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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike. Today, I want to share

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Speaker 1: with you my top five favorite movie posters of all time.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll get into an interview with director Lee Cronin,

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Speaker 1: which will continue our discussion of movie posters. But he

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Speaker 1: is the director of Ewel Dead Rise, one of my

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Speaker 1: me thinking it's actually a pretty good movie. And in

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Speaker 1: the trailer park, I'll be talking about Craven the Hunter,

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Speaker 1: I feel like movie posters have gone the way of

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Speaker 1: the Western. That is my new slogan I'm trying out

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Speaker 1: on this podcast, the way of the Western, meaning they

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Speaker 1: are no longer a thing or no longer as popular

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Speaker 1: as they used to be. And when it comes to

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Speaker 1: movie posters, they used to be the thing that I

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Speaker 1: attached with watching that movie. I would always see the

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Speaker 1: poster first and base my decision on wanting to watch

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Speaker 1: copies of these posters that would be displayed in these

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Speaker 1: having so much enjoyment looking at all the movie posters.

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Speaker 1: But it's the image that you see when you actually

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Speaker 1: go to the movies out front. It should be the

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Speaker 1: biggest part of the marketing and packaging of a movie

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Speaker 1: creating an iconic image that stays with your mind. But

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Speaker 1: of course the world has changed, technology has changed. I

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Speaker 1: feel like studios now focus more on the trailer, getting

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Speaker 1: the views on YouTube and on Instagram and TikTok. I

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Speaker 1: just feel like now the movie poster ranks so low

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Speaker 1: on the list and the marketing because back in the day,

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Speaker 1: there used to be artists who would be assigned to

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Speaker 1: these movie posters to sit in a room and actually

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Speaker 1: historical images for movies of all time. It used to

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Speaker 1: they took money. Some of the most iconic movie posters

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Speaker 1: took months to make. But what I loved about it

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Speaker 1: So they would be given scenes from the movie, maybe

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Speaker 1: and then through photographs and through scene references, they would

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Speaker 1: now they just feel like they're thrown together pretty quickly,

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Speaker 1: showcase all of my favorite ones. These are the posters

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Speaker 1: I would put on my wall. At Number five is

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Speaker 1: the most recent one from twenty nineteen. It is Parasite.

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Speaker 1: It is my favorite of the last five years. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like a movie poster should be worth a million,

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Speaker 1: Why are they laying there? Is that person dead? Is

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Speaker 1: have teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the movie poster from nineteen

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Speaker 1: And that's just an iconic nineties image and it tells

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Speaker 1: something that movie posters have gotten away from and says, hey, dude,

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, I have Child's Play two, and this is

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Speaker 1: It conveys perfectly what the horror genre is all about.

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Speaker 3: Hey how are you, Lee? Hey, Mike, carry you? I'm good,

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Speaker 3: the door, I base the framing of that on the

435
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Speaker 3: Evil Dead two poster. So after she's gone into the

436
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 3: bath and done all her crazy screaming and then she

437
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 3: comes back out to surprise the family, if you look

438
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 3: at the angle and dynamic of that shot and the

439
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 3: position of her eyes, it's a direct reference to the

440
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Speaker 3: Evil Dead two poster and artwork.

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Speaker 1: I love that. The other thing I loved about this movie.

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Speaker 1: That first opening scene, the first maybe twenty minutes of

443
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Speaker 1: the movie, I really start to connect with the characters,

444
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Speaker 1: and I think sometimes in horror movies they just get

445
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Speaker 1: into oh, here's all the blood and guts right away.

446
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, But what.

447
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: Changed the level of this movie is like, I care

448
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: about their backstory. I care about them getting together. So

449
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Speaker 1: what is that kind of balance you have of like, Okay,

450
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Speaker 1: I'm going to kind of commit to fleshing out these characters,

451
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Speaker 1: even though I know people came here for the horror.

452
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: You bought them in with the trailer, Like how do

453
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Speaker 1: you balance that?

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Speaker 3: I think you've got to just try and be true

455
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Speaker 3: to those characters and give them enough air to exist

456
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: and to feel real. I think that that is really important.

457
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Speaker 3: And I remember when I approach this, because I again

458
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Speaker 3: understand Evil Dead and what these type of movies need

459
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Speaker 3: to be. I knew that I couldn't have extraordinarily elaborate arcs.

