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Speaker 5: UFC two ninety four Mikashav Versus Volkanovski two is in

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Speaker 5: into the opening round. Myriad layers of this fight, of

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Speaker 5: the lead up to it can flow. But Islami Kashev

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Speaker 1: After that performance, he may just be the best pound

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Speaker 1: I did not see it ending like this. Mahashev continues

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Speaker 1: He has proven that time and time again. This time

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Speaker 5: What a fighter so Kane Velaskaz said in the lead

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Speaker 5: But this is an outstanding fighter in all realms of

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Speaker 5: We'll get to the whole Volkanovsky side of things here.

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Speaker 5: But Islama Kashev is one of the greatest lightweights of

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Speaker 5: not your guy, but Islami Kashev is well on his way,

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Speaker 1: And I think that he's most likely underrated because he

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Speaker 5: He has the greatest striking defense statistically in UFC history

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Speaker 1: And saying that at one hundred and fifty five pounds

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Speaker 1: know they're doing something differently, John, It's working. The Nimroga

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Speaker 1: Beating someone like Bolkanovski, even though he's a lighter weight class,

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Speaker 1: It seemed like he was completely unfazed by the switch

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Speaker 5: Thirteen consecutive wins, Cody, is that right for Islami Kashev

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Speaker 5: longest active winning streak in the UFC and it makes

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Speaker 5: history to have a winning streak of that length. Absolutely

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Speaker 5: incredible what Islama Kashev has accomplished. And I do believe

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Speaker 5: in terms of this matchup and Mikashev is very much

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Speaker 5: but it can certainly be anyone anywhere right in terms

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Speaker 5: I think this is really going to give him a

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Speaker 5: I don't think that Islami Kashev would have been phased,

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Speaker 5: but I think Mikashev's appetite was the biggest for this

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that one thing that could potentially plague

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Speaker 1: a little bit too much, but that that's that balance

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Speaker 1: of having that great fighter mindset, that champion mindset of

432
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Speaker 1: going I'm going to take this opportunity. I'm going to

433
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Speaker 1: try to write a superhero story by taking this opportunity.

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Speaker 1: And if he did, we'd all be with our mouth

435
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Speaker 1: shut and going, wow, look at what he just accomplished.

436
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Speaker 1: But very rarely do you see those kind of happy

437
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Speaker 1: endings like that. Es. Actually, when you have the final boss,

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Speaker 1: who is Islam mahas Ship, it's a tough guy to

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Speaker 1: take out. Man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, with respect to Leon Edwards, John Jones and

441
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Speaker 5: everybody else, the best pound for pound fighter in the

442
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Speaker 5: world I think right now in twenty twenty three is

443
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Speaker 5: Islami Kashchev. I'm not sure John Jones has a great

444
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Speaker 5: case just given the activity that has sort of been

445
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Speaker 5: a part of the last three or four years of

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Speaker 5: his career. So I think Leon Edwards with the winning streak,

447
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 5: has a better case maybe pound for pound than Johnny

448
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Speaker 5: Bones right now, despite the way he dominated Seedle Gone.

449
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 5: But hey, John Jones with a big opportunity against step

450
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Speaker 5: A Miachich coming up. But by the way, Steve Bay's

451
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Speaker 5: last fight he was thirty eight, He's forty one right now.

452
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Speaker 5: I think that's very much reflective of the betting line

453
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Speaker 5: and the widespread there. By the way, so you see

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Speaker 5: there's a little sun splash on our Anakin Floorian podcast mosaic.

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Speaker 5: It just got me thinking Ken Flow. So this Wednesday,

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Speaker 5: this master bedroom that I'm in right now, I mean,

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Speaker 5: should I pan the camera to my bed? Should I

458
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Speaker 5: just do it real quick?

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Speaker 1: Cody? Is that? Okay? So that's my bet? Okay? Hey,

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Speaker 1: all right? So but I have a real good nook here,

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Speaker 1: Like if I spin.

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Speaker 5: This around, you can see outside. I'm sure this is

463
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Speaker 5: really great anyway, so this Wednesday can flow. This master

464
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Speaker 5: bedroom is being turned into a television studio for good.

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Speaker 6: Right.

466
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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna tell you how much it costs. May

467
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Speaker 5: maybe you're maybe with Anakin Florian LLC. You can help

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Speaker 5: me out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk offline.

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Speaker 5: But so an entire television studio is being built here

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Speaker 5: on Wednesday for the purposes of this show. Three television cameras.

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Speaker 5: We got fucking confidence monitors coming in here, all sorts

473
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Speaker 5: of different stuff.

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Speaker 1: We're very excited.

475
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Speaker 5: So I think this will be the last time that

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Speaker 5: the shot in here doesn't look and sound great. But

477
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Speaker 5: that's neither here nor there. Congratulations to the new pound

478
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Speaker 5: for pound king, if he wasn't there already, Islami Kasha

479
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Speaker 5: on a second successive lightweight title defense. All right, Hamzat

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Speaker 5: Chimay have over Kamar Ushman by majority decision in the

481
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Speaker 5: co main event, which means one of the three judges

482
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Speaker 5: did give Usman rounds two and three twenty nine, twenty

483
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Speaker 5: seven on the other two score cards ten eight for

484
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Speaker 5: Chimayev on a lot of cards out there in round one,

485
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Speaker 5: not necessarily for me when you're trying to determine a

486
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Speaker 5: ten eight, and I guess the scoring really isn't the

487
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 5: lead here, but you're looking for dominance duration damage. I'm

488
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Speaker 5: not sure you had all three of those didn't really

489
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Speaker 5: have damage close to a ten eight. Guess it's neither

490
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Speaker 5: here nor there. Ken flo Kamzat Chimayev passing the biggest

491
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Speaker 5: test of his career with some circumstances, but a win

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Speaker 5: for Chimayav nonetheless.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Do we have any word on if he

494
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Speaker 1: did break his hand or not? I cannot advance that

495
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Speaker 1: story for you, Ken Flick, gotcha, Yeah, all right, all right,

496
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Speaker 1: all right, that's all right. But he did he did

497
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Speaker 1: injure it, right, So there's that excuse right there. First

498
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Speaker 1: of all, what a start from Chimayev. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: what I expected. The fact that Uzman was able to

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Speaker 1: survive that is very impressive, but also not surprising, just

501
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Speaker 1: based on how damn experienced and good Kamara Uzman is

502
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Speaker 1: and as tough as he is, I thought he had

503
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Speaker 1: a great round two to come back. Started to get interesting.

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Speaker 1: Chimayev it seemed like he didn't have that same kind

505
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Speaker 1: of peppinist step and for me, while Chimayav still got

506
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Speaker 1: a very impressive win, and there's a lot of people

507
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Speaker 1: out there being like he barely got the win over

508
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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy pounder YadA listen. Uzma is not

509
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Speaker 1: your typical one hundred and seventy pounder. This is a

510
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Speaker 1: guy who can have the belt at one hundred and

511
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Speaker 1: eighty five pounds. Okay, he is one of the greatest

512
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Speaker 1: to do it as well, and the fact that he

513
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Speaker 1: was able to get a win is still very impressive. However,

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Speaker 1: Chimayah to me, didn't show that he's that spectacular or

515
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Speaker 1: ultra sophisticated striker that maybe we had hoped. So there's

516
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Speaker 1: a little bit of vulnerability there. Now here's the thing.

517
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Speaker 1: Habib was not the best striker in the world, but

518
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Speaker 1: it didn't matter, did it. He still got people down

519
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Speaker 1: on the ground and absolutely destroyed them. And Chimayav seemed

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Speaker 1: to take more of that approach. He was looking for takedowns.

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Speaker 1: But what was a little concerning for me was him

522
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Speaker 1: showing the lack of experience. He was shooting from a

523
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Speaker 1: little bit too far out. Still was able to get

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Speaker 1: takedowns here and there, but there were times where I'm like, oh, man,

525
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Speaker 1: why is he doing that? Is he forcing it for

526
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Speaker 1: another reason? Is it in experience? Is he thinking that's

527
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Speaker 1: a good decision?

