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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome episode number twelve the Hunting Collective. I've

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Speaker 1: been O'Brien and today we are joined by Fred Eichler.

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Speaker 1: Fred Eichler has been in the outdoor industry for quite

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Speaker 1: a while, twenty seven years to be exact. He's an outfitter,

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Speaker 1: he's a TV show host, he's a writer, a photographer,

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Speaker 1: a man of many talents. And not only that man,

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Speaker 1: he is a fun dude to hang around with. And

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Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of turkey hunting at Full Draw

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Speaker 1: Outfitters in near Aguilar, or Colorado, where he's based at

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Speaker 1: the base of the Spanish Peaks of beautiful range that

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Speaker 1: runs through that part of the world. And you know,

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Speaker 1: to say that his properties and ranches are impressive with

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Speaker 1: me an understatement, and the place he lives, the lifestyle

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Speaker 1: he lives, his family um is impressive. And I enjoyed

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Speaker 1: hanging out with him. And we killed a turkey on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Cool story, what you'll hear about. And we went on

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Speaker 1: what he calls a game drive. And the game drive

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Speaker 1: was just riding around the truck looking for animals. So

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Speaker 1: at the tail end of our game drive, we hopped

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Speaker 1: on the microphones and did a podcast. It's a little impromptu,

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Speaker 1: a little crazy, a little all over the place, but

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Speaker 1: in an awesome conversation nonetheless. So without further ado, Episode

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Speaker 1: number twelve, Fred Eichler, we live. Where are we at? Fred?

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Speaker 1: And I always like to ask people when we're doing this,

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Speaker 1: where where we are? To describe our surroundings. Well, we're

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Speaker 1: in southern Colorado. Uh, we're actually on the back of

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Speaker 1: our ranch. Um, and uh, beautiful country. We're in kind

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Speaker 1: of ponderosa spruce. Um, we're gonna drop it down into

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Speaker 1: some more sage and cedars in juniper country. But uh,

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Speaker 1: that's whe're at southern called right on north of Trinidad

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Speaker 1: and the south of Pueblo. Yeah, we're driving. We're in

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Speaker 1: the truck and we're moving. We're driving through beautiful valley

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Speaker 1: where like the Spanish peaks are right to our the

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Speaker 1: tailgate of our truck. And uh, Fred's house and it's

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Speaker 1: beautiful family and garden and horses and goats and chickens

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Speaker 1: and dogs. It's quite another pigs and then so I

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Speaker 1: didn't see a pig, but no, well I am considered

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Speaker 1: one of the but the local swan. But yeah, my

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Speaker 1: wife says, I eat it all but uh yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: not We're not lacking. We're not dog poor as you

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Speaker 1: can see. And and uh yeah, the the animals are

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Speaker 1: a big, big part of what we do, whether it's

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Speaker 1: kettle or horses or like you said, the chickens, chicken

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Speaker 1: eggs and chickens all good. How long have you had

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Speaker 1: this ranch? I mean you have a series of properties,

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Speaker 1: but how long specifically on this You know, we've leased

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Speaker 1: this one for coming up on twenty years. Um, we've

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Speaker 1: owned it for about third teen fourteen years and uh

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Speaker 1: been a blast. Uh, you know, a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: The couple we got it from, their their biggest thing

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Speaker 1: see it continue to be a working, a working ranch.

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Speaker 1: So I did a lot of work in the fences.

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Speaker 1: Um they were getting up in age and and just

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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't didn't want to do some of

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Speaker 1: the work that you know, really it entails, you know,

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Speaker 1: we we've continued to work the we worked around. We

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Speaker 1: do a little farming, run a few cows, um of

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Speaker 1: course round the outfitting business, which is a big part

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Speaker 1: or they chase the deer around shooting with rifles. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we saw turkeys, many many turkeys. We saw mule deer,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what a place. What a place to live.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about we haven't same black bears.

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Speaker 1: And uh, let's get up early. And some guys are like,

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Speaker 1: The other thing we were talking about is just you know,

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Speaker 1: more than almost a lot of folks that have that

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Speaker 1: but it makes you feel better. You just feel better,

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Speaker 1: happier person. We were talking about ranchers we run into.

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Speaker 1: They're all just the happiest people you've ever man, And

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Speaker 1: in the city, and I have nothing against cities, They're fine.

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Speaker 1: But in this case, man, this is a happy place

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Speaker 1: definitely different than when you when you're go into town.

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Speaker 1: But like you said, we woke up this morning. We

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Speaker 1: had birds goblin off the roost. Oh yeah, right by

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Speaker 1: I think we should probably let everybody in on how

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Speaker 1: flew out of Austin, flight, got canceled out of Austin,

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Speaker 1: that's the fun part of this. Yeah, so we're huge

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Speaker 1: stuff storms coming. We get on, but they put us

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna go back and refuel and we'll see

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Speaker 1: if we can try it again. I thought, well, that

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Speaker 1: sounds safe. We'll get we'll try try. There's a storm

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Speaker 1: coming in, but we'll try again anyway, Thanks Feller. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: but what time I think you didn't even roll in?

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Speaker 1: And you can tell if somebody's got experienced turkey hanging

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Speaker 1: right away, right, you know, if if they get themselves

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the hunting your history Turkey talking about

422
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Speaker 1: me being passionate about getting people involved in the and

423
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Speaker 1: the hunting industry and the history of your health fitting business.

424
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: But going twenty six years and you've seen a lot

425
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: in the hunting industry, right, So if you say twenty

426
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: six years in the hunting issue doesn't sound like a

427
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 1: very long time. Well, I watched the scope for muzzleloaders

428
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: to you know, modern center fire. Yeah, and you watch

429
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 1: punt guns. We started with punt guns. No, I haven't

430
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: seen a lot of changes in the industry. Um, some

431
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: some good changes and some that you know that I

432
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: would say, maybe you know, weren't good to be perfectly honest.

433
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: So it is it's always fun, um watching you know,

434
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: watching the changes in the industry. UM, seeing the ebbs

435
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: and flows and what what's hot, what's not new products?

436
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: So there's so much innovation, Like it amazes me when

437
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: I think of the guys that climb Mount Everest, for example,

438
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: and you know, leather shoes, I'm like, really, well, you

439
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: know there's guys they can't complete it now with the

440
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 1: most updated footwear, you know, and there's been so many

441
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, just just like coolers, there's been so much

442
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 1: technology that the change in technology, you know, with what

443
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: you guys are doing, the clothing that we're wearing. You know,

444
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: the firearms, they know what it used to be you

445
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: had to reload if you wanted to get a really

446
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: accurate rifle. I don't feel like I have to reload

447
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: anymore because there's so many options and so many great

448
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: bullet manufacturers out there, you know what I mean. It's like,

449
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: holy cow. You know, I can find a hornery and

450
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: anything I need, you know what I mean. Just like

451
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, can you imagine thirty years ago? You know

452
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: what I mean, we use coolers If if you got

453
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: ice to stay most of the day, you were like, yes, man,

454
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta, I got a heck of a cooler.

