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It's going down. Man, 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: We're doing it big now. Man, got my brother right here. 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. Listen, Man, listen, I want 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: to give you before I even start. I gotta give 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: you your flowers because you man. You me and you 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 3: had several phone calls. We had a thousand phone calls. 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: A couple of years ago. You hit me up. He 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: was like, Wowow, you need a book. This is years 35 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: ago and you was talking about how you and keV 36 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: was talking about you, and Kevin Hart was talking about 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: the man Wallow would be crazy on the audio book, 38 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: which I did my on audio book. Shout out to 39 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: you know, shout out the Ayana Van's ant also who 40 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: did the audio. She did the forward for me. Shout 41 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: out to thirteen name a publisher. Man for you, Yes, 42 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: for making it happen Simon and Schuster. But we're here now. 43 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: You told me, you tell me about the book of 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: your book. The book changed your life's right and the book, 45 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: the book, that's all you kept saying. And now we're here, man, 46 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: all with good attentions, you know, and it's game changed. 47 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: The book title is perfect for you because there's not 48 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: too many people on this planet who come with good 49 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: intentions like Wilow does appreciate that. 50 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: When did you develop that mentality? 51 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, Man. I was on the street corners, 52 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: I was, I was. I had good intentions on the 53 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 3: street corners. I just, I just, I just wanted to 54 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 3: steal American dream. And I said, man, this shit is 55 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: too slow. And I never seen nobody in my neighborhood. 56 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: The only people that got respected my neighborhood was a 57 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: successful criminals. So even though I was a good person 58 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: growing up, my grandma raised me, well my mom, you know, 59 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: you know, I was like, I gotta figure this out. 60 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: So I said, I got to man, the only people 61 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: they respect out is the people that's winning by any means. 62 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: And then even in America, I was like, damn, hold up, America. 63 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: They only respect the scar face, they only respect the Godfather. 64 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: They don't respect nobody else. I gotta go get some money. 65 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: So I just figured out, you know, even though my 66 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: heart was good, I had to go figure it out. 67 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: And that led me to put in most of my 68 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 3: life and and but you know, even in there thirteen years, 69 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: right twenty or twenty, I did twenty penitentiary five years 70 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: and then out the juvenile system. And even in that, 71 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: I remember, you know, over here said all I did 72 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: was laughing jail and just do what I needed to do, 73 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: educate myself because I realized that, and to the point 74 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: where somebody said I was one of the nicest dude 75 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: in prison because I knew why I was there. I 76 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: did mine so I was accountable for my bullshit, so 77 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: you know, and that helped me change and develop into 78 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: what I become today. And you know, I'm just happy 79 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: to be here and I and I try my best 80 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: to share all the knowledge that I got, as you know, 81 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: with our people, to show let's listen, we're bigger than 82 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: what y'all think we are. Because I always say this, 83 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: and it's crazy to me. It's like, you know, back 84 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: in the day, we didn't have nothing, but we had 85 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: everything because we had each other and that was important. 86 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: And it's like it seemed like now we find so 87 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: many rays, so many reasons not to deal with each other, 88 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: and it's like, god, damn you working for you go 89 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: on social media, it's like who you're working for. But 90 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: I had to realize something. A lot of us don't 91 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: want to look in that mirror and deal with it. 92 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: I don't hate envy because if his money, his cars, 93 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: his family's marriage. I hate envy because envy getting love 94 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: for doing something that I always wanted to do, but 95 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: I ain't have enough heart to go out here and 96 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: do it. No, I'm not talking about that. I'm just 97 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: talking about in general. Yeah, he do got that Beijing, 98 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like Beijing give medals, but but 99 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: like this and theraist, damn, okay, you better be paying 100 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 3: you the way you promo. But but what I'm saying 101 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: is like that's how culture became. It became like this 102 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: in social media mede that like a lot of people 103 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: got to look in the mirror and say, damn, I 104 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: didn't materialize my dreams. And that's the hardest thing to do, 105 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: is you know. So it's more easy to say Charlemagne 106 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: the sucker, envy this lord, this just this, it's much 107 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: more easy to say it than to say, let me 108 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: get off my ass and go ahead and do something 109 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: with my life. So but it's just it's just sad 110 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: out here when you see it now, and it's like 111 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: we just I don't know, man, And all we ever 112 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: had was each other. That's the only way we ever 113 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: made it in life. 114 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: Said in the book, you said, it's actually in the 115 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 4: chapter Arm of Good Intentions, you said you screamed out 116 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 4: one day and you made it a daily reminded that 117 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: nobody will save. 118 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: You, nobody, Especially when I was in prison, I'm like, 119 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 3: we complain in the we doing. I'm like, yo, bro, 120 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: we inside these white folks, spot ain't nobody coming, Like 121 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: if this shit go off anything else, we're gonna be 122 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: locked in these selves, Ain't nobody coming. But that's the 123 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: same thing in the ghetto. Ain't nobody never come and 124 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: save nobody? Who saves him? What was the change for you? 125 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: What was because you said you were in and out? 126 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: What was the change? 127 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: You said, Ya, I gotta get this right and I 128 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: gotta change myself. 129 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: Like to be realistic, man, I got tired tired of 130 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: being in jail with a bunch of with a bunch 131 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: of niggas. You see what I'm saying. I wanted to 132 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: take a butt nigga shower, you know what I mean. 133 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 3: I couldn't do that. I wanted to sleep neked in 134 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: the bed. I couldn't do that because I'm in the SECNA. 135 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: Sell you, I don't know if he might wake up 136 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: in the middle of night, be like, yo, man, let 137 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: me I need parts of that, like what we're doing 138 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: straight up? Wake up in the middle of the night. 139 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 3: You're like, hey, my man, let's let's figure something. 140 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: Out, you know what I mean. So I don't know. 141 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: I'm just being real because listen, you know what's crazy. 142 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons I made it through 143 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: jail so smoothly because I was always a comedian doing 144 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 3: a low you know what I'm saying. I was always funny. 145 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: They was like, hey, I mean I was because I 146 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 3: was in there scared to death. You know how dudes 147 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: come on from jail. I'll be trying to wonder that 148 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: I did all this time in jail. I'll be like, 149 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: what program was you on that you wasn't scared in jail? 150 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 3: That you was just so tough because I was scared 151 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: to death. Soon al they listen. As soon as that 152 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: judge gave me them numbers and they you know, you 153 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 3: had your shoe, had your thing together. It ain't about nothing. 154 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: Me like this, it ain't about nothing. I looked at her. 155 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: You all right, say my little words back before you 156 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: see them. It's back and forth. Word player I had 157 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: with the judge is that he be back on, walked 158 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: in the joint. You know what I mean. Now you 159 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: gotta do the walk back in because now you're going 160 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 3: back into the cages with everybody looking at you. When 161 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: you come down. What they give you what ith ain't 162 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: about nothing, man. They gave me a little twenties man. 163 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: That shit ain't enough, a little toyle. Listen, that's the 164 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: that's the cat. That's the cat. By the time I 165 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: get to my my cell, lead on that I threw 166 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: that tie up, crying like a baby man for a 167 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: new born. And then and then once you the shackles 168 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: hit you box like an animal, the shackles going from 169 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: your arm to your feet. You get upstate, you hit 170 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: that penitentiary yard and you like, well, my mom, man, 171 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: oh ship, I ain't know it was like this. I'm 172 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: seeing people with knights longer than the giraffe trunk. I'm like, Ship, 173 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: I old you I was. 174 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 5: I was. 175 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: I went to the penitential when I was seventeen, but 176 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: I hit the big prison yard when I turned eighteen. 