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Speaker 1: is up? Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire

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Speaker 1: for Monday, March fourth. We are getting closer and closer

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Speaker 1: to March Madness. One week left in the regular season

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Speaker 1: and then conference tournaments fire up. Oh you know, I

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Speaker 1: love March, except this March is going to be difficult.

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Speaker 1: Got some stuff, some non work stuff that's clogging the calendar.

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Speaker 1: You got obviously the kids use sports that everybody wants

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Speaker 1: to hear about, a lot of stuff happening. This was

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Speaker 1: a busy weekend. Shall we say, They're only gonna get

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Speaker 1: busier here in this month. Starting the podcast with some

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Speaker 1: crap news. I'm sure you guys saw this on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Chris Morton's in a long time ESPN reporter talking head.

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Speaker 1: He passed away at seventy two. I know he had

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Speaker 1: some health problems the last like five or six years,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, he was just a titan in the industry.

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Speaker 1: I talked to him at the Combine a couple times.

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Speaker 1: He was the nicest guy. Back when I had the

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Speaker 1: big lead way way way back. I would reach out

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Speaker 1: I see him at the combine, talk to him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's just like an oracle of information. And again, who

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Speaker 1: And I mean, he's just a great, great guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you've seen all the tributes to him. And this

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Speaker 1: is crappy because this is two straight Mondays where there's

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Speaker 1: been like not great NFL news. I'm sure you used

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Speaker 1: to remember last week Peter King announced he was retiring.

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Speaker 1: Now it's unclear exactly what the retirement is gonna entail,

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Speaker 1: is probably toast. I don't know, maybe when the football

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Speaker 1: season comes up, he'll do like a once a week thing.

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Speaker 1: But you know, this is just again, these are end

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Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. You know, they were

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Speaker 1: It's a weird time in media. And this is one

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Speaker 1: go to NBA. Obviously we got to talk about Lebron

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Speaker 1: hitting forty k But you know the combine. I've told

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Robi. I can't get too excited about

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Speaker 2: Yeah me either. And you touched on it because I'm

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Speaker 2: Just a few names them. A rattled through going back

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Speaker 2: over the years as a Raiders fan. Okay, Stanford Route,

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Speaker 2: and YadA, YadA YadA. But being a great athlete does

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Speaker 2: not equate to being a great football player. And if

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Speaker 2: I can promise you your team probably sucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just one data point and you can get all excited. Hey,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know Combine was interesting. I will say

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Speaker 1: I didn't offer them. Listen, nobody wants to sit out, Rob,

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Speaker 1: five against four some people will be like, Jay, what

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Speaker 1: are you not caring? So we throw on the full

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Speaker 1: court press. We storm back. They missed a couple free throws.

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Speaker 1: No, No, that I mean that that was basically it,

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Speaker 1: as exciting as Lebron hitting forty thousand points on Saturday

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Speaker 1: Here's another stat from the AMIC thing. Now, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: He's gonna do it a twelve times something nine players

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Speaker 2: What was he doing with the Wizards? He had a

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Speaker 1: they were the conference finals. This is after eighty two games.

427
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Speaker 1: He didn't play all eighty two. But you know, Lebron

428
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Speaker 1: at thirty eight had forty ten and nine against a

429
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Speaker 1: Nuggets forty ten to nine. Like, why doesn't longevity matter more?

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Speaker 2: That's a very good question.

431
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: It seemed to matter more when Kareem Abdul Jabbard was

432
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: sticking around in the eighties and stacking titles with Magic

433
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Speaker 1: and Worthy, and you know he was capable in the finals.

434
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Speaker 1: But longevity should certainly matter.

435
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Speaker 2: I think I have an answer for that. I think

436
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Speaker 2: I know why this is not as big of a

437
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 2: deal in the grand scheme of things for Lebron James,

438
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: not just for me, but just in general. Even the

439
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: people who might glean more towards you is because you

440
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: alluded to it. Every time he breaks a record now

441
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 2: or makes some kind of milestone, it happens to be

442
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: a loss. The Lebron Lakers era has been a roller coaster,

443
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 2: to say the least. It's got that fantastic twenty nineteen

444
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty season they win the Bubble Championship. Last

445
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 2: season's run of the Western Conference Finals are pretty cool.

446
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: Other than that, it's been a lot of mediocrity. Okay,

447
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: you touched on it. They've lost now, what is it,

448
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: eight straight to the Nuggets. Okay, the forty point nine

449
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: rebound whatever game in the game four was a sweep,

450
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 2: and then I saw this on ESPN. Okay, in games

451
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Speaker 2: where he's hit critical numbers as a Laker, all right.