460
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: You know, there had to be a point in time

461
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: where things turned. And maybe it's really Beth in a

462
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: lot of ways and Cassie to a certain extent, as

463
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Speaker 3: they're accepting what's happening and trying to form this new

464
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: little family unit to survive as the film progresses. But

465
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Speaker 3: it's funny you talk about structure a lot when you write,

466
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Speaker 3: and obviously I wrote the screenplay, and you know, from

467
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Speaker 3: that point of view, rather than looking at it as

468
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Speaker 3: a traditional three act structure, it was there was three

469
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Speaker 3: parts to it. In my mind. There was a really

470
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Speaker 3: great opening to the film that would draw people in,

471
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Speaker 3: give them a fright, give them some scares, give them

472
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Speaker 3: some of that visceral, give them a taste of what

473
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Speaker 3: was to come. And then I wanted to go and

474
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Speaker 3: spend some time with the family and hopefully have put

475
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Speaker 3: people on edge so that then when they spend time

476
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Speaker 3: with that family, they're wondering, well, when is this going

477
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: to kick in and when is it all going to

478
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: go crazy? And so I was comfortable spending time in

479
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: that space with that family, getting to know and love

480
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 3: those characters, because then when I turn it and everything

481
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 3: falls apart for the people and the darkness rolls in

482
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 3: and the evil wakes up, what you're kind of facing

483
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 3: them is just that roller coaster, but you're doing it

484
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Speaker 3: with people and characters that you care about. That was

485
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: the key. So it's not a traditional three act structure,

486
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Speaker 3: its structure, but it's still a story in three parts,

487
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 3: which was you know, open that movie and scare the

488
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 3: hell out of people, get them on board, strap them in,

489
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: give them people that they love, and then just kid

490
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 3: is shit out of everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the writing process of this, and I

492
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Speaker 1: always here to write about what, you know, Like if

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Speaker 1: I were writing a horror movie, I would write about

494
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Speaker 1: like the sleep paralysis, that face when I felt like

495
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: there was like a demon on my chest. But for

496
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Speaker 1: writing a movie like this, like where do you go

497
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Speaker 1: in your mind? Do you like draw from personal experiences?

498
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Speaker 1: Do you have like experiences with any kind of like

499
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Speaker 1: demonic presence? Where do you go?

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Speaker 3: I've got all these cheese grater wounds. And again it's

501
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: actually back to character in a lot of ways, like

502
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: I look to my family and people that I know.

503
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: I'm not a parent, I don't have children, but the

504
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 3: three kids in this movie are kind of loosely based

505
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 3: on my sister's three children, for example, So that that

506
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 3: was a place that I looked in terms of character.

507
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: And then I actually wrote the film during the very

508
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: first COVID lockdown that took place, so I was kind

509
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: of trapped in my apartment, and that really aided me

510
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: in just looking at the basic trappings of domestic life

511
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 3: and how I could kind of use those. So in

512
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 3: a way, I'm still drawing on quite banal things like

513
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: I said, cheese great, or something you use when you're

514
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Speaker 3: making a sandwich or you're making lasagna or whatever it

515
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 3: might be. You know, you drink some wine from a glass,

516
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 3: or you play with a toy er, you use a

517
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: scissors to cut something, and it might seem obvious, but

518
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: I was able to kind of stare at those objects

519
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: and think about ways of using them. So again, I

520
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: just will always lean into what I know. I've always,

521
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Speaker 3: as you know, as a grown up, essentially lived in

522
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Speaker 3: an apartment, so also kind of that context of that

523
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Speaker 3: place of not knowing who's above, who's below, who's left,

524
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Speaker 3: and who's right, and and what might kind of walk

525
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: up the corridor in this strange place because you're in

526
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: your own little island, locked in a box when you

527
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 3: live in an apartment. So all of those things were

528
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: still kind of personal and things that I could lean

529
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Speaker 3: into to just try and draw a little bit of

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Speaker 3: influence out of. Luckily, how haven't faced any real world

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Speaker 3: demonic possessions yet, but you know.

532
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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe for the next movie you get possessed.

533
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to be careful. I don't like,

534
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Speaker 3: you know, research something and dabble with the with the

535
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: wrong juju that then brings something my way that I

536
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Speaker 3: don't want.

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Speaker 1: This movie has one of my favorite just single images

538
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Speaker 1: when Lily Sullivan has the chainsaw. She's covered in blood.

539
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: All you can see is the white of her eyes

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Speaker 1: and the white of her teeth. Did you have to

541
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Speaker 1: fight for the amount of blood used in this movie?

542
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Speaker 2: Not?