177 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: I was in Dallas Penitentiary in Pennsylvania, and uh, that was. 178 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: That was a different type of Joe. 179 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: Man. 180 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm seeing people get married in the yard and all 181 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: that shit. I'm like, I ain't trying to be nobody's wife. 182 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: I ain't signed up for this ship, so I'm not 183 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: straight up. I'm looking like married in the yard. People 184 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: was getting married in the yard. 185 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: I said, damn, man, real weddings though. 186 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: It was real weddings like it wasn't though like if 187 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: you got the Bible when you got somebody that's officially. 188 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: Like you were just in the yard. I was walking 189 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: the yard. 190 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: Was I was in the backroub because I was walking 191 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: in the yard. So I'm like, I'm sitting there and 192 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, Ship, i ain't trying to get married 193 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: in the yard, man, Damn, like want some real shit. 194 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: And then I'm seeing people getting stabbed in on I'm like, yo, 195 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to So I would go to my 196 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: cellar and be like Yo, what the fuck is going on? 197 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: I ain't sign up for this because nobody tell you this, 198 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: because only stories that we hear back in the hood 199 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: about jail is that you come home and you get 200 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: rewarded and you get acknowledged and you tough and all 201 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: this other shit. You get muscles. But I'm like, I'm like, damn, 202 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: ain't nobody talking about the scary part. So I had 203 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: to be the one to tell the scary part, to 204 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: tell a real part because I was scared. Especially listen 205 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: when I first listened, no bullshit, I get up to 206 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: the big penitentiary. This was this was the one. I 207 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: get up to the big penitition. It is, so why 208 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: get always fuck with me about it? Because I need 209 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: to tell you stories. I get up to that, stories 210 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: from the cell. So I get up to the penitentiary. 211 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: It's shower time. I go down there. I got my 212 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: boxes on. 213 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: And all that. 214 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: So I'm like, damn, we go down there, and this 215 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: is my first time in a real cause. It's like 216 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: it was like I started. I went to the penitentiary 217 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: when a young When a lot of younger dudes started 218 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: to go like you was getting certified as adult, they 219 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 3: created a new law. So a lot of time it 220 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: was no young boys in the one penitential. I went 221 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: to dollars penitentials, mostly old heads, and they had the 222 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: most lifers in the state of Pennsylvania at this time. 223 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: So you could be in a cell with anybody. You 224 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: could do one year of being a cell with a lifer. 225 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: It don't matter. 226 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: So I go, I go to go to the shower. 227 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: So I got my towel on, my boxes on, and 228 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: when I went to the shower, right, I go down there, 229 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 3: steamed up in everything. The shower is probably like it's 230 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 3: probably like in that joint, probably maybe fifteen shower heads 231 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: and a block got one hundred and something dudes on there. 232 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 3: So when I go in the shower room, it was 233 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: like a movie. Like everybody looked at me, like while 234 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: you got the boxes on, anybody, I'm telling me it 235 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: was a I'm talking about it was a sword showing 236 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: that joint man with no. No, I'm just like no, 237 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: it's like that's not normal, like you, and I'm like, 238 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: you know what. That day I realized that a shower 239 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: wasn't important than the bird bath. I said, I could 240 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: go back to myself and just wash up there why 241 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 3: would I need? Why do a shower really mean that? 242 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: You ain't taking the whole way? No. I took it 243 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: for a while until I just you know, went down 244 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: there and short comfortable because because I had that, I 245 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: was like, damn, man, like why everybody gotta be naked 246 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: in this joint? 247 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Man? 248 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: And then they looking at you and then they talking 249 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: like like they'd be asked, and they talking, yeah, you 250 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: see the game? Oh man, what's the name? 251 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: Went off him Smith. 252 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, we ain't sposed like you're supposed to 253 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 3: be doing this. 254 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: I don't know when did you. 255 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 5: Get like like like comfortable with it, like your first 256 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 5: necade shower? 257 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 4: Were you? 258 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: I never got the next show? Yeah, but I got 259 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: one when I got to the jail where you get 260 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: your own booth. I wasn't trying to be a party 261 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: because it's like it's like a volunteer, like you volunteering something. 262 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: How long it took to do that, oh. 263 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: Years, two years. But different jail, different part of the 264 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: jail got different sections where you get a single shower. 265 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: So in that jail was jing we had the single 266 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: shower locked in. But it was like, man, I always 267 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 3: feel like like that was the volunteer services, like you 268 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: was you was you was giving imitations to something. So 269 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: I didn't know was the was the coke. 270 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: Kine story real that Booty be talking about sometimes. 271 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: But it was a different prison though, But I think 272 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: it might be the same prison, say when you see 273 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: a coke cane. 274 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: In the shop. 275 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: No, no, it's different. Different, different things go on in 276 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: different prisons. I can't speak to that because I wasn't 277 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: in the geographical location of him. But it's different stuff, 278 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 3: fair state, different states. But it's like I just knew 279 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: that they signaled side of me in your in the 280 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 3: prison was what you mean signal? It was people was 281 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: making love to slow music. Man, it wasn't no like 282 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: you knew what time it was. Dudes had the red light. Listen, 283 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: bro Dudes had dudeshoo to take dudesake no, no, no, listen, dudes, 284 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: you to take paint and paint. They like red to 285 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: be red lights red like span Man. They got the 286 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: music playing, You like, don't look at their sound because 287 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: wanted to look at nobody's sell So I'm like, man, 288 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: I you know you can't look at nobody self. 289 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: But that's the signal. 290 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: Though. 291 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: The signal was the red light. 292 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: No, it could be anything. 293 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: Man. 294 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: You could walk in the bathroom in the yard, somebody 295 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 3: be tongue kissing and you know, romantic. I don't know. 296 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 3: It was a lot of stuff. Jesus Christ. I just 297 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: knew that. I just wanted to make it out innocent, 298 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: removed from me, that's all. But it was wild, man. 299 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 3: But I knew it was certainly can and just why 300 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: I knew. I said, oh, man, I can't, I can't, 301 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: I can't. I can't go back to this hit. Dude 302 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 3: put something on my bed one time. I didn't. I 303 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: didn't even know. No, no, this what happened. No, no, no, 304 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: this what happened. So what happened is my laundry came 305 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: back folded, and I'm like, damn, man, this is these people. Man, 306 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: they fold your laundry and everything. Man, I'm happy as 307 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: ship laundry. There was a couple of snacks left. I'm like, So, 308 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, this is what's up. So O G 309 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: from down the way he peeped, you know what I mean? 310 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: I asked him. 311 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: I said, damn, man, they dad? He said, what they did? 312 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 4: What? 313 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: So he went and checked the older dude that did it. 314 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: The older dude was trying to go on the date. 315 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: But I didn't know it was. I didn't know that. 316 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 2: What did he leave though? No, no, no, no, no, 317 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: he didn't leave. 