455
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: So you know, some of the end vasition, no matter

456
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: what the you know, no matter what it was, you know,

457
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: has been amazing to me and fun to watch. Yeah,

458
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: when do you see like the you know, it's funny

459
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: with this like perspective is is hilarious. At some points,

460
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: do you think, like we go out, now, you shoot

461
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: most of shoot a recurve right exclusively shoot a recurve

462
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: at this point, No, I shoot it all still, you know,

463
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: to be you know, I grew up shooting muzzleloaders and

464
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: rifles and shotguns and bows, and but I did start

465
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Speaker 1: out with the compound. Early on. I went to a

466
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 1: recurb because I really enjoyed it. And I first went

467
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: to the recurve because I thought, man, I love the

468
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: challenge of a recurve. And once you get good with

469
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: the recurve, all of a sudden, I was like, man,

470
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Speaker 1: I think, really there's more of a challenge to shoot

471
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Speaker 1: a compound because I don't, you know, I don't need

472
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Speaker 1: all this stuff. I just draw back, I shoot. It's

473
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Speaker 1: more natural way to shoot. So but I do you know,

474
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Speaker 1: I still use the recurve the majority of the time,

475
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: use a compound hunting predators. I use a little bit

476
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Speaker 1: of everything. You know, air rifle, handgun, rifle, shotgun, you

477
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: name it, um, but I love it all. Yeah, yeah,

478
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: and and specific clean archery always because I think, you know,

479
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: modern rifles have evolved, but rifles have been around for

480
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: quite some time. Honting world, non Honting world, whatever. I mean,

481
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: there's hundreds of years of history there. Uh. With archery though,

482
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Speaker 1: Like I don't think folks in the modern archery world

483
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Speaker 1: understand how quickly things have evolved from a stick bow

484
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: from the old struggle stick to what they are now,

485
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: or from the first wheelbow. What years the first wheelbow

486
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Speaker 1: made in when they first came out with that in

487
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 1: early eighties, seventies, seventies, I mean that's how many years? Yeah,

488
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: and so and now look at what they've got. Yeah,

489
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: within like a fifty years span, we've gone from sticks

490
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Speaker 1: and strings and and sharp kN objects on the point

491
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Speaker 1: of a uh, aluminum arrow to carbon fiber and cams

492
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Speaker 1: systems and let off plus feet per second. I mean,

493
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Speaker 1: do you do you have any opinions on that? Just

494
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Speaker 1: the way that it's evolved, in the way that it's evolving,

495
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: and what you've seen or like to see or yeah,

496
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Speaker 1: you know, you know it's probably the same thing. I

497
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: think there's pluses and minuses to everything depending on where

498
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Speaker 1: you stand. Um you don't, don't get me wrong, you know,

499
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Speaker 1: I want to see everybody pick up a bow or

500
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: a shotgun or a rifle and enjoy the outdoor sports.

501
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, best thing for kids, young girls,

502
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: young boys. You need to get into, you know, and

503
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: see where meat comes from, because the fact is we

504
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: all impact wildlife. Everybody kills animals, even if you're a vegetarian,

505
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Speaker 1: because you know the land they're having to clear. I've

506
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: got to literally stop the truck here for these antelope.

507
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Speaker 1: We got some more an they gotta go under the fence,

508
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: under the fence. I lost some hide on that one.

509
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Speaker 1: I think it's evolutionist why they do that. It has

510
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Speaker 1: to be because they were out here for you know,

511
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: thousands of years without fences, so they always went around things.

512
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Speaker 1: But when the fences came, they started going under. I've

513
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Speaker 1: only seen two antelope jump fences my whole life, and

514
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be. Probably a deer or whites started jumping

515
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: mule deer or white tail deer and hop right over

516
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: that fast. I wasn't even there, but look at where

517
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: mule there and white tail live there. Used to coming

518
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: across down trees and you know what I mean, a

519
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: lot of things that they had to jump over. You know,

520
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: where's antelope. I'm in the prairie, jumping over something really

521
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: wasn't much of an issue ever. Yeah, imagine you can

522
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Speaker 1: see and I imagine you can see with the prong

523
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Speaker 1: or just like they're running across the road underfences, they've

524
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Speaker 1: got two hooks the bucks do on the on the

525
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: top of the head, and so they're like, well, how

526
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Speaker 1: am I gonna go. I'm gonna either try to jump

527
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Speaker 1: over this thing, which is I don't normally do, or

528
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use these hooks lifted up and go under.

529
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: Its common sense. I know we got off on a

530
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: tanger because I saw those antilope. But yeah, so, like

531
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Speaker 1: I said, I think there's pluses of minuses. I mean,

532
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: look at muzzleloaders for example. You know, just to pick

533
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Speaker 1: on an example, archeries changed a lot. I mean, you know,

534
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Speaker 1: I I shoot a traditional bow, but holy cow, do

535
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: I take care? Do I take advantage of the new

536
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 1: carbon fibers, you know what I mean? And and you know,

537
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: some of the new technology you know, in my holy recurve,

538
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: you're dang right, I do. You know what I mean?

539
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: I love it, you know what I mean, the you know,

540
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: the risers, there's all kinds of you know, the machines

541
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: that are doing cranking out some of these bows now,

542
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: even the custom boagers or using new products that are

543
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: making those bows faster, compounds, faster than they've ever been. Muzzleloaders.

544
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: I grew up shooting, you know, a percussion and flintlock muzzleloaders.

545
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: They didn't have an inline. They come out with inlines

546
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: now and these guys are shooting those three four hundred

547
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: yards as accurate as a center fire, rightful. So even

548
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: though I like the technology, at the same time, sometimes

549
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: I go, you know, I'm glad we have certain seasons

550
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: that are set up for more primitive, you know weapons

551
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: for those guys that choose to do that. It's all

552
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: about having that option and the right flintlock. There's's such

553
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: a big difference between the flintlock and an old you

554
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean, hammer percussion as opposed to an inline,

555
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: as opposed to a lombo recur as opposed to a compound.

556
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: You know, there's just big changes. Yeah, when we were

557
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: talking about the other day, like the you know, appreciating

558
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: the experience and all the things you're a man, hunted

559
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: reaker of all the time, you surely appreciate struggle like

560
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't do it without the struggle at some level.

561
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: Off like it was easy our turkey and was easy,

562
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: but it wasn't easy because we've locked that turkey in

563
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: a cage and let him out and then shot him.

564
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: It was easy because the circumstance allowed. We got lucky

565
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: he split off from the hens. And you don't you

566
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: say that though, But here's the thing, and I do

567
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: think you know, it was awesome and quick turkey on.

