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Speaker 1: Frank rag Now he's a center slash guard for the
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Speaker 1: life since his passing, which is a pretty which is
Speaker 1: a pretty deep story that we get into. You know,
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Speaker 1: to the episode of Frank rag Now. Frank rag Now, Okay,
Speaker 1: I apologize for interrupting your story. Finish your story then
Speaker 1: we can get.
Speaker 3: No, it's just telling Frank, you know, growing up as
Speaker 3: a not man but kind of me actually. But I'll
Speaker 3: get into my own stuff later. This is my podcast.
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever I want.
Speaker 3: When I was talking to rag Now, he was telling
Speaker 3: me how he was a chubby, little tiny bunny and
Speaker 3: that he had some issues, and I said, well, being
Speaker 3: a chubby, tiny bunny and having some issues and being
Speaker 3: a ginger. But then he you know, he said, autumn
Speaker 3: Leaf is his Uh, yes, I hate hate it was coming. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was coming. That was one interruption. You're on fire
Speaker 3: and we're actually not even quoted to start for another minute.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a rough hour. It's gonna be a
Speaker 3: rough hour, my baby.
Speaker 1: But God, Frank, you're a ginger.
Speaker 4: No, I'm I'm automn leaf bottomn leaf.
Speaker 1: I can see, I can see. I've never heard that,
Speaker 1: and I fucking love.
Speaker 4: That brown right up for interpretations.
Speaker 3: Fall Well, I'm gonna say one name to you and
Speaker 3: you have to tell me your reaction.
Speaker 1: Kyle Kyless, Yeah, that's him, That's that is him.
Speaker 3: Have you ever met Kyle Kyless?
Speaker 4: No, but I've I've worked out over at Michigan and
Speaker 4: all those people around there. Just say his name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kyle Carl was Kyle was a five star recruit
Speaker 3: and he's a legend like that. He was a he
Speaker 3: was a five star recruit. We stole him from Ohio
Speaker 3: State and when he decoded, I don't know if he decode,
Speaker 3: but he was definitely like thinking about going to Ahio
Speaker 3: State big time. Said fuck Ohio State. I'm going to Michigan.
Speaker 3: That's how it's going to be. He started getting hate
Speaker 3: mail from everywhere because I don't like, like when you
Speaker 3: played at ar Kansas, So it's a it's way different
Speaker 3: down there. You guys don't have rivals. You're kind of
Speaker 3: like Vanderbilt're kind of stuck in the SEC hoping that
Speaker 3: dot you can figure something out. That's too I'm trying
Speaker 3: to tell him about Kyle Kyless.
Speaker 4: Mark Kansas was way too casual and I'm supposed to
Speaker 4: just sit here and take that.
Speaker 3: No, dude, the what like, what are you like? Ar
Speaker 3: Kansas is literally like it's like Missouri, It's like Idaho.
Speaker 3: It's like we we have the territory and we're just like, hey,
Speaker 3: I guess we're like a bigger country because of this,
Speaker 3: but it's really not doing anything for us, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. What's that?
Speaker 1: He said? Respect? Did you grow up in Arkansas?
Speaker 4: No, I'm from Minnesota.
Speaker 3: I'll just tell my story, letter.
Speaker 1: Tell your story, Taylor.
Speaker 3: So Kyle k he gets he gets recruited. He says
Speaker 3: House State, I'm gonna go to Michigan.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: He goes to Michigan and This is how arrogant this
Speaker 3: dude was. He was getting hate mail, so he put
Speaker 3: his address on Twitter and said, any you haters want
Speaker 3: to come get it, you can find me here at
Speaker 3: this address. No one showed up, all shirt and no
Speaker 3: trousers over there in Ohio. And if anybody in from
Speaker 3: Ohio is listening to this right now, Mike Rabel, ohiose
Speaker 3: sucks because I know I know very you know you
Speaker 3: know who Mike Ribel is.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: He's definitely listening to this podcast right now.
Speaker 4: You're sorry you recruiting me out Ohio State?
Speaker 3: Did he really wanted to go to hospital?
Speaker 1: What was it like? What was it like?
Speaker 4: Getting he was cool? Man?
Speaker 3: How many times did he call you?
Speaker 2: Buster?
Speaker 4: He probably doesn't even remember me. But it's fine. He
Speaker 4: recruited me not too hard. But we had a couple
Speaker 4: of conversations.
Speaker 3: Who's the better football player?
Speaker 2: You were?
Speaker 3: Billy Price?
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, that's up for interpretation.
Speaker 1: Who's Billy Price?
Speaker 5: Billy Price is a center.
Speaker 4: He came out the same year as I did, and.
Speaker 3: They're both centers, both first round picks if I'm not
Speaker 3: mistaken correct, So you guys could have had a little battle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could have a few, but we were actually
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to say we're boys because
Speaker 4: we're on the Boys podcast, but we were kind of
Speaker 4: boys at the combine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, no.
Speaker 3: You're the best thing about being the boys, you can
Speaker 3: just be. Yeah, that is outside of this podcast.
Speaker 5: That is a worldly thing.
Speaker 4: Okay, I just didn't you know, I didn't know if
Speaker 4: Boys is like something very you know, brgeous boys.
Speaker 1: No, it's not what. We didn't come up with that ship.
Speaker 3: No, we didn't.
Speaker 4: Boys.
Speaker 3: No one, no one ever comes up with for the boys,
Speaker 3: like if you're either former or against them. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It's black and white.
Speaker 5: There's no gray area.
Speaker 3: I haven't even seen fifty shits great, But that was
Speaker 3: so Minnesota of you, Like, I don't know if I
Speaker 3: can do this or not? You know the other one there,
Speaker 3: my Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Hey what what were you? What use? How many stars
Speaker 1: did you have coming out? I think I was? Who
Speaker 1: who you asking? I'm asking, I'm asking our guests.
Speaker 3: I'm asking Scout dot com?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, Scout and Rivals three.
Speaker 4: I was a three star killer?
Speaker 1: What about Scout?
Speaker 4: Three star? ESP four?
Speaker 1: Wow? ESPN wasn't as big when I was younger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: You know, I'll tell you what, three star is the
Speaker 3: best star because it's like it's enough to get retreated
Speaker 3: by the Bay schools, but it's not enough to have
Speaker 3: too much of an expectation, So people sleep on you
Speaker 3: a little bit more when you're a three star. If
Speaker 3: you're a five star, you're fucked from the beginning. Dude,
Speaker 3: it is over.
Speaker 4: What were you?
Speaker 3: I was a So I was a zero star until
Speaker 3: my senior year.
Speaker 1: That everyone's a zero star.
Speaker 3: No, did you have offers when you were a junior.
Speaker 1: After my junior year going into my senior year, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did not, so I had no Okay, but we
Speaker 1: were still zero stars before we got into the database.
Speaker 3: So I was. I ended up at the end being
Speaker 3: a four star, ended up and that was a little
Speaker 3: too rich for my taste.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: I was sleeping on that three star for a little bit.
Speaker 3: So you're a four star, just fucking you wanted to
Speaker 3: be a three star?
Speaker 4: Will So you've just had life handed to you on
Speaker 4: a dinner play kind of Yeah, well, I mean grinded.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, three stars is definitely grind I'm I'm one
Speaker 3: of those people that like is just just good at everything, Frank,
Speaker 3: and I just is what it is. Yes, Everything's been
Speaker 3: handed to me my entire life. I've had zero adversity.
Speaker 3: I kind of just have lived on a cushy cloud
Speaker 3: of marshmallows and candy canes and it's been amazing. And
Speaker 3: so probably shouldn't keep it going at this point, you know,
Speaker 3: And there's Will Compton has it hasn't stead a chance
Speaker 3: since day one, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'll tell you what. You know what, I was
Speaker 1: actually a four star. So it's kind of sucks that
Speaker 1: I was like a four star and you don't get
Speaker 1: drafted being a four star. So you're like, did I
Speaker 1: Appliateau in high school? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're You're like my best friend Nick Bennett. You
Speaker 3: you peaked in high school.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't argue that high school is a
Speaker 1: great time in my life. I would go back to
Speaker 1: high school and heartbeat to replay those fucking days, dude, Uner,
Speaker 1: the Friday night lights, bro beat, the fucking big fish
Speaker 1: out there playing all those little white boys.
Speaker 4: In your year of high school was on reel.
Speaker 3: It truly, it truly is like the best football ever
Speaker 3: isn't it the purest dude figure. I think I like
Speaker 3: you better than Kyle Kyless, pretty nicer. We'll put together.
