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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Frosted Tips. I'm your guest host Andrea Barber.

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Speaker 2: You may know me as Kimmy Gibbler on full House

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Speaker 2: and Fuller House, and I co host a full House

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Speaker 2: rewatch podcast with Jody Sweeten called How Rude Tanner Ritos.

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Speaker 2: If you know me, you know I have a huge

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Speaker 2: love of boy bands, specifically, I have been a new

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Speaker 2: Kids on the.

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Speaker 3: Block blockhead for thirty five years.

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Speaker 2: But today I'm going to do my best to channel

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Speaker 2: the charm and lovability of Lance Bass as I interview

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Speaker 2: our guests today, the fabulous Lisa Loebe. You all know

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Speaker 2: Lisa as the cute, angsty singer in a little black

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Speaker 2: dress and cat eye glasses in the infamous Stay video.

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Speaker 2: But that was just the beginning of an incredibly eclectic

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Speaker 2: career as a Grammy Award winning musician, actress, voiceover actress,

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Speaker 2: and entrepreneur with her own eyewear line, Naturally and coffee brand.

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Speaker 2: Not to mention, she is just the sweetest and smartest

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Speaker 2: person I've ever had the pleasure to meet and work with.

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Speaker 2: Lisa appeared on two episodes of Fuller House in our

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Speaker 2: fifth season, including our finale where she sang at DJ

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Speaker 2: Stephanie and Kimmy's triple wedding. I cannot wait to talk

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Speaker 2: to her about all of these things. So please welcome

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Speaker 2: Lisa loebe Hey, Hello.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, And am I gonna love your donut?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah this. I have all my Kimmy Gibbler swag

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Speaker 3: behind me.

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Speaker 4: It's so good.

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Speaker 2: I gotta make use of it somehow. So I've just

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Speaker 2: nicked I should have behind me.

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Speaker 4: I should have put my Kimmy Gibbler mug and the

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Speaker 4: purple spandex leotard we had.

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Speaker 3: Wait, you had a Kimmy Gibbler.

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Speaker 4: My daughter dressed up as you one here.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: Halloween.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's incredible. It's all coming back to me.

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Speaker 4: It's coming back to me now too.

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Speaker 3: That's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Right. I hosted a Kimmy Gibbler costume contest every Halloween

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Speaker 2: for ten years. I wish I would have picked her

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Speaker 2: to be a winner, because clearly, you know she's got

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Speaker 2: that Gibbler style.

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Speaker 3: So I love that.

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Speaker 2: Lisa, Thank you so much for joining me today on

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Speaker 2: Frosted Tips. I was so excited when iHeartRadio reached out

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Speaker 2: to me and asked me to be a guest host

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Speaker 2: today and they said you can interview anybody you want, Like,

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Speaker 2: who do you want to interview? And immediately came to mind,

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Speaker 2: Lisa Lobe. Oh, I love that socitm you just you

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Speaker 2: are so sweet and so talented and so smart, and

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Speaker 2: I loved meeting you on the set of Fuller House.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, I just I want to talk to

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Speaker 2: And I've had such a great time diving into your

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Speaker 2: career and just living in Lisa Land all week. It's

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Speaker 2: just incredibly special and so I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, I appreciate it. Let's go back.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the reason why we met in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: your two appearances on Fuller House. I've been so excited

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Speaker 2: to talk to you about this. Your first appearance was

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Speaker 2: on an episode called Five Dates with Kimmy Gibbler, but

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Speaker 2: unfortunately we didn't have any scenes together, which was very

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Speaker 2: disappointing to me.

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Speaker 3: But let's go back to that.

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Speaker 2: You played yourself, but you were a cat owner who

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Speaker 2: was bringing her cat to DJ's veterinary practice to get

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Speaker 2: the cat's teeth cleaned, and then you get roped into

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Speaker 2: hearing Stephanie sing her song for you, and then you

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Speaker 2: invite her to be an opener on your tour, which

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Speaker 2: is fantastic. Why didn't this show go more seasons? Because

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Speaker 2: I would have loved to have seen that, and we

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Speaker 2: definitely would have had you back in future seasons. How

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Speaker 2: did this appearance come up? I know that you went

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Speaker 2: to Brown University and our showrunners are Brown University alumni alumni,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know if you am and they reached

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Speaker 3: This get about?

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Speaker 4: You know, I think that must have been what happened.

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Speaker 4: I did grow up studying acting and doing lots of acting,

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Speaker 4: You know, when you're an actor, you have to audition

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Speaker 4: play it. And I did get more gigs playing and

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Speaker 4: as a child, like I was the child in the

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Speaker 4: And that was At first I was like, no, I'm

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Speaker 4: the way it was just such a great experience and

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Speaker 4: onto different sets. It was like a field trip too

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Speaker 4: to say, hey, this is funny, or hey this is funny.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think Lisa Lobe, even in this version

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Speaker 4: think because of that experience, and also because yes, I

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Speaker 2: Were you nervous to walk onto the set because like

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Speaker 4: I know, it's amazing. It's like an entire world and

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Speaker 2: I agree, I prefer multiicam. I think single cam is

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Speaker 3: Because there's no rehearsal time.