452
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: Thirty thirty thousandth point came in a loss to the Spurs.

453
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Speaker 2: Thirty five thousand came and a loss to the Nets.

454
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Speaker 2: Passing Michael Jordan came in a lost to Denver. Passing

455
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: Kobe came in a loss to the Sixers. Passing Karl

456
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: Malone came in a loss to the Wizards. Passing Kreem

457
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: Abdul Jabbar came in a loss to the thunder and

458
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Speaker 2: now forty thousand came in another loss to the Nugets.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, at what point, Like it's cool that

460
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 2: he's he's amassing all of these stats. And again, when

461
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: the NBA record books are written, it's gonna say Wilt

462
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: Chamberlain and Lebron James present the NBA like I understand

463
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Speaker 2: that part. I guess that because he's just seems to

464
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: be accumulating stats, accumulating stats, and he's not really impacting

465
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Speaker 2: winning the way that he used to. I think it's

466
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Speaker 2: really easy to become numb to it.

467
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Speaker 1: I wonder, and I don't have anything to back this up.

468
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: In these games where everybody's like, oh, Lebron's gonna hit

469
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Speaker 1: the landmark, Lebron's gonna he's just getting he all. You know,

470
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: he just wants to get through the landmark and then

471
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: whatever happens the rest of the way is like, okay,

472
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: immaterial because he wants to hit the leg. It's in

473
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Speaker 1: his head. It's weighing on him heavily, and you know,

474
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: teammates are probably force feeding him the ball. I saw

475
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 1: the clip where Yoki is like, we're gonna stop you

476
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: from getting We're not letting you get it. You're gonna

477
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: get your tonight, Yeah, which just comical, but everybody's aware

478
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: of it, and like that's the primary focus again. March basketball.

479
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: You know, NBA. I got a buddy who's like, hey,

480
00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, we're going to a Lakers game this week,

481
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, we got a bet on the game.

482
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Speaker 1: And in my mind, I'm like, Lakers March basketball, Like,

483
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: first of all, I don't even know who's playing. I

484
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: just it's it's tough because you're right. I think the

485
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: individual accolade is kind of a big deal to him now,

486
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Speaker 1: which is fine. I get that, and I don't always

487
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: love the quotes where he's like, I've been being I've

488
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: been doubted since I came into the league for Makron, Like, yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: me either, Lebron, Let's not go there. Come on, bro,

490
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: nobody doubted you at all. Have you seen have you?

491
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: By the way? On Instagram? I see this probably once

492
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: a month where somebody will pop Lebron in high school

493
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: was just unfair. And then you watch and it's like, oh,

494
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: this guy was in like biology class, and then like

495
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: two hours later, Lebron is dunking all over the kid.

496
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's true, it wasn't fair, but

497
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: nobody doubted Lebron. Now, there were people who thought Mellow

498
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: should have been better. I was not one of those,

499
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: but like doubting him. I still remember his first career

500
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: game against the Kings. It's like, damn, this guy, he's

501
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: a problem. I don't think anyone's been doubting him, but

502
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: I get that, you know, this is what we need

503
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: to do. Michael Jordan forever he did it, and throughout

504
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: the last dance you could tell he's like, oh, yeah,

505
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: well they don't think I can do it, and blah

506
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: blah blah. Nobody thought that. I mean, you couldn't do it.

507
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: And then Pistons get old, Celtics get hurt, Magic retires. Yeah,

508
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: then you did it and nobody doubted you after that.

509
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, there were a lot of doubts about the bulls.

510
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: Jordan had to change the way he played, right. You

511
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: could stack thirty five point game thirty six whatever, you're

512
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: not winning, and then pal Jackson comes in, changes it,

513
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: They add Pippen and it's like, oh, okay, now we believe.

514
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, there were a lot of doubts about Jordan.

515
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubts about Lebron now. Rob.

516
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: You look at the playoff standings and it's like the

517
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: Lakers are ten. It's pretty clear the Jazz at eleven

518
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: are not gonna sniff it there five and a half out.

519
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: But this is what's very interesting, So the Nuggets are

520
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: starting to peak. Looks like the Jamal Adams issues with

521
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: the shin splinter behind him. It's probably a little too

522
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: hot of a take, but honestly, I don't want to

523
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: okay A, I don't want to be in the play

524
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: in if Denver's going to be the number one seed,

525
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't because you're just fighting to see who's gonna lose.