Speaker 1: Hey, Kyle's pretty nice Kyle, I mean yeah, maybe got.
Speaker 3: That drenching blaze over his eyes though when you look
Speaker 3: at when you when you talk to him too long,
Speaker 3: he'll just zone out on you.
Speaker 4: Is he he is he still with the Redskins? No?
Speaker 1: We were in Oakland this past year together?
Speaker 4: Okay news? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He was on the peace squad life out there, dude.
Speaker 1: He got cut one time then brought back like a
Speaker 1: few weeks later. Such an awkward conversation.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, We're gonna go in a
Speaker 3: different direction. J K L O L come back that
Speaker 3: type of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's like, hey man, good to
Speaker 1: see you back, dude. Yeah, he's like, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: how it is. I'm like, fuck, it's a tough life
Speaker 1: to live, bro, living on that peace spot life.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: How many uses Caylevin in the league? Like three or four?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: I think his rookie year is my last year the
Speaker 1: Scancels since twenty seventeen, so eighteen nineteen this is gonna
Speaker 1: be four Yeah.
Speaker 4: Wow, what year is this for you guys.
Speaker 1: Going on eight?
Speaker 4: Old heads?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Will's got eight. This will be my third season.
Speaker 1: No, it's shut the fuck up my third season.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, it's us with the same draft class.
Speaker 1: No, I'm going to You're going on your seven, right.
Speaker 3: I know, dude. It's crazy when like year seven, you
Speaker 3: just gotta I got a ring to it. Dude, when
Speaker 3: you hit five, you're like, I'm over that hump. I'm
Speaker 3: on the hump. Actually that's seven. You feel like a
Speaker 3: you kind of do feel like a vet. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Well, how were you treated.
Speaker 2: When you were a rookie?
Speaker 3: Was it like? Was it no holds bar?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Would you have Larry Warford?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: You didn't have Larry?
Speaker 4: No, I didn't have I was after Larry? Who did I?
Speaker 4: I had T J Lang?
Speaker 3: Oh I bet that was a trip.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Interesting? Uh Rick Wagner, Graham, you know Graham Glasgow, Dude.
Speaker 5: That's my absolutely like, I love him, that's my homie.
Speaker 4: He's one of the most interesting people in the world,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, he is such like you meet him and
Speaker 3: you're like, how awkward is this guy? When you first
Speaker 3: talked to him?
Speaker 4: Awkward but hilarious.
Speaker 3: Hilarious dude. The more you like kind of like are
Speaker 3: around him, you start to understand a sense of humor.
Speaker 3: And he is so so funny. He reminds me of
Speaker 3: your friend Brad Will, Like he kind of just makes
Speaker 3: fun of himself the whole timeating human. He's like the
Speaker 3: butt of every time. And he talks about like literally,
Speaker 3: if you listen, if he were to narrate his own life,
Speaker 3: it's basically him talking about like how shit never goes right.
Speaker 3: It's awful, it's amazing. Graham is Grahama's all time. He
Speaker 3: got married in February.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, dude.
Speaker 3: He's his wife's awesome Alice. She went to Michigan. That
Speaker 3: whole crew is that whole cruise epic dude. Who Glasgow family, Dude,
Speaker 3: They're just the Glasgow clan is.
Speaker 4: Strong, good family.
Speaker 3: Dude. All walk ons you think by the last one
Speaker 3: they say, Hey, do just fuck give this guy a scholarship.
Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna earn one anyway. Graham came in
Speaker 3: as a walk on, will earns a Scollie. His next
Speaker 3: brother comes in Earns a Scollie. Both start both in
Speaker 3: the NFL. Then Jordi, the youngest comes in, didn't give
Speaker 3: him a scholarship, walked on and now he's he got
Speaker 3: drafted in the sixth round this year.
Speaker 1: The whole family got drafted, so all of them just
Speaker 1: had to be walk on.
Speaker 3: All of them were walk ons, like people who have
Speaker 3: lived a completely privileged life. Flight myself look at people
Speaker 3: like that and be like, wow, it must have been tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh. That walk on life is a grind
Speaker 1: in itself.
Speaker 5: Too, no question, no question.
Speaker 3: So what TJ Lang, big old beer gut, great head
Speaker 3: of hair, amazing beard. What was he like, probably had
Speaker 3: a chewing constantly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 3: How did he How did he treat you?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: When when you how was your first couple of days
Speaker 3: when you walked in? You that's for the first time
Speaker 3: because I don't know about you will, but I remember
Speaker 3: it like it was my like like yesterday, Oh, you're
Speaker 3: sweating bullets.
Speaker 1: You're nervous as I don't even want to go back
Speaker 1: to that fear like it is a fear bubble, just
Speaker 1: having to.
Speaker 4: Like chain shirts in between each meeting because you're just nervous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you you like go in and the coaches are
Speaker 3: asking you questions and you can't get one right. But everybody,
Speaker 3: for some reason knows the playbook way better than you,
Speaker 3: even the other rookies. You're like, how do you guys
Speaker 3: already know this? Did you guys like get something I
Speaker 3: didn't get? It just feels like that all the time,
Speaker 3: doesn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hell of an experience.
Speaker 1: Talk about your rookie year.
Speaker 4: Uh, it was tough, I'd say, but TJ was actually
Speaker 4: really cool. He was that was his last year, so
Speaker 4: I think he was kind of like partially like soaking
Speaker 4: it in, but he had He also had a lot
Speaker 4: of injuries and stuff and whatnot, so it was kind
Speaker 4: of a tougher year for him. But he helped me
Speaker 4: out a lot because I was a center in college
Speaker 4: and then the day after they drafted me, they called
Speaker 4: me and they said you're gonna play left guard. So
Speaker 4: then I was kind of like learning that and he
Speaker 4: kind of mentored me a lot there. But I was
Speaker 4: also with like Castle, Matt Castle, you guys, have you
Speaker 4: guys play with him at all? Beauty on the like,
Speaker 4: funniest dude I've ever met. Right, He's a good he
Speaker 4: was a good bet to have. He was hilarious and
Speaker 4: here he lighted things up. But it was a I mean,
Speaker 4: it was a it was a long year as for
Speaker 4: sure that you felt like it never was gonna end,
Speaker 4: but it was good.
Speaker 1: Is it tough going from center to guard?
Speaker 4: I think it's it's tough. I think in the run game,
Speaker 4: not much of it, not that crazy of a difference.
Speaker 4: But in terms of like pass pro like understanding, like
Speaker 4: your balance and your footwork, it's a little bit more different.
Speaker 1: Easier or harder, which one? Which one is the easier spot?
Speaker 3: Physically?
Speaker 4: Center is the easiest one physically center, But like then center,
Speaker 4: there's the mental aspect that people don't realize.
Speaker 1: Is it pretty? You gotta be insanely smart playing center?
Speaker 1: Is it kind of like, you know, being a middle linebacker?
Speaker 4: I like to think so, yeah.
Speaker 3: Like you like again, not that you bring it up, well,
Speaker 3: it is kind of like being a middle linebacker actually
Speaker 3: more than a quarterback.
Speaker 1: What was your uh, you're a first rounder? What was
Speaker 1: your bill on your rookie dinner? I want to know
Speaker 1: this with Taylor too.
Speaker 4: Mine was four thousand, but then tip and then we
Speaker 4: also had a party bus and alcohol in the party bus,
Speaker 4: so I think it probably ended up being like six
Speaker 4: but maybe. But then I had a fifth rounder, Tyler
Speaker 4: Crosby too, so he helped out a little, so it
Speaker 4: wasn't terrible fuck due the fifth rounder. Yeah, he helped
Speaker 4: out with like the drinks. I think that's it.
Speaker 3: Sounds like you have a terrible culture in Detroit. We
Speaker 3: should really dig into that because.
Speaker 1: So, you know, six thousand bucks for a full room
Speaker 1: of O Lineman Taylor, what was your? What was your?
Speaker 3: I actually got a comment like we my week was
Speaker 3: suposed to be Bob's Steakhouse and that's like the most
Speaker 3: expensive steakhouse in Nashville, and I walked in and there
Speaker 3: was like bottles everywhere. But it actually ended up being
Speaker 3: Mettenberger's week that week. So I'm thinking here sweating the
Speaker 3: whole time. Then they started doing the numbers and Zach
Speaker 3: Mettenberger had to pay for that one the next week.
Speaker 3: Oh random farm place. It was like eighteen hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: And they did the best they could. They did the
Speaker 3: best they could do it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yo, you lucky I had.
Speaker 3: I had a real tough room. Two ten year vets.
