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Speaker 1: near the end of eight years of the Trump presidential

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Speaker 1: circus to wait, well, everything gets over? Is that what

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Speaker 1: you're saying? We're near the end. We're near the end

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Speaker 1: of No, we're coming to the end of eight years.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start fifteen. Yeah, twenty fifteen. He came down

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Speaker 1: But that's not the big story right now. As the

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Speaker 1: indictment in New York State former President Trump, and we

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Speaker 1: now know it's been unsealed for a grand jury, thirty

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Speaker 1: four felony counts dealing with falsification of business records. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: sound too exciting, doesn't. No, it's really a dull case.

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Speaker 1: I just read the indictment most of it, did you

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Speaker 1: see it. It's attached to the Wall Street Journal story

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Speaker 1: and it's not particularly excited. But it's divided into introduction,

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Speaker 1: then background of the case, and then finally the scheme,

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Speaker 1: the catch and kills scheme to suppress negative information. A

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Speaker 1: lot of it deals with that National Enquirer guy that

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Speaker 1: apparently was their middleman to suppress the stories, including one

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Speaker 1: I never knew before. A dormator Trump Tower had a

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Speaker 1: story the Trump father to a child out of wedlock.

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Speaker 1: Turned out to be not true, it says. And then

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Speaker 1: but they apparently we're going to they paid the doorman.

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Speaker 1: And then you, Matt, can you imagine how much has

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Speaker 1: gone on that we've never heard about that he did

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Speaker 1: pay off? Well, we have Royal Arc Royal Oaks on

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Speaker 1: from ABC News, our legal analyst, and I imagine he's

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Speaker 1: just gotten to see the indictment as well. Royal welcome.

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Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing great. Yeah, I've got it

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Speaker 1: on the screen as well. It runs about sixteen pages,

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Speaker 1: as you say, thirty four felony account and I think

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Speaker 1: you put your finger on the irony here is this

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Speaker 1: is a case that is salacious. It's about Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: having sex with a porn actress and then buying her silence.

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Speaker 1: But that's not what this case is about. It's a

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Speaker 1: book keeping case. I mean, it's a little bit like

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Speaker 1: al Capone getting caught for taxivasion instead of extortion and murder. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: What the district Attorney is saying is, look, Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: knew all along what was going on. What happened was

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Speaker 1: he told his guy who's fixed her, his lawyer, Michael Cohen,

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Speaker 1: a presidential campaign is what wrapping up. And we do

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Speaker 1: not want her blabbing any more than she's already blabbed.

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Speaker 1: So take care of it. So Cohen cuts a deal

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Speaker 1: with her one hundred and thirty grand. Does he write

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Speaker 1: the money himself, Cohen. That pays her himself. All right,

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Speaker 1: So she's taken care of. She's silent for the time being.

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Speaker 1: Now with the next several months, Trump and his organization

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Speaker 1: but they're kind of labeled as legal fees. They certainly

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Speaker 1: are not labeled Donald Trump Briham versus Michael Collin for

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Speaker 1: And so that's what the DA is pointing to. There's

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Speaker 1: a statute in New York that says you can't falsify

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Speaker 1: your business records, and you really can't do it if

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Speaker 1: your real intent is to break the campaign rules. And

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Speaker 1: he allegedly broke the campaign rules when he didn't tell

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Speaker 1: to pay off Storm. Instead he labeled his legal fees. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it almost brings you back guys to Nixon.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's the cover up that's worse than the

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Speaker 1: third rate burglary. Here's the same thing. According to the DA,

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Speaker 1: digesting a lot of things. I'm unfamiliar with the falsifying

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Speaker 1: How does this become thirty four felonies? Though it kind

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Speaker 1: there was a check written to Michael Lacohen, Well, there

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Speaker 1: and will not normalize serious criminal conducts. The defendant repeatedly

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Speaker 1: look at that and say, okay, you got a place

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Speaker 1: to put people. It'll be a nicer place if you

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Speaker 1: care about that sort of thing. But they didn't do

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Speaker 1: that though. All they said is, well, this place is

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Speaker 1: closing down and we're letting the prisoners go free. What

431
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Speaker 1: does that tell you? They don't care about anybody's mental health,

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Speaker 1: or they'd have the mental health building built. They don't

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Speaker 1: care about anything other than releasing prisoners and then destroying

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Speaker 1: our civilized society. When you start looking at at the

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Speaker 1: likes of Sales and Horrvath as the true anarchists, the

436
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Speaker 1: real danger beyond the Antifa crowd, then you're going to

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00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: start understand, and then you got to start voting that way.