318 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: No, no, he know. He left some nice uh. He 319 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: had a box of nutty bars. It was some suits 320 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: and chips and it was a nice It wasn't listen 321 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: old way when he told me I'd have had it 322 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: was a nice bread. 323 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. So you gave it back 324 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: to him. You got to give it back to him. 325 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: I had to give it back to him if you 326 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 2: accept it. 327 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: No. No, But it wasn't just that he folded my laundry. 328 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: He worked in the laundry, and my drawers and all 329 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: it was folded. So I'm thinking, like, damn, this is 330 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: the pro this, this is the protocol of what they Damn. 331 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, they got some good service here, you 332 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: know what I mean. But once I realized that he 333 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: was looking for a date, I didn't I said, oh, ship, 334 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 3: you see what I'm saying. Lucky that I had the 335 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: old head did because I don't know what the happened. Yeah, yeah, 336 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: but it was crazy. It was crazy, man. 337 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: It was That's why y'all got to read this book. 338 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: It was deep man, you dedicated the book the lit Steve, 339 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: Aunt Ruby, Grandma or Uncle James, Uncle Tommy. 340 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: And hip Hop. 341 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: How did you know hip Yeah, that's my step Hop. 342 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 2: How did each of those people contribute to your journey? 343 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: Mim Ruby's first of all my grandma and this is 344 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: my grandma and nanny. She's she'd be ninety September thirtieth. 345 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: He's extraordinary. Ruby and her used to always gang war 346 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: min Ruby. You know, she was the only person I've 347 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: seen straight my grandma out, and don't nobody straight nanny out. 348 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: And they used to be going that this this was 349 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: her younger sister. Oh Man, and I used to call 350 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: home from jail. The stories that an Ruby used to 351 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: tell me was unbelievable. But I don Ruby was special. 352 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: She just was different. And she loved me, love us, 353 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 3: love us on me. She wound up passing, and she 354 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: passed my grandma house the middle room that I wound 355 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: up making parole to. That was one of the reasons 356 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: I was able to make parole because, you know whatever, 357 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: but God bless her. My my grandma Aura. She passed 358 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: when I was in prison. She was amazing, always real, 359 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: tell you just like it is. She was from the streets. 360 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: Uncle Tommy passed since I've been home. Was my big brother. 361 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: He passed my grandma arms in the crib he got shot, 362 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: ran down the street, died in grandma arms. She opened 363 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: the door. He aspired, that was my guy. But everybody, 364 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: them people is personal. You see what I'm saying. And Uh, 365 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: they were special in my life in different ways. They 366 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: helped me in so many different ways. And it's things 367 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: that I carried today that I got from them doing 368 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: my journey through, you know, doing especially when they was here. 369 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: And I always want to remember them people because I 370 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: feel as though a lot of people get forgotten that 371 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: give us so much and just because they're not there. 372 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: And I always feel like you really live when you 373 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: outlived how much you lived. And I'm saying that you 374 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: really live when you outlive how much you live. It's 375 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: people from our culture that outlive how much they live. 376 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: You've raveriged, Bossy. I'll rabage to certain people they lived 377 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: longer after life than they did their life. Absolutely, but 378 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: we don't do that with our family members and the 379 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: people that we love and the people that we know personally. 380 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: We keep other people alive based off celebrity, but we're 381 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: going to keep the people alive that was personally personal 382 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: to us. They get buried and the thank yous and 383 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: all that shit somewhere and sometimes forgotten. So I always 384 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: try to remember my people that died. They gave so 385 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: much to me. 386 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: Believe you right now, like if he saw the position 387 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: you was in when he believed no on everything. 388 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: I love my brother be doing just what Gilby doing. 389 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: We call me not that ass nigga looks you just 390 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: a not ass nigga ball because that was him. He's 391 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: a funny boy. He was all he wanted to do 392 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: is laugh all day. I'm just thankful that I was 393 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: able to the greatest thing that I ever did in 394 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: life and the history of my life was forgiving my 395 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: brother's killer. And the reason that was so important to 396 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: me because the ghetto nothing superseded. Nothing is. The hierarchy 397 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: is to get and the ghetto is revenge. But for 398 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: me to say, you know what, I want to live 399 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: for my brother, live for the kids, live for the family, 400 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: and put it in my heart to forgive someone that 401 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: took my brother out of there. Heard the devastated the family. 402 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: But I said to myself is we always ask for forgiveness, 403 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: We ask God all the time forgiveness, but when do 404 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: we forgive on a real level. And that was the 405 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: greatest thing I ever did. And I always encourage young 406 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: brothers to like, you know, because when you see our community, 407 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: it's like everybody is moving based off of a lot 408 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: of cats, is moving and continueing this crime criminal mindset. 409 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: And you know in the genocide based off award that 410 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: they never even knew about, Like you don't even know 411 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: why you beefing with somebody, and we never have a conversation. 412 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: It's like and even the level heads from different sides 413 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: of the communities never could sit down and just be like, yo, 414 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: this bullshit be on some bullshit, like come on, y'all, 415 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: we got like we shooting in the mirror out here 416 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 3: as black people and ain't nobody. I don't know what 417 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 3: it is. Man. It bothered me because I see a 418 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: lot of elders that are scared they want to be 419 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: young niggas, and it's like, no, you're not nothing deaf. 420 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: I tell them all the I'm not no, no, I'm 421 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: not I'm not. I'm an elder, but dog, I'm not 422 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: no young boy I'm not trying to be cool with you. 423 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what you want to hear. And 424 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: if you don't, because I know most of your day, 425 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: especially the artists, the athletes, they run around with a 426 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: bunch of yes men. I ain't one of them enough. 427 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: I don't care about it. I don't care who you is. 428 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you listen, man, that's some dumb shit. Man, 429 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: you want some dumb shit left me and Gil will 430 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: be like, Yo, that's some dumb shit enough. And even 431 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 3: if you just hear me for the moment, I did 432 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: my job. A lot of times I fell short and 433 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: doing my job. Well, I ain't gonna say I didn't 434 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: do my job, but I fell short because it went 435 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: on some deaf ears and we've seen what happened with 436 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: that a lot of times. 437 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 4: Man, look at all the different clips that you can 438 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 4: look at a wallow online warning people about what was 439 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 4: gonna happen in their situation or what was gonna happen 440 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: if they didn't change their ways and they came true. 441 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I, you know, I just be peeping 442 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: it because I see it like you could just see 443 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: it when you've been through it. 444 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: So long. 445 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: But that's why I try to share my story so 446 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: they could learn from my story and do live my story. 447 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: But a lot of times the money make people blind 448 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: and death. And when you get that paper, you think, 449 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: but one thing, I know, one thing, I know something 450 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: If I don't know nothing about this shit. When you 451 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: black in America, you get all the money in the 452 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: power you want. Man, man, but let me tell you something. 