WEBVTT - Will the Texas Border Confrontation Cause A Civil War? (No) 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:07.960 Al Zone Media, welcome back to It Could Happen Here, 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.920 a podcast about it happening here. And in the original 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:17.239 cadence of this website or website, in the original cadence 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.160 of the show, that was a reference to a civil war, right, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.680 a new civil war, It could happen here. That's what 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:26.040 Season one was made a big splash. Now, we kind 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.040 of covered the dystopia beat in general, but today we're 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:33.840 getting back to our mother fucking roots because the state 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.239 of Texas has recently declared a big old fuck you 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:41.880 to the federal government r having its National guardsmen deploy 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.640 razor wire at the border and stop border patrol people from, 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.680 for example, performing rescues of people who are trapped in 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.840 the water drowning. It's a whole thing. At least three 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.880 migrants have already died as a result of this fuckery 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.240 by Texas Governor Greg Abbott, and now, like, I don't know, 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.480 twenty states something near to that have There may be 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.760 more by the time you hear this, but something like 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.640 twenty states have declared that they're in support of Governor 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:12.640 Abbott's refusal to let the Feds in and insistence that 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.440 he's dealing with an invasion and must take on the 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.319 border texas'self, and some of those states are now sending 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.720 or at least claim they're going to send national guardsmen. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.800 So when this all started happening, we all got a 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.120 lot of messages. I got about a billion from people 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.040 being like, is this it? Is this the civil war? 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.840 And obviously a big chuck of that comes from right 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.920 wing memes because they are all talking about like, yeah, 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:37.840 let's do it, Let's have us a civil war. We're 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.520 all going to start fighting over some guy posted his 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.760 handgun collection like we're ready. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:44.520 A bunch of revolvers. 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.560 Yeah, stupid shit, It's stupid shit, But you know, it's 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.560 not unreasonable to be like, this seems like a massive 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.880 constitutional crisis that's potentially in line with some of the 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:59.600 crises that precipitated the original Civil War. You've got a 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:03.240 governor completely defying not now not just you know, the 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.040 president and the federal government, but the Supreme Court who 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.680 ruled that you can't just have your fucking Texas goons 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.040 stop a federal law enforcement agency from doing its job 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.440 on the border. So you know, how serious is this 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.320 and is this the kind of thing that's going to 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.400 lead to a twenty four's New Civil War movie, and 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:27.359 my quick take on this is no, probably not. I 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:31.000 think what this is is in fact, a governor stretching 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.720 out his authority and testing how much he can get 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:38.320 away with against the overall federal government, because he and 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.360 a lot of other conservative governors want to do things 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.040 that are directly in contravention of the Civil Rights Act, 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.360 of the Bill of Rights, of numerous federal protections for 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.160 their citizens. And this is kind of a way of 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.200 being like, well, if they won't fuck with us over this, 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.400 then we can probably start imprisoning journalists and you know, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.760 killing people that or at least imprisoning people that otherwise 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.560 we would not be able to write like this is 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.239 a right wing power grab, and it's an attempt to 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.840 see is the central government weak enough that we can 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.120 get away with this stuff. I don't think they're all 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.000 going to start shooting at each other. I don't think 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.239 Greg abbott is wants to get in the shooting war 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:21.720 with the federal government over Mostly the dimensions of the 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.160 crisis are gend up and fake in terms of what 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:25.720 he is claiming it is. There is, in fact the 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.400 humanitarian crisis at our border, but that's not what his 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.799 issue is. So that's my quick take. We're going to 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.840 get into more of all of that. But James, you 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:37.040 are our resident border correspondent correspondent, and you have some 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.280 very strong feelings on how all of this has been 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.520 interpreted in the media. So I wanted to pull to 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.040 you first and then we'll get to Mia and we'll 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.440 just kind of roundtable after that. 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.640 I do, in a rare instance for me, I have 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.720 strong feelings about the way this has been covered, and 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.120 strong feelings about the coverage of the border, which I 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:54.640 know is a thing I talk about all the time, 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.440 but I am beyond frustrated with the way this has 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.760 been covered. It's hugely a respond table and it's completely 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.400 context free. Like there are people, as there always are 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.360 with the border, and there always are with the right, 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.280 who just tourists outside things that they understand and try 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.120 and generate clicks by geeing up the fear of a 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:18.120 civil war. And yes, I've seen dozens of people sharing 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.480 headlines about national Guard deployments. So happened years ago. The 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.000 National Guard have been deployed to our border for years. 