WEBVTT - Apocalyptic Present

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Woke at Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>me your girl Danielle Moody, recording live from our podstream

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<v Speaker 1>studios in Times Square. Folks, if there can be yet

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<v Speaker 1>another reason why we need an expansion of the Supreme Court, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court gave it to us at the very

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<v Speaker 1>end of last week. So, in a stunning move, in

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<v Speaker 1>the midst of a global health pandemic that we are

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<v Speaker 1>reeling in the United States with having the most COVID

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<v Speaker 1>positive cases of anywhere in the world, even though we

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<v Speaker 1>have the most vaccines, the Supreme Court has decided to

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<v Speaker 1>strike down Biden's e fiction moratorium extension. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>read this to you from USA today. The Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>rule that Joe Biden's extension of a coronavirus pandemic eviction

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<v Speaker 1>moratorium was unconstitutional last Thursday. The Court had already ruled

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<v Speaker 1>the moratorium, issued via the CDC in July twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>was unconstitutional without an Act of Congress that would pass

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<v Speaker 1>it into law. Biden's administration issued the extension while acknowledging

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<v Speaker 1>that its legal standing to do so was questionable at best.

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<v Speaker 1>The High Court's three liberal justice assented the conservative majority

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<v Speaker 1>opinion read this. It would be one thing if Congress

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<v Speaker 1>had specifically authorized the action that the CDC had taken,

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<v Speaker 1>but that has not happened. Instead, the CDC has imposed

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<v Speaker 1>a nationwide moratorium on evictions in reliance on a decade

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<v Speaker 1>old statute that authorizes its implement measures like fumigation and

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<v Speaker 1>pest extermination. It strains credutility to believe that the statute

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<v Speaker 1>grants the CDC the sweeping authority that it asserts. Folks.

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<v Speaker 1>There is sometimes when we have to recognize that laws

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<v Speaker 1>that are on the books are meant to be broken,

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes they are just cruel and unusual. When I

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<v Speaker 1>see things like this Supreme Court decision that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to affect tens of thousands of American families that they

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<v Speaker 1>will be out on the street. That we are already

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<v Speaker 1>at a place where we have crippled our hospital system.

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<v Speaker 1>We are overwrought with people who have lost their jobs

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<v Speaker 1>because of COVID nineteen. We are now seeing hospitalizations uptick

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<v Speaker 1>for children again. So think about what is going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen when tens of thousands of people now lose their homes. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>when I think about this Supreme Court decision, in them

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<v Speaker 1>saying that the CDC does not have legal standing, they

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<v Speaker 1>could have just extended the moratorium. Given the severe situation

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<v Speaker 1>that America and American families are in right now. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And when we think about what is legal versus what

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<v Speaker 1>is right, I remind you slavery was legal, the Holocaust

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<v Speaker 1>was legal, Apartheid was legal, colonization legal. All of these

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<v Speaker 1>things that have destroyed communities, our humanity, our morals, countries

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<v Speaker 1>all were legal. Right. And so when you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me right now about whether or not the CDC actually

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<v Speaker 1>has the standing to issue right a moratorium on evictions, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not doing it from a place of legality. They're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it from a place of morals. Right. Who the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck would think that it is a great idea to

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<v Speaker 1>throw people out of their homes. There's a reason why

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<v Speaker 1>we had a moratorium on evictions, on mortgages, on remp

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<v Speaker 1>on all of these things, right, because people need help.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I recognize about Republicans is that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>give a fuck about who needs help. They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to help the American people. They are the cruelest group

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<v Speaker 1>of people that I have seen. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of cruel I have to tell you this story,

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<v Speaker 1>which I find so reprehensible. It's you know, where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>It is we're in like our apocalyptic present, right, We're

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<v Speaker 1>in our Orwellian present, right, We're in this space where

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<v Speaker 1>cruelty has just become the norm. What I believe is

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<v Speaker 1>that we are having, as Congresswoman Ayana Presley had said,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were talking about whether or not people should,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, leave Congress on vacation and leave their constituents

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<v Speaker 1>out in the cold. As they continue to do so,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a crisis of empathy in this country. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about that for a minute, that if people had even

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<v Speaker 1>a drop of empathy, wearing a mask wouldn't be such

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<v Speaker 1>a big fucking deal, right, putting a piece of cloth

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<v Speaker 1>over your face, over your nose and your mouth, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why people still don't get that, that

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<v Speaker 1>would just be an act of solidarity. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>seen as your most patriotic duty. Right now, we are

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<v Speaker 1>at a place where this whole live free or die,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole pull yourself up from your bootstraps. I am

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<v Speaker 1>an island onto my self. Mentality is destroying us. And

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<v Speaker 1>so here's this story, folks that if this doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>your stomach turn. I don't know what will which is this.

