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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how we all doing here on a Wednesday. Chris

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Speaker 2: Brown Steve Tasker both back in the saddle here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Thanks for joining us, making us a

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Speaker 2: part of your afternoon on MSG Bill's apph so good

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Speaker 2: to have you with us as today is the first

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Speaker 2: day of the new league year. I'm fresh, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: fresh off vacation, ready to go here. I had a

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Speaker 2: nice family bigcation down in Cousow Steve, one of those

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Speaker 2: ABC islands. As they called you.

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Speaker 1: To leave the planet, it sounds like a Star Wars planet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, I was in the I was in

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Speaker 2: sector seven, Sector seven, Yeah, the galaxy in Courus. I

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Speaker 2: had never been there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We went on my son's suggestion, who's a major explorer.

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Speaker 2: You know, when your kids are in their twenties and

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Speaker 2: they don't live in town, the only way to spend

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Speaker 2: any appreciable time with them is to pay for a

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Speaker 2: vacation and invite them exactly. That's kind of how it

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Speaker 2: works for us now. Yeah, So we got my daughter

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Speaker 2: and son to join us down there for a week

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Speaker 2: and it was great. It was just good to get

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Speaker 2: out of the winter weather which is now turned rainy

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Speaker 2: and stupid. Although we're supposed to get snow this weekend

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Speaker 2: here yeah, change tomorrow, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, welcome to spring.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know what you're gonna get. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: we had a great time, got some good beach time in,

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Speaker 2: did some deep fishing. Yeah, and me and the boy

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Speaker 2: we go deep sea fishing. So down there, which for

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Speaker 2: those that don't know, Courisa is near Venezuela. It's like

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Speaker 2: forty miles off the coast. So we're down there, like

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Speaker 2: we flew through Atlanta. It's three and a half hour

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Speaker 2: flight from Atlanta just to get there. And it's windy

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Speaker 2: this time of year on this island, and the you know,

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Speaker 2: the northeast trade winds are blowing through if you say so, well,

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Speaker 2: you know the ones that brought all the explorers to

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Speaker 2: the Caribbean. You know, they're looking for America. They hit

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Speaker 2: the Caribbean instead because of these trade winds come out

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Speaker 2: of the east. So me and my son book a

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Speaker 2: fishing boat, you know, to take us where the fish are.

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Speaker 2: We're going to catch some fish. So okay, So we

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Speaker 2: get there and Ashmar tells us, first of all, I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at his boat, which I wasn't expecting to be big.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't. It's small. Just tell me it had an engine.

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Speaker 2: It didn't have it had an engine. We didn't have

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Speaker 2: to row. But there's basically two bench seats in front

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Speaker 2: of his like captain's area, with the steering wheel dead

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Speaker 2: center of this thing. And it's probably about sixteen feet

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Speaker 2: long and probably probably about six seven feet wide, and

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Speaker 2: we got an eighty five horse power on the back.

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking at this wind, and I you know,

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Speaker 2: growing up on Long Island and being out on the Atlantic,

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Speaker 2: I know we're in the Caribbean Ocean or the Caribbean Sea,

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Speaker 2: whatever you call it. I'm looking at this wind. And

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Speaker 2: then Ashmar starts telling us to get to where the

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Speaker 2: fish are, we're gonna have to sacrifice a little and

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Speaker 2: that I didn't need any translation for that, because what

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Speaker 2: that meant was we're going to be fighting it right

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Speaker 2: for like the first forty five minutes of this boat outing,

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Speaker 2: just to get to the spot where the fish are.

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Speaker 2: We get out there outside of the little inlet, you

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Speaker 2: know where the port is. The port, dude, I am

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Speaker 2: not joking. We're doing five to six foot swells in

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Speaker 2: what amounts to a dingy Oh my gosh, And I

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Speaker 2: am telling you for forty five minutes, straight up and

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Speaker 2: like off the bench seat, out of my chair, boom

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Speaker 2: up again, boom, like easily one thousand to fifteen hundred

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Speaker 2: times before we got to the spot. Now we caught

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Speaker 2: some tuna. We caught like four different kinds of tuna.

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Speaker 2: I was unaware there were this many. No giant tuna

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Speaker 2: in the Caribbean Sea. That's only in the North Atlantic.

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Speaker 2: You're the ones you see on Wicked Tuna that show

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Speaker 2: the big giant blue fin bluefin, Yeah, they're in the

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Speaker 2: North Atlantic. We caught all the others, which was cool.

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Speaker 2: Nothing huge, like maybe the biggest fish we caught was

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Speaker 2: We caught them all, which was kind of cool. And

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Speaker 2: but they fight you.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: We got about, you know, ten twelve fish in the boat.

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Speaker 2: And it's still the waves all day, just all day,

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Speaker 2: I saw the wind forecast, we would have been in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Like breakfast would have been in the ocean. So oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, I can't stand up and sit down

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Speaker 1: I would have I would have like paid the money

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Speaker 1: and stayed back. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The best part of the trip was coming back because

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Speaker 2: we were going with the current, with the wind and

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Speaker 2: with the waves right. But going out, man, that was

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Speaker 2: that was rough. Coolest part though, was you know, he's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: how many of these you want to keep? I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: just give us like two, because I mean there's four

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Speaker 2: There's no way to eat it all. So he filays,

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Speaker 2: you know, he cuts it up for us, throw it

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Speaker 2: poke a bowl with the fresh tuna.

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Speaker 2: And then I just pan seared some and made it

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Speaker 2: like Ahi style. It was like butter.

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Speaker 1: Nice, butter Man not worth seasickness.

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Speaker 2: But Butter went to some unbelievable beaches, which my wife

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Speaker 2: something with cliffs you could jump off into the water. Turkey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a long kind of strip kind of island,

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Speaker 2: and it is a little it's drier down there. It's

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Speaker 2: Dutch commonwealth. They speak, They have their own island language there, Popiamentu,

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Speaker 2: I didn't get anywhere past that, which is a good

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Speaker 2: good day. So yeah, but great trip, great trip.

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Speaker 1: It was just good to have you back. We missed

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Speaker 1: you missed you last week. Not well up until a

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Speaker 1: lot of twenty four. A lot happened. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I know everybody listens. Just Sabers Live was on right

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Speaker 1: before us, and we listened to all that listen this.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you're gone. The Sabers are killing it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you.

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Speaker 2: Know what we were keeping tabs on it. My son

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Speaker 2: and I I was the game.

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Speaker 1: This game is not I was out. I was the

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Speaker 1: game last night too. And the the place it's I

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Speaker 1: remember it. It's getting back to exactly the way it

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Speaker 1: used to be. I mean, you stand up for the anthem,

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Speaker 1: it's shoulders shoulder, everybody's there. The place was crazy last night.

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Speaker 1: I got I don't know, I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: allowed to say it, but said they I got contact

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Speaker 1: by the Sabs. I'm going to bang the drum on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of cool. But it's unbelievable. They're really good.

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Speaker 1: It's not like just a hot streak. Oh no, they

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Speaker 1: can play all of them.

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Speaker 2: That's fun again, let's go.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm in I'm in full Sabers mode here

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Speaker 1: on the first day of the new league year in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. That's fine. By the way, the new league

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Speaker 1: year starts. I know most of our listeners. It's four

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Speaker 1: o'clock today, an hour after we get off the air.

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Speaker 1: This the stuff that's been going on. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of our listeners have heard about it. But the

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby stuff and all the deals are the restructuring

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Speaker 1: of Josh. We're gonna get into all of it. But man,

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Speaker 1: oh man, there's for being springtime and fifty six and

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Speaker 1: raining out and nobody has even to do. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot going on.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get right into that with some of the

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Speaker 2: bills notes first and foremost, and as Steve mentioned, the

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Speaker 2: bills convert fifteen point two million of quarterback Josh Allen's

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Speaker 2: salary into signing bonus, clearing twelve million of twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six cap space. So this should help them in their

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Speaker 2: aim to become cap compliant by four pm today the

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Speaker 2: start of the new league year. So now all told

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Speaker 2: Steve by my account anyway, they restructured Spencer Brown's contract

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Speaker 2: creating ten million in cap space, Josh Allen's contract twelve

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Speaker 2: million in cap space, Ed Oliver's contract ten million in

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Speaker 2: cap space, Tyler Bass's contract one point nine to two

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Speaker 2: million in cap space, and a new three year deal

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Speaker 2: for Dawson Knox reportedly, and we haven't seen what those

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Speaker 2: numbers have done to help in terms of cap space.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine they will.

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Speaker 1: So it was Spencer, Ed, Josh, ty Tyler, and presumably

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Speaker 1: Dawson Knox's new deal creates additional cap space as well.

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Speaker 1: So we still don't have the numbers on on Knox's contract.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's why I was saying, we don't know what

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Speaker 2: it's saved, but we're presuming it saved something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's that time of year. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: they could only get twelve out of Josh's There's a big,

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Speaker 1: big mistake because some of the national reporters were saying

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Speaker 1: that they cleared forty million dollars of cap space from JOI.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't. It was fifteen. It was twelve plus. So

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Speaker 1: they are they do have some breathing room, and there

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Speaker 1: are players to be had, most notably Max Crosby still

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Speaker 2: Right, which brings us to Around the NFL, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, and ESPN. We'll get to Max Crosby in

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Speaker 2: a second. ESPN is reporting that the NFL is now

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Speaker 2: exploring the possibility of having an NFL regular season game

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Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving Eve, and it could come as early as

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Speaker 2: this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, if that does come to pass, the league would

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Speaker 2: have a game on Wednesday of Thanksgiving week, Wednesday night,

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Speaker 2: three games on Thanksgiving, a Black Friday game, and then

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Speaker 2: a full slate of games on Sunday or whatever games

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Speaker 2: around and maybe even a Saturday game. Who knows. I

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Speaker 2: might say, well, throw the hell with it, throw throw

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Speaker 2: a game on Saturday too, because they don't even care

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Speaker 2: about the college season anymore, like they just do whatevery.

