WEBVTT - Frank Ragnow 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.920 This episode of Busting with the Boys The Boys is 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.720 brought to you by Barstool Sports. Today we have on 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.480 Frank rag Now he's a center slash guard for the 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:10.320 Detroit Lions. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:11.280 So another old lineman. 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:13.760 Shout out the boys, shout out the tanks up front, dude. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:16.919 Frank is an avid outdoorsman. He opped on the pod 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.439 to talk about everything from his hardships of his NFL 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.960 rookie season, like paying for tabs, some rookie duties that 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.520 you gotta do. Also, he has a YouTube channel, Grizzly 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.320 Man Outdoors. Go check out the boy support them, subscribe. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.599 We talk about Lions head coach coach Patricia. We talk 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.480 about Lions being you know, you guys know the drill 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.280 with the Detroit Lions. We give different We talk about 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:43.440 experiences with our college recruiting process. We talk about Frank's 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.960 dad and how he's had a huge inspiration on Frank's 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.920 life since his passing, which is a pretty which is 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.320 a pretty deep story that we get into. You know, 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.040 his dad, Hey, I said it on the pod. His 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.600 dad is definitely proud of what Frank is doing today. 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.440 Frank also, you know, on a on a more positive light, Frank. Uh, 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.240 I forget what happened because you know CT but we 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.559 had Frank. He took his shirt off for whatever reason. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:10.959 I forget what it is. It might have been me 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:16.240 getting who knows what happened? Uh, sit back, relax, you know, 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:20.400 enjoy the boys man. Subscribe follow us. We're a busting 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.480 WTB on social. Subscribe to our pod if you're If 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.240 you're already subscribed, get on the app now on subscribe 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.080 and then resubscribe again. It helps us all those fun 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.240 little algorithms out there because we got to grow this 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:33.280 thing and we're doing it with you. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:33.639 Guys. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:38.520 We appreciate you biggest hugs, tiniest kisses. Now, let's get 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.160 to the episode of Frank rag Now. Frank rag Now, Okay, 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.240 I apologize for interrupting your story. Finish your story then 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:45.559 we can get. 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.880 No, it's just telling Frank, you know, growing up as 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.640 a not man but kind of me actually. But I'll 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.520 get into my own stuff later. This is my podcast. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:54.200 I'll do whatever I want. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.120 When I was talking to rag Now, he was telling 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.480 me how he was a chubby, little tiny bunny and 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.760 that he had some issues, and I said, well, being 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.720 a chubby, tiny bunny and having some issues and being 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.680 a ginger. But then he you know, he said, autumn 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:11.400 Leaf is his Uh, yes, I hate hate it was coming. Yeah, 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.760 it was coming. That was one interruption. You're on fire 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.440 and we're actually not even quoted to start for another minute. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:18.880 It's gonna be a rough hour. It's gonna be a 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:19.880 rough hour, my baby. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.639 But God, Frank, you're a ginger. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.959 No, I'm I'm automn leaf bottomn leaf. 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.520 I can see, I can see. I've never heard that, 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:30.640 and I fucking love. 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.400 That brown right up for interpretations. 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.680 Fall Well, I'm gonna say one name to you and 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.160 you have to tell me your reaction. 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:44.320 Kyle Kyless, Yeah, that's him, That's that is him. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.040 Have you ever met Kyle Kyless? 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.840 No, but I've I've worked out over at Michigan and 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:52.919 all those people around there. Just say his name. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.320 Yeah, Kyle Carl was Kyle was a five star recruit 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.520 and he's a legend like that. He was a he 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.480 was a five star recruit. We stole him from Ohio 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:06.160 State and when he decoded, I don't know if he decode, 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:08.760 but he was definitely like thinking about going to Ahio 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.440 State big time. Said fuck Ohio State. I'm going to Michigan. 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.760 That's how it's going to be. He started getting hate 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.399 mail from everywhere because I don't like, like when you 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.880 played at ar Kansas, So it's a it's way different 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.480 down there. You guys don't have rivals. You're kind of 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.239 like Vanderbilt're kind of stuck in the SEC hoping that 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:33.000 dot you can figure something out. That's too I'm trying 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:34.560 to tell him about Kyle Kyless. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.760 Mark Kansas was way too casual and I'm supposed to 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:37.680 just sit here and take that. 