453 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: Mighty Whitey get to you. That's right, I'm just being real. 454 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: Mighty is over that courtroom. They humble the shit out 455 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 3: of you. They would get you in that court You 456 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 3: see how they laid Tyrek down Tyreek Hill, laid him down, 457 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: rubed him up, shut up. You see what I'm saying, Like, 458 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened, but I'm like they rubbed 459 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: him up real. 460 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: Good and still had he still had to go out 461 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: there and play. 462 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 3: Pretty sure, you know what I'm saying. So it's like 463 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 3: it's always a point, whereas though you be it'd be like, man, 464 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: shut up, nigga, and you always got to be on 465 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: point to know, you know, know how to move out here. 466 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 3: And it's sad that we got to do that, but 467 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: that's the reality of the environment. That that that we 468 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 3: come up in. 469 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: What did you realize this is what you wanted to 470 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: do when you came home and you said you took 471 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: that drive and you went back to you had the 472 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: McDonald's with the Grandma house. When did you realize this 473 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: is what you wanted to do and how you wanted 474 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: to change for the next generation. 475 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: I was in a shout out to the life of 476 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,239 Speaker 3: these Life for Brothers, this organization in WACP and all 477 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: the brothers that was in the penitentiary with me, the elders. 478 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 3: There's an organization called Real Street Talk. So I'm in 479 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: there and they in one of the old OG's brother, 480 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: minister Rob, shout out to him. He come to me 481 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: and said, Waller, we need you to come down here 482 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: and talk. It was a bunch of brothers should Core 483 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: Sharifa was a ike a Big Shannon, and it was 484 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: a bunch of brothers that was getting together the talk 485 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: to the inmates that was coming in two three hundred 486 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 3: inmates a week that was coming in to talk to 487 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: them about listen while you in jail, used this as 488 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 3: your time to educate yourself. So you go back out 489 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: there and make something happened with yourself and it was 490 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: called real street talk. So I was one of the 491 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: dudes that spoke in a way to whereas though they 492 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: really understood what I was saying because I was like 493 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: one of the youngest dude. Even though the og spokes too, 494 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: and I've seen it, they were listen. They was tapped 495 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 3: into it. And it was a brother, uh brother, Rob Griffin. 496 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: He was from the He used to do security for 497 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: Malcolm Mexican the Nation Islam back in the day, for 498 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: the Duff. You used to be the you know, the 499 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 3: head of security for the Nation of Islam back in 500 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: the day. And you know he held down Malcolm, hamming 501 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 3: all them it. And he came to my cell one 502 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: day because I was selling like next to him and 503 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: on a block greatest for it, and he was like brother, 504 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: Not too many brothers out here speaked whereas though multiple 505 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: generations could listen and understand it. And then the like 506 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 3: you speak clear, keep doing that. So when I got out, 507 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: just start grabbed it, grabbed that phone and just start 508 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: popping it because nobody was doing it. And I knew 509 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: that I had to do it in a unique way 510 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: because I was battling on the timeline was battling for attention. 511 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: You know when you go down the time line. I'm 512 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: looking at this. I said, Okay, I got to battle 513 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 3: the girl, this ass naked. I got to battle my 514 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: man with a pound of jerry On. I got to 515 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: battle the rapper, the athlete, I said, I got him. 516 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: That's why, if you've seen a lot of my videos 517 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: in the beginning, i'd be running across the highway eighteen 518 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: willer come laying on the ground, catch him on my head. 519 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: They laughing. But I'm giving you the message as long 520 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: as you listening, because what everybody was afraid to tell us, like, yo, 521 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: you can be great, you amazing, Like we build pyramids 522 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: with no cranes. I don't know what I'm reading this 523 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: shit in jail, Like, hold up, we did that? You 524 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: mean to tell me? Hold up? You mean to tell me? Uh? 525 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: We you know we came up out a slavery. This 526 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 3: little lady got us about a slavery. Since they got 527 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 3: us about a slavery, and that ingenuity. Ho, what the 528 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: fuck is going on? Frederick Douglass was who he did? What? Oh, 529 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: we we got most of the patents, most shit create. 530 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: Oh what the I'm like, yo, we can do it, 531 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 3: but you gotta I realized this, if you can make 532 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: them laugh, you can make them listen. And I always 533 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: was like, I always love comedy because I used to 534 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: listen to Paul Moody, Richard, probably all of my uncle 535 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: who played the records Red Fox, and I'll be laughing, 536 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: but they'd be saying some deep shit and they lace 537 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: it up. So I'm like, Okay, I just gotta give 538 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: it to our people in a different way, you know, 539 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: because I just couldn't get the whole Harriet Tubman thing 540 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: just just had me just like, Yo, there's nothing you 541 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 3: can't do that. Fuck them pyramids I'm talking about with 542 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: no cranes. It's no how would this done? We did that? 543 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: These adventures, we did this, we created what so it'd 544 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: be like what Black Wall Street we did? So I 545 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: just be looking like, no, it's just a different way, 546 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: in a different language you're doing it. And one thing 547 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: that I'm always doing, You'll never hear me say nothing. 548 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 3: You'll never hear me talk down to hate any of 549 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: our people, you know why never? All of our people 550 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: got it different. They got it. They might have a 551 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: different message. And no matter what you're doing business that 552 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: I don't care what you're doing. We don't have to 553 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 3: be doing the same thing. And just because we ain't 554 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: doing the same thing, even if we might be doing 555 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: something a similar we ain't got to be mad at 556 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: each other. I ain't got to hate you, ain't gotta 557 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 3: hate me. Because at the end of the day, is 558 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 3: this shit really about the uplook men of our people? 559 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: If it is, how can I go online and say 560 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: anything bad about our people? If I really care about 561 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: our people, I can't tear you down to lift them up. 562 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 3: It ain't gonna mathematically, it don't work. So what I 563 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: do is no matter if you say something about me, 564 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 3: say somebody, because what I'm never going to say nothing 565 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: about nobody because that's not gonna add value to the 566 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: whole plan above. 567 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: That's Willow really like this. 568 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do that. 569 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: Even off camera he's like that, and I'd be like, 570 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: fuck these. 571 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 5: Niggas I was actually do And so like this is 572 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 5: like a daily thing for you, like on and off camera, 573 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 5: like you said, but like when situations come about, like 574 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 5: when people make you upset, when things don't go your way, 575 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 5: Like how do you what's your mental lock in that 576 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 5: you stay grounded where you are right now, like, what's that? 577 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: My thing? Is this? Some of the times when people 578 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: have said things or I wasn't like I even look 579 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: at it, and I look at it now from a 580 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 3: critique bone and be like, yo, is that person right? 581 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: Am I tripping? I'm not a person that's like, I'm 582 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: logic to the point whereas though there's a possibility whereas 583 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: though I might do some dumb shit or some nut shit, 584 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: So I will even look at it because it's like, listen, 585 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: after me dealing with the white folks in that mountains, 586 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: and I'm coming in my cell at any times. It's 587 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 3: because I'm beefing with the guard for a week and 588 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: he's coming to myself every day for a week telling 589 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: me to get ass whole negad and spread and cough. 