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Speaker 2: And so I love I love sitcoms for that very reason.

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Speaker 2: how it should be. That's how you fine tune your performance.

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Speaker 4: So you find your character, yeah, and you get your

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Speaker 2: that process very much. And I didn't know you were

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I saw. I watched Hankkah on Rye, which

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Speaker 4: Oh, Hanikah, Hanika movie, one of their Hanukah movies, Hallmark

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Speaker 2: You played a character like a music teacher who participates

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Speaker 4: For I did that movie, you know. I had written

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Speaker 4: am trying to make, but I know that it's part

437
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 4: of a larger project that's not my own, and I'll

438
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 4: still fight for what I think is the best choice

439
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 4: for a melody or a lyric, or if I think

440
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 4: they're asking for something that I don't know if it's

441
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 4: a good idea. But that being said, it's a collaborative

442
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 4: process and I also love that especially well, especially when

443
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 4: I'm working with people who are I think are good

444
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 4: at their jobs. It's really fun to work with a

445
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 4: great music supervisor and people who know you know that

446
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 4: they want shorter phrases or more staccato or whatever it is.

447
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: It's I'm sure you've experienced the same thing that when

448
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 4: you're working with people who know what they want you

449
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 4: can you can feel more at ease and trust, trusting.

450
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 4: They have been situations I can't think of any specifically,

451
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 4: but there have definitely been a good number of situations

452
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 4: where you realize, like, the collaboration's not working. I don't

453
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 4: actually really want to wear those clothes that they want

454
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 4: me to wear in that photo shoot, or why did

455
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 4: I do this or that? Or why do they want

456
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: me to change the song? But in these situations where

457
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 4: you literally are writing for something, you know that's part

458
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 4: of the deal.

459
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's what you signed up for.

460
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: But in the back of my mind, I'm always like,

461
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: I wish people would just stay in their lanes. Because

462
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: you hire people based on their professional their professionals. So

463
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: whether it's hair and makeup or you know, musicians or whatever,

464
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, trust these professionals to do what they

465
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: do best. So when we get notes from you know,

466
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: the network or whatever, it's like, Okay, trust and trust

467
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: your people you've hired to make the best choices, but it's.

468
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 4: Hard when you didn't hire them. Like once I did

469
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 4: a Priceline commercial, and I hope the hair and makeup

470
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 4: person isn't listening and being offended by this story, because

471
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 4: but it was literally what happened. I was in this commercial.

472
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 4: It was a two day shoot. It was a big

473
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 4: budget commercial price line with all these different musicians, and

474
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 4: I liked wearing my hair very, very straight. Now in

475
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 4: real life, my hair is really fluffy and frizzy, but

476
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 4: with a great blowout and a quick flat iron, it

477
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 4: looks like it's smooth and straight. So the gal starts

478
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 4: blow drawing my hair and then she's about to start

479
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 4: putting a flat iron through it, but my hair is

480
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 4: still damp. And this is an experienced person, and I'm like,

481
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, but can you We should completely dry

482
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 4: my hair before we put the flat iron. And they're like,

483
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 4: trust me, trust me, I do this all the time.

484
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 4: And it's taking so long and they can't get my

485
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 4: hair straight and they can't get it to look like

486
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 4: the way I look, which is why people have their

487
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 4: own hair and makeup people. But that's, you know, an extravagance.

488
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: And it was the nineties, so it was like thousands

489
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 4: and thousands of dollars. Now, some of us can get

490
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 4: at like a blowout before we go to a red

491
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 4: carpet event and it's you know, seventy five dollars place

492
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 4: or three hundred dollars or one hundred and fifty at

493
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: your house. You'll learn thousands and thousands. And I wasn't

494
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 4: going to hire my own people. And then and then

495
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 4: they barely had time to put on makeup, and then

496
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: the producers and directors are like, you got to get

497
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 4: on stage, We got to go. I'm like I'm not ready.

498
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 4: They're like, you look great. I'm like, I literally don't

499
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 4: have mascara on, oh much less eyelashes, but I can't.

500
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 4: And so I became this kind of pain in the

501
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 4: ass the first day of the shoot. And I didn't

502
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: mean to be. I just I just, you know, needed

503
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: people to do the job that I expected. So I

504
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 4: personally hired my own hair person for the next day

505
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: out of pocket, and in thirty minutes, bam, stick straight hair.

506
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: It was like natural. And then we did the makeup

507
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 4: and we were totally ready to go. But it was like, ah,

508
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: you want to be able to you know, you do

509
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 4: have to keep I think you know this too from

510
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 4: doing this for so long. You keep an eye out

511
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: for yourself as well, and if you're comfortable or not comfortable,

512
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 4: or your eyebrown needs to go the other direction.

513
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: You know yourself best and you try to be your

514
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: vestable And I don't think the sometimes I don't think

515
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: the people producing the commercial or the show or whatever

516
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: quite understand what it's like having to perform when you

517
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable with what you're wearing or your hair, and

518
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: you specifically have such a distinctive style that, yeah, you

519
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: want to feel like yourself or like your character if

520
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: you're acting exactly, and if you're uncomfortable, just it's it

521
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: just throws you for a loop and it's hard mentally

522
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: to get past that. So good for you for hiring

523
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: your own people. You know, it's a bummer you had

524
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: to do it, but yeah, you learn, you learn.

