1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World head hours at 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. There's got picasady backday and now 5 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips and 6 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's. It is a beautiful Wednesday morning from the 7 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. It's Talking Cowboys presented by a Lostito's 8 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: the official Chip and Dip of the Dallas Cowboys. As 9 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: we are live and ready to go. We in here, 10 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: that's right up in here, up in here, ready to roll, 11 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: as we preview the Cowboys defense and how they slowed 12 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: down that Chargers offense. It's gonna be fun here over 13 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: the next forty minutes. We got to get out a 14 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: little bit early today because we gotta get out of 15 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: the way, unfortunately because coach Mike McCarthy has shifted the 16 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: schedule around a little bit. No. To tell the truth, 17 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: it's it's the break is on after us and we 18 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: have to be from That's what it is. We have 19 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: to get out of the way for there standing out 20 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: there with their watching right if you have thirty eight 21 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: that's right anyway, DJ Kelley, is it if you're at 22 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: home and you're a fan of talking cowboys, voice your 23 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: displeasure at Derek Eagleton. I don't want kid, okay, I 24 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: don't want to get into nervous laugh. That's another thing, 25 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: you know. I wanted to get out of the way 26 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: of all the petty drama between the break and hanging 27 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: with the boys. I think it's stupid. So you know, 28 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: I do have a new challenge out what I just 29 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: I just can't on mind. I want to see Derek 30 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: eagleson know versus Rob p Island in a forty yard dash. 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no. You always shy away from 32 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: stuff like you know my injury history? Do you knows mine? 33 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: I guarantee you that I don't know. Is it extensive? Yes, 34 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: hamstring related, it's it's lower it's lower trimmy, it's yes, 35 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: it's it's ankles, it's just lower body. Do you want 36 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: to pass that off to would you like to? Would 37 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: you like the phone a friend in and pass that 38 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: off the Kyle. I would not be on IR designated 39 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: to return. I would just be okay. So it's just 40 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: I would like to pass my baton. I'd like to 41 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: pass my baton to Heck Harrison. You want he doesn't want, 42 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: So Derek Eagleton versus Heck Ma Harrison. Man, listen, man, 43 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: forty my racing days is over with man, so you 44 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: shine away too. And come on, now, what is this 45 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: competitive way? You know? I mean I don't run from 46 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: no challenge. I mean, what are you talking about? Okay, 47 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: what you're talking about? A CB We gotta set that up. 48 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: One day he challenged him, he won eightyed right back 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: to what it is and make it understood. Let's go 50 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: what's the real quick what would the prize be here? 51 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: Like we're talking about a bonus. We're talking about pride, 52 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: We're talking about the Fastest the Fastest podcast on Dallas 53 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. I kind of like k wise idea, 54 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: let's just fly under the radar. Let let hang in 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: and break them. Yeah, Bachelor in Paradise thing with all 56 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: the drama here, but we can race them. Huh, but 57 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: we can race them. The racing's fine I'm talking about. 58 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: I wish we would do that and do it like 59 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: a charity deal, like have a whole cheerity deal where 60 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: like we all run a forty out at the stars 61 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: and we got the things. Just have ice. I do 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: it in charity. I think it'd be really cool. I 63 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: put the players lounge. Probably got says the guy that 64 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: the players lounge. What he said, the players lounge and 65 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: thinks so they could beat us probably out of here. 66 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: There's not nobody on any podcast. I could feel like 67 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: knew he would weigh that one down a little bit. Church. 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: I was smash Church in the forty right now. That 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: makes one of us on the show. So that's it. 70 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: Church get hit but he can't catch me. Oh okay, 71 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: well we're gonna have to talk about that. I like 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: this now, we're really getting into this real um okay, 73 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: just no, Jesse's been hitting the weights, man, Jessica hit 74 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: the weights all day long. Jesse might run a four six. 75 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: Damn that's pretty high, man, that's pretty good. What are 76 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: you hitting right now? Hitting like Isiah? Faster than that, 77 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: faster than than a four six? Yeah? I got leftover speed, 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: were doing Henry Rugs have leftover speed, leftover speed, left 79 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: over Yeah, y'all do realize the break is gonna be 80 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: right behind. Yeah. I don't know what are we doing, 81 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: but this is important. Is it important? Okay, it is? 82 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: You know what else is important? Dan Quinn scheming up 83 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: to stop Justin Herbert and we mentioned this a little 84 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: bit yesterday, but he's gonna have to do it, uh 85 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: in the debut for Justin Herbert against the Dallas Cowboys. 86 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: These two teams were originally supposed to meet last year 87 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: in the preseason, which we would have seen the first 88 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: little haste of Justin Herbert. But now the second year 89 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: rookie makes his way against the Dallas Cowboys in front 90 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: of a full so fine stadium. I mean, it's gonna 91 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: be a packed house and it'll probably be pretty darn loud, 92 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: if I guess, I think it's gonna be rocking. But Rob, 93 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: when you look at Justin Herbert and the specific things 94 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: that he can do on the offensive side, what scares 95 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: you the most about what you've seen? I think it's 96 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: I think it's his beyond just his skill set, it's 97 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: the guys around him. I mean, he's got maybe the 98 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: best receiver, one of the top receivers in the league. 