The woman's name was Maria. Maria 551 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: Heynick was the hell Cast one of them. And I 552 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: like that one. I just like Ray. 553 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: I just like listening listening to her talk. 554 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: I think she's very smart, funny, insightful. She makes me think, 555 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I'll hit her up like a text 556 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: or something and just be like, you know, how's everything 557 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: going on? You know what you're up to, and then 558 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: without fail, we always end up on some random ass 559 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: changing about uh a group of people I like to 560 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: call these niggas uh that will remain nameless, but we 561 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: just end up talking about some random ship man. She's uh, 562 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't even think about it, but I 563 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: have really been listening to Ray since uh whenever Three 564 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: of Negros was so. 565 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 6: Ago. 566 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt like I never heard Ray so animated, 567 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: very ineborated. Ray was hilarious and enjoy to here two 568 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: thumbs up. Oh, I have heard her animated before. Okay, 569 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: I've listened to her on several in several different scenarios, 570 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: so you know, I remember, uh, my favorite, My favorite 571 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: thing about Three Negros is that, you know, while it 572 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: seemed like everybody was obviously cool, you know what I mean, 573 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: Jim and Jim was was was probably the most cognizant 574 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: and like aware and thoughtful as far as the dudes 575 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: on the show, but Neruda was one of those people 576 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: that just said, shit stumbles into ship like gets too comfortable, 577 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: and it was never nothing too egregious. But you know, 578 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: Ray is very much like an active listener and pays attention. 579 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: She was like what's happening. 580 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: Here, right, She'll cut you off at the past, And 581 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: it used to be some of my favorite moments was 582 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: Narruta Narrato, Neruda saying some shit that was like either borderline, 583 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: either offensive, or at least at the very best, not 584 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: well explained. And he could mean something, he really could 585 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: mean something like that's not bad. But Ray would be like, hold. 586 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: Up, stop, She's like, let's flush this out. 587 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: And I used to love those moments because it took 588 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: it's like narrative and didn't realize he was in the 589 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: ring with a prize fighter, so like he was like, 590 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: it would take him a few punches before he was like, Oh, 591 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is stupid at shit, and then it was. 592 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: I think the reason the show still worked for me 593 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: is that most of the time, if it was a 594 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: dumb ass point or something stupid that he couldn't really explain, 595 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: he would relent and give up and be like, Yeah, 596 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm talking about anyway, let's move 597 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: on to the next thing. Sometimes yeah and that, and 598 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: but the thing is, my brain works very similar to 599 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: Ray's in that way that when someone says something to 600 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: me that I don't understand or I find to be 601 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: like possibly stupid or whatever. I kind of pounced to 602 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: be like, okay, so explain this. I don't want to 603 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: jump down your ship though, but I want to understand 604 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: fully before I jump down your ship. You know, that's 605 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: why people think it's some logic behind it. Yeah, it's 606 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: why people say they love hearing me with Justin. You 607 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: love hearing me frustrated because Justin would say something and 608 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, hold up, no, we need to examine 609 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: that real quick. No, no, but yeah, I'll saw all 610 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: of the episode Nick and Reds. They are like family 611 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: and it's always genial pleasure when they're on. 612 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely podcast fam. 613 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: Like that, real fam talk to them all the time 614 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: and people, yeah, man, like, that's one of the things 615 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: that you know, you gotta take the good with the bad. 616 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: And one of the good things about the quarantine is 617 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, people are home more, people are less busy 618 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: at work and traveling and stuff, and people can make 619 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: time for you. Tomorrow at three pm Eastern time, we're 620 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: supposed to have Roy Wood Junior on the show. Looking 621 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 1: forward to that now. Did I email him today and 622 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: asked was he gonna be available for three pm? To day. Yes, 623 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: I did. Why because I woke up and thought it 624 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: was Sunday. Why because every day is the same fucking 625 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: day now. Anyway, I gained the day back. But he 626 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: hit me up and was like, I can do it 627 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: today if y'all need me to. I was like, oh no, no, nope, nope, 628 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm tripping. Please come through tomorrow. So that'll be dope 629 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: to have Roy with Junior back on the show. It's 630 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: been so long at him, but like legitimately one of 631 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: the funniest motherfucker's period, like when. 632 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 4: Everything opened back up. Y'all ever get to see him live? Yeah, 633 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 4: it is a ball. I laughed my as. 634 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: We've seen him live I think twice now, and I 635 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: mean both times cracked us the fuck up and does 636 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: great work at the Daily Show and all that stuff. 637 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: So it'll be cool to hear about They talk to him, 638 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: and he's been doing so much funny stuff on the internet, 639 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 1: funny stuff with the Daily Show and like going out 640 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: into the community and like helping and cleaning up and stuff. 641 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: So just a genuine good person. But yeah, that's one 642 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: of the things I like about the Quarantine is like, 643 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's so hard to get Reggie and Nick 644 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: in the same time slot on the show. We've been 645 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: able to get like one or one of them individually, right, 646 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: But you know, to ask, because you know, it's to 647 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: asking to be like, can y'all coordinate y'all schedule into 648 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: something that is gonna align with what we're doing and 649 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: we're flexible, We'll figure it out. 650 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: Right, because you know, regif being in the Superstar and 651 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: traveling and acting on Broadway and all that type. 652 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: Of stuff, right, And so to be like, hey, can y'all, 653 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 1: you know, can y'all figure that out for us and 654 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: be able to pull it off? 655 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: I mean that's so dope. You know, hate that it 656 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: happens this way. 657 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: We hate that everything slowed down like this, but we 658 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: glad we got them in the same spot. 659 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: Love to get to talk to my friends. 660 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: I found myself too heartbroken to contribute feedback last week, 661 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: but I couldn't let that happen again this week, even 662 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: if the world is still a dumpster fire. Love you guys, Monica, 663 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: thank thank you well. I'm glad you enjoyed those episodes. 664 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: You do. The Poe was do you ever go live 665 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: on your social media accounts? I don't have social media, 666 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: yes or no, Yes. 667 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 4: I do. I haven't done it in a hot minute, 668 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 4: but I do. 669 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 2: Though, Okay, when's the last time you did it? 670 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 3: Oo? 671 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 4: Been years? 672 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: I think the last I will put you under the 673 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: no cast. 674 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: Okay with then I'm a note. Then yeah, that's because 675 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: I said I don't do it that often. 676 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: If it's been years, that's enough. 677 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 4: Okay, we didn't know. I didn't knock me off the list. 678 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 4: Not bad. I subtract one. 679 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 7: Mm. 680 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: I bet a lot of people cheated like that. I 681 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: don't I don't have social media. Only two percent of 682 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: the artist doesn't even have social media. 683 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 4: Oh, somebody about the marriage Blage concert. 684 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: But that was last year? 685 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: Was it was it this year? 686 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: That was last year with my mom? 687 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so I guess that counts. Yeah, you go live 688 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: boom back into Yes, it's thank you. 689 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 690 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: Thirteen percent said yes, that's not a lot of people. 691 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: And I think it's because it's one of those things 692 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: where for me personally, I creatively did not understand the 693 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: point I need to understand this. That thing quest Love 694 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: brought up, you know, the beginning of the show, or 695 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: that I brought up that quest love it brought up 696 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: in his book is if I don't understand something creatively, 697 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: I will wrap my brain around it until I either 698 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: get it or I just push it off and go okay. 699 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: I will come back to this when I have something 700 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: to contribute. And I didn't understand going live and why 701 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: people did it. And I know people think it's really simple, 702 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: it's no big deal, you don't need to understand anything, 703 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. That's fine for their brains. But I 704 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: can only live in the brain I have, and the 705 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: brain I have wants to find a use, and I 706 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: think the cooking thing was a big use for me. 707 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: I had had several ideas before this that were like 708 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: I was gonna go live and give like my top 709 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: five NBA players or something, or go live and do that. 710 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, these are ideas I have, but they 711 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: were less fleshed out, and they then they, you know, 712 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: they get into the work category where it's quasi, you know, 713 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: like it's quasi, like I gotta come up with some 714 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: work shit and maybe I'll incorporate it into my Facebook 715 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: cooking thing where I'll be talking about NBA players and 716 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: shit and cooking. You know, maybe we'll do that. But yeah, 717 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: so I just wanted to be to add something of 718 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: service first and then figure it out from there. 719 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm kind of I guess I kind of 720 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 3: need a reason, you know, cause, like I said, I 721 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: did it when me and your mom went to see 722 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: Mary J. Blige, which was a lot of fun. I 723 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: did it when we would when went what was it? 724 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 3: A was a negro con and allso kind of like 725 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 3: like I do that when we do live. I know, 726 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 3: I went live when we did our show here in Charlotte, Like, 727 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 3: but for me, it. 728 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 4: Has to be I guess it has to be a 729 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 4: reason behind it. 730 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: You know. 731 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 3: I've never went live just because if that makes sense, 732 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: like an event is happening around me that I feel 733 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 3: like it's important enough to go live. Like when your 734 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: mama had a birthday party, I went live then, you know, 735 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 3: so it like if something's going on, I was like, Okay, 736 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: this is a live moment. I'll do it like that, 737 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 3: you know, and it don't have to be nothing important. 738 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 3: But I'm like, Okay, this is a live moment for 739 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 3: me that I feel like sharing. 740 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: And then eighty five percent of the audience say no, they 741 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 1: have not gone live, So that makes sense. Laylor rights, 742 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: saying good. Going live scenes narcissistic to me, very look 743 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: at me. I can understand going live as a podcast 744 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: traffic stop or showing how tos, but not when you're 745 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: in the car holding a stack up to your ear, 746 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: or at the club making it worthwhile and beneficial layla. 747 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: That is an interesting choice of words. What care hcause 748 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: the thing I would add is that I think having 749 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: social media is narcissistic by itself. 750 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, just the. 751 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 3: Nature because when you post something, you're going, these are 752 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: my thoughts. When you post a picture, You're going, this 753 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 3: is my family. Any interaction that you have is about you, 754 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 3: just period, because you know, you do have lurkers and 755 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 3: all that stuff. 756 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 4: But for the fact that most people. 757 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 3: Are sharing intimate things in their lives and it doesn't 758 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: mean it's important or. 759 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 4: Anything like that. Some of them some events aren't. But 760 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 4: it's just the interaction with other people. 761 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: And I do understand you know what you say, But 762 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 3: just social media itself is designed for that type of 763 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: personality and everybody has a little bit of that. 764 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: Endm Well, I think also like social media exacerbates the 765 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: narcissism and us, you know, and it's that thing where 766 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: like I'm not I think there's arguments for why it's 767 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: good because it has helped some people gain confidence. Yeah, 768 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: it also has stripped people of certain confidence, you know, like, hey, 769 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you know, I'm seeing all these pictures 770 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: of these women that's all cut up and using fucking 771 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: waste trainers and shit, and it's making me feel inadequate 772 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: in my body. So I've seen that before. But I've 773 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: also seen people that's like, yo, I love me more 774 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: now because I can see what I can see what 775 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: other people see, or I can see a way to 776 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: like myself. 777 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 2: So it's just a catch twenty two. 778 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: And I also had an aversion to going live just 779 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: to talk to people about certain shit because if one, 780 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: we had the podcast, which I'm sure is another act 781 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: of narcissism in a way, So we had the podcast already, 782 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: so I was good on that. I didn't feel like 783 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: I need to express myself so they know how I 784 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: feel about you know, Black Lives Matter or something like nigga. 785 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: If you don't know how I feel, you just don't 786 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: want to know, you know, like you know what I mean. 787 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: It's like, so that that didn't feel the need to 788 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: do that. But I bet people who don't have that 789 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: outlet might feel like, let me go live because I'm 790 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: feeling a certain way about this, that and the other, 791 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: and this is gonna tell people where I stand. And 792 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: they don't know what I feel about these issues. And 793 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, I may have friends that are posted some 794 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: dumb shit and so let me go on Instagram live 795 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: and tell them I feel this way, you know. But 796 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: it's all narcissistic because the end of the day, you're 797 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: holding something pointed at your face, pointed out the rest 798 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: of the world. 799 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also for some people, particularly with everything being 800 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 3: shut down, so people are lonely. They're lone, they feel 801 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 3: kind of cut off from everybody and everyone, and when 802 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 3: they go live, it's that human interaction digitally that they 803 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 3: normally would go to the club, but go outside or 804 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 3: go running or do whatever their normal routine is, and 805 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, those they normally wouldn't have went live, 806 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 3: but they're going line for the fact that they need 807 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 3: that interaction with other human beings so that they know 808 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 3: that they're not alone. 809 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the quarantine, you see a lot more people 810 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: go live. I've seen a lot more, you know, cause 811 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: it's like we're missing in the face interaction. Like not 812 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: to get too deep, but I feel like a lot 813 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: of the protest crowd is because people been indoors correct. 814 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they don't care about George Floyd. 815 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they don't care about Black lives matter. 816 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: I think they do care. But when they know it's 817 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: dangerous enough to die in a pandemic because of this, 818 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: or you're gonna possibly get sick, and you know people 819 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: are out there, not social distance, not wearing masks, any 820 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: of that shit, and you know this is a possibility 821 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: for you, but you still go out there. Part of 822 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: it is bravery and a love for black lives, but 823 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: part of it is also we don't ever get to 824 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: be around people anymore. You're not going to work as often, 825 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: you're not going to church, you're not hanging. So this 826 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: is now a place where we're congregating under one calls 827 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sure, but you know, not just it's not 828 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: all chance and anger and raise. Some of the shit 829 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: is just small talk. Some of the shit is, hey, 830 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: I just need to be out here and mask with 831 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: other people and show that. And I think that's you know, 832 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: I think that's real. You know what I mean, and 833 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: I think also people want to hear from certain people. Yes, 834 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: and as long as that is a thing, then it's 835 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: almost like if it's narcissism or whatever, then it's kind 836 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: of feeding that narcissism, because like if you if you 837 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: go on people's live but you don't go live yourself, 838 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: which is fine, then you are saying I do want. 839 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 4: To see people go live, I just choose not to. 840 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 4: I want to see other people, right. 841 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: You know I would. It would just depend on how 842 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: you see. 843 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 3: There's a lot more people just like that. They personally wouldn't, 844 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 3: but they will consume other people. 845 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: I think it would depend on your word choice and 846 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 1: just how you feel about the person, because one person's 847 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: narcissism is another person's confidence. In this instance anyway, Kim, 848 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: because I'm we're not talking about obviously clinical narcissism, Kim 849 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: Doc says, I thought about going live but being off 850 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: camera and playing my fire playlist and some deep cuts 851 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: from my iTunes cint of live, but that would be 852 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: that would be shut down. So maybe if I do 853 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: a zoom listening session where the fam and friends whoever 854 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: wanted to joint come through and vibe, I'm not DJ night, 855 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: so it ain't that important at this time. Yeah, And 856 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: I think, uh, the other thing with live is you 857 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: don't know what the audience will be. You don't know 858 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: who's gonna want to see it, who's gonna give a fuck, 859 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: who's gonna come in and talk and contribute to the 860 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: conversation or or whatever, And so that's that, you know, 861 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: there's that too. I think if people knew for a 862 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: fact every time I go live, four hundred people will 863 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: want to see it, then people will probably do it 864 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: more often. But the like, you probably feel bad if 865 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: you go live and like two people is watching. You know. 866 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: The other day I watched somebody go through their plants 867 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: on their balcony and it was just me and them, 868 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 1: like they was live and I was just in there 869 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: hanging out watching them talk about playing. 870 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 4: And that's fine. 871 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 3: I've been in there it has been two or three 872 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 3: people and the person was just fine and ay, it 873 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 3: was just the talking and they you know, they did 874 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 3: their thing. Because a lot of times it's not even 875 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 3: about the the interactions. 876 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 4: I just want to know there's other people out there. 877 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: Well. Also with Facebook, you can they had an option 878 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: where you can share it to your page, so people 879 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: can see it later too. 880 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 2: But yes, it's all interesting. It's all new to me 881 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: to live. 882 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: Shit. So we got twenty fifteen, ma'am. This is a 883 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: trade of Joe's. Yes it is. 884 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 2: We had five comments. 885 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: Let's see here and says I have to confess that 886 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: I used to be a Burger king loyal customer for 887 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: years and when they had a restaurant across the street 888 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: from my office, the convenience made it taste good. I 889 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: have no regrets. You make the best of your situation. 890 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put it this way, and okay, And 891 00:42:53,800 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: it's never a quality endorsement for anything when you say 892 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: you make the best of your situation. 893 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 4: You know, like that sounds like she was like practicimity. 894 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like rom and pride. 