525
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: As you go along the tricks that you have.

526
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 4: To do in your secret flat iron.

527
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know yourself best, so you got to

528
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: you gotta do what you gotta do.

529
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 4: The people in Fuller House, though, were so great. They

530
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 4: hair and makeup, they're garage and my outfit, the wardrobe

531
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 4: they gave me for the wedding was this gorgeous dress,

532
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: and they taught me something. Now I'm remembering. They taught

533
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 4: me two things. One, I got these great this is

534
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 4: very specific naturalizer, really comfortable heels that were platform beige heels,

535
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 4: and they were platforms, so they were comfortable, but they

536
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 4: made me look, you know, super tall. And I started

537
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 4: buying that brand of shoes because they were so comfortable,

538
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 4: but they looked like lady shoes, you know. And then

539
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 4: also I had one of my favorite style of dresses,

540
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 4: which is fit and flare. It's very nineteen fifties or

541
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 4: sixties looking. I love that so wet, it was so cute.

542
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 4: But they and oh my gosh, and the actually you

543
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 4: know what, I brought the dress, but the people who

544
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: are the tailor, the tailor there who'd been at the network,

545
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, perfectly fit the dress first of all.

546
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: But then second of all, added somebody added a belt

547
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: and I had never I don't know why I hadn't

548
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 4: thought of this. They added a belt and it wasn't

549
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: a fancy belt, but on camera it looked really fancy.

550
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 4: And now and then from then on, I started adding

551
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 4: that extra little belt I'm not a big accessories for Sally,

552
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 4: but adding that extra belt, it made my waist look

553
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: so tiny. And then I always put a little like

554
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 4: a what's it called underneath it, like a crinoline, like

555
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: one of those like knife and fifties that'll poof it out,

556
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 4: and then it makes your waist look small because you've

557
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 4: poofed out the rest of it. But that belt, just

558
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: like the extra little things that they did on that show.

559
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: They knew how to make everything look great.

560
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 3: Oh it was.

561
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: It was a gorgeous dress. I was just like, where'd

562
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: you get that dress? Because it was so beautiful.

563
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: Oh, it was just it was.

564
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: That was such a hard day because it was such

565
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: a long day. We had like four am call times.

566
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: We shot for I don't know how many hours. We

567
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: were all emotional because it was the finale of Fuller House.

568
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: It was a very.

569
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: Important episode and a wedding, weddings and a wedding.

570
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah it was.

571
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: It was very stressful and emotional. But I'm so glad

572
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: you got to be a part of it and you were.

573
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: Just yeah, it'd be a fly on the wall there,

574
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 4: I mean, just to be just to be able to

575
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 4: see what was going on. Was really special.

576
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Joey McIntyre was the minister for the wedding,

577
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: and I saw you guys chatting a little bit, you know,

578
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: in between takes, and I'm like, oh, the two the

579
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: two singers are together.

580
00:27:59,440 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 8: You know.

581
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 4: Wow, I got to meet Joey. It was so cute.

582
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: That was your first time meeting him?

583
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was my first time meeting him,

584
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 4: and he was so cute and it was funny. Later

585
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 4: I interviewed him for my Where They Are Now segment

586
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 4: on my radio show on Series XM. But he I

587
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 4: went back and started looking at his videos from when

588
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: he was little, Like I was an age where I

589
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: think I was just a little old for some of

590
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 4: the boy bands. No offense to anybody, but I was

591
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: like a little bit old. And before that, I was

592
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: listening to like alternative music and led Zeppelin and David

593
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 4: Bowie and some other stuff, so I was familiarizing myself

594
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: with their music. But he was such a cute little boy.

595
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: He was a little boy.

596
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: Oh he was. He was twelve when he started and

597
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: it was yeah.

598
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: He was he had like the baby fat on his cheeks, like.

599
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: He was just little shorts.

600
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: He hadn't even hit puberty, yet like that time he

601
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: could hit all those high notes and please don't go girls.

602
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: I was so special, so special to have both.

603
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: Of you on the finale, so I love that, and

604
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: having you on Fuller House was such a natural fit

605
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: for a lot of reasons, but none other than you

606
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: are a singer and songwriter of children's music, and you've

607
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: won a Grammy for one of your albums. What made

608
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: you want to explore music for kids?

609
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. It kind of reminds me of

610
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: Fuller House. Why Fuller House? You know, Fuller House happened

611
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: after full House. I am a really nostalgic person and

612
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: I am so connected with my childhood. When I see

613
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 4: your Kimmy Kibler stuff behind you, I'm like, love, I

614
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: love that you have Kimmi Gibler things, and like they're

615
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: nostalgic things, you know, and they remind you of a

616
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 4: certain time and place. And I started making kids music

617
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: before I had kids, before I even knew really about

618
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: kids or anything. I was just so nostalgic for the

619
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: seventies when I grew up. I mean, even on my

620
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 4: desk in front of me, I have my little dolls

621
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 4: like I've got I'm showing you now a doll thirty

622
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: one flavors basket robinstall from the seventies.