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Speaker 1: The well with the nil and the transfer portal college

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Speaker 1: has lost some of its romantic romanticizing about it. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's easy, it's it's it's it's a rival program.

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Speaker 2: That's a heck of a week.

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Speaker 1: Uh, that's correct. That's Wednesday night through Sunday night and

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Speaker 1: Monday night.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, then you have Monday, yeah, the following Monday.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. I just the teams that are playing in

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Speaker 2: that Wednesday night game have to have a buy the

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Speaker 2: week before.

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Speaker 1: They have to Yeah, they have. One of them's got

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Speaker 1: to have a buy a new or play on a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: The other ones we've got to have that Thursday game.

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Speaker 2: Because and I'm wondering where the Bills fit into all

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Speaker 2: of that, because we already know they are not playing

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be Wednesday night game, or they're gonna be

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Speaker 2: And it's getting harder and harder. Which with each standalone

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Speaker 2: motivated to move him off the roster. Let's not forget

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Speaker 2: Crosby was the guy that said I'm out of here.

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Speaker 2: I'm not yes, but here's how about this though.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're Max Crosby and you got teams

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Speaker 1: that are saying we don't want any part of you,

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Speaker 1: does he look at the Raiders say you were protecting

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Speaker 1: me from myself because these my knees now messed and

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Speaker 1: you were trying to protect me from it. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: looks at the Raiders a little bit more favorably, like, dude,

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Speaker 1: we told you now, sir. There might have been a

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Speaker 1: conversation like Max, we're gonna shut you down. We ain't

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Speaker 1: winning this game. That's the conversation. That's different. Crosby. He's

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Speaker 1: got to look at himself now in the mirror and go,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, am I am I alone in this here?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? I would not be surprised now given this.

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Speaker 1: We're a quality fan and I'm say what you want

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Speaker 1: about the Rim. They have been in the run. They're

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Speaker 1: quality franchise. If you've got one of those, like the Giants,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Steelers, those, you know, those quality franchise.

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Speaker 1: Looking at you, going, I don't think so, Bro, the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys doctor said, now I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That changes your That changes your point of view about yourself, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Crosby might be saying, you know what, guys, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll come back play for you.

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Speaker 2: NFL clubs that missed out on Hendrickson and don't want

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Speaker 2: to give up two picks for Crosby are said to

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Speaker 2: be targeting Minnesota pass rusher Jonathan Grenard, who would not

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Speaker 2: cost as much in a trade. Grenard struggled through a

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Speaker 2: three sax season last year, but had back to back

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Speaker 2: twelve sax seasons in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: and while the Washington Commanders are signing another pass rusher,

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Speaker 2: inking Patriots edge Kalavon Chason to a one year, twelve

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Speaker 2: million dollar packed after he put up a seven and

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Speaker 2: a half SAX season last year. As you know, the

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Speaker 2: Commanders agreed to a deal with Chargers free agent ut

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Speaker 2: A fao Way earlier in the week. In an unrelated move,

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Speaker 2: the Patriots released outside linebacker Anthony Jennings. Player release news.

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Speaker 2: With four o'clock being the start of the new league year,

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Speaker 2: it is expected the Arizona Cardinals are going to release

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Speaker 2: quarterback Kyler Murray at four pm today and the San

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Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine Ers are going to release wide receiver

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Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk. The scuttle bud is Ayuk will end up

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Speaker 2: with the Washington Commanders, who have apparently been interested for

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Speaker 2: over a year in his services. So we'll see what

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Speaker 2: comes of that. So that's around the NFL topic of

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Speaker 2: discussion for you today obviously concerns the Bills and our

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Speaker 2: question for you with free agency underway, what's the next

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Speaker 2: move you need to see from the Bills in free agency?

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Speaker 2: Hit us up on the tweet sheet at one Bills

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Speaker 2: Live and give us your thoughts there. Steve and I

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Speaker 2: take a break and we'll get to those thoughts when

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Speaker 2: we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and there's more signing news that's

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Speaker 2: coming down throughout the day. We'll try to keep you

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Speaker 2: updated as best we can, but we are discussing with

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Speaker 2: you today what you want to see next from the

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Speaker 2: Bills in free agency. Maybe you had a player in mind,

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's a positional need you want to see addressed

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Speaker 2: here sooner rather than later. So what's the next move

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Speaker 2: you need to see from the Bills in free agency?

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Speaker 2: Hit us up on the tweet sheet at One Bills Live.

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Speaker 2: I mean, based on what we've seen so far, Steve,

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Speaker 2: you know you can tell that the Bills are going

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Speaker 2: to be utilizing what I would call a plan. We've

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Speaker 2: seen from them before. They're not super active in the

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Speaker 2: initial wave of free agency, when teams are thrown around

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Speaker 2: gobs of money. They wait for that second wave, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's why we haven't seen a flurry of

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Speaker 2: activity from them. I'm sure they're talking to a lot

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Speaker 2: of people, but in terms of spending the money, I

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Speaker 2: think that's gonna come in the second wave. So maybe

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Speaker 2: somewhere around this time next week, maybe late next week,

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Speaker 2: some more things could be happening where the more affordable

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Speaker 2: options that are still sitting out there a week into

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Speaker 2: free agency, suddenly their price drops a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 2: or maybe they overestimated what their market value was. For example.

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Speaker 2: I think and we anticipated this for about the third

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Speaker 2: straight off season, the safety market is depressed in terms

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Speaker 2: of what players are garnering on the open market. And

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Speaker 2: it's not only because this year specifically the safety market

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about this year. It's not only because there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of them out there once again veteran

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Speaker 2: free agents at the safety position. It's a dang goods

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Speaker 2: safety class in the draft this year. So teams are

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Speaker 2: not gonna be apt to pounce on a safety that's

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Speaker 2: asking for a lot of money. They're gonna hold their

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Speaker 2: water because if they have any kind of appreciable draft capital,

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Speaker 2: they're just gonna say to that I'm not paying eight

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Speaker 2: to a year for a safety. I can get one

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Speaker 2: on a rookie contract for less than half of that.

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Speaker 1: If you get one of these proven guys to take

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Speaker 1: a small vent minimum with a ton of incentives, that'd

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Speaker 1: be awesome. But you get safeties out there like Jakwan

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Speaker 1: Brisker is out there, Jalen Hawkins's yard, Nick Cross, Nick Scott.

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Speaker 1: There's a ton of safeties out there who can play.

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Speaker 1: They're not as fun to think about as one of

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Speaker 1: the shiny safeties you saw run at the combine, but

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Speaker 1: they're more proven and I think they're probably and there's.

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Speaker 2: Value in that. Yeah, I don't think there's any debate,

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Speaker 2: but I just I just think that the safety market

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Speaker 2: has been a tough place. If you can get top

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Speaker 2: of the market money, if you could get.

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Speaker 1: Some of these veteran safeties, any of these veterans safeties

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Speaker 1: to sign what Mike up Hyde and Jordan Poyer signed

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Speaker 1: with eight years ago, like five million a year. Everybody like,

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Speaker 1: wow that you know, a five year deal for thirty

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Speaker 1: five million, right, it was something like that, and we

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Speaker 1: were like, what are they paying? Yeah that was back then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you do it, but you know, these guys the

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Speaker 1: positions to vibe. We had this conversation yesterday Brownie with

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Speaker 1: me and Maddie where you get these resets in each

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Speaker 1: position and how big a percentage of the cap. They are.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks have always been about eighteen percent of the cap,

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Speaker 1: but you can structure it however you want year to

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Speaker 1: year and all these others, you know, like the veteran minimums,

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Speaker 1: they're like a half a percentage point of the cap.

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Speaker 1: That's one point five million. That's that's half a percent

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Speaker 1: of a three hundred million dollar tax, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: salary cap. So if you've got this position group, and

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Speaker 1: in this time we're talking about safeties, sometimes you'll have

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Speaker 1: a safety hit a home run and reset that market

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Speaker 1: like Tyler Linderbaum set it for centers. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know that resets it now the best centers are going

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Speaker 1: to be making up up there like that money. I

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Speaker 1: think safeties have yet to do that.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and when they keep coming in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a little bit like wide receiver. You've got

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Speaker 1: to be something unbelievable to reset the market in a

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Speaker 1: groom where there's new guys at that position that are

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Speaker 1: coming out, who are gifted, who have you know that

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Speaker 1: they can get to play on a rookie contract. That

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Speaker 1: you've got to be off the charts to do that,

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Speaker 1: and those guys are rare.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you know couple it with the fact that

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've looked at it because you know, the

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Speaker 2: Bills have been in the market for a safety the

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Speaker 2: last few years ever since you know, Hide kind of

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Speaker 2: lined up and then Taylor did, and yeah, and routinely

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Speaker 2: there are anywhere between fifteen to twenty starting safeties whose

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Speaker 2: contracts are up and are in the free agent market.