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:28.120 I see national Guard troops every day. I had a 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.880 National Guard guy shooting me and shoot at me, shout 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:31.120 at me. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.760 A friend of ours took one of their rifles. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:39.880 Yes, yes, the National Guard have been extremely based in 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:45.960 arming the Butterfly Center. Yeah, they they're there. There's a 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.479 federal deployment. Texas also has a state deployment. These are 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:49.479 different things, and. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.919 Other states have also sent National guardsmen to the border before. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.159 By the correct that is not the first time this 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:55.640 has happened. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.800 Yeah. Yeah, So there's a federal deployment and then there 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.760 are state deployments, both of those distinct things. Something to 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.240 know about the state deployment that is missing in the 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.080 context free reporting that you're seeing is that these guys 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.760 aren't getting any of their federal deployment benefits. So they 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.480 won't be getting the tricare, they won't be getting the 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.719 time towards their retirement, they won't be getting their GI bill, etc. So, 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.799 like the Texas guys who are deployed on state orders 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:25.360 are really the National Guard are getting barked by Greg 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:30.159 Abbott like it's laughable that that, like, you know, he's 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.479 pretending that he cares about Texas while actively screwing over 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.080 and Rober and I have spoken to some of those 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.400 Texas National Guard folks last time we were in Texas 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.839 did not seem to be super motivated to be They're 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.040 the only military unit i've seen tried to form a 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.279 union because they're not in a federal they're not in 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:46.880 a federal orders, so they're going to attempt to form 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:47.320 a union. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.360 Get Billy bragged down to the border. We got to 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:55.000 do this. Yeah, let's get Billy back. I'll get him 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:55.440 going over. 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:59.480 The Rio Grande and Billy Bragg and they'll fix it. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.760 And it has been the most dangerous deployment that they've had, 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:07.000 including deployment to a rug They they have, unfortunately a 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.559 habit of drinking and driving, which has not proven healthy 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.279 for them. They also there's a quirk of Texas law 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:16.560 that means that they can't stop National Guard soldiers from 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.160 bringing their own firearms. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:19.960 Yeah, which is great. Yeah. 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.599 Yeah, and the US they can't stop them accidentally killing 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.599 each other with their own firearms. Also, Yeah, it's good stuff. 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:30.160 A TNG soldier did die trying to save a migrant 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.080 from the river. Yes, he drowned. So like it has 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:38.000 not like it is very boring, but also quite dangerous 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.560 deployment that you know, they have really high. They wrote 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.440 a manifesto a couple of years ago about how bullshit 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:44.440 their deployment was. 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.120 You know which is which is really great? To death? Yeah. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:52.800 So much of this has been reported without any context, right, Like, 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:54.600 I think genuinely a lot of the people reporting on 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.720 this are not aware there have been national their National 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.560 Guard here in California. Like I say, I see them 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.120 all the time. They're not supposed to interdict migrants, but 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.520 I see them doing surveillance, and I see them guarding 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.279 open air prisons in Hiccumba almost every day. And I 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.560 think that seems to have been missed by the majority 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:12.120 of people covering this. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.080 We should talk more about the open air prison part, 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.360 because I think there's a lot of people who seem 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.320 to be getting the impression that the Biden administration is 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:26.400 like actually substantively trying to do something to help immigrants, 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.920 and like they're like this fight is like between like 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.640 pro and anti immigration. It's like, no, there is a 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.720 fight between whether you think these people should be killed 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.160 incredibly quickly by a combination of razor wire and rivers, 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.120 or whether you think they should starve the death. 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.280 Yeah or die of dehydrat should walk through the desert 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.760 would die of hypothermia walking through the mountains. Like I 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.320 I think I've said some in the podcast before, but 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.160 I was helping a three year old girl who is 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.360 hypothermic last week, and like, that is what Joe Biden 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.760 is doing. That is a Joe Biden policy being enacted 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.400 by Joe Biden as Joe Biden wants it to be 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.520 an acted, or at very least. Yeah, I'm sure his 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:03.720 personal like complicity or even understanding is relatively low. Given 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.640 his understanding, it seems of a lot of things. But 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.040 the Biden administration's policy is to deter people by making 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.560 crossing more difficult and more dangerous, which de facto makes 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.920 it more deadly. What Abbot is doing with his razor 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.800 wire and his floating fence is a version of the 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.560 same thing. Like they are not distinctly different. When everyone 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.360 was up and now it's about the three people drowning. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.360 That's a tragedy. At eight hundred and fifty people died 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.840 crossing the border in twenty twenty two, that was a 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:38.960 normal day. Like the distinction is maybe in degree, but 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.640 really it's an aesthetic between Abbott and Biden on this, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.920 and it's just two dudes chest stump each other trying 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.400 to not look weak. There is not an option in 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.000 the US system which allows you to vote for the 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.640 party that doesn't want migrants to die like that. Both 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.920 of the parties are completely in lockstep on that. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.160 And let's let's be very clear about something. Part of 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.640 why that is is because an overwhelming number of Americans 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.679 are indifferent or actively hostile to the survival of migrants. Yes, like, 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.880 this is an It is incredibly unpopular in this country 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.920 to think these people are human beings who deserve decent 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.760 treatment in decent lives. This is a fight that the 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.840 left has lost comprehensively, mostly in large part because the 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.880 left has completely given up on it, which is why 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.679 you've got fucking a lot of these nasbol assholes saying 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.559 shit like you know this is we have like saying 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.280 basically protectionist, nativist kind of shit these yes, right, because. 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.760 I think that like leftist media has also and to 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.120 include I guess liberal media also has completely oh yeah, 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.520 like being complicit in this, right, Like, the amount of 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.200 stories that you will read about migrants that don't talk 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:52.040 two migrants in the next few weeks will be a lot. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.520 If you care to read them, right, And that's because 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.600 people don't want to come here. They're either afraid of 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.240 coming here or they don't want to take the time, 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.800 they don't have the language skills. There are people who 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.880 have the language skills who don't who don't get these jobs, 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.679 and are people who don't have the language skills and 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.480 who don't have the understanding of how the border on 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.520 the ground works as opposed to immigration policy in DC works. 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.240 And you're going to see a lot of people who 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.120 don't live at the border, who don't come to the border, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:19.440 writing about the border and yeah, that's how we got here, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:23.040 and that's how we're getting to this largely like a 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:27.439 giant panic about a nothing burger. But yeah, it's the 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.760 reporting has been in continued to be responsible, and that 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:31.040 is in some degree complicit. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.920 Yeah, and I think this is also the explanation for 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:35.559 why there's a lot of people going like, why is 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:37.920 Biden not like setting the troops, why is Biden not 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.160 cracking out? Because it doesn't fucking give a shit. It's 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.240 the same policy. He doesn't care, right, Like, there's not 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:47.959 actually substantive disagreements except over like whether it should be 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.520 like some like a really super political stunt over whether 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.960 it should be like federal troops like on or like 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.800 federal agents like on the border, or whether it should 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.920 be the razor wire like he doesn't care. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.520 Yeah, you know. And to be fair, I will say, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.840 I don't think this is the start. This right here, 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.560 I don't think is the start of a civil war. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.000 We may if we have one. We may someday see 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.080 this on like the list of factors contributing to in 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.600 the years leading up to it. But I will say, 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.720 if we do ever have a shooting civil war, it 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:20.320 will be something this dumb that I feel absolutely certain 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.600 of it will. It will be a thing where no 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.679 one involved really cares about the issue that starts it. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.280 It's just a dick measuring contest that goes too far. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.160 I just don't think this is the dick measuring contest. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.280 But to be fair, it will be something this dumb. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.920 Don't worry, folks, don't worry. If we do start shooting 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.280 each other, it will be just as stupid as this. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.960 I do think that, Like I think we're extremely likely 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.200 to start a shooting civil war over this or in 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.240 the next few years. Generally, I do think the chance 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:52.040 of shooting my context without a civil war. It's shooting 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.839 specifically of migrants, especially in places where they're not safe, 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.480 like open aduitencure centers is going up. And yes, that 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.400 scares the shit out of me as someone who spends 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:05.000 a lot of his life there. And I do think that. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.040 I mean, we saw in twenty eighteen, right, and we've 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.720 covered this extensively, the Tree of Life shooting was in 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.160 large part motivated by right wing rhetoric about a caravan 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.280 of migrants. I was in Tijuana in twenty eighteen. I 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.760 spent months of my life helping people down there. Like 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:24.760 anyone who's scared of those people is paranoid to say, 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.719 at least right that they were mostly fine, wonderful, very 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.600 friendly people. I spent Christmas with them. But yeah, the 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:35.080 twenty eighteen Tree of Life shooting came from paranoia about 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.720 the border. We're seeing that same paranoia from right wing 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.400 media and from liberal media now, and I think that 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.760 it would not be unreasonable to have that fear of 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.760 individual acts of violence and terrorism along the border. 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:52.040 Yeah. I think one of the things we're going to 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.960 have to do in the near future is get better 0:12:56.160 --> 0:13:02.000 at understanding kind of the media dimensions of conflicts like this, 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.240 and what is an irresponsible way to respond to them? 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:11.120 And I think treating this like it is a civil 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.439 war type deal is kind of feeding into the right's 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:18.760 image of itself and their desire to treat this like 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:22.040 their revolutionaries. Now that said, what is the right thing 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:27.000 to do, because like the the what the Biden administrations 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.959 seems to be doing right now is largely kind of 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.000 ignoring it. I think at some point they will probably 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.920 try to nationalize the Guard and we'll see what happens. Then. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.320 One thing that's kind of worth noting is that this 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.880 has primarily gone viral on right wing media. I'm seeing 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:48.720 very little of this on like mainstream centrist like liberal 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.760 media sources. And I'm seeing little on this because like 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.800 most of those sources don't really care about the border. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.199 Unless there's some way to like drum up fear against 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.680 migrants like that, they'll do a caravans story. But this 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:04.440 just this just simply doesn't sell. I think when it 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.800 comes to like what is a responsible way to report 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.640 on this, I think you have to start by centering 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:15.720 what's actually happening to the migrants, what's being done to them, 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.040 as opposed to focusing on this Dick measuring, because that's 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.080 the actual harm here. The harm here is not that 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.240 Abbott has been mean to the border patrol, and it's 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.720 not that Texas and these other states, these rebel states, 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.840 are raising an army to fight the federal government. It's 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:37.120 that there's this argument between the people in power and 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.920 our country about like how bad should things be for 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.960 people who are already desperate? And I think that's where 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:49.440 you should center your focus. Also, I've just noticed this 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.280 on my other screen. This is a bit off topic, 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.160 but you know that movie Rebel Moon by Zack Snyder. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:59.400 Oh god, An, there's an ad for the canned water 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.520 company Liquid Death that just is showing a bunch of 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.880 like Imperial troops from that movie beating a man and 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.760 then drinking Liquid Death water as they relax afterwards. And 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.000 it's the most unhinged ad I've ever seen. It's like 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.400 running aside a box article. I've never seen anything like 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.760 this before. It's just like, what the wait a second, what, 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:25.880 Zack Snyder? Come on, you can't do Zach's no, that 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:32.040 fucking guy, Jesus talking of advertising, Buy some Liquid Death. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:43.160 We're back. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.360 Yeah, So I want to talk about Grift because we 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.560 talked about advertising. I don't know if you guys have 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.320 seen the number of like right wing influences. Okay, so 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.520 I'm looking at friends of the podcast Tim Pool's Twitter here. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.000 Oh, Tim, there's a guy who is excited to have 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.720 a civil war where he will be murked imediately by 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:01.880 one of his bodyguards. 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:07.160 Yeah, there is a man who's seen combat and knows 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.640 what it is to hear rounds cracking off over your head. Okay, Timple, 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.560 I'm just going to quote here at ha ha ha 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.760 ha ha ha, et cetera, Fuck me, dude, and then 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.560 Safe and Ready Meals dot com. Paul is not the 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:24.400 only one on the buckets of food grift right. Alex 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:25.520 Jones has been on this too. 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.000 Oh yeah a million years. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.160 Yeah yeah, yeah, he's been long time, long time food 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.080 story guy at Alex Jones. A lot of these guys 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.440 are like very clearly geing up fears of civil war 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.480 on the right so that they can sell people powder 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:43.320 dried eggs. Like it's it's so transparent, Like it's in 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:47.320 the same tweet. Yeah, Sobiak Trump calls for all willing 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.960 states to deploy National Guard to Texas border and start 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.800 the deportations and then there's a special partner offer for 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.720 my patriots supply dot com god, which is the way 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.080 to fuel your bigotry. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.240 I guess, guys, two things. First off, if you buy 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:05.000 your storable food from some right wing media grifters deal site, 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:09.159 you will spend the apocalypse shitting yourself to death like 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.719 it's all horrible. If you are going to buy, if 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:13.760 you are going to throw a bunch of money on store. 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.600 If you are a sane and reasonable person who wants 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.119 to store food, learn how to make your own jerky. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.240 Learn how to can food. You can do it very cheaply. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.439 It is not expensive to can your own food. If 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.040 you know what you're doing. You can can stuff that 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.240 is in season and get it really cheap from the 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.280 grocery store. And you can pickle and do other kinds 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.760 of can't pressure canning. It's really economical and it will 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.960 last a long time. If you are going to spend 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.600 a shitload of money on storable freeze dried food, you're 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.240 going to be spending a bunch of money anyway. Just 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.240 go buy Mountain House. Buy Mountain House. It's the good stuff. 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.000 It's tasty. As far as I know, no right winger 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:53.800 advertises on them and it's actually pretty good food. Yeah, 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.840 that's what I keep in my car for emergencies. You 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.000 will not shit ever ever again. Yeah, you may never 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:06.560 poop again, but the fucking biscuits and gravy breakfast selection there. Man, 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.719 when you're alone in the mountains, that ship is fucking fire. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.160 Oh my god. Yeah, that will. 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.159 It is like a bun for the digestive system. 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:15.560 Yeah. 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:17.800 I just want to plug Lentils dot org, which I 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.159 checked is a website. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.080 Yeah, Lentils the ship forever. 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.439 Yeah, find balance between the yin and the yang in 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.240 your in your post avocalypse life with man House and 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:36.240 Lentils do org you today? You know what's not running 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.359 on lentils guys. Unfortunately, this is not an ad pivot. 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.320 I've just I've done theil Bate switch. It's this fucking 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.960 convoy that's going to the border and we talk about this, Yeah, 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.040 let's do that. They're like, this is where I'm really 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:54.399 done with irresponsible reporting, like being like oh no, January sixth, 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.439 Part two. Here's a link if you want to take part, Like, 0:18:58.200 --> 0:18:59.760 what the fuck is wrong with you? 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:01.280 Stop it? 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.600 But I look, right wing groups have tried to run 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.800 convoys probably a dozen times since twenty twenty. Right, I 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.880 think we can all think of a different convoy that's 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:13.720 got stuck under a bridge. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.800 When drove by my house and then basically didn't get 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:17.720 any further than that. 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:22.040 Yep, Yet they get lost, they disagree about directions a 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:23.200 lot of What a lot. 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:26.000 Of people are going to realize is that the Texas 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:30.119 border is twelve hours from anywhere in Texas when you 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.919 are in Dallas. I believe this is accurate. When you 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.040 are in Dallas, it is faster to drive to Chicago 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.520 than it is to direct to the border. It is 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:44.440 so fucking far away from anything you could cross Europe 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:48.560 in the time it will take you to get down there. Yeah. 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.399 I love the idea of a convoy of like, you know, 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.960 like completely c pilled lunatics, just like you're sending on 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:56.080 the town of Moth. 0:19:55.960 --> 0:20:00.520 Yeah yeah, yeah, fucking passing Marathon and going where the 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:01.720 christ are we. 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:08.120 Like, Yeah, it is a really really beautiful bike ride 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:09.960 from MafA to the border. There's from dirt roads you 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:10.320 can take. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.400 Oh and Marfa by the way, folks, if you're looking 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:14.440 to go down to the border, very fun town. You'll 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:15.719 have a good time in Marfa. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.600 Yeah, do love a bit of Marfa. Really, I'm not 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.360 going to tell my Martha story. I'll tell you guys 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.679 when we're done. But yeah, yeah, it is not Liken salacious, 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:28.640 it's just done. Yeah, Marfa is near the border. Lots 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:30.600 of things are not. It is a very long way 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.919 from I guess like maybe people could fly to our 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:38.480 passer that's near the border. But yeah, it's this idea. 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:41.080 So there's three convoys, right, One I think is supposed 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.240 to go from Virginia Beach. 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:50.520 To Texas Shares the way guys enjoy spending seven thousand 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.320 dollars in Gussie. 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.440 Yes, exactly where if they not look at the cost 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.640 of fuel, you fucking idiots. 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:58.400