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<v Speaker 1>A Wisconsin school district has decided that they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to eliminate their free meal program, which is federally funded. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what these people in Wakeisha School District

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<v Speaker 1>board have said. Karen Rajanik found herself saying that she

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<v Speaker 1>was aminating the free lunch program because families would become

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<v Speaker 1>too spoiled. I don't know about you, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that poor people who cannot afford to feed their

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<v Speaker 1>children that without these programs, their children would go fucking hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that giving them federally funded free lunch

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<v Speaker 1>is going to make them spoiled. I think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep our children from being sick and hungry and

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<v Speaker 1>the ability for them to actually learn, because you see,

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<v Speaker 1>kids can't learn on a fucking empty stomach. They can't

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<v Speaker 1>learn right in this type of intoxic environment where we

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<v Speaker 1>are making poor people the problem as opposed to the

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<v Speaker 1>systems that they fucking live in. And so now in

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<v Speaker 1>this Wisconsin school district, nine hundred parents and teachers have

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<v Speaker 1>banded together to oppose the move, calling it in sense

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<v Speaker 1>and out of touch. Well, it's not just insensitive and

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<v Speaker 1>out of touch. It is downright fucking cruel to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to look at children that cannot afford school lunch

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<v Speaker 1>right and tell them, well, fuck it, fuck you, and

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<v Speaker 1>fuck your family. That's essentially what this school board has

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<v Speaker 1>just said. You know, there's another report that came out,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is again going back to the cruelty that

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party is just all about these days. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't even have any qualms about stating it because of

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<v Speaker 1>death scantists de Satan's decision to not have mandatory masks

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<v Speaker 1>in schools. There is another report that has come out

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<v Speaker 1>that is beyond heartbreaking, folks, And what is it? A

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<v Speaker 1>fifth grade teacher right who our friend Glenn Kirshner will

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about in a little bit. A fifth grade

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<v Speaker 1>teacher in Florida school district who was already immuno a

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<v Speaker 1>compromise because of her battle with leukemia, decided to go

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<v Speaker 1>back into the classroom, even though her doctor had told

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<v Speaker 1>her she was going to be unable to get the

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine because of how immuno a compromise. She was double

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<v Speaker 1>masked and doing all of the right things, but without

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<v Speaker 1>her students being masked, she was still putting herself at risk. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, that well meaning teacher who wanted to show

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<v Speaker 1>up for her students a job that she loved has

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<v Speaker 1>now caught COVID and has died. That is yet another

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<v Speaker 1>one of De Satan's constituents that he has killed. This man,

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<v Speaker 1>this party has blood on their hands, and instead of

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<v Speaker 1>us being honest about who the fuck they are and

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<v Speaker 1>what it is that they're doing, we continue to treat

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<v Speaker 1>them as if they are a normal political party instead

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<v Speaker 1>of a death cult. Because I don't know what else

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<v Speaker 1>you would haul them. Right, You have this Wisconsin school

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<v Speaker 1>board saying fuck you kids, right, you don't need free lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>You have governors across this country saying fuck you kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need mass right. So where is the family

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<v Speaker 1>values again? Coming up next, friends, is my conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>our good, good friend Glenn Kershner to walk us through

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<v Speaker 1>the latest legal nonsense and criminal web that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and his sycophants are continuing to weave without accountability and responsibility. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always so excited when we have our friend MSNBC

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<v Speaker 1>legal analysts and the host of Justice Matters Glenn Kirshner

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<v Speaker 1>join us unwoke have to run through all of the

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<v Speaker 1>legal leads that is happening across this country, particularly around

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<v Speaker 1>our wayward twice impeached ex president who continues on his

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<v Speaker 1>spree of the Big Lie and continues to attend hate

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<v Speaker 1>rallies where he undermines our democracy. And eight months in Glenn,

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<v Speaker 1>still nothing, no indictments, no nothing. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>start off on justice matters. You had Representative Eric Swalwell