568
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: Had we been inexperienced turkey hunters, had either of us

569
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: moved too much like your buddy that didn't have gloves on,

570
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: and we hadn't had full camo, full face masks, had

571
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: you not been an experienced hunter that turned his head

572
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: super super slow to the left, you know that bird

573
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: would have caught us and taken off and maybe neither

574
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: of us would have even seen it. So the fact

575
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: that we were brushed in super good. You know, you

576
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. It's funny. I think there's some

577
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: little things. That is your gaining experience. More you get

578
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: more lucky. Let's put it that way. And I would

579
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: say there's a coyote hunter out of a Texas named

580
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: Wyman Menzer and him and I I mean he kills.

581
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: He has a book of kyote kills from vent and

582
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: it's probably three pages long, and he recorded every kyote

583
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: he ever killed. And that guy taught me all kinds

584
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: of stuff about where to sit and how to be,

585
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: and how to move and how to look. Sit in

586
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: the shade, don't ever sit in the sun. Point this direction,

587
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: move this way, move that way, just about hunting coyotes.

588
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: And then you apply that to every type of you know,

589
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: sit and shoot hunting scenario, and all of a sudden

590
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: you were able to do what we were able to

591
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: do exactly. But like you said, the harder you work,

592
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: and you know that old adage, the harder you work,

593
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: the luckier you get. Yeah, I think there's a lot

594
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: of truth to that's true. But now I think as

595
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: hunters we get addicted to and appreciate someone who is

596
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: willing to work harder to get accomplish what they came for. Right,

597
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: And like you have killed, have you killed all the

598
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: species in North America, Like, yeah, it was actually I

599
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: was actually the first one to take all um species,

600
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: so kind of cool. And it didn't matter if I

601
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: was first to the you know, two thousands. It was

602
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: a personal goal that I set upon myself. I wondered

603
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: if I was tough enough, uh to to harvest you know,

604
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: all twenty nine species, and uh boy, there were a

605
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: few times I would have told you I wasn't, you know,

606
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: doll sheep freezing freezing my butt off on the side

607
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: of a mountain, you know what I mean, trying to

608
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: hide in a little little snow I carved out to

609
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: keep the wind off. You know. There are a few

610
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: hunts that I went, huh, man, I guess I'm not.

611
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: But you know, I ended up working out and it

612
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: was such a cool thing for me to go, Yeah,

613
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: I was able to do that with a recurve, and

614
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: that's that's an accomplishment. You know. It's really cool. And

615
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: as you know, it's it's not necessarily about the animal

616
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: that you harvested. It's about the people, the places, you know,

617
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: And I love that. Like you showed me a picture

618
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: the other day and it was so cool because you

619
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: were actually talking about New Zealand. And here's something. Don't

620
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: get a big head now, but I noticed I noticed

621
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: little things like this. You didn't show me. Most people

622
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: would show a picture of a dead animal, and here's

623
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: something that I noticed. You didn't show me a picture

624
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: of the animal you shot. The first thing you showed

625
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: me was look at how beautiful it is. And your

626
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: picture had the mountains with a cloud in it, and

627
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: I was like, man, that's a cool hunting picture, because

628
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: bottom line is that's what it's really about. It's the

629
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: beauty being out there. Don't get me wrong, I love

630
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: eating while game as much as you do, and I

631
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: totally understand you're trying to get rid of the chicken

632
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: and get the turkey work to the dinner plane. But

633
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, that's that's sometimes the

634
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: way I can. You know, when you did that, I

635
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: was like, man, that's really cool. I can totally relate

636
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: to that, because that is as big a part of

637
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: the experience as harvesting in the animals. So I thought

638
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: that was need. It wasn't a hey man, look at

639
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: this animal I harvested. It was hey man, look at

640
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: how beautiful this area was. And that was the first

641
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: picture you showed me, and I'm like, because I was

642
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: trying to like, this is what we're talking about New

643
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: Zealand too, but it's I feel that and we were

644
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: I was actually talking to another guy there in camp

645
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: about Hawaii and he I occur occur. It occurs to

646
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: me now that you say that that I never showed

647
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: him a picture of a dead access to her. I

648
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: assumed you just fucking knew what that looked like. I didn't,

649
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: and and assumed I wouldn't lie to when I when

650
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: I told my shot one there, he doesn't really need

651
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: to see it. But that's to me, that's awesome. What

652
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: I can't describe is the mountain, right. I can't describe

653
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: that to you. If I said, hey, hey, you know

654
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: what here, let me describe this, you'd be like, yeah,

655
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: that sounds great, and then I should like, here's what

656
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: the picture looks like. Oh well, now way better than

657
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: way how he described it. There's no way to describe

658
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: that thing. But for the animal, I would assume most

659
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: people have seen some of that stuff. When you say

660
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: access to her, you instantly go okay um, and you

661
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: know I'm not immune to those things. But I think

662
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: that's just I've talked about it a lot in this podcast,

663
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: is about just evolving as a hunter. Like and I

664
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: think your example of what strikes me about you know,

665
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: what you have going on here in Colorado and just

666
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: the lifestyle that you live. What strikes me about it

667
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: is I was looking at like my generation, my generation's

668
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: version of the outdoor industry, and then the generation proceeding

669
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: or you know before me, what their version of the

670
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: outheroor industry was, and I feel like it's very different,

671
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: and they're kind of merged together now. You know, outdoor

672
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: TV and print magazines are kind of at some point

673
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: the only people that you would hear from about hunting

674
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: were either writing it into magazine at some point. And

675
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: then with the proliferation of DVDs and videos which you

676
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: were part of, and and further onto television and even

677
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: further on social media changed the game completely for everyone

678
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: because now everyone had a voice. And so like my

679
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: generation is used to everybody having a voice at some level,

680
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: or at least have gotten used to it. You know,

681
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: prior generations were used to like guys like yourself and

682
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: real experts, real people that put their lives directly in

683
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: the center point of outdoor lifestyle and said I'm gonna

684
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: live this and I'm gonna tell my story and try

685
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: to educate you along the way. And so I think

686
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: the perspective change is like now anybody like me or

687
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: anyone else can have a podcast or have a social

688
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: media thing and can speak their mind for good and

689
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: of course sometimes bad, anytimes bad. Um, what's that? What's

690
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: it like for you to have seen? You know? What

691
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: I would assume is a generational change, and I'd agree.

692
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, even when I was younger, I learned from

693
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: my dad, you know what I mean, My dad learned

694
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: from his dad. That's you know, that's how things were

695
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: passed down. And you know, my hunting ethics, Um, my

696
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: knowledge of the birds and the plants and the things

697
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: that I see came from my dad pushing that on me,

698
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: like you know, if you want to be. And it

699
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: wasn't so much even a hunter, you know, back then,

700
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: it was an outdoorsmen and that encompassed a wide range

701
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: of skills. It was how to properly build a fire.