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Speaker 1: When you realize that danger, you know, you know what

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00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: we're up against exactly right well about people because it

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00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: sounds so extreme and so preposterous, it can't be real.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling somebody about that this morning. The problem is,

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Speaker 1: I don't think people believe that it's this bad. I

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Speaker 1: don't think people believe that Sealise and Horrvath and the

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Speaker 1: rest of them really have these views to undermine our

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Speaker 1: civilized society. They do. That is their goal because they're

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Speaker 1: smart enough to know that you have to build the

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Speaker 1: mental lockdown facility first and the new jail first, and

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00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: then you close the old one. That's what any normal

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00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: society would do. They know, they don't have any plans

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Speaker 1: to build any of this because they're never going to

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00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: build anything to replace them. They're simply going to close

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Speaker 1: the jail and let it everybody out. That's what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do. So what do you think that is? That's

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Speaker 1: not anarchy. So one thing I definitely want to ask

455
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Speaker 1: the former sheriff vin a wave after two o'clock key

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Speaker 1: in this plan, this proposal that they did pull back on.

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Speaker 1: So Lease and Horvath want the La County sheriff to

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Speaker 1: reduce the jail population by deciding which inmates to let

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Speaker 1: go based on a bail number. I can only imagine

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00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: they thought this would be easier now that they have

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Speaker 1: their sheriff in the back pocket. Yeah, and that, of

462
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: course is Luna, who replaced VI in a wave in

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Speaker 1: last year's election. So all this is on the way

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Speaker 1: after two o'clock story. I keep seeing when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the Trump indictment, because everyone loves precedent. What happened before, Well,

466
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Speaker 1: there was something like this in twenty eleven. His name

467
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: was John Edwards. He was a US senator and a

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Speaker 1: presidential candidate. But it all came apart when he faced

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Speaker 1: six felt any charge relating to campaign financial law violations

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Speaker 1: for accepting a million dollars from donors to obscure his

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Speaker 1: affair during his two thousand and eight presidential campaign. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this is when Obama was running. Obama clearly became the winner.

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Speaker 1: But Edwards was a hot name for a while. He

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Speaker 1: was like, they thought he was another Bill Clinton. He

475
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Speaker 1: was a Southerner, he was pretty smooth, he was good looking.

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Speaker 1: He was John Kerry's vice presidential candidate. Fits right and

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Speaker 1: four right right. In twenty twelve, a jury acquitted him

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Speaker 1: on one count of receiving illegal CONTRIBUTIONCE and they deadlocked

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Speaker 1: on all the other charges. The Justice Department then gave up,

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Speaker 1: walked away. One distinct difference here, That is the US

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Speaker 1: Justice Department that's the fits. This is the state of

482
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Speaker 1: New York and the Manhattan DA that are coming after Trump.

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Speaker 1: And not that that in a sense, because we just

484
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Speaker 1: talked about how the FEDS got the conviction of Margaret

485
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Speaker 1: Lee Thomas. Well, the Feds come after you, it's serious. Well,

486
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: the FEDS had looked at this case and decided not

487
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: to prosecute, and Alvin Bragg's predecessor looked at the case

488
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Speaker 1: and decided not to prosecute. Did you hear what Bragg

489
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Speaker 1: said at the news conference, but that I got new

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Speaker 1: evidence since I became DA, new evidence came forward to

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Speaker 1: us that we used. He didn't specify what that was,

492
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Speaker 1: but that was his I don't know the thirty four

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Speaker 1: they don't think much changed. Yeah, those business violations existed

494
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: seven years ago. I mean, they're they're the same business violations.

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Speaker 1: It just took them seven years to try to figure

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Speaker 1: out what law was broken. And that somebody's going to

497
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Speaker 1: have to explain how he's going to make felony stick,

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Speaker 1: that this was in service of a federal crime when

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Speaker 1: nobody's been convicted of federal crime. I don't understand that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one other legal expert in this story makes the point

501
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Speaker 1: I just did. In the Edwards case, they were actually

502
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Speaker 1: trying a federal case. Here, they're not trying a federal case.