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Speaker 2: And you know, outside of the few that signed for

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Speaker 2: big money, you know, whether it's you know, the guys

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Speaker 2: from Cincinnati like Geno Stone signed a big contract a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and there are others, but they

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Speaker 2: are the exception, they are not the rule. And I

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Speaker 2: think the Bills are kind of lying in the weeds,

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Speaker 2: waiting for the second wave of free agency, hoping the

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Speaker 2: market drifts south in terms of asking prize at some positions.

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Speaker 2: And I would expect them to get busy, maybe right

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Speaker 2: around this time next week, maybe even late next week,

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Speaker 2: depending how things fall over the next few days and

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Speaker 2: through the weekend. But at one Bill's Live is where

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Speaker 2: you hit us up with your comments on what you

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Speaker 2: think the next move needs to be from the Bills

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Speaker 2: in free agency. And let's go to that tweetsheet right now,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

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Speaker 2: moving company and the Buffalo Bills, and Connor says, we

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Speaker 2: need defensive help. What does leonard envision for this defense?

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Speaker 2: There are plenty of media and podcast outlets that discuss

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Speaker 2: what they think the right fit of players should be

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Speaker 2: for the Bills. We have yet to see or hear

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Speaker 2: what the coaching staff believes are the right players. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right, Connor. We're a little bit in the dark there.

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Speaker 2: I think if there is one thing I feel most

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Speaker 2: confident in saying the Bills will add to the defensive

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Speaker 2: side of the ball, it is speed off the edge.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that is desperate for faster players

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Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball, particularly in their

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Speaker 2: front seven. They are not a fast front seven. You

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Speaker 2: look at the Seattle Seahawks. They got eleven guys last

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Speaker 2: year that could run. All of them could run like deer.

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Speaker 2: Even the defensive tackles were athletic. The Bill's defense has

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Speaker 2: not been that and they're trying to increase their team speed,

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Speaker 2: Max Harrison being one of the latest examples in last

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Speaker 2: year's draft with pick thirty one overall. But they need

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Speaker 2: an influx of speed desperately, particularly for their pass rush,

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Speaker 2: and so I think they're going to be mining for

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Speaker 2: that at outside linebacker. I mean, you look at what

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Speaker 2: Jim Leonard utilized in a manner speaking, he wasn't the

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator in Denver, but has utilized defensive systems that

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Speaker 2: have been predicated on having speed off the edge. Just

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Speaker 2: look at the Denver defense, Nick Benito, Jonathan Cooper, speed

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Speaker 2: demon outside linebackers that can bend the corner and get

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Speaker 2: to the quarterback quickly. The Bills do not have that

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Speaker 2: anywhere on the roster right now. So I feel very

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Speaker 2: confident in saying they need to add speed guys off

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Speaker 2: the edge. There is there anything else that sticks out

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Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball that, despite the

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Speaker 2: scheme change, you feel confident they will add.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, safety and some and I think they're also gonna

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get some guys that rush the passer with

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Speaker 1: their hand off the ball. I think Mike Hoyt is

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Speaker 1: a prototypical guy they would love to get. They would

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Speaker 1: like to get another guy like him. Now, the thing

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Speaker 1: that sets Hoyt apart is intellect. He's a really smart

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Speaker 1: football player, and he's orchestrating things up there where a

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Speaker 1: coach doesn't have to call everything. Hoyd does it kind

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Speaker 1: of on the flight, says hey that I and they'll

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Speaker 1: make a couple of calls and he just he's a

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Speaker 1: game wrecker. Here's the thing. So they signed Hoyt to

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Speaker 1: the deal and he I think he's exactly who they

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Speaker 1: thought he was. But when you're talking about this free

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Speaker 1: agent stuff, particularly in the second wave, you're trying to

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Speaker 1: find a guy that everybody else is looking at and.

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Speaker 2: You see something different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you see something great and nobody else sees it.

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Speaker 1: That's hard to do in a thirty two team.

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Speaker 2: League, especially at a premium position.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to do. It's hard to do. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to find the guy that slip through the cracks for

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Speaker 1: everybody else and you see him as being special and

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Speaker 1: he turns out to be at a cheap price.

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Speaker 2: Or you have to trade for that guy. And I

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Speaker 2: think the guy we mentioned in around the NFL, Jonathan Grenard,

649
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Speaker 2: who's been playing in Minnesota, is coming off a down season.

650
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Speaker 2: But the two you know, three sacks last year had

651
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: some injuries, only played twelve games, started ten. The year

652
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: before that, he had twelve sacks and the year before

653
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Speaker 2: that he had twelve and a half back to back

654
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: twelve sax seasons. They're gonna get you noticed, and so

655
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Speaker 2: I would not be surprised. I don't know this, but

656
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills are on the

657
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: phone with the Vikings saying.

658
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Speaker 1: Hey, what No. I would be surprised if they're not.

659
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And there's there's probably a handful of other

660
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Speaker 2: teams doing the exact same thing.

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Speaker 1: I think it's surprising for a lot of people, and

662
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Speaker 1: it's hard on the people who you know, criticized Brandon

663
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: Bean and you know, that's what you sign up for.

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Speaker 1: When you're GM, You're gonna get criticized. No matter how

665
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: good you do or bad you do, You're you're gonna

666
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Speaker 1: get criticized. But I think people are surprised when like

667
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Speaker 1: the Crosby stuff comes out, the Hendricks and stuff comes out,

668
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Speaker 1: and the teams that are mentioned that's being part of

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Speaker 1: it were the Bills, Brand Brand.

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Speaker 2: He's on the phone.

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Speaker 1: He's on the phone all the time with these I go,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he wasn't on that. Now it doesn't

673
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: always work out because we're not giving up two and

674
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Speaker 1: fifty six million bucks for Max Crosby, or you give

675
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: up more than anybody, And the team says, no, you

676
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: know what, we're not trading this guy in our division.

677
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Speaker 2: That was the Jalen model thing, you know. So they

678
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Speaker 2: gave the best offer.

679
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Speaker 1: So I am convinced Brandon Bean is all over this

680
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Speaker 1: Grenard stuff. And and I think a lot of people

681
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Speaker 1: and I think the symptoms of his philosophy are that

682
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Speaker 1: he's relegated to signing you know, the Josh Palmers and

683
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Speaker 1: the Emmanuel Sanders of the world because other teams. He's

684
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Speaker 1: not willing to go two ones for an aj Brown,

685
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Speaker 1: you know, he's not going to go two ones for

686
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Speaker 1: Max Crosby.

687
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Speaker 2: He doesn't like overpaying, right. But that's I think that's

688
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: part of the reason why presumably the Bills and a

689
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Speaker 2: handful of other teams are interested in Grenard because these

690
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Speaker 2: gms see a guy off a down year that has

691
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Speaker 2: a lot left in the tank and has proven production

692
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Speaker 2: in his in his past, and they say, look, three

693
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Speaker 2: sex season, maybe we can get him at a little

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Speaker 2: bit less of a cost. They're looking for talent that

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Speaker 2: they don't have to pay. Filet Mignon prices.

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Speaker 1: Well think about it, That's exactly what they did with

697
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Speaker 1: DJ Moore. That's DJ Moore as a defensive lineman. He

698
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: was a phenomenally productive dude until this last year when

699
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: they've got two young players that start to get targets

700
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Speaker 1: away from him. You get a brand new head coach,

701
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Speaker 1: and now they kind of moved off of him in

702
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Speaker 1: the pecking order of the receiver's room. He's still you know,

703
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Speaker 1: he's an eight year vet. That's what Brandon Bean hopes

704
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Speaker 1: to find in Dj Moore. Exactly what Grenard is as

705
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Speaker 1: a defensive lineman, a guy who's been highly productive and

706
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, maybe an injury riddled season, whatever,

707
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Speaker 1: they're still gas in the Tank's Grenard is exactly DJ

708
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Speaker 1: Moore is a wide as a defensive lineman. So that's

709
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Speaker 1: exactly what they feel like they got in DJ Moore.

710
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Speaker 1: Guy with a lot of gas in the tank, who's

711
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Speaker 1: really productive, knows what's going on in the NFL's been

712
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: around the block a couple of times, and we're gonna

713
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna plug him in to your offense. And

714
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Speaker 1: in this case, Grenard is exactly the kind of guy

715
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Speaker 1: you're looking at. He's a guy got, like you said,

716
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Speaker 1: went from twelve and a half sacks two years in

717
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Speaker 1: a row, twelve and twelve and a half and I

718
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: had three a little bit nicked up here and there.

719
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Speaker 1: We'll see if we can get him. We'll plug into

720
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Speaker 1: that and maybe we can tap into what he had

721
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Speaker 1: two years ago. That's exactly what DJ Moore is and

722
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Speaker 1: he's and also DJ Moore and I don't know this

723
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Speaker 1: Grenard guy, but DJ Moore tends to be a culture

724
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Speaker 1: fit as well. I mean everybody you talk to anybody

725
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: in Chicago and they're like, oh, man, dude was great,

726
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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Grenard's twenty eight and you know, started his

728
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Speaker 2: career with Houston, so he's got you know, three four

729
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Speaker 2: experience having played at Houston, and he was an outside

730
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Speaker 2: linebacker in Minnesota. So it's a guy that fits the system.

731
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Speaker 2: He would he would make sense for the Bills, I guess,

732
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Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. Do we know that the Bills

733
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Speaker 2: are on the phone talking to them, No, but I

734
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Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if they're one of the handful of

735
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Speaker 2: teams that are supposedly, you know, ringing the Vikings phone.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what comes of it. And if Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Grenard is moved in a trade, because seems to be

738
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Speaker 2: the popular belief that he could be on the move.