99 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: And we'll get into all the different guys, but I'll 100 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: just you know, they've got a nice two punch it 101 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: wide at tight end, and they've rebuilt their offensive line, 102 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: so you know, it's early, so it's hard to know 103 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: exactly what they look like. And they went up against 104 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: a really good defense that got to him to some 105 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: degree Washington did last week. But it's just kind of 106 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: a better supporting cast than he had last year. So 107 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: I kind of look at the same as Joe Burrow 108 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, Like, just by that alone, Uh, he's more 109 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: of a challenge than he would be last year. I think. Yeah, 110 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: coming out of coming out of Oregon, I think a 111 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: lot of people had him ranked a little bit too low. 112 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean after he after his rookie season. Um and 113 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: Justin hurt Herbert is one of those guys that have 114 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: easily got the uh, the reputation of being a smart quarterback. Obviously, 115 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: I think he's like a bio moleculars guy as far 116 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: as his degree playing what's concerned. None of us would 117 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: have been able to get in that degree play and 118 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't do that. But just a smart guy. And 119 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: not only that, he's big, it's big, and he has 120 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: a big arm, and he's one of those guys that 121 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: I believe that the NFL views him as the future. 122 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean He's quintessential uh quarterback, big smart um and 123 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: big arm, you know. So you know, I look at him, 124 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: and I look at some of the things that he 125 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: does on the field, and I'm like, wow, I really 126 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: enjoy watching that kind of quarterback play for me. The 127 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: San Diego walk right into that. The Chargers, uh, you know, 128 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: they don't with Lombardi their their offensive coordinator. They don't 129 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: do a lot of motion and things like that. So 130 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: I think they put him in the best position to succeed. 131 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: But I think there's some other things about his game 132 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: that will will get into as well. Yeah, Heckman just 133 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: went straight into my point. Lombardi is really the key 134 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: to this thing. I know, we want to talk about 135 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: Herbert and some of the other guys they have out there, 136 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: Allen and Eckler and all those guys. But um, but 137 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: Lombardi puts these guys in position to be successful. And 138 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: I say that because as I've been watching the film, 139 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: I've probably watched this game a good four or five 140 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: times now. Where these guys are running West Coast offense. 141 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: This is straight West Coast, this is straight mirrored routes, 142 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: old school Jason Garrett ish. All right, But but shorter routes, right, Jason, 143 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Gary used to make you hold the ball a little bit. 144 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: These routes are five ten yards down the field and 145 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: they try to lull you to sleep. They give him 146 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: high percentage passes to throw, they're giving him easy reads. 147 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: He does. He doesn't have to think. He's getting a 148 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: ball in the hands of his playmakers, and they're asking 149 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: those guys that didn't go do what they do in 150 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: terms of the yak yardists. So I'm as I look 151 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: at this, at this offense, our defense, I'm trying to think, 152 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: what can they do, what can they do to disrupt 153 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: where Herbert knows because they're not gonna really have the 154 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: time to get back there. I'm a challenge like last 155 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: week where Brady's got the ball out of his hands 156 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: two seconds second half, it's gonna be like that. Yeah. Well, 157 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: and it's because of the way that they scheme it up. 158 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: And you're right the game that you're referencing, the Washington 159 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: Los Angeles game that happened in Week one. I was 160 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: expecting Herbert to come and throw the football around a 161 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, his arm talent is elite. That's 162 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: what I had on my scouting report. Last year whenever 163 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: he was coming out of Oregon elite arm talent. And 164 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: then you also look on the outside and I would 165 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: say Mike Williams and along with Keenan Allen, are both 166 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: top notch deep threats in the league, both of which 167 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: can take the top off of a defense. But they don't. 168 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: At least they didn't last week, and they might this week. 169 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: That's my question that I'm going to turn around to you. 170 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: Do you expect them to do something like that? I 171 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: think they may take more shots at us. Reason being, 172 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: when you're playing against against the Washington football team, you 173 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: don't want to hold the ball, for instance a period 174 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: of time. So they weren't allowing those guys to get home, 175 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: even though their ricky tackle did a heck of a 176 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: job keeping the deep. As a line of if Washington, yes, later, 177 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: freaking man, he showed up. I didn't even know who 178 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: this cat was until I watched the film. You knew 179 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: who he feeled me in? Yeah, you feeled me in, 180 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: But no, um. I think that they did a heck 181 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: of a job and are I think they're gonna take 182 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: more shots against us if we based upon what we 183 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: put on film last week. They are going to test 184 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: us and it's our it kind of it kind of 185 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: backdoors what we were saying yesterday in terms of us 186 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: being able to match their personnel. We need to put 187 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: our bigs on their bigs. We need Diggs, we need 188 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: nay Sean, We need those guys putting hands on those 189 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: guys in line of scrimmage so that they can't get 190 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: free releases and that they can't get down the field. 