623
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's so cool.

624
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 4: I found the guy in my barbie case from my

625
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: old barbies that I still have. Here's the guy that

626
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 4: goes with the gal Oh thirty one flavors, the original

627
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 4: pink and brown and white colors, which it finally brought back.

628
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: But anyway, I'm a really nostalgic person, and I loved

629
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 4: the entertainment that I enjoyed when I was a kid.

630
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: I loved my record player. I had a little doll

631
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: that was there was a doll that you could buy

632
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: that came with records that would go around and play songs.

633
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 4: I loved my barbies. I loved Free to Be You

634
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 4: and Me this record. I loved Steve Martin and the

635
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 4: early Sesame Street and there was a lot of music

636
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: and storytelling and things were clever and silly and very heartfelt.

637
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: And when I was offered an opportunity to make kids music,

638
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: Barnes and Noble wanted me to make a record that

639
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 4: they would sell exclusively at Barnes and Noble, and they

640
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: thought of the idea of me doing a kid's record,

641
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 4: and it was a great idea because I kind of

642
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: wanted to just recapture my childhood and try out making

643
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: music like that. So I made a record with my

644
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 4: friend Liz Mitchell, who I was in a band with

645
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: in college, also at Brown University. She had made a

646
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: bunch of beautiful children's albums. Her name is Elizabeth Mitchell.

647
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 4: As the children's artist. We made an album called Catch

648
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: the Moon, which was a beautiful children's record. But from

649
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: there then I started making more of that nineteen seventies

650
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: feeling musician records, like the record feel What You Feel

651
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: that I got the Grammy four and it had a

652
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: lot of guests on it, kind of like feel what

653
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: you Like, kind of like Free to Be You and

654
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: Me had like Craig Robinson did a couple songs with

655
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: us and Steve no actually on a different record. Steve

656
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 4: Martin played on my Summer Camp Songs record, but it

657
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: was really children's music for such a long time. Really

658
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: has been a way for me to embrace my nostalgia,

659
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 4: to be to try out different genres of music and

660
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: different types of songs and tell different stories. I have

661
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: a little more knowledge about kids now that my kids

662
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 4: are twelve and fourteen, although now they really want you know,

663
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: they like the grown up music the best. But having

664
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 4: played a lot of children's shows and I started to

665
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 4: get a feel for what kids like. But it's really

666
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 4: a selfish way for me to think about, you know,

667
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: roller scale and rainbows and Teddy Bears in the first

668
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 4: day of school and go back there, and I just

669
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: I like connecting with that and making music in that world.

670
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 4: And like a lot of other children's artists, it's really

671
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: important to make music that just sounds like music. It

672
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: sounds like grown up music. There's no difference between grown

673
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: up in children's music. It's all done with intention and

674
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: to the best of our abilities. So a lot of

675
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 4: my friends who make children's music, they just make these

676
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: beautiful records that are family friendly. And they might be

677
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: silly or funny or kitchy. They may be dreamy or

678
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: you know, it can be a lot of different genres

679
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: and areas and styles of music to explore.

680
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you have such a melodic voice and such

681
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: a calming voice and presence, like it's almost asmr.

682
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: It's just very calming.

683
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: And so I can see why children are drawn to

684
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: your music because it's just so wonderful to listen to.

685
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: And then there's these messages like feel what you feel

686
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: is all about owning your feelings and respecting your feelings.

687
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: I think that's a great message to send to kids

688
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: as well. So this is a very well deserved Grammy

689
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: that you wont tell me?

690
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: What was that like?

691
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: Like, what is it like winning a Grammy? Like I

692
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: will I will never be in this position, So tell me.

693
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: I was so exciting. You know, when I was a kid,

694
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: I did watch the Grammys on TV. I remember like

695
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: the hippie those hippies like Fleetwood Mac getting up there.

696
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: I feel like people weren't wearing shoes, and they had

697
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: feathers hanging from their ears and all these great outfits,

698
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: you know, the Sonny and Share era. So I always

699
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 4: respected a Grammy. I thought it was really neat. As

700
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: I've gotten older and done this for a long time,

701
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a cherry on top. It's it's

702
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: really nice to be recognized by my peers. I have

703
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: so many friends and family members who have not yet

704
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: won a Grammy there, but I still, you know, I

705
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: don't think of the Grammy as being like this must

706
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: be the best music ever, But I also still at

707
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 4: the same time really really respected and I really appreciate

708
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: the community of the folks who participate music, music, music education,

709
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: the rights for music, people who write music and perform

710
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: music to actually make a living doing that. Those are

711
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 4: all things that there's a lot of advocacy through the Grammy.

712
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 4: So it was nice to be in that community. But

713
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: it was I like really stepped it up. I had

714
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: a real good stylist who got me a really amazing dress.

715
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: It was so much structure, it could stand on its own.

716
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: It was like I had never really worn a lot

717
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 4: of gowns, Like even when I'd been to the Grammys before,

718
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: I wore like cool little mini dresses or I never

719
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 4: really got into the whole like gown thing. I never

720
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 4: did that. So I had like a makeup artist and

721
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: a hair stylist and a gown, and.