895 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. That sounds like spam. You know, 896 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: they don't sound like you. 897 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 4: Like I was just working with a hat. 898 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: You know what this is? This is any man that 899 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: has ever complimented his girl with an Instagram post that 900 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: read something like this. Today, I just want to give 901 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: craze and honor to my queen who held me down 902 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: even through all the cheating and abuse, and even when 903 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 1: I had a baby with her sister. She still stayed 904 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: here and raised the baby because she's a good woman, 905 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: unlike the rest of you thoughts. Okay, No, she may 906 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 1: not look attractive. Okay, she might not look like all 907 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: the dimes I used to fuck and all the models 908 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: I follow on Instagram. But you know what, she is 909 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: faithful and loyal and she has been here from the 910 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: bottom and she is with me now at the top. 911 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 2: Okay. 912 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 4: So today when burger King's saying. 913 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 2: About today is your birthday? 914 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: No, that's what she's saying about, birkenh today, happy birthday. 915 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: That's what you said when you said made the best 916 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: of your situation and convenience made it take That is 917 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: the she held me down. Burger King held you down. Yeah, 918 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: that's the she held me down. Of yelp reviews over there. 919 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 3: I didn't have another choice your plotted in your scheme, 920 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 3: burger King, don't no restaurant won't happy now through. 921 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: No restaurant want this. Okay. 922 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 2: You you may think that was a compliment. 923 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: Burger King is somewhere like damn, just slap me in 924 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: my face on it. I mean, I guess since I 925 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,879 Speaker 1: couldn't have I didn't have a car and I worked 926 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: in burger king. They held me down. That's burger king 927 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: right there, like really right in front of my salad. 928 00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 1: You're gonna say that. 929 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: Angela says, love you guys so much. 930 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: I'm frequently listening and shaking laughing at jokes and plunt 931 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: us Rider can really help us through these times. 932 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 2: Thank you for making so much content. 933 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: The dude that lot about being robbed taught at a 934 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: Christian school that was founded because the government. 935 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 2: Made Georgia schools desegregate. 936 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,439 Speaker 1: The founders of the school were Tatnall Square Baptist Church 937 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: and Mercer University. They kicked an African American man who 938 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: attended Mercer you down the church steps when he tried 939 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: to attend church one Sunday. Religious Jesus would want us 940 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: to kick your black ass down these steps. It may 941 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: have been the pastor, but I don't want to lie. 942 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: I think as it was an authority figure that did it. Well. 943 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 1: That seemed like more of a deacon thing than a 944 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: pastor kicking niggaxam the steps. You outsourced that. The school 945 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: website says nothing about this. Of course. Now, this dude, 946 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: I grew up in this town and attended a Periochal school. 947 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 1: In the eighties, we had black students at my school. 948 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: One debate team always debated these types of schools, and 949 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: there was maybe one or two if any attending these 950 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: quoe unquote christ In schools. Most of the black folks 951 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: who could attend private schools avoided that one and looked 952 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: at SCons at those who wanted to go. That tradition 953 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: continues to this day. There maybe one or two black 954 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 1: students at that school. Now shaking my head, damn well, 955 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they got they point across kicking 956 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,439 Speaker 1: people downstairs. Everybody knew, like, yeah, so you definitely don't 957 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 1: want to go to that school. 958 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 4: Not unless you like rumbling downstairs. 959 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: D are right saying deada, why are you acting like 960 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: a rod? Your joke? You joked that you can say 961 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: Karen because you're married to a Karen. But don't forget 962 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: you are a white woman of color. Great shows this week, 963 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: of course, that is our word. Okay, there's a Karen 964 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: in our chat right now with two r's in her name, 965 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: and that's so I said, hard too hard rs Okay. 966 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 2: Said she won't speak to the CEO. 967 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Monica said, I had a job once where my 968 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 1: lunch break was so short that one of the only 969 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: places I could find a spot to sit down and 970 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: eat was the local burger King. It was never ever 971 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: crowded and almost never had a line. All the seats 972 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: in the world to sit down and eat my chick 973 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: wing nuggets. And she felt she c h y q 974 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: n and nuggets in quotes, Uh, I bet you could 975 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 1: maintain six feet distance the other day, I bet yeah. 976 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: Now here's my thing. I don't know if she wrote 977 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: it in today, but it's even E gonna defend this too. 978 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: Is she gonna try to tell me that burger king 979 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 1: is cause well, we didn't know a she loved Arby's 980 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: until I sit brought up that Arby's is trash? So 981 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: is she gonna do the same thing all sime? She 982 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 1: gonna be a burger king truth or two? 983 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 4: I don't think she will. You might from wrong, but 984 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:43,959 Speaker 4: I don't think she will. 985 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: And if she hates Burger King but loves Arby's, what 986 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: does that really say about her? Y'all think about it? 987 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,760 Speaker 2: Ha ha, we all know both are trash. 988 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: Okay, In regards to the looting and rioting that infiltrated 989 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: peace pro peaceful protest to the objection of black participants. 990 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: I've been worried that different cause and agenda would take 991 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 1: over the protest. 992 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 2: But guess what the police have done. 993 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: Such an outstanding job of giving real time evidence a 994 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: brutality and excessive for us that have made the protest 995 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 1: really lays the focus back to the original goal. Yeah, 996 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: yet listen. 997 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 4: They charged them. 998 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 3: If some white man was out there and they pushed 999 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,720 Speaker 3: them down, they was like, well, we're charging y'all. 1000 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1001 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 2: The police are nothing if not consistent. 1002 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 3: Come on, white folks, is like, y'all beat us up too, Yes, bitch, 1003 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 3: you can get somebody, You get somebody. 1004 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:30,919 Speaker 4: These batons too. 1005 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: Since the motherfucking Civil rights era, these motherfuckers have been 1006 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: playing the hits, all the hit nothing but the hits 1007 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: all the time on and you the drums Channel twelve. Okay, 1008 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,800 Speaker 1: don't touch that down, it's got blood on it. These 1009 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: motherfuckers are stay hitting us. And I think that's the 1010 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: one thing that really brought it all back, because I 1011 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: do think, I mean, we have proof that people are 1012 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: trying to agitate the protesters and be amongst the protesters, 1013 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 1: including cops, whether they be stacking up rocks, and bricks 1014 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: of while quote unquote undercover or what like, they have 1015 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: been trying to turn it into. This is not the 1016 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: peaceful black people y'all think they are. They're really just 1017 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of animals and thugs that's just destroying and 1018 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: looting the community, and that's why we have to quell 1019 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: them with violence. We can only fix this through violence, 1020 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: because that's the only way the police know how to 1021 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: to operate with these crowds. You know, while I do 1022 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: think it's more complicated talking about police and police work 1023 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: and what people think are solutions to police work than 1024 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: what we're seeing at the protests, obviously, I think for protesting, 1025 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: messages need to be simple, and there's no simpler message 1026 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: than these dirty motherfuckers are out here beating shit out 1027 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: of people, shooting them injuring people, many of them just 1028 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: being journalists, many of them arresting people who are trying 1029 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 1: to protect stores, which is the thing they claim they 1030 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,439 Speaker 1: want to do, you know. 1031 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 2: All sorts of racial bias, all the stuff. 1032 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, there's no better argument against police 1033 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: than filming the police, because they will show you why 1034 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: the fuck they need to not even be allowed to 1035 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,720 Speaker 1: do the things they do you know I've never seen 1036 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 1: so many white people on the Upper West Side of 1037 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: Manhattan anger at the police on behalf of black people. Really, Okay, 1038 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: it feels surreal. As soon as white people here in NYC, 1039 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: including the press, started getting beat up and arrested, well, 1040 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: let's just say there's a lot of animosity towards the 1041 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 1: police and the supported for the protesters. Yeah. I won't 1042 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: even say I never I mean, I don't live in 1043 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: New York, but I won't even say I've never seen 1044 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: white people so supportive before. I feel like There's been 1045 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: other times white people have been supportive. I just don't think. 1046 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,280 Speaker 1: I just think the conditions of having Trump in office, 1047 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: egging it on, having a pandemic where you can't leave 1048 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: a house, and you're seeing these images. 1049 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 3: On TV over and over, people just in general having 1050 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 3: social jobs. 1051 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: Having social media that is connecting us more than ever. 1052 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: I think those combinations have made white people be more vocal, 1053 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of black people have been demanding that 1054 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: they be more vocal, whether you know, to their detriment 1055 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: or not. And so I think all those things add 1056 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: up and that's why I'm seeing so much. But I'm 1057 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: glad to hear white people getting fed up on our 1058 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: behalf or at least. 1059 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 2: You know, because even when they don't understand. 1060 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:48,760 Speaker 1: Uh even there's a lot of people who are white 1061 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: but they have good hearts, they don't understand it correct 1062 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: and they haven't read up on all this ship and 1063 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: I know that they should. I'm not you know, but 1064 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: not malicious, right, And this has been there's been an 1065 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: outpouring of black people wanting sympathy and understanding for the 1066 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 1: last few months. And there's been a similar impouring of empathy. 1067 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: And I think as you see a president who directly 1068 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: opposes black people who literally want to be left the 1069 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 1: fuck alone, you're starting to see white people activated in 1070 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: a way that can't be ignored by the United States 1071 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: because that it's the paradox, right, white supremacy is not 1072 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 1: really about white people individually people, but white people in 1073 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,800 Speaker 1: mass cannot be ignored or it's not white supremacy anymore. 1074 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: And so that's why whenever we've had progress in this 1075 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: country is because a plurality of white people, even if 1076 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't for the best intentions, even if they weren't 1077 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: prepared to ride or die, they just wanted to be 1078 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: fixed and that's how we've ever really gotten progress in America. 1079 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: There's a bunch of fucking white people. Every time, it 1080 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,479 Speaker 1: has the same way Black people get drug through the mud, 1081 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: get fucked up, and then at some point, why a 1082 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: bunch of white people that these niggas are people, and 1083 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: then we have one of these moments in America, And 1084 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,959 Speaker 1: I think we are in the crux of one right now. 1085 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's the way history has worked. And I 1086 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 3: understand people's anger, and I understand people's frustration, and it's valid. 1087 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 3: But the work that actually needs to be done, the 1088 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 3: laws that actually needs need to be passed and enforced, 1089 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 3: you've got to have white people involved. And I understand 1090 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 3: black people are so angry they just don't want to 1091 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 3: hear from anybody white. Just shut the fuck up, Shut 1092 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 3: the fuck up, shut the fuck up. Okay, I get you. 1093 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 3: But at the same time, when they come to the table, 1094 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 3: you can't be so anti them that you don't even 1095 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 3: allow them to do what they need to do to 1096 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,280 Speaker 3: get to the point that you need to get to. Nobody, 1097 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 3: no one race can get the shit done. We know 1098 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,839 Speaker 3: we can't get it done because they don't listen to us. 1099 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: No way, Yeah, My thing is, I don't even fucking 1100 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 1: want to see. I don't even care that much about 1101 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 1: whether white people get their feelings hurt or not. I 1102 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,760 Speaker 1: don't really care that much about their guilt and stuff. 1103 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I care on a human level, but I 1104 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,879 Speaker 1: don't really give that much of a fuck. I low 1105 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 1: key understand even these grifting ass niggas because there's been 1106 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: like a slate of motherfuckers that are going to make 1107 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 1: money and power moves off of this that are clearly 1108 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 1: single minded individuals that really care more about themselves and 1109 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 1: their brands than us. And there's a lot of people 1110 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: riding this shit into guilty corporations and they're giving them, 1111 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, a platform and shit, And I really, honestly 1112 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: I am disgusted by shit like that. But I haven't said anything, 1113 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna say anything as far as like online, 1114 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm not talking to anyone about I'm not gonna confront 1115 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: anyone at anyone, because this to me feels like the 1116 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,479 Speaker 1: black Me Too movement, where it's kind of like get 1117 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: what you can because this won't last. And you think 1118 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: white people are gonna set this to the new default, 1119 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: then you're gonna be very, very very. 1120 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,439 Speaker 2: Disappointed in a very short period of time. 1121 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: So if now's the time, that's why you see all 1122 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,439 Speaker 1: these black people getting these gripes out that don't got 1123 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: really anything to do with black lives matter. You see 1124 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,879 Speaker 1: motherfucker's being like, well, if black lives matter, then how 1125 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: come you was mean to me at the job. It's 1126 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: like that is not the same as what happened to 1127 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 1: George Floyd. But this is might be one of the 1128 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: few opportunities you get where white people are actually listening 1129 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 1: and white people are apologizing and compromising and trying to 1130 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 1: make amends. This one a few times, and I said 1131 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 1: this on the show a few weeks ago, pressing it 1132 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: as always Okay, let me pat myself on the back, Okay, 1133 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: let me go Facebook lives because I'm gonna get narcissistic 1134 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: real quick. But I told people, man, Donald Trump is 1135 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 1: so racist. He lowered the bar to where even a virulent, 1136 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: fucking racist can come out and be like, I think 1137 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 1: these niggas are people, and everyone has to be like, well, 1138 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: he's better than Trump. Don't matter what they did, don't matter. 1139 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: They Drew Brees fucked up on Tuesday. It's Saturday. Them 1140 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: players on his team are already tweeting how much they 1141 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 1: forgive him because the bar has become that low. This 1142 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,359 Speaker 1: nigga is under the floor with the bar is in hell. 1143 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: The bar is in hell because of this dude. So 1144 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,439 Speaker 1: everybody getting to get out of racism free card seven 1145 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: hundred club. 1146 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 2: Pat Robinson gotta get he He. 1147 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 1: Came out and was like, yeah, Trump tripping right now, 1148 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: like everyone is getting a pass. No one can really 1149 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: call him in the car because they're like, I'm not 1150 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,399 Speaker 1: worse than this nigga, and everybody you have to be like, well, 1151 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,360 Speaker 1: you're not worse than No one's worse than him. He 1152 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 1: is the worst. But yeah, I told you, What did 1153 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: I tell you? Didn't I tell you cause I told you? 1154 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: And when did I tell you a long time ago? 1155 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: And what did I say? What happened when I told you? 1156 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 1: Exactly what just happened? That's what That's what we're experiencing. 1157 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: Can we gonna say. 1158 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 3: Something about to say, Uh, what's sad is that I've 1159 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 3: come to the conclusion with racism the same way I 1160 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 3: come to the conclusion of men caring about women. 1161 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck how you get there. I 1162 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 4: just won't results that will benefit me. And that's the 1163 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 4: end of the day. 1164 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,439 Speaker 3: And once you get to that point where I don't 1165 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 3: give a fuck how you get there, just get there. 1166 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 4: Like like, once you get to. 1167 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 3: That point, a lot of your anger, a lot of 1168 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 3: your frustration, a lot of your your your sadness and 1169 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 3: all that stuff. Not that it won't be there, it 1170 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 3: will not be as intense because you get to the 1171 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 3: point where you go, I don't care you here, Okay, 1172 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 3: let's go. I don't care that you were in here 1173 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 3: last week, last month, last year. 1174 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 4: I didn't care. I don't care if you didn't post nothing. 1175 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 4: Who gets the fuck? 1176 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 3: I look you and an eye you look me in 1177 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 3: out all right, white people, let's go. Once you get 1178 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 3: to that point, it makes it easier for you to 1179 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 3: digest so that all the anger you have is not 1180 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 3: at targeted at that individual person. 1181 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 4: It's actually trying to help you get to your end results. 1182 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 4: Do you want the results or not? 1183 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1184 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: I think also you just can't. There's a fundamental lack 1185 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: of understanding and it takes way too much time correct 1186 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 1: to walk people through the right steps. What people want 1187 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 1: and ideally we all should want this, But when I 1188 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: want someone to understand me, and when I want to 1189 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: understand somebody, and when I want, you know, there's like 1190 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 1: a process and that process is steps, right, There's steps 1191 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 1: of understanding, steps of empathy, steps towards you know, at 1192 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: towards becoming an ally or cocon spirit or whatever whatever 1193 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 1: buzzword people want to use today to be bad at tomorrow. 1194 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 1: That that is an important part of the process, right, 1195 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 1: And I and I get that because once you do that, 1196 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: you have a lot more chance of permanence of them 1197 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 1: being on your side because they went through the right steps. 1198 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 1: Right you. You know, you ideally want to if you're 1199 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 1: trying to convince somebody of to be uh anti uh 1200 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 1: to be on your side for women, right, you would 1201 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: like to walk them through the steps so that they 1202 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: arrived there and they go, I understand why I'm over 1203 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,160 Speaker 1: here completely, so you don't have to worry about me 1204 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: just hopping back over the fence, because I know what 1205 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing over here, and I recognize there's only one 1206 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 1: place to be. To be on the right side of 1207 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: this thing. That takes a lot of work, that takes 1208 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 1: and more importantly, a lot of time. 1209 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 4: Right, which is something I don't have right now. Motherfucker 1210 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 4: I'm goddamn dying, so let's go right. 1211 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: So when you don't have the fucking time, it's like, 1212 00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 1: we gotta take a lot of half measures to get 1213 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 1: people over. He correct. So you're seeing a lot of 1214 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: people come out and be like, what about this shit 1215 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 1: you said? And then you see, you know, essentially if 1216 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 1: they just go, hey, I learned from that, we're just 1217 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: accepting our applications right now, all of them. Last night 1218 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,959 Speaker 1: I tried to I made a joke because I love 1219 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: when people do to who this right? Yes, I've come 1220 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I've come one eighty on that. At first, 1221 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: I was like, this shit is stupid, because every time 1222 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 1: when these motherfuckers try to be helpful or be like, 1223 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: I get it. I understand now I've been reading, I've 1224 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 1: been doing this, y'all just jumped down their throat and 1225 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: be like, but one time back in two thousand and five, 1226 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 1: you said blank. 