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Speaker 6: You know?

529
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Speaker 1: So there was there was a few things that were

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Speaker 1: a little concerning for me, and I think Uzman certainly

531
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Speaker 1: had his opportunities to win that fight. Some people believe

532
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Speaker 1: he did. I thought Chimayav did win that fight. I

533
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Speaker 1: had him in round three, but I don't know. So

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Speaker 1: I think there was a lot There was a lot

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Speaker 1: of good things about that fight for Chimayav, but I

536
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Speaker 1: think there's a couple bad things in that Jimaiav. He's

537
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Speaker 1: not a perfect fighter, Okay, he's not a perfect fighter,

538
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Speaker 1: and taking guys out cleanly and quickly early on can

539
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Speaker 1: be a disservice in some ways because now you expect

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Speaker 1: him to do that against everybody. Uzman is not your

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Speaker 1: typical fighter. He's one of the best to do it.

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Speaker 1: Getting a win over him shows that Chimayev is absolutely elite.

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Speaker 1: Is he championship quality? Yet I'm not sure. I'm like

544
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent convinced. I know we can, but yeah,

545
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Speaker 1: very very interesting fight with which which kind of left

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Speaker 1: me with a couple questions.

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Speaker 5: As I mentioned, I think that's all fair, and I

548
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Speaker 5: think you can also question if every single fight night

549
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Speaker 5: is he the cardio monster that I have sold him

550
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Speaker 5: as right, because Abu Dhabi there is less oxygen there.

551
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Speaker 5: I mean, I get on that treadmill as somebody who

552
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Speaker 5: runs four or five miles regularly here in the heat

553
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Speaker 5: of South Florida in the humidity in a sweatsuit sometimes

554
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Speaker 5: and I got a I go to Abu Dhabi and

555
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 5: I could barely breathe. So there is something there, right,

556
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Speaker 5: And I do think even for fighters who pride themselves

557
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Speaker 5: on their conditioning, sometimes Kenny, it's just not there and

558
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Speaker 5: there's a fight circumstance, maybe the broken hand who knows right.

559
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Speaker 5: A lot of emotion for Hamzachi Maya too in the

560
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Speaker 5: lead up to this fight, with everything that's going on

561
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Speaker 5: in the world, and you certainly saw that in what

562
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Speaker 5: was an eloquent speech in his second language. My goodness,

563
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Speaker 5: Hamzachi Maya, I mean, just incredible what he said after

564
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Speaker 5: the fight. But yes, I do think there are some

565
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Speaker 5: questions on kam Za Chimaia right now, and it's why

566
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Speaker 5: people like Paolo Costa and Drake is duplus C can

567
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Speaker 5: certainly say, hey, you know, let's let's see him fight

568
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Speaker 5: a middleweight before we get him in there with Sean Strickland.

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Speaker 5: I do believe Hamzaut is going to be next. There's

570
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Speaker 5: already been in line out there and it seems like

571
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Speaker 5: money's coming in on kam Zat Chimay have already prohibitively

572
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Speaker 5: favored against a true middleweight and Sean Strickland. I know

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Speaker 5: Sean Strickland fought at seventy for a while, can flow,

574
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Speaker 5: but kam Zat Chimaya didn't look like a huge middleweight

575
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Speaker 5: to me in front of my eyes on Saturday night.

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Speaker 5: I think Sean Strickland says to be the much bigger

577
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Speaker 5: man in that fight. I don't know, but I still

578
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 5: think kam Zahd has a great chance to become the

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Speaker 5: middleweight champion.

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Speaker 1: Let's stay on this comin event for a minute. Though.

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Speaker 5: On the kamar Usman side, I thought he was certainly valiant.

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Speaker 5: It was interesting that he sort of intimated he had

583
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Speaker 5: been offered five rounds and maybe should have accepted that,

584
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Speaker 5: But I think that would have been really a hard

585
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Speaker 5: thing to mentally wrap your head around when you hadn't

586
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Speaker 5: been training. But I guess I just wanted to say

587
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Speaker 5: of kamar Usman, I guess to a lesser extent, Alexander Volkanowski,

588
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 5: kamar Usman was seconds away from Tyan Anderson Silva's record

589
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 5: for the longest winning streak in UFC history, gets head

590
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Speaker 5: kicked by Leon Edwards and now he has three successive

591
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Speaker 5: red stripes on his Wikipedia page. The kamar Usman Kamzat

592
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Speaker 5: Chimayav matchup and the rematch between Islamikashev and Alexander Volkanovsky,

593
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 5: both of those fights kind of felt like eventualities that

594
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Speaker 5: we were going to get those fights with all guys

595
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Speaker 5: optimally trained. So as great as this pay per view

596
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Speaker 5: was in terms of these guys saving the day, and

597
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 5: I'm sure that's reflected in the pay per view sales,

598
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 5: these were two high profile matchups that I think we

599
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Speaker 5: deserve to see with all these guys optimally fully trained.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great argument, I would love to

601
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Speaker 1: see it as well. Will we see it, I don't know.

602
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Speaker 1: Maybe at some point, I think just based on the

603
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Speaker 1: fact that Usman came in here to kind of save

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Speaker 1: the day and made it another high profile fight is

605
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: probably worthy of that. If I was the UFC, I'd

606
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Speaker 1: be very grateful for that and maybe give him another

607
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: opportunity on point down the line. But you know, just

608
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Speaker 1: the fact that Uzman was able to go out there

609
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Speaker 1: and go hard, a hard fifteen minutes against someone like

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Speaker 1: Jimaia is extremely impressive, and I think we'll add to

611
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Speaker 1: his legend now. He does get an l in that process.

612
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: So for those that are not in the know or

613
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: don't know, you know how difficult it is to get

614
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Speaker 1: into a situation like that and pull off a win,

615
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: maybe that they'll overlook that. I don't know, but I

616
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Speaker 1: think for Uzman he should get another opportunity at some point.

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Speaker 1: I also think that in round three, the fact that

618
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Speaker 1: maybe he didn't have that confidence in his conditioning is

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Speaker 1: what held him back a little bit. I think in

620
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Speaker 1: round three both guys got a little bit sloppy go

621
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Speaker 1: both guys hesitated a little bit, you know, Chimayav, I'm

622
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: sure was thrown off by the end, by the hand injury,

623
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Speaker 1: by the pressure and resilience of Uzman. Being under the

624
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Speaker 1: bright lights and having that pressure on him is no joke.

625
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 1: But for Uzman, I think that his conditioning has been

626
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: a weapon time and time again, and perhaps he was okay,

627
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: but again I would say, well, well, why didn't he

628
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: put his foot on the gas in round three and

629
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Speaker 1: really try to pressure. And I think that if you

630
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: don't have that full camp, it's hard to rely on

631
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: your conditioning to know what's going to be there. It's

632
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: one thing to like think you have it, it's another

633
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: one to know you have it. And that's what a

634
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: full camp will give you. And I think that kind

635
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: of ultimately came back to hot Uzman in some way

636
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Speaker 1: shape or for.

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Speaker 5: Ray Longo coming up in about thirty seconds. I have

638
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 5: buckets of respect for Kamar Usman and don't get a

639
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 5: twisted In terms of the Wikipedia page. I did ask

640
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 5: our producer Zach Candido on show day who he felt

641
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 5: had a better chance of these short notice savages stepping

642
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 5: up for UFC two ninety four of Volkanovsky and Usman,

643
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 5: who had a better chance to spring the upset and

644
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Speaker 5: I took that as our poll question for the show.

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Speaker 5: Despite the fact that Kamar Usman was plus two eighty

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Speaker 5: and Volkanovsky was plus two oh five, both Zach and

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Speaker 5: I felt like Usman seemed to be the more mentally

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Speaker 5: physically ready to go guy given the circumstances, so we

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Speaker 5: felt like Usman maybe had a better chance than Volkanovsky.