722
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: Oh they knocked it out of the park and.

723
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 4: It was really nice. And I went to all the

724
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: parties and I had a different gown for each party

725
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 4: for the different nights. And then winning the Grammy, I

726
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: was I was also especially dressed up because I was

727
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 4: one of the presenters in the non televised and the

728
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 4: there's a ton of Grammys that get that are given

729
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: out in a segment that's not televised, including the Children's

730
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 4: Music Grammy, and a lot of the classical music and

731
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: a lot of the music most of the music is

732
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 4: the awards are given out in the non televised parts.

733
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 4: But I was so dressed up because I was presenting.

734
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 4: But when they called my name, I was like, ah,

735
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: Like my whole body was shaking. I was, and I

736
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 4: did have a piece of paper because I wanted to

737
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 4: thank all the people because there were so many people

738
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 4: who collaborated on the record, and also people like babysitters

739
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 4: who had helped to make it possible to go work

740
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 4: so important.

741
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: I love that you acknowledged your sitters, that your village

742
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: that helped you take care of the kids while because

743
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: somebody's got to watch them while moms making music.

744
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 4: I know, And honestly it's usually the moms. No offense

745
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: to dads, but like in charge of the household and

746
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: the kids and that everything's really all we get to

747
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 4: fill out CEO, you know. So but it was really

748
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 4: exciting and it and after having won the Grammy, it

749
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: just it's a nice ex Like I said, it's a

750
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: cherry on. It's nice. It's you know, as an entertainer,

751
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: as a musician at all, there's often like, oh, what

752
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 4: are you working on? Oh, I'm working on a new album,

753
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 4: and everybody's like yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm working

754
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 4: on this new idea, I'm writing this thing. Uh huh. Yeah.

755
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 4: But when you when all of a sudden, when you

756
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 4: put Grammy winning in front of it, people really buy

757
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: into it, you know, They're like, oh, yeah, this is

758
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 4: actually happening. I don't know if you've experienced that at

759
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 4: all with labels.

760
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: You know, I know what you mean. I know what

761
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: you mean.

762
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: It's like you're like, I haven't changed. I'm still me.

763
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: I'm writing what I love. But you just have the

764
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: public recognition, which is nice.

765
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: But you're like, I'm still me.

766
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah that's exactly, And people.

767
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: Perceive it differently.

768
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: It's an acceptance in a weird way because you don't

769
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: need an award to.

770
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: Be the best you.

771
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 4: But exactly, but it.

772
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: Matters to other people, I guess, is what I'm.

773
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: Trying to say. It really does, and even you know,

774
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: getting I still play a lot of concerts, both grown

775
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: up concerts and kids concerts, and I do, even as

776
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: an audience member myself. If I haven't heard of someone.

777
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 4: If I thought if it said Grammy winning, I'd be like, oh, well,

778
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: that might be really good, you know, like it's a

779
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: good seal of approval. But it's not. It's it's you

780
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 4: know again, like I, it's exactly what you said, You're

781
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: still you.

782
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 9: So yeah, if you watch Dancing with the Stars, I.

783
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 7: Can say this, and Karna will probably say the same thing.

784
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that we had great dancing chemistry.

785
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: Then you need to be listening to sex lies and

786
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: spray tead.

787
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: My partner Ardam, he was so intense that meaning really nervous.

788
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 4: With Ceryl buck Ededa didn't wear a lot of clothes.

789
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: No, she was.

790
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: She did super ankles warm.

791
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 9: Get the behind the scenes of what goes down on

792
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 9: and off the dance floor.

793
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 8: Dancing with the Stars breaths body image issues for women.

794
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: The thinner you are, the more attention you end up

795
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: getting on that show.

796
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 9: Injuries my full wings, Hey Christian, suppose yeah, I saw

797
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 9: you're dancing with the start.

798
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: I saw what happened to your arm, and I have

799
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: the perfect guy to fix it.

800
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 8: Fleeing honestly got to the player.

801
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm just trying to survive again.

802
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to like make it out out of

803
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 3: this season.

804
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 4: Ego, she wanted to kill me. It was real bad

805
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 4: insecurity on the show.

806
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: It was like everyone was talking about my weight and

807
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: it really affected my confidence so much.

808
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: For like years to come and betrayals.

809
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: Because of that one betrayal, I knew this is probably

810
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 5: my last season.

811
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 9: Listen to Sex Lies and Spray Sands with Ceryl Burke.

812
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 9: New episodes every Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

813
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: My name is Cheryl Burke, and I approved this message.

814
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: Are your kids impressed by your career or are they

815
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: like my kids where they're totally disinterested in anything I

816
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: do professionally?

817
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: Because Americans now, how old are they now?

818
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: They're older.

819
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: I have a twenty year old son and a seventeen

820
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: year old old daughter, and so yeah, they're just they're

821
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: the teenagers. There's like, you know, mom, you're embarrassing. What's

822
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: my curfew? Like that's all the y what's for dinner?

823
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: And what's my curfew? That's the only thing they care about.