1227 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 2: And at first I was like, what, how the fuck. 1228 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 1: Is that helpful? But then I started laughing, and you know, 1229 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: once i'm laughing, I'm like, who cares if it's helpful? 1230 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 1: At least it's funny. It's helpful to me because I'm 1231 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 1: laughing and so I tried to get me one last 1232 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: night Mark Cuban put out and I was looking helping 1233 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 1: I find one, but you know, I don't really I'm 1234 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 1: not the best at Twitter receipts, so I don't really know. 1235 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, some people are really good at that. It 1236 01:00:58,920 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 4: is a art today. 1237 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 2: Don't follow celebrities and shit. 1238 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 1: So so he tweeted out something about how he understands 1239 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: racist you know, black lives matter, blah blah. It's like 1240 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 1: this this statement. And so then I was like, oh, 1241 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban, I remember this. We covered it on Bossy's 1242 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: Sports Along a few years back. He said, uh, he 1243 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: was talking about racism. He's talking about Donald Sterling, and 1244 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 1: one of his things is like, you know, we all 1245 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: are a little bit racist. I mean, if I've seen 1246 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 1: a black kid walking down the street, I'll cross the street. 1247 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 1: But I don't feel like it's racist because if it 1248 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 1: was a sad white dude with full of face tattoos, 1249 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: I crossed the street years ago. 1250 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 2: And so I went and found a headline to that article. 1251 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 1: I googled it and then I took a screenshot of it, 1252 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,479 Speaker 1: and then I cut, I cut and chopped it down 1253 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: to just the headline in his face, and I posted 1254 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: it on Twitter and I quote tweeted him and. 1255 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 2: I said this you and I said, oh, I got him. 1256 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 1: I got me one, y'all. I was celebrated, you caught one. 1257 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: I was in the house looking at my phone smiling. 1258 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 1: I said, ooh, I finally I beat everybody to it too. 1259 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Nobody else did it before me. I hit him with 1260 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: the dish you way before anybody else hit him with 1261 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 1: the dish you. 1262 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 2: It was amazing. It was one of the best feelings 1263 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 2: on Twitter. 1264 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:16,439 Speaker 5: Ever. 1265 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: It didn't go viral really, it only got fifty eight 1266 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: retweets one hundred and six seven likes, but it still 1267 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: felt great. So I just wanted to have one to 1268 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 1: be like. This is all. I was giddy. 1269 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 2: And then this nigga responded, okay. 1270 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:35,640 Speaker 1: Mark Human said because I said dish you, and the 1271 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 1: title said Mark Human comes under fire, acclaiming across the 1272 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: street we saw a black head and the hoodie and 1273 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: he says, yes, it was Oh. 1274 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:44,919 Speaker 2: I've learned a lot since then. 1275 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: I used to think the best way to be was 1276 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: colorblind and to never used race agenda as a factor. 1277 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 1: That was a mistake. I've done a lot more listening 1278 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: to people's experiences since then. And I said, uh, that's dope. 1279 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 1: Hope you keep it up. Appreciate the response. And that 1280 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: was all I had to say, because I mean, you said. 1281 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 2: That was a good ass response. 1282 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 4: You know what it's called. 1283 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 1: That is girl. And honestly, I didn't want to spend out. 1284 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,919 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna respond. I really thought, 1285 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 1: don't yeah, no, yeah, the rest of them don't respond. 1286 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 1: I thought it would just be a funny joke and 1287 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 1: then leave it at that. And uh, he was like no, 1288 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 1: I at the time, he made the time and uh. 1289 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: And then because of the way my brain is set up, 1290 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't like harboring petty grudges and ship. So when 1291 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 1: he said he got it, you know, he learned. I'm like, 1292 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 1: all right, cool, good enough of me. It's not my 1293 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 1: job to quiz you on this ship. Have a good one. 1294 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 1: And I moved on with my life. 1295 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, that like that can't you don't even participate, right? 1296 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 4: You get the one person It was like, yeah, my bad. 1297 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 1: I feel like a few weeks ago, a month ago, hey, 1298 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have probably responded that. True, he wouldn't even 1299 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 1: put out that statement. That's why this feels a little 1300 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 1: me too ish and I know it's not the same, 1301 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 1: but get it in while you can get it in 1302 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 1: because you might get an answer, You might get that apology, 1303 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 1: you might get an explanation. 1304 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 4: Come all, hit that grease while it's hot. 1305 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so now's the time. So if a nigga cuts 1306 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 1: you off in line at Cadoba, hey, bring it up, 1307 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 1: get you you might get some reparations after shit, I 1308 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 1: don't know. Shout out to my girl Jay from uh 1309 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 1: Teva Queen and Jays's talking about soon you should ask 1310 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 1: her for some money. 1311 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 2: I was like, first of all, I'm that's some. 1312 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 1: Capitalistic bullshit, okay, because then if I got money, what 1313 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do with it. I'm gonna be a black capitalist. 1314 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: Now I got money, and you niggas hate me, so 1315 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 1: you ain't tricking me. Jay. Now I'm gonna be thrown 1316 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 1: in the pit again, y'all. You know, Queen gonna be 1317 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 1: try pit. Ain't you Queen gonna be talking about me 1318 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 1: in the opening segment talking about I don't connect. 1319 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 2: The regular black people no more. 1320 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban gave me a million dollars and now I 1321 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: don't know how to act I don't think so took 1322 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,600 Speaker 1: your while to get out last time, right. I was 1323 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 1: hating everything bagels before I had some money. Is that 1324 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: really what you want walking around on these streets? I 1325 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: don't think so, y'all ain't canceling me. I get money, 1326 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have it on the low. I'm not gonna 1327 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 1: ask no white man in public. 1328 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 4: I ain't nobody gonna know. 1329 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna still be taking pictures in my Ultima before 1330 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 1: I go hop in my Porsch and ride out on 1331 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,000 Speaker 1: y'all niggas. Okay, even he says ride, I don't want 1332 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 1: to like saying I'm wrong, so I won't start now. 1333 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 1: But I will never say another bad thing about Taylor 1334 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Swift and my Martin Martin voice. Damn, are you happy? 1335 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 4: Now? 1336 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 1: You know what? 1337 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 4: Evie? 1338 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 2: That's as close at I'm gonna get to happy about 1339 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 2: all of it. 1340 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: So we'll take it if I can convert one of 1341 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: you negroes at the time to I'm not even trying 1342 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 1: to get y'all to be fans of Taylor Swift. I'm 1343 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: trying to get y'all I'm not a fan of Taylor 1344 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 1: SWI Taylor, if you listen, I'm so sorry, I don't 1345 01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 1: listen to this one's music. Okay, I like share, get off, Okay, 1346 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: that's my box jam. That is the list. She might 1347 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 1: have dope music. 1348 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, because I've. 1349 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 1: Never been inclined to even be curious to check the 1350 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 1: music out beyond that. But what I will say is 1351 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 1: she was doing a lot more than people told me 1352 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: she was capable of doing. 1353 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 4: I was she was the devil. 1354 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: I was told she was the Altright make America great 1355 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 1: again white woman, and it turns out that is not true, 1356 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, And this is one of the problems with 1357 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 1: the silences complicity type of shit, because that's not one 1358 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 1: hundred percent. 1359 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 2: That doesn't line up all the time. 1360 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 4: Her fan base may have been, but that doesn't mean. 1361 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 1: She was right. And and and also it just takes time, man, 1362 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: Like I had this dope conversation today with Chris Lamberth 1363 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 1: on his Mundane Festival podcast with his Preatreon, So you 1364 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 1: guys probably won't hear it, and uh, maybe we'll talk 1365 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 1: about it tomorrow Royal Jinia because he loves sports, and 1366 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk about on Boss Deep. But does 1367 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 1: this video going around of all these black stars in 1368 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 1: the NFL, and they came out and basically said, Hey, 1369 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: I am George Floyd, I am Breonna Taylor, I am 1370 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 1: Trayvon Martin, I am to mea rights and they said 1371 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 1: they wanted the NFL to speak out. In the NFL 1372 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 1: put out a video Roger Goodell himself addressing exactly what 1373 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 1: they said, repeating what they said, and going beyond it 1374 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 1: to say black lives matter, blah blah blah. Now, there's 1375 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 1: some other levels to it that are sports related that 1376 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of the people that are 1377 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 1: angry they either don't understand how the sport works or 1378 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 1: they're just so angry that I think when you bring 1379 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 1: up type Kaepernick's name, they see red. 1380 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 4: Correct. 1381 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: But it's clear to me at this point Roger Goodell 1382 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: wants Kaepernick back in the league. Jay Z obviously wants 1383 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 1: Kaepernick back in the league. They don't have the power 1384 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 1: to do it because it's thirty two owners and they're 1385 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,600 Speaker 1: rich white dudes who don't have to collude to say 1386 01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:56,919 Speaker 1: we don't want that nigger on our team. 1387 01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't to each other to pick them. 1388 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 2: That being said, though, people were down in the video. 1389 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 1: They were saying why didn't these black dudes come out 1390 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: two three years ago when Kaepernick took a knee, and 1391 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 1: if we go down the timeline, I won't get too detailed, 1392 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: but number one, when Kaeernick took a knee, he was 1393 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 1: still in the league. He was in the league for 1394 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,720 Speaker 1: another year after that. So that's one reason that you 1395 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 1: don't see these people being like, we need to make 1396 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 1: sure he's in the league. He wasn't always not in 1397 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 1: the league. Right, So you have that one year that 1398 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,320 Speaker 1: he plays where some players are kneeling with him, some aren't, 1399 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, but there he has a job. There's no 1400 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 1: need to start feeling like he don't. He don't he 1401 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 1: won't ever work again. Right. Then it's then he outside 1402 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 1: of his contract, he doesn't get his contract, he doesn't 1403 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,200 Speaker 1: get signed anywhere. And then people go, well, throughout the season, 1404 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 1: he'll probably get picked, he'll get picked up, and we 1405 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 1: get so late in the season is obvious he won't 1406 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 1: get picked up. Even if someone gets hurt. They'd rather 1407 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 1: roll out there with a nigga that was backing groceries 1408 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 1: than Colin Kaepernick. 1409 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 2: Okay, people go so at that time it's. 1410 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: Kind of lost its meaning and significance because once the 1411 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 1: owners took a knee with the players, and the fucking 1412 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 1: coaches took a knee and all this shit. Drew Brees, 1413 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 1: who says, don't disrespect the flag, took a knee. Take 1414 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: you can find the pictures, guys. Once you see that, 1415 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 1: it's co opted to movie and the knee doesn't mean 1416 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 1: as nearly as much as it used to. You know, 1417 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,680 Speaker 1: Kaepernick's now the symbol, not the knee, right, said this 1418 01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,000 Speaker 1: on Balls Deep. So, I mean, it's been years ago 1419 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 1: at this point, and once again I told you so. 1420 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 1: But the point is people were shitting on these dudes, 1421 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,440 Speaker 1: like why weren't you saying something years ago? Blah blah blah. 1422 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:44,639 Speaker 1: Well it escalated, right because the president escalated it. The 1423 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: owners and their collusion against I call it collusion. I 1424 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 1: don't think it was, but it might not mean the 1425 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,880 Speaker 1: legal definition. But you know what I mean, blackballing him 1426 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,719 Speaker 1: that took that escalated. The killing of George Floyd escalated. 1427 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 1: It's probably the worst killing they've ever caught on tape. 1428 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 1: And so all this shit escalated it to a point 1429 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 1: where now these players feel compelled to speak out and 1430 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:16,719 Speaker 1: lost in the fucking sauce. These niggas are young as 1431 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 1: shit like, this is not really an age when most 1432 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,720 Speaker 1: of us were prepared to fucking speak out at our 1433 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: workplace about. 1434 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:28,879 Speaker 2: Racism in general. 1435 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,640 Speaker 1: That is not to knock most Now, that's not to 1436 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,759 Speaker 1: knock us as young people. We had to make choices. 1437 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 1: That's not to knock the players who didn't do it. 1438 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,760 Speaker 1: That's not the shit on the ones who did. It's 1439 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 1: just a process, the same way as a process for 1440 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift to be thirty and be like, actually, I 1441 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,760 Speaker 1: don't want my father's management company to tell me what 1442 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 1: the fuck to do no more. I love other women. 1443 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: I am a feminist, I am a fuck I love 1444 01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: gay people. I love black lives matter to me. I 1445 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,560 Speaker 1: am a fucking Democrat, slash or whatever you want to 1446 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 1: call it, right, I don't. I'm not a Republican. Shit 1447 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: like that takes time, and so we afford it to 1448 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,360 Speaker 1: the people we empathize the most. 1449 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,560 Speaker 2: We correct, We afford time, especially. 1450 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,080 Speaker 1: If they fit your marginalization. Right. 1451 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 2: I'm a black man. I look at other black men. 1452 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 2: I see they take it. 1453 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,799 Speaker 1: Took jay Z fifty years to get it on some levels, 1454 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, well you know, I afford 1455 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 1: him that luxury. But then at the same token, if 1456 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 1: it took if it took say Trina fifty years to 1457 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,879 Speaker 1: get it, you know, as a black man, I'm supposed 1458 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 1: to be like, well, fuck Trina, it took up fifty years, 1459 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,640 Speaker 1: she should have been known, right, because this is not 1460 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 1: my marginalization. I get she outside of my group. I 1461 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 1: get the shit on that group. That's how most people 1462 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 1: attack it. I try not to. You know, I'm never 1463 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,880 Speaker 1: one hundred sent successful, but I really try not to 1464 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 1: do that to people. I try to be like, look, 1465 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,679 Speaker 1: you meet people where the fuck they are. Everyone's path 1466 01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 1: is that on. That doesn't mean we never say anything 1467 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 1: when you're wrong on the way to wherever your destination is. 1468 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean we have to agree with everything 1469 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,559 Speaker 1: and all that shit, but it does mean I have 1470 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,720 Speaker 1: to leave a little bit of room for the fact 1471 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,280 Speaker 1: that you're a human fucking being and you're developing. You're developing. 1472 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 1: So a twenty five year old black quarterback who doesn't 1473 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 1: have any real job security might be scared to come 1474 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 1: out and be like, I'm gonna make the NFL bow 1475 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 1: down and say this right. 1476 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 3: Because nobody's born into speak it out. Most, particularly most 1477 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 3: Black people are actually tossed and thrown into it because 1478 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 3: something tragic happens and they have to speak out. 1479 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 4: Most people would prefer just to live. 1480 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 3: Their normal ass life and be all right. So you're 1481 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 3: asking somebody that is just tossd to just come out 1482 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 3: and just be the face of some shit and know 1483 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 3: all the right words and know how to say it 1484 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,480 Speaker 3: and be represented like that is impossible. 1485 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,679 Speaker 1: And many of us have the luxury of not having 1486 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,080 Speaker 1: our mistakes dragged out in front of us. We have 1487 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,680 Speaker 1: the luxury of not being asked at twenty one, like 1488 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was about fucking race, like at twenty one, 1489 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm not on the record anywhere for how the fuck 1490 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 1: I felt about blackness, whiteness, black lives, black on black crime. 1491 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm not on the record anywhere. So I can just 1492 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 1: come out and be high mighty at forty and be like, oh, 1493 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,679 Speaker 1: this stupid motherfucker. I'm like, well, he also is fucking 1494 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: young and dumb and probably dumb because we're all dumb 1495 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 1: at that age. It has lived a different life than 1496 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 1: I've lived, you know, and so it might take him 1497 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 1: three four years, It might take him some bad comments 1498 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,720 Speaker 1: before he realizes, oh this is important. Oh you know 1499 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 1: what that thing that I thought was such a simple solution. 1500 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm seeing from the backlash to what I said that 1501 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 1: this is not right, or I'm seeing just from my life, 1502 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: just life experience. I look at the same news you 1503 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,679 Speaker 1: look at, and I see it's not what I thought 1504 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:52,040 Speaker 1: it was. 1505 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, because everybody young has theories, everybody that's old. When 1506 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,360 Speaker 3: you was young, you had theories on what marriage was, 1507 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 3: what kids was, what your life would be about, race, 1508 01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 3: about sexuality. You had your goddamn theories. And some of 1509 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 3: them were true and some of them were wrong. But 1510 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 3: you were allowed to grow privately with not a camera 1511 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,840 Speaker 3: on your face, nobody interviewing you, nobody following you and 1512 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 3: marking down your every move. 1513 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 1: You have people that they're saying, why didn't you say something? 1514 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the video, like, was Saquon Barkley 1515 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 1: even in the fucking league, you know what I mean? Like, 1516 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 1: what was he. 1517 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,000 Speaker 2: Supposed to say? Like this is us putting. 1518 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,439 Speaker 1: Our anger onto these dudes, right, like y'all late, this 1519 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 1: is now my time. Sakon Barkley even got a new contract, 1520 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: Like if he loses his contract behind this and we 1521 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,120 Speaker 1: just gonna have another Kaepernick to be like, well, at 1522 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,879 Speaker 1: least you went out as a martyr. Give some respect 1523 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 1: to the fact that they did risk something. Give some 1524 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,439 Speaker 1: respect to the fact that there's so many black players 1525 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,040 Speaker 1: in that league that didn't say anything. Give real, some 1526 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: respect to the fact that those people on that fucking 1527 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,519 Speaker 1: thing with stars. Patrick Mahomes is on that last year 1528 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 1: when he wanted before he won the super Bowl, maybe 1529 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,360 Speaker 1: it was two years ago, they interview Patrick Mahomes to 1530 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 1: ask him about, hey, you know, if you win this, 1531 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 1: a black quarterback will win the super Bowl, and he 1532 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 1: was like, I don't understand why that's so important. They're like, 1533 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 1: you know Doug Williams. He was like, I didn't even 1534 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,840 Speaker 1: understand why Doug Williams winning the super Bowl was such 1535 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 1: a big deal. I had to go read up and 1536 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 1: learn about that. 1537 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 5: Right. 1538 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 1: That's the fucking point. These niggas are not everyone not 1539 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,840 Speaker 1: born at a fucking activist or woke divist or whatever 1540 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,080 Speaker 1: the fuck. Some of these people are living their lives 1541 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,879 Speaker 1: and they get sucked into it because blackness sucks everyone 1542 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,160 Speaker 1: into this. You don't get a choice. You have to 1543 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 1: find at some point you have to make some kind 1544 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 1: of stand or some statement. It doesn't matter if you 1545 01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 1: don't want to make a statement, that becomes a statement 1546 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: too if you live long enough, right, and so all 1547 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 1: that stuff to say, Like, it's easy to afford that 1548 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 1: to black people if you have a genuine love for 1549 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 1: black people and understanding of our humanity. And that's what 1550 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm able to do for those dudes on that video, 1551 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: and I loved it. 1552 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 2: But it doesn't stop there for me, is my point. 1553 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,800 Speaker 1: I feel the same way when it's somebody that maybe 1554 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 1: a white woman, I feel the same way for them 1555 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 1: having to unlearn bullshit. A white man has to unlearn 1556 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 1: some bullshit. A black man has to unlearn some bullshit. 