543
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Speaker 3: Like not in terms of ambition. One of the biggest

544
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: battles is actually, like, when you use that volume of blood,

545
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: it's pretty expensive. It becomes like a serious budget line

546
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Speaker 3: when you're when you're making a film. So it was

547
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 3: finding the right way of making sure we could we

548
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: could get all the blood right and use all the

549
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: blood the way that we actually like needed to do it.

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Speaker 1: What was the blood budget?

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Speaker 3: I actually couldn't tell you how much we spent on it.

552
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Speaker 3: I can tell you it was. It was around three

553
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 3: thousand gallons I think, so, which is about in you know,

554
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Speaker 3: I'm from Europe, so it's like six and a half

555
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: thousand liters. So it was a lot of blood, but

556
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: the expense of aspect was I made it clear really

557
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: early on that we wouldn't cheat. There was no water

558
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: with red food coloring or using something else in color

559
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: correcting it. It's like, it's got to be movie blood.

560
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: The cast have to suffer in a way, and they

561
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: did when they were drenched in all of that sticky

562
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: stuff that stick skin together, you lose hair, you can't

563
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: walk properly. It's like it's really intense. But it actually

564
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 3: added in a good way to their discomfort because it

565
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: made them feel something very very real, and that was important.

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Speaker 1: That final scene, all the blood coming down the elevator.

567
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: It just made me feel whenever you first make the

568
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: first trailer for this movie and you put that out,

569
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Speaker 1: do you ever worry like this might be a little

570
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Speaker 1: bit too scary for just like the general going like

571
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Speaker 1: movie person.

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00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: There's always that line, you know, because I wanted this

573
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: movie to play to a wide audience, so I guess

574
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: we got it right. But there's of course you ask

575
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: those questions because there are certain people that just go no, no, no, no,

576
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: there's no way I can watch this. But to be fair,

577
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: those people also maybe will struggle to watch it one

578
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 3: way or another, and maybe they want to wait and

579
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 3: watch it at home. They're going to struggle to watch

580
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: it in a room with a bunch of strangers in

581
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: the theater or whatever. But I think you just got

582
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: to put your best foot forward. And the goal of

583
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: the trailer was to make it entertaining and scary. I

584
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: don't think there's a line that's too scary. It's like

585
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 3: it was a comedy. Hey, that trailer was too funny.

586
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: The one thing I was really happy with was the

587
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: trailer showed people a lot, but there was so much

588
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: more to discover. So I remember that you'd always get

589
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: comments and the trailer come out, it's like, oh, I

590
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: hope they haven't shown everything. And I was kind of

591
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 3: rubbing my hands in the background, going, you kind of

592
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: ain't seen nothing yet, because we obviously there's there's quite

593
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: a monstrous conclusion to the film, and nobody had a

594
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 3: clue about that until the film came out, and and

595
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: a lot of other kind of great kills and stuff

596
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: like that. So yeah, I think you've got to make

597
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: it scary. You've got to appeal to as wide an

598
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: audience as you can, but you've got to try and

599
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 3: push it right out to the line as far as

600
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: you can. And again, great team and Warner Brothers. I

601
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: think they you know, and you know, really took it

602
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: to the right place.

603
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I've never been just scared off a

604
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: trailer alone going into a movie, like I felt terrified

605
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: in the theater the first time I watched it. So

606
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: that was awesome. So I thought the movie was great.

607
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 1: Really great time talking to you. I really appreciate it.

608
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Nice to speak to you too.

609
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into a spoiler free movie review. Now

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Disney and Pixar's Elemental which if you're

611
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: a frequent listener of this podcast or if you are new,

612
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: just know that right now, I kind of have a

613
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Speaker 1: love hate relationship with Pixar. And before you say, whoa dude,

614
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: you just turned thirty two, of course you're not gonna

615
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: like a movie geared towards kids. I feel like every

616
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: movie is a piece of art and deserves to be

617
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Speaker 1: able to be commented on. That is what I do.

618
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: I watch and I review movies, whether it's a big

619
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Speaker 1: horror movie, whether it's a high fly in action movie,

620
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: or whether it is a movie primarily geared towards kids.

621
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Speaker 1: I think there should be something for everybody, and every

622
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: piece of art has the right to be discussed, and

623
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Speaker 1: that is what I do on this podcast. So yes,

624
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: it may be a movie geared towards kids, and I

625
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: know I am not the primary demographic for a Pixar

626
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: movie like this, but I a also no what made

627
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Speaker 1: those original movies great, what I was inspired by as

628
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: a kid. Don't have kids myself, but I am speaking

629
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Speaker 1: to ten year old eight year old movie Mike what

630
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: he loved in Pixar movies and what I've seen in

631
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: their trends over time. I just feel like as of late,

632
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: their imagination is kind of fizzled out and they are

633
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: not only retelling the same stories, which I think is fine.