Speaker 3: One of the ten year vets was Michael Ruse, who literally,
Speaker 3: like Ken wizzen Hunt drafted me and was like, you're
Speaker 3: gonna replace. This is the guy you're gonna replace. I'm
Speaker 3: just like, hey, Mike, like we be friends. He was cool.
Speaker 3: He was cool to me, but it was like it
Speaker 3: was definitely like a very hard being a rookie, like
Speaker 3: in that kind of situation, Like it was awkward as
Speaker 3: all hell. But you guys, you said a fifth round
Speaker 3: you were a first round pick and you had to
Speaker 3: split a dinner with a fifth round pick. Do you
Speaker 3: guys go to dinner in a week then split it?
Speaker 1: No? Okay, just tell us the numbers. Tell us the numbers.
Speaker 1: Paint this story, dude? Is you this podcast is your
Speaker 1: fucking canvas?
Speaker 4: Bro? I think uh, I think he Here's what I
Speaker 4: told him. I pay for the majority of everything, and
Speaker 4: he organized, so I didn't. I didn't want to do
Speaker 4: any of the organizing. So he booked the bus. I
Speaker 4: think he bought some of the alcohol, and then I
Speaker 4: pity for everything else.
Speaker 1: Do you have any stories that was the best story
Speaker 1: of the night? Hm, you have a best story of
Speaker 1: the night? Is there a big memory that fucking stands out? Nah?
Speaker 4: Dude, I mean we didn't win many ball games that season,
Speaker 4: so it's not like we were, and I think we haven't.
Speaker 4: Really we did it during the during the week or
Speaker 4: I think it was after Thanksgiving and I saw that
Speaker 4: subtle shot. So take it easy.
Speaker 1: Hey, we've all been on some losing teams. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: he not hiss drought. I mean it's drought out.
Speaker 3: There, and it's a drought out there in Detroit. Dude,
Speaker 3: it's tough. It's tough sledting. I respect the hell of it.
Speaker 3: Like my first season two and fourteen, second season three
Speaker 3: and thirteen, literally like people were celebrating when we won
Speaker 3: three games my second year.
Speaker 4: Really it's a.
Speaker 3: Tough little gig. But myoay, uh, that's a tough division too.
Speaker 4: Black and Blue. Yeah, there's some uh, there's some good football.
Speaker 4: There's some good defensive lines in that division.
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you, yeah, no question, dude. That like
Speaker 3: Packers got those like two guys that have the same
Speaker 3: last name with the Preston and Smith Bros. The Smith
Speaker 3: b Smith, There's Skins, there's Studs obviously have Max City
Speaker 3: and the other guy go Dogs. Then who else Minnesota, Everson, Griffin, Hunter,
Speaker 3: those dude like you like every single time, like you
Speaker 3: get that's six games a year, You're like, well, fuck
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 1: Those dudes on Minnesota look like fucking gladiators too, dude.
Speaker 3: I Hunter his like rookie year, his second year didn't even.
Speaker 5: Look that bait dude.
Speaker 3: And now I saw a picture like like Minnesota's calendar
Speaker 3: came out and someone retweeted it and it was just
Speaker 3: him with like seventeenth veins coiling up his bicep, and
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, this, dude, It's so weird when
Speaker 3: you see how many different body types are in the NFL.
Speaker 3: You look at an off its line and you're like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: bell cow get it done.
Speaker 4: But like Frank Sturdy, I'd say I'm a cut lean, thick,
Speaker 4: cut lean thick.
Speaker 3: I loved.
Speaker 5: I love the contradiction that.
Speaker 4: C lean thing. Taylor.
Speaker 1: Should we try to get him to do what we
Speaker 1: tried every guest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, take your shirt off. Let's see what we
Speaker 3: got going on here. This guy's und stand. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: you got you got your firm he got.
Speaker 4: God, Well, then you go like below that and then
Speaker 4: you gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: You got some good lighting going on. It's hitting your.
Speaker 5: Shoulder van and everything.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, dude, your autumn leaf everywhere, like
Speaker 3: even your body's autumn leaf.
Speaker 4: That's a little red. What do you do you.
Speaker 1: Know that?
Speaker 3: I think that comes with the territory of being autumn leaf.
Speaker 1: Hey, congratulate the first one who's actually taking their shirt off.
Speaker 3: Joe Staley wouldn't do it. Who else would do it?
Speaker 3: Chris Long would do it? And you think Chris Long
Speaker 3: would be like Chris Long's body, I'd be like, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't even be wearing a.
Speaker 4: Shirt right now.
Speaker 1: And you're retired.
Speaker 4: You grow that.
Speaker 3: You should grow that hair out.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
Speaker 4: Are tough? Tough? Look I've been keeping the hat on.
Speaker 4: It's bad. Don't cut your own hair during quarantine.
Speaker 3: No, I haven't cut my hair in a while. These little,
Speaker 3: these little feathers in the back here, dude, I worked
Speaker 3: out this morning at six a m.
Speaker 5: Had a run.
Speaker 3: At eight a m. Had meetings and put my daughter down.
Speaker 3: Have not showered yet. I'm disgusting, dude.
Speaker 1: Are you wearing Spandex two?
Speaker 3: Are you wearing shorts like they're Nike shorts but they
Speaker 3: like have like you know when you wear like swim
Speaker 3: suits and have their own little web blue area.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got that.
Speaker 1: That's all you're fucking wearing.
Speaker 3: That's all I got.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're disgusting, dude.
Speaker 3: I'm disgusting.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: When I'm wearing Spandex and I start sitting down, you
Speaker 1: you know, I can kind of get that aura and
Speaker 1: you're just like, I need.
Speaker 4: To get the fuck out of here. Dude.
Speaker 3: Dude, When I sweat and I sit down and Spandex
Speaker 3: after I have sweat and the sweat dryes, I have
Speaker 3: the itchiest ass ever. Do you ever get that? Or
Speaker 3: am I soul? Am I all by myself right now?
Speaker 3: I'm all by myself. I am sitting in a canoe
Speaker 3: by myself in the middle of Now.
Speaker 1: How about this? Is it? Is it a cheek that
Speaker 1: really gets really itchy? Yeah?
Speaker 3: It's not the hole. The holes when you don't wipe
Speaker 3: it off that's that's clear cut done. It's the cheek.
Speaker 1: Out there like a dog scooting on the ground in
Speaker 1: that hole.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Like David Lee's dogged this past Saturday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yo, uh Frank, do you know a mirror Abdullah?
Speaker 1: Was he there when you got there?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I was there my rookie year.
Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, oh awesome, dude. A Mere's fucking all time dude.
Speaker 1: But he fucking always talked about Detroit and living out
Speaker 1: in Detroit and just how grimy it was. What's it
Speaker 1: like living out in Detroit? How shitty and grimy it was.
Speaker 3: In his head? He's like, man, I really don't like
Speaker 3: Detroit that much, but I can't say nothing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm an outdoorsman. I'm a fisherman.
Speaker 3: So the city is perfect.
Speaker 4: In Michigan, is like, and so I live in Minnesota
Speaker 4: and then I and then Michigan. For Detroit, that's like
Speaker 4: living the outdoorsman's paradise. So I love it. Like there's
Speaker 4: some unreal fishing in Michigan. So I love it.
Speaker 1: Where we go, we got some Detroit love.
Speaker 3: We got a little bit of Detroit love.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 3: That's epic. You were so you you you you fancy
Speaker 3: yourself a hunter?
Speaker 4: Huh oh, fisherman hunter. Grizzly Man Outdoors boys, Hey.
Speaker 3: This was perfect. It's his, it's his, it's your company.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's his YouTube. He has a YouTube channel call
Speaker 1: what is it?
Speaker 4: Grizzly Man Outdoors.
Speaker 1: Grizzly Man Outdoors. I was actually watching a couple of
Speaker 1: his videos everything.
Speaker 5: I like everything, but tell the story which.
Speaker 4: One we talk about?
Speaker 1: Grizzly Man Outdoors dude.
Speaker 4: So, I've always been a fisherman. My brother, my dad,
Speaker 4: we kind of all have been fishing, and the goal
Speaker 4: for me growing up was always to be like make
Speaker 4: it to the NFL and then have my own fishing
Speaker 4: show with my dad and my younger brother. And actually
Speaker 4: my dad died of a sun heart attack my junior
Speaker 4: year of college. So it was kind of terrible because
Speaker 4: it was right when I was like starting to realize
Speaker 4: that I got a shot in the NFL and all
Speaker 4: that stuff. So then that's when I decided to actually
Speaker 4: take it under the take it, make it real, and
Speaker 4: launch grizzly Man out of Doors. And it's basically just
Speaker 4: me making some terrible go pro videos trying to catch fish.