590 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 3: None of this shit mean nothing to me. You think 591 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: this shit means I did seventy three hundred days in jail. 592 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: You think I get So it's not that deep. But 593 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: I'm also would look at things and say, damn, do 594 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: they got to do they got a point there? Because 595 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: sometimes they might have a point. And just because you 596 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: not rocking with me, that don't mean you hating on me. 597 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: I might not just be your cup of tea and 598 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 3: you might don't know how to reach out or whatever 599 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: you might just so it's like, I'm big on that. 600 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: Everybody's not hating on you because they don't like what 601 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 3: you got going on. And sometimes I understand you might 602 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: rub people the wrong way because you might remind them 603 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: that they didn't go after their dreams. So it's levels 604 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 3: to this ship. But you know what I need y'all 605 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 3: to do is I need y'all to all try to 606 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: drink and once this is my drink, drink pure, pure, 607 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: take a s. 608 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 4: I got to ask you a question. You said, when 609 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 4: the officers came in your cell, right, the white boys, 610 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 4: and they told you. 611 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 3: To time out to drink. 612 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: I like it. 613 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 2: Let me see. 614 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 3: Drinking that watermelon blast. 615 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 2: Tell me that's good. 616 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: Think that's all I needed. I'm gonna sing on something. 617 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 3: But go ahead, get back. 618 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: To the And you said the officers used to come 619 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: in to yourself. Make you get that in the spread? 620 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 2: You ass? You did you fuss with them a little bit? 621 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: Are you just that all you heard? Got nugget? Yeah, 622 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: that's on you. 623 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: No, you know what's crazy? Like I got So it 624 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: was so like me I was so institutionalized. As soon 625 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: as I know, as soon as I see him cracking 626 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: the door, I'm already asked nackad like, I'm just like, 627 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: what's up? What were we doing today? Baby? Were doing 628 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 3: because I knew that. I knew that they want to 629 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 3: see They want to see some black heat. For real. 630 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: They was trying to miss. They was they was trying 631 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 3: to message. They were trying to see some black heat. 632 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 2: I knew what was talking. 633 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: I said, all right, fuck it, then let's get it. 634 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: Come on, let's do it in the kitchen. You turned up, 635 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's do it. 636 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: Let's go we ad it again, y'all back hot. I 637 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 3: know what y'all want. Shout out, people's turn around all 638 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: that shit, hit the wall and put my hands on wall, 639 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: lift my feet, twinkle my toes and all that shit 640 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: been down, spread them. And then after I spread and 641 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 3: grab my sack, I gotta go on my mouth and 642 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 3: all this dumb ship like, yeah, y'all have some kinky 643 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: bulls man. Yeah whatever, people keep being smart ass. I'm 644 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: freaking d. 645 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: You're still interesting? 646 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 5: Is there anything from like when you was locked up? 647 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 5: You know, sometimes people come home and it's like like 648 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 5: I got you can't hear certain sounds or like you know, 649 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 5: like do you have any of that from all the 650 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 5: time that you spent the jail. 651 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 3: I got all type of shit. I just I can't 652 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 3: keep up with it. 653 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: There's so much. 654 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: You can't keep up with all that shit. It's just 655 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: so much. You just you just live because you know 656 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: what's crazy. Being from the ghetto. We normalize jail so 657 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: much to whereas though you know the side effects of 658 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: that shit that had you, Like everybody got that shit. 659 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: The family members got side effects from dealing with the 660 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: jail experience. Is just going to see it, like you 661 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it's like it's just crazy, man. 662 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: But when it comes to prison thing, but I think 663 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: is so crazy? 664 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: Is that? 665 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: And I want to say this that the brothers out 666 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 3: there right especially if you're in the streets right now, 667 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 3: you're operating your gun, you just in the street game. 668 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: I just want to say something, rather you know it 669 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: or not, Black young black males in the street culture 670 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: build more communities outside of our community than anybody in 671 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: the history of life of America. Let me break this 672 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 3: shit down. When we get locked up. I come from 673 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: one nine, one three to two Philadelphia, the most people 674 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: that ever, they sent the most people to prison that 675 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: that area. Cole in Pennsylvania. Now, when I get locked 676 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: up up and me and the homies get locked up, 677 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: they build new prisons based on the population increase. When 678 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: the population increased, they'll take it down. They'll go rent 679 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: some farm area. They'll bring a lego prison, put it together. 680 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: Boom boom boom boom boom. Once they bring that prison, 681 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: they build the gas station, they build a Walmark, They 682 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: employ all these farmers. And this is me and the 683 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 3: homies doing this. And then now you got all this stuff. 684 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: They got this whole community that we built. But we 685 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: never we never built the home community. We never bought 686 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: on mama house. We never sent our kids to college, 687 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 3: but we send the kid were sending kids to college. 688 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: Every time you shoot a gun in the ghetto, you're 689 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: sending somebody else kid to college. Every time you rob somebody, 690 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: you're sending somebody. You're buying somebody paying somebody else mortgage. 691 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: Like we are the ultimate, the real street nigga is 692 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: the ultimate job security in America. The real street Niggas. 693 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 3: I'm to create more jobs than any other people, any 694 00:27:53,400 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: other group in America, more police, probation officers, sheriffs. I'm 695 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: telling all these every department correctional officers counts. Now, think 696 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: about the jail. In the jail, you know how mean people. 697 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 3: We probably over a thousand people we employ in the prison. 698 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: And you gotta think about it. Everybody from the the 699 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 3: guard to the counselor people that work in the kitchen 700 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 3: to the nurses. Like we do this and it be families. 701 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 3: It be nepotism on its highest level in there. I've 702 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 3: been in prison and I didn't seen guards start as 703 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: a rookie and then turning the war. And I've been 704 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: in prison. So and this grandpa, uncle, son, cousin. And 705 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: on the other side, if you look at this picture 706 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: in the book, and I try to explain generational incarceration, 707 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: this picture right here in the book of me right here, 708 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: that's me in the back. This is my step pop 709 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: hit To died. That's my brother Steve. That's my little 710 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: brother Jailiu. So in this prison, Dallas Prison Penitentiary. This 711 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: in the eighties, right, this is eighty seven. So in 712 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: eighty seven we going to Dallas prison to visit him. 713 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety eight, me and my Steppap was sell. 714 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: He's in that same prison, and in two thousand and five, 715 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: me and my brothers were selling in that same prison. Generationalcarceration. 716 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: And when we're looking on the other side, you'll go 717 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: see the warden. Then his son is a sergeant, his 718 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: cousin is a major. Like so we got families in prisons, 719 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: but they're on the winning side. Were on the losing side. 720 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: So when we're talking about this whole thing, this whole 721 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: I'm a real nigga, I understand what you're saying. But 722 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: you're gonna be a real nigga, and you're gonna be 723 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: in prison with your daughter graduating and growing up, and 724 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: there's gonna be some other men in our life that's 725 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: giving the game that's not beneficial to her. It's beneficial 726 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: to them, and your daughter gonna get taken advantage of. 727 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: So it's like when we looking at this whole thing 728 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: that we think we putting it down. I got a 729 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: bunch of brothers on the other side. They could tell 730 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: you they wish they could they could relive this because 731 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: they ain't never coming out of jail. 732 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: You the generational curse, brig O Wallow. 733 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: That's why I'm I'm a book man because I need 734 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 4: to see you on every platform having these conversations. 