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Speaker 5: Despite the fact that Usman was plus two eighty and

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Speaker 5: volk was plus two oh five, seventy two percent of

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Speaker 5: respondents felt like Volkanovsky had a better chance. I wouldn't

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Speaker 5: go so far as to say Usman was live Kenny,

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Speaker 5: but I thought he had a pretty good shot, just

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Speaker 5: given the matchup, given his wrestling defense, given his championship medal.

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Speaker 5: But uh again, I think, uh, if he could have

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Speaker 5: that one back, he certainly would have liked to have

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Speaker 5: some time to prepare. All right, let us get to

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Speaker 5: the star of the program, waiting on hole thinking how

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Speaker 5: much these guys gotta talk before they let me go

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Speaker 5: three while let's get to the Ray Long minute.

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Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes, and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna putch a hole in this fucking shucks.

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Speaker 7: That's what I wanted the.

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Speaker 2: Ray Long Minute Ray the John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 8: Hey, I always loved listening to Kenny. Told you know

667
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Speaker 8: that keep me in the back, keep me in the

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Speaker 8: back all you want and get smarter. Listen dead on

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Speaker 8: Kenny with everything you were saying. I mean, I said

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Speaker 8: that last week, great fights. I don't want to see

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Speaker 8: him with no camp, and it turned out like that.

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Speaker 8: Now you got both guys usman, we know with a

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Speaker 8: full camp wins that fight. In the five round fight.

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Speaker 8: I think that was pretty You can make that assumptions.

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Speaker 8: I guaranteed. But you know, right, he's got he's got

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Speaker 8: to deal with that now. And like you guys say,

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Speaker 8: UFC wants to.

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Speaker 6: Do the right thing.

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Speaker 7: What the right thing is immediate rematch, five round fight,

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Speaker 7: main event title, I mean not title, but main event fight.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 6: That's the right thing. I helped you, now you helped me,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. That's it. Nothing nothing short

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Speaker 6: of that is good as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 4: NF.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but both.

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Speaker 5: Guys, in order to accept that fight, were guaranteed a

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Speaker 5: shot at the middleweight title. I mean, does Hamzak get

689
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Speaker 5: no credit for fighting Gooseman and not Paolo Costa on

690
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Speaker 5: short notice.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, you give him credit. You got to

692
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Speaker 7: give him credit. But you know, one guy, I mean, look,

693
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Speaker 7: even Volk you could see it in the press conference. Man,

694
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Speaker 7: that guy's busted up with that. I mean, like, I

695
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 7: don't think he thinks that was a good decision now,

696
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Speaker 7: I by the way he's talking, I really don't. And

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Speaker 7: now he's got to live with and now he's concust

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Speaker 7: he got hitting the noggin. He's got to take that

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Speaker 7: going for for why an extra walk?

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Speaker 1: Two million dollars?

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Speaker 6: All right? Maybe more, Hey, John, as long as you're satisfied.

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Speaker 5: Maybe four, maybe five million dollars.

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Speaker 6: Well no, listen, maybe if maybe, if it's ten, but

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Speaker 6: then say, you know what, I'm happy I did.

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Speaker 7: I got my ten million taken just like Islam told him,

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Speaker 7: you're fighting for the money. Well, it's nothing else going

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Speaker 7: on here. I mean I don't know, but now you.

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Speaker 1: Got to go a big part of it.

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Speaker 5: Well, no, and as much as I put Kenny Florian

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Speaker 5: on a pedestal and George Saint Pierre on a pedestal,

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Speaker 5: you know, if Ken Flow had an opportunity for a

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Speaker 5: super fight at seventy on twelve days notice, for one

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Speaker 5: point five million dollars.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe Ken Flow shows up a little soft,

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Speaker 1: but kept thow fucking training year round.

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Speaker 7: Let first, well, that's not even fix because the guy

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Speaker 7: he's fought eighteen different weightlisses.

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Speaker 6: Ken Flow.

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Speaker 7: Norris things we had, that's tenth flow man doesn't have

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Speaker 7: a wait Cliz waits every book.

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Speaker 5: So so Ray So we launched John anak dot com

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Speaker 5: last week and a whole new anakid floor in podcast

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Speaker 5: merchandise store. And you will be happy to know that

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Speaker 5: the number one design out of the clubhouse.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is no upside.

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Speaker 5: My brother was like, you will not be surprised the

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Speaker 5: Ray Long minute T shirt. We have sold more of

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Speaker 5: those than any other design.

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Speaker 6: So and that and what would that be six to four? Actually,

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Speaker 6: actually it's pretty close.

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Speaker 5: I know, if you really want to know, it's been

732
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Speaker 5: it's been a huge week. Moment, it's been a huge week.

733
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Speaker 5: If you really want to know, it's been outstanding.

734
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Speaker 6: I don't want to know.

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Speaker 5: But when I when I sell you as the star

736
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Speaker 5: of the show, that is not hyperbole. You are absolutely

737
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: the star of the show, and we do not take

738
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Speaker 5: that lightly. Even if you come on here and say

739
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Speaker 5: I could listen to Kenny all day, Like, what the

740
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Speaker 5: fuck does that say about me? I mean, I guess

741
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Speaker 5: you had, but yeah, well, anytime you guys want to

742
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Speaker 5: do the show without me, I mean you lost?

743
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Speaker 6: What do you insecure today? What's going on with help?

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00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

745
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 5: So that flight jet leg dude, it's you know, with

746
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 5: everything going on with my sister in law and in

747
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: the world. Like I don't want to complain about being

748
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 5: on a metal tube for seventeen hours, but I am.

749
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 5: I'm spinning in my head right now. I'm really not

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Speaker 5: clear of thoughts. So thanks for all right, So we

751
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 5: have a lot to get into today. So God to

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Speaker 5: love the Ray Longo texts on fight night, what I'm

753
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Speaker 5: calling these reviews and you can be sure that, uh,

754
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 5: the ringside physician drew his eye.

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00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: So wow, Ray says to me.

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Speaker 5: So, if you don't know Maga mat Unclive and Johnny Walker,

757
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 5: it's a no contest due to the illegal knee. Johnny

758
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: Walker certainly is hoping that this will be a DQ.

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Speaker 5: But this doctor had several forgettable moments on this night,

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Speaker 5: and so Ray Longo texts me, like the doctors going

761
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Speaker 5: in there telling John you walk like, hey, sorry, pal,

762
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 5: the knee actually hits your chest, my man, So let's

763
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Speaker 5: see what you can do because earlier he hit. Of

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Speaker 5: course told Victor Henry, wow, that the knee that twisted

765
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Speaker 5: his testicles actually didn't hit his knots. I mean this

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Speaker 5: doctor's got some nerve.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, why would you do that? You take

768
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Speaker 6: a hippocratic goal?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what what?

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Speaker 6: What the hell was that?

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00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 7: That was just total irresponsibility at its highest, Like I

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Speaker 7: don't I don't get even if even if it was

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Speaker 7: because said, look, you're sure you know it was hitting

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Speaker 7: the balls. I looked like something some dialogue. The guy's

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00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 7: throwing up in the back. He's got to get rushed

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Speaker 7: to the hospital. This guy, I'll tell you what, man,

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Speaker 7: if he's acting you got me, you got me. There's

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Speaker 7: there's nothing I could say you got me if that's

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Speaker 7: an act you got But I I can't see that man.

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Speaker 6: And for the doctor, and he wasn't a young guy,

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Speaker 6: right have to. I mean, I'm saying, any good doctor

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Speaker 6: sees what's going they just know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, what was that? How do you do that?

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Speaker 6: I've had to up to Victor Henry, but basically telling

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Speaker 6: the guy go fuck yourself. My bulls hit my bean?

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Speaker 6: Is my big might it?

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Speaker 1: You know how bad you that be?

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Speaker 6: Kenny? When you start yelling and you're in pain, now

789
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Speaker 6: you got to fight again? Like it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: What a terriff?

791
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Speaker 4: That was nuts?

792
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 6: That was nuts?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, Kenny, let's Kenny.