Speaker 4: It's it's on the come up. I'd say five years
Speaker 4: from now, you guys are going to be talking about
Speaker 4: Grizzly Man Outdoors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're like, while we wildly underestimated that show. Uh huh, yep, exactly,
Speaker 3: but not anymore. I'm gonna subscribe to hell O of
Speaker 3: that thing.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was looking. I don't know why it'subscribe,
Speaker 1: no disrespect.
Speaker 4: I apologize your.
Speaker 3: Ghost Hey he was ghost watching you, dude.
Speaker 1: He he fell through the ice. I saw that most
Speaker 1: popular one you have, butty two thousand views. I fucking
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 4: That just shows the quality of my vis There's like
Speaker 4: three hundred, four hundred views, one seven hundred, maybe a thousand,
Speaker 4: and then the one where I don't catch any fish
Speaker 4: and I fall through the ice thirty two thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love the fucking perseverance, Like it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: Wow how many views, Like you're fucking posting away did
Speaker 1: I'm grinding?
Speaker 5: I absolutely love that.
Speaker 3: I want hunting for the first time this past weekend
Speaker 3: for Turkey, but it wasn't my first time. The first
Speaker 3: someone went hunting, I was sat in a deer stand
Speaker 3: for like six hours, saw a bunny rabbit and a butterfly,
Speaker 3: and I was like, this is.
Speaker 2: Not for me.
Speaker 3: But then I started saying, you saw what a butterfly
Speaker 3: and a flower, a butterfly and a bunny rabbit. I'm
Speaker 3: like literally holding the scope like watching the butter butterfly
Speaker 3: move around, and I'm like, he what if I just
Speaker 3: dusted this butterfly and called it a day? You know,
Speaker 3: ended up not doing it. Level of heads prevailed. I
Speaker 3: went turkey hunting, dude, and I'm honestly, I think I'm hooked.
Speaker 3: It's awesome.
Speaker 4: It's a real interactive hunt. It's cool. Did you like
Speaker 4: call him in and everything?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I didn't call I didn't do nothing.
Speaker 3: I sat there like a good little boy, like like
Speaker 3: a ten year old with his dad, and uh four
Speaker 3: time went Chattaford George. He he did the whole thing
Speaker 3: like he was sitting there.
Speaker 5: We didn't see a turkey. I like, there was like
Speaker 5: we saw a.
Speaker 3: Couple of Jake's, a couple hens. Not a tom to
Speaker 3: be seen, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: It was fun. It's the social part of it, right,
Speaker 3: the boys the night before, waking up early, That's that
Speaker 3: was the fun part.
Speaker 5: So I thought I was gonna murder a Turkey. I
Speaker 5: never got the opportunity, and next year, no.
Speaker 1: One says you got you got some merch coming out?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, dude, Hey, you got to do
Speaker 1: this right man, you're on this fucking you're on this pod.
Speaker 1: You got to promote your fucking brand. Don't be shy
Speaker 1: about boys.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, boys, I'm trying to be respectful.
Speaker 1: Don't be Oh.
Speaker 3: Day, we're all about being disrespectful on this podcast.
Speaker 4: I saw that. I saw that with the ar Kansas
Speaker 4: messed up still.
Speaker 3: Because that still got you. Huh that was like twenty
Speaker 3: minutes ago.
Speaker 4: Dude. It's like, oh wow, you're climbing in my head. Anyways,
Speaker 4: Grizzly Mon out Doors is coming out with some apparels soon.
Speaker 4: I'm not usually, I'm not like, here's the deal people,
Speaker 4: when you buy this apparel, you're not like putting money
Speaker 4: in my pocket. I'm just putting the money right back
Speaker 4: out to help help buy me some go pros and
Speaker 4: maybe make the show look a little bit better. So
Speaker 4: we're gonna launch some hasks, some T shirts, sweatshirts, nothing crazy,
Speaker 4: and get this show on the road.
Speaker 3: Can only buy so many pros, though, can only buy
Speaker 3: so many quality things. Eventually that money is gonna go
Speaker 3: in your pocket.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, you can get hopefully, hey hopefully
Speaker 1: don't say no, like, yeah, that's what you want to do?
Speaker 1: Do you what we want to do with this?
Speaker 4: Do you want?
Speaker 3: Do you want to make money in my pocket?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's got away money for free, that's all.
Speaker 1: Do you?
Speaker 4: Yeah? No doubt.
Speaker 1: On Instagram?
Speaker 4: You got Instagram at grizlyof Twitter at Team grizzly Man.
Speaker 4: What else? YouTube? YouTube is where we need help. You
Speaker 4: gotta subscribe on YouTube?
Speaker 1: He needs Oh you got ten thousand followers on Instagram.
Speaker 4: We're legit.
Speaker 1: Oh you just got fucking another one.
Speaker 4: That's self made too. Now that's like that's been grinding.
Speaker 4: Like there's some small fish and we're slowly getting the
Speaker 4: bigger and bigger fish, and you know, we're climbing.
Speaker 3: So the more followers you have, the bigger the fish
Speaker 3: you catches.
Speaker 4: That how fishing works, Yep, it reaches success. It all correlates.
Speaker 1: Jeez, how much since you've done that, how how many
Speaker 1: like different brands or people have probably reached out to
Speaker 1: you to go fish or like do anything on their
Speaker 1: farm or lake or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's sweet actually, just like with my platform in
Speaker 4: the NFL too, just being able and then they see
Speaker 4: that I'm an outdoorsman. Like there's just random fans in
Speaker 4: Michigan that will reach out and say, hey, come up
Speaker 4: to the up and catch some big lake trout and whatnot.
Speaker 4: And I've had like a I've met a bunch of
Speaker 4: people through Grizzly Man, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Have you gone to the Up?
Speaker 4: No, I haven't. I heard it's absolutely beautiful, though I heard.
Speaker 5: The same thing.
Speaker 3: I never there, I know, so when I was in
Speaker 3: I totally messed up when I was at Michigan, but
Speaker 3: I literally never left ann Arbor. I was like Ann
Speaker 3: Arbur and Ipsiloni and that was it. I go back.
Speaker 3: I do so many more things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ann Arbur's pretty sweet though, I can't blame you there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you ever go out to the bars around there?
Speaker 4: Uh? No, not really.
Speaker 3: We were, Uh what's this this dude from Iowa? What
Speaker 3: was his name? Riley Reef? Yeah, Riley Riley Reef. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he got drafted like thirteenth overall to the Lions, and
Speaker 3: Graham Glasgow like ran into him at Rick's American Cafe
Speaker 3: in in Uh. Ann Arbor and it's like super small town,
Speaker 3: Like it's just football players, Like we're the coolest guys there.
Speaker 3: And this dude's like got money, throwing, like buying shots,
Speaker 3: like doing it all. Like the way Graham tells the
Speaker 3: story is like it was the coolest thing that ever
Speaker 3: happened him. Probably still is to this day. And now
Speaker 3: he's in Denver with a fatty contract.
Speaker 4: He got paid four years forty four.
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Speaker 3: Do you ever sit there in daydream about like your
Speaker 3: next contract and like think all the GoPros you can buy?
Speaker 4: Sometimes? Yeah I can. I mean I can't deny.
Speaker 3: Well, you can't deny that, dude. Get that cheddar is
Speaker 3: a big deal. You play football your whole life, and
Speaker 3: you're like, man, this is cool, playing for free, having fun,
Speaker 3: got some boys, got a little bit of clout this way,
Speaker 3: and now you're getting that cheddar. Bro, that's big time.
Speaker 3: What was your calling whatever?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: Never picked? Were you?
Speaker 4: Oh? Twenty top twenty top twenty.
Speaker 3: That's a solid piece because your fifth year option won't
Speaker 3: be too much where they're like ever gonna think about it?
Speaker 3: What you're going You're going into your third year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so next year they're going to have to figure out
Speaker 3: whether they want to pick that up or not.
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 4: How is that how it works? It's after your third.
Speaker 3: So after your third year, going into your fourth year,
Speaker 3: they'll decide whether they want to pick up your fifth
Speaker 3: year option by.
Speaker 4: Like may cool. And then did you get extended before
Speaker 4: as you get picked up? How did you work?
Speaker 3: So I got they picked up my fifth year option
Speaker 3: going into my third I played my fourth and going
Speaker 3: into my fifth that's when I got extended.