735 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: I want to see you on the view. I want 736 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: to see you. 737 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: But you know what. 738 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy, though, and this is why I 739 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: commend you like what I commend you is of this. 740 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: And this is while our Brothers Club is a major 741 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: platform for our culture and will always be. You get 742 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: it when it's not cool. You get it before it 743 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: go popular, you get it before it goes shiny. You 744 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 3: get it and understand that a lot of these people 745 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: don't give a fuck about that, even though you name platforms. 746 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: They don't care about that. They just want some shiny shit. 747 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: Now. 748 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 3: While low come out of prison one of the probably 749 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: and I'm not I'm probably one of the greatest comebacks 750 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: ever to come out of prison in life, but they 751 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: not gonna get that to a New York Time bestseller 752 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: here at all that stuff, So they don't understand us. 753 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 3: And we control cool, but a lot of times we 754 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: don't own it. So they try to get a close 755 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: proximity to our coolness, and we so much suck as 756 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 3: we don't be understanding that. We don't even know why 757 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: when we're being used out here. That's why it's a 758 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 3: lot of shit that I see online. I'll be like, damn, 759 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 3: we goofy as shit. Man, can't nobody outside of us 760 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: validate us but us. I'm never gonna let nobody tell 761 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 3: me that you're not cool, that you not cool, that 762 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 3: outside our culture. And I'm never gonna let nobody have 763 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: approval of what's cool and what's not outside of our 764 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: culture of this blackness. I love being black. I'm a 765 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: die blast, right. My family is black. So I look 766 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: at us and I say, with some extraordinary people and 767 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: it's not taking that enough from any other group of people, 768 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: but everybody else love themselves. So I'm gonna love me 769 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: and you know, and I got some extraordinary people that's 770 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: not black, this family that's been But at the end 771 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: of the day, until we start loving us on all levels, 772 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 3: we're gonna be left behind. 773 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: What do you think about when when Michael Ruben was 774 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: up here and said pretty much the same thing that 775 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: you just said right now, but he just said we 776 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: heard He basically said, our community hurts ourselves. That's what 777 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: you've been saying. 778 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: Let me say this though. Let me say this though. 779 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: Everything is about the message, because I can't speak on 780 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 3: behalf of you know, different races. I can't do that 781 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: because they gonna be like, who the fuck is you? 782 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: So that's normal. But one thing that I can say 783 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: is that I've seen our everybody is speculating. Everybody's around 784 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: on that that Meek was in that courtroom. I was 785 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: in that courtroom to come to speak for me. Michael 786 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 3: Rubin was in that courtroom. And when we took that 787 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: break after the the you know, the judge was roughing 788 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: me up I'm talking about. She was like, she was 789 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: roughing me up. We went outside to the hallway and 790 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 3: Mike looked at us and said, what's going on in here? 791 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 3: Like this guy was really shocked. I'm like, this is 792 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 3: being black in America. He was like, what the fuck 793 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: I'm talking about? He was personally pissed because he didn't 794 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: understand them to be going because a lot of people 795 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: just don't know. 796 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: He said, he didn't realize there was two Americas until. 797 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: Like he listen that day. He looked at and then 798 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: he attempted to walk back in the courtroom after we 799 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: had the conversation, and she slapped him around, and he like, 800 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: what the I can't like cause he stood up and 801 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: spoke and stood up, and she was like, all right, 802 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: writing in the paper like he went and done something. 803 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: I respect Mike for that. I don't care what no 804 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: like Mike went and done something. You know, people won 805 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: have their opinions on people, but I'm talking about when 806 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 3: I see a good person, I see a good person, 807 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: I salute a good person. 808 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 4: That's it. 809 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: I ain't with all that other shit, because I'm gonna 810 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 3: tell you something. Man, to be real with you, I 811 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 3: got a lot of people, but it's not black. They 812 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: helped the shit out of me because they really people 813 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: that really believe it. And I ain't talking about business. 814 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 3: I'm talking about in life, people that people that love 815 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 3: you love you. It's not it's not always gonna be 816 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: a colored thing. And I know we fight so much 817 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: to get us together, but at the end of the day, 818 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 3: while you spend your your time on this planet, you 819 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 3: better love who love you, and you better figure out 820 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: who loved you and who got your fucking back. Because 821 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something. I don't know what anybody 822 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: else doing out here, but I'm forty five and I'm 823 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: saying to myself, hopefully I get another forty five out 824 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: here because my grandma naety. So I'm measuring it by 825 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 3: my uncle James, rusting piece of him. He died he 826 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 3: was ninety three or ninety four. But we gotta we 827 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 3: got a nice lemph in our joint. 828 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: Pas. 829 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 3: Oh but is that a pause camp. I gotta run 830 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: that podcam because I'm talking about the lift of years. 831 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: I'm not saying but oh yeah, yeah, definitely, I gotta call. 832 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: It, you know. 833 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is, well, you was a pause 834 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: champion because the more you in the guinness. But I'm 835 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: gonna say this. I'm gonna say this though I'm looking 836 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: at it like I'm forty five. Now there's a big 837 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 3: chance twenty you know what I mean, like fifty percent 838 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: of my life or thirty whatever. I'm getting out of 839 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: this joint one day I can't worry about. I'm gonna 840 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: be going. I gotta go. I gotta go, and when 841 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 3: I go, my whole thing. I want to be able 842 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 3: to say I left that shit on the planet. That's 843 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 3: why I live a life that I live. 844 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: I do me. 845 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: If I want to buy someone buy it. If I 846 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 3: wanna go somewhere, I gonna go somewhere. I'm not living 847 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 3: my life based off of some fear of shit because 848 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 3: guess what, you know how many motherfuckers in the graveyard 849 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: sitting there mad as shit? Like Damn I should have 850 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: got disit, Damn I should have went here, Damn I 851 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 3: should have done this. We don't do it enough, We 852 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 3: don't live enough, we don't put more positive energy out enough. 853 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 3: Because I'm saying to myself, Damn, I gotta I got 854 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: a lot of shit to make up on because I know, 855 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: you know, when I see yad, I don't want it 856 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: to be like Nigga, didn't I tell you, Nigga, you understanding, 857 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: because God get foky for people. You know what I mean. 858 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 3: I don't want to be the one be like you 859 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: had plenty of time, nigga, you know where you gotta go, 860 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: you know I mean. So it's like, at the end 861 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: of the day, I just try to put the best 862 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 3: energy possible out there to our people to let them know, listen, man, 863 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 3: we ain't got time. We ain't gonna be if ever 864 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 3: love each other, do what you gotta do and keep 865 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 3: it moving, but one day you gotta get the fuck 866 00:34:59,480 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 3: up out of here. 867 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: What led the Ian Levon's not writing the forward for 868 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: this book. 869 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: The craziest thing in the world. So she hit me 870 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 3: one day in the DM I almost passed out. 871 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: And this is why. 872 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: Acts of faith what we call the Purple Book in jail. 873 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 3: That was like a joint of anybody carry around in 874 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 3: the bike pocket they be writing the little love notes 875 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 3: outed to the girl and all like. It was a 876 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: powerful everyday messaging book. So I had the Purple Book 877 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,959 Speaker 3: most of my bits. So I'm like when she DM me, baby, 878 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, what the I'm like, this gotta because I'm 879 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 3: the dude that's different than I'm not no dude to 880 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 3: think I'm I'm a regular person in my world. So 881 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm this person that I'm starstruck when 882 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 3: I see people that's important in my life. If I 883 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 3: see certain rappers from Star Truck. Gil got mad at 884 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 3: me because it was six in the morning and I 885 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 3: seen Big Daddy came in the airport and I draw 886 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 3: attention on him. He said, why are you doing it? Dumb? 887 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 3: She cousin came and came. Didn't want to really be bobered. 