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Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Congress to the Rescue, What could go wrong?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the fastest hour in politics, as lawmakers prepared

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Speaker 1: now to vote on legislation to avert a nationwide rail strike,

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Speaker 1: Only here on Bloomberg Radio. Same sex marriage gets a

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Speaker 1: vote in the Senate today and Carrie Lake makes it

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Speaker 1: for the hour. So it's it's been a busy day

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Speaker 1: Republicans having a hard time on this vote? Look, I

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Speaker 1: mean all this was triggered by the Supreme Court decision

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Speaker 1: if if that had not occurred. This was not on

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Speaker 1: anybody's right oar screen until last summer when when the

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Speaker 1: Court overturned and made the Dobbs decision. So the reality

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Speaker 1: is it's kind of self inflicted if you if you

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Speaker 1: call the Supreme Court you know, sort of right leaning.

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Speaker 1: The reality too, is that most people really don't understand

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Speaker 1: how the game is played on this. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: almost all states recognize marriage same sex marriage licenses, but

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Speaker 1: only fifteen give them, so it doesn't change that. So

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Speaker 1: for people like you know, uh, John Tune who from

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Speaker 1: South Dakota, highly unlikely they'll ever change their statute in

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Speaker 1: South Dakota. It really doesn't force them to do anything.

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Speaker 1: They otherwise don't already do. And so I think it

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Speaker 1: is symbolic though, and I think that this is a

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Speaker 1: reaction and maybe not a uh too much of a

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Speaker 1: reaction to to the Dobbs decision, and and people who

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Speaker 1: feel threatened with what they thought were, as John Thune said,

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Speaker 1: settled issues. Right. Remember Barney Frank at one point the

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Speaker 1: come just s been from Massachusetts the first openly gay

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Speaker 1: member of Commerce, Genie. He said, if you have a

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Speaker 1: problem with gay marriage, then don't gay Mary, which I

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Speaker 1: thought was actually a pretty smart line. But the fact is,

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Speaker 1: lot of states in this country, and this legislation won't

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Speaker 1: change that. That's right. But you know, I have to

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Speaker 1: And it's a great, great quote. Um. You know the

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Speaker 1: reality though, you know, John Thune says it's a settled issue,

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Speaker 1: it's certainly not a settled issue. Um. And you know

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Speaker 1: there's a reason we're here. It's because justices on the

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Speaker 1: Republican side in the Supreme Court raised this issue, and

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Speaker 1: of course it raised the specter that this could be

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Speaker 1: overturned in Congress. So you know, the idea where in

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Speaker 1: a settled, settled territory is not the case. But I

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Speaker 1: will tell you there's a large group of women in

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Speaker 1: the country are saying, hey, what about us. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about this issue of same sex marriage, rightly, so what

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Speaker 1: about the issue of women's health care which isn't set

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Speaker 1: So you know, there's a group of of you know

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Speaker 1: people who are saying, there's you know, some question here

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Speaker 1: as to why women are getting equal treatment on this issue.

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Speaker 1: Are you talking contraception or we're talking reproductive rights? What

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Speaker 1: do you mean reproductive rights, contraception, all of the above.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a large group of women saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: what about us? This all started with the Dabb's decision,

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Speaker 1: and rightly so we're having it about same sex marriage,

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Speaker 1: but what about what about the issues of health care

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Speaker 1: for women? That's not come up and it's not going

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Speaker 1: any near in the near future. How come that is? Rick? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Do we need more female lawmakers? That as simple as that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, look, the politics is a much more complicated,

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Speaker 1: you know when it comes to reproductive rights. Uh and

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Speaker 1: and right now, probably the divisions that are in place

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Speaker 1: are going to exist for some time. You know. We've

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Speaker 1: just been through an election cycle where this issue played

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Speaker 1: out in incredible importance, and I think lawmakers are gonna

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Speaker 1: gonna have to let that it'll in and figure out

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna do about in the future. Whether I

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Speaker 1: doubt if they can put something together this quickly, but

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Speaker 1: this issue is not going away, No, it's not. And

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we'll be impressed if they can put

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Speaker 1: a budget together at this point. So just hang on

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Speaker 1: with that. Rick and Jenie are gonna hang on. They

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Speaker 1: come back. We've got a few other boxes to check here,

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Speaker 1: including Senator Thune's statement on Donald Trump's dinner with Nick

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Speaker 1: Fuentes at mar Lago. We're also going to turn to

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Speaker 1: what's happening in Arizona. Rick Davis will surely weigh in

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Speaker 1: on this. Carrie l says she's gonna sue she's lawyered

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Speaker 1: up in Wow, if you were in the room for

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Speaker 1: the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors listening to people complain

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Speaker 1: about the way the election was conducted, can't let your

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Speaker 1: kid listen to half of it. We'll have more next.