739
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Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, but we're going

740
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Speaker 2: to get to more of your comments as far as

741
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Speaker 2: what you feel the Bill's next move needs to be

742
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Speaker 2: in free agency. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by

743
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Speaker 2: Colida Hill. All right, back here on One Bill's Live,

744
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve's tasker with you as we are assessing

745
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: the infancy of free agency this year. Newly year starts

746
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: four pm today. Some players are going to be officially

747
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: released at that time that are under contract, further deepening

748
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: the free agency pool. And so we're asking you today

749
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Speaker 2: what's the next move you need to see from the

750
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: Bills in free agency? We are I think we share

751
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: this opinion that we think that the Bills will probably

752
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: be more active in the second wave of free agency

753
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: when the prices come down, probably sometime next week. But

754
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: short to that, what's the next move you need to

755
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 2: see from the Bills in the free agent market? Add

756
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: One Bills Live is where you tell us your thoughts

757
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: and we are going to go back to the tweetsheet

758
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: now and theo says, My fear is that there aren't

759
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: any needle movers left in free agency. At a minimum,

760
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: we need to at least make some quality moves for

761
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: all three levels of the defense. Well, THEOI, I'll tell you.

762
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: The good news is there is starting caliber talent at

763
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: the safety position, which which Steve believes will be addressed

764
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: probably in the second wave of free agency. And the

765
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: market is a is a buyer's market at the safety

766
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: position and has been for the last three off seasons

767
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: because there are so many capable ones in the market,

768
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: not to mention the fact that it's a good draft class.

769
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: So I think you could get a starting caliber player there. Linebacker. Yeah,

770
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: some top names have you know, been signed up. Caden

771
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: Ellis comes to mind from Atlanta. Leo Chanell just signed

772
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: so he's off the market. But there are others in

773
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: the pool there that you could pick from. And then

774
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see where the edge market goes

775
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: from here. The prices are already starting to come down.

776
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: We just saw Kaylevon Chase On agree to terms with

777
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders on a one year, twelve million dollar deal.

778
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: It's a joy Bosa deal.

779
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So and that's that's the first day of actual

780
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: free agency, so the numbers are already coming down from

781
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: where they were during the tampering period just a couple

782
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: of days ago. So we'll see where it lives next week.

783
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: And you know, maybe the Bills can find a bargain there,

784
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: or perhaps they can pry one away from another team

785
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: via the trade market. I was, I was bullish on this,

786
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: and Steve and I did a whole podcast on how

787
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: the free agent or how the trade market should be

788
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: more robust this offseason because if the ten head coaching

789
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: changes and the subsequent scheme changes that would go with

790
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: those coaches to those new teams, thereby creating players who

791
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: were no longer fits in those systems and lo and behold,

792
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 2: we've seen a fair number of trades through the last

793
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's always they always involved draft picks, but also player

795
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: for player. Players have been switching teams from both sides.

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Speaker 1: I I Houston did it twice in a day, right.

797
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: These regime ch changes mean fundamental change, just like it

798
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: did here in Buffalo, where a lot of it. You know,

799
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: you kind of kept some continuity because they hired a

800
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: guy from within the staff that had been here but

801
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: they switched the defensive side of the ball. So you've

802
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: got half the roster that's got to be switched out

803
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: or at least changed to ask me to be asked

804
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: to do other things in the defense. And it's happened. Yeah,

805
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: there's there's no getting around it. I think this is

806
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna be and this and I get it to needle

807
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: move the needle movers is what the tweet said. I

808
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any ore needle nevers. I don't

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00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: care if they move them the needle today. I want

810
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: them to move the needle in September.

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Speaker 2: Right and ideally in January.

812
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: Like like Hiding Poyer did so many years ago. Like

813
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: you get a fifth round draft pick comes in and

814
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Speaker 1: it turns out to be an all Pro linebacker and

815
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Speaker 1: Matt Mulano. You get a sixth round throwaway pick and

816
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: it turns into a starting cornerback number one in Christian Benford.

817
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: Those are the guys. I mean Benford didn't move the

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00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: needle on draft day, but he still moves the needle

819
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Speaker 1: as a player. That's what you're looking for. We'll never

820
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: We're not going to know this stuff until the whole

821
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: season washes out. But Yeah, I'm totally convinced that they're

822
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: going to sign guys at every level of this defense

823
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 1: in the coming days. Right.

824
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 2: And it's funny because we try from the outside to

825
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: assess where the market is going, how much the prices

826
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Speaker 2: are dropping, and at what positions they're dropping at the

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Speaker 2: free agent pool in terms of supply kind of helps

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Speaker 2: gives you a give you a clue as to what

829
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Speaker 2: the demand will be or not be in the case

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00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: of like the safety position, for example. But I think

831
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: we all know the longer free agency goes, the lower

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00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: the price is at just about every position with very

833
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: few exceptions. So the more this goes without a flurry

834
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: of signings at a given position, for example, the better

835
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Speaker 2: for the Bills because the talent out there becomes more affordable,

836
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Speaker 2: and that's what the Bills are mining for affordable talent

837
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: that makes their roster better. And they are going to

838
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: have to find roster fits because this is a new

839
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: defensive scheme and finding players with experience in a three

840
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: to four scheme. It's important because you can draft players

841
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: that you project to fit to that scheme, but if

842
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: they didn't do it in college, it's a projection and

843
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: you need some certainties in the first year of a

844
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: new defense, and that often comes in the form of

845
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: a veteran player who has done it before. So we

846
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: do expect, you know, the Bills to be getting some

847
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: business done here in the coming days and weeks, and

848
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: it's probably going to be on the defensive side of

849
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: the ball to get some of those much needed fits right.

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00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: And you knew that they had to get cap compliant.

851
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: They've done, which they've been working to do.

852
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: He've been working to do, and they've probably got a

853
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: few more steps they can take as well.

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00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but when we return,

855
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: we're going to be joined by a guy that everybody

856
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: knows these days. It's Aaron Shotts. A lot of you

857
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: guys know him from the old Football Outsider days, but

858
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: now he's an ESPN NFL analyst. So we will catch

859
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: up with Aaron about some of the goings on in

860
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: free agency, which officially begins this afternoon at four, along

861
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: with the way to navigate under this new cap of

862
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: three hundred one million, Aaron Shots coming your way next

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Speaker 2: year on One Bill's locker.

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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live, presented by called lighta Health

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Speaker 1: all Right.

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Speaker 2: Now Number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you as we await the official start of the

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Speaker 2: newly year four pm today and official free agency as

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Speaker 2: it were. And joining us to talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: about that is ESPN NFL analyst Aaron Shots, as you know,

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Speaker 2: a creator of football outsiders, and he's here to join

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Speaker 2: us for some of what we should anticipate here. And

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Speaker 2: I guess Aaron will start logically with the Bills because

874
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: we've seen Brandon Bean take this approach before in light

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Speaker 2: of their cap situation, where anticipating it again usually a

876
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Speaker 2: guy that dips his toe in the water more in

877
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Speaker 2: the second wave of free agency, rather than in the

878
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Speaker 2: first wave where teams tend to overpay, occasionally grossly overpay.

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Speaker 2: My question that I put to you is when do

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Speaker 2: you anticipate that second wave really starting middle of next week,

881
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Speaker 2: late next week? What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, it sort of dribbles in every day.

883
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Speaker 3: You know, well, there'll be some signings later today, there'll

884
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Speaker 3: be a few, tomorrow, there'll be a few the next day.

885
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's a day where you're like, Okay,

886
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Speaker 3: this is the start of the second wave. It's more

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Speaker 3: like the first wave was everything that happened on Monday, Yeah,

888
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Speaker 3: and the second wave is just sort of everything that

889
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Speaker 3: happens after that.

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Speaker 1: So, I know, early on you had the Bills maybe

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Speaker 1: getting into Mike Mike Evans sweepstake, signing him into a

892
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Speaker 1: free agent contract. He subsequently signs with the Bucks, but

893
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Speaker 1: the Bills do get in on it with a trade

894
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Speaker 1: for DJ Moore. When you kind of hang out here

895
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Speaker 1: in Western New York, this culture has kind of taken

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Speaker 1: on a life of its own, even though it was

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Speaker 1: a Sean McDermott product. Joe Brady was a big part

898
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Speaker 1: of it, and they continue that with a you know,

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Speaker 1: Walter Payton guy, a DJ Moore who's a wide receiver

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Speaker 1: kind of guy. What are your thoughts on getting DJ

901
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Speaker 1: Moore and the production he may or may not have

902
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Speaker 1: in the tank.