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Speaker 5: Let's table the magamet Ankoli of Johnny Walker thing for

795
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Speaker 5: a moment. So Victor Henry against Javid Basharat. So Basharat

796
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Speaker 5: lands the kick and maybe it started in the leg,

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Speaker 5: but certainly the follow through went up in the worst

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Speaker 5: possible way and hit Victor Henry in a way that

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Speaker 5: he was absolutely just writhing in pain, just absolutely awful.

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Speaker 5: He had a testicular ultrasound. Later that night, I flew

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Speaker 5: back with Josh Barnett and what a treat for me

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Speaker 5: to have like two hours at the airport with a

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Speaker 5: war master. Thankfully, it appears as though he's going to

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Speaker 5: be okay. There was no ruptured testicle here, so thankfully,

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Speaker 5: Victor Henry, I think in four to six weeks is

806
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Speaker 5: actually going to be okay. But Javid Basharat and his

807
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Speaker 5: team is showing no remorse, no sympathy whatsoever, because they

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Speaker 5: believe that they hit the intended target Ray. We got

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Speaker 5: to take the fighter here at his word. And it's

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Speaker 5: not just the doctor that I think is going to

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Speaker 5: be absorbing some criticism here. It's going to be the

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Speaker 5: Basharat camp as well, doing Cooper and everybody else, because

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Speaker 5: instead of expressing sympathy for a fighter who obviously got

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Speaker 5: kicked in the fucking pills, they're going the total opposite way,

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Speaker 5: saying they're going to appeal it, suggesting it should be

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Speaker 5: a TKO win. And it just seems with respect and

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Speaker 5: I really appreciate Javitt feels very unsportsmanlike to me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, I met Javid in Vegas. Seems

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Speaker 7: like a really really nice guy. Him and his brother.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you know what happens.

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Speaker 7: I think, even to the doctor's point, the narratives thoughts

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Speaker 7: he didn't get kicked in the bulls, I don't. I

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Speaker 7: think somebody just told the doctor that kick was to

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Speaker 7: the leg. He doesn't look at it, he doesn't vent it.

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Speaker 1: Yes official, yes, right, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Like, I think he just without doing his due diligence.

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Speaker 7: I think he just goes in there and blurts out

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Speaker 7: you were kicked in the leg, with no knowledge of

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Speaker 7: what happened. I don't think he even looked at it,

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Speaker 7: because I do think I listen, the kick start, like

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Speaker 7: you said, it starts on the intended target, but the

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Speaker 7: foot is past his you know, is.

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Speaker 6: In between.

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Speaker 7: Like his ass and balls, I mean, and whatever, Kenny,

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Speaker 7: whatever it is, Yeah, kay, whatever you want, But whatever

836
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Speaker 7: it is, it could have been just a perfect shot.

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Speaker 7: Visually it didn't look it, but there's no way. Look,

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Speaker 7: maybe he had something going on. I'll go with that,

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Speaker 7: you know where.

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Speaker 6: Now he got tapped somewhere and it just set off

841
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Speaker 6: a cascade of pain for him. But yeah, you can't

842
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Speaker 6: say that, you know.

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Speaker 7: I kind of hear Jared he thinks he kicked them

844
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Speaker 7: in the end leg but coming out, you know what

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Speaker 7: I mean, something happened.

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Speaker 6: I mean, so I don't know. I think it's man,

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Speaker 6: I say, anybody's been kicked in the.

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Speaker 7: Bulls, don't I don't think you want to carry that

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Speaker 7: call with him, Man, I'll be honest, my gosh, call

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Speaker 7: it a no contest that I wouldn't appeal it for sure.

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Speaker 7: That's just not right. The guy's throwing up in the back.

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Speaker 7: Something happened, you know what I mean. I don't know

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Speaker 7: what it was, but it looked like I think DC

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Speaker 7: said it. If you watch his toes, they could have

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Speaker 7: coming out hitting a perfect spot.

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Speaker 5: You know, it doesn't The replay doesn't matter with respect right,

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Speaker 5: whether our camera was in a suboptimal position or not,

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Speaker 5: the replay doesn't even matter. Let's take the fighter at

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Speaker 5: his word. He had to be carried out of the

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Speaker 5: fucking octagon by Josh Barnett. And I think for Bashratt

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Speaker 5: and his team, they're a little bit frustrated that they

862
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 5: haven't gotten ranked opposition. He trains with Morob Dwallash Willie

863
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 5: and al Jamaine Sterling and believes he's the best man

864
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 5: and wait in the world right now, skill for skill,

865
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 5: I mean that's a direct quote. Javid Basherett believes he's

866
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 5: the best man wait in the world and he hasn't

867
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 5: gotten a chance to fight a rank guy. So overwhelmingly

868
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 5: frustrated that in this fight that he was a five

869
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 5: to one favorite to win, that it ends up uh

870
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 5: being a no contest. But we wish Victor Henry all

871
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 5: the best. Hey, I want to get to uh that

872
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 5: pictured about go ahead.

873
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, sorry and move on. That's it. Just move on

874
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 6: and whatever happened happened.

875
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 7: Even if it was a mistake, you got to move on,

876
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Jared, And listen, if you

877
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 7: were being away fighting in the UFC and you don't

878
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 7: think you're going to be a champion, I.

879
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 6: Don't even know what the fuck you're doing there, So

880
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 6: that's off to him. He's right, he's very good.

881
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 7: I saw him in the Jimmy should think he's gonna

882
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 7: be No, I agree, you know, you know, I agree

883
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 7: he's trained with Maria without of that.

884
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 6: Well, go ahead and feat you thevent.

885
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 5: Well no, if they thought it was a clean strike

886
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 5: in totality, they're not going to enjoy listening to the callback,

887
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 5: which I guess is what it is. But no, I

888
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: just want to get your thoughts. I'll eventually circle back

889
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 5: to Islam. But on magamt Ankliav and Johnny Walker, another

890
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 5: just weird situation. Clearly illegal knee by Maga mat Ancliab.

891
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 5: I don't know that it was worthy of a disqualification,

892
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 5: but uh, Johnny Walker couldn't tell the doctor what country

893
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 5: he was in. I felt like the doctor was in

894
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 5: a great rushed to stop the fight.

895
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 6: Whatever.

896
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 5: I didn't give Johnny Walker any sort of time to

897
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 5: sort of digest what was going on, and then before

898
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 5: you know what, you had Pandemona and thankfully Dana White

899
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 5: was there to get in Johnny Walker's face.

900
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: But what did you make of all that? Raymond? And

901
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: then Kenny?

902
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, I mean, look, once again, I think you're

903
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 7: you're spot on. The doctor looked like he asked them

904
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 7: one question, Kenny, I texted John, I go, I've been there.

905
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 7: I don't know what country it is. If you ask

906
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 7: me right now, you know what I mean. Like if

907
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 7: the guy somebody told me he said he's in the desert,

908
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 7: that's good enough for me. That's a start.

909
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 6: What part of it? Ask him? Get engaged a guy? Yeah,

910
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 6: one question?

911
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: We agree.

912
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm telling you al Joe said it in Boston,

913
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 7: like when they asked him what state he in. I'm

914
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 7: telling you, I know it sounds crazy to everybody, but boy,

915
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 7: everybody just thinks of Borston.

916
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 6: They don't think of Massachusetts. Leave us alone is bigger

917
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 6: than Massachusetts.

918
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: To me, it really is.

919
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 7: So even when Al Joe said that, people could think

920
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 7: he's book. No, you got to think for a minute,

921
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 7: what do you thought? Even if you didn't get hit

922
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 7: in that so I don't agree with that at all.

923
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 7: I think there would have been a way better way

924
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 7: to go about doing it. And the only other thing

925
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 7: I got is with that is Johnny Walker, because of

926
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 7: what he did with the other blow, where he faked

927
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 7: a little bit to get the guy to come in.

928
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 7: He is a jokes He might have joked his way

929
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 7: right out of that fight.

930
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 4: I don't know.