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Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: You sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. So,

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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell denounced the dinner at Mara a Lago, the

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Speaker 1: dinner with a white supremacist Nick Fuentist. This is the

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Speaker 1: Trump Kanye thing, Kevin McCarthy, as he heard earlier this hour.

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Speaker 1: He denounced it in the White House driveway today. You

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Speaker 1: can add Senator John Thune, who didn't waste any time

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Speaker 1: when I asked him about it earlier this hour. I actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you can say. You can't defend

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Speaker 1: it um and uh in our party. If if that's

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Speaker 1: the kind of um leadership that our party can expect

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Speaker 1: into the future, we're going to be a minority party

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Speaker 1: and uh. And so that's that kind of behavior, that

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Speaker 1: kind of um tolerance for those sorts of us. Is

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Speaker 1: this is not acceptable? A more convincing answer you might

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Speaker 1: suggest than meet the prescott from Representative James Comer on Sunday. Well,

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Speaker 1: he certainly needs better judgment and who he dines with.

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Speaker 1: I know that he's issued a statement and said he

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Speaker 1: didn't know who those people were. But at any rate,

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Speaker 1: you know, my focus is gonna be on investigating the

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Speaker 1: current administration forty or fifty investigations. Let's reassemble the panel.

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Speaker 1: Rick Davis, Jennie Janzano here, Bloomberg Politics contributors. Uh Rick

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Speaker 1: John Thune has never been a Trump guy, right, that

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming was not too difficult for him to come

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Speaker 1: together on. No, But I don't think this is very

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Speaker 1: difficult for anybody within the Party of these days. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was a whole raft of folks today

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Speaker 1: coming out even you know, his boss Mitch McConnell condemned

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Speaker 1: it pretty widely and and made the point that, uh,

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Speaker 1: he doubts if anybody can become president if they take

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Speaker 1: this kind of approach, So a direct shot at Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump and uh and and what I was really impressed

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Speaker 1: by is a number of the Jewish leaders who served

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Speaker 1: in the Trump administration, including his ambassador at Israel, UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, encouraged Donald Trump to throw the bums out.

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Speaker 1: So there's there's really no opening here in the Republican

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Speaker 1: Party for this kind of conduct. And Donald Trump's finding

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Speaker 1: himself completely isolated on this issue, and it's all of

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Speaker 1: his own doing. Kevin McCarthy had spoken earlier, Genie, I

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Speaker 1: asked you that because was on this program last evening

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Speaker 1: that that he was being called out for it, and

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Speaker 1: and it was just today, this is a full week

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Speaker 1: later that it happened. Yeah, I mean, I think he

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Speaker 1: should have spoken out earlier, but better late than never.

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Speaker 1: And I think it was very interesting that Senator Thune

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Speaker 1: said to you that he sees a robust primary and

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Speaker 1: the Republicans future. I think he may be right about that.

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Speaker 1: I think the big question in my mind is how

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Speaker 1: long do they let a robust primary go, because of

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Speaker 1: course the problem for Republicans, the more people in the race,

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Speaker 1: the more likely it is that Donald Trump could keep

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Speaker 1: his thirty and squeak his way through. So are they

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Speaker 1: going to coalesce behind somebody at some point and when

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Speaker 1: is that going to be? Or are they gonna have

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Speaker 1: another on their hands where he knocks people out one

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Speaker 1: at a time. So I was very interested to hear

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Speaker 1: him say he sees that. But how long he's gonna,

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Speaker 1: you know, they want that to continue is going to

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Speaker 1: be the question? Were you surprised that. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: frequently mentioned as a potential candidate himself, not only a

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Speaker 1: potential Senate leader, Rick, but his name comes up every

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Speaker 1: four years, is a potential Republican nominee or candidate for president.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't going near that when I asked him, and

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Speaker 1: I suppose you you wouldn't expect him to, But is

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Speaker 1: he actually do you think looking at it is his

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Speaker 1: future in the Senate. Everybody in the United States Senate

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Speaker 1: thinks they can be president United States. And uh, and

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, I I'm sure there are days

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Speaker 1: when he's you know, sitting around home and thinking, God,