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Speaker 3: The tough part is figuring out why DJ Morris production

904
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Speaker 3: was down last year, because it was by basically any

905
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Speaker 3: metric you use, whether they're regular or advanced. The question

906
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Speaker 3: is did he slow down or was it an issue

907
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: where the other receivers on the team were so much

908
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Speaker 3: better than they had been in past years that he

909
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Speaker 3: just couldn't draw the number of targets that he'll be

910
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Speaker 3: able to draw with Buffalo, right, and Buffalo he'll be

911
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Speaker 3: the number one receiver. Right, there's no Roma Dunesa, there's

912
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Speaker 3: no I mean, there's Kincaid, but I don't know if

913
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Speaker 3: he's quite as productive as Colston Loveland at tight end,

914
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Speaker 3: Like there's not. You know, he's going to be the

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Speaker 3: number one guy. So does he go back to being

916
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Speaker 3: what he was two and three years ago? Or is

917
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Speaker 3: he having trouble getting open? And the reason why he

918
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Speaker 3: wasn't getting targeted last year is not because of his teammates,

919
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: but because he himself was having trouble getting open. And

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Speaker 3: you really you'd have to watch the film pretty closely

921
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Speaker 3: to figure out which of those is it is. And

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Speaker 3: I think that Buffalo believes that it's not that he

923
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Speaker 3: himself is having trouble getting open.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And then with respect to the division, you know,

925
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Speaker 2: we saw some other teams make some moves at the

926
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Speaker 2: receiver position, most notably the Patriots who released Stefan Diggs

927
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Speaker 2: after only one year and then turned around and signed

928
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Speaker 2: Romeo Dowbs, who, granted has a concussion history, but is

929
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Speaker 2: another guy that I think might be hard to discern

930
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Speaker 2: what production you can realistically expect for him because he

931
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Speaker 2: was in a crowded group of receivers in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: How would you how do you see the Patriots kind

933
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Speaker 2: of extrapolating that in making the decision to sign him.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a slightly inferior version of Diggs who

935
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Speaker 3: can do a lot of what Diggs did, not quite

936
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Speaker 3: as well, but younger. I think you can sort of

937
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Speaker 3: say that it's likely that Romeo Dobbs in twenty twenty

938
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Speaker 3: six will be about what Stefon Diggs was going to

939
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Speaker 3: be in twenty twenty six, not what Stefon Diggs was,

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Speaker 3: you know, in twenty twenty one and in twenty twenty

941
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Speaker 3: five even But Dobbs is a good receiver who can

942
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Speaker 3: do everything on the root tree, and the Patriots needed

943
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Speaker 3: that once they got rid of Diggs, and they got it.

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Speaker 1: Give us your idea about maybe some of the best

945
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: moves worst moves in free agencies so far? What has

946
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: caught your eye and are there any trends you're keeping

947
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: an eye on.

948
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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, the expansion of the price of centers with Tyler

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Speaker 3: Linderbaum makes it look like some of the other teams

951
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Speaker 3: that sign center's got really good bargains McGovern. I don't

952
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 3: think people realize how good McGovern was in ESPN's tracking

953
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Speaker 3: stats last year. He was like second or third in

954
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: the league in run block win rate and second type

955
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 3: second in past block win rate, And that's a really

956
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 3: good signing. And Cade Mays to the Lions also much

957
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: much cheaper than Linderbaumb not as good a player, but

958
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Speaker 3: for the amount that the Lions are paying for him,

959
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 3: that's a great bargain. I also really liked Pittsburgh trading

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00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: for Michael Pittman, and then didn't like Pittsburgh giving Michael

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00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: Pittman an extension. I think he's exactly the kind of

962
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 3: wide receiver too who will work really well with DK Metcalf,

963
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 3: and he's still a really good receiver. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if he's gonna still be a really good receiver in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven and twenty twenty eight, So I don't

966
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Speaker 3: know about the amount of money that they're giving him

967
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Speaker 3: in future years, but for this year, that trade was good.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned that trade, Aaron, which kind of leads

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00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: me to my next question, because Steve and I have

970
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: been of the opinion that with ten head coaching changes

971
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: tied for the most in league history. It's gonna bring

972
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Speaker 2: subsequent scheme changes, and that means you're gonna have players

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Speaker 2: that no longer fit the new scheme where they currently reside.

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Speaker 2: We were anticipating perhaps a more robust trade market. I

975
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Speaker 2: think we've seen a fair amount of trades, you know,

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00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: early in the free agency period. How how do you

977
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 2: see that progressing through the course of the offseason here

978
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 2: knowing that there are players out there that just don't

979
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: fit the scheme they're currently a part of on their

980
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Speaker 2: current team due to a coaching change.

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Speaker 3: I actually see it sort of from a flip side.

982
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: I see teams going out and trying to add players

983
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 3: that do fit their new schemes more than I'm thinking

984
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: about players trying to get teams trying to get rid

985
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: of players that don't. A good example there is Patrick

986
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: Ricards signing with the Giants because the Giants want to

987
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 3: bring in a raven style offense, and that means they

988
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: need a Raven style fullback. So they just got went

989
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: out and got the Ravens fullback, right Like I mean,

990
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: Player for player trades are always tough to do in

991
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: the NFL, you know, You've had a couple this year.

992
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: You had the green Bay Dallas trade. Uh uh sorry, Indianapolis,

993
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: green Bay trade with Wooton for the linebackers. Iire Franklin.

994
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: You uh Devandre Sweat and Jermaine Johnson. Sorry what Devandre

995
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: Sweat and Jermaine Johnson.

996
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: Yes, Devandre Sweat for Jermaine Johnson. Yes, with the Jets

997
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: and the Titans. But uh, I think once you see

998
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 3: the free agency, and you see a couple of weeks

999
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: and you see players move to teams that need them

1000
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 3: for their scheme changes, then you'll start to see teams

1001
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 3: maybe trading players who no longer fit their schemes.

1002
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: One of the things too, that we may be overlooking.

1003
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: And the perfect example of the Tennessee Titans. You got

1004
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: Robert Sala, former head coach of the New York Jets,

1005
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: Brian Dabele, former head coach of the you know, the Giants,

1006
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: and both of them coordinators for two franchise, the Bills

1007
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: for day Ball and the Niners. For Sala, it's not

1008
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: so much about getting you know, scheme changed all that,

1009
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: but they go back to those teams and get players

1010
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: they trust. And so many we see it so much

1011
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: and We saw it with Sean McDermott. Here in Buffalo.

1012
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: It was Carolina North here in Buffalo. They go back

1013
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: to teams they have worked for in the past and

1014
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: pluck players off of that. John Harbaugh is doing it

1015
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: in New York with a pricard that may be more

1016
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: of what fuels these player movements than position or fit

1017
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: or scheme.

1018
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 3: And it's always been that way, right think back to

1019
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: parcels guys. Parcels went to the Patriots, the parcels guys

1020
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 3: went to the Patriots, parcels went to the Jets. Those

1021
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: parcels guys all went to the Jets. Parcels went to

1022
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. So of those parcels guys then went to

1023
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 3: the you know, the ones that were still playing.

1024
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: At that point then went to the Cowboys.

1025
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Speaker 3: So it's always been that way that coaches have certain guys,

1026
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: and you're absolutely right. In Tennessee, Wandale Robinson is a

1027
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: really good example of that where day Bowl knew him

1028
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: from the Giants and now they're bringing him to Tennessee

1029
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 3: to be the slot receiver there. And they also brought

1030
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: it in an offensive lineman named Austin Schlottman who used

1031
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: to be a Giants guy. Defensively, they've picked up more

1032
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 3: just some guys. Jermaine Johnson is someone that Sala drafted

1033
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: when he was the head coach in New York. But

1034
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 3: most of the other players they brought in are just players.

1035
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: Although I think Franklin Myers was with the Jets. Yes,

1036
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: he was with Sala and then he went to Denver

1037
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 3: and now he's with Tennessee. But yeah, you absolutely always

1038
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: see coaches bringing guys who they are familiar with because one,

1039
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 3: they are familiar with them, and two, those guys can

1040
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: almost act as assistant coaches because they know not just

1041
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 3: the scheme, but they know the coaches sort of personal

1042
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: preferences and what he wants out of his players and

1043
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 3: what's the most important things to him, and they can

1044
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: sort of spread that word in the locker room.

1045
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: Speed off the edge, Aaron is some thing that the

1046
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: Bills need desperately, especially going to moving to a three

1047
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 2: to four defense under new coordinator Jim Leonard. How would

1048
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: you handicap the edge rusher market right now? You know,

1049
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: based on what we've seen come off the board to

1050
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: this point, you know, most recently with Hendrix and who's

1051
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: probably a better four to three end anyway, you know,

1052
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: going to Baltimore.

1053
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Speaker 3: It is interesting. The first thing I'll say is, as

1054
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 3: somebody who has been doing a lot of work in

1055
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 3: the last year or two on old football, it's interesting

1056
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: how interchangeable the three four outside linebackers and the four

1057
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: to three ends have become to where we just call

1058
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: them all edges now and guy's just.

1059
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: Go back and forth.

1060
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 3: It used to be that these were much more individualized positions,

1061
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 3: and sometimes players would go from three to four outside

1062
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 3: linebacker to four to three outside linebacker, not to end.

1063
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Speaker 3: Now we see pass rushers as pass rushers. Unfortunately, I

1064
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Speaker 3: think Hendrickson signing is a big domino. It's interesting because

1065
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Speaker 3: Mina Kimes made this point on social media, which I

1066
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Speaker 3: think is true. He's not the same kind of player

1067
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Speaker 3: as Max Crosby. Hendrickson at this point is older, and

1068
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 3: he's much more of a designated pass rusher, whereas Crosby

1069
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: is much more of an all around player who can

1070
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Speaker 3: also play the run. I don't have on the tip

1071
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: of my tongue who's the best remaining edge rusher. Obviously,

1072
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 3: you've seen a lot of top guys go it. Frankly,

1073
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 3: it might still be Bosa at this point in the

1074
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: sort of ring hunting one year contract veteran category because

1075
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Speaker 3: Khalil Mack went back to the Chargers. So the best

1076
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Speaker 3: bet for the Bills might be to get Bosa to

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Speaker 3: bring hunt for one more year with them. But also

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they're looking at the draft and they're looking

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Speaker 3: at the edge rusher class in the draft and seeing

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Speaker 3: who might follow them. You don't want it to. I mean,

1081
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Speaker 3: that's the thing about free agency being before the draft.