1557 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 1: Straight people have to unlearn some bullshit. People that are 1558 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, not disabled, not in the disabled community, 1559 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 1: you have to learn to unlearn some bullshita. Everyone. People 1560 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 1: walk around with a fucking like high and mighty attitude 1561 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,559 Speaker 1: like yeah, I just started here. If you keep reading 1562 01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 1: and you keep learning, you keep being around other people, 1563 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna look back at yourself and be like, I 1564 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,559 Speaker 1: didn't know shit at this point in time. 1565 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 3: That's the goal, Like, like, that's the goal, is to 1566 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,080 Speaker 3: learn and grow and evolve and you know, my thing 1567 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,080 Speaker 3: and one part of me that I never want to 1568 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 3: die is my compassion because a lot of these people 1569 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,080 Speaker 3: that are having a lot of themands on these players. Motherfucker, 1570 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 3: somebody says something racist that you at your normal nine 1571 01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,280 Speaker 3: to five, you don't bust in the goo attic and 1572 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 3: burn that motherfucker down. 1573 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 4: What do you do? 1574 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,320 Speaker 3: You go to work, You take care of your paycheck. 1575 01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 3: You continue to take care of your family. That's what 1576 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 3: you do at your job. They're at work too. Just 1577 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 3: because they get paid more. 1578 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 4: Does not mean that they're not at work. 1579 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So all that stuff to say, like I'm I 1580 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:20,800 Speaker 1: would this is why I try to get in the 1581 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:25,480 Speaker 1: business of applauding people for progress rather than only admonishing 1582 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 1: people all the time, because what happens is people get 1583 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 1: so addicted to that community of admonishment. When a nigga 1584 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,720 Speaker 1: makes some progress, they get mad at them for that too. Right, Well, 1585 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,800 Speaker 1: what was y'all two years ago? Have y'all actually sat 1586 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,680 Speaker 1: down and analyzed that video and seen who was even 1587 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 1: in a position to say something two years ago? You know, like, 1588 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,120 Speaker 1: let's be real, you know, unless all the players are 1589 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,680 Speaker 1: going to coordinate it anyway, and then The last thing 1590 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 1: I'll say before I move on out off of that 1591 01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 1: topic is this shout out to the black people who 1592 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 1: work at the NFL, because the work you don't see 1593 01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,599 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, is that right? The black people who 1594 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,719 Speaker 1: say he say, hey, we're not giving up the fight, 1595 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 1: and we're on the inside trying to get Kaepernick back 1596 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,360 Speaker 1: in the league, trying to help public opinion, not to 1597 01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 1: save the NFL from like to say, like, fuck black people, 1598 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 1: how do we get pr for the NFL? Those black 1599 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 1: people are working there to be like, how do we 1600 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:24,680 Speaker 1: save the soul of this fucking, you know, capitalistic conservative corporation. 1601 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,959 Speaker 2: How do we on the inside work. 1602 01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,799 Speaker 1: On the diversity of initiatives, work on Black Lives Matter initiative, 1603 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,400 Speaker 1: work on social justice campaigns. 1604 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 2: It's not just jay Z. 1605 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 1: It's not just one person, Like, there are people who 1606 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,160 Speaker 1: have fucking jobs there who are like, what do we 1607 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 1: do to make this statement happen? 1608 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:42,800 Speaker 5: Now. 1609 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I don't know anything more than 1610 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 1: anyone else, but I would not be surprised if all 1611 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:54,320 Speaker 1: this was not coordinated via the NFL office period. And 1612 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,760 Speaker 1: I know how it looks like these players force the 1613 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 1: NFL into this. I wouldn't be surprised that this was 1614 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:03,160 Speaker 1: like when Joe Biden used to flow ideas so Obama 1615 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,040 Speaker 1: could come in and dunk, like I would not be 1616 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 1: surprised that the NFL is like, we want to come 1617 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 1: down on the side of this, but we got a 1618 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 1: horrible history. We look terrible right now, and Roger Goodell 1619 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 1: and the people that work in this office are very 1620 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,120 Speaker 1: desirous to be on the right side of history, but 1621 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 1: we know our owners aren't. So we could get the 1622 01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,600 Speaker 1: fucking players to look like they recorded some videos on 1623 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 1: their phone on their own and then now we can 1624 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,280 Speaker 1: come on the back end and be like, yes, like 1625 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:34,040 Speaker 1: our player said, we support them and we support black 1626 01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,640 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, because Roger Goodell been trying to 1627 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 1: make this happen. You know, It's just it's just hard 1628 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 1: to write about because people just mostly see this dude's 1629 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,360 Speaker 1: face and scrounge up and think he's just like a 1630 01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,599 Speaker 1: racist piece of shit. And I'm not saying he's not. 1631 01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't know this nigga, but I know that he's 1632 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,599 Speaker 1: been very desirous to not look like a racist piece 1633 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,559 Speaker 1: of shit. He doesn't want to look like he doesn't 1634 01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 1: want Colin Kaepernick in the league, you know, and he 1635 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,559 Speaker 1: has a difficult line the walk because you also can't 1636 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,680 Speaker 1: look like you want him in the league because you 1637 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,080 Speaker 1: do work for them thirty two owners who don't want 1638 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 1: him in the league. So anyways, that did not mean 1639 01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,760 Speaker 1: to go on that tangent. But that's a big thing 1640 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:14,720 Speaker 1: that's happening. 1641 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 5: All right. 1642 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,519 Speaker 1: Now, let's get to these uh, let's get to these 1643 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,599 Speaker 1: comments on the pole. Which do you prefer Trader Joe's, 1644 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:29,400 Speaker 1: a Whole Foods, Karen, Oh, Trader Joe's, Trader Joe's. Seventy 1645 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 1: of the audience agrees with Karen, Trader Joe's. What is 1646 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,479 Speaker 1: it about Trader Joe's You like Overhole Foods can is. 1647 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 3: Cheaper overall, Like, like, this shit is cheaper, and you 1648 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:44,200 Speaker 3: get a lot more different stuff, you know, you get 1649 01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,840 Speaker 3: a lot more of like their own personal stuff that's 1650 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,400 Speaker 3: actually really good. Because you know, we walk around and 1651 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:50,720 Speaker 3: shit like that. You'd be like, oh, this is some 1652 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:52,479 Speaker 3: Trader Joe's brand cookies. 1653 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,200 Speaker 4: You be like, oh, this shit is plains. 1654 01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Trader Joe's with the snacks, they got all the 1655 01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:58,759 Speaker 3: goddamn snacks. 1656 01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Trader Jone's is with the snacks, so I fuck 1657 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:09,000 Speaker 1: with that. So uh, I would say, uh, let's get 1658 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:15,080 Speaker 1: to the comments. I think. I'm see that's the other thing. 1659 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't go in Whole Foods that often cause it's. 1660 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,559 Speaker 4: Just not it's so expensive. It's not my viob. 1661 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,160 Speaker 2: I think Trader Joe's for me too, Yeah. 1662 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,840 Speaker 4: Because you're not your fucking going out. 1663 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,400 Speaker 3: I always feel like I'm not gonna say out of place, 1664 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,479 Speaker 3: but you be like, Okay, now the came this fancy 1665 01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 3: ass expensive place. 1666 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,200 Speaker 4: How do you pronounce that? I don't know. I just 1667 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,439 Speaker 4: I feel like this ain't the spot for me. 1668 01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. With Trader Joe's, I want to eat. I want 1669 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:44,439 Speaker 1: to come back soon, right with uh. With Whole Foods, 1670 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 1: even when I leave the I never like can't wait 1671 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,639 Speaker 1: to go back Trader Joe's. I'm like soup dumplings. I'll 1672 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:53,559 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow, you know, come on all right? So 1673 01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 1: Barbara says two words cookie, butter mic drop. 1674 01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:57,759 Speaker 9: Uh. 1675 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,439 Speaker 1: Layla says, I chose Whole food only because it's closer. 1676 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,559 Speaker 2: Traded Joe's too far. The Whole Foods is down the block. 1677 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,519 Speaker 1: Been to Trader Joe's once and it reminded me of 1678 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,519 Speaker 1: all these I didn't know the brands I was. It 1679 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,640 Speaker 1: was small thought. I was gonna have to bag my 1680 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,120 Speaker 1: own shit. I tried to boycott Whole Foods when they 1681 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:18,160 Speaker 1: gave them cop sandwiches the one other time we were protesting. No, 1682 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 1: the other time, not that time, Okay, like five protests ago. 1683 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 1: I couldn't hang because I can't buy my meat and 1684 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,920 Speaker 1: veggies from Target. But now I want to know what's 1685 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,240 Speaker 1: his cookie butter stuff is. Barbara was talking about y'all 1686 01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 1: feel like if you not hitting up the snacks and 1687 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,320 Speaker 1: Trader Joe's, you ain't really being Oh. 1688 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:39,240 Speaker 3: Them snacks are absolutely delicious. 1689 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,680 Speaker 4: We went to Trader Joe's. I think we almost I 1690 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:43,240 Speaker 4: think we've. 1691 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 3: Been doing this annually, particularly around pumpkin season time, and we. 1692 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,559 Speaker 2: Buy punkin spice season time. 1693 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Pumpkin spicy season time. Thank you, I'm sorry, 1694 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:58,160 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. And you know they have pumpkin spice shit 1695 01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 3: that you wouldn't even known, pumpkin spicy cookies and cakes 1696 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:01,599 Speaker 3: and crawl. 1697 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,200 Speaker 4: It'd be so delicious, y'all. 1698 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,519 Speaker 1: Uh Ti says. Trader Joe's is cheaper and they have 1699 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,160 Speaker 1: the pressure meals on lock. If you know how to 1700 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,880 Speaker 1: eat and don't have it in you to cook or 1701 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,439 Speaker 1: even go through motions or order and delivery. They have 1702 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,519 Speaker 1: some tasty options for you in the frozen section. Their 1703 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 1: ethnic food is surprisingly good, even when it's been frozen. Yeah, 1704 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:27,479 Speaker 1: the soup dumplings amazing, And even though their organization when 1705 01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,280 Speaker 1: it comes to sweet sauces and spices makes my. 1706 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:31,639 Speaker 2: Eighty HD going to overdrive. 1707 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:32,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1708 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,360 Speaker 2: I don't understand the layout because they. 1709 01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,680 Speaker 1: Do just put shit everywhere, right, Like I go to 1710 01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,960 Speaker 1: the frozen food section and above the frozen food is candy. 1711 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 3: Yes, right at our level, Like, what what are candies 1712 01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:46,920 Speaker 3: and cookies even doing over here? 1713 01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,920 Speaker 4: I guess they'll make you impulse by but you. 1714 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,280 Speaker 1: Could didn't put them anywhere? I mean there's there's no 1715 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 1: there's there's no rhyme. 1716 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,320 Speaker 4: Or reason to I guess they say when you look up, 1717 01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:57,479 Speaker 4: you'll want to grab it. 1718 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you could do that, and the you can 1719 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:02,599 Speaker 1: put them then put them in the produce out. Who 1720 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:03,120 Speaker 1: gives a fuck? 1721 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,040 Speaker 2: It makes no sense. They just put shit wherever. 1722 01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:07,320 Speaker 4: It's no organized. 1723 01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,559 Speaker 2: What is the fucking numbers on the oil for anything 1724 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 2: is down? 1725 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:10,519 Speaker 1: Any owl? 1726 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:10,760 Speaker 4: Oh? 1727 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 3: I didn't even know they had numbers on the asl 1728 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,799 Speaker 3: I just stopped walking in the Trader jouse because I don't. 1729 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,160 Speaker 4: Pay them sous no attention, because the owls make no sense. 1730 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,280 Speaker 1: I just shot by memory and Trader Joels. I'd be like, 1731 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,280 Speaker 1: I remember it was around here. I got Peter Butter 1732 01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:26,360 Speaker 1: cookies around this area. Yes, And even though their organization 1733 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to sweet sauces, oh yeah, uh, their 1734 01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,439 Speaker 1: flavor combos are worth it. Looking for something different than 1735 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,880 Speaker 1: add their sandwiches. They got you feeling fancy but lazy 1736 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,800 Speaker 1: grass and frozen risotto to pair with something else. I'm 1737 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,679 Speaker 1: working my way through that inventory and haven't been disappointed yet. Yeah. 1738 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,120 Speaker 1: I've only had a couple of things that it I 1739 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,040 Speaker 1: was like, this was whack. Kim Doc says, I like 1740 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,840 Speaker 1: Whole Foods. There was a Trader Joe's near me that 1741 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,719 Speaker 1: serviced a black and brown community up the way. Well, 1742 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,080 Speaker 1: they decided the people near Potomac and Bethesda need to 1743 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,160 Speaker 1: get another Trader of Joel, so they moved the store there. 1744 01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,479 Speaker 1: I went to shop there a whole seven miles away 1745 01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 1: and tendents will mean and stank never sat in front. 1746 01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:07,519 Speaker 1: And that trade to Joe's again. The one near reister Town, 1747 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,160 Speaker 1: Maryland is better anyway, skin folks, kidfolk all around saw 1748 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:15,040 Speaker 1: the earth. I love the handcraft of soaps in Whole Foods. 1749 01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,640 Speaker 1: Sure I'm getting ripped off, but they luxurious and I 1750 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,040 Speaker 1: love their wild Caught seven all right, Oh, I just saw. 1751 01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,720 Speaker 1: We had a lot of different interesting individual experiences. Man, 1752 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,600 Speaker 1: I've never really experienced bad service by either one of 1753 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,640 Speaker 1: those companies or any location, so you know, hopefully I 1754 01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,880 Speaker 1: can keep that streak going. Last episode of the week 1755 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:42,040 Speaker 1: was twenty one sixteen. BWC's Stacey Vincent says, Hey, Rider Karen, 1756 01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,439 Speaker 1: listening to your show in the past was something I 1757 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 1: did to reward myself as working to get through the week, 1758 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,320 Speaker 1: but as I was working to get through the week. 1759 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,880 Speaker 1: But now I find this show is a necessity. I 1760 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,760 Speaker 1: hate that we took two days off after you posted this. 1761 01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Hey, sorry to let you do. I need 1762 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 1: I needed a break, you know, I need to listen 1763 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,479 Speaker 1: to you guys to get through to day. By the way, 1764 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,599 Speaker 1: I had a humongous follow my face with Ray Sonny 1765 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,599 Speaker 1: ask you guys about your love story. I loved it, Stacey. 1766 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:14,479 Speaker 1: Thanks Stacy. Vinyl Collector says Rod and Caron, I'm so 1767 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,800 Speaker 1: grateful for your podcast, Rod. I know you mentioned in 1768 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,599 Speaker 1: the previous episode that you are fortunate that your world 1769 01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,960 Speaker 1: is mostly black paraphrasing, but unfortunately, my experience is the opposite. 1770 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,599 Speaker 2: My world is mostly white and I am a black woman. 1771 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,559 Speaker 1: What you say at the beginning of the episode about 1772 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,280 Speaker 1: not being able to be your true self at work 1773 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,680 Speaker 1: has been my experience for thirty plus years, and when 1774 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,160 Speaker 1: you were talking about it, lol, because my job got 1775 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,400 Speaker 1: me an executive coach, and then our first session when 1776 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,679 Speaker 1: I ask for strategies I can use improve my perception 1777 01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,599 Speaker 1: among executives or the craft a personal brand that shape 1778 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,280 Speaker 1: me as a leader in their mind for promotion, all 1779 01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,680 Speaker 1: she could say was that I just need to be 1780 01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,040 Speaker 1: myself and that if I was authentic that I would 1781 01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 1: be as so I would be as suffocating as it 1782 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:56,080 Speaker 1: feels wearing face mask all day during this pandemic. Yeah, yeah, 1783 01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,920 Speaker 1: be yourself, Okay, be unemployed. She clearly had no idea 1784 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 1: that not only had I been doing that my whole career, 1785 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,720 Speaker 1: but that it had been a necessity to get where 1786 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 1: I was today to even be talking to an executive coach. Oh, 1787 01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 1: I see right, Yeah, I just don't know, like you know, 1788 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,599 Speaker 1: everyone's authentic self is different, and I just think white 1789 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,720 Speaker 1: people get to be authentic at work in a way 1790 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,240 Speaker 1: that we just I don't think we ever will. You 1791 01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,120 Speaker 1: can't even say nigga at word. You know, Black people 1792 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,479 Speaker 1: say nigga in casual conversation with each other all the 1793 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,080 Speaker 1: damn time you break that shit off in an office, 1794 01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,720 Speaker 1: me and your ass is over. Yeah. And I've been 1795 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,960 Speaker 1: in meetings where white people cuss, so don't even tell 1796 01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,920 Speaker 1: me it's well, that's different. It's really fucking not. You know. 1797 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:44,719 Speaker 3: I've heard people get smacked, cuss smooth, the smackout, having 1798 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,360 Speaker 3: a meeting with the door shutting, just just just ratling. 1799 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:53,320 Speaker 1: I've been in a meeting where my boss was cussing 1800 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,200 Speaker 1: and mad and all this shit, and I just joined 1801 01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,960 Speaker 1: him to like like, oh, we could cuss. So I 1802 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,559 Speaker 1: just thought it'd be funny to like, yeah, fuck those people, 1803 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,519 Speaker 1: and he'll be like calm damn man, and put his 1804 01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:04,639 Speaker 1: hand on my shoulder like. 1805 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,519 Speaker 2: You was just cousin. I learned it from you, Like 1806 01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,120 Speaker 2: what so the shit. 1807 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 1: Was just mad different man, like you know, and I 1808 01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:12,680 Speaker 1: know I ain't alone in there. It's got to be 1809 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:16,080 Speaker 1: other black people with that experience. I agreed along those lines. 1810 01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 1: I've been struggling with the other issue you mentioned at 1811 01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,120 Speaker 1: the beginning about having white friends and coworkers check in 1812 01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,000 Speaker 1: during the past one to two weeks. In many instances, 1813 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm the only black person my white friends at coworkers know, 1814 01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,360 Speaker 1: and this week my phone has been blowing up with 1815 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,040 Speaker 1: text and herd emojis and check ins, and frankly, it 1816 01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,519 Speaker 1: makes me angry. I know it's more for them than 1817 01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,479 Speaker 1: for me, and to relieve some of the guilt that 1818 01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,599 Speaker 1: they are feeling right now, or to check off a 1819 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 1: box that they did something to show they are not 1820 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,639 Speaker 1: one of the racest. But it's performative. I say it's 1821 01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,840 Speaker 1: performedive because this is literally the first time any of 1822 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,080 Speaker 1: them have checked in on me. And I've been pretty 1823 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,320 Speaker 1: vocal on my social media about my feelings after all 1824 01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,960 Speaker 1: these unjust murders dating back to Eric Garner. I have 1825 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,400 Speaker 1: a black son, so I have always also been vocal 1826 01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,960 Speaker 1: about it with my mom's friend momb friends in that 1827 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,920 Speaker 1: context that I'm afraid for his future because of how 1828 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,559 Speaker 1: society trees black men. So it makes me think that 1829 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,439 Speaker 1: all this time, either one they knew what was happening, 1830 01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 1: they didn't really care till now or two. They didn't 1831 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,840 Speaker 1: know or educate themselves about what was happening because they 1832 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 1: were only focused on their own experience. It's been a 1833 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,840 Speaker 1: little awakening about what these friendships really are because I'm 1834 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,799 Speaker 1: realizing when they check in, I don't really feel comfortable 1835 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,719 Speaker 1: share how I'm feeling, including the info I just shared 1836 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:27,160 Speaker 1: with you. It has me rethinking my world in the 1837 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,160 Speaker 1: middle of all of this, and not a resentful, a 1838 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,880 Speaker 1: punishing way like you talked about before. Rod, I chuckled 1839 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,240 Speaker 1: at the speed analogy, but more in a mental and 1840 01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,080 Speaker 1: emotional health kind of way. Before. I wish there were 1841 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,800 Speaker 1: people checking in who I could actually share how I'm 1842 01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:40,559 Speaker 1: feeling right now. 1843 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's I've been seeing online how 1844 01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,200 Speaker 3: some people you have black people in all types of spots. 1845 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,200 Speaker 3: I've been seeing people don't line. It did are like, 1846 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:56,200 Speaker 3: I'm just not realizing I'm the black friend you have 1847 01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:57,760 Speaker 3: some people don't line and going, oh, I was a 1848 01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,360 Speaker 3: black friend, but the we you know, I'm not the 1849 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 3: black friend, no mode. You know, so people are a 1850 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,840 Speaker 3: little bit of everywhere on these things. You know, do 1851 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,559 Speaker 3: you have some black people to go? 1852 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:08,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1853 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,160 Speaker 3: The white people that have around me, they better understand, Like, like, 1854 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 3: if you don't understand, I'm just not gonna kick it 1855 01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,439 Speaker 3: with you, I don't got time to fill you in 1856 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,599 Speaker 3: and and and plea for my humanity. You better walk 1857 01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:20,840 Speaker 3: through the front door understanding. 