634
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Speaker 1: I think the same stories can be retold so that

635
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Speaker 1: kids now can learn the things I learned as a

636
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Speaker 1: kid with new characters. That is fine, you can do that.

637
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Speaker 1: But Pixar in particular has always been at the cutting

638
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: edge of animation and storytelling, and in the last really

639
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: three years, in all the movies they've come out with

640
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: have it pushed the envelope and they become so much

641
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: more abstract that I'm not really able to grasp on

642
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: to the story, to the characters, and they don't really

643
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: leave a lasting impression that I would have wanted as

644
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Speaker 1: a kid. So that is the perspective I am coming

645
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Speaker 1: from somebody who wants these movies to be as magical.

646
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: Now.

647
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: Maybe they are to some kids, but I really think

648
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: our children deserve better. I'm looking out for the kids, y'all,

649
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: because I know someday my future kids, I want them

650
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: to experience and have a childhood like me when it

651
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: comes to movies, And I don't think it is there

652
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: right now, but I think they can get back. Will

653
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: this be the movie to do it? And I don't

654
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: think so. Elemental was very okay. What the movie is about.

655
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: It revolves around this city where fire, water, land, and

656
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: air all live together. They are all the residents of

657
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: this city. It focuses on a fiery young woman named Ember,

658
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: who represents the fire element and she discovers this go

659
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: with the flow guy named Wade, who represents the water element.

660
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: And Ember is at a point in her life where

661
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: she's struggling with her identity. She works at this store

662
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: that sells a lot of fire things, and it's one

663
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: that her dad built from the ground up. He immigrated

664
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: from another world, had nothing. Was they able to build

665
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: this store, and now, as he is getting older about

666
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: to retire, have her run and operate it. The problem

667
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: is she has never had a successful day at running

668
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: the store, and Ember has a problem with her temper.

669
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: Anytime a customer gets under her skin, she explodes with

670
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: rage and fire goes everywhere. So her dad is telling her, yo,

671
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: you have to chill out. You have to be in

672
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: control of your emotions. You have to deal with these

673
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: customers successfully in order to run the business. So Ember

674
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: is trying to get her emotions under control, essentially failing

675
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: in That leads her to discover Wade, who is a

676
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: safety inspector and through her fit of rage, discovers that

677
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: the shop has so many violations. He reports them to

678
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: his boss and essentially is going to shut down the store.

679
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: So this entire movie is them two working together after

680
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: he realizes how much the store means to her and

681
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: her family, to try and get the store from being condemned.

682
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: So this Pixar movie is very much more a slice

683
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: of life story when it comes to Pixar and the

684
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: movies I tend to enjoy In the Pixar world are

685
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: really big adventures. I think of movies like Up. I

686
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: think of movies like Coco, where this small little character

687
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: goes on a very big journey. This movie was not that,

688
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: but it did what it set out to do very well.

689
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: And this movie really teaches us a similar lesson that

690
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: we got with Zoutopia just less than a decade ago,

691
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: not to judge others based on stereotypes, teaching us acceptance

692
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: and also teaching us to embrace the things that make

693
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: us different and using them to our benefit. And that

694
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: is the lesson we learned through the relationship between Ember

695
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: and Wade. They are fire and water, two elements that

696
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: are not supposed to go together, but they develop this

697
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: not only friendship, but really love throughout the movie, and

698
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 1: that is something different that I wasn't expecting here. Elemental

699
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: really played out like the first pix Our rom com.

700
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: It was these two characters who had every reason to

701
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: not be friends, not be together, but really showing their

702
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: kind of love story and I thought that was kind

703
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: of nice. And through their relationship you also get some

704
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: really good visuals in this movie. What I felt like

705
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: really shine through in this movie was their use of lighting.

706
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: There are some scenes where it's a nighttime city scene,

707
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: but they use almost these neon elements to bring this

708
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: life to this city. I thought that was a really cool,

709
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: fun visual aspect. When it comes to the character designed specifically,

710
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: doesn't really feel like Pixar to me, and I think

711
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: if they did make every single Pixar movie it look

712
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: like the classic animated Pixar style, we know that would

713
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: probably get a little bit boring. It just feels a

714
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: little too abstract for me to grasp onto these characters.