931
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 7: Maybe when the guy was asking him questions, he thought

932
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 7: it would be funny to say that. I don't know,

933
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 7: but he seems like he's a practical joke type of guy.

934
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 7: Maybe that was it because he when he asked him

935
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 7: the course, he was looking across at the other guy

936
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 7: like I want to go, like, don't even bother me,

937
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 7: let's go, you know.

938
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 9: But.

939
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know Kenny, only Johnny Walker really knows.

940
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 5: Certainly the worst results Kenny against Maga man Anclive than

941
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 5: a no contest. Maybe Johnny Walker didn't feel like the

942
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 5: fight was going exceedingly well in terms of intent, and

943
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 5: Cody is wondering in the chat how you quantify intent.

944
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 5: The point is that he did not intend to illegally strike,

945
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 5: but I guess that kind of goes without saying Cody's

946
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 5: saying every strike isn't every strike you throw intentional? So, Kenny,

947
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 5: I don't believe ken flow. You believe that uncle leave

948
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 5: should have been decued. But what were your thoughts on

949
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 5: all of that?

950
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: If I meant Yeah, to me, it seemed like he

951
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: was actually like waiting for uh, that hand to come

952
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: up right, So he was like waiting for the right

953
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: time to do it. You could tell he was looking

954
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: for it, uh, and then uh just threw it at

955
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 1: that the wrong time. And for Johnny Walker, Yeah, listen,

956
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: I think a lot of things are happening and going

957
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: on in that type of intense situation, fighting at a

958
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: professional level, you know, trap all that stuff could be stressful. Well,

959
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: probably wasn't thinking properly, and I think that the doctor

960
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: should have given him a little bit more time to

961
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: answer that properly, you know. And uh, just unfortunate all

962
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: the way around because it did end so quickly. You know,

963
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: we really didn't get a whole lot out of that one.

964
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: And I think it had the makings to be a

965
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: very very good fight, but just unfortunate all the way around. Man,

966
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: what Walker's He's an interesting guy. He's an oddball, and

967
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: I think that if you don't know that and you

968
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: hear him say something like I'm in the desert, yeah

969
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: he might that's probably a typical Johnny Walker.

970
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly.

971
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 7: I think yeah, he might have joked his way right

972
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 7: out of that. He it was funny, you could tell

973
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 7: by even you know, he was very lighthearted during the fight.

974
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 7: You know he remember when he faked getting hit and

975
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 7: he threw the flying knee when the guy came in.

976
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 7: So he's in that type of you know space where

977
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 7: he's having a good time and you know he so

978
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 7: he got neat and edity. It's not like he filled

979
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 7: the floor and he was out. He acknowledged it and

980
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 7: then but he got it. Got to answer some questions

981
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 7: like are you kidding me? I think that is I

982
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 7: thought that was another red listen. I guarantee you you

983
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 7: research that doctor.

984
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 6: I think they used to call it like a fifth way.

985
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 6: He got his degree in Granada. I guarantee that either.

986
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 7: That or he's a chiropractic. I mean, there was no

987
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 7: weping of the commission there. Check into that guy. That's

988
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 7: what I want to anybody out there. I wonderful what

989
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 7: kind of doctor he was. And I'll tell you what,

990
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 7: it's not gonna come up good.

991
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 6: There's no way.

992
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 7: That was just unprofessional on all the situations, all the situations, you.

993
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 6: Know what I mean?

994
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 5: And uh, well, and I got to say for maga

995
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 5: at Uncliath the draw against Yoan Beohovich, I felt like

996
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 5: the draw last December was justified. I really felt like

997
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 5: Yambohovich did enough with those leg kicks, especially early, to

998
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 5: earn a draw against Uncliab. But then you wait ten

999
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 5: months can flow and then this happens against Johnny Walker.

1000
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 5: I will admit to feeling a little bit bad for

1001
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 5: Magambat Uncle, but you do have to control your weapons,

1002
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 5: and uh that's kind of is what it is. Hey, Ray, Yeah,

1003
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: speaking of lighthearted, you get a new cell phone yet?

1004
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 6: Or no, no, it's come back. I'll tell you what

1005
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 6: I did, though, Man, you're gonna be as check.

1006
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 4: No.

1007
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 6: I changed out the router. I got great.

1008
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 5: Your service seems great. The audio is really crystal so

1009
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 5: much so I can hear the gym door open and

1010
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 5: close every time somebody comes in. Cody, can you send

1011
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 5: him some equipment for next week so that we don't

1012
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 5: have to hear the gym door open and close every

1013
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 5: time somebody comes into uh Longo, New York.

1014
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 6: He takes those long trips home. These is these it's different, man,

1015
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 6: he gets a little cranky.

1016
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 5: He gets five one, six, two seventy nine.

1017
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: For one.

1018
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 5: It's the direct line. You can look them up in

1019
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 5: the phone phone uh Longo.

1020
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: Widman.

1021
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 5: Mma, So, Ray, I'd like to ask you about Islam

1022
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 5: Makashev and Alexander Volkanovski. Maybe not totally in the context

1023
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 5: of bolk taking the fight on short notice, and more

1024
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 5: in the context of Makashev's greatness. You can take it

1025
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 5: anywhere you want. But I guess I'm just curious on

1026
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 5: your overall thoughts on on this rematch happening now and

1027
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 5: Mikashev really take into Bolovski so early.

1028
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, look, man, I think it was a decision

1029
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 6: both made. I think he is that guy.

1030
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 7: I personally thought he had a chance, but I look

1031
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 7: hats off and like again, this is a problem with

1032
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 7: the short notice fights because the attention goes to what

1033
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 7: the guy who took the fight did, and they accuse

1034
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 7: that these guys got to be good. Credit also for

1035
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 7: taking the fight against somebody unknown. But there's a big

1036
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 7: difference when you have full camp and you take somebody unknown.

1037
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 7: Then when you don't have a camp, you know what

1038
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 7: I mean, They still trained right, so they have time

1039
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 7: to kind of make the adjustments if they have to.

1040
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 7: Everybody's in the right spots. Other guys are coming in.

1041
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 7: Like Kenny said, with Who's funny, he just didn't believe

1042
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 7: in his cardial Why should he?

1043
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

1044
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 7: But I thought it was a great call by Trouble

1045
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 7: where you gotta go. There's no now that's stacked around.

1046
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 7: They just looked at each other. That's the time he

1047
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 7: should have went. He should have able to figure it

1048
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 7: out in there. But getting back to the Volte thing,

1049
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 7: I go, look, Islam did exactly what he had at

1050
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 7: the last minute. Uh, you know, the guy took it

1051
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 7: on the list. I get rid of the guy quick

1052
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 7: like you get those five rounds. He gets criticized for that,

1053
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 7: so hats off to his life. We know he's a

1054
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 7: great fight, and I think Volk had the biggest test

1055
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 7: on short notice. Because Islam's at top of his game.

1056
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 7: The other guy's still you know, he's good. We know

1057
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 7: he's a savage at least in the first round, but

1058
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 7: he's not his momb He's not his lomb for sure.

1059
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 7: He's not proven. Like you could see, there's a lot

1060
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 7: of holes in his game, you know what I mean.

1061
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 6: So, yeah, he took the fight too. He's got to

1062
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 6: be given credit, But the credit goes to Usman. He

1063
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 6: could have won that fight.

1064
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 7: He you know, if that first round isn't a ten

1065
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 7: eight one, guy hasn't won in the fight, you know,

1066
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 7: I mean, he could have won the second and third rounds.

1067
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 7: I'm not saying I agree with that, but and if

1068
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 7: somebody scored it with that, but but yeah, great, this

1069
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 7: guy's an killer in the first round. The fact that

1070
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 7: Usman's coming up from seventy to one to eighty five

1071
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 7: and he could deal with that from that guy who's

1072
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 7: supposed to who is a beef for real, He's just

1073
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 7: he's got to be a beast.

1074
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 6: For five rounds. I think that's where he's gonna that's

1075
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 6: gonna be his kryptonite.