702
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: It was knowing, you know, the trees around you, was

703
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: how to cut down a tree properly? You know, it

704
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: was how to you know, always pick up the trash,

705
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: always leave things like you found it. Um, you know

706
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: how to how to take care of the meat. You know.

707
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: It was a huge part of that generation. And I

708
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: think and handing that down and I think you bring

709
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: up a great point. It was it's interesting that I've

710
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: got to see that the change because now that social

711
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: media and TV and things like that. You know, unlike

712
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: some people, I never went out. My goal wasn't to go, man,

713
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on TV. Man, I'm gonna start a

714
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: TV show. So I think I'm a little different the

715
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: fact that you know, they came to me, you know,

716
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: Eastern and said, hey, we've hunted with you, We've been

717
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: out here at your ranch, and we would like you

718
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: to host our TV show. So I kind of came

719
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: into it totally differently than and I'm not faulting anybody,

720
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: more power to them, but some people have gone, man,

721
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: my goal is to be TV right, a TV hunter.

722
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: That was never my goal. I was tickle Pink and

723
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: still him being an outfitter and guy hunters for a living.

724
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: That's what started this and that's what I still do

725
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: every day. I mean, you know, the last week, you know,

726
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: I've know a guy to do. I got a guy, Chris,

727
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, God's an animal, which is

728
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: really cool. Craig Bodington. You know, I've had some really

729
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: great people from the industry and had a chance to

730
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: learn from him. But the crossover for me was now,

731
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: I meet so many people when I'm at events or

732
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: at shows or things like that that go, hey, man,

733
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you did this. I learned to skin

734
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: a coyote from watching you, Or I learned to to

735
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: hang a tree stand from watching you do it. Or

736
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: I learned how to care, which even more important to me.

737
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: Really if you if you are lucky enough to harvest

738
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: an animal, man, I learned how important it is to

739
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: peel the skin off an antelope quickly and get it

740
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: into cooler so it doesn't taste like crap, do you

741
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So you know, so that so

742
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: that experience is good from the beginning, from education, safety,

743
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, going out, maybe getting lucky enough to harvest

744
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: an animal, but all the way, you know, that whole

745
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: field to table movement, to me is is really a

746
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: very It's a it's a great movement because it really is.

747
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: It's an experience from going out the field hunting all

748
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: the way to eating that meal and having a good

749
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: experience all the way through. You know, if at the

750
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: end of that you put it in your mouth and

751
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, that tastes like crap. My dog

752
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: won't eat it, it stinks on the plate, it's stunk

753
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: up the house when I cooked it, Well, then that's

754
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: a bad experience. But it's been interesting to me because

755
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: I think, sadly, a lot of people and I say

756
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: that because we're getting farther and farther removed from farm

757
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: ranch communities. A lot of people, a lot of kids,

758
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, not because they didn't weren't interested in hunting,

759
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: but their parents just weren't a position where they could

760
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: take them hunting. You know, you've been to my house.

761
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: I can step out the backyard and shooting elk, shoot

762
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: a turkey. You know, our boys shoot there twenty twos.

763
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: You know we've got to We've got a range twenty

764
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: yards from my front door. Ye, your kids are certified bad. Yeah,

765
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: we got to shoot trap. Yes, well, we had a

766
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: couple of lucky shots. But I mean, Trent all the

767
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: boys love to shoot, and Trent is how old is

768
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: he just turned thirteen. He could shoot Kenny. I don't

769
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: think he missed know it with a four ten, I'm

770
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: rocking a twelve gage. I think I missed a couple

771
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: of times. He's dangerous, He's dangers But so, you know,

772
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: my point was, there's a lot of people that were

773
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: never introduced to it, like you were by your father,

774
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: like I was by my father. So because social media

775
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: and TV has become so huge, I think this is

776
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: the way a lot of people are getting their information

777
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: and and interestingly enough, and that's why I think it

778
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 1: is so important for people to to act a certain

779
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: way or respect the animals and respect the meat. All

780
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: the way through. Some people are learning not only how

781
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: to hunt or how to handle firearms, whether it's safely

782
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: or unsafely, sadly, but also to a degree they're hunting

783
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: ethics by people they're watching. We emulate very complex and

784
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: and exactly, you know, and there's all kinds of decisions

785
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: in the field that you make every day. But it's

786
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me, and I really try and stay cognizant.

787
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? It was my big word the

788
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: day got a calendar? Yeah? I got that. The source

789
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: here in the truck. Yeah. See, there you go. There's

790
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: you have the source. Most guys have just google it, right,

791
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: So I'm still the source. But I tried to be appreciated. Bro,

792
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. But I do I try to

793
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: try to be super aware of what I'm saying, what

794
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm showing, um, you know, because you know, I realized

795
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: that there may be a young person their whole introduction

796
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: to hunting or the outdoors maybe what they see me doing.

797
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: So I try and be very cognizant of that. So

798
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: that's I'm glad you brought that up because what I've seen. Um,

799
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: I've had this podcast for this the episode number twelve. UM,

800
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: so not long, three or four months. But during that time,

801
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: there was a report released one that the hunting license

802
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: sales went down from twenty I think in eleven sixteen,

803
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: from fourteen million to eleven million. Not good. The funding

804
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: was a business would be stock befallen um. And at

805
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: the same time, you look at the demographics in that

806
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: eleven million excuse to and older. I think it's I

807
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: can't remember the percentage those folks are sixty five and older.

808
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: And that's gonna leave a gap, a giant gap. When

809
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: that fifty five and older generation goes away and is

810
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: no longer able to hunt. There's gonna be a giant

811
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: gap for some a couple of decades where that eleven

812
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: million is gonna go way down. And what's been happening,

813
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: Thank the Lord, this has been happening, at least for

814
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: for hunting sake and for our sake, is that a

815
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: lot of people have been listening to things like this

816
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: or watching your shows, like you said, picking up on

817
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: not only that hunting is cool and fulfilling and makes

818
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: your life better, healthy, healthy eating. Right, they're beginning excited

819
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: about that point, but then also learning from the people

820
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: that they see what it means to do it, what

821
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: the stewardship and responsibility really is, and that I firmly

822
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: believe that there's a new generation of hunters right now

823
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 1: that are that are doing it for the first time

824
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: that we're not taught by their fathers, Yes, sir, And

825
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: so what's that allow us? That allows us a whole

826
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: new generation of people that we can retrain or train

827
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: again just like our fathers told us, or we can

828
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: retrain them on a new way or a generationally appropriate

829
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: way of hunting, and they can then they can then

830
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: pass that down to their children. So in some ways

831
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: we've shifted the center point of hunting from only the

832
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: father to son or father to daughter or mother to

833
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: you know, the patrimonial peace shift that two, here's a

834
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: new generation of people. That guy's got a yetty juggle

835
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: on his old Darryl. Darryl's shout out to Darryl Um. Anyway,

836
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 1: I think that it's more generationally appropriate hunter, not only

837
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: for the people that are just now going hunting for

838
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: the first time because they heard you, or they heard

839
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: Steve Ronnella, or they heard saw Lee or Tiffany, or

840
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: they saw Remy Warren or whoever, or heard Joe Rogan's podcast,

841
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: they're now just class and we got we're talking about

842
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: that that we're coming town. We're covering that I did

843
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: not know that. I'm very upset that I didn't know that.