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Speaker 1: I could do that, and and he could. He's very

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Speaker 1: talented guy, and as John McCain said, probably the best

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Speaker 1: looking senator in the United States Senate. So if looks

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Speaker 1: have anything to do with it, that man is in

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Speaker 1: the top ten and so so at the end of

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Speaker 1: the stage, Uh, it's probably not his place. He's had

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Speaker 1: his eye on Senate leadership for a long time. He's

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Speaker 1: made a lot of sacrifices. He was not even going

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Speaker 1: to run for re election, and you know, got talked into,

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to be a part of a new coalition.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, he's more disappointed than anybody. You know that

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Speaker 1: we were not going to have the votes to get

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Speaker 1: the majority in the United States Senate this year. So

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Speaker 1: I think he's a he's going to stay in the

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Speaker 1: Senate and he's gonna and he's gonna buy for leadership

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Speaker 1: at some point in time and uh maybe four. You know,

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Speaker 1: he sees some window of opportunity there. But I would

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Speaker 1: doubt if he's one of the folks who is going

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Speaker 1: to throw their heat in the ring. Carry Lake thinks

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Speaker 1: the window of opportunity is still open for her bid

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Speaker 1: to be the next governor of Arizona. And I have

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Speaker 1: to I have to bring you up to date on this.

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Speaker 1: We've heard a lot too. She went online and you know,

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Speaker 1: with the fuzzy background and all that stuff, to address

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Speaker 1: her supporters today because it's been a minute. If we

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Speaker 1: do not stand up and speak up right now about

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Speaker 1: the most dishonest elections in the history of Arizona, I

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Speaker 1: truly fear for our future. And I'm working with the

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Speaker 1: team a patriotic talented lawyers on a legal case to

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Speaker 1: challenge the botch elections. Okay, so now this all comes

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Speaker 1: after a difficult couple of weeks for the Amercopa County

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Speaker 1: Board of Supervisors. We talked to Bill Gates here a

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Speaker 1: few weeks back. He described the death threats that his

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Speaker 1: family has been receiving. I believe he had to relocate

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Speaker 1: his family. But still a couple of a couple of

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Speaker 1: days worth of hearings. It's the stream of people coming

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Speaker 1: in to scream about the way the election was handled

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Speaker 1: before the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. One of those supervisors,

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Speaker 1: Steve Gallardo, has had it and he opened up on

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Speaker 1: carry Lake today. You look at the Twitter feed of

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Speaker 1: carry Lake and the carry Lake war Room. They put

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Speaker 1: up twenty eight posts on Twitter of eight people speaking

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Speaker 1: it came down to answering every one of those questions,

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Speaker 1: not one tweet from carry Lake. Just the tweet we

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Speaker 1: saw today actually saying she's gonna fight this. When you

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Speaker 1: have folks that are throwing rocks at the system but

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Speaker 1: not wanting to tell the voters the truth, that's unconscionable.

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Speaker 1: Shame on her, Shame on her. The voters spoke, they decided.

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Speaker 1: It just happened to not be her or some of

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Speaker 1: the other candidates. It is what it is. The voters

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Speaker 1: had the opportunity to have their voices heard, ballots were counted,

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Speaker 1: and this election was safe, secure and accurate, and then

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Speaker 1: they had their voices heard again. Now, imagine again, We've

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Speaker 1: played some of the stuff for you's been going on

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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. People screaming into the microphone,

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Speaker 1: wearing crazy clothes, doing crazy stuff. You get you two

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Speaker 1: minutes and they say thank you next. When you don't,

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Speaker 1: you can say anything about thank you next. And the

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Speaker 1: last twenty four hours were wild. I came here today

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Speaker 1: to get an up close and personal look at the

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Speaker 1: seven Traders to the United States contints pleading at that desk.

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Speaker 1: Every single one of us use a pull center right

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Speaker 1: networker right now is making fun of you, every single

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Speaker 1: one of us. You are the butt of our jokes.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure they can represent evil good versus evil.

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Speaker 1: All you've God fearing men and women out here need

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Speaker 1: to understand that and get up every day and start

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Speaker 1: donning your body armor before you step on this battlefield.