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Speaker 1: If they go ahead to trial and find Trump guilty,

504
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: he's not going to be found guilty of federal campaign

505
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Speaker 1: finance violations. He's going to be found guilty of violating

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Speaker 1: New York state law and altering business records in order

507
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: to cover up other crimes, which are allegedly the campaign

508
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Speaker 1: finance crimes. So it's like a deeper berry. Here is

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00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: what the legal experts explaining. Unlike if the Feds came after,

510
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: this case would be more direct. But this New York

511
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: state method that this DA is trying is might confuse

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Speaker 1: the jury. That's how he put it. But the prosecutor

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00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: has this sort of a case within a case. He's

514
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: got to prove Trump committed the New York crime. But

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00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: to Trump proved Trump committed this New York crime, he's

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00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: gonna have to prove that he had been had he

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Speaker 1: been the US attorney, he would have brought the federal

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Speaker 1: crime in one on that. Hey, it's an interesting This

519
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: is something good for the defense to say, because again

520
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: the Feds passed on this, with Bragg only answering that, well,

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Speaker 1: I've got no evidence things came forward since I became DA.

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Speaker 1: I always get suspicious of a guy, and he said

523
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Speaker 1: this several times, Well, you know I've been doing this

524
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Speaker 1: for twenty four years. Any guy who opens with his resume,

525
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: how long he's been doing something because he's trying to

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00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: build a facade saying you can't question me. I've been

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00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: doing this a long time. I had prosecutor dundreds of

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Speaker 1: these cases whenever I worked for somebody, and the first

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00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: thing on the other side of the desk was, well, oh, John,

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this for over twenty years. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're an incompetent boob. That's my first thought, because people

532
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: who really are accomplished things and can explain their decisions

533
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: don't start with how long they've been doing it to

534
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: justify it. Doesn't matter how long you've been doing it.

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00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: You could have done it for ten days and be right,

536
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: or you could have done it for thirty years and

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00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: be wrong. But the time you spent on the job

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00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: has no bearing on the wisdom of your decision. All right, Oh,

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00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: I've forgotten. Remember what was her name, Bunny Melton. I

540
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: think that's the rich lady that gave the money on

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Speaker 1: behalf of John Edwards from the reel right failed famous

542
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: super wealthy family. Yeah, that's and that was the case

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00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: there that she gave the money on behalf of Edwards

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00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: directly to reel Hunter to buy her silence. All right,

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Speaker 1: We got more coming up. John and Ken kf I

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Speaker 1: AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app.

547
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Speaker 1: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf

548
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: I AM sixty. Coming up after two o'clock, we'll have

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Speaker 1: a little conversation with the former sheriff of La County,

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Speaker 1: Alex Vieneueva, who lost his election last November to the

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00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: candidate that was really supported by the La County Board

552
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Speaker 1: of Supervisors. That's Robert Luna, the Long Beach Police chief,

553
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Speaker 1: and we're going to talk to him about the proposal

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Speaker 1: that has been pulled back by a couple of La

555
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Speaker 1: County supervisors, and that is to empty the La County jails,

556
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Speaker 1: and we mean literally empty. They used the term to depopulate. Yes,

557
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: she had larcer rate. Yes, they had their Soviet Communist terms.

558
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: The popular cars, Ray, why don't you say the truth.

559
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: You're you're opening the gates to let thousands of felons

560
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: run amuck in the streets. Speaking of that, it's a

561
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: great headline in the wonderful tabloid The Daily Mail out

562
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: of the UK reveal terrifying rap sheets of the ten

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Speaker 1: worst New York City criminals who were repeatedly released by

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Speaker 1: the Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg as he focused on the

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Speaker 1: Trump indictment, I don't know necessarily true, like where the

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Speaker 1: headlines written to make you believe all other people in

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Speaker 1: his office were spending all of their time in the

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Speaker 1: Trump indictment that they let these violent people repeatedly walk. Well,

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Speaker 1: but we do know these stories. I've actually read some

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Speaker 1: of them before. In the New York Tablet. Well, the