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 3: And so like the fifth year option is guaranteed their injury,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's a good contract. I'll tell you what
Speaker 3: the best pick in the draft is the thirty third
Speaker 3: overall pick, first pick, second round because you don't have
Speaker 3: it have to deal with any of the you know,
Speaker 3: fifth year option type stuff like first round stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Is it's cool to be a first rounder, don't get
Speaker 3: me wrong, it's amazing. But like as far as like
Speaker 3: new contract, second contracts, like just strictly putting money in
Speaker 3: your pocket. The fastest route is that thirty third pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, however you can get the unrestricted free agency, yeah, Taylor,
Speaker 1: as as possible, Taylor. So they basically decided after your
Speaker 1: third year they're going to pick up your fifth year option.
Speaker 1: You played your fourth knowing that your fifth year option
Speaker 1: was picked up. So then after your fourth that's when
Speaker 1: you renegotiated for an extension. Right, did did that fifth
Speaker 1: year like conclude the first year of your contract?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So when you get extended, when when you like, someone
Speaker 3: signs an extension, it's not like like if they signed
Speaker 3: a four year extension, well, it's four years plus however
Speaker 3: many years they have left on their contract. Some guys
Speaker 3: sign up with two years left, so if it's a
Speaker 3: four extension, it's a six total, six years total, right,
Speaker 3: mm hmm. So I had one year left on my
Speaker 3: contract with a five year extension. Little long, it's a
Speaker 3: it's a little long, but I'm I do love being
Speaker 3: in Tennessee, so it's all good. You would love Tennessee, dude,
Speaker 3: you're an outdoorsman. You would absolutely love this.
Speaker 1: Broh. He looks like he's in Tennessee right now.
Speaker 2: He does.
Speaker 3: Now that the back of the My dad's from me
Speaker 3: Din in Minnesota, and I went to his like his
Speaker 3: childhood spots, and I feel like the BA, like you
Speaker 3: might be in his house right now. That's so Minnesota
Speaker 3: back there. He's got he went to an high he
Speaker 3: went to the U.
Speaker 4: Has he ever been referred to as a cake eater?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he has, son of a pitch dad fucking
Speaker 3: cake eater. Dude, that's bullshow.
Speaker 1: What's what's it like? Uh so you were there when
Speaker 1: you they transition to coach Patricia, right, what's it been
Speaker 1: like playing for coach Patricia?
Speaker 4: He's uh, he's old school. He's old school, and he's
Speaker 4: like a football junkie like Liz Breeze.
Speaker 1: Seems like that mustache.
Speaker 4: Loves ball, loves ball, and I mean that's kind of
Speaker 4: like my game really is just kind of tough, old
Speaker 4: school football. I'm not like some crazy, freaky athletic player.
Speaker 4: I'm not like some finesse, amazing past pro guy. I'm
Speaker 4: kind of just like a bruiser, kind of just play hard,
Speaker 4: kind of tough player. And that's I like that. I
Speaker 4: like his I like his approach to the game. I
Speaker 4: think football is an old school sport. It's a physical
Speaker 4: violence sport and that's how he approaches it. So I
Speaker 4: really enjoyed playing for him.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Who who would you say you you look
Speaker 1: at around the league and want to kind of mimic
Speaker 1: your game after Who do you watch the most?
Speaker 4: I watched Jason Kelsey. He's a little smaller, like, more
Speaker 4: athletic than me, but he's He's just a good player
Speaker 4: to watch technique wise, he uses so many different things.
Speaker 4: I watched Travis Frederick a lot before he retired. I
Speaker 4: watched Eric Wood a lot. He's retired obviously now, but
Speaker 4: he was a good player and he's kind of the
Speaker 4: same size as me.
Speaker 3: So we'll get them curly cues. Do you are you
Speaker 3: playing center?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 5: You're playing guard? Still center? So yeah, you're back in
Speaker 5: that zone for sure.
Speaker 4: Center. Yeah ticks me back to center my year?
Speaker 3: Who like? So, who do you think you're most like
Speaker 3: in the league?
Speaker 4: Most like? I don't know. Frank.
Speaker 1: If you wrote an article on yourself and it was Frank,
Speaker 1: that was a solid joke, dude. If you wrote an
Speaker 1: article on yourself and it was comparaive, comparable, or comparison,
Speaker 1: who would it be?
Speaker 4: I can't even tell you, man, I don't I think
Speaker 4: I'm pretty unique?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I like that?
Speaker 4: Okay, I played hard, nothing flashy, Like I'm not. I'm
Speaker 4: not pretty, but I get the job done. So someone
Speaker 4: like that, you.
Speaker 3: Want to stay in Detroit for your whole career or what?
Speaker 4: I have no idea, dude. I love the city, I
Speaker 4: love the people, love the coaches, love Lake Saint Clair.
Speaker 4: You ever hear of Lake Saint Clair? Oh? One of
Speaker 4: the best fisheries in the world. So really, yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Do what state? What state has the best fishing?
Speaker 4: Minnesota?
Speaker 3: Minnesota, the land of ten thousand Lakes?
Speaker 4: Ten thousand Lakes.
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, Like I don't fucking know everything.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, have you ever been up north? You guys
Speaker 4: got to now take the Boys, take the Boys podcast,
Speaker 4: download some like five g LTE or something, and do
Speaker 4: a couple of podcasts up in the boundary waters. That
Speaker 4: will get you some more subscribers and stuff. Unreal. I'll
Speaker 4: tell you.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Taylor and I need to look
Speaker 1: at doing like outdooring with the Boys something like that.
Speaker 1: Maybe you maybe get some talent, find some talent who
Speaker 1: could probably take that thing off the ground, dude.
Speaker 4: Camping with the Boys, camping with the boys bad. You're welcome.
Speaker 1: Let's get Frank out. Maybe it's Frank. We put Frank
Speaker 1: up there in the tent and get somebody to just
Speaker 1: film him all the time, and we just fucking make
Speaker 1: more content.
Speaker 3: Anything for content, Frank, anything for you should do. You
Speaker 3: should honestly do a podcast. Why not. You have a
Speaker 3: you have a YouTube channel, you do it all. Yeah,
Speaker 3: merch already you're two thirds of the way there.
Speaker 4: You're right, that's probably next. I mean, let's be honest,
Speaker 4: that's the unforeseen future. But I don't even know what
Speaker 4: I would say, Like, what's up? I'm Frank right now.
Speaker 4: I play football and I like to fish. I live
Speaker 4: in my mom's basement. How's it going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking about all your stories, man, all your hunting
Speaker 1: and fishing story.
Speaker 3: That was that was your bio just now you just
Speaker 3: crushed it.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's true. Dang, you get you guys are building
Speaker 4: me up. I appreciate this.
Speaker 3: That's what we started. See, we started off breaking you down,
Speaker 3: came out you're real fast. Yeah, right, seven seven shapes
Speaker 3: of smoke or seven layers of smoke.
Speaker 5: Now we're here.
Speaker 3: Now we're working as a group. I'll tell you what
Speaker 3: you can tell people you know, I'm a I'm a
Speaker 3: hard working football player. I you know, what you see
Speaker 3: is what you get. But I also watched Travis uh
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey, which does not Travis Kelsey. Who's who's the
Speaker 3: other side of Jason Kelsey. I watched Jason Kelsey, which
Speaker 3: makes zero sense because that guy's actually really flashy, flashy
Speaker 3: and finesse. I'm kind of like I'm I'm old school.
Speaker 3: I'm old school guy. But you can't compare me to
Speaker 3: anybody because I'm Frank. But I'm old school. I do
Speaker 3: everything the way the old guys did it. But don't
Speaker 3: compare me to anybody. I'm Frank. I'm just Frank. It's
Speaker 3: just I'm just Frank. Here's a bunch of things about
Speaker 3: me comparable to other people, but I'm just Frank said
Speaker 3: right in that wave right now, dude, you're you're one
Speaker 3: of the boys. Man where I'm actually stoked to.
Speaker 4: Have you on. Dude, I appreciate it. I didn't know
Speaker 4: you guys even knew who I was, so this is cool.
Speaker 3: First, you know who you were.
Speaker 1: Did you know what busting was?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I knew. I knew what busting was.
Speaker 1: Let's go Taylor, Hey don't. Yeah, will So, dude, sometimes
Speaker 1: like I might get a ship, Dude, we're like super awesome. Hey,
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll get excit ad about somebody knowing something and
Speaker 1: Taylor will be quick to just humble me in a second, Dude,
Speaker 1: like we're not that sweet dude.
Speaker 3: Will okay, So, but yeah probably not. Hey, just Frank.