1082
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Speaker 3: You don't want to depend on the draft to get anything.

1083
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Speaker 3: The only teams that can depend on the draft to

1084
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Speaker 3: get anything specific are the Raiders and the Jets because

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Speaker 3: the Jets know what the Raiders are going to do.

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Speaker 3: Everybody else has no idea what's coming to them.

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Speaker 1: So when these you know, we've been talking about the turnover,

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Speaker 1: the churn. It was a big year for head coaches

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Speaker 1: and regime changes around the National Football League. Who had

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Speaker 1: the who has the biggest job coming up in this

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Speaker 1: as we stand here today in the second week of March.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think it's really the biggest job

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Speaker 3: as much as their different jobs. I think that the

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Speaker 3: Giants and Tennessee are teams that could take the leap

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Speaker 3: right like the Patriots last year. They have quarterbacks who

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Speaker 3: are good and young, and those are teams where if

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Speaker 3: you get the right free agents and your quarterback takes

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Speaker 3: the leap, you can take the leap. On the other hand,

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Speaker 3: a team like the Jets, you know they're really running

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Speaker 3: in place for a year. I don't know why they

1101
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Speaker 3: signed so many defensive players in their thirties, but the

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Speaker 3: idea of the Jets that build a team. So when

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Speaker 3: you have a better quarterback draft in twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 3: then you go out and you get a quarterback. And

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Speaker 3: that's a very different coaching job than the coaching job

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Speaker 3: that Harbaugh has to do with The Giants are solid

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Speaker 3: with the Titans so and I'd say it's it's less

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Speaker 3: about who's in the biggest crosshairs and more about who

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Speaker 3: understands where their team is in the development cycle.

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Speaker 2: With that in mind, Aaron, last one, for me, we

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01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: knew the Titans and Raiders had bowtloads of cap space

1112
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Speaker 2: to utilize, and they did. We also saw the Saints

1113
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: be extremely active and they've been a team that's been

1114
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: kicking the cap can down the road for years now.

1115
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 2: How surprised were you by their approach, you know, signing

1116
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: some big name players and you know, some some high

1117
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: priced players here at the outset of free agency.

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Speaker 3: I believe, if I'm correct, that this was the year

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01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 3: they got out of cap jail. Yes, but they had

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Speaker 3: some money to spend, so they went out and spent it,

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Speaker 3: and that makes some sense. It's not you know, the

1122
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 3: trick is for them to not run into the same

1123
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Speaker 3: problem they ran into in the past. I mean, obviously

1124
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Speaker 3: they still have. It's not the best roster in the world,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of it's sort of what do you

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 3: think of Tyler Shuck? And I mean personally I prefer

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01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart and cam Ward. For everybody, I think prefers

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Speaker 3: cam Ward, but I prefer Jackson Dart to Tyler Shuck

1129
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Speaker 3: as far as what I think they can develop into

1130
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: in the future. But the Saints had the ability to

1131
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 3: spend some money, and so they went out and they

1132
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 3: spent some money. Kayden Ellis is a great interesting guy

1133
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 3: because you know, he's off ball linebacker, but he's so

1134
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 3: good at blitzing and you can do some really interesting

1135
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 3: things with him. And I mean the same He's made

1136
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 3: some interesting moves. David Edwards also, obviously y'all know a

1137
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: good offensive lineman, so so they made some good moves,

1138
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 3: but I don't think they're really They don't look like

1139
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 3: a real playoff contender, although I guess in the NFC

1140
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 3: South everybody's a playoff.

1141
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, games, and you're in it.

1142
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: Yes, Aaron, thank you so much. Appreciate you spending some

1143
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: time with us.

1144
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 3: All right, thanks a lot of guys.

1145
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: All right. That's ESPN NFL analyst Aaron Shots and you

1146
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: can catch his work over at ESPN dot com on

1147
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: the NFL page. He's slicing things eighteen different ways and

1148
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: is an analytics type guy. So if you like getting

1149
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: deep in the weeds on some of those metrics, he's

1150
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: your guy to do that. You know, pretty much the

1151
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: inventor of DVOA and all that stuff, So if you

1152
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 2: like getting that deep into it, he's your guy for sure.

1153
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: I was just I didn't get a chance to ask

1154
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: him this because we were out of time. But I'm

1155
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: wondering I wanted to test our safety theory with him,

1156
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: you know, just depressed market safety position.

1157
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: It's a market full of players who are proven in

1158
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: the league, at least to a certain extent. They are

1159
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: who they are, but there's a lot of them. But

1160
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them, and then there's a bunch

1161
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: of good ones coming out in the draft, particularly in

1162
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: a combine, in a scouting cycle where you've got a

1163
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: ton of them who showed up big at the Combine.

1164
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know if if this is a thing

1165
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: or not. I kind of doubt that it is, but

1166
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: easy to sell picking a safety higher in the draft

1167
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: these days when fans are like all about wide receivers,

1168
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: edge rushers, corners, quarterbacks. Safeties don't really move the needle,

1169
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: but now maybe they do because they know who these

1170
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: guys are.

1171
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Speaker 2: Well. I think one way a safety can move the

1172
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: needle is based on their versatility, because we talked about

1173
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: this when we were at the Combine a couple of

1174
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: weeks ago, with you know, some people with their ears

1175
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: to the ground. As to the trends in the league,

1176
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 2: and more and more we're seeing teams maybe push aside

1177
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: the diminutive, quick as a cat nickel corner in favor

1178
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: of a two hundred plus pounds safety who can play

1179
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: in the slot and cover but also bear up against

1180
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: the run when he's got a guard coming at him.

1181
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: And that could stimulate the safety market and drive prices

1182
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 2: up if you can find them. That's the difference. Though

1183
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: there's demand for that kind of a safety, the supply

1184
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: isn't as good.

1185
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: Right, that supply is not there a guy who can

1186
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: cover mand a Man against a wide receiver. It doesn't

1187
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: even have to be a wide receiver one, right, I mean,

1188
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: because you should have a corner doing that. But if

1189
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: you can line up and cover Manda Man on a

1190
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: wide receiver two even let alone a tight end running back.

1191
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: If you can do that and then also step up

1192
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: into the box and take on a run game and

1193
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: be rush the passer every once in a while. If

1194
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: he does all of that, pay the man, Yeah, but

1195
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: show him to me first, right.

1196
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 2: Or draft him early if you think there's one in

1197
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: the draft, right, and there's a belief that there's a

1198
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: couple that might be able to fill the bill. There

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Speaker 2: One more comment here from the tweets sheet before we

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Speaker 2: get to break this one from Patrick As we've asked

1201
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: what's the next move you need to see from the

1202
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: Bills in free agency, and he says trade for Crosby.

1203
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 2: He's worth the picks we're gonna draft defense Anyways, who

1204
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: knows if our pick will even be good. This guy's

1205
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: proven he is. But the knee is clearly a concern

1206
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: was a concern for the Ravens to the point where

1207
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 2: they were renegged on the trade. As Steve told you earlier,

1208
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 2: the Cowboys didn't like, what do his knee look like?

1209
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: They reportedly have backed away. This is interesting too, because

1210
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: this is a it's unprecedent because the guy moved. I mean,

1211
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: we never used to see that. You know, this is

1212
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's not Miles Garrett, but it's you know,

1213
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: close to it, right. I mean, this is a guy, right,

1214
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: one of those name guys. He's a game wrecker, and

1215
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: you've got this team that says, uh, you know what,

1216
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: No two ones were not doing it and we're not

1217
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: paying him to. That's that's like double the price you

1218
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: have to pay the draft picks to get and then

1219
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: you got to give him the money once you get him.

1220
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: That is a big that is a big shopping spree.

1221
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: And that's what general managers like Brandon Bean is going

1222
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: to take his share today and tomorrow when when Crosby

1223
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: lands with whoever it's going to be, and when he

1224
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: lands with the Chiefs right, or if he lands with Cincinnati,

1225
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: or if he lands with wherever it is that the Chargers,

1226
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: wherever Max Crosby lands, every other GM is going to

1227
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: take slings in there. But they're not willing to do

1228
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: what Baltimore was not willing to do if it was

1229
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 1: indeed the knee. Okay, that's one thing, but if they

1230
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: don't want to give up two ones for him and

1231
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: fifty six million bucks, nobody wants to do that, let

1232
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: alone our guy. So they're gonna take, you know, and

1233
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: then when every time Max Crosby tips a pass, it's

1234
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: gonna be like we should have had and we should

1235
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 1: have had and it's it's the world you live in

1236
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: as a GM. But there are prices that are just

1237
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: too high. If Max, if you can get Max Crosby, great,

1238
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to overpay to do it. And

1239
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: that's what you just got crushed for overpaying for with

1240
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 1: the criticism is you over paid for DJ Moore because

1241
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: nobody knows who he is.

1242
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, And I'll be the first to say that

1243
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 2: every case is different, but past performance can sometimes influence

1244
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: gms as well. And let's not forget what von Miller

1245
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 2: looked like after his ACL knee injury, he wasn't the

1246
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: same guy. Now, granted that was a thirty five year

1247
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: old player. You're talking about a twenty eight, twenty nine

1248
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: years this layer. But it's a major knee injury.