844
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: I felt very badly about that. Anyway, generationally, I think

845
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: we'll have a group of hunters that are now going

846
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: to change a little bit of the way it's done,

847
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: and we'll still have the father to son Bob passed

848
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: down to my son what I know, but we'll be

849
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: able to kind of reshape it a little bit, which

850
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: all the more important for what you do and to

851
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: be saying what you're saying, like ethics matter, the moralities matter,

852
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: the way you approach it matters. That's huge because there's

853
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: people listening to this. I've got emails from I could

854
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: read thirty of them to you right now. I said,

855
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: I listen to your podcast. I'm gonna start hunting for

856
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: the first time. I appreciate your approach and here I

857
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: go off to the races in this awesome, ridiculously complicated thing.

858
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: So it's right, man, And I think there really is.

859
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: I think, you know, twenty years from now, they'll look

860
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: back on this period of time is like the time

861
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: where the demographic tonics began to change for the better,

862
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: um in a good way because of social media. That's

863
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: what I think. I like it. Maybe I'm wrong. Let's

864
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: talk about just glass in for a second before I

865
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: forget to talk about it. Because we were driving in

866
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: the same road we're driving on right now, back to

867
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: your lodge on this East ranch, and I brought up

868
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan's podcast. Actually, you brought up what a good

869
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: guy Joe Rogan was. I said, that's really cool because

870
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: I've never I've you know, I've never personally met Joe Rogan.

871
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Um and and my comment was, man, he's funny, seems

872
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: like a really nice guy. And you actually threw a

873
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: shout out and said, Manfred, he's a really good everything.

874
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: You need stories of things he's done that no one

875
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: would know about that. I don't really need to retell,

876
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: but like just reasons he's good things he's done, awesome

877
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: human being. Um And you said, oh, yeah, I know

878
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: all about that because of that just glass in business,

879
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: he played a video of me when you're hunting here. Yeah,

880
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: I got all these calls all of a sudden, and

881
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: that tells you, you know, Joe Rogan's following. But you know,

882
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of guys you know, contact me

883
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: and they're like, man, Joe Rogan's podcast. I'm like what

884
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: they're like. Honestly, you gotta check it out. It's so awesome.

885
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: They use actually a clip of your mouse and you

886
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: know you were doing your normal. You know, I grew

887
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: up hunting public lands, so why don't you do anything?

888
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: I get pretty jacked and it's embarrassing sometimes when you

889
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: watch yourself on video. You ever watched stuff a video

890
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: and gone, man, I thought I sounded so much better

891
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: every time. Oh yeah, man, I'm loud. I didn't realize

892
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: my nose was that giant, and my eyes I look like,

893
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: you know, I look like you know, I gotta get yeah, yeah, yeah,

894
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: I look a little weird. I didn't realize my eyes

895
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: were so close together. I probably gotta get special made binocular.

896
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: So it's you know, it's funny the things that you

897
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to watch yourself. But they were like, you

898
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: gotta check it out. You're on there with a with

899
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: a moose and and one of the guys that's gotta

900
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: the hashtag just classing and wearing a you know, we're

901
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: in a just classic shirt and it's because of something

902
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: you said. So we don't want to ruin before you

903
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: just go check it out. So literally multiple people, and

904
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm like what, So I go on there and I

905
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: got so geeked up that we were and I said, man,

906
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: I was I just shut the spoose. I was like, man,

907
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: I just popped out of know where I was. I

908
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: was just classing. I mean, I was just glassing and

909
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: and and and here's the booze and they picked up

910
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: on that and ran with it, and and and it

911
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: was pretty funny. It started a hole, it started a

912
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: whole movement um on you know, just glassing with Joe Rogan,

913
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: So it was really it's a full on hashtag. Yeah,

914
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,479
Speaker 1: I hashtag this ship out of just way. I gotta

915
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: hashtag that more. You got to get some royalties out

916
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: of this, you know what the heck? Just glass and

917
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: It's something that a lot of people say. I you know,

918
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: and I don't want to swear to it, but I'm

919
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: pretty sure that Joe Rogan started it. But he started

920
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: it with my video of Mesa and just glassing. So

921
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: you know what follow up? Would you do me a

922
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: favorite follow up? We follow up because you may go, Fred,

923
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: youre totally full of it and she always just playing

924
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: YouTube video. Just Glass and Thing came from somebody else.

925
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, I'm pretty sure. I don't know

926
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: if you can get like some protection for that. I

927
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: need to talk to It's great. I mean, you know, Joe, Hey,

928
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: you know I need to be hooked up with this

929
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: just Glass and Thing. Yeah, I need to be the

930
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: spokesperson for just I love it. I'm just a glass

931
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: and full Yeah, I just want people to know. Now

932
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: I'll be able to promote this podcast based on the

933
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: fact that could be like the origin story you got gas,

934
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: you gotta read it. And I loved hearing that Joe's

935
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: a good guy. That's really cool, I think fantastic, you know.

936
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: And and some of the stories you said, and I

937
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: won't repeat them, but just you know, you we were

938
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: talking about this the other day. You can sometimes tell

939
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: if somebody's a really truly good person if they do

940
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: something kind, good, whatever it is, and they don't seek

941
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: recognition for it, they do it behind the scenes. And

942
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: some of the stories that you actually told, and I

943
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: know you wouldn't expecting me to bring this up, but

944
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: some of the stories you told about about Joe and

945
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: doing things behind the scenes really made me go, that's awesome,

946
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: really really cool, really cool. So it's nice to hear.

947
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many great people in this industry,

948
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: and for me, it's nice to know that Joe is

949
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: not just, you know what I mean, an outdoor communicator,

950
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: but that he's a good guy to know and powerful

951
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: for our for our world and our people and what

952
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: we do for sure, And like you said, I mean,

953
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: it goes back to just the people that you're with them.