824
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: You're the mainest mom. Why we're the only ones who

825
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: can't have this or that? Yeah, I forgot do you

826
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 4: live I live in Los Angeles, I'm.

827
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 2: In Orange County or actually no, I just moved, so yeah,

828
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm in La County now closer, closer south.

829
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 4: I think that's part of it, is that I am

830
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: constantly using the word it's all relative, because you know,

831
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 4: my son was with me recently. He went on tour

832
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 4: with me for a little bit of the summer, which

833
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 4: was really fun. We got to go to Omaha, Nebraska

834
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: and like Okoboji, Iowa, and all these different places that

835
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 4: we haven't had an opportunity to go to, and definitely

836
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 4: he hasn't. And but you know, we went through TSA

837
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: at one of the airports, and this very stern, you know,

838
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 4: tough looking gal saw my id and looked up and

839
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: I was wearing a mask, probably took my mask down,

840
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 4: and she almost started crying, and she was just so

841
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 4: excited to meet me. She's like, oh, I'm such a

842
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 4: big fan. And my son kind of looked at her

843
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 4: and looked at me, and he had a moment of like, oh,

844
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 4: some people know who she is, you know, like you know,

845
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: they've seen a couple of concerts. But those moments are

846
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 4: very special when somebody really has a connection and they

847
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 4: get to see that, or when they're at a concert

848
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: and they hear people singing along. But it is very relative.

849
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 4: You know, we're at schools and in a community where

850
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 4: there's all different people in our community, writers, musicians, people

851
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: who work for the government, teachers, lawyers, mom's dads, you

852
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 4: name it. But there are also, yes, a lot of

853
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 4: actors and musicians, and some who are the most successful

854
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: musicians and the most successful actors, and they're just there.

855
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 4: So it's like, well, so and so is on a

856
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 4: private jet, or so and so is playing in that arena.

857
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: You know, you're playing in a theater for four hundred people.

858
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: So it's it's all very relative, right, you know. And

859
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 4: then sometimes when I think my daughter, who's fourteen and

860
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: a half, she's really I think getting a little bit

861
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: more in tune with the fact that, you know, you're

862
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: not just a singer who might have had a song

863
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: on the radio. You actually, like, I actually am writing songs,

864
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 4: like and there's like this whole process and this whole

865
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 4: dream and this whole magic of going into a room

866
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 4: and writing a song and ideas and the start to

867
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 4: finish and then all the stuff that goes around it,

868
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 4: like you know, making artwork for the working with the artwork,

869
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: the videos, directing the videos, getting the wardrobe together, and

870
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: it's all very hands on. It always has been. I've

871
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: got great collaborators, but it's it's a very hands on process.

872
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 4: So for them to see the reality of it in

873
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 4: a way, it gets even more appreciation. It also takes

874
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: away some of the magic, but it is also magical,

875
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: you know, like I think, and having the opportunities like

876
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 4: being on not to bring it back to Fuller House again,

877
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 4: but being able to go to Fuller House, like wow,

878
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 4: you have access to go do things that like you know,

879
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: I know myself, when I was a kid, I would

880
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: only dream of, like wow, to be an actor, to

881
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 4: be in a professional place with all these people who

882
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 4: know what they're doing in a successful project.

883
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 6: You know.

884
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: They they they're around that all the time. My husband

885
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: works in TV also, and so they've been around it

886
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: since they were kids. But for them to understand that

887
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 4: it's it is still exciting and special, Like I love it.

888
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so glad that your son got to go

889
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: on tour with you, because I think it's so important

890
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: for kids to see their parents in their workplace and

891
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 2: what they do. And for me, that happened when you know,

892
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: when Fuller House started because I stopped acting for ten years,

893
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: so I was a child actor, took a long break,

894
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 2: raised my kids as toddlers, and then started Fuller House.

895
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: And that once my kids started coming to the set

896
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: with me, that's when they were like, Oh, this is

897
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: actual work, Like you don't just go play make believe

898
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: like go you know, and.

899
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 4: You don't just appear on TV like looking like that.

900
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: There's seven fittings for that sweatshirt, and you have to

901
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 4: learn your lines, and you have to get your blocking,

902
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 4: and there's.

903
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: Well and not just my not just my profession, but

904
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: it takes two hundred people to make a sitcom. And

905
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: so they were just blown away by just how much

906
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: work it is, not just for me, but for the

907
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: whole team that's involved in making a sitcom. So I

908
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: think that's when the respect came. Like first there was

909
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 2: my mom is so embarrassing, she's Kimi Giller, She's wearing

910
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: these crazy outfits. But once they came to set with me,

911
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: they were just like, wow, mom, this is really cool.

912
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: And then they became friends with the with the child

913
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: actors on set and hung out together and it was

914
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: just a very full circle moment for me. And that's

915
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: so cool, really glad that they got to be a

916
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: part of that. So I can appreciate your kids getting

917
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: to watch you do what you do best.

918
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: I think it's interesting too, though, when you're when you're

919
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 4: when you have a job and you're a human, like

920
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: we've gotten to be humans because we get to keep

921
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 4: our jobs or and you took a break and you

922
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 4: you know from that particular job that you're a human.