715
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that abstract is bad. If it's

716
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: done well, it can be really effective. But I just

717
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: felt like none of these characters left a lasting impression

718
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: on my mind. I don't really want to see them

719
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: again on a big screen. The other lesson I thought

720
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: was really beneficial to kids in this movie was showing

721
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: you that different people come from different backgrounds. Fire in

722
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: this case comes from a poorer background, comes from nothing,

723
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: which is something I related to. And on the opposite end,

724
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: Wade comes from a more wealthy background and has parents

725
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: who have connections, and it shows you the differences in

726
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: both of their lives and what happens if you bring

727
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: those two people together and how that can kind of

728
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: clash of one person being like I've had to work

729
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: for everything I have in my life and the other

730
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: person essentially having things handed to them, and why sometimes

731
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: that can be unfair to just assume that somebody who

732
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: is rich with parents who have good jobs have essentially

733
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: just had things handed to them and that they haven't

734
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: had any kind of adversity in their life, which isn't

735
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: the case. They also make a commentary with Wade being

736
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: very in touch with us emotions, which is another great

737
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: lesson for kids. It's okay to cry. Isn't had to

738
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: be viewed as a comical thing for somebody just to cry.

739
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: So what I'm getting to is this entire movie just

740
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: felt very safe to me. They didn't really take any chances.

741
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: They didn't really do anything that would make me think

742
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: this is the new Pixar franchise that's going to demand

743
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: an Elemental two and three. Even if that was the plan,

744
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: they didn't really do that with this movie, and within

745
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: the first weekend at the box office it would be

746
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: considered a flop because they spent two hundred million dollars

747
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: on this movie. When everything was said and done, so

748
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: that's not only with the production costs in this movie,

749
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: but also with marketing, which I find kind of crazy

750
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: that they spent that much money on marketing when really

751
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: I felt like they did kind of a bad job

752
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: with it. The trailer itself did not give me a

753
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: sense of the story. The first time I saw the

754
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: Elemental trailer, I wasn't in I had no idea what

755
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: it was going to be about. Didn't really showcase the

756
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: characters to me. So I think think their trailers did

757
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: a bad job selling this movie. But also we've been

758
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: talking about this entire episode movie posters. The movie poster

759
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: was just the water hand and the fire hand wanting

760
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: to touch Again. Doesn't really tell you a whole lot

761
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: about the story. So I feel like the visuals that

762
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: were pretty good in this movie weren't showcased in any

763
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: of the marketing tactics, because in the first three day weekend,

764
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: it ended up having one of the worst Pixar openings

765
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: of all time, making less than thirty million dollars. The

766
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: one Pixar movie to have a worse opening weekend than

767
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: Elemental was Toy Story from Back in the Day, but

768
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: it was a very much different environment for that movie

769
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: because Pixar just wasn't what it is now what it

770
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: was then when the first Pixar movie came out. So

771
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: I would honestly say this leans more towards being the

772
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: worst Pixar opening of all time. And I wasn't going

773
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: to bring this up, but I've seen so many articles

774
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: on it saying the reason this movie flopped is because

775
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: it has a non binary character. Everybody wants to make

776
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: Disney and Pixar movies political, when that is not the case.

777
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: I watched this movie as an adult and I didn't

778
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: even pick up on that. I don't think this movie

779
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: is trying to push any agenda on kids. I really

780
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: think that is the headline meant to sensationalize a non

781
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: issue and get a bunch of people riled up and

782
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: make people not want to go watch this movie. So

783
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: articles like that are really just trying to divide people

784
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: and create this kind of hysteria that Disney is awful

785
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: and Pixar is awful for some political reason. That is

786
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: not the case. So if ever you think I have

787
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: a beef with Disney and Pixar because it's a political reason,

788
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: that is not me at all. My beef comes down

789
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: to the animation, the characters, and the storytelling. So overall,

790
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad movie. I just think

791
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: it's very okay. But you cannot be putting out an

792
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: okay movie in theaters right now when we just had

793
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: one of the best animated movies of all time just

794
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, Spider Man Across the Spider Verse,

795
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: which is such an amazing an artistic movie that pushes

796
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: the envelope, and then you have this movie just kind

797
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: of sitting there, which looks honestly laughable in comparison when

798
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: it comes to the art, and Pixart needs to be

799
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: the one dominating animation. So I really think the reason

800
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: this movie didn't succeed at the box office, and it

801
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: may pick up a little bit of steam, it may

802
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: end up making some of that money back once it

803
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: goes to streaming, once the full numbers come out with

804
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: the international box office as well. But with so many

805
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: great movies coming out right now in the summer, just

806
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: one after another, so many big titles, this one just

807
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: kind of got lumped in there. So I do think

808
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: it's also a victim of the time it came out

809
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: Father's Day weekend. I don't really see a whole lot

810
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: of people rushing to see Elemental. It was maybe just

811
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of dads who got dragged there by accident.