1858 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean dal as black people is difficult 1859 01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:29,200 Speaker 1: enough because we have misunderstandings between us. Correct White supremacy 1860 01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,559 Speaker 1: is so fucked up that we can't all agree on 1861 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,840 Speaker 1: how to navigate this shit. So even within just the 1862 01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,280 Speaker 1: black dash for man, you got people mad about all 1863 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,920 Speaker 1: kinds of internal shit. Hey, you're lighter than me, you 1864 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,120 Speaker 1: have a privilege when it comes to that. Hey you're straight, 1865 01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,040 Speaker 1: and you have a privilege when it comes to that, 1866 01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,040 Speaker 1: you're a man. You have a privilege when it comes 1867 01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,800 Speaker 1: to that. You know, they're you know, you're from a 1868 01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:53,840 Speaker 1: certain city. There's all you're from a different country, different continent. Like, 1869 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:59,439 Speaker 1: there's so much shit already within the shit when you're 1870 01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,960 Speaker 1: talking with your black people in general. So then you 1871 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,200 Speaker 1: add whiteness to it, and that's just another layer of 1872 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:07,559 Speaker 1: frustration that can reach you. 1873 01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:10,120 Speaker 2: And white people. 1874 01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,160 Speaker 1: Right now. I was talking about there's a Christ and 1875 01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:13,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of a joke, but I kind of mean 1876 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,679 Speaker 1: it too white people right now, if they're a good 1877 01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,720 Speaker 1: white person quote unquote, then they confuse as fuck right. 1878 01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,799 Speaker 3: They don't know what to do because the answer varies 1879 01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,240 Speaker 3: per black person. We all did not come to the 1880 01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:26,040 Speaker 3: same conclusion. 1881 01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:30,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot of fucking like conflicting answers out there, 1882 01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,559 Speaker 1: you know, reach out to your black friends. Like my 1883 01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,680 Speaker 1: man Randalf Terrence has said something on Facebook about he 1884 01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 1: white people not reaching out to the black people they 1885 01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 1: know and how that's fucked up, and he's counting it 1886 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,479 Speaker 1: and he notices it. And I've seen other people be like, 1887 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,080 Speaker 1: don't check on me, leave me alone, right, And so 1888 01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,680 Speaker 1: Randolf put that out there, and I've been kind of 1889 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:53,600 Speaker 1: just I I know it's a conscientious choice. Now. I 1890 01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,559 Speaker 1: don't know if it's just a denial thing or what, 1891 01:31:55,680 --> 01:32:00,280 Speaker 1: but I have been very fucking conscientious of just not 1892 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,439 Speaker 1: wanting to get into the explaining this shit the white people. Lane, 1893 01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. It's not my job. 1894 01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't actually give a fuck. I don't. And maybe 1895 01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,439 Speaker 1: it's because I have so little hope, Like I don't 1896 01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,200 Speaker 1: think my message is gonna reach the white people and 1897 01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,439 Speaker 1: they gonna change, and their heart's gonna grow three sizes 1898 01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,599 Speaker 1: that day. If they're white and they give a fuck, 1899 01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:22,960 Speaker 1: they'll come around eventually. 1900 01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,280 Speaker 2: If they don't, who cares that that's they life? 1901 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:28,679 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Keep just keep your life 1902 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,360 Speaker 1: away from mind. If you really don't give a fuck 1903 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 1: about my life, I don't want to interact with you. 1904 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:34,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to educate you, and I don't want 1905 01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:37,439 Speaker 1: to debate you. So you know, so, like I said, 1906 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,439 Speaker 1: Randolph had that thing you put out and I want 1907 01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:40,400 Speaker 1: to say, uncanny. 1908 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 2: Within a couple of days, a white dude I used. 1909 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,880 Speaker 1: To work with hit me up and was like, you know, 1910 01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, if there's anything and my family can and 1911 01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,640 Speaker 1: me we can do for you, blah blah. And I'm 1912 01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:57,040 Speaker 1: not trying to be shady, nigga. We're not friends. We 1913 01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,439 Speaker 1: work together for a little bit for a long a 1914 01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:03,680 Speaker 1: long time ago. I never thought anything necessarily bad about you, right, 1915 01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,800 Speaker 1: But but but I don't feel like you're obligated to 1916 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:11,040 Speaker 1: reach out to me. You know. Yeah, I don't want that. 1917 01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't even want it. But enough black people have 1918 01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,559 Speaker 1: said they do want it. And then they told you 1919 01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,320 Speaker 1: that your silence is complicitness. And then they told you 1920 01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:22,439 Speaker 1: if you don't do it. You basically racist. So you 1921 01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,639 Speaker 1: reaching out to me, a nigga who don't believe any 1922 01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,040 Speaker 1: of that, you know, you reaching out to me, And 1923 01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I don't. I I'm not one of 1924 01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:33,680 Speaker 1: those blacks. I don't know what to tell you. Like, 1925 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:35,240 Speaker 1: if you knew me better, you know you didn't need 1926 01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:39,719 Speaker 1: to do this. So like, so, yeah, it just depends 1927 01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:40,400 Speaker 1: on the person. 1928 01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:40,719 Speaker 3: Man. 1929 01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,280 Speaker 2: So I personally I'm not into that shit. 1930 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:47,559 Speaker 1: But yeah, I definitely feel everything you're saying though, cause 1931 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,719 Speaker 1: it is that. You know, thank you again for your podcast. 1932 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:53,920 Speaker 1: For years, you guys have been my imaginary friends who 1933 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,639 Speaker 1: I can vent with about this stuff and then turn 1934 01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:57,400 Speaker 1: around to laugh about it. I hope you know what 1935 01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,320 Speaker 1: a difference you're making. Well, thank you. The we do 1936 01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:02,479 Speaker 1: know now, I mean because people like you right in 1937 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:07,000 Speaker 1: to tell us you know, so thank you. That might 1938 01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,280 Speaker 1: be the power of that as a white person apologize, 1939 01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:14,479 Speaker 1: like reached out to you. Don't check on me write 1940 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,240 Speaker 1: a check, Okay, that's what I say. Not really, I 1941 01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:18,200 Speaker 1: don't want your check either. 1942 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:19,559 Speaker 2: I don't want your white. 1943 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,240 Speaker 1: Guilt money or none of the shit. There's a lot 1944 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,720 Speaker 1: of black people who do. But if you listen to me, 1945 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm not that person. I don't want that shit we have, 1946 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,559 Speaker 1: you know, people putting us in lists. Now, check out 1947 01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:32,599 Speaker 1: these black podcasts, and I'm gonna uplift black creators this week. 1948 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:37,479 Speaker 1: That's that's well intended, and that's cool it is, But 1949 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:41,200 Speaker 1: much like my girl Vinyl Collector just said, I can't 1950 01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,719 Speaker 1: help it. But it makes me a little bit angry 1951 01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,760 Speaker 1: because if you haven't lifted my shit up the other 1952 01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:50,040 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five days a year that I 1953 01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,760 Speaker 1: am black, and the other ten years that we've been 1954 01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,120 Speaker 1: doing this show, and it's only in the midst of 1955 01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:58,439 Speaker 1: a black crisis that you have the nerve to be like, hey, 1956 01:34:58,800 --> 01:34:59,519 Speaker 1: check this out. 1957 01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:01,719 Speaker 2: This is some black people. 1958 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,600 Speaker 1: Y'all. Get the fuck out of my face, put a 1959 01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:09,120 Speaker 1: reminder in your fucking phone right now, and do the 1960 01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:13,200 Speaker 1: same thing every month for the rest of the month. 1961 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, don't just I mean black 1962 01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,080 Speaker 1: people are getting killed on camera is what gives us promotion? 1963 01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,360 Speaker 2: Then why are we getting promoted every day? Because they 1964 01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:23,360 Speaker 2: doing it every day? 1965 01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,519 Speaker 1: So I don't like, I don't want this white guilt. 1966 01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:27,920 Speaker 2: Attention now, It's not my thing. 1967 01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,320 Speaker 1: And I know there are some blacks that get off 1968 01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:34,000 Speaker 1: on it, and nothing makes day fucking jenitos gets stiffer 1969 01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:37,160 Speaker 1: than like a white person being guilty and conflicted and 1970 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,360 Speaker 1: giving them a check. That's not my thing. I don't 1971 01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,920 Speaker 1: want it like like I because I also don't want 1972 01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:47,559 Speaker 1: to have to handle your guilt or make you feel 1973 01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:49,559 Speaker 1: good about something or two weeks later when you're feeling 1974 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,760 Speaker 1: less guilty and now you're mad at my podcast because 1975 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,559 Speaker 1: I keep talking about Yeah, it's fucked up. White supremacy 1976 01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,320 Speaker 1: is fucked up. Wow, y'all still thinking about that bitch? 1977 01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,839 Speaker 2: We live under it every day. It's fitting to be forever. 1978 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,400 Speaker 4: Like for some of us, it's not a goddamn broken record. 1979 01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:06,599 Speaker 1: This is not us complaining our way into a job. 1980 01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,240 Speaker 1: For some of us, it's just us living our lives 1981 01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,599 Speaker 1: and we this is just a big part of our lives. 1982 01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:17,160 Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm not a huge fan of that ship anyway. 1983 01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,559 Speaker 1: But yo, but but good, but good for the whites 1984 01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,559 Speaker 1: who are trying, like I don't have I don't have 1985 01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:24,479 Speaker 1: the right answers for you or whatever. It's just it's 1986 01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a long process. Good luck. The poll is 1987 01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:32,439 Speaker 1: which one just uh, let's see which one burn it all? Down, 1988 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:39,040 Speaker 1: burn it all down except for mine. Just burn your 1989 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,839 Speaker 1: own ship or don't burn anything. 1990 01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:51,200 Speaker 3: Can That one's hard because you don't have, uh, I 1991 01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:56,479 Speaker 3: understand if you burn I'm I'm of the I understand 1992 01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:58,960 Speaker 3: if you burn no, uh, you know, go ahead and 1993 01:36:59,000 --> 01:36:59,639 Speaker 3: answer the question. 1994 01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,000 Speaker 1: Please, do you need me to repeat the answers? Yes, okay, 1995 01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:07,720 Speaker 1: all right, I'll repeat the answers for you burn it 1996 01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:13,160 Speaker 1: all down, burn it all down except for mine, don't 1997 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,479 Speaker 1: burn anything, or just burn your own shit. 1998 01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:21,519 Speaker 3: I guess, burn it all down except for mine. Okay, 1999 01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,200 Speaker 3: don't burn my ship down. But it's one of them 2000 01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,400 Speaker 3: things where I understand. 2001 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,320 Speaker 2: If they burned your own shit, you will understand they 2002 01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:28,800 Speaker 2: burn no. 2003 01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,960 Speaker 3: No, no, no no no, I understand the burning of 2004 01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:32,639 Speaker 3: shit down. 2005 01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:37,120 Speaker 1: But that's the pole, the pole in itself, you know, 2006 01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:39,559 Speaker 1: it has a built in understand like. 2007 01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,719 Speaker 2: It doesn't say you don't understand why or you do understand. 2008 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,519 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It's just which of these quality quality, 2009 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,760 Speaker 1: which ones do you go into? So you say, burn 2010 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:51,479 Speaker 1: it all down except for mine. Nineteen percent of the udience. 2011 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,840 Speaker 1: Nineteen percent of the audience agrees to you burn it 2012 01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,559 Speaker 1: all down except for my ship, which, if you know, 2013 01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,680 Speaker 1: I was surprised that wasn't higher. You know, but I 2014 01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,479 Speaker 1: think our audience is a little more realistic than black 2015 01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:09,000 Speaker 1: twitter oat. Yes. Um plus that one sounds the least flattering. 2016 01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:11,320 Speaker 1: You don't get to feel like a revolutionary when you're 2017 01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,439 Speaker 1: like burn their shit down. That that you don't feel 2018 01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,479 Speaker 1: so you don't feel so righteous, do you. 2019 01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,479 Speaker 4: Nope, that's what I was like. I understand. I don't 2020 01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:19,880 Speaker 4: want you burning my shit down. 2021 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:20,599 Speaker 3: Uh. 2022 01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:24,000 Speaker 1: Thirty two percent said burn it all down, thirty nine 2023 01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,200 Speaker 1: percent said don't burn anything, and eleven percent said just 2024 01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,240 Speaker 1: burn your own shit. Our audience is pretty woke, and 2025 01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,600 Speaker 1: thirty nine percent said don't burn anything, which is the 2026 01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:36,720 Speaker 1: highest qualifier, like the highest one. Burn it all down 2027 01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,519 Speaker 1: came in second with thirty two percent burn it all 2028 01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,640 Speaker 1: down except my nineteen and then just burn your own 2029 01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:45,080 Speaker 1: shit eleven percent. I'm gonna tell you all right now, guys, 2030 01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:49,599 Speaker 1: I fit into the burn it all down category. I've 2031 01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:53,040 Speaker 1: been I said it on my Facebook Live and I 2032 01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:57,040 Speaker 1: mean it. Guys, burn all of that shit down, Okay, 2033 01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,120 Speaker 1: riot loot. Still, we don't. 2034 01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:01,680 Speaker 4: Own most of that ship. 2035 01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm not done. I'm not done. 2036 01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,599 Speaker 2: Can please go the R kill people if you need to? 2037 01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:11,080 Speaker 1: No, I don't care if it's children, run up in 2038 01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:15,080 Speaker 1: their house, kill people kids. We are upset, we are 2039 01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,200 Speaker 1: black people, and everything we feel right now is correct 2040 01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,439 Speaker 1: and right. We don't need to worry about about the law. 2041 01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,840 Speaker 3: Of the of the black guy on the black out 2042 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:29,080 Speaker 3: who Tips podcast does not include me. 2043 01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,400 Speaker 1: Burn it all to the ground, okay, find so. I 2044 01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,160 Speaker 1: don't care if it's innocent white people. Find them. 2045 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,720 Speaker 2: Gon Turner on everything. 2046 01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:40,720 Speaker 4: Y'all going to jail. You listen to him. 2047 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, Okay. I'm the realist nigga 2048 01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:48,639 Speaker 1: in the world, in my house, in my crib right now. 2049 01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,680 Speaker 1: Burn the ship down, Okay. I say that from the 2050 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:57,680 Speaker 1: air conditioned privacy of my gated community. Burn these motherfuckers 2051 01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,599 Speaker 1: to ashes, Okay, every last one of them. 2052 01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:02,519 Speaker 4: I was about to say, d you know the way 2053 01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:03,440 Speaker 4: you're talking. 2054 01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,280 Speaker 2: Karen, Listen, you don't understand. 2055 01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:06,920 Speaker 4: I guess I don't. 2056 01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,360 Speaker 1: You don't am not walking up. Not only are you 2057 01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:13,080 Speaker 1: not woking enough, but this is the only thing you 2058 01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:16,320 Speaker 1: are allowed to say on Twitter right now, Karen, you 2059 01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:20,760 Speaker 1: can't be out here say a nuanced That's when they 2060 01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:25,320 Speaker 1: Twitter is like attic at you saw what happened to 2061 01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:29,559 Speaker 1: kill a Mike he had reasonable and then he and 2062 01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,200 Speaker 1: then he got roasted for it and got called a coon. 2063 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:34,720 Speaker 1: So you're gonna get us called coons because you are 2064 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,160 Speaker 1: here trying to do to act like what I'm saying 2065 01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,280 Speaker 1: is bad. No, burn it all down. 2066 01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,839 Speaker 4: I don't care where. It's my tap dance shoes shoes. 2067 01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,880 Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's sad to hear. 2068 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:54,360 Speaker 1: What the what the what of the coons? 2069 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:12,160 Speaker 4: You playing my jam? Because no, yeah, I'll just be 2070 01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:12,839 Speaker 4: one dn. 2071 01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:19,080 Speaker 1: Well not me. I believe black lives matter, and I 2072 01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:24,400 Speaker 1: absolutely disagree with Karen as far as I'm concerned. 2073 01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,240 Speaker 4: You just have to agree to disagree. 2074 01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,559 Speaker 1: As far as our concerned. Burn it all down, don't 2075 01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,640 Speaker 1: you know? So y'all know I'm the wokest person in 2076 01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,559 Speaker 1: the room. Anytime I walk into a room, I start 2077 01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,360 Speaker 1: burning shit. That's how I'll get down. Okay, I burn 2078 01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,479 Speaker 1: I'm burning incense right now. Guess what else, y'all burning 2079 01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,599 Speaker 1: the candle right here? Live y'all see it. I burn 2080 01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,839 Speaker 1: it down up in here. Okay. I'm burning all the 2081 01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:53,519 Speaker 1: wild higher scyth, fresh floor fragrances up in my crib 2082 01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:57,800 Speaker 1: because I'm such a revolutionary. Okay, I see now, get 2083 01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,640 Speaker 1: out there and burn burn it all, okay, set the 2084 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:06,000 Speaker 1: police on fire. We don't care. I care. We hear 2085 01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,120 Speaker 1: the Blackoutels do not want to be canceled. Continue to 2086 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:11,840 Speaker 1: give to this show because we are the most revolutionary. 2087 01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:15,280 Speaker 1: This is how people pil Mike ain't gonna st ain't 2088 01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,679 Speaker 1: gonna save No, ain't gonna get none of his money back. 2089 01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,280 Speaker 1: No one getting run to Jewels five because he sold 2090 01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,920 Speaker 1: out and said burn some of it down, but don't 2091 01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:26,680 Speaker 1: burn your ship down. And they said no, no, The 2092 01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,200 Speaker 1: right answer was burn it all. So we will be 2093 01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:33,680 Speaker 1: burning it all up in here. Static. Static says, if 2094 01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm being honest, I find myself oscillating between all these 2095 01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:41,160 Speaker 1: sometimes all at once. Then I just get tired. Shady dwn, 2096 01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:45,760 Speaker 1: Shady Dan says, usher voice. Let it burn, see shady Dave, 2097 01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:49,160 Speaker 1: she own it, okay. If she walked outside and they 2098 01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,120 Speaker 1: would burning her car in her house down, she would 2099 01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:53,680 Speaker 1: be like, I don't care, burn it all. Hand me 2100 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,840 Speaker 1: a torch. I would burn my own shit with you. 2101 01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,680 Speaker 1: And that's how I get down, because I'm real like that. 2102 01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:03,360 Speaker 1: My grandpa marched Ga in the fifties. My dad marched 2103 01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,880 Speaker 1: at Oakland in the seventies. I marched in Berkeley during 2104 01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:08,880 Speaker 1: Rodney King in the nineties. Now we had dubious honor 2105 01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,479 Speaker 1: of taking our kids to march for the same fucking shit. 2106 01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:14,080 Speaker 1: This little lifetime of begging this shit hold country for 2107 01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:17,000 Speaker 1: the absolute bare minimum, begging them to give us simple quality. 2108 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,960 Speaker 1: At this point, we brought this country into the world 2109 01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:23,519 Speaker 1: and without un with our unending labor, so we can 2110 01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:26,320 Speaker 1: take this motherfucker out. I wish that I could say 2111 01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,200 Speaker 1: that I were a better person than that, but there 2112 01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,400 Speaker 1: is there. It is. If you tie a dog up 2113 01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:33,840 Speaker 1: in the backyard, kick it every few days, if don't 2114 01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,400 Speaker 1: have your feelings hurt when he bites your leg off, 2115 01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:38,800 Speaker 1: don't worry. Guys are planning on bringing this shit up 2116 01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,320 Speaker 1: in therapy on Monday, so I'll be all right. I 2117 01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:45,120 Speaker 1: was with you on everything you said until that last sentence. 2118 01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:47,840 Speaker 1: So you going to therapy, Yes, go. 2119 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,240 Speaker 4: To therapy if that's what you need. 2120 01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,519 Speaker 2: Baby, You're gonna go to therapy and get this out. 2121 01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:54,360 Speaker 1: No, if you want to get your feelings out, burn 2122 01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:58,599 Speaker 1: your shit down, start with your house, burn that motherfucker down, 2123 01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:02,920 Speaker 1: and anybody living next year, therapist appointment, burn it up. 2124 01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,559 Speaker 1: Been here, okay? Black power, Black people forever. 2125 01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,519 Speaker 4: All right, keep your appointment, baby, twenty minutes early. 2126 01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,280 Speaker 2: Don't listen to this coon. Okay, she not down with 2127 01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:13,880 Speaker 2: the with with it like we are. 2128 01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:25,719 Speaker 1: Okay, guys, that's the only answer, black rage. I'm with you. 2129 01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:29,400 Speaker 1: Burn it. Doug B. Says I would have seen I 2130 01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,000 Speaker 1: would have seen this pole two days ago. Oh, if 2131 01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,240 Speaker 1: I would have seen this pole two days ago, I 2132 01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:37,800 Speaker 1: would have said, burned nothing. But after some foods unconnected 2133 01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,280 Speaker 1: to the area's peaceful march tried to loot the stores 2134 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,200 Speaker 1: on the corner. The stupidness of the stupidness of work. 2135 01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:46,559 Speaker 1: In two hour phone call with insurance lying about raising 2136 01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:50,040 Speaker 1: my proscription copay, I voted to burn it all. See, 2137 01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:51,680 Speaker 1: that's what I think. I think. Burn it all is 2138 01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:52,360 Speaker 1: just a feeling. 2139 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:56,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think. I don't mean it. I know, 2140 01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:57,479 Speaker 4: because I don't. 2141 01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,599 Speaker 1: Cause niggas be in their house, y'all do know y'all 2142 01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:04,160 Speaker 1: own that, come on, you can burn. 2143 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,200 Speaker 4: Ship down at any time, you won't. In fact, we 2144 01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:08,599 Speaker 4: got the fancy lighters. 2145 01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:13,280 Speaker 1: Listen. I saw I saw soul food leave a moon 2146 01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:14,519 Speaker 1: fucking towel on the oven. 2147 01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:18,439 Speaker 2: Burn that shit down, okay. Layla says I'm at. 2148 01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,240 Speaker 1: The point where I don't even care no more what 2149 01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:23,479 Speaker 1: happens to here. Just like a nan seen it said 2150 01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,720 Speaker 1: on American guys, let the motherfuckers burn my ship. They 2151 01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:28,920 Speaker 1: ship everybody ship had a state farmer just to come 2152 01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:30,439 Speaker 1: out and survey what was left and cutting me in 2153 01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:34,000 Speaker 1: a check. It's oh, so, y'all, ain't burning state farm. No, 2154 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,840 Speaker 1: if we're burning everything, we burning state farm too. Ain't 2155 01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:37,720 Speaker 1: gonna be no checks in. 2156 01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,200 Speaker 4: The new can't burn state farm down in the new. 2157 01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,920 Speaker 1: World or ashes. It won't be no checks, no banks either. 