923
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: And that's that's often interesting too, that that going between

924
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 4: being a mom and also a human. But also sometimes

925
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 4: you're really in full mom mode, you know, like you're

926
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: fully like cleaning the countertop and trying to get the

927
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 4: kids to go to sleep on time, and wrap up

928
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: the food and get the pets fed, and you're true

929
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 4: in that mode. And then you know, you take your

930
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 4: kids to see a concert or go to a TV

931
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: show or whatever, and it's you're you're still in mom mode.

932
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 4: But then you're yourself, and sometimes the kids get embarrassing

933
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 4: you be a human. I think that can be embarrassing.

934
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: They're like, oh, Mom, don't wear that shirt.

935
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: You know it's funny what they find embarrassing And I'm like,

936
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: really like no you like you guys have no idea,

937
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: Like nobody is looking at you as carefully as you

938
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: are looking at yourself. So it's really not embarrassing my

939
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: outfits with the Kimmy Gibbler outfits, you got to own it,

940
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: you know, totally, and you don't feel embarrassed, just to be.

941
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, this is me, this.

942
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 4: Is And also because you do that, I mean, because

943
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: of that character, it makes it more you know, it

944
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 4: makes it more regular for people to be themselves. And

945
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: that's just so so important. I think it's such a

946
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 4: big message.

947
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask about your eyewear line because

948
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm forty eight. I just started wearing readers this year,

949
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: because that's it's unavoidable, and so talk to me about

950
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: I think I know why you started an eyewear line

951
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: because your glasses are so iconic. But what is that like,

952
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: starting the line and designing the glasses. And my next

953
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: question after this is going to be what do you

954
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 2: recommend for me? Because I'm headed to cost so right

955
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 2: after this to pick.

956
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: Out a pair of forces.

957
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 4: Well, first let's go backwards. First of all, when you

958
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 4: go to Costco. I do have my frames or at

959
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: Costco and some mom and pop stores and online. Lisa

960
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 4: lob By wear nice fine glasses that fit you. I

961
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 4: always like a lift on people. I'd have to see

962
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: you in different glasses. But since you have blonde hair,

963
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you can wear black glasses. You can

964
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: wear dark glasses. What's also pretty? Because you've got light eyes,

965
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 4: you might want to find either a metal or a

966
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 4: tortoise that lets light through the materials themselves. Oh okay,

967
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 4: but still provide some structure because you're you're fair and

968
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 4: you've got blond hair. But the classes you're gonna look

969
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 4: cute on you, I would have to I would love

970
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: to go see them on you and see what you're

971
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: gonna wear. It was funny getting an eyewear line. You know,

972
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 4: at first, when I first started out and had some

973
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: songs on the radio, I used to people would always

974
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: I'd go on the radio and things that I thought

975
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 4: were like important, and I was I was a musician

976
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: and a songwriter and a guitarist. And then the first

977
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 4: thing people would ask me were was It wasn't usually

978
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 4: even a question. It was just like the glasses and

979
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 4: ask thank you, yeah, and I was so sort of about

980
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: my talent, I know, I was like, I was like,

981
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: why are they asking me about my glasses. That being said,

982
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 4: when I was growing up, I started wearing glasses. I

983
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 4: think in about six or seventh grade. I thought it

984
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: was eighth, but I saw some pictures of myself recently

985
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 4: and it might have been seventh or sixth I always

986
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 4: wanted glasses because my best friend had them since she

987
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 4: was little, so I always thought they were cool. I

988
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 4: never associated with them as being like a bad thing,

989
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 4: and then I thought they were. Being a kid of

990
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: the eighties, I would get glasses that were like alternative

991
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: and new wave and weird, and they weren't always cute

992
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 4: looking on me, but they were so fun to buy

993
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 4: and look at, and little by little I found myself

994
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 4: with more of a cat eye frame because it was flattering,

995
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 4: slightly kitchy. I try not to go to grandma too point,

996
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 4: but I've always loved glasses and they've been important to me,

997
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: and I'm very practical. I think it's so important to

998
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: be able to see if you need glasses wearing glasses, Like,

999
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 4: don't be one of these people who are like I

1000
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 4: can't see anything because I wanted to look pretty because

1001
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm not worrying my glasses. But I'm at an event,

1002
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, what that doesn't you know, practicality always comes first.

1003
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 4: So it did make sense along the way when I

1004
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: finally did get an opportunity to have an eyewear line,

1005
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 4: to do it, because at first I rejected it. I'm like,

1006
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: think about my music, not my glasses. Yeah, And then

1007
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 4: I started thinking, you know, I'm a huge fan of

1008
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 4: Elton John and David Bowie and oh yeah, Queen and

1009
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 4: Dolly Parton and all these people share who are known

1010
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 4: for their looks and their signature looks, which they have

1011
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: a lot of fun with, but they're also known seriously

1012
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 4: for their music. So it's not an either or, And

1013
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 4: so I finally came to terms with that and also realized,

1014
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 4: just like I was saying about your character and your show,

1015
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 4: people looked up to me. Little kids would say, you know,