191 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: And then our d line has time to get home. Yeah, 192 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: but you're right that they would get in the last 193 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: week's game, they'd get the ball and Keenan Allen's hands 194 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: in space like out on the edge, bubble screen type 195 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: stuff and let him go to work, which he can do. 196 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: And he's going to be the biggest challenge, there's no 197 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: question about it. And they move him around as well, 198 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: move him in the slot a little bit, try to 199 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: get him off of potential double coverage and stuff like that. 200 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: So it starts with him, but they've got other guys. 201 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: Heck no, and I watched the same game, and you 202 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: realize that Herbert was cognizant of getting the ball out 203 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: of his hand. He knew that pressure was coming. But 204 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen to me, is the possession receiver for the Chargers. 205 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: He's a guy that can run all of those intermediate routes. 206 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: He does that well. I mean, top five deal alive 207 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: when it comes down to route runners. Keenan Allen is 208 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: that you know, and you can argue at five all 209 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: you want to, but he is in the mix of 210 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: some of the best Mike Williams when you watch when 211 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: you watch the Chargers, he's there, big play guy. And 212 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: the thing that I noticed about Herbert is he is 213 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: still a young quarterback and he has young quarterback tendencies. 214 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: He will stare down his receivers and that may be 215 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: the opportunity for our defense because he does that. Now, 216 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, because you know a lot of 217 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: times when you give your anecdotal accounts about playing wide 218 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: receivers in DBS in this league, why is the perception 219 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: that if you're a zone corner you're you're not any good? 220 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: Because to me, looking at this team, if you play zone, 221 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: you don't have to travel guys. You can actually stay 222 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: back and do all the things that you talked about 223 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: as far as putting hands on guys and recognizing where 224 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: the areas that you're covering so you don't have to 225 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: take the same approach that you did last week per 226 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: se with Tampa. True. And so I mean, for you, 227 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: do you think that when you looked at the tape, 228 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: did you say zone works better versus or are we 229 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: gonna stay true to the Tampa two man? I think 230 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: I think you want to play zone. I think you 231 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: want to play kind of one high zone though, because 232 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: the reason being, these guys run a lot of flag routes, 233 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: a lot of out routes, yep. And you want to 234 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: have those guys underneath, right, you want to have four 235 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: to five guys playing within that five to ten yard 236 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: barrier because that's where they're living. So putting being able 237 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: to put you know, Neil and be able to put 238 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: Parsons and Jabril Cox and all these guys at that 239 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: second level to be able to run sideline the sideline, 240 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: but also have the length, to be able to consolidate 241 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: those those gaps, because you're gonna have gaps in his zone. 242 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: That's what his zone is, right, and those guys are 243 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: gonna try to try to you know, obviously take advantage 244 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: of that. But when you have length and when you 245 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: have speed, that's when you can kind of counter their 246 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: ability to be able to convert on those things, do 247 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: you think. I mean, I'm just trying to go back 248 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: to what we had talked about yesterday because we mentioned 249 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: man versus zone against. This has your thought process shifted? 250 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: It all on what you want to go to in 251 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: terms of how you would if you were in dan 252 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: quinn shoes combat this off. I think you have to 253 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: mix it up. And the thing is those guys, you 254 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: obviously don't want to come out and just run straight zones, 255 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: especially yeah, especially with these guys, and that's not what 256 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: they did last year. That's what they did last we give. 257 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you would never do that in the game plan. However, 258 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: these guys run a lot of tight splits. So when 259 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: you're running a lot of tight splits, it makes it 260 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: difficult to play man. What is tight splits? Tight splits 261 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: meaning that the receivers, instead of being out wide, they're 262 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: literally close to the tackles. Right, So these guys are 263 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: three two to three yards off of the tackle. Looks 264 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: like a bunch. It looks like a kind of a 265 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: bunch set. But you know, two guys on each side 266 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: and they're typically running the same round. Keeping things snug. Yeah, 267 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: so you allow yourself to have you know, twelve or 268 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: fifteen yards of space to run your routes on the 269 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: outside kind instead of instead of lining up five yards 270 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: from the sideline, now you have fifteen yards from the 271 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: sideline to work, and it open open things up. Also, 272 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: if I'm close to me, if me and Rob pe 273 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: are in a in a tight set right and we're 274 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: close to our tackles, now all of a sudden, if 275 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: you guys are playing man to man, we can do 276 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: all kinds of nasty things in terms of our release 277 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: to pick you guys. I can have Rob cross my 278 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: face and guess what you're gonna do. You're gonna run 279 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: over the top of Heck mon, well, guess where I'm going. 