954
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: You come down here, and you have people from all

955
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: over the country that come to sleep in the same

956
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: building as you and follow you around the woods and

957
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 1: and do a pretty complex emotionally. You know, you're pretty

958
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: famous for you Well, I always call myself just that

959
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: lucky redneck kiss to do what he loves to do, right,

960
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: So it's you know, I've been really fortunate to be

961
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: able to do what I absolutely love to do. And

962
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: my wife commonly says, she goes, you know, we don't

963
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: have an easy life, but we have a blessed life

964
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: because we you know, you know, she works, she works hard,

965
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: and so do I, but we love You wouldn't want

966
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: it to be where's she going? And she comes, she's

967
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: right here about maybe checking on the calves right now.

968
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: So we had a we had a cow that had

969
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: twins and uh, you know, it's pulling the mom down

970
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. So we've been kind of helping them

971
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: checking them out. Yeah, are we gonna go right around

972
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: some more? Yeah, I'm gonna go show you the top

973
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: of this ridge. So are you go? Do you want

974
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: to go with us? I don't know. Let me let

975
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: me let me check with the ball. The view from

976
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: up there is Yeah, that's what I want to say. Yeah,

977
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: you need it, You're we need to take a picture

978
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: of you up there. Yeah, and we can post it

979
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: up so with people who can see that I'm not

980
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: just we've taken Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I'm doing a

981
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: podcast right now. We're still we're still rocking this thing.

982
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: Ben's got it down. You want to hop in the truck,

983
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: you want to go for the ride, bring it all right?

984
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: We got the better looking and the the boss. The

985
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: boss is in the truck now the boss, Yeah that way. Well. Well,

986
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't know Michelle's history, you know,

987
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: and it's so cool because Michelle's dad actually started um

988
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: muzzy broadheads. Yeah, and a lot of my buddies, Um,

989
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: when we first got married, they're like, oh, you married

990
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: or just so you can get for broadheads. So I

991
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: brought that up. We were at a function one time

992
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: and be my wife for teasing each other and I said, well,

993
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: I said, I just married you so I could get

994
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: free broadheads. And my wife without missing a beat, she

995
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: looks at me and she goes, well, that's okay, because

996
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: I just married you so I could go on free hunts.

997
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: And I went Wait a minute, let me think about this.

998
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: I maybe go through five dollars in free broadheads a year,

999
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: but I promise you my wife goes through about eighty

1000
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 1: thousand and guided elk, mule, deer, white tailed deer, mountain lion,

1001
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: turkey bear. You see what I'm saying. So she kind

1002
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: of went out on that deal, right, Yeah, she definitely

1003
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: went out. I know, we gotta open this gate. I'll

1004
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: get it. She's got it. No, she's good, We got it. Yeah,

1005
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: you guys can podcast together. I tell her sometimes, Hey,

1006
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: I really want to take you off for a ride,

1007
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: and it's just because I want to go check cows

1008
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get out and get the gate.

1009
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: So it's beautiful, I'll drive and that's the gates. She's

1010
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: I mean, she's tough. Now. She helps when it's branding,

1011
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what we're doing. The garden she grows

1012
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: is ridiculously huge, and she cans hundreds and hundreds of courts. Well,

1013
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: you've had her, you've had her jelly grown. She grows

1014
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: the grapes, then she makes jelly out of the grapes

1015
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: she grew. She has nine bee hives. We get a

1016
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: ton of honey. Every year we eat almost everything we

1017
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: eat we either harvested or she grew, because she literally

1018
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: is like a pioneer woman. I joke around all the time,

1019
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: but I'm like, she could have been born a hundred

1020
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: years ago and she would have been just fine. Yeah,

1021
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: I was. I was there today. I saw and that's

1022
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: why when we're talking and this might be uh coashers

1023
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: say or not, but I was there today and I

1024
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: was like, man, you know, I've followed Fred for you know,

1025
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: a lot of my life and watched what he did.

1026
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: But then recently, you know, I've been following Michelle Moore

1027
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: because I'm more thanks, I'm as interested and more interested

1028
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: and beekeeping and gardening because hunting I've done, like I'm

1029
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: not crested and I'm not the best at it, but

1030
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: I've done. It's like just a craft that I do.

1031
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: And as far as like how to grow, I want

1032
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: to grow in other ways. So I'm like, here's a

1033
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: person that's gardening, so bread, I'm gonna watch Michelle. Watch.

1034
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: I've been watching Michelle like no offense, no, And you

1035
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: know what's cool, she really does enjoy the hack how

1036
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: to teaching people to can how to go how do

1037
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: you know how to do the bees? She prime example,

1038
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: we we she literally she said, go out and get

1039
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: some fresh milk. She goes, uh, milk on the cows

1040
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: for me. So I ran it in the shoot and

1041
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: we're milking it. She goes, because I want to make

1042
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: farmers cheese. And I'm like, what do what like? When

1043
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: I think cheese, I think Kolby or Swiss, you know

1044
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm like, she sticks pepperjack, right, sandwich whatever.

1045
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: So she she's like, oh, milky, look at all the

1046
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 1: geese out there. Sucks kind of cool. All kinds of ducks, buffs,

1047
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: buff buffalo head. Nice. We got some mud ducks or

1048
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: as I call them, you know, I call mud ducks

1049
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: but coots gallennules. But she literally makes cheese out of

1050
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: this fresh cow milk and it was delicious, unreal. Yeah,

1051
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: she's just got all these kills and she learned that

1052
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: from her mother. You know. I'm like, that's really cool.

1053
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: Let's generationally handled down. But how many women today do

1054
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: you think it would be like if you won, if

1055
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: you handed you know, if you said, hey, go out

1056
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: and milk the cow, you know, and handed him, handed

1057
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: him up a jug of fresh warm cow milk. Would

1058
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: they know? Oh jeez, I'm gonna whip out something cheese here.

1059
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: We should Yeah, I mean not just women men stuff. No, No,

1060
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: I could definitely tell you how to like has set

1061
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: your spam filter on your outlook for your email? I

1062
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: could sure a ship. I wouldn't have what doing a cow?

1063
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: There's no wool, but yeah, there's just just reminds me

1064
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: that there's a bunch of Canadian geese, you know, flying

1065
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: off the pong here. We're driving by and Michelle has

1066
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: what do we call corned goose? Corn goose? Michelle made

1067
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: corn goose, and I think I ate a a pound

1068
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: of it. I hate it. I hate, traditionally hate eating

1069
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: Canada geese. You do because you you don't want to

1070
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: shoot it and not eat it. Yeah, I don't hunt them.

1071
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: Never been your favorite. And I don't like eating him

1072
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: because I've never had it that good. If I now

1073
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: that I know when I see him now I see, like,

1074
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of slices of brined breast flying

1075
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: through the air. I don't even shoot him flying anymore

1076
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: because I want to make sure I get them. Yeah. Yeah,

1077
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: if one swims into the decoys, I'm like there's some

1078
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: bride goose right there. I think I m I got

1079
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: a pretty high percentage when there's done that. You know,

1080
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: I've done that on other animals too. Like we're in

1081
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: Africa and it was a games buck running around, orcs

1082
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: running around. They made these like curry meatballs out of

1083
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: these orcs, and I was like, there goes a herd

1084
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: of meatballs, full on herd of meatballs, and that that

1085
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: is ladies. And now like we're so we're driving to

1086
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: the east side of another You guys have a couple

1087
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: of ranches properties, and so we're now on the east side.