2158 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:46,200 Speaker 1: We burning them bitches too. Oh, y'all not real. I'm 2159 01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:47,439 Speaker 1: the only real person in the world. 2160 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:47,800 Speaker 5: I know. 2161 01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:48,519 Speaker 4: I'm not real. 2162 01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:52,680 Speaker 1: Like right, yeah, I'll see, I see. Wow. This is 2163 01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,720 Speaker 1: gonna be the thing that that gets a divorced. 2164 01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,000 Speaker 4: Come on, get my I already told you getting my 2165 01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:58,000 Speaker 4: tap dancer shoes. 2166 01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,360 Speaker 1: I saw you, Shane. I'm sorry you, and Leo Rodin 2167 01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:05,519 Speaker 1: and and just I'm sorry, Okay, you waste your money. 2168 01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:13,120 Speaker 1: Is not a rider. If the if, if any way, 2169 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,680 Speaker 1: if anything good could come out of me taking the 2170 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:17,639 Speaker 1: l I'm for it for the many of black people. 2171 01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:20,320 Speaker 2: Fuck this country and fuck cops. Has to defund the police. 2172 01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:24,639 Speaker 1: Uh tis says, I feel like as long as they're 2173 01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:28,760 Speaker 1: uh talking businesses and not homes, I kind of has 2174 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,479 Speaker 1: to be all or nothing. Oh first, okay, tis first 2175 01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:35,080 Speaker 1: of all, you qualify your own ship. Oh we just 2176 01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:39,200 Speaker 1: talking businesses and not homes. Well that's the thing that's 2177 01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:41,400 Speaker 1: not all then, So how you gonna try to write 2178 01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:43,400 Speaker 1: a qualify? So you had to go back and change 2179 01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,759 Speaker 1: your vote in the poll because you didn't even believe 2180 01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,360 Speaker 1: what you said. Yeah, you don't bring it out. 2181 01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:50,879 Speaker 4: Don't burn nobody shit down. 2182 01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,520 Speaker 1: Right, we're talking businesses but not homes. No, we're talking businesses. 2183 01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:59,160 Speaker 1: Homes were talking preschools, were talking everything, the playground, we 2184 01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:03,240 Speaker 1: burning it all, all of it, the people, the cops, everybody, 2185 01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:07,599 Speaker 1: the people into jails, everyone getting burnt up. Oh man, 2186 01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,160 Speaker 1: I swear to God the work I do for you negroes. 2187 01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:13,240 Speaker 1: If you have a business, you shouldn't be okay if 2188 01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:16,519 Speaker 1: people across town lose theirs, but ready to switch sides 2189 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:17,960 Speaker 1: when folks get to you. 2190 01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:19,600 Speaker 2: You should have insurance just like they do. 2191 01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,200 Speaker 1: And if they talking about letting it all burn, then 2192 01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:24,000 Speaker 1: be ready to have it hit you. Maybe the lesson 2193 01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,720 Speaker 1: There hasn't been the lasting cultural shift in regards to 2194 01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:28,599 Speaker 1: black lives. It's just a matter of the fires being 2195 01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,920 Speaker 1: put out too early. Showing restraint and the effort to 2196 01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:34,680 Speaker 1: prove we're not what we say we are. What you 2197 01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,400 Speaker 1: say we are may may have hurt us. Maybe we 2198 01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,960 Speaker 1: just needed to show them that we can do much worse. 2199 01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:42,599 Speaker 1: So the next time we're polite enough to ask for something, 2200 01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:44,920 Speaker 1: they'll be willing to take us seriously to keep it 2201 01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,840 Speaker 1: from getting so bad again before we just take it. Yeah. 2202 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:49,479 Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing I would say in that 2203 01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:51,400 Speaker 1: analoge is I don't know that burning it all down 2204 01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:53,840 Speaker 1: is us taking anything. I don't think you burn it 2205 01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:55,960 Speaker 1: all down, and then like the fucking freedom comes over 2206 01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,920 Speaker 1: out out of the from behind our closet, and everybody's free. 2207 01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:02,599 Speaker 4: Yeah down, and we don't own Yeah. 2208 01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:08,519 Speaker 1: So all right, let's get to the last comment. Kim 2209 01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:12,240 Speaker 1: doc Rod and Karen, the people at Gucci and Brietling 2210 01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,120 Speaker 1: and Chanelle and Louis Baton ain't did nothing to y'all 2211 01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:18,519 Speaker 1: whispers except be racist. Yo. I don't even know who that. 2212 01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't watch the Love of Hip Hop anymore, so 2213 01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:21,720 Speaker 1: I didn't even know who that woman was that was 2214 01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:25,519 Speaker 1: crying about them stores. I never laughed as hard as 2215 01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,559 Speaker 1: I did at Shaquina. That's who it is, Shaquina and Trina. 2216 01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:32,240 Speaker 1: This shit stuck struck a nerve with them that I 2217 01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,880 Speaker 1: that I and people of my mom said cannot relate to. 2218 01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't really care either way, but it leaves a 2219 01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,559 Speaker 1: bad taste in the air with regard to Trina. She's 2220 01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:41,320 Speaker 1: a beloved. She's a beloved to the point where if 2221 01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,559 Speaker 1: anyone speaks a negative whisper has spoken in her direction 2222 01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:46,200 Speaker 1: from anyone, there's a hive that dies off the top 2223 01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:48,840 Speaker 1: rope on people. Maybe that got to her head. Who 2224 01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:51,840 Speaker 1: knows that good will is definitely dry as hell now 2225 01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:55,479 Speaker 1: though all she had to do was read the room. Yeah, 2226 01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:57,599 Speaker 1: that's bad. When Trick that is the voice of reason. 2227 01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:01,800 Speaker 1: Come on, Trick is like Trick love the kids. What 2228 01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:02,240 Speaker 1: are you doing? 2229 01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:02,639 Speaker 4: Come on? 2230 01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:03,920 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2231 01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:04,519 Speaker 4: Black people? 2232 01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:10,400 Speaker 1: Right? So anyway, Yeah, I'm if I'm being real, man, 2233 01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:15,000 Speaker 1: I feel kind of like, what do you call it? Uh? 2234 01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:18,519 Speaker 1: What's that fl is that hands off? Is that with 2235 01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:22,120 Speaker 1: French French for hands off? Like I wouldn't get out 2236 01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,320 Speaker 1: there and burn shit. I don't really see the point 2237 01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,880 Speaker 1: as far as like what it's gonna do. I think 2238 01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:31,160 Speaker 1: I think people need to be a little less judgmental 2239 01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:33,600 Speaker 1: of the black people who are like, there are consequences 2240 01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,000 Speaker 1: towards burning this shit, I don't think. I think we 2241 01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:38,599 Speaker 1: need to stop being so in a rush to dismiss them, 2242 01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:41,960 Speaker 1: because you know, I was reading the article where this 2243 01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:47,120 Speaker 1: woman was a pharmacist and they burned down the cvs 2244 01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:49,960 Speaker 1: and she was like, I understand the rage, and I 2245 01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:53,320 Speaker 1: identify with it. And this isn't even about my job 2246 01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:57,600 Speaker 1: as a pharmacist. But there are people that need the 2247 01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:01,360 Speaker 1: drugs and the prescriptions that were in the front and 2248 01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:03,479 Speaker 1: now they won't be able to get them. And I 2249 01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:06,240 Speaker 1: don't know what I do when I you know, if 2250 01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:09,160 Speaker 1: I have someone on three four five medications or something 2251 01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:15,200 Speaker 1: and I'm scrambling for these medications. You know what am 2252 01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:17,960 Speaker 1: I am? I fuck you? Burn it all? I get 2253 01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:19,800 Speaker 1: this is your part of the consequence of this shit 2254 01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:24,400 Speaker 1: like it you know, it is somewhat of a it's 2255 01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:26,400 Speaker 1: a nuanced discussion, and that's not a place to have 2256 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,120 Speaker 1: it online. You have to basically say and that's what 2257 01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:31,479 Speaker 1: that's what my joke is. Really, I said it on 2258 01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:35,160 Speaker 1: my Facebook live or whatever. Is like you have to say, 2259 01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:38,280 Speaker 1: burn it all, like to the point of almost being 2260 01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,639 Speaker 1: to the point of like the more kind of callous 2261 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,960 Speaker 1: you sound, the better the more revolutionary pats on the 2262 01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,080 Speaker 1: back you get for saying it. So if you say 2263 01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:49,800 Speaker 1: burn it all, kill the kids, burn I burn the 2264 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:53,479 Speaker 1: fucking school down, burn the playground, burn like, people will 2265 01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,000 Speaker 1: support that right now in this moment because you sound 2266 01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:56,879 Speaker 1: like you woke. 2267 01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:58,880 Speaker 2: Like that's the wokest thing you can say. 2268 01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,599 Speaker 1: But you know, I think it spoke volumes that when 2269 01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:05,519 Speaker 1: Killer Mike had an actual platform to address everyone, that 2270 01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:08,760 Speaker 1: what he was responsible for saying and what was best 2271 01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:11,200 Speaker 1: for his community are different than what he said when 2272 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:15,400 Speaker 1: he logged back on Twitter the next day, Like he 2273 01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:18,680 Speaker 1: logged out back on Twitter and said burn it all, 2274 01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:22,120 Speaker 1: and people said, weh, nigga, make up your mind. It's like, oh, oh, 2275 01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:28,240 Speaker 1: that was him being that. So Twitter is fake, you know, yeah, 2276 01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:31,200 Speaker 1: it's easy to say that shit, And and even people 2277 01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,000 Speaker 1: like that don't want people to get upset with the 2278 01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:38,960 Speaker 1: looters and the riders and shit. Even those people aren't 2279 01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:42,400 Speaker 1: really actively saying, you know, I'm gonna go out here 2280 01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:44,720 Speaker 1: and burn some shit too, because they even they know 2281 01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:49,200 Speaker 1: deep down on a fundamental level, there's some irresponsibility to 2282 01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:52,880 Speaker 1: that and there is some parts of the picture that 2283 01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,760 Speaker 1: are being painted over in order for us to like 2284 01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:57,360 Speaker 1: throw our black power fists in the air. 2285 01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:58,760 Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is. 2286 01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:04,360 Speaker 1: You know, if if my grandmama is on Chloy Queen 2287 01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:09,000 Speaker 1: for her loopis and you niggas burned down the CVS, right, 2288 01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to be sad and hurt as well as 2289 01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,000 Speaker 1: sad and heard about the black death in the street 2290 01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:19,040 Speaker 1: that got us mad. Like, all of these feelings are 2291 01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:22,360 Speaker 1: valid feelings from different levels and different places in blackness. 2292 01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,760 Speaker 1: And it's not a class thing. It's not you know, 2293 01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,599 Speaker 1: it's not about being rich. It's just that this white 2294 01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,479 Speaker 1: supremaci is a a fucked up situation. We're all gonna 2295 01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:36,479 Speaker 1: feel complicated feelings around it, agreed, you know, So it just. 2296 01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:37,160 Speaker 2: Depends, man. 2297 01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,519 Speaker 1: But yeah, I ain't. I ain't. Like I said, it's 2298 01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,719 Speaker 1: not I'm more mad about white supremacy and the systemic 2299 01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:47,680 Speaker 1: oppression of people than I am about people fucking up 2300 01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:49,519 Speaker 1: a store. Which is why you ain't never caught me 2301 01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,639 Speaker 1: saying not a bad thing about people fucking up a store, 2302 01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:54,680 Speaker 1: unless unless it was white people coming into our neighborhoods 2303 01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,120 Speaker 1: and sucking up shit. Other than that. I don't care, agreed, 2304 01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, anyway, we had emails. I don't think we 2305 01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:05,799 Speaker 1: got any voicemails from Skype. I checked it earlier this morning. 2306 01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:09,000 Speaker 1: I can check again real quick. Okay, to make Karen 2307 01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:13,519 Speaker 1: feel better, Yes, thank you, and thank god I did 2308 01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:17,960 Speaker 1: because a Meal left a voicemail. You welcome, Karen. Okay, 2309 01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:18,599 Speaker 1: you did it. 2310 01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:25,040 Speaker 10: Hey, guys, I'm mail here. Hopefully this voicemail gets him 2311 01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:29,840 Speaker 10: before the show. But I was listening to the show 2312 01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:32,760 Speaker 10: this week and you guys mentioned that you felt lucky. Well, 2313 01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:35,720 Speaker 10: Rod mentioned that he felt lucky that he was existing 2314 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:38,360 Speaker 10: in a black environment for most of his life. And 2315 01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,120 Speaker 10: I realized that was my life for about twenty eight 2316 01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:43,960 Speaker 10: years until I moved to Canada. And I remember my 2317 01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,200 Speaker 10: first engineering got I try to press a point in 2318 01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:49,920 Speaker 10: our meeting and my boss at the time said I 2319 01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:51,400 Speaker 10: didn't have to be so aggressive. 2320 01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:52,559 Speaker 8: Man. 2321 01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:55,040 Speaker 10: When I tell you, I was puzzled. I felt like 2322 01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:59,120 Speaker 10: I was scrolling into whiteness grad school without reaping any 2323 01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:02,679 Speaker 10: of the whiteness. To be recused anyway, here us later, 2324 01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,960 Speaker 10: with everything going on, I'm just glad all the social 2325 01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:10,280 Speaker 10: distancing mules prevent people from gathering and a learn through work, because, 2326 01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:13,240 Speaker 10: believe me, I don't want to. I don't want to 2327 01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,720 Speaker 10: have these weighty conversations with these motherfuckers out work to 2328 01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:21,760 Speaker 10: leave me. Anyway. I love the show is always. I 2329 01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:24,880 Speaker 10: love that week when you had all those guests on, 2330 01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:29,679 Speaker 10: especially Race, Annie and and and what's the what's the tea? 2331 01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:35,360 Speaker 10: Nick and Reggie as always keep up, keep up the show. 2332 01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah right, thanks a mail, Thank you baby. 2333 01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,280 Speaker 1: I feel like more of his Jamaican accent was coming 2334 01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:50,400 Speaker 1: out that week. This this week, I feel like as 2335 01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,880 Speaker 1: the pandemic goes longer and longer, he is more and 2336 01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,000 Speaker 1: more Jamaican, which I don't know if that's the thing, 2337 01:54:56,120 --> 01:55:00,600 Speaker 1: but I can tell if you go back the first 2338 01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:03,320 Speaker 1: email voicemails he left. It was like, all right, this 2339 01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:06,000 Speaker 1: is a meal and I'm from Canada, and I was like, man, 2340 01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:08,280 Speaker 1: so I'm a Jamaican gentleman. 2341 01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:11,960 Speaker 3: But slowly, slowly, with him not having to go to 2342 01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:14,400 Speaker 3: work and being at home, they gonna they're gonna go 2343 01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:16,240 Speaker 3: on to Zoom and they're gonna be like, what set 2344 01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:16,680 Speaker 3: up again? 2345 01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:17,760 Speaker 4: Can't understand you. 2346 01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:19,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna get so bad that he gon 2347 01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,440 Speaker 1: call in and it's gonna be the It's not just 2348 01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:24,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a normal Jamaica accident. It's gonna be a 2349 01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:30,160 Speaker 1: season two of Luke Cage Jamaican. No, No, the Mafia burn. 2350 01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what has happened, Mariah Stokes 2351 01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:38,000 Speaker 1: gone By. I'm like, I don't know what any of 2352 01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:39,280 Speaker 1: this means anymore. 2353 01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:40,480 Speaker 4: I don't want any of that. 2354 01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:44,120 Speaker 1: But Noah, man, I feel you too, because I definitely 2355 01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:47,640 Speaker 1: had been called aggressive more than once when I worked 2356 01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:51,360 Speaker 1: in white corporate America. One, like I said, had a 2357 01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:54,000 Speaker 1: boss who used to cuss in the fucking meetings, call 2358 01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:58,040 Speaker 1: people all kinds of names and ship and not to 2359 01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:00,240 Speaker 1: their face, but like, you know, we be on, we'd 2360 01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:02,640 Speaker 1: be talking. He's like, that's so stupid, son of a 2361 01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:04,240 Speaker 1: bitch would do that, and I'll be like and I 2362 01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,280 Speaker 1: joined in barely, just tipping my foot in the water, 2363 01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:09,160 Speaker 1: and he would be like, now hold on, you don't 2364 01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:11,560 Speaker 1: have to be so upset, and I'm like, okay, this 2365 01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:13,840 Speaker 1: is weird. And I noticed it. After a couple of times, 2366 01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:15,840 Speaker 1: I just stopped even talking to him about it. It 2367 01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:17,920 Speaker 1: was just like, well, I guess he cusses, and I 2368 01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:20,200 Speaker 1: don't you know, and the white other white people in 2369 01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:23,320 Speaker 1: the meeting could cuss or whatever, no problem, but me specifically, 2370 01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:24,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't cuss. 2371 01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:28,320 Speaker 2: Nope, And so then I had that happen. 2372 01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:31,120 Speaker 1: I had another time I got written up for an 2373 01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:35,560 Speaker 1: email that I literally did not mean sarcastically or in 2374 01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,560 Speaker 1: a dick way and all, and even as I explained 2375 01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:41,520 Speaker 1: it to the fucking short five foot two boss that 2376 01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:45,720 Speaker 1: I had at the time, Hey, this is not I 2377 01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:47,120 Speaker 1: didn't mean this in a negative way. 2378 01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:49,960 Speaker 2: If you just like trust me as an employee. 2379 01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:52,680 Speaker 1: You'd had at least have my back or go, well, 2380 01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:53,840 Speaker 1: you say, didn't mean it that way. 2381 01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:56,280 Speaker 2: I got ridden up anyway. Turned out it was on 2382 01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:57,480 Speaker 2: my fucking permanent record. 2383 01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:00,840 Speaker 1: Like I like years later when I when I was 2384 01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:05,120 Speaker 1: left from that job, my current manager who had been 2385 01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:07,280 Speaker 1: laid off at the same time, he was apologizing me 2386 01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:09,520 Speaker 1: to me because it was like, yeah, I really let 2387 01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:11,120 Speaker 1: this job turn me into a dick. I was kind 2388 01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:13,800 Speaker 1: of like treating things too seriously. I was asking, like, 2389 01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, kind of getting on you for little shit 2390 01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:18,200 Speaker 1: that really wasn't that important. And I was like, you 2391 01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:21,840 Speaker 1: know what I forgive you. You know, he apologized, and 2392 01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:23,640 Speaker 1: I try not to hold onder that kind of shit, 2393 01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:25,440 Speaker 1: and I say, you know, you just got caught up 2394 01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:28,160 Speaker 1: in the in the corporate culture, thinking that this shit mattered, 2395 01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:32,200 Speaker 1: shit don't matter, it's not important. And he was like yeah, 2396 01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:35,000 Speaker 1: and Brian left this thing on your record for I 2397 01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:37,280 Speaker 1: was like that shit was still in there and shit 2398 01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:41,040 Speaker 1: having like fifteen years ago. So yeah, I definitely understand 2399 01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:43,320 Speaker 1: black people. We don't get to be aggressive. You know. 2400 01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,720 Speaker 1: People talk about the angry black woman stereotype and they're 2401 01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,600 Speaker 1: very right about it, but I guess, you know, probably 2402 01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:51,080 Speaker 1: in my circles it's not I have so many black 2403 01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:54,320 Speaker 1: women around me. I very rarely talk about the experience 2404 01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,520 Speaker 1: of a black man specifically because I know that to 2405 01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:00,720 Speaker 1: some people that's a trigger of like I'm trying to 2406 01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:02,880 Speaker 1: get into some type of oppression Olympics. So I'm gonna 2407 01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:05,840 Speaker 1: deny the oppression of black women. But being a black 2408 01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:09,560 Speaker 1: man comes with certain oppressions as well. And the angry 2409 01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:12,760 Speaker 1: black man is the stereotype as fucking well, you know, 2410 01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,880 Speaker 1: and you're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed 2411 01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:17,280 Speaker 1: to express rage and anger. Why do you think fucking 2412 01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:23,000 Speaker 1: Jackie uh, why can't I remember his last name? The 2413 01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:27,040 Speaker 1: big biggest baseball player of all time, Jackie Robinson. Why 2414 01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,600 Speaker 1: do you think Jackie Robinson was the one they picked 2415 01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:32,160 Speaker 1: because they knew he wouldn't punch a nigg out, not 2416 01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,560 Speaker 1: in front of everybody. Why I think Barack Obama was 2417 01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:37,240 Speaker 1: the first black president because they know he doesn't get 2418 01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:41,240 Speaker 1: moved to anger and his anger is very like it's anger, 2419 01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:44,080 Speaker 1: but it's very safe anger, and he knows he can't 2420 01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:46,880 Speaker 1: express anything more than that. That's why they're still afraid 2421 01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:49,120 Speaker 1: of mad Michelle Obama because she ain't as safe. 2422 01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:51,640 Speaker 4: Oh no, no, she's unpredictable. 2423 01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I definitely can relate to that. 2424 01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:54,040 Speaker 1: Man. 2425 01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:58,040 Speaker 2: It's like it's a lot bro so. 2426 01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:01,960 Speaker 1: And I do feel to work with how I work, 2427 01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:04,240 Speaker 1: what I do, to do it with who I do 2428 01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,880 Speaker 1: it with, and to be able to pick and choose 2429 01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:07,800 Speaker 1: who we work with. 2430 01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:09,560 Speaker 2: That may not always be true. 2431 01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:11,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't feel like our show is 2432 01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:14,480 Speaker 1: one of those shows that will be quote unquote saved 2433 01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:17,840 Speaker 1: by white dollars no matter how big or small we 2434 01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,000 Speaker 1: ever get. Like, I feel like white people for the 2435 01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:22,160 Speaker 1: most part will leave us to our own devices because 2436 01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:23,360 Speaker 1: of the ship we talk about and. 2437 01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:24,400 Speaker 4: How we talk correct. 2438 01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,160 Speaker 1: But I think. 2439 01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:31,800 Speaker 2: It's like I love that right now. 2440 01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:34,080 Speaker 1: I love that. When we had planned our live event, 2441 01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:37,120 Speaker 1: we picked our planner and we specifically say we want 2442 01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:40,080 Speaker 1: a black woman when we were got our photographer, Hey, 2443 01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:41,560 Speaker 1: we want we want a black woman. 2444 01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:43,240 Speaker 4: Photographer from the area specifically week. 2445 01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. But I like being able to do that, not 2446 01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:49,240 Speaker 1: just because I'm onso like because I support black women, guys, 2447 01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm just like the fucking wokeust. That's not what I'm saying. 