1016
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 4: moms would say, my daughter wears her glasses because you

1017
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 4: wear your glasses on TV. Or I wear glasses and

1018
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 4: feel comfortable in them, even though I used to feel

1019
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: shy about wearing them. Now I wear them and I'm

1020
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: proud to wear them. So that empowerment and the fact

1021
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 4: that they can see, you know, I thought that would

1022
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: be a great reason to have an eyewear line. And

1023
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: I do have a professional designer who designs the frames,

1024
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 4: but I do have regular meetings with them at my

1025
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: kitchen table where we go through all the frames, we

1026
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 4: go through the materials, we talk about what we like,

1027
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 4: what we don't like, different adjustments that need to be

1028
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 4: made to get the glasses and the frames to be

1029
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 4: where they want to be. So I'm lucky to get

1030
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: to be a collaborator in that process as well.

1031
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: I just got chills, like that was such a meaningful answer,

1032
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 2: and I didn't know what you would say. I didn't

1033
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: be like, well, I just wanted more cash, so I

1034
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: thought I do felt.

1035
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 4: More cash as a mom.

1036
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: But to talk about empower making, helping people feel empowered

1037
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: with an accessory or what you know, whatever it is,

1038
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: I think that is just a lovely, wonderful reason to

1039
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: have an eyeray line.

1040
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: That's that's great And I.

1041
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: Can't wait to have my own pair of Lisa Lobe glasses.

1042
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, it's funny when you do so many

1043
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: different things, and I know both of us do a

1044
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 4: lot of different things, and definitely making a living is important.

1045
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: It makes life easier and it makes it so that

1046
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: you have the freedom to do what you want. But

1047
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: when I'm trying to choose what I like early on

1048
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 4: and then in the late nineties, I really took a

1049
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: minute to figure out, like why am I being a musician?

1050
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 4: Because there was a lot of time putting on makeup

1051
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 4: and hair and all that stuff, the vanity stuff that's

1052
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 4: just it can be really tough ireso and clothes and whatever.

1053
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 4: But I'm from Dallas, so I wanted to look nice

1054
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: or look whatever, like something, And I real I took

1055
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 4: a step back, and you know, even thinking about what

1056
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 4: other jobs do I want? What do I want to

1057
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 4: do when I grow up? Even though I already was

1058
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 4: doing something, I realized I found the value of Yeah,

1059
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: that connection with people and being able to hear what

1060
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 4: people have to say about their own lives, being able

1061
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 4: to communicate, hang out with other people, relate to other people.

1062
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: When you start looking at the values behind the opportunities

1063
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 4: you get or that you create for yourself, it makes

1064
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 4: everything so much more enjoyable and it makes it so

1065
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 4: much easier to understand what to focus on, so that

1066
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: was one of the reasons that you know, it's easy.

1067
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, you know what this fits right

1068
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 4: in having an eyewear line or continuing to make music.

1069
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: I get to meet people and go do things and

1070
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 4: travel and it's really great.

1071
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: Oh, you're such a great role model, and you're just

1072
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 2: You're such a great friend and role model in person,

1073
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 2: and I'm so glad that we got this opportunity to talk.

1074
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: I have so many other questions for you, but I

1075
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: have to wrap this up. Are there any upcoming projects

1076
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: that you want to tell.

1077
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 3: Us about or you want to plug?

1078
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 4: But I will plug a brand new record I have

1079
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: that came out a few weeks ago. Came out meaning digitally,

1080
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 4: and also you can go to my Lisa Lobe official

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Speaker 4: YouTube channel and subscribe. My kids want me to have

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Speaker 4: more frewers. Subscribe, subscribe and like. But we have brand

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Speaker 4: new videos on there. It's an album called That's what

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Speaker 4: It's All About. I made it with a band called

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Speaker 4: The Hollow Trees, which is a really cute and kitchy

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Speaker 4: and authentic old timey band. We collaborated on this record

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Speaker 4: of a bunch of songs that I listened to growing

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Speaker 4: up with my parents and grandparents, like if I knew

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Speaker 4: you were coming, I to bake a cake or Marsy dotes.

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Speaker 4: There's a song called the doodle In Song which I

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Speaker 4: do a tap dance solo on which you have to

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Speaker 4: check out. It's not a very you know, super complicated,

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Speaker 4: but I do wings, which is a hard thing to do.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, that record is just out and it's family friendly.

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Speaker 4: Some might say for children, but also it's for your

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Speaker 4: grandparents and for you, and it's called That's what it's

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Speaker 4: all about. So as you know that Hokey Pokey's on

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Speaker 4: the record as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, I'm going to download this on my way

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Speaker 2: to Costco to go get my Lisa Lope glasses.

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Speaker 4: Yes, definitely do listen to it.

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Speaker 3: I feel very complete.

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Speaker 2: That is so wonderful and I am so appreciative again

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Speaker 2: of your time that you've given me today. And what

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Speaker 2: an honor to be able to talk to you and

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Speaker 2: learn more about you and your wonderful career and you're

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Speaker 2: just very special to me. So thank you for doing this.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Good to see you, hey.

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Speaker 4: Follow us on Instagram at Frosted Tips.

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