1088
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: We've driven all the way across from the Spanish peaks

1089
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: where you live to your outfitting area where you farm cattle,

1090
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: run cattle. And it's ridiculous the different type of terrain

1091
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: and ecosystems that are here. Like we're fully in sage

1092
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: flat country, sagebrush country, and there's and our brand on

1093
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: those calves is f DO. But we thought it might

1094
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: be cool to just make get another oh, so we

1095
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: could make it food food, so we could brandon with

1096
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: food because we we got three. You right, I'm just

1097
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: gonna get an OH, and I'm gonna stamp one food,

1098
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: you would go viral. You would go viral. Yeah, you

1099
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: know what we could do it? Yeah. See, now there's

1100
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: my wife making sense. I think we have to get

1101
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: a whole another brand with another Oh, she go, you

1102
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: could just use the oh twice, use the Yeah, there's

1103
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: the logic in the back. Nice smart bl I'm glad

1104
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: she said it. Anyway, I just remark it like the ridiculous.

1105
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: We're running in like ponderous of pine country, rolling hills,

1106
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 1: snow covered peaks, you know, half an hour that way,

1107
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: and here we are in like grass, sage flats, river bottoms,

1108
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: and there's elk here and elk there too. And where

1109
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: do you do post pictures anywhere? Because you could post

1110
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: some picture people are listening to this. You could probably

1111
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: post a picture of you just so you can see

1112
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: the difference in the areas. Yeah, it's it's I will post. Yeah.

1113
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: We would do like an art cool page on each

1114
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: one of these podcasts. You will be able to go

1115
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: to the website and see some of what we're talking

1116
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: about here. But it's just like you were saying, a

1117
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: unique area in the world, Southern Colorado. It's not cold

1118
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: all the time. It's not like northern Colorado where they're

1119
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: snow in the ground all the time. Um, and we're

1120
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: on the edge of three totally different echoses. Yeah, I mean,

1121
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: you're just there's another good one. Myriad I'm trying to

1122
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: use was the last one music? Remember, like I don't contiguous.

1123
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm sure it wasn't over three syllables. Well you're

1124
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: getting I mean there are three or four in there.

1125
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: This for an hour, um yeah, and then I just

1126
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: it just remarks to me that that this type of

1127
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: country is diverse, and the biodiversity of the animals and

1128
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: the and everything plants that are here shows it's crazy

1129
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: and it's awesome. It's cool. I'd move here if I could.

1130
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: We were talking about that. I'm gonna tell my if

1131
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: my wife is listening, that's a cool it's a cool

1132
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: part of Colorado. I mean, you know, everybody loves, you

1133
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean, the states that they live in,

1134
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: and you know, we think Colorado is one of our

1135
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: favorites just because especially down here in southern Colorado, you

1136
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of the crowds, you a lot

1137
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: of people. You know, there's still really good deals on

1138
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, and property as opposed to the rest of

1139
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: the state. Um, but it's uh, it's unique. It's still

1140
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: you still have that really small town feel for sure.

1141
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: How many people live. What's the closest town to where

1142
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: we are right now? Um, Trinidad, Trinidad, and that's where

1143
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: we live. We're about a little over thirty minutes to

1144
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: the closest gas station. What was that little town we

1145
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: drove with the high school though, Yeah, the little town

1146
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: of Hony. Many people live in Hony. I don't know, No,

1147
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a few more, well, probably not a lot.

1148
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: But they've got a they've got a high school. There's

1149
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 1: not a there's not a seven eleven or a gas

1150
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: station there. No, you know, there was a store. You

1151
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: gotta go to Trinidad. But yeah, great high school. Cool,

1152
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: cool little town. Um. And it's basically a farm ranch community.

1153
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: Ye man. Yeah, it goes back to you noticed that

1154
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my wife now sitting in the back seat.

1155
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: Now we're dropped by Darryl, or neighbor, and of course

1156
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: Ben picks out boom. He's like, hey, he's gotta he's

1157
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: gotta yetti on that, you know, on his quality for him,

1158
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: and he mounted it on his He mounted a Vietti

1159
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: jug on his quad there. Yeah, he would, he would.

1160
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: That's a legit move. He's really out there and doing it.

1161
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: I could probably get some street cred if you like

1162
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: swung By and I was like, hey, this is yeah,

1163
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, here's a little discount card or something. You

1164
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: probably he would, he would dig that. I'll give Yeah,

1165
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: let's do that. It's done, easy, do that. We'll set

1166
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: him up. I'll put him right in nice um. But yeah,

1167
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean this country is crazy. The difference between this

1168
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: and and there's not a lot of places that we

1169
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: were talking about New Zealand. That's one of the places

1170
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: that is so diverse that you could not I couldn't

1171
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: hardly understand. But this is for for the States. I mean,

1172
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: this is pretty strikingly diverse country, which is why people

1173
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: come to full draw outfitters and hunt about six different species.

1174
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: Oh other gates. I built this h brace this last summer.

1175
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: It's still holding. So that's good. So you're I wanted

1176
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: to One of the thing that struck me is your son, Trent.

1177
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: So I think we should talk about Trent for a

1178
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: while because Trent is awesome, thank you, He's just awesome.

1179
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: One of the things that struck we're talking about the

1180
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: people out here in the way that you're like, I've

1181
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: met a lot of kids that are thirteen and not

1182
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: all of them shake your hand firmly and looking in

1183
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: the eye, And that struck me about Trent, Like, this

1184
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: is a good kid. I appreciate. There's not a little

1185
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: punk on the earth that that would shake your hand looking. Yeah,

1186
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: like Trent, dude. Oh, I'm looking at her struggling with

1187
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: that gay. That's a really tight one. She's got her

1188
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: shoulder tone into. We need to get out there and

1189
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, let's go out you got it? Oh yeah,

1190
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: all right, pretty awesome. Ben's going out there to help

1191
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: my wife. I I built this h brace over one

1192
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: of our corners, and I kind of strung it pretty tight,

1193
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: because they always seem to loosen up quite a bit.

1194
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: But this one's still still pretty tight. She's got it

1195
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: with Ben's out open the pickle jar and hand it

1196
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: to somebody, and then they just twisted the rest of

1197
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: the way similar to that. Yeah, and you always you

1198
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: always say that I loosened it up for you. Yeah,

1199
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: that's standard. Happy to loosen that up, happy to do it.