2448 01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:54,240 Speaker 2: I like doing it because it's less of a headache 2449 01:59:54,280 --> 01:59:54,520 Speaker 2: for me. 2450 01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:58,920 Speaker 1: Right, I'm like, cool, they'll be professional, there'll be somebody 2451 01:59:58,960 --> 01:59:59,840 Speaker 1: we can vibe with. 2452 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,400 Speaker 4: The lighting will be right. 2453 02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, all that shit, Like, I like, it's just little 2454 02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:06,280 Speaker 1: shit like that, Like it's not you know, I like, 2455 02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:10,560 Speaker 1: and I don't have to be like Freddy Freddie Gray 2456 02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:14,080 Speaker 1: got killed and I better not bring it up around Brian, 2457 02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Like I don't have to feel that way. 2458 02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:18,640 Speaker 2: So it's a privilege. It really is a privilege, at. 2459 02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Least from the way I view, Like there might be 2460 02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:22,280 Speaker 1: other black people that would view this and be like, 2461 02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:24,960 Speaker 1: it's not a privilege. You you gotta deal with. You 2462 02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:27,000 Speaker 1: only got as much as black people can give you. 2463 02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:29,760 Speaker 1: But I'll fucking take it. I love it, you know 2464 02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:32,320 Speaker 1: what I mean? I'm the same person that doesn't want 2465 02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Mark Cubans millions of dollars, so tea with Queen and 2466 02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Jay can put me in the pit. So I'm a 2467 02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:37,920 Speaker 1: complicated human being. 2468 02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:39,600 Speaker 4: Trying to stay out whatever it takes to stay out 2469 02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:39,840 Speaker 4: the pit. 2470 02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, basically that's why I love everything bagels now love them. 2471 02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Barbara writes in we got some emails the blackoutests at 2472 02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:53,840 Speaker 1: gmail dot com twenty one sixteen. Thank Rod and Care 2473 02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:57,000 Speaker 1: for another great episode. You hit so many salient and 2474 02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:59,760 Speaker 1: relevant points in your discussions. You to our podcast and 2475 02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:03,040 Speaker 1: goal on being black and typically white corporate systems. I 2476 02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:06,760 Speaker 1: hit forty a few years ago and decided to myself, 2477 02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:10,360 Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm actually going to keep moving till I 2478 02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:12,520 Speaker 1: got to spot to a spot where my work, which 2479 02:01:12,680 --> 02:01:15,800 Speaker 1: historically history proves I do well, and my experience I 2480 02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:18,600 Speaker 1: matched with a decent level of respecting acknowledgment. I got 2481 02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:21,280 Speaker 1: sick and tired of the cognitive dissonance of seeing how 2482 02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:23,760 Speaker 1: well my work was being received but getting radio silence 2483 02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:28,280 Speaker 1: when they came to being acknowledged. Yeah, they're good for that, man. 2484 02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:30,040 Speaker 2: There's just so many times I went into a performance 2485 02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:31,000 Speaker 2: re you thinking I. 2486 02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Was doing bad because no one has said shit to 2487 02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:36,040 Speaker 1: me about the good work I was doing all year long, 2488 02:01:36,760 --> 02:01:38,200 Speaker 1: and then when I'm in there thinking I got to 2489 02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:41,640 Speaker 1: defend myself just to keep a job, you know, and 2490 02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm putting my list together. I got better at this 2491 02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:45,520 Speaker 1: as time went on. I started putting my list together 2492 02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:48,880 Speaker 1: before the meeting and being like, nah, I've been killing 2493 02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:51,640 Speaker 1: this shit. So when I came in there anything negative 2494 02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:53,040 Speaker 1: they had to say, I was ready to be like, 2495 02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:57,200 Speaker 1: hold up, player, what about this? But what happened eventually 2496 02:01:57,360 --> 02:01:59,320 Speaker 1: was that they weren't even saying negative shit. 2497 02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:02,360 Speaker 2: It was all in my head, you know what I mean. 2498 02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna say something bad about me, 2499 02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:07,720 Speaker 1: because that's just how my brain was working. But it 2500 02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:11,080 Speaker 1: was also because they negative, they weren't really truly positively 2501 02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:13,920 Speaker 1: reinforcing me, so that I had ammunition to walk in 2502 02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:14,879 Speaker 1: there feeling confident. 2503 02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:15,360 Speaker 4: Correct. 2504 02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:18,320 Speaker 1: Two and a half years, the three job changes later, 2505 02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm happier. Still have to deal with the usual bullshit, 2506 02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:22,240 Speaker 1: but I'm better at speaking up for myself and not 2507 02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:26,480 Speaker 1: tolerating having my work appropriated and misattributed. Mm hmm. I 2508 02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:28,560 Speaker 1: love how you just said that. It wasn't that the 2509 02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:32,200 Speaker 1: circumstance is necessarily changed, but you change, and it goes 2510 02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:33,520 Speaker 1: all the way back to what I was saying about 2511 02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:36,880 Speaker 1: those NFL players get We give them so much shit, 2512 02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:40,400 Speaker 1: but we all have a progress we have to get 2513 02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:42,920 Speaker 1: to before we feel firm enough to even stand up 2514 02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:45,760 Speaker 1: in a meeting and be like, hey, for my performance appraisal, 2515 02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:49,040 Speaker 1: this is wrong. I want more. I know my new 2516 02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:53,600 Speaker 1: founts and philosophy will not settle to not settle has 2517 02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:55,280 Speaker 1: a seiling to it, but I'm willing to keep going 2518 02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:57,280 Speaker 1: till I hit it. And when I think I've hit it, 2519 02:02:57,320 --> 02:02:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna push because I guarantee that's still room 2520 02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:03,520 Speaker 1: team to ten percent in the ninety percent you talked about. Anyway, 2521 02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:06,760 Speaker 1: thank you you started so you share some great insights. 2522 02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:10,920 Speaker 1: I always much love appreciated, B. Thank you. B. Raphael 2523 02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:13,560 Speaker 1: says thanks for the reading rainbow in this episode. I've 2524 02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:15,360 Speaker 1: been working in what I thought was a dream job 2525 02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:18,000 Speaker 1: for the last three years and it's been a re education, 2526 02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:21,080 Speaker 1: to say the least. Let me. I didn't even think 2527 02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:23,640 Speaker 1: all this is coming from the reading Rainbow segment We did. 2528 02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:27,440 Speaker 2: Okay, because I was like, I don't even remember talking about. 2529 02:03:27,240 --> 02:03:29,680 Speaker 1: Jobs that much this week, But yeah, it was that 2530 02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:33,040 Speaker 1: reading rainbow. We started about the woman applying for the job, 2531 02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:38,240 Speaker 1: and let me people, you don't like the reading rainbow segment. 2532 02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:43,640 Speaker 1: You don't like the reading rainbow segment. My nigga, that's 2533 02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:47,000 Speaker 1: the jewels, that's the gyms right there. You skipping past 2534 02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:51,640 Speaker 1: good shit stupid. The job is on acres and the 2535 02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:55,320 Speaker 1: benefit is being able to get out and when it's warm, 2536 02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:57,640 Speaker 1: or play video games or paying ball in the break room. 2537 02:03:57,640 --> 02:04:00,760 Speaker 1: I didn't believe that until I saw lol care was right. 2538 02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:03,480 Speaker 1: It's different rules of corporate America ate for us. I 2539 02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:05,840 Speaker 1: get the Hey I stopped buying you were not at 2540 02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:07,960 Speaker 1: your desk, or if I wanted to get away from 2541 02:04:08,360 --> 02:04:10,400 Speaker 1: my desk to work on the paper, it was, hey, 2542 02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:13,879 Speaker 1: are you in the building? The struggle is, the struggle 2543 02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:15,839 Speaker 1: is not to go off when my name is mentioned 2544 02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:19,000 Speaker 1: for doing what everyone else does on the daily you 2545 02:04:19,240 --> 02:04:19,760 Speaker 1: say something. 2546 02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:22,800 Speaker 4: I said, yes, yes, and it's very frustrating. 2547 02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:26,360 Speaker 3: That's one benefit about you, not that I had this 2548 02:04:26,440 --> 02:04:29,040 Speaker 3: at my old job, but one benefit about working at 2549 02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:33,120 Speaker 3: home and some companies is and that's not and that's 2550 02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:36,360 Speaker 3: not it's not actually companies some cultures that have been 2551 02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:39,600 Speaker 3: very controlling. This drives them nuts because now they can't 2552 02:04:39,600 --> 02:04:43,000 Speaker 3: control you, they can't monitor you, that can't watch you 2553 02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:45,480 Speaker 3: every second, and I guarantee you productivity and all that 2554 02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:47,840 Speaker 3: shit doesn't spike through the roof. But they were never 2555 02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:50,920 Speaker 3: contributed that to you, not fucking controlling and pressuring and 2556 02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,400 Speaker 3: looking over the corner and constantly following people. 2557 02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:55,080 Speaker 4: They'll never contribute. 2558 02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:57,920 Speaker 3: That you literally taking taking the pressure off of people. 2559 02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:01,680 Speaker 3: And so now they can take their break, go to 2560 02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:04,240 Speaker 3: the bathroom, eat their lunch. They can do these things 2561 02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:07,760 Speaker 3: without feeling watched every minute, every second, every hour of 2562 02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:08,160 Speaker 3: the day. 2563 02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:12,160 Speaker 1: Right. And the thing is like, people go, white people 2564 02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:14,400 Speaker 1: will especially just get a different job. And I'm like, 2565 02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:17,960 Speaker 1: I feel you, and I'm not saying that it isn't 2566 02:05:17,960 --> 02:05:21,800 Speaker 1: this job, but also, what do you doing this every job? 2567 02:05:23,120 --> 02:05:25,720 Speaker 1: What are you doing when you're at a job where 2568 02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:28,080 Speaker 1: they do let white people do the things that you're 2569 02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:30,200 Speaker 1: saying I should be allowed to do, but they don't 2570 02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:33,120 Speaker 1: let me do them. So now what are we talking? 2571 02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:35,040 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, they watch you like a hawk. No, 2572 02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:36,840 Speaker 1: they watch me like a hall. They don't really watch 2573 02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:38,800 Speaker 1: you like a hall. I don't watch us like a haw. 2574 02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:41,560 Speaker 1: For some reason, it's always me that's getting a little 2575 02:05:41,600 --> 02:05:44,240 Speaker 1: note about, hey, you are three minutes late, and this 2576 02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:46,920 Speaker 1: other motherfucker can come in from fishing and be like, 2577 02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:49,640 Speaker 1: I fell asleep outside by a pond and that's why 2578 02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:52,040 Speaker 1: I came in so late this weekend for the overtime. 2579 02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:54,800 Speaker 1: And they laugh in the meeting as he tells everyone 2580 02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:57,920 Speaker 1: that in the meeting in front of everyone, and he 2581 02:05:57,960 --> 02:06:00,040 Speaker 1: doesn't get pulled to the side and reprimanded it and 2582 02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:03,560 Speaker 1: written up. But my black ass was five minutes late 2583 02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:05,440 Speaker 1: because I stopped to get everybody donuts and we had 2584 02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:07,000 Speaker 1: to have a conversation. You know what I mean. 2585 02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:14,280 Speaker 2: By the way, real story, not made up. It's a 2586 02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:15,320 Speaker 2: pain in my ass. 2587 02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:17,360 Speaker 1: In the ass to try to be twice as good 2588 02:06:17,400 --> 02:06:20,080 Speaker 1: when everyone around you makes the twice the mistakes. It 2589 02:06:20,120 --> 02:06:22,320 Speaker 1: gets to lave it off. Anyway, Thanks for validating how 2590 02:06:22,360 --> 02:06:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure many of us in corporate America feel. Absolutely so. 2591 02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:28,240 Speaker 1: Let's says hi Rod and Karen. I had to write 2592 02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:29,920 Speaker 1: in to thank you all. I used to be a 2593 02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:33,080 Speaker 1: subscriber for the last IRS came a knocking, so I 2594 02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:35,200 Speaker 1: had to discontinue my monthly. But I'm going to donate 2595 02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:37,920 Speaker 1: when I can. I really love reading Rainbow segment and 2596 02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:40,600 Speaker 1: love when you were live at the library. The library 2597 02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:43,040 Speaker 1: has always been one of my safe places. I always 2598 02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:46,280 Speaker 1: wish more took advantage of it of all it has 2599 02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,400 Speaker 1: to offer. Even now, our library has so much available 2600 02:06:49,480 --> 02:06:52,360 Speaker 1: digitally that even though the building is closed, you can 2601 02:06:52,400 --> 02:06:56,160 Speaker 1: still have access to so much for free. I also 2602 02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:58,520 Speaker 1: want to say I really appreciate you both of your 2603 02:06:58,640 --> 02:07:00,840 Speaker 1: very smart, measured and thoughtful tay on what is going 2604 02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:03,600 Speaker 1: on number one COVID nineteen. I work in health care 2605 02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:05,640 Speaker 1: and also have friends who had folks in China and 2606 02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:08,240 Speaker 1: January when it was going down and I was running 2607 02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:10,840 Speaker 1: around screaming like the town crier that it was about 2608 02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:13,000 Speaker 1: to pop off here, I also tried to tell all 2609 02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:15,400 Speaker 1: my peace to prepare one group of friends who include 2610 02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:18,680 Speaker 1: someone who lived through in the skate Warren Africa, and 2611 02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:22,000 Speaker 1: another whose family was impacted by Hurricane Maria, and another 2612 02:07:22,040 --> 02:07:25,400 Speaker 1: whose family is from Jamaica. You not only didn't have 2613 02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:29,440 Speaker 1: to tell us twice we were prepping in fab Bias 2614 02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:31,400 Speaker 1: in health care is real. I have a few books 2615 02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:33,640 Speaker 1: at the end of this for your reading Rainbow segment. 2616 02:07:33,960 --> 02:07:36,000 Speaker 1: You may want to check out that speak on this. 2617 02:07:36,440 --> 02:07:38,280 Speaker 1: One of the reasons I worked so hard to advocate 2618 02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:41,040 Speaker 1: and push for my patients is because honestly, you never 2619 02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:42,920 Speaker 1: know when you will be on the other side, other 2620 02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:45,080 Speaker 1: end at some point, needing someone to do that for you. 2621 02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:49,480 Speaker 1: Come on number two, the protests, the somewhat is mixed 2622 02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:53,760 Speaker 1: up with COVID nineteen two. I am so worried. I'm 2623 02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:56,800 Speaker 1: so worried in relationship to this virus. We are witnessing 2624 02:07:56,920 --> 02:07:59,760 Speaker 1: national super spreader events. Now will say health care for 2625 02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:03,280 Speaker 1: fatigue with this thing is real, and the frustration when 2626 02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:06,000 Speaker 1: they saw people at the beach and the bars was building. 2627 02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:08,760 Speaker 1: But now I think it will unfortunately hit ahead in 2628 02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:11,160 Speaker 1: the next five to twenty one days as the hospital 2629 02:08:11,240 --> 02:08:14,360 Speaker 1: is full of overflowing again looking like Italy. People were 2630 02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:16,680 Speaker 1: adjusting to the new normal, and now it's all tense 2631 02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:19,160 Speaker 1: waiting for the other shoot to drop when it absolutely will, 2632 02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:20,240 Speaker 1: which absolutely will. 2633 02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:22,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so too. 2634 02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:26,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I think that was one of the 2635 02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:28,120 Speaker 1: things that got to me Tuesday and Wednesdays. I feel 2636 02:08:28,120 --> 02:08:31,360 Speaker 1: a measure of sadness, not just about George Floyd and 2637 02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:34,920 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter and Breonna Taylor and all these people 2638 02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:37,360 Speaker 1: being killed by the police. 2639 02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:39,880 Speaker 2: I also feel sad because. 2640 02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:44,080 Speaker 1: Racism is so fucked up that even in the pandemic, 2641 02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:50,120 Speaker 1: we are out here knowing that this diseases out here, 2642 02:08:50,160 --> 02:08:54,200 Speaker 1: and many people may die because they needed to protest. 2643 02:08:54,280 --> 02:08:56,280 Speaker 2: Many people may die because they had to vote. 2644 02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:59,400 Speaker 1: Many you know, these are the demands of what is 2645 02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:02,680 Speaker 1: required to help try to fix this country, and black 2646 02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:06,400 Speaker 1: people being the true patriots that they really are, the 2647 02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:09,600 Speaker 1: ones who actually believe not in America as it is, 2648 02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:13,360 Speaker 1: but in America that has never existed, are the ones 2649 02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:18,240 Speaker 1: that are fucking pushing this place, you know. So yeah, 2650 02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:20,160 Speaker 1: it makes me sad when I see, you know, even 2651 02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:22,640 Speaker 1: my friends and shit out there protesting and they got 2652 02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:25,600 Speaker 1: their masks down around their neck and they're you know, 2653 02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:28,240 Speaker 1: talking into their Facebook live and shit, and they standing 2654 02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:30,280 Speaker 1: there not six feet away from somebody else, And I'm like, 2655 02:09:31,080 --> 02:09:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, I hope this this this thing doesn't come 2656 02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:38,080 Speaker 1: back and hit everybody. And especially since the white people 2657 02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:40,400 Speaker 1: had they protest first, I hope the hospitals aren't full 2658 02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:44,360 Speaker 1: of fucking country redneck ass white people that actually didn't 2659 02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:46,800 Speaker 1: want a social distance said fuck the country and fuck 2660 02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:49,080 Speaker 1: but I need a haircut, and then they got the 2661 02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:51,640 Speaker 1: hospital bed. And then a week later, two weeks later, 2662 02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:54,440 Speaker 1: black people started needing hospital beds and ain't no beds. 2663 02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:57,400 Speaker 1: You know, I think that's a night med scenario. And 2664 02:09:57,480 --> 02:09:59,000 Speaker 1: I just let you all inside my head for a 2665 02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:01,080 Speaker 1: little bit. But that's the kind shit I've been thinking about. 2666 02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:03,080 Speaker 1: And it's depressing as fuck. 2667 02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:07,920 Speaker 3: You know, agreed, and you know, And for me, it's 2668 02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:10,320 Speaker 3: almost like for the people out there that are protesting 2669 02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:12,960 Speaker 3: in Margin, I was like, oh, it's like a. 2670 02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:13,800 Speaker 4: Two edged sword. 2671 02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:18,520 Speaker 3: You got the real live bullets from the police and 2672 02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:22,080 Speaker 3: beating you with batons, and then you have the COVID, 2673 02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:23,560 Speaker 3: which is an unseen thing. 2674 02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:25,480 Speaker 4: So it's like a two edged sword when it comes 2675 02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:26,160 Speaker 4: to your life. 2676 02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, this leads me to the protest as a child 2677 02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:32,240 Speaker 1: of protests, were involved in the civil rights movement, as 2678 02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:35,080 Speaker 1: someone who protested apart tide for the investment and against 2679 02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:39,280 Speaker 1: community violence. Something seems so odd. It seems in a 2680 02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:41,040 Speaker 1: weird way that people are mixing up the issue of 2681 02:10:41,080 --> 02:10:43,800 Speaker 1: holding these police officers accountable in everything that has happened. 2682 02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:48,600 Speaker 1: The pandemic lives is a job racism TM being inside 2683 02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:51,800 Speaker 1: and I honestly feel like the whites TM were co 2684 02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:54,560 Speaker 1: opting as well. They have been waiting for us to 2685 02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:58,360 Speaker 1: do the heavy lifting when surely an incident like this happened, 2686 02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:00,760 Speaker 1: and now using this human shield so they can justify 2687 02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:03,400 Speaker 1: their relative inaction all the way back to electing this 2688 02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:07,000 Speaker 1: fool and not mass mobilization since he has been in office. 2689 02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:09,680 Speaker 1: That's why those Bernie Bros. And Rose Twitter and woke 2690 02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:12,520 Speaker 1: blacks are full of shit. Still ain't out a out 2691 02:11:12,600 --> 02:11:16,080 Speaker 1: except to cause trouble. Yeah, it's a lot of people 2692 02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:20,200 Speaker 1: that they telling us all this leadership shit from the 2693 02:11:20,240 --> 02:11:23,320 Speaker 1: safety of their homes and on Twitter. You know this 2694 02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:26,200 Speaker 1: is we'll see, We'll see. You know, we're gonna be 2695 02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:28,080 Speaker 1: out in the streets. Nigga, You ain't burning nothing. You 2696 02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:33,280 Speaker 1: are holding a fucking zoom event tonight. Like where's Susan Sarandon? 2697 02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:37,920 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like I yeah, it's just crazy. 2698 02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:40,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy, but it makes us feel good to feel 2699 02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:46,280 Speaker 1: revolutionary online. Plus, the coordinates white supremacist aspect of this 2700 02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:50,360 Speaker 1: cannot be denied. They literally have been planning this like Clincadia, 2701 02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:55,160 Speaker 1: Clint Layta, like Clan Cata and like our cater Clan Cata. 2702 02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:59,920 Speaker 1: And because because they are all up in the hall 2703 02:12:00,120 --> 02:12:03,600 Speaker 1: was a power, nobody is stopping them, which brings me 2704 02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:05,520 Speaker 1: to my appreciation of both of you and your stands 2705 02:12:05,560 --> 02:12:08,640 Speaker 1: on President Obama, Michelle Obama, these negros continue to lose 2706 02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:10,960 Speaker 1: their mind when talking about what he should have done 2707 02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:13,560 Speaker 1: slash didn't do against all of this, like, how can 2708 02:12:13,600 --> 02:12:15,840 Speaker 1: you look at the last four years, how many people 2709 02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:19,600 Speaker 1: internally were never on his side, that were forty five supporters, 2710 02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:22,400 Speaker 1: white supremacist and at the very least Bias had come 2711 02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:24,839 Speaker 1: to the conclusion that yes, it's all his fault. Man, 2712 02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:30,200 Speaker 1: I saw somebody who said, not only not the guilt 2713 02:12:30,360 --> 02:12:34,440 Speaker 1: people into voting in twenty sixteen. In addition to that, 2714 02:12:35,680 --> 02:12:38,480 Speaker 1: they also was like, these black podcasts need to stop 2715 02:12:38,520 --> 02:12:42,680 Speaker 1: talking about voting because basically like we don't know shit, 2716 02:12:43,600 --> 02:12:47,960 Speaker 1: you know. And then they was like, and oh Obama speaking, 2717 02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:49,920 Speaker 1: fuck fuck what he got to say? 2718 02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:53,160 Speaker 2: It's his fault for letting Trump get in office. 2719 02:12:53,200 --> 02:12:57,440 Speaker 1: And I'm like, literally, you can't tell people don't worry 2720 02:12:57,480 --> 02:13:00,240 Speaker 1: about voting. If it makes you feel bad, if it 2721 02:13:00,240 --> 02:13:03,840 Speaker 1: doesn't make you feel great, then fuck it literally leading. 2722 02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:05,800 Speaker 2: Us to this motherfucker winning. 2723 02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:09,320 Speaker 1: And then be like, I can't believe the lawful, law 2724 02:13:09,360 --> 02:13:14,360 Speaker 1: abiding president abided the law and this motherfucker and just 2725 02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:17,480 Speaker 1: let this motherfucker be president, as if there's ever been 2726 02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:20,040 Speaker 1: a chance that it wasn't gonna happen that way. The 2727 02:13:20,120 --> 02:13:22,880 Speaker 1: only time we have kept a person who won the 2728 02:13:22,960 --> 02:13:27,960 Speaker 1: general election from being president is win we made sure 2729 02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:31,000 Speaker 1: they didn't win the general election, because it's never happened. 2730 02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:34,200 Speaker 1: Before you win the general election, you get to be president. 2731 02:13:34,480 --> 02:13:38,800 Speaker 1: That's how it's always been. That's it. You can't get 2732 02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:42,080 Speaker 1: mad at this nigga for doing what the fuck always happens. 2733 02:13:42,840 --> 02:13:45,400 Speaker 1: Be mad at your fellow fucking citizens who thought it 2734 02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:49,920 Speaker 1: was a game. The same as the challenge is to 2735 02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:52,880 Speaker 1: the challenge with the abolished the police and prison abolition narrative. 2736 02:13:53,360 --> 02:13:54,960 Speaker 1: When you read from the book about black police and 2737 02:13:55,000 --> 02:13:57,360 Speaker 1: as well as Ida b. Wells and how so many 2738 02:13:57,400 --> 02:13:59,600 Speaker 1: strategies have been tried before and has some failure and 2739 02:13:59,640 --> 02:14:02,480 Speaker 1: something set. It's just so much more nuanced and complex 2740 02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:05,120 Speaker 1: than the media social media most people want to discuss. Yeah, 2741 02:14:05,160 --> 02:14:08,080 Speaker 1: I saw somebody that was like, I'm a prison abolition. Honestly, 2742 02:14:08,120 --> 02:14:10,000 Speaker 1: I was looking at this account. I don't even remember 2743 02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:11,840 Speaker 1: the name, but it had one of those names. 