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Speaker 1: Body armor. I don't know if that you guys don't

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Speaker 1: or you are purposely disenfranchising the whole world with this

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Speaker 1: gas lighting this stuff. Okay, the word of the year

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Speaker 1: from Miriam Webster gaslight. Uh the world, disenfranchising the world. Rick,

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Speaker 1: You've spent some time in Arizona politics, You've helped to

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Speaker 1: run elections in Arizona. Where's this going with Kerry Lake? Well,

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Speaker 1: all I can say is welcome to Arizona. Look, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, even Bill Gates, you know, chairman of the

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Speaker 1: Americo PA County Supervisor, says, you know, look, if you

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Speaker 1: want to sue, sue, you know, present your facts in

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Speaker 1: the court of law and Mericopa County will do whatever

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Speaker 1: you want the court the court instructs it to do.

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Speaker 1: But he's got facts on his side, so he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to sort of demagogue it and and and say

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Speaker 1: all these crazy things. He can just say, sue me.

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Speaker 1: We've already certified the election. So uh. You know, look,

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Speaker 1: I think this is again a lot of smoke, uh

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Speaker 1: no fire. Um, We've we've already spent two years here

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Speaker 1: and from Donald Trump about his election loss being stolen

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Speaker 1: and not a shred of evidence of Is this going

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Speaker 1: to lead to some audit or something all over again,

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Speaker 1: or does Arizona have the goods to shut this down? Well?

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Speaker 1: Just remember the audit was a political audit that came

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Speaker 1: out of the legislature. Uh, there doesn't seem to be

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Speaker 1: any real desire by folks in the legislature today to

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Speaker 1: try to do what they did and failed last time.

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Speaker 1: I mean they audited the elections in and Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: got a few extra VOTs. I mean it was like, wow,

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Speaker 1: that's really helpful. So look at this stage, really the

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Speaker 1: big game is Coaches County. They are the only county

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Speaker 1: in Arizona that did not certify its results as required

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Speaker 1: by law, and even they are on the record have saying, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're just posturing on this thing. So the

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State, who happens to be the governor elect

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Speaker 1: h is suing Coaches County. What I find incredibly ironic

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Speaker 1: is it's an all red state. So if the Coaches County,

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, gets thrown out, the attorney who's only

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Speaker 1: behind by five votes has no chance of getting elected

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Speaker 1: because there will be thousands and thousands of votes for

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Speaker 1: him in Coaches County. So this is a This is

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Speaker 1: a problem that we have where people try to undermine

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Speaker 1: the integrity of perfectly normal elections, and even the supervisors

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Speaker 1: met in Coaches. Oh, we had a normal vote, but

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Speaker 1: we're doing this in solidarity to the people in the

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Speaker 1: Copa County who got this enfranchised. So, Jeannie, what's next

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Speaker 1: for carry Lake? Then? I mean, we're gonna watch this

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Speaker 1: unfold for the next two years? Or does she become

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's shoeing for a VP candidate. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm a bit disappointed she's on Twitter and not on truth.

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Speaker 1: But I hope she gets her I don't know where

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Speaker 1: to find her, but I just want to follow up

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Speaker 1: and ricks does you you guys talking about Coaches County.

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Speaker 1: The irony and the absurdity of that is if they

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Speaker 1: failed to certify by Arizona law, then we could very

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Speaker 1: well see a Democrat win the House seat in the

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Speaker 1: sixth congressional district because they the fourteen thousand votes that

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Speaker 1: the Republican won would not be counted and Kristin Ingle

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Speaker 1: may well take that six district. So they are protesting.

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Speaker 1: They say they did nothing wrong, it's in solidarity with Maricopa,

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Speaker 1: and yet they may push a Democrat into that House.

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Speaker 1: So it's utterly absurd. And you know, carry Lake will continue,

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Speaker 1: but I think you know, kudos to these election workers

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Speaker 1: in Georgia and Arizona who are fighting this fight and

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Speaker 1: doing the right thing. Leadership does matter. Carry Lake is

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Speaker 1: absolutely wrong, and you know, got you know, let's all

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Speaker 1: hope that there aren't some crazy people out there who

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Speaker 1: act violently. It hasn't happened yet, but this kind of

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Speaker 1: incitement is the real danger here. And you know, she

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Speaker 1: and Donald Trump they have to be very careful what

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Speaker 1: they say. But did you hear the US beat Iran?

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Speaker 1: I spoke to the coach and the players as said

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Speaker 1: you can do this. They they did it. God love them. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: I just thought you might want to hear. Yeah, Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden runs back to the podium as the USA beats Iran.

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Speaker 1: One zip. That's the football, the soccer, you know, Rick

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Speaker 1: and Genie, thank you. We need more time on this thing.

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Speaker 1: The fastest hour in politics, Go USA. This is Bloomberg.

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