280 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm going underneath Rob, so he can't play me man 281 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: to man. It's an easy five yard pitching cash, just 282 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: like he talked about Keenan Allen getting and then guess what, 283 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: now you have to worry about this guy in his 284 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: yack yardage. I was just gonna say, the Rams run 285 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: some of that kind of stuff absolutely where. And there's 286 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: a lot of variations off of that depending on what 287 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: the coverage is. So yeah, McBay likes and no one 288 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: did the pick plays better than New England cheaters. But 289 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: that's yeah, I read a lot of pig plays. But 290 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: you're right. I just want to go back to what 291 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: you said about dan Quinn and just disguising those coverages 292 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: showing man playing zone things like that, and everybody does 293 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: it in the NFL. I mean, but at the same time, 294 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: you're dealing with still a young quarterback and you want 295 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: to make sure that you disguise it. But let's go 296 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: back to what we know is gonna work for this defense, 297 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: and it's an old remedy, your defensive line creating pressure. 298 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna cure everything. You know. It's it's 299 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: like my grandmother and castor all Man, she thought that 300 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: that cured everything. To take it, yeah, you know, it's horrible, 301 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: but it's an old remedy that cured everything. And the 302 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: defensive line is that cure. I mean, if you can 303 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: get pressure on the quarterback, then that alleviates a lot 304 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: of the time that you're dealing with in that zone 305 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: in man. So I'm looking for this defensive line today, 306 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean for Sunday to just I mean, bring it. 307 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: If You're gonna bring a blitz get home, and that's 308 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: what we have to Michael Parsons last week did not 309 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: get the pressure on Tom Brady because of his quick releases. 310 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: But I think we have opportunity this week. You have 311 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get after a young quarterback this week, 312 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: and I think that's something that no matter what it is. 313 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Tom Brady and Justin Herbert are on different 314 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: levels in terms of getting the football out quick, no 315 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: matter how much you scheme it up. For Justin Herbert, 316 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: I want to see I'm in the same way. I 317 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: want to see DeMarcus Lawrence get after it. He had 318 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: the forced fumble last week. I want him to have 319 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: an encore. I want him to come after the quarterback. 320 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: I want to get a couple of sacks because he 321 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: didn't really see a whole lot of that. That is 322 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: that when you bring up de Marcus Ware, that is 323 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: Lawrence Lawrence, de Marcus Lawrence Storm Norton is the left tackle. 324 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: That the tackle that he's going to be going against. 325 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: The right tackle, yeah, that he's going to be going against. 326 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: And I mean that one on one matchup, if he 327 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: has it, he has to win that matchup. Definitely see 328 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: you guys are looking at the d line. I'm honestly 329 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: looking at our second level this game. I'm looking at 330 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: the linebacker. I'm leving our linebackers. I think our ability 331 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: to run and hit is going to be the deciding 332 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: factor for us. I think they're going to get the 333 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: ball out. Will they take their shots? Absolutely? Absolutely, especially 334 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: if we put you know, shorter stature guys on their 335 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: big boys out there. They're running six two six four 336 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: out there, all right. They have a little guy too, 337 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: but he's in the backfield and he's kind of shifty, right. 338 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: But in terms of us, I think our guys a 339 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: gonna have to run and hit and be physical as 340 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: all get out, obviously rushing to the ball, swarming the 341 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: ball and trying to get the ball out that way. 342 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: I think we got force turnovers. We did it last week, 343 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: but I think we can force turnovers that way. But 344 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: I really think it's going to be dependent on our 345 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: second level guys being able to make plays. 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I'm not. 405 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: Unfortunately you can call you yeah whatever, dude, Um, all right, 406 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: So how I work for you without the pinky so delayed. 407 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: It's a committed to marinate Um. How would we grade 408 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: the linebacker performances past week? How would we grade it? 409 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: And I don't even need mean like letter grade, but 410 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: just good bad ugly needs improvement? What what what sticker 411 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: would you put on it? If you had to put 412 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: one on it? Rob Um, it was okay. I mean, 413 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: like I wrote about Michael Parsons a lot yesterday, and 414 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: I liked a lot of what I saw from him 415 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: in the game. I mean, his primary responsibilities. It seemed 416 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: like we're four net wherever he goes, even if he's 417 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: out wide or and tight ends. And he obviously they 418 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: had trouble with Gronk, there's no question about that. But 419 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: he was around the ball a lot, and he had 420 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: a lot of fifty fifty almost plays in the game, 421 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: And so I like that he's still around the ball, 422 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: he's still given a one hundred percent effort, and I think, 423 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, some of the communications stuff that will grow 424 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: as he I love that article. I ran the article man, 425 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: and I love how you prefaced up almost plays. I liked, well, 426 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: that was one twin point was the fifty fifty sideline 427 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: throw where Brady's like off his back foot and just 428 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: that was not Tom Brady type throw. And I don't know, 429 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: I think Dan was kind of suggesting maybe maybe Micah 430 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: relaxed a little bit because he thought the play was 431 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: over and he wasn't going that way. Might have been 432 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: a pick, might have been had been a game changing play, 433 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: and that's you know, MICA's one hundred ten percent all 434 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: the time. So that was a good teaching point for him. 435 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: But I thought, do you think that pick six this year? Oh? God, dude, 436 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: I think I could see it. Yeah, if he gets 437 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, it's off to the race. 438 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he's gone immediately the 439 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: first time he gets the ball. But man, I mean 440 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: at Penn State when he got the ball, he was 441 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: pretty lethal with it. What do you guys think? I mean, 442 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: I obviously defensively they gave up plays. I mean, you know, 443 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: the second ground touchdown was clearly just a it was 444 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: a bust playing. Quinn said, I shouldn't have called it, 445 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: and should not I don't have so he admitted that 446 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: and maybe shouldn't have called it. And I think Quinn 447 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: man going back to that cover zero played for GROUNK, 448 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: I just thought the alignment was wrong. I thought it 449 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: should have been Wilson on the outside, Tank on the inside. 450 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: And that was the thing that led to the play 451 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: going is because you don't leave the inside of the 452 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: field like that open in any quarterback in this league 453 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: is gonna find it. But you know, I think it 454 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: was fair for the linebacker play. When it comes down 455 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: to Mica, I understand that they didn't. He didn't play 456 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: last year at all. And you know, the rookie wall 457 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: is waiting. I know you got your article ready for 458 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: the rookie wall, but you know at some point it's 459 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: gonna happen. But I don't want to see him leave 460 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: the field yet. I mean, you see him in there 461 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: on running plays and he's he's capable. I mean he's 462 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: like you said, he's always around the ball. He's that 463 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: opportunistic defender that you want. I love what you were saying, 464 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, with dan Quinn's communicates, saying that his communication 465 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: was well, what did you see? Things like that? And 466 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: not only just for Micah, I think Keen O'Neill he 467 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: had a situation versus Gronk where you know, he got 468 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: burned on the first down. But that's things that are 469 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: gonna happen. You can look at this matchup. The guy 470 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: like Jared Cook, veteran tight end ben in the league, 471 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: know all the tricks to the trade of you still 472 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: you know again, you get an opportunity to go up 473 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: against the guy, and I want to see how Neil 474 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: matches up. I think from a rotation standpoint, I like 475 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: what we saw on Sunday or on Thursday. Rather, I 476 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: think the rotation was fine. I thought the way that 477 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: he matched up specific guys on specific guys is exactly 478 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: what dan Quinn was alluding to. So I like that 479 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: a lot. It was a matchup game, and we talked 480 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: about the snap counts of Michael Parson's at fifty one, 481 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: Knew at fifty, Jalen Smith at sixteen, Laton vander Esch 482 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: at fourteen. I think that switches around, and dan Quinn 483 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: even alluded to it said it's early, we're gonna play 484 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: matchup football. Well, now, as you look to the Chargers, 485 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: you've got guys like Jared Cook as a tight end 486 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: who had five receptions for fifty six yards this past 487 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: Sunday against Washington. He had an opportunity for a couple more. 488 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: I think throughout that game and they elected to go elsewhere. 489 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: But now that you see this matchup, Isaiah, how do 490 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: you see the rotation panning out for the Cowboys linebackers. Yeah, 491 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: I see it being a lot more equal, I really do. 492 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: The reason being Jared Cook's not Gronk, sure, and Jared 493 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: Cook's He's like a juggernaut. When when I think about 494 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: what we're watching an X man and watching he's a juggernaut. 495 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: He takes time to get going. So I think that you, 496 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: you know vander ash, you know Jayles Smith, those guys 497 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: that have more of an opportunity to get their hands 498 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: on him at the line of scrimmage and really just 499 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: kind of ride his coattail, really sitting in his hip pocket. 500 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: So I think that we'll see those guys be a 501 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: lot more physical. Even though Gronk has ability to be physical, 502 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: he's more elusive right as big as he is six seven, 503 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: two sixty wherever he is, he's he's really elusive versus 504 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: Jared Cook is really just kind of just man, just square. 505 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,239 Speaker 1: I gotta look up juggernaut. I don't know X men, 506 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: you know what a juggernaut is? Wow, I know the 507 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: term out. I don't know the y the shaded video, 508 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: so you have the visual. But but yeah, so I 509 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: think that their former kind of game. You never see 510 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: Jerry Cooker the same. Again, that's how you residents. But 511 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: I think these guys will have more of an impact, 512 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: even more so than than a Neil or a Cox 513 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: against that particular player. Okay, because they could be more physical, 514 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: they're heavier. How worried should we be about the linebackers 515 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: on tight ends? Hecma, I'm worried about any any any linebacker, 516 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: any linebacker other than Neil and Parsons our Cox on 517 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: the tight end for sure, based off of their history. 