2744 02:14:12,360 --> 02:14:13,440 Speaker 2: It felt like it was a pair. 2745 02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:16,520 Speaker 1: I wish I knew the coco It was like cocoa 2746 02:14:16,600 --> 02:14:20,360 Speaker 1: butter feminist or felm or something. It was just something 2747 02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:23,000 Speaker 1: something like you know, like shade butter woman is or 2748 02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:25,360 Speaker 1: something like something where you would be like is this 2749 02:14:25,600 --> 02:14:28,720 Speaker 1: like is this four chan that's with us? It's got 2750 02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:30,680 Speaker 1: like a cartoon avatar and shit like is this a 2751 02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:31,640 Speaker 1: real person or not? 2752 02:14:31,760 --> 02:14:34,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, Like it's use slang, don't make sense. 2753 02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I hope it's a real I don't 2754 02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:37,640 Speaker 1: know if it's a real person, but who cares, you know, 2755 02:14:37,640 --> 02:14:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't follow them that following me, but I saw 2756 02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:42,240 Speaker 1: someone that like retweeted them or something and they were like, 2757 02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, like they're heavy on prison abolition. Prison abolition, 2758 02:14:46,360 --> 02:14:50,080 Speaker 1: which is a very theoretical thing on Twitter. You know. 2759 02:14:51,400 --> 02:14:54,040 Speaker 1: This is you know, same thing with even defunding the 2760 02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:59,280 Speaker 1: police or abolished the police. It's a theoretical thing. That's fine. 2761 02:14:59,360 --> 02:15:02,880 Speaker 1: I think Tomesy theories would make for a better world 2762 02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:05,240 Speaker 1: than the one we have, So I'm not against the theories. 2763 02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:07,880 Speaker 1: But they are theories, and that means that they're not 2764 02:15:08,040 --> 02:15:10,680 Speaker 1: practical because they haven't had to deal with practicality. They 2765 02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:13,480 Speaker 1: haven't had to deal with realism, right, so I can 2766 02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:15,720 Speaker 1: say anything in the world I've made up. In my 2767 02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:20,200 Speaker 1: world where I made up, everyone does recidivius justice and 2768 02:15:20,240 --> 02:15:24,080 Speaker 1: we do we communityal organizations take over. They don't. There's 2769 02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:26,480 Speaker 1: no such thing as prison, and we have people do 2770 02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:30,240 Speaker 1: restorative justice and everyone agrees to it and everyone's fine, 2771 02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:32,760 Speaker 1: and all the criminals are like, I'm not really a criminal. 2772 02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm just a person that didn't understand. And now I understand, 2773 02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:37,560 Speaker 1: and there are there's no crime, there's no when there 2774 02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:39,880 Speaker 1: is a crime, the person who's a victim of the 2775 02:15:39,880 --> 02:15:42,320 Speaker 1: crime also agrees that, Hey, I don't want to see 2776 02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:44,400 Speaker 1: this person go to jail. I just want them to 2777 02:15:45,080 --> 02:15:47,600 Speaker 1: feel better, even though they kill my cousin, or they 2778 02:15:47,680 --> 02:15:50,440 Speaker 1: killed my wife, or they even though they sexually assaulted me. 2779 02:15:50,800 --> 02:15:52,920 Speaker 1: This is a perfect world where I don't feel vengeance 2780 02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:55,760 Speaker 1: at all. The same people are talking about they so petty, right, 2781 02:15:55,800 --> 02:16:00,200 Speaker 1: But anyway, in this world where this shit happens, you know, 2782 02:16:00,280 --> 02:16:06,400 Speaker 1: you have these theoretical situations dealing with real situations at 2783 02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:10,520 Speaker 1: the same time. So this person was saying, don't say 2784 02:16:10,600 --> 02:16:14,640 Speaker 1: that y'all want to see these cops charged, because that 2785 02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:18,520 Speaker 1: just lends legitimacy to the prison industrial complex. 2786 02:16:20,080 --> 02:16:21,440 Speaker 2: So let me get this right. 2787 02:16:23,720 --> 02:16:26,880 Speaker 1: This motherfucker killed George Floyd in front of our faces. 2788 02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:29,280 Speaker 2: They killed Breonna Taylor while. 2789 02:16:29,120 --> 02:16:29,760 Speaker 1: She was sleep. 2790 02:16:32,360 --> 02:16:34,400 Speaker 2: Justice is they get fired. 2791 02:16:39,680 --> 02:16:42,280 Speaker 1: We okay, they get fired, but we also defund the 2792 02:16:42,280 --> 02:16:46,040 Speaker 1: police department. But the motherfuckers that just killed something, that's 2793 02:16:46,080 --> 02:16:49,920 Speaker 1: there's nothing to be done about that. That's the new world. 2794 02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:52,920 Speaker 3: I think when people speak, they don't speak from a 2795 02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:55,200 Speaker 3: logical place like do you think doesn't make sense? 2796 02:16:55,400 --> 02:16:58,320 Speaker 1: Do you think the majority of anybody is on board 2797 02:16:58,320 --> 02:17:01,840 Speaker 1: with that? And that looks like the old world to 2798 02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:04,360 Speaker 1: me anyway, where they get away with killing us and 2799 02:17:04,440 --> 02:17:05,200 Speaker 1: nothing happens. 2800 02:17:05,680 --> 02:17:08,280 Speaker 2: Oh, they lost a job. We're already at lost a job. 2801 02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:11,320 Speaker 1: All that motherfuckers end up losing a job because the 2802 02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:14,400 Speaker 1: problem gotta go away, so the system continue to exist. 2803 02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:17,800 Speaker 1: So right, like, who's on board with this? 2804 02:17:18,200 --> 02:17:21,640 Speaker 2: And how why is that so popular online? 2805 02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:25,000 Speaker 1: But in real fucking life, when you stand in front 2806 02:17:25,040 --> 02:17:26,520 Speaker 1: of a room, I don't give a fuck if it's 2807 02:17:26,560 --> 02:17:28,760 Speaker 1: one hundred percent black people in that room and you 2808 02:17:28,920 --> 02:17:31,959 Speaker 1: tell them part of this deal is the people that 2809 02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:35,720 Speaker 1: kill us that are cops were not doing nothing. You 2810 02:17:35,879 --> 02:17:37,520 Speaker 1: not getting everyone that created that shit. 2811 02:17:37,560 --> 02:17:41,000 Speaker 4: They're gonna be like, nope, I'm not trying to hear that, Yeah. 2812 02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:43,160 Speaker 1: You're not getting people that greeted that shit. It's not 2813 02:17:43,560 --> 02:17:45,600 Speaker 1: you know. And I'm not ever gonna feel bad about 2814 02:17:45,640 --> 02:17:48,080 Speaker 1: being realistic about that. And I don't feel bad about 2815 02:17:48,240 --> 02:17:51,359 Speaker 1: saying Michelle Obama and Barack Obama are black fucking royalty 2816 02:17:51,480 --> 02:17:54,560 Speaker 1: and people love them, like, I'm not gonna get fucking 2817 02:17:54,640 --> 02:17:57,560 Speaker 1: gas lit by Twitter and the BA like I'm crazy. Yeah, 2818 02:17:57,600 --> 02:17:58,280 Speaker 1: and the saying some. 2819 02:17:58,240 --> 02:18:00,760 Speaker 2: Shit that's not true, I'm not gonna do it because when. 2820 02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:02,720 Speaker 3: I turn because when I turn this off and talk 2821 02:18:02,800 --> 02:18:07,160 Speaker 3: to talk to people offline, black people offline, they're like, yes, 2822 02:18:07,240 --> 02:18:09,840 Speaker 3: I love Michelle Obama, and they would say that statement 2823 02:18:09,920 --> 02:18:11,360 Speaker 3: is dumb and lock them up. 2824 02:18:11,680 --> 02:18:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2825 02:18:12,200 --> 02:18:15,000 Speaker 2: So now I'm not falling for that bullshit. Yes, I want. 2826 02:18:15,080 --> 02:18:17,080 Speaker 1: I want to tell you to vote, and I think 2827 02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:18,959 Speaker 1: you should vote, and I think you stupid if you 2828 02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:21,920 Speaker 1: don't vote. Yes, I do. All those things are true. 2829 02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:24,879 Speaker 1: And if you're gonna stand up in your I don't 2830 02:18:24,920 --> 02:18:26,840 Speaker 1: give a fucktion this, then I'm gonna stand up in 2831 02:18:26,879 --> 02:18:27,760 Speaker 1: mine on I don't give. 2832 02:18:27,600 --> 02:18:29,400 Speaker 2: A fuck this and judge you, and you just deal 2833 02:18:29,440 --> 02:18:30,040 Speaker 2: with the judgment. 2834 02:18:30,080 --> 02:18:32,720 Speaker 1: You'll be okay. Remember that's the whole thing. You're making 2835 02:18:32,720 --> 02:18:35,200 Speaker 1: a stand what everybody got staring with. You stand by 2836 02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:38,000 Speaker 1: yourself and let me judge. The other part of it is, 2837 02:18:38,920 --> 02:18:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm not joining in on the hate train on the 2838 02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:43,119 Speaker 1: Obama's online because that's some online shit. 2839 02:18:43,280 --> 02:18:43,800 Speaker 4: Yes it is. 2840 02:18:43,879 --> 02:18:45,800 Speaker 1: It's not real, you know, don't. 2841 02:18:46,200 --> 02:18:48,320 Speaker 3: That's why the lot of them always shocked and surprised 2842 02:18:48,400 --> 02:18:51,200 Speaker 3: when everybody goes against everything that they've told you. 2843 02:18:51,240 --> 02:18:55,520 Speaker 2: It's true online, right, Like I'm good man. Anyway, thanks 2844 02:18:55,520 --> 02:18:56,360 Speaker 2: for all the y'all dealing. 2845 02:18:56,400 --> 02:18:58,480 Speaker 1: The following are some additional books in case you didn't 2846 02:18:58,480 --> 02:19:00,960 Speaker 1: know why she left some books, which is funny because 2847 02:19:00,959 --> 02:19:02,400 Speaker 1: I already have some of these books. I just haven't 2848 02:19:02,400 --> 02:19:06,600 Speaker 1: gotten reading them. Guys. My reading is a struggle right now. 2849 02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:08,720 Speaker 1: I read. I can read a comic book, but a 2850 02:19:08,760 --> 02:19:12,280 Speaker 1: fucking book book. This pandemic has robbed me of my 2851 02:19:12,320 --> 02:19:15,640 Speaker 1: ability so much going on to read a fucking book, 2852 02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:21,320 Speaker 1: but I'm struggling through it. I'm still reading The Wedding Party. 2853 02:19:21,400 --> 02:19:23,360 Speaker 1: I believe it's the name of it. I'm still reading 2854 02:19:23,360 --> 02:19:26,960 Speaker 1: that book. It's just slow as fuck. Now. I read 2855 02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:28,879 Speaker 1: like a paragraph for a page, and I'm just like 2856 02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:31,400 Speaker 1: a right, I have to do something else. I'm trying 2857 02:19:31,520 --> 02:19:32,199 Speaker 1: and that's fine. 2858 02:19:32,280 --> 02:19:37,039 Speaker 3: That's fine because because that's more than nothing. So you know, 2859 02:19:37,160 --> 02:19:40,160 Speaker 3: for some people, for some people they naturally relac that anyway, 2860 02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:42,119 Speaker 3: They don't sit down and read fust this the periods 2861 02:19:42,120 --> 02:19:42,440 Speaker 3: of time. 2862 02:19:42,760 --> 02:19:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, So. 2863 02:19:47,160 --> 02:19:49,560 Speaker 1: The books are that she put in here, White Rage, 2864 02:19:49,720 --> 02:19:52,120 Speaker 1: the unspoken truth of our racial to vibe. Carroll Anderson, 2865 02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:54,560 Speaker 1: I have it. She also was just interviewed on Jonathan K. 2866 02:19:54,680 --> 02:19:57,440 Speaker 1: Part's podcasting You guys want to hear a great episode 2867 02:19:57,480 --> 02:20:01,840 Speaker 1: that was amazing Jonathan K. Park c at the end, yeah, 2868 02:20:01,920 --> 02:20:05,120 Speaker 1: cape up. Yeah, it's a great podcast. Number two one person, 2869 02:20:05,200 --> 02:20:08,200 Speaker 1: no Voe. How voter suppresion is destroying out democracy. Carol Anderson, 2870 02:20:08,360 --> 02:20:11,400 Speaker 1: I also have that book. Shout to Jail Covin put 2871 02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:15,160 Speaker 1: me onto that three Fatal Invention, How science, politics, and 2872 02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:18,720 Speaker 1: big business recreate race in the twenty first century. Darthy Roberts. 2873 02:20:18,760 --> 02:20:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't have that one, and Dying of Whiteness. The 2874 02:20:22,520 --> 02:20:25,600 Speaker 1: politics of racial resentment is killing America's heartland. Jonathan M. 2875 02:20:26,959 --> 02:20:31,600 Speaker 1: METSI once again heard him on a podcast. Cannot remember 2876 02:20:31,640 --> 02:20:33,879 Speaker 1: if I own that book or not in my kindle, 2877 02:20:34,480 --> 02:20:38,520 Speaker 1: but I mean sound like something up up my alley anyway, 2878 02:20:40,040 --> 02:20:42,200 Speaker 1: I'll copy and paste and put these in the chat 2879 02:20:42,280 --> 02:20:45,480 Speaker 1: room for people if they want to see these books themselves. 2880 02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:48,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, this is a great list. Like I said, 2881 02:20:48,959 --> 02:20:51,520 Speaker 1: I haven't read all of these, any of these. Actually 2882 02:20:51,680 --> 02:20:53,680 Speaker 1: I haven't read any of these yet, but I own 2883 02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:57,680 Speaker 1: some of these because I'm into it, you know, you 2884 02:20:57,680 --> 02:21:01,840 Speaker 1: know that's my my jam Carroll say something. 2885 02:21:03,000 --> 02:21:04,560 Speaker 4: Oh, I know what. I was gonna ask you what 2886 02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:08,119 Speaker 4: what was? Uh? You said it was cape up and what. 2887 02:21:07,959 --> 02:21:12,600 Speaker 1: Was her name? Her name is Carol Anderson. The episode 2888 02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:15,920 Speaker 1: name was something like it was it was a fire title. 2889 02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:17,360 Speaker 1: I remember because that was the thing that made me 2890 02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:19,000 Speaker 1: want to listen to it. I was like, yo, this, 2891 02:21:19,640 --> 02:21:23,040 Speaker 1: like I know they talked about it. The title is 2892 02:21:23,680 --> 02:21:26,800 Speaker 1: the author of White Fragility doesn't think most white people 2893 02:21:26,840 --> 02:21:30,160 Speaker 1: care about racial injustice. So that's what it was. Yeah, 2894 02:21:30,320 --> 02:21:33,760 Speaker 1: Robin DiAngelo, White fragility. Uh so not White Rage, which 2895 02:21:33,800 --> 02:21:36,360 Speaker 1: I own out as well, but White Fragility is the one. 2896 02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:41,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's see back to this. Dizzy Lizzie says, 2897 02:21:42,720 --> 02:21:45,320 Speaker 1: just heard about Ralph Northill mcgren to remove Roberty Lee 2898 02:21:45,400 --> 02:21:48,000 Speaker 1: statue from Richmond, and I can't wait for y'all to 2899 02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:51,440 Speaker 1: cover this, uh, And to Ralph. Not only is he invited, 2900 02:21:51,560 --> 02:21:53,680 Speaker 1: I will make a plate for him, Dizzy Lizzie Gal 2901 02:21:54,360 --> 02:21:55,560 Speaker 1: I told y'all man. 2902 02:21:55,720 --> 02:21:57,400 Speaker 3: And he did it in the cover nights so they 2903 02:21:57,400 --> 02:21:59,560 Speaker 3: couldn't come up there in protest. They walk up the 2904 02:21:59,560 --> 02:22:02,240 Speaker 3: next more we're out there and this ship was gone. 2905 02:22:02,560 --> 02:22:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure we'll be welcoming him to the cookout again, 2906 02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:10,680 Speaker 1: which he is already at in attending Let's see Bat. 2907 02:22:11,120 --> 02:22:13,320 Speaker 1: In fact, I don't know if I'm saying that. Right 2908 02:22:13,879 --> 02:22:16,800 Speaker 1: left of it just has a fantastic remix. It's the 2909 02:22:16,920 --> 02:22:21,240 Speaker 1: DJ Sway remix to about to Lose Your Job. I 2910 02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:23,840 Speaker 1: don't know if y'all seen this original video. I could 2911 02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:26,560 Speaker 1: show you guys in the chat, but it was a 2912 02:22:26,600 --> 02:22:30,080 Speaker 1: black woman being arrested by a police officer and she 2913 02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:32,119 Speaker 1: starts dancing talking about you're about. 2914 02:22:31,879 --> 02:22:34,080 Speaker 2: To lose your job. 2915 02:22:34,720 --> 02:22:39,640 Speaker 1: Do they have the original on here? Huh? 2916 02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:41,920 Speaker 2: I guess you got to hit the original first. 2917 02:22:42,800 --> 02:22:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, you about to lose your job? So 2918 02:22:49,280 --> 02:22:53,879 Speaker 1: the Let's see original remix You're about to lose your job. See, 2919 02:22:53,879 --> 02:22:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't know which of these is okay, You're about 2920 02:22:57,560 --> 02:23:03,280 Speaker 1: to lose your job became an internet anthem against police reality. Yeah, 2921 02:23:03,320 --> 02:23:05,000 Speaker 1: the name of the woman in the video remains a no. 2922 02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:07,920 Speaker 1: She asked created an Instagram account the user name get 2923 02:23:07,920 --> 02:23:11,320 Speaker 1: this Dance. Uh yeah, she was like, get this dance? 2924 02:23:12,040 --> 02:23:14,560 Speaker 1: So this is I think the video. I don't think is. 2925 02:23:14,680 --> 02:23:19,200 Speaker 11: But I don't want to be detained for no goddamn reason. Yeah, 2926 02:23:19,320 --> 02:23:23,360 Speaker 11: that's how the fuck I at naturally ask anybody who 2927 02:23:23,400 --> 02:23:25,920 Speaker 11: knows what you're a school for the fuck are you 2928 02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:30,680 Speaker 11: talking about? Why are you detaining me? You about to 2929 02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:34,800 Speaker 11: lose jo job? You about to lose your job? 2930 02:23:34,879 --> 02:23:35,600 Speaker 4: Get this dance? 2931 02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:39,519 Speaker 11: You about to lose your job because you are detaining 2932 02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:44,360 Speaker 11: me for nothing. A you're turning me for nothing. Ain't 2933 02:23:44,440 --> 02:23:48,520 Speaker 11: you but to lose your job? You ain't even got 2934 02:23:48,520 --> 02:23:51,520 Speaker 11: no job cause you try me, You got to lose 2935 02:23:51,560 --> 02:23:52,000 Speaker 11: your job. 2936 02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:54,760 Speaker 4: You bet to lose your job. You bet to lose 2937 02:23:55,200 --> 02:23:58,199 Speaker 4: yo job? Is this shit worth you losing your job? 2938 02:23:59,640 --> 02:23:59,959 Speaker 1: Cause you. 2939 02:24:01,480 --> 02:24:04,400 Speaker 11: Because you ain't got no reason after passed. 2940 02:24:05,640 --> 02:24:08,360 Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie. I never 2941 02:24:08,400 --> 02:24:10,400 Speaker 1: watched the original video because I didn't want to see 2942 02:24:10,400 --> 02:24:12,480 Speaker 1: a black woman in handcufs with the police around her, 2943 02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:14,200 Speaker 1: because that is not my jam. 2944 02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:16,039 Speaker 4: Because I seen neative. 2945 02:24:17,920 --> 02:24:20,160 Speaker 1: Like I knew people were sharing it and laughing and Ship, 2946 02:24:20,200 --> 02:24:22,039 Speaker 1: and I did see like a couple of seconds of 2947 02:24:23,640 --> 02:24:25,840 Speaker 1: but I was just like, man, I've seen so many 2948 02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:28,960 Speaker 1: videos of black people with police. I couldn't I'm trying 2949 02:24:28,959 --> 02:24:30,840 Speaker 1: to avoid all this content. I know a lot of 2950 02:24:30,879 --> 02:24:32,840 Speaker 1: people think they need to see everything and all the 2951 02:24:32,879 --> 02:24:35,800 Speaker 1: stuff on the protest, but I still haven't seen the 2952 02:24:35,879 --> 02:24:38,600 Speaker 1: video that man falling down and getting it pushed by 2953 02:24:38,640 --> 02:24:41,600 Speaker 1: the cops and Ship. I just don't want to see 2954 02:24:41,720 --> 02:24:44,280 Speaker 1: the police doing what the police fucking do. White people 2955 02:24:44,360 --> 02:24:46,640 Speaker 1: might need to see it, but I definitely already understand 2956 02:24:46,640 --> 02:24:47,520 Speaker 1: what the fuck they do. 2957 02:24:47,640 --> 02:24:48,879 Speaker 4: You know how I feel about. 2958 02:24:49,160 --> 02:24:54,440 Speaker 2: But swayed the remix. God, it's that dude. 2959 02:24:55,480 --> 02:24:58,680 Speaker 1: So he saw the video and remixed it. I haven't 2960 02:24:58,720 --> 02:25:01,560 Speaker 1: heard it yet, but I'm I mean, I feel like 2961 02:25:01,680 --> 02:25:08,520 Speaker 1: Swede has never failed to deliver. You know, you know 2962 02:25:08,640 --> 02:25:10,879 Speaker 1: we had to catch you out catch me outside remix. 2963 02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:13,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to get you, bitch, and I'm gonna get 2964 02:25:13,280 --> 02:25:14,560 Speaker 3: you when you least expected. 2965 02:25:18,120 --> 02:25:25,600 Speaker 1: Yep, that. 2966 02:25:29,879 --> 02:25:38,119 Speaker 4: Catch me oute, Get. 2967 02:25:37,959 --> 02:25:43,440 Speaker 11: Me off, Get me up, get me off, get me off. 2968 02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:49,959 Speaker 1: On The Hols are laughing, The Hols are laughing, The 2969 02:25:50,040 --> 02:25:52,680 Speaker 1: whole are laughing the audience a bunch of hose. 2970 02:25:53,520 --> 02:25:58,640 Speaker 4: Yeah what I just say? 2971 02:25:57,920 --> 02:26:05,000 Speaker 1: What I just said? How about that? How about that? 2972 02:26:06,280 --> 02:26:07,039 Speaker 4: How about that? 2973 02:26:08,280 --> 02:26:10,039 Speaker 1: How about that? Came me outside? 2974 02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:11,039 Speaker 4: How about that? 2975 02:26:11,360 --> 02:26:13,199 Speaker 1: And then you had shinny. 2976 02:26:12,959 --> 02:26:20,520 Speaker 8: Sharp feeling the mob, Yeah, yesterday, skill, I ben need 2977 02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:22,959 Speaker 8: mother and hendog and now y'all got problems with me. 2978 02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,320 Speaker 1: Let me celebrate. I'll be on the mile on the mile. 2979 02:26:26,920 --> 02:26:32,840 Speaker 12: Mo yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna need mothers in hand 2980 02:26:32,920 --> 02:26:48,680 Speaker 12: dog mother, mom, mom, mo, y mom mom. 2981 02:26:49,000 --> 02:26:53,160 Speaker 1: The mob, the mob, Yeah, you talking crazy. You need 2982 02:26:53,200 --> 02:26:55,640 Speaker 1: to quitted skill. You need to quitting skill. 2983 02:26:56,040 --> 02:26:57,320 Speaker 4: You need to quitted skill. 2984 02:26:58,200 --> 02:26:59,040 Speaker 1: You crazy. 2985 02:26:59,360 --> 02:27:04,840 Speaker 8: You need skill it skill skill, skill, skill skill kill. 2986 02:27:04,720 --> 02:27:08,120 Speaker 1: For frog headed pocket, he will carry a knife. Pay 2987 02:27:08,520 --> 02:27:13,360 Speaker 1: stab the spake. If a ball had a cottee, he 2988 02:27:13,440 --> 02:27:17,240 Speaker 1: would carry a knife. Hey, stabs sake. Hey, before we 2989 02:27:19,879 --> 02:27:20,920 Speaker 1: live yet? 2990 02:27:21,560 --> 02:27:23,280 Speaker 4: Five yat my. 2991 02:27:26,520 --> 02:27:30,080 Speaker 6: Mile with a yat mile with the yack oh mile 2992 02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:43,080 Speaker 6: with yack y mom. 2993 02:27:44,240 --> 02:27:48,280 Speaker 1: Let me celebrate, man, how can't you love being black dog? 2994 02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:51,440 Speaker 1: And so then, of course, the other my favorite remix 2995 02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:53,080 Speaker 1: is this one. 2996 02:27:52,320 --> 02:27:59,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, I. 2997 02:27:59,560 --> 02:28:05,800 Speaker 13: Gots creams, potatoes, tomatoes, lamps, jeans, crease potatoes, tomatoes, chi 2998 02:28:06,200 --> 02:28:09,480 Speaker 13: chi cheans creams potatoes. 2999 02:28:09,120 --> 02:28:12,439 Speaker 4: To meat Us lamps, rare pot cham James. 3000 02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:15,359 Speaker 13: Creams potatoes to Meatus chicken chicken chickens. 3001 02:28:15,160 --> 02:28:16,720 Speaker 4: Chicken and the chemes creams. 3002 02:28:16,520 --> 02:28:21,440 Speaker 13: Potatoes to Meatus lamps, rampal champ cheans creams potatoes, Tomatus 3003 02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:26,720 Speaker 13: chicken chick is Crams creams potatoes, tomatoes, jeans, creams. 3004 02:28:26,440 --> 02:28:31,920 Speaker 7: Potatoes, tomatoes, peas creams, potatoes, creams, Patriams creams creams, chamescheas 3005 02:28:32,040 --> 02:28:37,760 Speaker 7: creams potatoes, tomatoes, chicken, chicken chat creams potatoes, tomatos, chicken, 3006 02:28:37,959 --> 02:28:38,920 Speaker 7: church is pet. 3007 02:28:39,959 --> 02:28:59,480 Speaker 5: You name it, you name it, naow. 3008 02:28:52,120 --> 02:28:56,680 Speaker 2: So, but yeah and so now it brings us to this. 3009 02:28:57,240 --> 02:28:58,520 Speaker 4: You about to lose your job. 3010 02:28:58,640 --> 02:28:59,680 Speaker 1: I have not heard this before. 3011 02:29:00,120 --> 02:29:00,560 Speaker 4: Remix. 3012 02:29:00,840 --> 02:29:02,480 Speaker 1: Let's see what sway did. 3013 02:29:02,720 --> 02:29:06,800 Speaker 11: You about the lose Joe job? You about the lose 3014 02:29:06,879 --> 02:29:09,840 Speaker 11: your job? Get this dance. You were about the lose 3015 02:29:09,920 --> 02:29:20,080 Speaker 11: your job because you are entertaining me for not about job. 3016 02:29:30,600 --> 02:29:33,120 Speaker 11: You're about Jose. 3017 02:29:37,200 --> 02:29:49,440 Speaker 9: Okay, hold up, why did they put on the video 3018 02:29:49,800 --> 02:29:54,560 Speaker 9: They put the pocals they got arrested for George Floyd. 3019 02:29:54,760 --> 02:29:55,920 Speaker 1: You about to lose your job. 3020 02:29:56,879 --> 02:30:04,480 Speaker 4: You're about the job. You give a jump jump. 3021 02:30:20,800 --> 02:30:25,160 Speaker 11: This ship your job because you bought because you ain't 3022 02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:26,920 Speaker 11: got no reason, no reason? 3023 02:30:28,440 --> 02:30:30,080 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's dope. 3024 02:30:30,560 --> 02:30:33,320 Speaker 2: Oh so yeah, thank you for that remix. 3025 02:30:33,560 --> 02:30:36,959 Speaker 1: We uh, we appreciate it. That's a much needed, uh 3026 02:30:37,120 --> 02:30:41,200 Speaker 1: much needed thing that happened today. And lastly, we got 3027 02:30:41,200 --> 02:30:44,840 Speaker 1: this email from Kyle Hi, y'all. Two points. One have 3028 02:30:44,959 --> 02:30:46,920 Speaker 1: you tried? I've tried to leave a five star of 3029 02:30:46,920 --> 02:30:49,279 Speaker 1: your on iTunes podcast app multiple times, and it always 3030 02:30:49,280 --> 02:30:51,480 Speaker 1: says thanks for your submission or something, but I never 3031 02:30:51,480 --> 02:30:54,280 Speaker 1: see it posted. I having sued the submission is clean, 3032 02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:56,600 Speaker 1: but I never see it in on the app. Am 3033 02:30:56,640 --> 02:30:57,720 Speaker 1: I doing something wrong? 3034 02:30:59,840 --> 02:31:00,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 3035 02:31:01,600 --> 02:31:02,400 Speaker 1: Are you logged in? 3036 02:31:04,320 --> 02:31:06,560 Speaker 4: You might try to leave it in a lack of 3037 02:31:06,600 --> 02:31:07,280 Speaker 4: physical computer. 3038 02:31:07,320 --> 02:31:10,519 Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, maybe try an actual computer with iTunes 3039 02:31:10,560 --> 02:31:13,720 Speaker 1: on it, something like that, or go to the website 3040 02:31:13,760 --> 02:31:17,960 Speaker 1: and try it. Not sure that's not a other than Curson. 3041 02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:21,280 Speaker 1: I've never seen that hat before. Number two below is 3042 02:31:21,320 --> 02:31:23,520 Speaker 1: what I tried to post. This podcast always comes through. 3043 02:31:23,560 --> 02:31:25,480 Speaker 1: The past two plus weeks have been an emotional roller 3044 02:31:25,480 --> 02:31:28,160 Speaker 1: coaster for black folks, from George Floyd to white friends 3045 02:31:28,160 --> 02:31:30,360 Speaker 1: telling you how much they learned about white privilege and 3046 02:31:30,360 --> 02:31:33,039 Speaker 1: how sorry they are that Candice Owners chucking to the 3047 02:31:33,080 --> 02:31:35,680 Speaker 1: white lady in Central Park. 3048 02:31:35,680 --> 02:31:38,440 Speaker 2: I still haven't seen the candas owners video and refuse. 3049 02:31:39,080 --> 02:31:39,680 Speaker 4: Nah, I'm good. 3050 02:31:40,680 --> 02:31:43,200 Speaker 1: I would listen to that after I listened to Rushlumba 3051 02:31:43,320 --> 02:31:47,520 Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club. Okay, guys, and in other words, 3052 02:31:46,840 --> 02:31:52,480 Speaker 1: never wear it to Drew Brees, adding Trump directly, and 3053 02:31:52,560 --> 02:31:55,640 Speaker 1: finally to DC saying screw it. We renaming the street 3054 02:31:55,640 --> 02:31:58,920 Speaker 1: black Lives Matter. Yeah, I saw that too, and they. 3055 02:31:58,800 --> 02:32:02,200 Speaker 4: Rode it down the street and big yell ass letters. 3056 02:32:03,480 --> 02:32:07,160 Speaker 1: Uh, someone's stray painting out there. Still not enough. I 3057 02:32:07,240 --> 02:32:09,000 Speaker 1: knew I was gonna have it when I've seen the past. 3058 02:32:09,040 --> 02:32:11,160 Speaker 1: I said that it's gonna be some black people out 3059 02:32:11,160 --> 02:32:14,720 Speaker 1: there like that. You ain't chricking me. Despite the highs 3060 02:32:14,720 --> 02:32:17,039 Speaker 1: and lows of black life, this podcast always helps get 3061 02:32:17,040 --> 02:32:19,880 Speaker 1: through these tough times. Thanks for everything you do, all 3062 02:32:19,920 --> 02:32:23,280 Speaker 1: the best, Kyle, Thank you, Thanks Kyle, And as we 3063 02:32:23,360 --> 02:32:36,120 Speaker 1: always stay here, guys, ain't we looking? We got good time? Yee? 3064 02:32:37,120 --> 02:32:40,320 Speaker 1: The Black Film Vive before your audience. All right, y'all, 3065 02:32:40,720 --> 02:32:44,280 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Until then, I love you. 3066 02:32:44,320 --> 02:32:47,039 Speaker 1: Oh wait, tomorrow's guest is gonna be Roy wad Jr. 3067 02:32:48,360 --> 02:32:50,879 Speaker 1: So you know we got that going for us. 3068 02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:55,440 Speaker 3: Oh and don't forget to tune into Keeping the Girl 3069 02:32:55,520 --> 02:32:59,440 Speaker 3: and get your tickets at Keepinggirl dot com Tonight tonight, 3070 02:32:59,440 --> 02:33:00,800 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, at eight. 3071 02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:06,280 Speaker 1: Pm, you will see me live playing through a zoom 3072 02:33:06,760 --> 02:33:12,279 Speaker 1: playing some silent trailers. Okay, and it's a star studied event. Okay. 3073 02:33:12,400 --> 02:33:16,200 Speaker 1: So hopefully you guys show up. A fear Allixenberg is 3074 02:33:16,240 --> 02:33:20,000 Speaker 1: gonna be there, Bow and Yang from Saturday Night Live 3075 02:33:20,080 --> 02:33:24,080 Speaker 1: is gonna be there, Kevin Allison's gonna be there. People 3076 02:33:24,080 --> 02:33:25,600 Speaker 1: that are listening to Keith and Girl that are fans 3077 02:33:25,640 --> 02:33:28,880 Speaker 1: are gonna be there, including myself, And I'm gonna show 3078 02:33:28,959 --> 02:33:31,080 Speaker 1: up and try to kick Keep's ass. It is all 3079 02:33:31,120 --> 02:33:35,680 Speaker 1: about trying to guess what the movie trailer is that 3080 02:33:35,800 --> 02:33:38,959 Speaker 1: him does watching. She notoriously does not watch movies, right, 3081 02:33:39,040 --> 02:33:41,120 Speaker 1: and she's gonna describe it to us with none of 3082 02:33:41,160 --> 02:33:43,240 Speaker 1: us being able to see what it is, and we 3083 02:33:43,360 --> 02:33:45,640 Speaker 1: try to guess what the fuck the movie is. All right, 3084 02:33:45,720 --> 02:33:48,520 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a fun time no matter what. 3085 02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:50,400 Speaker 1: So hopefully you guys show up and enjoy it. 3086 02:33:50,480 --> 02:33:53,039 Speaker 4: Yes, and use a code TBGWT to get half off. 3087 02:33:53,160 --> 02:33:55,960 Speaker 1: Get half off your tickets. Go to keithandegirl dot com 3088 02:33:55,959 --> 02:33:58,920 Speaker 1: slash tickets get half off your ticket with cold TBGWT. 3089 02:33:59,320 --> 02:34:00,640 Speaker 2: Hope to see some you there, guys. 3090 02:34:00,640 --> 02:34:03,160 Speaker 1: I need some black people there are supporting me as 3091 02:34:03,200 --> 02:34:05,800 Speaker 1: we try to win the contest, and then I need 3092 02:34:05,840 --> 02:34:08,120 Speaker 1: y'all to you know, if I don't win, we're gonna 3093 02:34:08,120 --> 02:34:11,000 Speaker 1: say it was racism and black lives matter, and they're 3094 02:34:11,000 --> 02:34:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to write me several DMS to explain to 3095 02:34:14,640 --> 02:34:17,800 Speaker 1: me white privilege. So you know, we need to get 3096 02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:20,560 Speaker 1: this white guilt w while we can. Okay, this is 3097 02:34:20,560 --> 02:34:23,480 Speaker 1: this George Floyd Wave is not gonna last forever, all right, y'all, 3098 02:34:23,520 --> 02:34:24,760 Speaker 1: until next time. I love you,