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Speaker 1: Mayor of New York, Eric Adams, said that there were

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Speaker 1: ten guys made that made up nearly five hundred crimes,

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Speaker 1: committed five hundred crime, fifty crimes of person. It's sixty

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Speaker 1: percent of these people were still roaming the streets at

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Speaker 1: the time that he made the statement. Oh, he said

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Speaker 1: that last August. Yes, so these are these are real

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00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: guys with these are they're real rap sheets that the

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Speaker 1: tabloid does point out that the only category of crime

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Speaker 1: that's been up in recent times is felony assaults. Most

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00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: of the rest have tempered down a bit, including murders

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Speaker 1: and rape and robbery. But you know, you look at

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Speaker 1: this crowd and that's exactly I guess what the mayor

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00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: was talking about. Begins with a man named Harold Gooding

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Speaker 1: who's been arrested more than a hundred times, seventy of

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Speaker 1: them for theft alone. They've taken him into custody more

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Speaker 1: than a hundred times, so I guess that means he

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00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: never but if he spend an hour in jail and

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00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: they just release him. He's been busted for dozens of

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Speaker 1: larceny charges, including four four times he stole something from Target.

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Speaker 1: He's got fifteen convictions. Jeez, arrested a hundred times and

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Speaker 1: fifteen convictions. Fourteen times he failed the show in court.

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Speaker 1: You'll notice a trend here. A lot of these people

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Speaker 1: they're thieves and they were prosecuted. Is like this guy

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Speaker 1: in New York. And I think our old George Gascone

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00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 1: who look at thieves lightly because they think, well, they're

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00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: just trying to feed themselves. How could you they're drawn

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00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: to desperation. No, they're not. They're not so sicky here

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00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: in that it's a low level, non violent crime when

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00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: they just take stuff from a store. No, there's food banks.

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00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: Nobody has to go hungry anymore. There's so much charity

601
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: out there. Somebody churches, so many food banks. It's complete nonsense.

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00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: Nobody steals because they're hungry. They steal because they can,

603
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Speaker 1: They fence it, and then they spend the money on drugs.

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Speaker 1: They're not feeding themselves. They want to inject themselves. I

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Speaker 1: hate all the nicey nice euphemisms and all these stupid

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Speaker 1: little child like childish story. Oh is this trying to

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Speaker 1: feed himself? You know, if you're six years old, you

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Speaker 1: believe that. If you're forty six years old, you know

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of hooey. There's a woman named Michelle Kelly,

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Speaker 1: forty one years old, who calls herself a professional booster.

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Speaker 1: Y'all aren't going to stop my hustle, She told police

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00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: she has been arrested many, many times over same thing.

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Speaker 1: She's stealing from stores or all over New York City.

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Speaker 1: She was finally held on five thousand dollars bail after

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Speaker 1: one hundred and first arrest for second all second degree assault.

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Speaker 1: She kicked, bit, scratched and spit on two cops after

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Speaker 1: they nabbed her when she stole some items from a

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Speaker 1: drug store in Harlem. But the first hundred times she

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Speaker 1: got arrested was was mostly for petty larksin me and

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Speaker 1: that's there's no jail on that you just get sited

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Speaker 1: and released. It's which is what they want to do

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Speaker 1: in La County. That's why they're the soleise and U

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Speaker 1: or Vath, those two anarchists want to close the jails.

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Speaker 1: Everything will be a site and release. Right. There's another

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Speaker 1: guy here by the name of William Rowland with a

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Speaker 1: thirty year rap sheet, had his robbery charges recently dropped

627
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: to Petty Larsity under Bragg's administration. He stole two thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars worth. Oh see medication, John, he's hailing from a

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Speaker 1: drug store, or maybe it's just something you know. He

630
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: wants to steal the suit of fed so he could

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Speaker 1: turn it into meth. Jamal Pringle a great name, Jamal Pringle.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and sixty seven arrests on his record. Wow,

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Speaker 1: and again I remember New York State for a while

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Speaker 1: had the no bail thing going. Yeah, No, that was

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Speaker 1: the disastrous that's how you get this stuff. If there's

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Speaker 1: no bail, then there's no cost. You just don't even

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Speaker 1: show up in courts. They're not gonna come get you.

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