Speaker 3: The thing about will Is is he has a weird
Speaker 3: like like it's sexual to him. Like he loves he
Speaker 3: loves he loves it when people are like, hey, will you,
Speaker 3: you're a piece of ship will and literally Will like
Speaker 3: takes he takes the energy and he's like I'll insult
Speaker 3: him up and he'll like save it for the podcast.
Speaker 3: Just save it for the podcast.
Speaker 1: Just save it for the podcast.
Speaker 3: Those who the bathroom comes back super relaxed them You will,
Speaker 3: you need to have a comment on it because you're
Speaker 3: gonna have a podcast soon.
Speaker 4: Well not seeing we're gonna We're gonna gotta build.
Speaker 1: We gotta build the YouTube. We gotta get the numbers up,
Speaker 1: Get the numbers up, Get everybody go subscribe to Frank
Speaker 1: the Tanks YouTube.
Speaker 3: Man Outdoors, gristly Man Outdoors.
Speaker 1: You know I got a fun segment I thought of
Speaker 1: a fun segment. We can figure out since uh Rave
Speaker 1: and Patricia's from the Belichick tree, what they have in
Speaker 1: common with their with coaching styles, Like do you guys
Speaker 1: have your like you know, the hardcore urine urine laminated
Speaker 1: photos all over the all over the building. It says,
Speaker 1: if you're too low, like you're just disrespecting the team.
Speaker 4: We've got that.
Speaker 3: We have that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never every time you piss, it's like right
Speaker 1: in front of your face and you just sit there
Speaker 1: and read them and you're just like, god, if you
Speaker 1: if it's gold, you're like, I'm a selfish, bad teammate, dude,
Speaker 1: you better start drinking your water. That's awesome.
Speaker 4: That gets to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. And then when it's clear, you're like, oh, coach,
Speaker 1: coach Rabe will be so proud of me. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm so hydrated. Sorry, I was gonna do the next
Speaker 1: one does in meetings like if it's media, is it
Speaker 1: speak for yourself? Don't talk about anything else other than
Speaker 1: speak for yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like, isn't that like.
Speaker 1: A I mean yeah, it probably is, but I feel
Speaker 1: like it's preached more like Rave really preached it in
Speaker 1: your head in our head. Like I sat there kind
Speaker 1: of like fucking brainwashed, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck fuck anybody else.
Speaker 1: Just they ask you about somebody else's play, you don't
Speaker 1: refer their play. You talk about a team or edit,
Speaker 1: and you just bring it back to yourself like that's him.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 1: I was trying to find common ouities between coaches.
Speaker 5: I'm not yea super fun segment. I think we're on
Speaker 5: a roll. Every watched onto something here.
Speaker 3: We should keep it going.
Speaker 1: This is this is a great segment. Honestly, That's all
Speaker 1: I had after that, really too, and I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe Taylor will get on board and thinking more for.
Speaker 3: Me brainstormed, brainstorm before went that win in that one.
Speaker 1: Blind, I know, I thought it'd be exciting because I
Speaker 1: thought you would buy in.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know, really know any of those things except
Speaker 3: for like he's he's could he really mean?
Speaker 5: Sometimes it hurts your feelings a lot.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 4: Think about the podcast he's been on it, dude it
Speaker 4: he likes it. Oh yeah, I saw that you talked
Speaker 4: about cutting off his piece.
Speaker 3: Would you cut off your penis for a Super Bowl?
Speaker 4: I'll have to get back to you on that.
Speaker 3: No, there's no get around you've been around it your
Speaker 3: whole life.
Speaker 4: I can pull that card.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I think I need my piece, man.
Speaker 3: No question, I've already sad.
Speaker 1: The answer is.
Speaker 3: Cut off my penis for a super Bowl?
Speaker 4: I believe, Yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: What would you do for a Super Bowl?
Speaker 4: I do a lot?
Speaker 1: Would you? Would you? Would you? Would you sever a finger?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Like I get, I'd get rid of the pinky
Speaker 4: for it?
Speaker 1: Wait what about index finger?
Speaker 3: That little right one, that right pinky right there that
Speaker 3: looks like it's got six knuckles?
Speaker 1: Would I would sever that too?
Speaker 3: They cut them things off for free, dude, I'll take
Speaker 3: a preseason win for one of those. Jesus Christ boy
Speaker 3: out here dying broth? How many times? How many? How
Speaker 3: many fingers have you broken?
Speaker 1: I don't know all of them.
Speaker 4: I've had more dislocations than breaks. Jesus Christ, what about you?
Speaker 4: You've probably had quite a few.
Speaker 3: Huh No, dude, because I got I mean, I break
Speaker 3: my I've broken all of them before. But like I
Speaker 3: have these big meat fine, yeah I know. But if
Speaker 3: you listen, will and you've interrupted me seven times this podcast,
Speaker 3: I have these big meaty mits here, but these little
Speaker 3: tiny sausage fingers. They're like little, tiny little guys. They
Speaker 3: don't only get caught up in much. I have that
Speaker 3: little knuckle, little knuckles a little fuck. Other than that, dude,
Speaker 3: I don't got them pinkies like that though, Dude, this
Speaker 3: thing's probably didn't work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they when it gets called out there, they're a
Speaker 4: little tough about kicks in, but otherwise they're fine.
Speaker 3: Jesus, did you got arthritis already going into your three Yeah?
Speaker 4: I just turned twenty four a few days ago. It's downhill.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, you've been in the league three years in
Speaker 1: twenty four.
Speaker 5: That's a killer. That's a big win.
Speaker 4: Well, that's big.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, the young like, if I could do it again,
Speaker 3: and I hope Michigan fans are listening right now, if
Speaker 3: I could do it again, I would leave as a
Speaker 3: regchord sophomore. Could you be in that thing at like twenty?
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 4: Were you good enough too? No?
Speaker 3: I was like, I probably would have been like may
Speaker 3: maybe a late round draft pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're yeah, but you could have left your junior year.
Speaker 5: I could have left my junior year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably would got drafted higher if I left
Speaker 3: my junior year. Would you if you go back. Would
Speaker 3: you leave your junior year the tough question, Yes, because
Speaker 3: I know what the result would have been, which would
Speaker 3: have would have been like an average at best season
Speaker 3: and getting her asses kicked in the Buffalo Wildings Bowl
Speaker 3: to Kansas State. So yes, Michigan's tight. Though, like missions,
Speaker 3: if I would have done Michigan differently, maybe maybe I
Speaker 3: wouldn't have left. Maybe I still would have stayed, but
Speaker 3: I probably would have left. I would have left. If
Speaker 3: someone said, do you want to do it again, I'd say, yes,
Speaker 3: I do it again. I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 5: Early as possible.
Speaker 1: I needed all five of my years.
Speaker 3: Dude, I know you could. I know you did.
Speaker 4: That's okay too, There's nothing wrong with that. Both pastwork,
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 1: But anybody who gets to come in at twenty one
Speaker 1: in the league at twenty one, like good head on
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Speaker 3: That's a big win. When when did you when did
Speaker 3: you think to yourself, I can I can I can
Speaker 3: do this? I can go to the NFL.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, probably after my sophomore year of college.
Speaker 4: I could have left after my junior year too.
Speaker 3: Why didn't you leave?
Speaker 4: Well? That was that was when my dad passed. So
Speaker 4: it was like I was an emotional wreck. So then
Speaker 4: that so he passed in October and then you know,
Speaker 4: I had to make that decision like two months later,
Speaker 4: and I was it was terrible, but I decided I
Speaker 4: wasn't ready that.
Speaker 3: He passed away in October suddenly too. That's that's gotta
Speaker 3: be so tough, dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, it happened. And then I had to play
Speaker 4: Alabama four days later. That wasn't fun.
Speaker 3: Uh you played?
Speaker 4: Fuck man?
Speaker 3: Do you guys wain.
Speaker 1: Alabama? Didn't?
Speaker 3: I know? I knew the answer.
Speaker 2: I knew the answer.
Speaker 5: Putting in the wound.
Speaker 3: That's tough, dude. Will Do you have any brothers and sisters?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I got a brother and three sisters.
Speaker 5: How did they handle the situation?
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's still like, uh, I mean, it's
Speaker 4: only been three and a half years and it's still terrible.
Speaker 4: We all rallied together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, that's tough. I'm sorry to hear that many.
Speaker 4: But the Boys podcast down.