1249
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: This is a moniscus, not an ACL. But yeah, and

1250
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: you've got two teams that backed off. That's big. That's

1251
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: why I said earlier in the show, Max Crosby might

1252
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 1: be looking himself in the mirror saying, you know what,

1253
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: I might be better off here.

1254
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta take a break here, more of your thoughts

1255
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet. What's your next move that you

1256
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: need to see from the Bills in free agency? You

1257
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 2: let us know on that tweet sheet. At One Bill's Live.

1258
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 2: We'll get to more of your comments next. Stay with

1259
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 2: us all right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

1260
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, asking you what will be the

1261
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 2: next move you need to see from the Bills in

1262
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: free agency, and you can hit us up with your comments.

1263
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: Add One Bills Live on Twitter or x whatever you

1264
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: call that app these days. And you know, to this point,

1265
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: I think people are of the opinion that defense is

1266
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 2: going to be a focus here early on in free agency,

1267
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 2: Jason says, what's going on with Bosa? And are we

1268
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: going to re sign Jordan Phillips go Bills? And here's

1269
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 2: here's the question. Where is Bosa lining up? I think

1270
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: if he's back on this roster, he's a defensive end.

1271
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: You know, he's six' five two sixty five two seventy

1272
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: can't play outside linebacker at that size and, weight and

1273
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: you've got to be fast out, there good change of.

1274
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: Direction he's he's not. That he's more of a power

1275
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 2: rusher type and would be more of a, fit you,

1276
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: know a defensive end playing five technique or something like.

1277
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: That and is that something that they deem a.

1278
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: FIT i don't know if there's a couple of things

1279
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: that work. Here From bosa's side of, it he may

1280
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: not want to move down three feet or five feet

1281
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: and play on a defensive end in a three, four

1282
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: and he may not feel like he wants. It he

1283
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: probably knows good and well what it entails and the

1284
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: kind of change it would. Take he's built for. It

1285
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to have the speed off the. Edge

1286
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: it may be an asset when he needs it if

1287
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: he's you, know to use. It it may be a

1288
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: nice transition for him later in his career to move

1289
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: inside four or five feet and put his keep his

1290
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 1: hand on the ground and have a guy standing up

1291
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: outside of him may open up some stuff for. Him

1292
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: he may get a chance to work more With Mike

1293
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: hoyt when he gets back as a as a stand

1294
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: up guy right next to. Him But joey And Joey

1295
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: bosa is at the point of his. CAREER i think

1296
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: he'll be going into his eleventh year correct or.

1297
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: Eleventh.

1298
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: Year he may, Say i'll do, it but you're either

1299
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay me or B i'm not gonna

1300
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: do it for that kind of. MONEY i don't know

1301
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: IF i want to do that late in my. Career

1302
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: he may be sitting there waiting on somebody to call

1303
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: him and, Say, hey what's your? Number what are you thinking?

1304
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: About and he'll tell them and they'll, Say, okay if

1305
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: it gets to that, point we may call, you but

1306
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: we're not going to sign you for that right. Now

1307
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: he had a nice season For buffalo last, year AND

1308
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: i think for a lot of, people an unexpectedly good

1309
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: season For buffalo last, year given the fact that the

1310
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 1: two guys that were supposed to help him in the

1311
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: pass rush weren't there ever at. All At oliver And

1312
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 1: Mike hoyt were gone for the whole seat was. Him

1313
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: so that you, know maybe he wants to come back

1314
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: and get another shot at that with those guys in the,

1315
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: Lineup but that's where you're at With Joey. Bosa he

1316
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: would switch, positions and that's a nuance of a. Switch

1317
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: but at this point in his, career maybe that's an

1318
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: offer he's willing to, take or maybe he's, like you know, What,

1319
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: No i'm not gonna do. IT i think it's up

1320
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: To joey more than. Anything i'm sure people have picked

1321
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: up the phone and, said, hey you put together a

1322
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: nice season there In, buffalo would you rather would you

1323
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: come in on a veteran minimum deal with a bunch of,

1324
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: Incentives and he's probably sitting there Going i'm gonna, wait.

1325
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah I'M i don't know how that's going to turn.

1326
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 2: OUT i don't know if like they brought him in

1327
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 2: to be a pass rusher here in their old defensive,

1328
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 2: SYSTEM i don't know if THEY'VE i, mean you could

1329
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: still make plays on the quarterback obviously in a defensive end,

1330
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: position IN a three four he wasn't, good but not

1331
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: in the same but not in the same.

1332
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: Way he wasn't great in the run.

1333
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: Game you're, right setting the edge was an issue at.

1334
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: Times he would often cheat and get caught and runs

1335
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 2: would you, know backs would get out the gate and

1336
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: have big runs because he wasn't setting.

1337
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: The one of your Remembers New england game where they

1338
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 1: snapped off the sixty five yard gun and scored late

1339
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: after The Bills patrick into. It but but, yeah So

1340
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: boza's out, there he's. Available he probably does want to,

1341
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: PLAY i would, think having spoken to him briefly at

1342
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: events just and kind of hearing him and conversations and. Stuff,

1343
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: YEAH i think the guy still wants to, play AND

1344
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: i think he. Can BUT i think at this point

1345
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys THAT i would surmise to

1346
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: be Like i'm GONNA i, Will i'll, play but it's

1347
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 1: got To i'm gonna wait and get the best, offer

1348
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 1: like The Leonard floyd kind of. Deal i'm gonna go

1349
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: where the money. Is i'm gonna play as well AS

1350
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: i can.

1351
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 2: Play let's go back to the tweet sheet for some

1352
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: other thoughts, here And ted asks we need or says

1353
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 2: we need. Linebackers, yeah you could argue. THAT i think

1354
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 2: we're all very curious as to where they line. Up

1355
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 2: Dorian williams IS i think most And i'm in this.

1356
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: Company i'm Expecting Torell bernard to be the weekend side.

1357
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: Linebacker it's a position he played in college At baylor

1358
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 2: in a three to four. System he knows it. WELL

1359
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: i think he's a natural fit, there So i'm anticipating

1360
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 2: that's where he ends. Up where Does Dorian williams end?

1361
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 2: UP i think that's a big question. Here he's six to,

1362
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 2: two two hundred and thirty. Pounds he's a downhill. Player

1363
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: that Says mike linebacker to? Me is that where he lines?

1364
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: Up we'll have to wait and. SEE i think he

1365
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: could do, it but that means he's also running the defense.

1366
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: Too that's an unknown something he's never done before at this.

1367
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 2: Level SO i think there are questions that have to be.

1368
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: Answered AND i don't know that last year's film gives

1369
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 2: you the answers you're looking, for if that makes sense.

1370
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: Right because of the scheme, change, yeah and the role,

1371
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: change they, will like most coaching staffs. DO i would

1372
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 2: imagine AND i don't know.

1373
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: This i'm surmising they're gonna try these guys out at different,

1374
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: spots AND i would, say, yes While bernard is a

1375
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: perfect fit a week out week inside, linebacker they'll probably

1376
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: flip flop him and try and let him take some

1377
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: snaps it's. Strong they'll just get to get these guys,

1378
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 1: acclimated just to see where they, fit see what they've,

1379
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: got and because if somebody gets, hurt you may end

1380
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: up over. There they're gonna find out what these guys

1381
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: really can and cannot. Do, now, CERTAINLY i Think i'm with.

1382
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: You it screams that that's a perfect spot for, him

1383
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: lining up inside, linebacker away from the tight, end from

1384
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: the strength of the. Formation it's. Perfect but they're Gonna

1385
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: Dorian williams is a perfect. EXAMPLE i don't where they're

1386
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: gonna plug him.

1387
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 2: In BECAUSE i, mean we've seen him deployed as a

1388
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,600
Speaker 2: blitzer at, times and it's not like you can't do

1389
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 2: that from the mike linebacker, position and he's been very

1390
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 2: good in that. Role if you remember last, year after

1391
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 2: they Lost hoyt And oliver out of the, lineup very

1392
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: often he was deployed as a blitzer and a pretty good

1393
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 2: one in their, three, three five. Package so it's all

1394
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 2: different now and the deck's been. Shuffled And i'll say

1395
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 2: this about, linebacker what DO i think they do in free?

1396
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: AGENCY i think they re sign a guy Like Shack

1397
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 2: thompson for veteran depth at the linebacker, position and, then

1398
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 2: in a year where it's considered to be very good

1399
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 2: at the linebacker, position in the, DRAFT i think that's

1400
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 2: where they get, one if not two linebackers for their,

1401
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 2: defense probably one early and one very.

1402
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 1: Late who they pick in the first round is really

1403
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: interesting because certainly the money spots are going to be

1404
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: depleted from edge, rushers wide outs and the. Like so

1405
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: but inside linebackers, maybe and there's a. Couple there's maybe

1406
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: less than a handful of safeties that are going to

1407
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: be plucked out of that first round as, well just

1408
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: because of the way they ran at the. Combine so

1409
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 1: maybe an inside linebackers who you take at twenty. Six to,

1410
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: me it's really interesting because you may get a really

1411
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: high quality guy at that spot because it's not a money, spot.

1412
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 1: Right you may get a guy that can you can

1413
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: plug in and play and he'll be there for, more you,

1414
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: know the better part of a.