526
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: That being said, if Okay S's two in Minnesota three,

527
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: I think the most coveted seeds will be six and seven,

528
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's particularly close. So I know,

529
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: I know it's tough to like Jerry rig that, But

530
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: if I'm the Lakers, I'm trying like hell to stack

531
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: wins now so I can rest guys if need be,

532
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: and dodge certain teams at the end. I know it's

533
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: extremely difficult to do that. I get that, but I mean, Rob,

534
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: you don't want to face the Nuggets in the first round.

535
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: You just don't you. I don't know that anybody's beating

536
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: him in the West. I was dumb enough and naive

537
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: enough to think the Suns could. They can't. Now Booker's hurt.

538
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to see them in the

539
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: first round, but I gladly will face Oka, see Minnesota. Yeah,

540
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're with me, but I'm doing

541
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: everything in my power to dodge the Nuggets.

542
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: No, I'm right there with you, And I put out

543
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: this tweet in the middle of that Boston Celtics fifty

544
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 2: points shlacking of the Golden State wardsuse. I turned the

545
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: game off the middle of second quarter. I didn't finish

546
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: watching it. I just put out a tweet after the fact. Yeah, Boston,

547
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: I believe Boston is one A and Denver's one B,

548
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: and then there's a Grand Canyon sized gap between the

549
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: next closest team. Like those two teams at their peak,

550
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's touching them. If they can stay

551
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: with the Celtics, it's kind of their consistency. They get

552
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: to the playoffs, they kind of their effort kind of wings.

553
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: We saw that in the playoff series last ye against Miami,

554
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: where they were sleep walking through the first three games.

555
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: They played hard for three and I was like, oh, well,

556
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: they're obviously much better than Miami, and then game seven

557
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: they kind of laid another egg, probably because of Jason

558
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: Tatmian hurt. But Denver, if they have all their guys,

559
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: they even have all their guys against the Lakers, but

560
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: if they're starting five is healthy. They have the best

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Speaker 2: starting five in the NBA. The cohesion, the skill level,

562
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: the chemistry, like they're just unbeatable. Now, with all that

563
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 2: being said, the issue with your line of thinking of

564
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: trying to you know, finagle your way to a certain

565
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: playoff spot is the two teams I'm looking at will

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Speaker 2: be the Lakers and the Warriors, and I don't think

567
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: either one of those teams is good enough to like

568
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: consciously get to a certain seed, like they just got

569
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Speaker 2: to win. And both of those teams have been playing

570
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 2: better as of late recently. I know the Warriors, notwithstanding yesterday,

571
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: but they just got to hope that they can catch

572
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: up to Dallas and to you know, Phoenix with Devin

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00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: Booker's ankle injury, and the Kings have kind of been

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00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: up and down a little bit. But if those other

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Speaker 2: three teams in front of them don't keep losing more games,

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00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: it's not gonna matter what the Warriors and the Lakers

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Speaker 2: do because they're not gonna be able to get that

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Speaker 2: seven eight seed anyways.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if they do get stuck with the first round,

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Speaker 1: this is my concern. And obviously I like Lebron. I'm

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Speaker 1: a fan. Whatever Rob they got swept last year in

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Speaker 1: the conference finals. I don't want Lebron to get swept

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Speaker 1: in the first round. That's like me, it's not a

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Speaker 1: I just looked this up. The Jason tatumslander must stop. Now.

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Speaker 1: Cowherd's been pushing this nonsense on the Herd, bashing Tatum,

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Speaker 1: and I push back at every every opportunity. I'm just

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Speaker 1: going to tell you what Tatum has done in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs since getting to the league. Okay, at nineteen years old,

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Speaker 1: he averaged eighteen a game in the playoffs and they

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Speaker 1: lose to Lebron in seven. That was like the Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Thomas team. The next year, they lose to the Bucks

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Speaker 1: for one. I don't remember what happened, but maybe there

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00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: was an injury or something. Then they lose to the

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Speaker 1: Heat in the conference finals four to two. That was

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Speaker 1: in the bubble. Yeah, that was in the bubble. They

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Speaker 1: lose to the Nets for one. I think they had injuries.

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Speaker 1: The last two years NBA Finals and Conference finals lose

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Speaker 1: game seven. This team, Rob is awesome. Jason Tatum has

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Speaker 1: been to let's count him up, one, two, three, four

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Speaker 1: conference finals in his career. Okay, he just turned twenty.