888 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 3: I know he didn't, but fuck that came. He was 889 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 3: a legend. I got announced Chuck d I seen him 890 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 3: at the Joint. You know what's happening. You know what's crazy. 891 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell some deep shit. This how I knew 892 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 3: I was a hip hop history in it. I was 893 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: a major part of hip hop. I was at Lee 894 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 3: Corn party and he was giving him award City of 895 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 3: Hope I think in l A and Chuck D looked 896 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 3: over at me. He said, I said, I made it, 897 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 3: Chuck D, you understand this. Chuck D looked at me 898 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: and gave me the joint light and in my mind 899 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 3: he told me fight the power like he knew it. 900 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: But he didn't say that. Chuck didn't say that right. 901 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 3: Chuck didn't say that right. Chuck didn't say that, But 902 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: this is this is the thing that's crazy. Chuck didn't 903 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 3: say that, but I felt as that And he didn't 904 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: follow me on this Stagram. You know, I don't not 905 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 3: petty about that. 906 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: You didn't get a chance to speak to him. 907 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 3: No, we we wapped it up, but I was I was. 908 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 3: I was ready to pass out because it's Chuck D. 909 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 3: So I couldn't get myself together. He was like, go 910 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: and tell Michael Jackson concert. I was ready passed out, 911 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 3: but I didn't want to so Chuck D. I was like, damn, 912 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: this dude's a legend. I'm beefing with DJ Premier because 913 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 3: DJ Premier for him to be alleged he followed Gilly 914 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: and he wasn't following me. So I'm real petty about that. 915 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, Gill don't know nothing about rapping. I do, like, 916 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 3: you know, gourgu was like ole to me. Usually so 917 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 3: me and beefing, but like, I love him Bob so much. 918 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is that I'm not going to 919 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 3: see no legend and don't it, don't freak. I was 920 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 3: crazy because Chuck D. You was a soundtrack to the 921 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 3: struggles that took place in America and Yo, and we 922 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 3: didn't have no food. We had public enemy and that 923 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: helped us through the course. So so when she hit me, 924 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 3: I almost passed out. I'm laying down. I'm like, oh 925 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 3: my god, and y'all a Vanzana. She just DM me. 926 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, this is like your spiritual mother. 927 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 3: So I hit her back. But so what happened is 928 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: I asked her. I mean I had told Charles. I 929 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 3: was like, yo, man, I said Charles Man. He said, man, 930 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 3: ask her, man, you need to forward asks. I said, bet, 931 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 3: I'm an asker, and I hit her up. She broke. 932 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 3: She let me come to the house, made me a meal. 933 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 3: The food was delicious. 934 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 5: Come on. 935 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 3: I didn't want to be greedy, right, you know what 936 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: I mean? But I was like, damn, I didn't want 937 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 3: to ask for another plate. 938 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 2: But it was great. 939 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 3: It was like these stremps. It was just the sauce, 940 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: is right. It was just it was spectacular. And I 941 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 3: wanted to make a doggie bag, but I didn't think 942 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 3: that was appropriate. But whatever, but she bring me down 943 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: to the house. I'm down there. She showed me so 944 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 3: much us shout out as Zi kid too, her manager 945 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: to do things, but like, and she showed me so 946 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 3: much love man, and she and she read me. She 947 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 3: read me beforeward right there and there and and then 948 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: I hit up. And when I hit her up to 949 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: do for the audio, she just done it that day. Wow. 950 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 3: And I'm talking about like and it was based off 951 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 3: of love and how she seen me for us, and 952 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 3: it was everything. 953 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: You know. One thing I want you to talk about 954 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 4: before we leave, you said, you said the feeling of 955 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 4: not being punished for doing something you knew was wrong. 956 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 4: Was equivalent to your first orgasm. How long did it 957 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 4: take for you to actually feel guilt when you when 958 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 4: you did something wrong? 959 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 3: Man, it took me a while because you're young and 960 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 3: you just don't know, so it takes you a while. 961 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 3: And then then when it hit you just be like, damn, 962 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 3: I did some crazy shit, you know. But it was 963 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 3: a while. It was just a thirst. 964 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 2: It was just I don't know. 965 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 3: I think I was just part of stealing an American dream. 966 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 3: I was doing my thing because I wanted to be 967 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 3: You go understand, I'm looking at these fucking movies, man, 968 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 3: I'm looking at ray Leola and motherfucking good Fellas, and 969 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 3: you know the part where he burning the cars up, 970 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: he throwing the joint. He said. By the time I 971 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 3: was fourteen, I was making more money than the grown 972 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 3: ups around my neighborhood. I'm like, damn, I wanted to 973 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 3: be there. I wanted some money because we're gonna be 974 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: I always tell people this, when that guy in the 975 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 3: eighties pull up with that Bens and you know what 976 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 3: I'm telling me, he got the Bens in the eighties, 977 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 3: he got that gold chain on, he got that Felix 978 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: sweatsuit on with them felas he got them rings on them, 979 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 3: nugget rains and all that shit. And he pulled up 980 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 3: to the neighborhood. He's pulling up to our black communities 981 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 3: to deal with the most beautifulest girl in our neighborhood. 982 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 3: And when he pull up to get her, as he 983 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 3: opened in the car door and she getting in the 984 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 3: car door, you know, speaking to him. Ms Johnson, Miss Brown, 985 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 3: Miss Green, They hey, baby. But at the same time, 986 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 3: you're seeing mister john come back from work. He's a 987 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 3: plumber or dirty and everybody speaking to him. I'm sitting 988 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 3: on the step watching all this shit take place. So 989 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 3: I said, damn, I got to be a part of 990 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 3: this shit. In the black community, the women dictate who 991 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 3: the men want to grow up to be based off 992 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: of who they date. Real So I'm looking at it 993 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: like shit, I'm only seeing these girls. They there dealers 994 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 3: and dudes. They got nice cars. I gotta get me 995 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 3: some nice cars to get me some asks. I got 996 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 3: to get some I gotta hear some jar. I gotta 997 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 3: get some fly. I gotta get fly. That's what it 998 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 3: was about. And the way you saw to get fly 999 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: people they only respected the criminals in the game. The 1000 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 3: fuck America. Look listen, money and violence. Listen. Do you 1001 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 3: go ask any judges, lawyers, prosecutors and all that. What's 1002 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 3: your favorite movies? Coy Fathers, what's your favorite series? The Sopranos, 1003 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 3: Everything Gonna Be? They love the successful criminals. So I 1004 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 3: grew up to try to be that. But as I 1005 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 3: grew older, I took responsibility say oh, yeah, I want 1006 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 3: some dumb shit I did wrong. You never heard me 1007 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 3: say it was No. I wasn't in jail for some 1008 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: shit that magically did or because of the white man. 1009 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 3: I was in jail because I wanted to get busy, 1010 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 3: and I did what I did. 1011 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 5: To your point about women shaping everything, you talk a 1012 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 5: lot about black women and see no women and how 1013 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 5: you staff your team with women, can you talk like 1014 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 5: why that's important and how that's helped you along your 1015 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 5: journey as. 1016 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 3: You like, Bill shout out to my manager, business part 1017 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 3: of desiret Ivy, shout out the Ammo Rill, shout out 1018 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 3: the shayam lost some attorney. These women. Let me say 1019 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 3: something to you about these women. They get shit done, 1020 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 3: that's right. They not playing games at all. They know 1021 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 3: it's not they don't. I don't know what it is about. No, 1022 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 3: they getting them going crazy. They lose their mind about No. 1023 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 3: I'll be like, damn, what happened? Somebody told me? No, 1024 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 3: todath what what's going on? Don't worry about the mine 1025 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 3: your business. I get to the bottom, I'll tell you 1026 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 3: when I get it done. They move in different, They 1027 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 3: move different, man, they move different, and you know what, 1028 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 3: you know what's going on. I just want to say this, 1029 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 3: And a lot of these companies in America they be 1030 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 3: playing games and a lot of times people don't see 1031 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 3: them because they be in the shadows. But when it 1032 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 3: comes to our culture, black women run. 1033 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 2: That shit absolutely. 