Speaker 3: We know, we go up, dude. We're like, we're like drugs, dude,
Speaker 3: We'll be high and low all the time. So it's
Speaker 3: all good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we like, Uh, you got to get into the
Speaker 1: stories of what made these dudes man, no question. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know. I'm sure you you probably you
Speaker 1: went through a shitload to I mean, you've had to
Speaker 1: overcome all of that shit still trying to play football
Speaker 1: with your dad suddenly passing. I mean, I couldn't even
Speaker 1: fucking imagine, right, I could not imagine my dad suddenly
Speaker 1: passing away in the middle of my was it your
Speaker 1: sophomore year in October junior year? I really couldn't imagine,
Speaker 1: and then trying to play football four days after, and
Speaker 1: then finishing out the year and trying to make decisions
Speaker 1: and probably I'm sure your dad was probably involved in
Speaker 1: your life where you're kind of making decisions with him
Speaker 1: if you want to, you know, this outdoor show, he.
Speaker 4: Was the decision guy. So but I mean, but then
Speaker 4: there's like football kind of is like a grieving process too, man,
Speaker 4: Like it just lets you forget about everything and just
Speaker 4: go play ball. So that was a blessing in disguise.
Speaker 4: I guess too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely unless you let let all those emotions out
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you think knowing you're dead?
Speaker 3: And I didn't know oppositely to know him, but like,
Speaker 3: do you think he would have wanted you to leave
Speaker 3: or wanted you to stay? Do you think that play
Speaker 3: probably played in?
Speaker 4: I think he would have wanted me to leave? Oh?
Speaker 4: Really really he was like, like he would tell me
Speaker 4: growing up, I'm gonna keep putting these pieces in the oven.
Speaker 4: You're gonna buy me a helicopter and when you make
Speaker 4: it to the lead, like that's just that's what his
Speaker 4: mindset was.
Speaker 3: What he said request, Yeah, you know I like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he was probably like and like so like
Speaker 4: you know how like agents will start reaching out to
Speaker 4: you when you're younger and whatnot, and I I just
Speaker 4: prefer them all to him. And he would get so
Speaker 4: hyped just to talk to him. So he probably would
Speaker 4: have said, go no ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah did you think about that at all when you
Speaker 3: made the decision to stay?
Speaker 4: It was horrible. I went back and forth literally every day,
Speaker 4: and then really then you know, like coaches will say
Speaker 4: one thing, you got, agents saying one thing you got
Speaker 4: everybody tugging at you. So it's a tough decision. I
Speaker 4: don't think people realize.
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, did you did you send in like your
Speaker 3: review or whatever into the NFL and what what did
Speaker 3: your paper come back?
Speaker 4: As? I think it was like there's like seven grades.
Speaker 4: I think majority of them were two to three, two
Speaker 4: to three, two to three, and then but there was
Speaker 4: one that said six to seven. Oh really, And then
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to nowhere broke.
Speaker 3: Like at that six to seven, like the he could
Speaker 3: have just left that one out.
Speaker 4: I just try to get in my head and it works. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it worked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are coaches telling you stuff, like my coaches
Speaker 3: when I was when I was going through the process,
Speaker 3: Brady Hoke, he was.
Speaker 5: Like, you shouldn't go. You're not mature enough.
Speaker 4: Yet mm hmm.
Speaker 3: And and yeah, I tell you what, I drink that
Speaker 3: kool aid. I was. I was like, yeah, he's right,
Speaker 3: cut them out here every weekend.
Speaker 4: Yeah rat shoot, yeah, I mean I had it. Was
Speaker 4: coach Brett Bilma, and he was like he was he's
Speaker 4: the man, like uh he was, he was. He's been
Speaker 4: big time there for me since my dad passed. So
Speaker 4: he was he like thought I should stay but it wasn't.
Speaker 4: I don't think it was because of anything to do
Speaker 4: with like my play or football. I think it was
Speaker 4: more like emotional like grieving and everything like that. So
Speaker 4: I think he was actually, like legit looking at it
Speaker 4: from like a care about me, not about his football team,
Speaker 4: not about anything else, but just like caring about me
Speaker 4: as a person. So I tell you that.
Speaker 3: I wonder for a head coach ever told somebody, hey,
Speaker 3: you should leave this college that I'm coaching at and
Speaker 3: go to the NFL.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: a junior quarter like a junior quarterback who's projected to
Speaker 4: be a first round pick, how do you tell the
Speaker 4: guy to come back?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do what you can to
Speaker 1: manipulate the come back.
Speaker 4: I guess, Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure because if you, as a head coach,
Speaker 1: might have an extension on the way or some bonus
Speaker 1: or some some incentive in there, and you think in
Speaker 1: your head like I need this motherfucker so I can
Speaker 1: hit my thing. Like you know, you you try to
Speaker 1: finagle that situation as much.
Speaker 3: That's what that's what you learned to, especially in the
Speaker 3: football world, people are so selfish like people everyone's just
Speaker 3: trying to get theirs, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 3: they don't really care, like too much about your passengers. Now,
Speaker 3: your relationship with your coach is your relationship. And it's
Speaker 3: just like I don't know the idea of like you like, hey,
Speaker 3: this is a spot you're comfortable with, You're in a
Speaker 3: comfort zone like you need, like if you're grieving your father,
Speaker 3: like obviously that's a that's a great way to come back.
Speaker 3: But if you would have got hurt, then what you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, did get hurt, then that's it.
Speaker 3: Well you got hurt, Like what kind of hurt?
Speaker 4: I played five games my senior year that I tore
Speaker 4: everything in my ankle.
Speaker 1: Really, ship, did you get that insurance?
Speaker 4: Then I'm sitting there, No, I didn't. I didn't because
Speaker 4: I still went first round, So I didn't get the
Speaker 4: because you know it kicks in like after picks, you
Speaker 4: know you fall. I didn't really fall, so I got lucky. Damn.
Speaker 3: So you probably could have got a first round put
Speaker 3: the year before. Really, yeah, liked should have left. Who's
Speaker 3: your agent?
Speaker 4: First?
Speaker 3: Athletes first? That's like a second or third best agency.
Speaker 3: It's pretty solid.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, who's your agency?
Speaker 3: That's Creative Artist Agency. It's the biggest agency in the world.
Speaker 4: Oh I've never heard of him.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, well they're solid. Tom Condon twenty five most
Speaker 3: powerful agents in the world regardless of category.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I've heard of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've heard of him. Sports and so who sports?
Speaker 1: Neil Cornrich?
Speaker 4: Oh dude, Neil. I almost went with Neil Man.
Speaker 1: Hey, Neil's a fucking boss. He just not loud. He
Speaker 1: just doesn't have a huge marketing like he's just a boss,
Speaker 1: like lawyer, negotiator, genius.
Speaker 4: He seems like he's very, very intelligent. My mom almost
Speaker 4: went with him. My mom loved Neil because because he's
Speaker 4: like he's deeling most guy.
Speaker 1: And he's like yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And he like who else does he have?
Speaker 1: Like Kirk Farents, Bill Belichick, Bo Polini, Kirk Farens, like
Speaker 1: he had Bo. And that's how I got with him,
Speaker 1: because he had Bo Polini.
Speaker 4: That's how he almost got me. But I I just
Speaker 4: wasn't wasn't connecting. But he's a great dude, Like he's
Speaker 4: still dude. He still will email my mom articles about me.
Speaker 1: Yes, bro, he emails my younger brother, who is a wrestler.
Speaker 1: He emails him like wrestling articles.
Speaker 4: That's that shows how good a guy he is. He's
Speaker 4: a good dude.
Speaker 1: Hey see, Taylor, you can't sleep on the small you
Speaker 1: can't sleep on them small ones, the little, subtle quiet ones.
Speaker 3: No question, I don't disagree. If he's a great agent.
Speaker 1: You guys, I.
Speaker 3: Think that's awesome. You know you know Tom Condon wants
Speaker 3: to represent you? Though, Did Tom recruit.
Speaker 4: You at all? No names?
Speaker 1: You're talking to me?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, well I think.
Speaker 2: He never me.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: You will man or break hotel. But go ahead.
Speaker 4: What's that Maybe some of the other guys over there.
Speaker 3: Pat Collins, Uh, Tom Condon, Tommy Condon, Jimmy Sexton.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was Pat calling Jimmy Sexton. And then there's
Speaker 4: one other guy.
Speaker 5: Pat Collins.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: He's like my day to day dude.
Speaker 3: He's epic. That dude's he's gonna be.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He was a senior at Michigan when I was a freshman.
Speaker 3: We played together.
Speaker 4: Oh that's sweet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And dude, he's like one of the nicest, most organized,
Speaker 3: work his ass off for you. We'll sit on the
Speaker 3: phone with you for hours and explain stuff like when
Speaker 3: I was going through my contract negotiating stuff, it's so
Speaker 3: frustrating because you're like, you know, I think I thought
Speaker 3: the team wanted me.