518 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: So you know, if that's my take on this is 519 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: when you do a comparison between what we came up 520 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: against last week, I like what Isaiah was saying. It's 521 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: not the same style of a tight end. But still 522 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: he's a savvy guy, and you know he knows how 523 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: to find those open spaces in a zone or a 524 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 1: man or whatever it's gonna be. I think that, you know, 525 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: for us, the number one thing has to be circled 526 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: and underlying to stop the run. Because Austin Eckler and 527 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: round Tree their backup, the backup running back man, this 528 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: guy of them was sorry roundtree to third. He's he's 529 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: a he's a bit of a change of pace. And 530 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: so you know, I want to see our linebackers come 531 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: downhill and expose the charges in that way. And I 532 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: think that's the that's the bigger, bigger thing for the 533 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: second level. You're showing who Juggnaut is, so at least 534 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: now you know, yeah, now Jerry Cook has burned the 535 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys before many Mike McCarthy as his coach a few 536 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: years ago. That's I was gonna go to the run game. 537 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: That's that was a great point because we haven't really 538 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: talked much about Austin Ekeler and I have that guy. Yeah, 539 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: they have him too, And we didn't talk much about 540 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: the run defense because they didn't try it much Tampa 541 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: Bay true last week. But I thought that was pretty 542 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: good in a small sample size, that they were physical, 543 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: they were in the right spots. I just think just 544 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: to get back on the linebackers real quick, I think, 545 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: and we'll see if vander Esh and Jalen play more, 546 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: and maybe that's more a little more balanced, but that 547 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: that duo with Parsons and Neil, there is more speed 548 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: out there. And I just go back to some of 549 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: those game games last year. I'm thinking like Arizona Cleveland, 550 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: where they really tried to stretch the Cowboys out defensively 551 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: and make them go, like you were saying, side to 552 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: side move latterly, and that was a weakness last year. 553 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: Eckler challenges you in that way. Rowntree, even Jalen Guyden 554 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: some of the things they do with him former Cowboy 555 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: as well. I think the Cowboys are better equipped with 556 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: their second level in terms of range to cover some 557 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: of those things. So I feel better about those matchups 558 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: than I did last year with the group they had, 559 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: and they were missing vander esh last year for a 560 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: good portion of the season too. No, I like that. 561 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the team I guess priorities 562 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: this past offseason was adding that team speed and picking 563 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: up guys like Neil and Cox who could add to that, 564 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: especially Micah Parsons. But is there a chance that the 565 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys slowed down Austin Eckler kind of how Washington ended 566 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: up doing last week fifteen carries for fifty seven yards. 567 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: He's still got that touchdown. It was a run up 568 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: the middle on the left side just from the goal 569 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: line or inside the five yard line or whatever it 570 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: ended up being. But is there a chance that the 571 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: Cowboys slow him down and bottle them up like the 572 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: football team did, Well, you're gonna have to. And Austin 573 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: Ekeler is still nursing a hamstring hamstring injury, so that 574 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: may be something to watch. But still, I mean, he's 575 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: one of those churners. He's a guy that gets into 576 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: a pile, he continues to move his legs. He obviously 577 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: goes to Isaiah's jim because this kid is yoked. He 578 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: is a big, old guy, big and physical as well. 579 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: But I like, I mean, the thing with Austin Ekeler is, 580 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, he lolls you the sleep the way that 581 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: he runs, and then with the combination of round Tree, 582 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: I can see how that could be beneficial to them. 583 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: But number one objective for this defense is going to 584 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: be stopping the running game, because if the Chargers are 585 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: able to get that going, everything else is going to be, 586 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, just candy for them. Yeah. I think I 587 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: think that's kind of just back doing what Heckman said 588 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: and what I said earlier in terms of just us 589 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: flowing to the ball. I think as long as our 590 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: guys running hit like they did last week, I think 591 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: we'll be okay. I think you throw Jalen in and 592 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 1: Vanderesh a little more and then you have the even more. 593 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's kind like bringing in Joel Frasier, right, 594 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: you get to get to get the heavy hitters in 595 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: there and then boom pop him out of airlands, bring 596 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: a speed right, and just being able to mix it up. 597 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a huge factor for us 598 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: as long as we can wrap up. I don't think 599 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to guil go off against us. 600 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: We're shying away from the elephant in the room. 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We just 653 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: played that drop like so, I mean defensively obviously last 654 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: week with all the the receiving yards that we gave up. 655 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about Austin Ekeler and what the 656 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: running game could do. Obviously there's a matchup that we're 657 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: looking for here, uh, and it's between we talked about 658 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: zone versus man. But also who are we going to relegate? 659 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean, are we saying Brown and Lewis are going 660 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: to take over? Uh for the Mike Williams uh duties, 661 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: the Keenan Allen duties. How do you guys see that 662 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 1: unfolding for our defense? Well, I'm curious to see if 663 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs is just gonna travel every week, you know 664 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: he basically mean he shadowed Mike Evans for the most 665 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: part in week one. Is that going to be a 666 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: regular thing? You know? Is that is? Hey, you're sticking 667 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen for four quarters? Like, I'm curious to see 668 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: if that's what they do or if they play sides. 