812
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: I also don't know how long family friendly movies like

813
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: this will have success at the box office. When it's

814
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: becoming more and more expensive for a family with three,

815
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: four or five kids to go to the movies, and

816
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: you're already getting them with their Disney Plus subscription. It's

817
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: gonna have to be something really groundbreaking to get most

818
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: people to want to spend their money to go watch

819
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: an okay movie in theaters that they could just wait

820
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: another few months for to watch it home. So maybe

821
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: Disney Plus is kind of shooting itself in the foot

822
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: with having that option. And you think of other movies

823
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: that have had great success on the illumination side, with

824
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: the Super Mario Brothers movie not only being the highest

825
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: grossing animated movie of the year, but at crossing the

826
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: billion dollar mark is just the highest grossing movie overall.

827
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: And look at what they did great. They had a bigger,

828
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: well known cast, they had a much more fun trailer

829
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: movie posters, there were so much more hype around that movie.

830
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: But of course they also had a legacy game, one

831
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: of the most famous video games of all time, probably

832
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: the most iconic video game character we will ever know

833
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: with Mario, so that also had the international interest as well.

834
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: But Illumination also gets to write with the Minions movie

835
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: last year, they had one of the top five highest

836
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 1: grossing movies of the year as well, So maybe Disney

837
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: and Pixar needs to start looking at their competitor who

838
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: was doing so much better when it comes to just

839
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: box office numbers. Are they making better art? No, I

840
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that, but I think they are selling it better,

841
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: and they also aren't splitting it between their streaming service.

842
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: There's much more of a reason to go watch one

843
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: of those movies in theaters than there is to go

844
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: watch a Disney Pixar movie. So I left this movie

845
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: just thinking, well, that was a cute story, but nothing

846
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: I need to write home about, and nothing I think

847
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: you need to go see in theaters. You can really

848
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: just wait for it to come out on Disney Plus.

849
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: So for Elemental, I give it three out of five

850
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: water drops.

851
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: It's time to head down to movie Mike Treylor Paul.

852
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: I did not know what to expect from Craven the Hunter.

853
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: It comes to us from Sony's Spider Verse, who has

854
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: his story? Not made the best Marvel movies, I feel

855
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: like they haven't made anything completely awful aside from Morbius.

856
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: But it's like scratching a niche. I go into a

857
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: Marvel movie wanting an it's to be scratched, and it's

858
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: the best feeling when you have something that just needs

859
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: to be scratched and you scratch it and you feel

860
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: completely satisfied. After going into a Sony Marvel movie is

861
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: like going into a movie knowing that it's not gonna

862
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: fully scratch that itch, you're gonna leave still still need

863
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: in that scratch. That is what these movies have done

864
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: for me. With movies like Venom one and two, which

865
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: I just rewatched for the second time, and as much

866
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: as I love Venom, I just can't fully say that

867
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: those are good movies. But they're not completely bad movies.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like they had everything go okay as

869
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: far as box office numbers, as far as reception, that

870
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: they're not really gonna change a whole lot. But after

871
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 1: the tanking of Morbius, maybe that gave them a little

872
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: bit of a differ perspective. Going into another anti hero story. Essentially,

873
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: these movies are exploring the villains of Spider Man, who

874
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: has the best villains. We'll get into more of that.

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Speaker 1: Craven the Hunter is coming out on October sixth. Before

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00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: I get into my full thoughts, here is just a

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00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: little bit of the trailer.

878
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're show weakness, you will give our enemies.

879
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: And opening shot he is weak like his mother, leave him.

880
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: What happened that day.

881
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: I stared death in the face for the first time,

882
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: I saw my true self. So this movie stars Aaron

883
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: Taylor Johnson, who is our anti hero, who is our

884
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: protagonist in this movie, and he is seeking revenge against

885
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: his father played by Russell Crowe, who essentially in this

886
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: trailer leaves him for dead. He is out on a

887
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: hunting trip with his father. He ends up getting attacked

888
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: by a lion, severely wounding him and in that trailer

889
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: you hear Russell Crowe saying he's weak, saying to leave

890
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: him behind. And in this trailer you essentially see his

891
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: origin story as the blood from the lion drips into

892
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: his wounds, giving him this superability to have almost the

893
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: same powers of a lion, being able to hunt, being

894
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 1: able to kill, being able to attack, and basically move

895
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: around like a lion. So he is the ultimate predator,

896
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: and isn't that the most relatable story of all time?