1034 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 3: I'm talking about from not just from the consumer side, 1035 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 3: not just from the the marketing side, but from the boardrooms. 1036 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 3: The sisters. I went to the ballroom of Rich Claiming 1037 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 3: Company with sisters running that shit. Sisters running shit everywhere. Like, 1038 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna get something off you ain't 1039 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 3: got no sisters in that fold. 1040 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 2: Every single daity I got a black woman running. 1041 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,959 Speaker 3: Shout out to all the shit Dollar Dolly's a monster, 1042 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 3: She's no joking, Nicole, Shout out to all the sisters 1043 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 3: out there that's doing it, going up against all the bullshit, 1044 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 3: all the racism in these companies, y'all, y'all going to HR. 1045 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 3: HR is playing games with y'all. They trying to weed 1046 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 3: y'all out. Because as soon as his sister get up 1047 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 3: and she stand up for herself, oh she's being everybody 1048 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 3: play victims. Soon as the sisters speak up for herself, 1049 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 3: after they see all the dumb shit, these people being, 1050 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 3: these corporations, throwing all these rocks, doing all this stupid shit. 1051 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 3: As soon as his sisters say, I'm not going for that. 1052 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, she's being aggressive. Oh my god, I'm scared. 1053 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 3: Locked the door, get that that's cat. Stop that victim shit. 1054 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 3: Because her sisters stepped up for USLF one thing about 1055 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 3: a black woman. I don't care who. She's not dealing with, 1056 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 3: no bullshit, a sister of color, Latino black, They not 1057 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 3: dealing them with that ship. That's right. Why do you 1058 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 3: think we scared of? 1059 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: That's right? 1060 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 3: You know what I meant that damn shit. 1061 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 2: It's's Luthor Rocky too. 1062 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 3: He first of all, first of all, shout out the 1063 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 3: Rockhill boy, your ass boy. I just see flights we 1064 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 3: go a Rocky. I'm going to see wild we shout 1065 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 3: Rocky listen, but Roquel professional named Raquel Diazeus for uh, 1066 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 3: you know us getting this done. Great writer did a thing. Uh. 1067 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody, man, my my, oh yeah. Shout 1068 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 3: out to Johnathan Minion for the cover. Shout out to 1069 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 3: Simon and shooes at thirteen Charles Shoes, everybody for making 1070 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 3: it happen. Yeah. No, Johonath Demelia did all the legend 1071 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 3: ay hip hop jo he did all the Leegenid did, 1072 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 3: jay Z, she did anything. But I just want to 1073 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 3: shout out to everybody out there that is doing anything. 1074 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 3: And I need to say this to you. I don't 1075 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 3: care if you gotta what I stand. You got a 1076 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 3: T shirt company, you gotta put the tape out music, 1077 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 3: You're doing art. You won yes away from the world changing. 1078 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 3: Stop looking on Instagram and thinking everybody's beating you and 1079 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 3: you running late and you ain't enough. And I want 1080 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 3: to say something to the sisters out there, you are enough. 1081 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 3: They'll never let nobody finiss you. Don't tell you that 1082 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 3: you got to be this and you gotta have this, 1083 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 3: you gotta wear this. You gotta go head, you gotta 1084 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 3: take live your fucking life. Do you in every way 1085 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 3: possible and tell them young brother out there, y'all kings, 1086 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 3: y'all ain't slaves. So what y'all gotta do is, y'all 1087 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 3: got to understand, y'all the most fearless group of young 1088 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 3: men ever on the history of life. This generation right now, 1089 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 3: this generation of young black men out here is the 1090 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 3: most fearless Black men ever. Y'all do not give off. 1091 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 3: Just imagine if y'all switch that up. Imagine what you 1092 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 3: could do when you go when you say, you know what, 1093 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to be a drug deal I want 1094 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 3: to be a business man. I don't want to be 1095 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 3: a killer. I want to be a healer. I want 1096 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 3: to be a giver. I'm saying they could change. And 1097 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 3: to my young brothers in the community, rap community, stay 1098 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 3: away from them drugs man. And it's coming from a 1099 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: man that never did a drug a day in his life. 1100 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: I never did it because I had to watch my homies. 1101 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 3: I had to make sure they get home at night. 1102 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 3: And my homiees smoked. You know, they didn't smoke PCP 1103 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,839 Speaker 3: did all that type of shit, you know, to snort. 1104 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 3: The little coach, you know, did a little bit of 1105 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 3: little but I always watched it and I said that 1106 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 3: ain't for me. And I don't know who told you this. 1107 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 3: If you you're going through somebody, find somebody to talk to, 1108 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 3: get a therapist, get a therapist. Stop trying to self 1109 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 3: medicate yourself because you don't know what you're doing. And 1110 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something, brothers. When you hit the town, 1111 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 3: you young brothers, and I'm gonna be real with you, 1112 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 3: everybody is trying their way to get some drugs to you. 1113 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 3: And you don't know if anybody drugs is drugs. I'm 1114 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 3: just being straight up. I don't know you know what 1115 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 3: I mean. I'm just saying, you got all these people, 1116 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 3: make it fake this, fake this. You don't know what 1117 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 3: you're taking. And when you get that money, young brothers, 1118 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 3: stay out of don't stay off them handcuffs. Man, Please please, man, 1119 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 3: no disrespect your blessing because God ain't gonna keep blessing you. 1120 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 2: Man. 1121 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 3: You think God, listen, God gotta work with billions of people. 1122 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 3: You think God will just keep coming around blessing you. 1123 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 3: That's right. God ain't gonna keep blessing you. Take advantage 1124 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 3: of these blessings. Keep doing your thing, and just know 1125 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 3: anytime you see, don't stop me. I'm gonna say something 1126 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 3: to you. I'm gonna tell you what's going on. And 1127 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 3: a lot of y'all know. I'll reach out. 1128 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 2: I DM y'all. 1129 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 3: I talk to y'all regular. Man. Just know that you kings, 1130 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 3: know that you queens, and know that the world is 1131 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 3: waiting for all of us. And we're gonna make it. 1132 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 3: We're gonna make it. 1133 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 4: We gonna you know, listen, Good Intentions is out now, man, 1134 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 4: everybody go pick this book up from Wallow. 1135 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 3: Uh. 1136 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 4: We gotta make this in New York Times best seller. 1137 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 4: When today tonight we're gonna be at Uncle Bobby's in Philadelphia, 1138 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 4: me and my man Wallow having more conversations with Bobby's. 1139 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: Yes about this book. 1140 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 3: Armed with a good intentions, make sure we get you stopped, 1141 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,919 Speaker 3: my man spot. Make sure to give you them cheese steaks. 1142 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 3: You like them, taste cheese steaks. 1143 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 2: I had some joints something without that you like. 1144 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 3: He was he was home, he too the way you 1145 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 3: made them damn. 1146 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 4: Oh yeah probably yeah, yes, yes, hey slute, the taste 1147 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 4: sell cheese crazy now I like that type of stuff. 1148 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, and uh, find your way to 1149 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 3: support local businesses. 1150 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 2: Make Wallow New York Times best seller What Happens Wallow 1151 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 2: On tammering and all. 1152 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 3: That stuff up. We gotta also, uh, we gotta get 1153 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 3: if you're out there, if you have any hair killing companies. 1154 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 3: DJ Mvious, looking. 1155 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 4: Like the Darts eyebrowns his mother sponsors The Gentlemanking Brown 1156 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 4: wall Don't Make Good Intentions is out now. 1157 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 3: Pick it up. The Brown Girls grinding, Wake that ass 1158 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 3: up in the morning. 1159 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club