1076
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 7: I can't see him at what I'm looking at right now,

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Speaker 7: making the five round faches against a guy that could

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Speaker 7: survive what.

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Speaker 6: The first rounds.

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Speaker 5: It is interesting thinking about kam Zacchi maiev Ino was

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Speaker 5: somebody like Pallo Costa. After seeing what we saw against

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Speaker 5: Kamar Usman who who had not been training. Yeah, all right,

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00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 5: so we may circle back to UFC two ninety four

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Speaker 5: before I let you go here at the bottom of

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Speaker 5: the hour. But many of the combat sports people are

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Speaker 5: staying in that part of the world because in Saudi

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Speaker 5: Arabia this Saturday night, Francis and Ghan who is going

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Speaker 5: to take his shots at Tyson Fury Ray Longo Tyson

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00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 5: Fury modus two thousand. Francis is like plus ten forty,

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Speaker 5: So a one hundred dollars bet on Francis, we'll return

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Speaker 5: you a thousand bucks can flow Ray Longo and he

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Speaker 5: thoughts on this boxing match coming up this weekend, and

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Speaker 5: how do you handicap Francis and Gano's chances.

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Speaker 6: And what announces are they're fighting with the regular.

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Speaker 5: Box I almost looked up the particulars, the rounds, loves

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Speaker 5: and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: What a saline question?

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Speaker 5: Ray are a Steam podcast producer, Cody'm gonna look that

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Speaker 5: stuff up. But without those answers, should maybe Kenny, why

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Speaker 5: don't you lead us off? Ray needs more information before

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Speaker 5: he perspective.

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Speaker 1: It's listen, similar to what we've been talking about. You know,

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00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: when you're talking about facing deepest in the world. All

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00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: of those things matter, you know, all of those things matter.

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00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: The size of the gloves, you know, which which to directing?

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00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: The wind is blown, mean, Pete's sake, all this stuff matters.

1107
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: But the reality is in this particular fight, right, I mean,

1108
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury has such a huge advantage, and Frantis and Gon,

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00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: who's best bet is hoping and bring that Tyson Fury

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00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: isn't taking him seriously. Even then, Tyson Fury is just

1111
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: so damn good of a boxer that he just kind

1112
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: of jab him to death, keeping God on the outside,

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00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, be done with the exhibition and move on

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Speaker 1: to his next professional fight, which is over He's edge,

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00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: So that that's what you're kind of hoping for. Yeah,

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00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: maybe there's some kind of kick in the armor and

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00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury, maybe he's not taking him seriously. Maybe he's

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00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: just trying to get in shape or using Francis and

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00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: Gano for this exhibition to get in shape for his

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00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: next one, not taking it seriously, right, I mean, that's

1121
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: how good Tyson Fury is at his own game. This

1122
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: is his domain. Make no mistake of betant can't frances

1123
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: Gano knock out a lot of guys one hundred percent.

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00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: The problem is he's to hit a guy in Tyson Fury,

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00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: who is one of the most evasive heavyweight champions that

1126
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. He's also absolutely massive, he can move

1127
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: really well. He's got the for work, he's got the intelligence,

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Speaker 1: he's got the experience, he's got the side. I mean,

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00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: there's just so much in his favor, right, So these

1130
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: odds are about right. Francin Gano's best bet is looking

1131
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: for some way to kind of land a barrage of shots,

1132
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, get on the inside, roughing Tyson up, you know,

1133
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: being off rhythm, just being kind of unorthodox and landing

1134
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: a flurry up some massive shots. Even then it's gonna

1135
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: be difficult, but you know, I'm curious. I'm curious to

1136
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Speaker 1: see it. Of course, this is not what France Sigano

1137
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: really does. He's got a ton of power, but Tyson

1138
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: Furry is one of the best heavyweight boxers that I've

1139
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: ever seen.

1140
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 5: Ray, it's not an exhibition, it's a professional boxing match

1141
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 5: ten to three minute rise. It'll be scored by three

1142
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 5: judges using the ten point system. Cody's still chasing. I

1143
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 5: guess the weight of the gloves. I'm gonna look that

1144
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 5: up as well. But yeah, definitely not an exhibition. Raymond.

1145
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Speaker 7: Your thoughts, Oh wow, Yeah, Look, I'm kind of agreeing

1146
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 7: with Kenny.

1147
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 6: I mean, but every so often in boxing with the heavyweights, every.

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00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 5: Four rounds gloves no no, oh wow, I just got

1149
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 5: had by the internet. Just got fucking had ken flow.

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Speaker 3: But U.

1151
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Speaker 7: Often in heavyweight boxing you see a guy come in

1152
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 7: who's not supposed to win. It's a big underdog that

1153
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 7: lands one lucky shot. So the only thing I'll disagree

1154
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 7: with Kenny, I don't think it would be a barrage punches.

1155
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 7: I think it's one shot. The problem with that is

1156
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 7: Deontay Wilder hits like an amal too, so he's not

1157
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 7: It's not like you got a guy who's not used

1158
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 7: to getting hit by big guys the same size as him.

1159
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 7: So Francis, you know, look, man, he's he's got power.

1160
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 7: The power he's got for MMA, he's got. I think

1161
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 7: it's more arm power. He's not obviously he's not snapping

1162
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 7: his punches, but he's so damn big and strong it

1163
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 7: doesn't matter, you know, with the little gloves, he'll get

1164
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 7: you out of there.

1165
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 6: With the big gloves man.

1166
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 7: He's eat the jib constantly and the guy's moving Like

1167
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 7: you said, it's gonna be hard to connect with him.

1168
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 7: And then he starts getting hit. It's gonna be a

1169
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 7: different feeling for him. It's I think, just a different rhythm. Uh,

1170
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 7: and he's got his work cut out for him. But yeah,

1171
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 7: it's like in fighting. You know, anything could happen, but

1172
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 7: it's a it's a long shot, but I think it

1173
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 7: would be one shot that the other guy takes.

1174
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 6: You know, he's in there, he's playing.

1175
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 7: With him and he gets hit out of nowhere, and

1176
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 7: it's yeah, he's not going to get hit with a

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00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 7: barrage because he moves his head too much and he

1178
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 7: knows how to wrap you up and you know, like

1179
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 7: again he's used to the bigger guys, I think anyway,

1180
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 7: But I yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, uh, thank you for uh for the time today, Raymond.

1182
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Speaker 5: I will I will leave you with this. I saw

1183
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 5: aljamein Sterling and his lovely fiance Rebecca in Abu Dhabi

1184
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 5: and I said to Rebecca, don't you just want to

1185
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 5: go home at this point in time? I mean Australia

1186
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 5: and I mean world travelers. I know, al Joe's cash

1187
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 5: at every check. But uh, those two have been on

1188
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 5: the move, you know.

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00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 7: Beautiful, that's what he wanted to do after the Sahudo.

1190
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 7: That's right, that's the problem, you know, that's like gett

1191
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 7: into that though.

1192
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: All right, well, anything else? How's your hit? How's your hit?

1193
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 6: I'm doing great, I'm good and I'm back.

1194
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can see.

1195
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 6: Another three or four weeks. I get the total clearance.

1196
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 5: But uh, can you stand up back up in shadows

1197
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 5: for our audience right now?

1198
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 6: Or no, no, I can't.

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00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: You're not going to do that.

1200
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 6: I'll send you some videos. I'll be hitting pads.

1201
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: Send me some videos. Send me some videos.

1202
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 6: You'll love it.

1203
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: Send me a picture of the Scar sixty five baby,

1204
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: and go the scar.

1205
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 6: I'll tell you the guy did a great job. The

1206
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 6: scar is man hardly there. I don't know.

1207
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: Hey, keep banging on, Massachusetts. You'll be lucky to get

1208
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: invited back next week. All right?

1209
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 6: Wait, what was wrong with that? What?

1210
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: No, I'm just messing around. I'm just messing around. Well,

1211
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: I was born. People are gonna fucking hate me.