669 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: You know I would do it. Would y'all do it? Uh? 670 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: You know when I like what Isaiah was saying, big 671 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: on big and and I like you, I think that 672 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: that is more to our advantage in a zone coverage 673 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: kind of way. And I think if you do that, 674 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: you don't have to travel, or if you do zone 675 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: on one side man on another, It just depends on 676 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: how where Quinn is with his guys. I just feel 677 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: like when you look at the Charges, they have guys 678 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: like Jalen Guyton's the tight end that we just talked 679 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: about Cook, and you know they're running back combination as well. 680 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: They may not have the three headed monster receiver, but 681 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: they have three guys that can actually be that one guy. 682 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm just really intrigued on how we 683 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: go into this matchup. And I want to see as 684 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: much flat as he's taken this week. I want to 685 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: see Anthony Brown rebound from this game because when it 686 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: comes down when you said they're gonna take the shots 687 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: with Keenan Allen based off of the tape that they see, 688 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna do it right. But also Keenan Allen's thing 689 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 1: is those those those middle routes and I think that 690 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: plays into I hope it plays into Anthony Brown's willhouse 691 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: to be able to fend that better versus you know, 692 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: those goal routes. Do you think the lessons learned against 693 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay last Thursday are going to benefit this team 694 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: now that they don't have to go up against just 695 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: the gear amount of weaponry this week. I mean, we're 696 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: talking about Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and Jerry Cook 697 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: like they're I mean, they're respectable players, but they are 698 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: not what the Cowboys saw one week one bye. It's 699 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: a different stretch of the imagine skill sets. It really 700 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: is different skill sets. You look at last week and 701 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: what we face. He had a big Mike Evans, right, 702 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: they had one big receiver. After that, you had freaking 703 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: Godwin who's shifty with speed, and you had Antonio Brown, 704 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: who's freaking however many years ago s right, I mean, speed, shifty, 705 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, just intelligence all that. So this week it's size. 706 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: This week is pure size. It's six two freaking Keenan Allen, 707 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: who's one of the top five receivers in the league, right, 708 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: and then you on the other side, you have somebody 709 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: who's more of a even a deep threat than he is, 710 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: who's six four, who has a four to five inch 711 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: advantage depending on if you want to put Brown or 712 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: George Lewis on him. But and this week is gonna 713 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: tack taking back five to six inch. I'm sorry, Yeah, no, 714 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: that's that's absolutely correct. And you think about the Chargers. 715 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: But then next week you go up against Philadelphia, who 716 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: again they have some receivers that are this is the NFL. Yeah, 717 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: I mean, every week's gonna be a new every week's 718 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna gonna be a challenge, right, but again, compared to 719 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: last week, compared to last week, now we have you know, 720 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: we talked about matchups. You just you just talked about 721 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: how we need to be able to match guys up. 722 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: I think it's unrealistic. Obviously playing his own, it's unrealistic 723 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: to put freaking a five ten or five eleven on 724 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: a six four guy who pretty much beats everybody who 725 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: he comes across. That's unreal that's an unrealistic ask. Now, 726 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: you can give him support, right, Heck, you could get 727 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: some support and put guys over the top. And I 728 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: know coach came back and said that, you know, he 729 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: didn't he was supposed to have help over the top 730 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: and all that. But it doesn't matter. If I look 731 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: out there and I see I see Anthony Brown, no 732 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: disrespect him. I'm just off of attributes alone. If I 733 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: see Anthony Brown out there against against Williams, I'm throwing 734 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: a jump ball. I'm throwing a jump ball because guess what, 735 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm either gonna he's either go up and make him 736 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: play because he's just bigger than you. Not necessarily, it 737 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be better all that kind of stuff. 738 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: He's just bigger than you, or I'm gonna i'ma gonna 739 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: flag ye because you're trying to hold on. Make them 740 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: make a decision. Absolutely. The Washington put a smaller corner 741 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: on Williams a couple times last week. It was man 742 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: to man throw it up. Yeah, it's one reason why 743 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: the philosophy they have in terms of length and corners 744 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: with size. I mean, that's that's the way this league's going. 745 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: You're getting these bigger and bigger receivers every year with 746 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: this tremendous athletic skill set. And that's what you know. 747 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: If you can find a corner, that's not the fluidity 748 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: to do it. Now in the Sean right ready for this, 749 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: I guess is the question. And so that that's the question, right, 750 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: because this is why you drafted him. Sure, this is 751 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: why you went up and drafted because he guess what, 752 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: coaches looked at the schedule and he said six two 753 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: six four, Yeah, we're gonna need somebody to go up 754 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: against those zous and right now, we don't have that 755 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: on our roster. Right, we got our we got our 756 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: number one and Diggs right, but he's he's even only 757 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: a second year guy. So Dig's got baptized and baptized 758 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: by fire last last year. He might you know, Nashan 759 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: might have to do the same thing. But guess what 760 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: we got to find out? You sound like hick, Yeah, yeah, 761 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: we're happy and not where the drop. He was saying 762 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: that this is why you grabbed him. This is why 763 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: for why else would you have got Nashan right, Knight? 