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<v Speaker 1>on your show to discuss the idea of a Presidential

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<v Speaker 1>Crimes Commission, which would essentially allow for there to be

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<v Speaker 1>independent investigations into the criminal acts of presidents. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>give us like a big picture view as to what

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<v Speaker 1>this would entail and why it's needed. So, Danielle, I

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<v Speaker 1>have been calling for a very long time for a

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<v Speaker 1>Trump Primes Commission the TCC. I am a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>less politic than Congressman Swalwell, who I admire. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>former prosecutor. He calls it the Presidential Crimes Commission, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think we know which president he's talking about. And

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Warren was somebody who very early on called for

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of presidential crimes commission to to investigate not

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<v Speaker 1>only Donald Trump but his cabinet members who may have

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<v Speaker 1>been involved in criminal activity, any of his criminal associates

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of government, including members of Congress. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, Eric Swalwell has gone on record as saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we need a presidential crimes commission. What would that look like. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>just as at the Department of Justice, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>Civil Rights Division, we could stand up the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice could stand up a presidential crimes commission. They could

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<v Speaker 1>draw from the most experienced prosecutors not only at Main

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<v Speaker 1>Justice in DC proper, but the ninety four United States

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<v Speaker 1>Attorneys offices around the nation. There are some remarkably experienced, dedicated,

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<v Speaker 1>career process secutors among the hundred and ten thousand Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice employees. The Attorney General could pull together a

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<v Speaker 1>group of investigators from the FBI and other federal agencies

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<v Speaker 1>and then assign a series of the most senior, most

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<v Speaker 1>highly regarded, most experienced prosecutors, and the mandate, the jurisdictional

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<v Speaker 1>mandate of that task force would be investigate all potential

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<v Speaker 1>crimes by Trump and company. And I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many crimes that we've seen committed in

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<v Speaker 1>the harsh light of day by Trump, his family, members

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<v Speaker 1>his associates, and people will say, yeah, it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>like too much to get our arms around. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>always argued, you know, it's too much not to get

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<v Speaker 1>our arms around. And that's why I think if we

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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of a dedicated, targeted unit, like a

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<v Speaker 1>Presidential Crimes Commission, not run out of Congress like the

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<v Speaker 1>Select Committee, run out of the Department of Justice, so

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<v Speaker 1>they had full subpoena power, full indictment power, and full

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutorial power. I think that is what's called for in

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<v Speaker 1>the aftermath of the unique atrocities that we just experienced

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<v Speaker 1>for four years at the hands of Donald Trump. How

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<v Speaker 1>would this be different then, let's say the application of

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<v Speaker 1>a independent like an inspector's general. How would that? How

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<v Speaker 1>would how would this Presidential Crimes Commission look different than

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<v Speaker 1>let's say the fact finding and gathering that happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the Muller report that was with a you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>inspector's general. What would be the difference here? Great question.

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<v Speaker 1>So the inspector General for the Department of Justice one

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have subpoena power and two doesn't have prosecutorial authority.

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<v Speaker 1>All they can do is investigate and issue reports with

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<v Speaker 1>findings and recommendations about how to fix any problems that

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<v Speaker 1>are found. The Mueller investigation had a very narrow investigative

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<v Speaker 1>mandate all the all the letter of May seventeenth, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was granted to Bob Muller and his team

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<v Speaker 1>was to investigate any contacts between Russians and the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>campaign and prosecute any cases that are necessary to develop

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<v Speaker 1>that investigative mandate. The Mueller team did not have a

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<v Speaker 1>broad and sweeping mandate prosecute all crimes you find, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we lose sight of that. And what Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Muller did was he followed the rules that he had

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<v Speaker 1>to abide by, and that left us all frustrated because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, wait, WHOA, there's a whole lot more crime

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<v Speaker 1>out there that seems to have unprosecuted, unaddressed, uninvestigated. And

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<v Speaker 1>if Bob Muller could respond, he would say, please look

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<v Speaker 1>at the May seventeen letter giving me my jurisdictional marching orders.