1212
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 5: I was born at the Boston Lying In Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts,

1213
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy eight, so I can lay claim to

1214
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 5: being born in the city, but I grew up in

1215
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 5: metro West Massachusetts. And I just don't want you to

1216
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 5: throw the rest of the state under the bus and

1217
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 5: say the Boston's big of the Massachusetts. But I guess

1218
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 5: you're speaking in truth.

1219
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: So what am I? What am I to do?

1220
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 6: I'm actually speaking the total ignorance?

1221
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: All right? Well you look good, you look.

1222
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 6: I was trying to justify al Joe, saying I had

1223
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 6: to think about it, and I don't blame them when

1224
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 6: they asked them what state he was in?

1225
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: Right now?

1226
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 7: Right?

1227
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 5: Well no, I said on the Postfight show that if

1228
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 5: they had asked to me what country I was in,

1229
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 5: I might have said Abu Dhabi instead of United Arab Emirates.

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00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 6: Right, I would have want what would be any day

1231
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 6: of the week?

1232
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right?

1233
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 6: Uh? He should have asked him who's buried in grants? Too?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

1235
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 6: Right?

1236
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, what do we do?

1237
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 6: You know? Oh?

1238
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 7: Wait, maybe he should have asked Johnny Walker, what ways

1239
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 7: more a pound of feathers or a pound of nails?

1240
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 6: Just a torture?

1241
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1242
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 6: Man, what are we just talking about?

1243
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: Couldn't wait to stop the fight. I just and then

1244
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: he didn't regret his decision.

1245
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 6: Okay, but yeah, what sizes aren't Delia of shoe right? Well,

1246
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 6: you're rout fight though.

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Speaker 1: Right, So.

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1251
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Speaker 5: So uh, we appreciate the time, brother and uh at

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Speaker 5: at Ray long Go Mma. We love you, buddy, right,

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Speaker 5: love you guys, so.

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Speaker 1: Ma gave Hey.

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Speaker 6: I'm a team player, buddy, right.

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Speaker 5: So it's just the Waian team, that's right, the Godfather

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Speaker 5: Ray Long.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you're back, man. Thank you for the job

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Speaker 6: and tranfessionalism, making the cool, making the warm Monday morning

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Speaker 6: and Monday know wherever the hell we're at.

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Speaker 7: I love you, buddy, you guys have the best time,

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Speaker 7: have a great week. I feel unfucking believable everything.

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Speaker 1: Yes, take it.

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Speaker 5: This is the energy I've been waiting for since in

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Speaker 5: August when they U gott to go work man Ti.

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Speaker 5: There is ray long mantute every week here on the

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Speaker 5: Ana and Florian Podcast. Couple of other highlights from UFC

1275
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Speaker 5: to ninety four. We will be joined by Ian Maschado.

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Speaker 5: Gary here live from Iceland shortly. Very excited about that, Kenny,

1277
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if you saw the fight between Mohammed

1278
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Speaker 5: Naimab and Nathaniel would It's a prelim. You don't even

1279
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Speaker 5: need to have seen the fight to engage me in

1280
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 5: this conversation. So Nathaniel would absorb two groin strikes in

1281
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Speaker 5: the fight. Lucas Bosaki is one of the better referees

1282
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 5: out there, I think, other than the big names that

1283
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 5: you traditionally and routinely hear from. But when there's a foul,

1284
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Speaker 5: oftentimes what you're trying to do as a referee is

1285
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Speaker 5: level the playing field for the rest of the fight,

1286
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Speaker 5: and sometimes you need to take a point to do that.

1287
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 5: And Nathaniel Wood is not the excuse making type, but

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Speaker 5: I do believe that his performance was compromised by those

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Speaker 5: groin shots.

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Speaker 1: The first one really hurt him. He didn't take the

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Speaker 1: full five minutes. But sometimes optics can be everything.

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Speaker 5: And if Nathaniel would I'm not saying he needs to

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Speaker 5: theatrically act there, but if he takes a little bit

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Speaker 5: more time, then maybe Bosaki's thinking, I got to level

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Speaker 5: the playing field, and then the second one happens, and

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Speaker 5: then maybe you take the point. I guess it just

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Speaker 5: felt to me, and congratulations to Mohammed Naima, but it

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Speaker 5: just felt like a draw might have been the more

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Speaker 5: appropriate result here, and I just felt like Bosaki really

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Speaker 5: needed to level the playing field there, and he did it,

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Speaker 5: and now Nathaniel would instead of being four and ozer

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Speaker 5: one hundred and forty five pounds in the UFC, is

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Speaker 5: on a losing street, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: Man. I think so many times fighters take the approach

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Speaker 1: of it's just a scratch or I'm good, I'm good,

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Speaker 1: let's let me get back in there, let me get

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Speaker 1: back and sometimes they do themselves a disservice, like wait

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Speaker 1: till you're one hundred percent now. I don't like the

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Speaker 1: acting part of it either, of course, I don't, but

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Speaker 1: like you said, I didn't think he really needed to

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Speaker 1: do that. But take the time that's appropriate for you

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Speaker 1: to be able to go out there and give one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent your opponent isn't you know, your opponent's fine, right,

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Speaker 1: So why are you going to go in there, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're still feeling the effects of a groin shot.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that it's little things like that

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Speaker 1: that could sway a referee a certain way right to

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Speaker 1: actually take a point. But I think it's a really

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Speaker 1: valid point. This is where it comes down to really

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Speaker 1: being savvy, being a veteran fighter out there and not

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Speaker 1: giving a certain advantage or a known advantage to your opponent.

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Speaker 1: And that's one of those instances where I think you're

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Speaker 1: just doing it too much. There's so much at stake

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Speaker 1: in these fights, John, And as we were mentioning, as

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Speaker 1: you get to the elite level, every damn thing matters. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you want all of those things in your favor

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Speaker 1: as much as you can. And I think that was

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Speaker 1: one of those instances where it just favored his opponent

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Speaker 1: a little bit too much and it came back to

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Speaker 1: bite him, all right.

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Speaker 5: A couple other things on the pay per view I

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Speaker 5: would like to get to. Ikram Alaskairov defeated Warlealvez by

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Speaker 5: tko a huge switch knee follow up punches. The incomes

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Speaker 5: at two oh seven of round one. The bonus comes

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Speaker 5: as well, as many of our listeners and viewers know.

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Speaker 5: Ikram Alascarov's loan professional loss came by devastating knockout against

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Speaker 5: kamzat CHIMAIV that was in Jordan back in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Ken Flow.

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Speaker 5: This is a guy in Ikram Alaskaiov that, after a

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Speaker 5: brilliant UFC debut, was given a high profile pay per

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Speaker 5: view slot in July against Palo Costa. He was favored

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Speaker 5: to beat the former world title challenger Palo Costa. Of

1343
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 5: course that fight when again went away. Then he was

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Speaker 5: going to fight Nos Sordini Mavov and it ends up

1345
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Speaker 5: being Wally is on short notice, the former welterweight right,

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Speaker 5: so the UFC's giving him big fights against the best

1347
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 5: middleweights in the world already Paolo Costa, No Sordini Mava

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Speaker 5: both ranked and for Alice Garov. I guess this is

1349
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Speaker 5: what you're supposed to do against a short notice guy.

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Speaker 5: Moving on up your thoughts, on Ikram Malascaro maximizing the

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Speaker 5: showcase this week.

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Speaker 1: He's a beast man, He's a beast. He knows how

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01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: to put it all together. Orley Alvez is a very

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Speaker 1: dangerous fighter. He's a guy that also gets a lot

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Speaker 1: of things done in round one. But Alice Garraff just

1356
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: has too many tools. Man, He's too clean, he's too smart,

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01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, did exactly what he was supposed to do,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes that is very difficult to do as a

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Speaker 1: professional athlete, especially in the fight game with everything that's

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Speaker 1: going on. So Alice garav is summer to watch for sure.