764 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: Not for Antonio Brown. No, you're right. I mean when 765 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 1: they drafted Nashan Right, it was puzzling to every draft 766 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: expert out there. It was puzzling to everybody. But then 767 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: he got out there and you're like, Okay, now I 768 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: get it, size, speed, combination, but why did you do 769 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: it so early, it's because you knew you were going 770 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: to go up against guys like this. So if they 771 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: don't throw him out there, that means two things. Either 772 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: one he's not ready or two that's not why they 773 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: drafted him. And I don't see the second one being 774 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: the case. I don't either. It's just like Rob said, 775 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: it is baseline. Is Nashan right ready to go? Well, 776 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: you've got you got veteran corner ahead of him on 777 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: the depth chart to Kennedy has been in this league 778 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: a while and as you know, started and played games. 779 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think if they want to make 780 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: a change at some point, they would go to Maurice 781 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: And I think we give we give Kennedy. I gave 782 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: Kennedy a lot of credit because of what he did 783 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: in otays and preseason getting those those interceptions. He was 784 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: as impressive as anybody in camp. But if you I 785 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: always look, you know, I was looking at a guy's career. 786 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: You know, what has he done in his career? Has 787 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: he been that in games? Speed? Do we have tape 788 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: to show in game that he's been that? Dude? And 789 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't think we have a lot of that. I mean, 790 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: he played two snaps, I believe the last game, and 791 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: that's not enough, and especially when you're getting beat like 792 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: a drum in the secondary. So he needs enough, He 793 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: needs an opportunity, but real quickly before we wrap things up, 794 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: kind of along the same lines as a veteran who 795 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: didn't see any playing time, Malie Cooker, that did we 796 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: ever figure out why he was inactive last week? Was 797 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: it just a numbers thing? Yeah? I mean I think 798 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: they're just they're they're trying to ramp him up. They 799 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: barely got to see him in training camp, honestly, and 800 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: they're just going off of his his history. He doesn't 801 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: he hasn't played special teams in his career. So if 802 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be on defense, then what's the role 803 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,479 Speaker 1: for him on game day? I think? But Stephen Jones 804 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: said on the fan a couple of days ago, like, 805 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: I think we're going to see him in a uniform 806 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: this week. Probably they want to see what he can do. Eventually, 807 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: they're just trying to get him back to uh, you 808 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: know football. You know, he didn't get back into practice 809 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: till we got back from Coxnard. There were a couple breaks, 810 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: of course against Tampa Bay, and there always will be 811 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: because it's Tom Brady in that offense. But in terms 812 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: of the play that you saw from Demante Kayz, did 813 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: it make you feel comfortable about the safety position moving 814 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: forward or do you feel like Hooker's going to come 815 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: in and immediately have an opportunity to challenge for a 816 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 1: starting spot. I think this whole secondaries up for grabs, 817 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: I think so. I think I think there's gonna be 818 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: some opportunities or to get in there and get some snaps. 819 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: I was shot. See how it plays out. I was 820 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: shocked Curse played as many snaps as he did. Yeah, 821 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I would say because he was was fair, 822 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: you know, the the forcing the turnover at the end, 823 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 1: the goals that was big, you know. But we've talked 824 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: about safety and trying to get somebody in here that 825 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: could be impactful. Now we're getting another safety on that 826 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: doesn't play any special teams. I just want to know 827 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: how this is all going to work out. If we're 828 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: gonna have three safeties, you know, free s, how are 829 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: we going to do this? Because I mean, you gotta 830 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: we got some guys by bye week six, they're gonna 831 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: be coming on to this roster year. Everybody won't be here. Yeah, 832 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: the curse thing was interesting because I think that was 833 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: more of the tight end deal, the double tight ends, 834 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: Like that's kind of the role they envisioned for him 835 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: when they signed him, and that was an expense I 836 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: think of Jalen Smith and Layton Vandersch. So maybe depending 837 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: on the matchups, because we keep talking about matchups, and 838 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: maybe that balances things out a little bit. He's not 839 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: gonna get forty snaps like he did in the first game. 840 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: Less curse, more Elfie, more Jalen Smith, especially if if 841 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: the Chargers don't go a ton of twelve personnel and 842 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: don't throw two tight ends out there, because I don't 843 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: see them doing that nearly as much as what Tampa 844 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: Bay did last week. But that's gonna do it for 845 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: us here on Talking Cowboys. Glad you've been with us 846 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: here over the last forty minutes. Special thanks to Chris 847 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: Beam in the bank and heck my Harrison. What are 848 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: you pointing out isam three days, three watches? Can't hire 849 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: money over here with heck my Harrison. Goodness, gracious the 850 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: watch game, this whole thing, Oh because for Harrison, for 851 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, right, Yeomans We'll see you tomorrow with more 852 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys, presented by Tostitos. This has been a production 853 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: of Dallas cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clock.