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday, by the way to Tatum. He turned twenty

624
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Speaker 1: six on Sunday. Been a four conference finals. Joel Embid's

625
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: been to zero, but the narrative around him Bead is

626
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: so different than it is around Tatum. Rob. Just think

627
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: for a second. Joel Embiad's never been to a conference finals,

628
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: but everybody loves and he's an MVP and he's Joel Embie.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's so dominant, and it's like, oh, Jason Tatum

630
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: can't win a big game. What what what are we

631
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: even doing? Here. He's been to the conference finals four times,

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00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 1: he was in the NBA Finals, but he can't win

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00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: the big game. Oh he's not the MVP rob. It's

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00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: just so weird. And again, a lot of this is

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Speaker 1: this Jabbroni's on NBA Twitter. They really think they know basketball.

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Speaker 1: They a're no shit, and it's so frustrating listening to

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Speaker 1: them and they're nonsense. In the Tatum slander, listen, man,

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Speaker 1: he gets to the Lakers, they will stack.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I'm glad you're coming around to the hashtag

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Speaker 2: future Lakers, Jason tam you you sold me. I respect

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Speaker 2: that now. Yeah, it's stupid, and I'm not talking about

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Speaker 2: your guy Connor like Colin, but the idea that twenty

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Speaker 2: seven eight and five on forty percent shooting as the

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Speaker 2: hands down best player on the best team in the

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Speaker 2: league that has now beat three different teams by over

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Speaker 2: fifty points this season, can't even sniff the MVP conversation

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Speaker 2: because his advanced stats and because of his effective field

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Speaker 2: goal percent. It's like, bro, you're you're punishing him because

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Speaker 2: his team is good and the rest of his roster

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Speaker 2: is good. Like do we punish Nikola Jokic? Like well,

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Speaker 2: they say, oh, well, you know he doesn't have any

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Speaker 2: All Stars on his ross. Well, if Jamal Murray was

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Speaker 2: healthy enough, he'd be an All NBA player and much

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Speaker 2: less than All Star, Like he's one of the greatest

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Speaker 2: postseason players in NBA history. Yeah, and I'm not just

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Speaker 2: saying that because he'd bet the Lakers. Look at the numbers,

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Speaker 2: Jamal Murray in the playoffs is a freaking monster. You know.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand this idea, And even Draymond Green addressed this,

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Speaker 2: you know a few weeks ago, that he has to

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Speaker 2: win a championship before he gets considered MVP. And it's like,

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Speaker 2: what kind of moving the goal post type shit is that.

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Speaker 2: I know that Jaymon wouldn say it's his opinion. He's

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Speaker 2: just regurgitating what he's like the narrative is. And I

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Speaker 2: don't understand that, Like, I don't know why Jason Tatum

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Speaker 2: has to win a championship to get MVP love. But

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Speaker 2: as you alluded to, Joel Embiid has never got out

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Speaker 2: of the second round and he's widely regarded as not

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Speaker 2: only like a top three player, but a perennial MVP favorite.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's insane. And last year, if you remember, the

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Speaker 1: MVP went to Embiid because Jokic, essentially they were penalizing

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Speaker 1: him for never breaking through and winning a title.

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Speaker 2: Right yep.

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Speaker 1: And that's just stupid logic, like, oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm Beiid. Em Beid was better than even though Yoki

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Speaker 1: is clearly the best player, and Mbiid's won it before

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Speaker 1: and he hasn't He's never never delivered in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: It's just asinine. It's really amateur hour stuff. Rob. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap up with this. So last week, you remember,

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Speaker 1: we did the I haven't told Rob this guy, so

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Speaker 1: I want to hear his real time reaction. We did

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Speaker 1: the Kevin Durant stuff on the podcast about the about

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Speaker 1: the Olympics, right, yes, Okay, I'm bearing this. Let's not

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Speaker 1: hype it up in the podcast. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: get into war of words. So of course I've told

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Speaker 1: you guys. I tagged Durant when I talk about him,

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Speaker 1: so I tagged him. He writes what I do now,

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Speaker 1: and I sent him a clip where he said, like

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Speaker 1: forty fifty point wins, I want to do that, and

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Speaker 1: I said win by forty fifty dream team wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 1: Now the rest of the world is better, well, win goal,

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Speaker 1: but by forty fifty, come on, man. And then he goes,

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Speaker 1: what teams are better? And I said, nobody's better, but

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Speaker 1: everybody's good. Everyone has two to three four NBA players.

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Speaker 1: Basketball now globally has is the best it's ever been.