897
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: The greatest villain ever you have to face is your

898
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: own father, your own flesh and blood. So I think

899
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: the premise of this movie actually sounds pretty good of

900
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: him not only trying to fight this other super villain,

901
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: but that supervillain just happens to be his own father.

902
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: Done dun Dune, So I guess I was expecting this

903
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: movie to have a similar tone as Venom one and two,

904
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: which I feel like with Venom one tried to have

905
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a serious approach. It had

906
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: the R rating, but it also had a little bit

907
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: of comedy, and I feel like after that first movie,

908
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: they decided we should make Venom a little bit more funny,

909
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 1: a little bit more charming, So they really leaned more

910
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: into that in Venom two, which I just didn't like

911
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: as much. So I'm happy to see that in this

912
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: R rated Marvel movie, it looks like they are fully

913
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: dedicating to just being a brutal, vicious action movie and

914
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: not straying away from the blood and violence. And Marvel

915
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: has not only good but great villains, particularly just talking

916
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: about in the Spider Verse, you have Craven the Hunter,

917
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: who I didn't really know a whole lot about before

918
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: this but looks amazing, has a great story. But I'm

919
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: talking villains like doc Och, Rhino, Vulture, Green, Goblin, hob Goblin,

920
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: Venom is my favorite of all time, and I just

921
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: wish that those movies were better. But I'll take it.

922
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: I'll take the Sony Spider Verse doing solo movies on

923
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: all of these villains, which is really what they are owning,

924
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: because Marvel is really split into two categories right now.

925
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 1: You have the Disney MCU side, who just recently got

926
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: the rights back to The Incredible Hulk, but there's always

927
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: been this divide on who has the rights to what characters,

928
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: and on the Sony side, they still have Spider Man

929
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: and all, if not most, of his villains. So that

930
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: is why we are getting more movies like this, And

931
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: so far they haven't made a movie that can compare

932
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: to anything in the MCU. They just have a different tone.

933
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: They don't really have their vision on what they're trying

934
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: to do here, the world they're trying to create I

935
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: thought more Vius was going to connect a little bit

936
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: more with Spider Man, and that's really what they keep

937
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: teasing us with and making us interested, like, oh, we're

938
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: gonna give you a little Spider Man, which we know

939
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: you love. We're gonna give you a little bit of

940
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: Spider Man, and then they kind of take it away

941
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 1: from us and give us just like a quick little

942
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: Easter egg, which is fine. But I just know that

943
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: our rated superhero movies can be great, so I just

944
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: feel like they need to make them better. But in

945
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: that this movie already looks fifty times better than Morbius.

946
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: It has a more serious tone, it's a little bit

947
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: more set in reality, and I think Aaron Taylor Johnson

948
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: looks magnificent and he looks perfectly cast as Craven the Hunter.

949
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: I loved him recently in Bullet Train. I feel like

950
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: kick Ass, which he started, is a very underrated superhero movie,

951
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 1: and he was also great as Quicksilver aka Wanda's brother

952
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: in The Avengers Age of Ultron, So I feel like

953
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: he has the experience and all the qualities I want

954
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: for a lead in this type of movie. So I

955
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: think this could be a step in the right direction

956
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: for Sony. This movie is coming out on October sixth

957
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: this year. After that, they have Madam Webb, which is

958
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: coming out on February sixteenth, twenty twenty four, and then

959
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 1: there's another Venom movie that's supposed to come out next

960
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: year in October, but that's only if everything keeps coming

961
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: out according to plan. And last week, as of now,

962
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: it looks like the Spider Man spinout starring Bad Bunny

963
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: called El Muerto has been taken off of Sony's release schedule,

964
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: and this is probably due to the fact that the

965
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: writer's strike is going on right now and they wanted

966
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: to make some changes to the script, but they don't

967
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: have the ability to do that right now. And then

968
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: you have the star Bad Bunny, who is a global

969
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: music icon right now about to go on tour, only

970
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: has this limited window to get this movie filmed. If

971
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: they're not able to make the changes to the script

972
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: during the writer's strike, he's going to miss out on