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.600 No, dude, the what like, what are you like? Ar 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:44.160 Kansas is literally like it's like Missouri, It's like Idaho. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:48.120 It's like we we have the territory and we're just like, hey, 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.000 I guess we're like a bigger country because of this, 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:51.720 but it's really not doing anything for us, you know 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.840 what I'm saying. What's that? 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.120 He said? Respect? Did you grow up in Arkansas? 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:58.680 No, I'm from Minnesota. 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.200 I'll just tell my story, letter. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:02.040 Tell your story, Taylor. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:07.880 So Kyle k he gets he gets recruited. He says 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:09.560 House State, I'm gonna go to Michigan. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:09.640 Now. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.680 He goes to Michigan and This is how arrogant this 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.680 dude was. He was getting hate mail, so he put 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:18.080 his address on Twitter and said, any you haters want 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:19.480 to come get it, you can find me here at 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:23.160 this address. No one showed up, all shirt and no 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.560 trousers over there in Ohio. And if anybody in from 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.400 Ohio is listening to this right now, Mike Rabel, ohiose 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.800 sucks because I know I know very you know you 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:33.680 know who Mike Ribel is. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:34.360 I do. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.040 He's definitely listening to this podcast right now. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.280 You're sorry you recruiting me out Ohio State? 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:40.680 Did he really wanted to go to hospital? 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:42.840 What was it like? What was it like? 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.120 Getting he was cool? Man? 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:46.560 How many times did he call you? 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:46.880 Buster? 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.480 He probably doesn't even remember me. But it's fine. He 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.839 recruited me not too hard. But we had a couple 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:53.720 of conversations. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:55.240 Who's the better football player? 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:55.520 You were? 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:56.120 Billy Price? 0:04:58.080 --> 0:04:59.840 I don't know, man, that's up for interpretation. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:01.240 Who's Billy Price? 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:02.560 Billy Price is a center. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.400 He came out the same year as I did, and. 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.279 They're both centers, both first round picks if I'm not 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:13.000 mistaken correct, So you guys could have had a little battle. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.000 Yeah, we could have a few, but we were actually 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.280 I mean, I don't want to say we're boys because 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:18.960 we're on the Boys podcast, but we were kind of 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:19.880 boys at the combine. 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:21.560 Yeah. No, no, no. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.440 You're the best thing about being the boys, you can 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.839 just be. Yeah, that is outside of this podcast. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:25.960 That is a worldly thing. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.000 Okay, I just didn't you know, I didn't know if 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.679 Boys is like something very you know, brgeous boys. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.160 No, it's not what. We didn't come up with that ship. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:33.880 No, we didn't. 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:34.400 Boys. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.760 No one, no one ever comes up with for the boys, 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:38.480 like if you're either former or against them. You know 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.760 what I'm saying. It's black and white. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:41.839 There's no gray area. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.839 I haven't even seen fifty shits great, But that was 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.440 so Minnesota of you, Like, I don't know if I 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.320 can do this or not? You know the other one there, 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.640 my Minnesota. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:56.119 Hey what what were you? What use? How many stars 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.640 did you have coming out? I think I was? Who 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.800 who you asking? I'm asking, I'm asking our guests. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:04.880 I'm asking Scout dot com? 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.560 Oh yeah yeah, Scout and Rivals three. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.400 I was a three star killer? 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:11.560 What about Scout? 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.640 Three star? ESP four? 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.480 Wow? ESPN wasn't as big when I was younger. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:18.440 Yeah, I was. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.520 You know, I'll tell you what, three star is the 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.240 best star because it's like it's enough to get retreated 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.800 by the Bay schools, but it's not enough to have 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.480 too much of an expectation, So people sleep on you 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:30.760 a little bit more when you're a three star. If 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.800 you're a five star, you're fucked from the beginning. Dude, 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:34.360 it is over. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:35.080 What were you? 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.719 I was a So I was a zero star until 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:39.480 my senior year. 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.040 That everyone's a zero star. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.760 No, did you have offers when you were a junior. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.839 After my junior year going into my senior year, Yeah, 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.840 I did not, so I had no Okay, but we 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.240 were still zero stars before we got into the database. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.480 So I was. I ended up at the end being 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.039 a four star, ended up and that was a little 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.159 too rich for my taste. 0:06:59.160 --> 0:06:59.520 I was. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:01.560 I was sleeping on that three star for a little bit. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.479 So you're a four star, just fucking you wanted to 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:05.200 be a three star? 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.520 Will So you've just had life handed to you on 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:12.000 a dinner play kind of Yeah, well, I mean grinded. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.320 Yeah, No, three stars is definitely grind I'm I'm one 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.360 of those people that like is just just good at everything, Frank, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.920 and I just is what it is. Yes, Everything's been 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.080 handed to me my entire life. I've had zero adversity. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.560 I kind of just have lived on a cushy cloud 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.480 of marshmallows and candy canes and it's been amazing. And 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.480 so probably shouldn't keep it going at this point, you know, 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:34.200 And there's Will Compton has it hasn't stead a chance 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.520 since day one, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.280 Hey, I'll tell you what. You know what, I was 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.360 actually a four star. So it's kind of sucks that 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.480 I was like a four star and you don't get 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.200 drafted being a four star. So you're like, did I 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.080 Appliateau in high school? You know what I mean? 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.120 Yeah, you're You're like my best friend Nick Bennett. You 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:49.160 you peaked in high school. 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.400 You know. I don't argue that high school is a 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:53.800 great time in my life. I would go back to 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.200 high school and heartbeat to replay those fucking days, dude, Uner, 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.680 the Friday night lights, bro beat, the fucking big fish 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.600 out there playing all those little white boys. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.360 In your year of high school was on reel. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.680 It truly, it truly is like the best football ever 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:10.560 isn't it the purest dude figure. I think I like 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:15.440 you better than Kyle Kyless, pretty nicer. We'll put together. 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:19.680 Hey, Kyle's pretty nice Kyle, I mean yeah, maybe got. 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.560 That drenching blaze over his eyes though when you look 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.000 at when you when you talk to him too long, 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.560 he'll just zone out on you. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.680 Is he he is he still with the Redskins? No? 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.960 We were in Oakland this past year together? 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.640 Okay news? Yeah, I don't know. 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.520 He was on the peace squad life out there, dude. 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:39.719 He got cut one time then brought back like a 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.719 few weeks later. Such an awkward conversation. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.120 You know what I mean, We're gonna go in a 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:49.920 different direction. J K L O L come back that 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:50.439 type of thing. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's like, hey man, good to 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:58.199 see you back, dude. Yeah, he's like, yeah, you know 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.680 how it is. I'm like, fuck, it's a tough life 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.640 to live, bro, living on that peace spot life. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:03.520 Yeah. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.600 How many uses Caylevin in the league? Like three or four? 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:06.480 Right? 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.199 I think his rookie year is my last year the 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:14.480 Scancels since twenty seventeen, so eighteen nineteen this is gonna 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:15.160 be four Yeah. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:20.240 Wow, what year is this for you guys. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:19.040 Going on eight? 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:20.520 Old heads? 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.240 Yeah, Will's got eight. This will be my third season. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.720 No, it's shut the fuck up my third season. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:26.920 Bro. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.200 Oh dude, it's us with the same draft class. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.520 No, I'm going to You're going on your seven, right. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.480 I know, dude. It's crazy when like year seven, you 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.240 just gotta I got a ring to it. Dude, when 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.120 you hit five, you're like, I'm over that hump. I'm 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.479 on the hump. Actually that's seven. You feel like a 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.240 you kind of do feel like a vet. You know 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.400 what I'm saying. Well, how were you treated. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:49.000 When you were a rookie? 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:50.800 Was it like? Was it no holds bar? 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:51.120 Like? 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:53.480 Would you have Larry Warford? 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:54.120 No? 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:55.640 You didn't have Larry? 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.520 No, I didn't have I was after Larry? Who did I? 0:09:58.520 --> 0:09:59.559 I had T J Lang? 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:01.680 Oh I bet that was a trip. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:02.160 Yeah? 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:06.439 Interesting? Uh Rick Wagner, Graham, you know Graham Glasgow, Dude. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.800 That's my absolutely like, I love him, that's my homie. 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.080 He's one of the most interesting people in the world, 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:11.480 I think. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.079 So, yeah, he is such like you meet him and 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.200 you're like, how awkward is this guy? When you first 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:16.800 talked to him? 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.400 Awkward but hilarious. 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.840 Hilarious dude. The more you like kind of like are 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.800 around him, you start to understand a sense of humor. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.920 And he is so so funny. He reminds me of 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:28.800 your friend Brad Will, Like he kind of just makes 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.520 fun of himself the whole timeating human. He's like the 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.200 butt of every time. And he talks about like literally, 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.520 if you listen, if he were to narrate his own life, 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.200 it's basically him talking about like how shit never goes right. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:45.920 It's awful, it's amazing. Graham is Grahama's all time. He 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.119 got married in February. 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.120 Yeah, it was, dude. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.880 He's his wife's awesome Alice. She went to Michigan. That 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.080 whole crew is that whole cruise epic dude. Who Glasgow family, Dude, 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:57.320 They're just the Glasgow clan is. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.040 Strong, good family. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.760 Dude. All walk ons you think by the last one 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.760 they say, Hey, do just fuck give this guy a scholarship. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:08.080 I mean he's gonna earn one anyway. Graham came in 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.800 as a walk on, will earns a Scollie. His next 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.559 brother comes in Earns a Scollie. Both start both in 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.880 the NFL. Then Jordi, the youngest comes in, didn't give 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.200 him a scholarship, walked on and now he's he got 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:21.560 drafted in the sixth round this year. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.560 The whole family got drafted, so all of them just 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:26.360 had to be walk on. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.120 All of them were walk ons, like people who have 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.480 lived a completely privileged life. Flight myself look at people 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:32.920 like that and be like, wow, it must have been tough. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.280 Yeah, that's uh. That walk on life is a grind 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:38.080 in itself. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.320 Too, no question, no question. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:45.960 So what TJ Lang, big old beer gut, great head 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:50.000 of hair, amazing beard. What was he like, probably had 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.079 a chewing constantly. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:53.280 Yeah, that's correct. 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:54.920 How did he How did he treat you? 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:55.000 Like? 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.680 When when you how was your first couple of days 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.679 when you walked in? You that's for the first time 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:01.960 because I don't know about you will, but I remember 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.800 it like it was my like like yesterday, Oh, you're 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:05.600 sweating bullets. 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.360 You're nervous as I don't even want to go back 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.160 to that fear like it is a fear bubble, just 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:10.640 having to. 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.360 Like chain shirts in between each meeting because you're just nervous. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.280 Yeah, you you like go in and the coaches are 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:20.440 asking you questions and you can't get one right. But everybody, 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.120 for some reason knows the playbook way better than you, 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.280 even the other rookies. You're like, how do you guys 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:25.599 already know this? Did you guys like get something I 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.320 didn't get? It just feels like that all the time, 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:28.880 doesn't it. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.360 Yeah, hell of an experience. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:32.679 Talk about your rookie year. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:39.600 Uh, it was tough, I'd say, but TJ was actually 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.840 really cool. He was that was his last year, so 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.800 I think he was kind of like partially like soaking 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:47.719 it in, but he had He also had a lot 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.160 of injuries and stuff and whatnot, so it was kind 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:51.840 of a tougher year for him. But he helped me 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.959 out a lot because I was a center in college 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.880 and then the day after they drafted me, they called 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.120 me and they said you're gonna play left guard. So 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.640 then I was kind of like learning that and he 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.719 kind of mentored me a lot there. But I was 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.360 also with like Castle, Matt Castle, you guys, have you 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:10.960 guys play with him at all? Beauty on the like, 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.920 funniest dude I've ever met. Right, He's a good he 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.480 was a good bet to have. He was hilarious and 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.320 here he lighted things up. But it was a I mean, 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.680 it was a it was a long year as for 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.079 sure that you felt like it never was gonna end, 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:24.960 but it was good. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.199 Is it tough going from center to guard? 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.840 I think it's it's tough. I think in the run game, 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.640 not much of it, not that crazy of a difference. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:38.240 But in terms of like pass pro like understanding, like 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.600 your balance and your footwork, it's a little bit more different. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.960 Easier or harder, which one? Which one is the easier spot? 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:47.240 Physically? 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:52.240 Center is the easiest one physically center, But like then center, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.559 there's the mental aspect that people don't realize. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.959 Is it pretty? You gotta be insanely smart playing center? 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.960 Is it kind of like, you know, being a middle linebacker? 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:08.560 I like to think so, yeah. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.160 Like you like again, not that you bring it up, well, 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:10.720 it is kind of like being a middle linebacker actually 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:11.599 more than a quarterback. 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.440 What was your uh, you're a first rounder? What was 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:20.920 your bill on your rookie dinner? I want to know 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:21.800 this with Taylor too. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:26.640 Mine was four thousand, but then tip and then we 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.240 also had a party bus and alcohol in the party bus, 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.160 so I think it probably ended up being like six 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.160 but maybe. But then I had a fifth rounder, Tyler 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.080 Crosby too, so he helped out a little, so it 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:43.040 wasn't terrible fuck due the fifth rounder. Yeah, he helped 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.600 out with like the drinks. I think that's it. 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.200 Sounds like you have a terrible culture in Detroit. We 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:49.960 should really dig into that because. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:54.200 So, you know, six thousand bucks for a full room 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.360 of O Lineman Taylor, what was your? What was your? 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.720 I actually got a comment like we my week was 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.280 suposed to be Bob's Steakhouse and that's like the most 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.360 expensive steakhouse in Nashville, and I walked in and there 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.120 was like bottles everywhere. But it actually ended up being 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.720 Mettenberger's week that week. So I'm thinking here sweating the 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.720 whole time. Then they started doing the numbers and Zach 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.160 Mettenberger had to pay for that one the next week. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:19.960 Oh random farm place. It was like eighteen hundred bucks. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:21.720 And they did the best they could. They did the 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.440 best they could do it. 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.760 Oh my god, yo, you lucky I had. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.760 I had a real tough room. Two ten year vets. 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.400 One of the ten year vets was Michael Ruse, who literally, 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.800 like Ken wizzen Hunt drafted me and was like, you're 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.640 gonna replace. This is the guy you're gonna replace. I'm 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.520 just like, hey, Mike, like we be friends. He was cool. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:41.800 He was cool to me, but it was like it 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.360 was definitely like a very hard being a rookie, like 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.240 in that kind of situation, Like it was awkward as 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.240 all hell. But you guys, you said a fifth round 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.000 you were a first round pick and you had to 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.520 split a dinner with a fifth round pick. Do you 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.840 guys go to dinner in a week then split it? 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.560 No? Okay, just tell us the numbers. Tell us the numbers. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.160 Paint this story, dude? Is you this podcast is your 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:03.080 fucking canvas? 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.480 Bro? I think uh, I think he Here's what I 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.480 told him. I pay for the majority of everything, and 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.040 he organized, so I didn't. I didn't want to do 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.800 any of the organizing. So he booked the bus. I 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.040 think he bought some of the alcohol, and then I 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:18.000 pity for everything else. 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:21.320 Do you have any stories that was the best story 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.640 of the night? Hm, you have a best story of 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.360 the night? Is there a big memory that fucking stands out? Nah? 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.040 Dude, I mean we didn't win many ball games that season, 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.800 so it's not like we were, and I think we haven't. 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:36.320 Really we did it during the during the week or 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.840 I think it was after Thanksgiving and I saw that 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:40.920 subtle shot. So take it easy. 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.640 Hey, we've all been on some losing teams. Yeah, you know, 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.720 he not hiss drought. I mean it's drought out. 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.160 There, and it's a drought out there in Detroit. Dude, 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.600 it's tough. It's tough sledting. I respect the hell of it. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.320