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Speaker 1: South su Dan has dudes. They got some guys. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we beat Japan by twenty plus, but the other teams

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Speaker 1: that are known all have NBA guys, and Durant writes,

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Speaker 1: and we got Hall of famers. Oh, we got all

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Speaker 1: Hall of famers. And I said, yeah, individual Hall of famers.

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Speaker 1: Throwing them together after a long season will be way tougher.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and I disagree, you banking on us being

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Speaker 1: selfish and other teams playing together. And then I sent

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Speaker 1: him the twenty twenty Olympics results. How we lost to

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Speaker 1: France by seven. This was played in twenty one. Beat

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Speaker 1: I ran by fifty four. There's your forty point win.

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Speaker 1: Beat Czeck by thirty five, Spain by fourteen, Australia by nineteen,

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Speaker 1: France by five, two blowouts, and it'll be tough for

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Speaker 1: comp in twenty twenty four, KD USA will have the

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Speaker 1: best Olympic team ever this time around. You never seen

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Speaker 1: this team, so stop comparing anybody else to it. I

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Speaker 1: don't give a bleep about twenty twenty or the dream team.

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Speaker 1: And I wrote much love Rob, Rob. This is not

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Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. I did write that. Rob.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, I love KD. I love that he is

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Speaker 2: so willing to engage on anything and everything. I totally

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Speaker 2: disagree with him. I'm like you, I think that between Canada, France,

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Speaker 2: Germany and we'll see if Yokic plays. And it was

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Speaker 2: he Serbian, right, I believe he's Serbia.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if he plays.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, like no, we're not gonna win any of

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Speaker 2: these games by forty or fifty points against like the

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Speaker 2: real competition. As great as all these players are, KD,

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Speaker 2: Lebron Steph, I'd pick those three in the three hundred

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Speaker 2: against anybody. Yeah, but we play a different style of

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Speaker 2: basketball here in the NBA than they play in the

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Speaker 2: Olympic and FOBA games. Most of our guys don't know

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Speaker 2: how to do the little things because they're so used

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Speaker 2: to being the star. And that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 2: why the team USA has struggled recently, and again, the

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Speaker 2: bigger point is the other countries are better. They're not

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Speaker 2: better than the USA, like you said, but they are

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Speaker 2: much better than they have ever been, and expecting us

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Speaker 2: to walk through them like paper mache is disingenuous. So

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I mean shout out to KD for responding

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Speaker 2: to you going that hard, but I disagree. Man.

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Speaker 1: At least he toned down the obscenities this time, which

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Speaker 1: was nice, and he's he might be right. This could

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Speaker 1: be the greatest team ever given Kevin Durant Lebron Curry. Now,

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Speaker 1: I would have to look. I think Curry has has missed.

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Speaker 2: He's never played in the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. He's had some injuries and he

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Speaker 1: adds a different dimension, but the rules are also different.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I don't think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a walk over, guy. I just, I just

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be a cakewalk And

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, so especially.

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Speaker 2: If I guy Jalen Brunson can't play, so he got hurt,

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Speaker 2: get dinged up there on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Ye we need we know our stars healthy in the

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. By the way, final quick word on

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Speaker 1: the Celtics. I didn't realize they'd be three teams by

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Speaker 1: fifty plus, that's right. I mean they also did not

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Speaker 1: even have Porzingis no in this game, and he's like

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Speaker 1: with their third or fourth best player. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: just like this team is an absolute unit. They're destroying people.

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Speaker 1: Eleven wins in a row. It's just so weird. Have

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Speaker 1: the narrative. Well, they haven't won a title yet, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll be shocked if everybody's healthy and

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Speaker 1: they don't make it to the NBA Finals, I'd be shocked.

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Speaker 2: Eleven straight wins, average margin of victory is twenty two

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Speaker 2: and a half points a game.

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Speaker 1: Man, are we missing a betting opportunity on these guys.

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Speaker 1: I haven't looked close enough, but they're obliterating folks. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe it's time to go the opposite way. After a

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Speaker 1: fifty point win, National TV Sunday, let me just quickly

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Speaker 1: see who they have next, see if it's worth fading.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gonna be an inflated number. They are Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Ooh this is good. Oh wow. They have a tough

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Speaker 1: stretch here, Celtics Tuesday at Cleveland, Thursday at Denver, Saturday

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Speaker 1: at Phoenix. So they're TNTTNT ABC this week. Oh, it

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Speaker 1: is a good week for NBA. Yeah, all right, we're

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Speaker 1: back to morrow. Talk to you then