Speaker 5: Why aren't they?
Speaker 3: You know, you have all these questions like why aren't
Speaker 3: they paying me? Why aren't they like coming up? Why
Speaker 3: would they start that contract number? Why would all these
Speaker 3: different like whys? And Pat would stay on the phone
Speaker 3: with me for hours, dude, just listen to everything. He
Speaker 3: makes you feel like you're the only person he's ever like,
Speaker 3: got to work for Pat's all time, dude.
Speaker 4: You get like the big agency and you feel like
Speaker 4: you've got the small aspect.
Speaker 3: I think A does an amazing job of making you
Speaker 3: feel like there's really not anybody else to be like
Speaker 3: that is overshadowing you.
Speaker 5: It's not like a Drew Rosenhaus, you know.
Speaker 4: Sort of that.
Speaker 1: So that's a good that's a good example.
Speaker 4: Athletes versus great as well. Go ahead plugging sports.
Speaker 3: Everybody like they got so many athletes? Do you feel
Speaker 3: do you feel like you have one?
Speaker 5: Like you're the.
Speaker 4: Only guy c A has like everybody Listen, Frank, I
Speaker 4: like you like.
Speaker 3: You, Frank but I don't want to have to like
Speaker 3: sit here and say, hey, go ahead and look up
Speaker 3: the next the last three draft classes and.
Speaker 4: How are athletes first might have dominated this last draft, dude.
Speaker 3: They dominated the numbers and there's no question about it.
Speaker 3: But goes after, goes after a finite amount of guys
Speaker 3: that their quality, that they want to represent, that they
Speaker 3: know that these dudes are going to be successful in
Speaker 3: the lead these statistically pat c A.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, you need to clip that and use it.
Speaker 1: You need to use that for your guys' fucking video
Speaker 1: because Taylor sells the ship out of you boys.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, man, issues, Man, there's a CIA is
Speaker 3: by far, by far, it's not even it's not even close.
Speaker 3: I'm looking, well, you're biased, You're you're biased. Maybe maybe
Speaker 3: could be, I couldn't sure, but also like, what.
Speaker 1: Do you mean you could be?
Speaker 4: You're a thousand percent bias.
Speaker 1: Here's your bias.
Speaker 3: Any lots of agencies will promise you. They'll promise you
Speaker 3: the moon, the promise you the stars, will say, oh,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be this, You're gonna be that, You're gonna
Speaker 3: be the greatest thing ever. For these reasons, is wants
Speaker 3: to sell you on what they can do for you.
Speaker 3: But everything they say they can do for you, they
Speaker 3: will actually do for you. They will actually help promote you,
Speaker 3: they will actually help and look for sponsorship opportunities. And
Speaker 3: they'll be honest with you too. They'll say, hey, listen,
Speaker 3: you're a white guy from Michigan, Taylor, and you're an
Speaker 3: offensive lineman.
Speaker 4: Not a lot.
Speaker 3: There's not a lot we can do for you right
Speaker 3: now uphill battle, you.
Speaker 1: Know, hang on now. Then we have Derek Morgan on
Speaker 1: a first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did, and I really disagreed with what Derek said. However,
Speaker 3: he was our guest and I was just trying to
Speaker 3: be nice. If I were to have therek on this podcast,
Speaker 3: I would I would probably argue it at this point
Speaker 3: because you know, Derek was doing to sting. He's you know,
Speaker 3: I am happy for him. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: like I don't know, like like like Drew Rosenhaus for instance,
Speaker 3: why would you go with him? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Guys like that who has an obvious an obvious reputation
Speaker 3: of just being a scum lord.
Speaker 1: That that is what gets me too. I just don't understand, Like,
Speaker 1: and I don't know him. He might be a great dude,
Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, he has such a reputation
Speaker 1: right that I don't see how he keeps getting these
Speaker 1: fucking dudes, right.
Speaker 3: No, he gets, he gets, he gets guys. But he
Speaker 3: does a good job. He does a good job of
Speaker 3: selling people. And I talked to my agent and he's like,
Speaker 3: here's what he does, and he basically like lays down,
Speaker 3: like these are the steps he takes, you know, just
Speaker 3: kind of a slap. But I do think he is
Speaker 3: the best agency. They've historically had the best contracts.
Speaker 4: They're great.
Speaker 3: I'm sure athletes Fir's great and sports, see sports, don't
Speaker 3: sleep on them. They're they're phenomenal to shoutout and see
Speaker 3: sports shoutout athletes.
Speaker 2: First.
Speaker 4: We're all highly favored over.
Speaker 3: Here, I know, highly blessed and highly favored. What a cliche, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: ally blessing. I mean, you know what else would you perspect?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what I would say.
Speaker 5: I got nothing.
Speaker 1: Boys, when you're hanging with the wife and bean and
Speaker 1: having a great time, just having one of those moments
Speaker 1: thinking yourself, yo, I'm highly blessed and highly favored.
Speaker 5: Never actually thought that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you will. Now i'd say, like I'm thriving.
Speaker 4: I like that one a little more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to that's that sounds like a wind
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I I just caught poor fish in a row,
Speaker 4: forecasting row.
Speaker 5: I'm thriving forecast in a row. You've done that before?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. You love fishing, dude, Dude, see all
Speaker 4: those fishing poles.
Speaker 5: So Minnesota, would you say, why would you Why do
Speaker 5: you think?
Speaker 3: Why do you think he dined as cake eaters? See
Speaker 3: see al we circled back to that because Wiles interrupted
Speaker 3: time was curious.
Speaker 4: If you apologize, it's just kind of known that people.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to go out of your
Speaker 4: dad here. I don't want to go for it.
Speaker 5: Do you take shots throw handmakers? That will not bother
Speaker 5: me one bit?
Speaker 3: He you know what? He listens to these podcasts too.
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Well, here's here's what's heard that. Uh, people
Speaker 4: are privileged cake eaters.
Speaker 5: Yes, and I think it's smart.
Speaker 3: Frank, I think it's very smart to generalize a complete population.
Speaker 3: I think that's worked in everybody's favor for the like,
Speaker 3: for the lifetime of people.
Speaker 4: Dude. It's a. It's a friendly high school thing. Relaxed.
Speaker 3: Frank, you were you were awesome in this podcast. Did
Speaker 3: you do the great job. I'm proud of you.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Guys, you'll want a real note, Dude, your dad would
Speaker 1: be super fucking proud.
Speaker 3: Of you, no question.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: You seem like a really good.
Speaker 1: So Hey before we got to get off, though, Frank,
Speaker 1: I'll might butcher this, but I'm, you know, giving the
Speaker 1: boy a shout out. You help it out and clean
Speaker 1: it up. Frank has teamed up with the United Way
Speaker 1: and local United Way in hashtag Stay Home, Stay Strong
Speaker 1: initiative to raise money for COVID nineteen Lions fans. So
Speaker 1: if you're a Lions fan listen up or any fans really,
Speaker 1: but mainly Lions fans, you can donate to the cause.
Speaker 1: And when a virtual fishing hangout with Frank, the tank
Speaker 1: linked to donations we will put in our show notes. Frank,
Speaker 1: what is that fishing trip going to be about?
Speaker 4: Dude, nailed it. Nailed it, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I got to figure that out, but I'm I'm probably
Speaker 4: just gonna be fishing, and usually fishing solo. Sometimes I'll
Speaker 4: bring my fiance or fund. Sometimes i'll bring my brother,
Speaker 4: but usually I'm solo. So it'll be great to have
Speaker 4: some company and see if we can catch a mango
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna film and everything?
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, I'll have the go pros all over.
Speaker 1: You know. Keep that up, bro, that's it's gonna grow.
Speaker 4: Dude, watched the last episode. The last episode was low
Speaker 4: key of fire at it, and I think I'm I
Speaker 4: think I'm on the come up.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll watch it. I'll fucking post it too, dude.
Speaker 1: We got We're for the boys.
Speaker 4: Man, this is huge for me. I'm low key, like
Speaker 4: super excited right now.
Speaker 3: You're on the squad happy about that.
Speaker 1: I know, I know he's like fired up the squad, dude,
Speaker 1: thanking this one.
Speaker 3: You've done it, dude, we've all done it together now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look it up.
Speaker 3: Thought huh not me? All right, brother, We appreciate it,
Speaker 3: man
Speaker 4: Yeah, Frank, thanks bro, Yeah, thanks guys, thanks for having me.