1200
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: So you can see this big ridge up here. We're

1201
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: actually gonna drive on top of that and we'll be

1202
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: able to see over a lot of country here which

1203
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: is just beautiful. That it's just a beautifultry and we've

1204
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: got white tail, mule deer, an loope, elk, bear, and

1205
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: turkey out here. But I think a lot of it

1206
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: because you know, and yeah, some great waters, some cockbirds.

1207
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: You saw some pheasants the other way. You said, blue quail, yes,

1208
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: scale quail, yes, scale here. Yeah. Yeah, So it's kind

1209
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: of unique for the bird hunting because we've we've actually

1210
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: shot ducks, geese, pheasant, and scale quail all within like

1211
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: a two radiation. What I mean, what do you contribute

1212
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: to that? You know much about the history of this

1213
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,959
Speaker 1: land that you know, they're a confluence of a bunch

1214
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: of there's been peasants along this or for a long time. Um.

1215
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: The birds are just not a lot of water here. Um,

1216
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: so the birds are attracted to any water, you know

1217
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, on the edge of kind of a

1218
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 1: couple of flyaways, so they see water, they're gonna drop

1219
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: in there. But there's a lot of agg in this country.

1220
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of these guys um growing

1221
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: corn I mean we grow a foul from mostly that's

1222
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: the main crop that we grow to sell, but uh,

1223
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: and we use it for our cows and our horses

1224
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: as well. But there's just a ton of agg in

1225
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: this area. So it attracts everything. You know, if you've

1226
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: got the food, odds are you're gonna have the animals? Yeah,

1227
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: you have the animals. You have the animals. It's crazy,

1228
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: it's crazy in this country. I mean, I can't again,

1229
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: I won't be able to scrab. It will take some

1230
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: pictures for everybody to see, but it's it's fantastic. Hey,

1231
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: you've definitely we've definitely changed from what we were in

1232
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: this morning to where we're at right now. It's are it?

1233
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: And we've dropped about yeah, and we dropped about two

1234
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: thousand feet in elevation, and what do you say that

1235
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: I live at seven thousand feet? The Spanish peaks that

1236
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: are out in front of you know, in front of

1237
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: my place are thirteen thousand and a little over thirteen thousand,

1238
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: and then out here, I think we're about five thousand,

1239
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: aren't we about out here? So totally different. Well, I

1240
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: figured to close this particular show out. I'm gonna let Michelle,

1241
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: ask you a few questions. I want to give her

1242
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: the headphones, let her close the show out. Oh boy,

1243
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: my wife's canna interview me, interview my husband. I want

1244
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: to know all the things about you that you haven't

1245
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: told me. Oh, honey, you know, you know everything, you

1246
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,959
Speaker 1: know why, you know why. There's a lot of women

1247
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: archaeologists right. Oh, don't even go there swimming love digging

1248
01:02:54,640 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: up old stuff. It's there and uh, no offense any

1249
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: archaeologists out there. Yeah. Yeah, the views up here are

1250
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. That we were actually on the other side

1251
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: the other day when that you can see where the

1252
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: fire was. Um, I think it burned five thousand acres

1253
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: on the neighbor's ranch over there. But um, we absolutely

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Speaker 1: love living out here and UM just feel so blessed

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Speaker 1: be able to do what we do. And um, you

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Speaker 1: know the whole thing, the farming, the ranching. Um, like

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Speaker 1: Fred said, I love gardening. I love getting my hands

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Speaker 1: in the dirt. Much rather be out there than in

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Speaker 1: an office. And uh, just a great place. Um as

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Speaker 1: a mom and a wife to raise our our three

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Speaker 1: boys out here. Um, just with a total connection to

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Speaker 1: the land. So they've got to see it. See it

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Speaker 1: from every perspective, from you know, raising cows, harvesting your

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Speaker 1: own meat, harvesting vegetables and uh and working so uh

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Speaker 1: give him a good work ethic and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: raise some good America And so I pretty excited about that. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Yeah, thanks Ben for coming out

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Speaker 1: and hanging out with us. It was awesome. I'm curious

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Speaker 1: in a hunt and said, you know, you can give

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Speaker 1: them your your skinny. So check us out on Fulder

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Speaker 1: Outfitters dot com. You can email us or call us.

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Speaker 1: And we've got a fan page on Red Eichler fan

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Speaker 1: page on Facebook, also Instagram and Twitter. Um, and then

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Speaker 1: check out, of course all of our YouTube clips we've got.

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Speaker 1: We'll be putting up some recipes, some awesome recipes, wild

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Speaker 1: game recipes, and have a bunch of skinning tips and um,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun hunting clips. So check out the

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Speaker 1: j Glass and see if I was totally full of

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Speaker 1: it or not, see if I started that trend. So

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Speaker 1: you gonna have to check with Ben on glass and Babe,

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Speaker 1: was you all right out? That's it? Yeah, it's over,

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Speaker 1: episode number twelve in the books. Thank you, Fred Eichler,

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Speaker 1: Michelle I Clare the Eichler family for hosting me in Colorado.

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Speaker 1: It was a great time, UM, A weekend cut short,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately by events involving YETTI and the n r A. UM.

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Speaker 1: A lot of folks that are listening to this probably

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Speaker 1: heard about the controversy involving the company I work for,

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Speaker 1: YETI and the National Rights Association. Uh, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of things said over the last few days about yet

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Speaker 1: He's a company. But I think the bottom line is

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Speaker 1: the people that Yetie, You're good people that YETI believe

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Speaker 1: in hunting, they believe in the Second Amendment, they believe

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Speaker 1: in all the right things, and they support conservation not

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Speaker 1: only in theory but in actuality with dollars and time.

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Speaker 1: And I can tell you from having been there for

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Speaker 1: the company that I believe deserves your business and the

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Speaker 1: consideration of of conservation and all the work that they do.

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Speaker 1: So I won't say much more to you get into

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Speaker 1: the weeds of it. It's not really worth it. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: we can past the controversy with the n r A,

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Speaker 1: and I hope we can get onto bigger and better things,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully by episode number thirteen, we won't remember this

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Speaker 1: little bump in the road that is, this little controversy.

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Speaker 1: So in the meantime, head over and Hunting Collective dot

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Speaker 1: com for all the past podcasts, articles and videos relating

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Speaker 1: to the past podcasts, and everything you want to hear

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Speaker 1: from the Hunting Collective. Will be back next week with

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Speaker 1: another awesome guests were headed to Lanai, Hawaii with Joe Rogan,

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Speaker 1: Cam Haynes, Adam Green Tree Orhevery Orange, Shane Dorian, John Dudley,

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Speaker 1: and more. So hopefully we'll check back in with one

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Speaker 1: of those folks, or all of them, or just me

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Speaker 1: who knows. We'll see how it plays out, but will

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Speaker 1: be in Hawaii. See you next time. Bye bye the

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Speaker 1: wo