1415
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 2: Decade we've been talking about safeties for much of the,

1416
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,839
Speaker 2: day and there is free agency news on that. Front

1417
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: three Time Pro bowl Safety kevin bayerd who played last

1418
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 2: year for The, bears signing a one, year nine million

1419
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 2: dollar contract with The New England. Patriots patriots have had

1420
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 2: some turnover on their defensive side of the ball thus

1421
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: far in free, agency so they refortified it by us

1422
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: Signing kevin bayer who has been a has had a

1423
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: very good. CAREER i think he's a nine or a

1424
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: ten year. Veteran he's not.

1425
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: Young he was he was with The bears last. Year,

1426
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: yes so, Yeah.

1427
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: So that's another safety off the. Market SO i don't

1428
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: know that The bills are in the in the position

1429
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 2: to sign safeties to nine million dollar contracts on an annual.

1430
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: Basis in terms of annual, VALUE i think they need

1431
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 2: the market to come down a little bit further from

1432
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: that before they go signing a, safety maybe closer to

1433
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: half of, that because they can't be throwing money, around you,

1434
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 2: know left and. Right they just got cap compliant and

1435
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 2: they've got some holes to. Fill but you, know The,

1436
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 2: Patriots Jalen, hawkins he did not re sign he's a free,

1437
01:20:54,800 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 2: agent so they fill a. Hole They, yeah that's a

1438
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: darn good. Play, yeah he's a good.

1439
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: Player and, yeah The, patriots who came into this free

1440
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: agencycle with a ton of cap space finally putting into good.

1441
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 2: Use so that's the latest on the safety. Market. There

1442
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 2: let's get back to the tweets sheet where pat SAYS

1443
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 2: i believe at least one experienced safety is. Needed oh

1444
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: and on a different, note how About Max. CROSBY i

1445
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 2: just think the asking price For crosby is going to

1446
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: be too steep and the risk is too great coming

1447
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 2: off the knee. Injury but stranger things have. Happened i'll

1448
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 2: never say.

1449
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 1: Never, yeah you never say, never because, certainly while The

1450
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: bills are there's no WAY i don't think no, Way

1451
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: i'm gonna say no way that they're gonna give up

1452
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: two ones For Max. Crosby you might give up one

1453
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: one and a, player, yeah or one to one and

1454
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: a two or whatever and a. Player you, know the

1455
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 1: combination is, there but it depends on whether you've got

1456
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: somebody on your roster that has a contract you like

1457
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 1: and The bills are willing to part for part with,

1458
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: it you, know you, Know it's easy Because bill's fans

1459
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 1: will sit there and, say, well we'll trade, them you,

1460
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: know like keyon and of number one and something, else

1461
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: something else, something and they'll throw whatever player they like

1462
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 1: or that they think is expendable in the. Deal there's

1463
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: nothing that says The raiders like any of. That so,

1464
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: yeah that and Once crosby is back on the, market

1465
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: you're competing with now what twenty seven other teams you

1466
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: know not you, know the The ravens are, Out cowboys are.

1467
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: Out raiders aren't on the. List so, yeah it's everybody,

1468
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 1: else twenty, nine twenty eight teams you're gonna be in competition,

1469
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: with and everybody's picking up the.

1470
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 2: Phone that's, Right and that's why it's easier saying now

1471
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 2: it's too you can they can.

1472
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: Play the thing is damage goods they.

1473
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 2: COULD i don't think The raiders asking price is going

1474
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 2: to come down much over the next, week but if

1475
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 2: there's zero, movement maybe it changes after. That patience, could you,

1476
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 2: know truly be a.

1477
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: Virtue so IT'S i would really love to be a

1478
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: fly on the wall because it's reported That Max crosby's

1479
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: right back at The raiders' facility rehabbing because he's on

1480
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: their team. AGAIN i, mean that's, Right he's so he's

1481
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: still A. Raider so he's back there and sitting there

1482
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: with their new head coach And crosby and the medical,

1483
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: people his trainers and his rehab. Guys they're, SAYING i

1484
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 1: don't know what they're talking. About it's going gray is

1485
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 1: exactly what we thought it? Was or are they, saying you,

1486
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: know what are those conversations? Like Now Max crosby's been

1487
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: turned had two teams turn their nose up at him

1488
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: because of his. Knee how does that change the conversation In?

1489
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: Vegas that's really interesting to. Me what Does max think

1490
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: about the fact that a team turned that trade down

1491
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: and now that and it's also been reported we've been

1492
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: talking about The cowboys also shying away from further pursuing

1493
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: him because their doctor consulted with The ravens doctors to

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01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: come up with a failed. PHYSICAL i think that's a

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01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: fascinating conversation to heaves drop, on because If i'm think about,

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01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 1: it if you've been AND i don't want, to what

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01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: do you call? It failed? Physically failed on a fit

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01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: on that on an? Examination how do you feel about

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01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: yourself and your. Future then does it change the way

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01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 1: you feel About? VEGAS i think it has, to doesn't.

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01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 2: IT i don't.

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01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: Know vegas shut him down and he was when he.

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01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 2: Was you saw The Alex guerrero. News Because brady's got

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01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 2: him working as a team guy with.

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01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 1: The raiders or The.

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01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 2: Intrigue he's rubbing people the wrong way And crosby was

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01:24:59,200 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 2: one of.

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01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: Them so, yeah that doesn't.

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01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: Change could be the fly in the ointment.

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01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:07,919
Speaker 1: There that could be, That that could be the. Curveball

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01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,480
Speaker 1: we don't know about. That the building is still, toxic.

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01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 2: Yeah AND i wouldn't be surprised if that's part of

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01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 2: the issue. There and maybe they're working to change a

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01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: lot of, that and you, know credit to them for trying.

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01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 2: To but the ship may have sailed as far As

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01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,759
Speaker 2: crosby's willingness to stay there is. Concerned gotta take a break.

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01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 2: Here one segment to. Go we'll get some final thoughts

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01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 2: from you on the tweet, sheet including an interesting receiver

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01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 2: ad from one of our. Tweeters we'll get to that

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01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 2: when we return here On One Bills, live presented By Colida.

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01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 2: Hell All, Right one segment to go here on A

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01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 2: wednesday edition And One bill's live and taking some of

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01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 2: your tweets in terms of what you believe The bills

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01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 2: need to do next in free, agency and that's Where andrew,

1525
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 2: says please find some way to bring In Juwan. Jennings San,

1526
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 2: francisco a wide, receiver saw his production receiving wise drop last,

1527
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: season went from like seventy seven catches in almost a

1528
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 2: thousand yards to about fifty and about six, fifty but

1529
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 2: his touchdown total went up nine touchdowns last year for

1530
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 2: the forty nine. Ers the going market rate for him

1531
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 2: is going to be somewhere between twenty two and twenty

1532
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 2: five million a. SEASON i don't think The bills can

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01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: find a way to fit that under their, cap to

1534
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: be quite. Honest but he's still out. There, yeah so.

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01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: Say what you. Will, yeah he's. Available is doesn't mean,

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01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 1: valuable but he could be.

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01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 2: Yep six three Two fifteen's.

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01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 1: That kind of body played in a good played in

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01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: that great offense In San. Francisco caught pass from different,

1540
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks Mac jones and the whole.

1541
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 2: Gang so as a career catch rate of sixty three

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01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 2: point six. Percent so.

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01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: To, me, h that's another kind of guy along those

1544
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: lines where you're trying to find a guy that has

1545
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 1: got a lot left and you don't.

1546
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 2: Have twenty eight years. Old, yeah you know he's gonna

1547
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 2: command a sizeable price tag out, there AND i just

1548
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 2: don't know if The bills cap wise can make that.

1549
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 2: Work that would be the biggest sticking. Point but we

1550
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 2: watched the forty nine ers Sign Mike evans in free,

1551
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 2: Agency so Could jennings be more available because he's less

1552
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 2: likely to return To San. FRANCISCO i think that is.

1553
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 2: True the question is at what kind of? Price next,

1554
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 2: UP aj says, defense all. Defense that's the reason The

1555
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: bills lose in the. PLAYOFFS i think there will be

1556
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 2: a defensive focus in free agency and the, Draft so fear, NOT.

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01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 2: AJ i think help is on the.

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01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 1: WAY i think they're gonna they're gonna draft, guys and

1559
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna signed guys in free. Agency but you, Know Trey,

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01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: hendrickson No Max, crosby No, grenard probably not.

1561
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 2: Either and he would have to be by, trade.

1562
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: RIGHT i just think they're gonna get guys that you.

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01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 1: Know there's there's a possibility to Get Bradley, chubb the

1564
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: guy From. Miami he's out. There you've seen him a

1565
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: couple of times a year's linked to The bills and

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01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: you know their, Reports so, yeah guys like that have a.

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01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: Chance you, ALSO i think they're gonna see you're gonna

1568
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: see him sign another. Safety they've already signed a corner

1569
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: in D. Alford you're probably gonna see him sign a

1570
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: safety or to linebacker as. Well you may get a

1571
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,799
Speaker 1: guy along the lines of you, know last year's. Signing

1572
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 1: So i'm yeah, shacked you, Know Shaq thompson again me

1573
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: or a guy along those lines or another one Including,

1574
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 1: shack so another one in addition To, shack they'll probably

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01:28:58,720 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: draft one.

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01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 2: Too Benny thomas Says bills need linebackers in a safety

1577
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 2: any of those not Signing Leo chanell hurts my. Head,

1578
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 2: YEAH i think a lot of people thought he would

1579
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 2: be a good fit for The bill's. System he goes.

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01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,759
Speaker 2: Elsewhere more free agency on the way for you. Tomorrow

1581
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: we'll see. It won