973
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: that window because he has to go back out and

974
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: tour the world. So you lose your star. So they

975
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: may shelve this movie, which I was very interested in

976
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: watching because it was supposed to be the first real

977
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: Latino lead character in a Marvel movie, elmerto is also

978
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: an anti hero. He is a Mexican wrestler who in

979
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: the comic books fights Spider Man. I just thought that

980
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: was going to be an interesting, fun movie. I mean,

981
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: there's another connection with Bullet Train because just like Aaron

982
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: Taylor Johnson, Bad Bunny was also in Bullet Train, and

983
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: I was curious to see how he would handle a

984
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: leading role in a movie. So I had a lot

985
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: of my favorite things Bad Bunny, who I'm a fan

986
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: of his music, I'm a fan of him as a person.

987
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: You have a Spider Man villain getting his origin story,

988
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: and then you have the Latino representation, which I was

989
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: excited for. But now it looks like it's been ripped

990
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: away from me. But that's okay. I'm gonna let it go.

991
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let elmertodae much like the meaning of his name.

992
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 2: And that was this week's edition of Movie Lin.

993
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: Tramer Bar And that's gonna do it for another episode

994
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: here of the podcast. Before I go, I gotta give

995
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: my listeners shout out of the week. This week's listener

996
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: shout out comes to you from my Instagram comments on

997
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: my flash review, and it's from Lizzie, who also shared

998
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: her review on the movie, and Liz wrote, it was

999
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: a giant bummer. I had such high hopes, even though

1000
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: Ezra Miller is a trash human. Those hopes were dashed

1001
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: ten minutes into the movie. Once the Hospital Secrets came on,

1002
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't getting any better. Two hours later,

1003
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Speaker 1: I didn't even stay for the end credits. Such a letdown.

1004
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Liz, that opening sequence. Although when

1005
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: I first watched it, I thought, Okay, they're doing something

1006
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: different here, but the CGI in that was so weird

1007
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: and off putting. It gave me this bad taste in

1008
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: my mouth like that I couldn't get out for the

1009
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: rest of the movie. And like you, Liz, I wanted

1010
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: it to get better, and it just never did, even

1011
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: when Michael Keaton came out. And for the first time,

1012
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: it was also hard for me to separate the art

1013
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: from the artist. And Ezra Miller has been accused, has

1014
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: been arrested of some pretty awful things, and I just

1015
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: got a sense that they didn't really take a whole

1016
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: lot of consideration of what they wanted the Flash character

1017
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: to be in this movie, and the message they wanted

1018
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: to convey and the tone they wanted to portray. That

1019
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: I never felt connected with Ezra Miller's Flash, and that

1020
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: is a big part of a superhero movie. I feel

1021
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: like they should have recast the Flash. So that's also

1022
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: how I still feel about this movie. Thank you Liz

1023
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 1: for that comment. You are this week's listener of the week.

1024
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: And oh my gosh, anytime you say anything negative about DC,

1025
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: you get people coming after you. You should have seen

1026
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: my dms and comments this week. People telling me I

1027
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: was dumb, telling me I was hating on a movie

1028
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: just for the sake of hating on a movie, which

1029
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: is not the case for me. If you listen to

1030
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: this podcast, you know in the past I have defended DC.

1031
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: I still get dragged from my Shazam to review because

1032
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: I still think that was a pretty good movie. I

1033
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: enjoyed Shazam two better than Shazam one, and maybe it's

1034
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: because I had low expectations going into that movie that

1035
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun, and the opposite was

1036
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: the situation with the Flash that I had such high

1037
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: expectations that were not met. So I don't go into

1038
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,479
Speaker 1: any DC movie with any kind of agenda I want

1039
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: it to be good. I want to believe in DC,

1040
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: but they just continue to let me down. So I

1041
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: am not one of those people who just has a

1042
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: negative opinion about everything DC and jumps on with everybody else.

1043
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: I don't look at any other reviews before I give

1044
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: my review for that exact reason I don't do it.

1045
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody else to influence me. So just

1046
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: know I always give you my honest opinions, my honest thoughts,

1047
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: and I never expect you to agree with everything I say.

1048
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: I let you know my bias if there ever is one,

1049
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: I will always just give you my truth. So to

1050
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: everyone online, assuming they know who I am from one

1051
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: single clip, much like I do my homework before giving

1052
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: a review, do your homework on me before you leave

1053
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: those dumb comments. And until next time, go out and

1054
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: watch good movies and I will talk to you later