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<v Speaker 1>And he followed them to a t, though it ended

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<v Speaker 1>up ultimately doing a disservice to the American people in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, not that he followed it, but the narrow

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<v Speaker 1>mandate he was given in the first place. So this

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<v Speaker 1>would be a wide open, no holds barred task force.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we shouldn't call it a commission because that conjures

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<v Speaker 1>up notions of congressional commissions. This would be a prosecutorial

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<v Speaker 1>task force and their mandate would be investigate all potential

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<v Speaker 1>presidential crimes and any Trump associates, enablers, co conspirators who

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<v Speaker 1>may have been involved in Trump's criminal shenanigans. So well,

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<v Speaker 1>because this would be outside of congressional purview, right, so,

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<v Speaker 1>how would this be formed and who would be the

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<v Speaker 1>person or people that are able to appoint the members

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<v Speaker 1>of this commission so that it wouldn't turn into what

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<v Speaker 1>we have seen right now with the Congressional one six Commission,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just a partisan nightmare. So I think this

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<v Speaker 1>would be entirely within the purview of the leadership of

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice to put this task force together,

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<v Speaker 1>to draw from the many federal law enforcement agencies that

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<v Speaker 1>would be available to contribute investigators, agents, resources to this task.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing right now, there is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a Civil Rights Division, there's a National Security Division,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a frauden public corruption that depend the public Integrity Section.

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<v Speaker 1>There are all of these different units at the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice, and they have different jurisdictional mandates broken down

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<v Speaker 1>by crime by person. Donald Trump has committed crimes across

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<v Speaker 1>the spectrum of all of those different divisions, civil rights crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>white collar crimes, national security crimes. And so if we

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<v Speaker 1>put a task force together that is not bound by

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<v Speaker 1>its own sort of little jurisdictional slice of the prosecutorial

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<v Speaker 1>pie because it's either civil rights, or its white collar,

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<v Speaker 1>or its national security or it's something else, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we need, a holistic approach to investigating Donald Trump's crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I see when I hear this, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is absolutely what we need. But

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<v Speaker 1>then in my other side, in my heart, I'm thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when there is another Bill Barr or Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Sessions that is the head of the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>and we're looking at a President Obama situation where we're

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<v Speaker 1>going after you just simply because we are looking. We

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<v Speaker 1>are nail. Uh, We're a hammer looking for a nail.

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<v Speaker 1>So how does that how do you how would you

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<v Speaker 1>possibly stop something like that? I think we've just learned

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't stop something like Bill Barr and Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>which was our nation's most dangerous tandem combination of president

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<v Speaker 1>and corrupt attorney general. You can't stop it if coequal

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<v Speaker 1>branches of government are willing to endure or endorse it

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<v Speaker 1>the way the Republicans did in Congress. The Republicans basically

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<v Speaker 1>neutered themselves. They made themselves a second class branch of

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<v Speaker 1>government by allowing the executive branch to, you know, be

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<v Speaker 1>a runaway, lawless executive branch. Congress is like, okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>okay for us, because if we if we serve as

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<v Speaker 1>a check against that, then we Republicans might lose Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's base in the next election, and then we will

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<v Speaker 1>lose power, we will lose money, we will lose prestige.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what's more important to so many members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party than actually governing. Honestly, we see it

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<v Speaker 1>with Dasantis right now. I don't want to go off

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<v Speaker 1>on the Dasantis rant, but he is willing to kill

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<v Speaker 1>Florida citizens by prohibiting school masked mandates. We just had

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<v Speaker 1>a horrific report of a fifth grade school teacher who

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<v Speaker 1>had a compromised immune system. She was battling leukemia, could not,

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<v Speaker 1>on doctor's orders, received the vaccine, but went back to

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<v Speaker 1>her classroom because she loved and was dedicated to her

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<v Speaker 1>fifth grade students. She was double masked. She was sanitizing

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<v Speaker 1>every day, but Dasantis had prohibited masked mandates so the

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<v Speaker 1>students didn't have to be masked. She contracted of it

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<v Speaker 1>and die. This was reported out in recent days. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Ron the Santis sacrificing the men, women and children of

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<v Speaker 1>Florida so as not to alienate Donald Trump's base. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know when we reached the conclusion, Danielle, that it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay for politicians to kill the citizenry and have that

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<v Speaker 1>go unaddressed. I don't know why we have settled on

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<v Speaker 1>this point, rather than holding criminal politicians accountable when they

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<v Speaker 1>commit what I suggest is a negligent homicide or an

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<v Speaker 1>involuntary manslaughter of the citizens they were elected to govern.

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