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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised to see him fighting for

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Speaker 1: the belt or winning the belt at some point. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I want to see him against

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Speaker 1: the elite that division. Yeah, I think he's ready, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I just want to see him tested against a better

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Speaker 1: fighter before I go all in on him. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's someone to watch for sure. Middleweight is very

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Speaker 1: interesting right now.

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Speaker 5: Jared Cannoneer among the names who has been in this

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Speaker 5: mix to potentially step in late, but he is actually

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01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 5: on the men now torn MCL and he's going to

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Speaker 5: have surgery. Polo Costa is going to factor in some

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Speaker 5: sort of equation here. Maybe they rebook a fight between

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Speaker 5: Polo Costa and Ikramala. Scairov. Drake is DUPLUSI of course

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Speaker 5: is out there. Maybe he bides his time and waits

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Speaker 5: for a title fight. I think Robert Whittaker is going

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Speaker 5: to get a big fight fight at some point in time.

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Speaker 5: And Whittaker represents a huge fight for all of these guys,

1379
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Speaker 5: and he's going to have a lot to prove as well.

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Speaker 5: So middleweight could not be in a better place. And uh,

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Speaker 5: the same can be said for welterweight. And it gives

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Speaker 5: us great pleasure right now to transition to the UFC's

1383
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Speaker 5: welterweight division and bring in a man whose time is

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Speaker 5: super valuable and we appreciate it very much. The number

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Speaker 5: eleven ranked welterweight in the world at present had Mashado. Gary,

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Speaker 5: my friend, it's an absolute pleasure to have a quarter

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Speaker 5: of an hour of your time today. I believe you're

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Speaker 5: in Iceland, so is that accurate?

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Speaker 3: You know we're back in the UK.

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Speaker 4: Now we're back in the UK. We travel too much,

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Speaker 4: so we changed too many places.

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Speaker 5: I'm so grateful of your time today, So for those

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Speaker 5: that are not tracking your every move on Instagram the

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Speaker 5: way I am. Let's go to the geyser. This is

1395
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 5: mad from Laila, Like, so what just happened? What inspired

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Speaker 5: you guys to maybe stare death in the face in

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Speaker 5: Iceland at a geezer? A geyser like two days ago.

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Speaker 4: So we went to Iceland because we wanted to go

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Speaker 4: and train and travel. And you know how my brain works.

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Speaker 4: I just want to learn, I want to grow, and

1401
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 4: I want to soak in as much knowledge as possible.

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01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 4: I'm a two hour flight from Glenn and Elson is

1403
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Speaker 4: one of the best rapplers the Wealthyway Divisions ever seen.

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Speaker 4: So why wouldn't I jump over there and learn from

1405
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Speaker 4: him and train with them and chop it up and

1406
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Speaker 4: just pick his brain. And while you're there, why not

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Speaker 4: try and do the touristuf While you're in Iceland. There's

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01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 4: some geezers, there's alcano, there's someone says the Northern Lights.

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Speaker 3: We tried to see some of them.

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Speaker 1: We enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: It was it was it was a fun time. It

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Speaker 3: was good to be able to learn and train. So

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Speaker 3: if you ever get a chance to go out there,

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Speaker 3: bring a jacket, bring a hot bring it golls and yeah,

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Speaker 3: expect cold.

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Speaker 1: That's cool, man, I've always wanted to go to Iceland.

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Speaker 1: How was the experience trading with Gunny and his gym

1418
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Speaker 1: is pretty legendary, man, It's like one of the biggest

1419
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: gyms I've seen in the world. For sure, A mulener

1420
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Speaker 1: over there. But how was that whole experience? Man?

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Speaker 4: It's it's such a beautiful gym, Like it's literally in

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01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 4: the in the built into the side of like volcanic rock. Like,

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Speaker 4: it's unbelievably cool, and it's literally in a mountain. It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: It's an awesome gym. It's a beautiful facility. And he

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01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 4: should be very proud of himself, which I know he is.

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Speaker 4: But it was awesome able to go over there and

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Speaker 4: chop it up with and learn with him, pick his

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01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 4: brain on some jiu jitsu moves and just yeah, it's

1429
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 4: always good being able to travel and train with such

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Speaker 4: a lead talent.

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Speaker 1: Where do you see your off at this point in

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Speaker 1: your career? I love the attitude you're always kind of

1433
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Speaker 1: traveling all over the place trying to learn as much

1434
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Speaker 1: as possible. I don't know, how do you assess where

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Speaker 1: you're going to go and what you're going to work on.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just kind of want want a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a clarity on that, because it's it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people like kind of staying in one place,

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01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: but you're traveling all over, So, uh, where's the you

1440
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Speaker 1: know what?

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Speaker 6: I mean?

1442
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Speaker 4: What right? If you make up every single day, goes

1443
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 4: to the same gym, to the same schedule, training the

1444
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 4: same people, where's the growth? You can there's a seed,

1445
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 4: there's a ceiling, there's a roof, and if you're in

1446
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 4: that gym, if you're in that same place, there's a

1447
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 4: roof that you will hit and you will become the

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Speaker 4: best guy in that gym. I want to travel the

1449
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Speaker 4: world and train with so many elite talented I go.

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Speaker 4: When I go to jim, I don't expect to be

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Speaker 4: the best person in that gym. When I just trade

1452
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 4: at jiu jitsu with someone, I don't expect to be

1453
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 4: the best like grappler on the planet. I should be

1454
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 4: getting beaten by world champion grapplers, do you know?

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Speaker 3: I mean I should be. But that's how you learn,

1456
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 3: un how you grow.

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 4: If I'm walking into the same gym every day and

1458
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 4: beating the same people, and I know what they do,

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01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 4: I know what they don't like.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense for me to grow with the

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Speaker 3: best fire I possibly can be. So that's that's why

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Speaker 3: I think. I think it's boring.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's fun. The idea of traveling I've

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01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 4: been this is my plan right now. I just went

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Speaker 4: to Barcelona and trained with Damian Meyer. I then went

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Speaker 4: to Manchester to go to the Logan Park k a

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Speaker 4: sci fi to watch it for a little bit of fun.

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Speaker 3: See what the see what all the hype is about.

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Speaker 3: And then I went straight from there and jumped on

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Speaker 3: a plane to Iceland to go see Gunn and Nelson.

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Speaker 4: That that versus being in the same place around the

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Speaker 4: same people twenty four to seven sounds way more enjoyable

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Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 3: But then you're adding the growth aspect and the learning ability.

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Speaker 4: I've been able to travel and pick up one piece

1476
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Speaker 4: of advice from Damian Meyer, one piece of advice from

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Speaker 4: Gunn and Elson and add that to your game. You

1478
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,799
Speaker 4: have to understand that that is gonna be a better fighter.

1479
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 4: You have to understand that the man who is traveling

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01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 4: and look, people don't understand how much time and effort

1481
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 4: and money and everything goes into traveling like I do

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01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 4: it because it's an adventures. It's an adventure that's exciting

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01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 4: for the entire family and not just myself. Being able

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01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 4: to see different cultures, being able to see such natural

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01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 4: beauty of different places, but also learn.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome and you have to invest in yourself and

1487
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 3: traveling the world and learning from all these people.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna pay dividends when I am the undisputed champion

1489
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 4: for years and years to come, until I inevitably sit

1490
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Speaker 4: there and say I'm done.

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Speaker 3: Cela to take care guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And if you don't know the Future Team Future

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01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 5: has a full time strength and conditioning coach, Brandon Gallagher

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Speaker 5: Gallagher it probably is.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to fuck that name up.

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01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 5: Curtis Pike has been brought on as head of creative

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Speaker 5: obviously Layelah spearheading a whole lot of things. It's amazing

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Speaker 5: what you all are doing as far as the merchandise

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Speaker 5: and everything else. If you want to follow them on Instagram.

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01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 5: By the way, it is at Ian Gary So I

1501
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 5: was doing a Q and A with Blah Muhammad and

1502
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 5: Abu Dhabi and this sort of speaks in parts of

1503
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 5: Kenny's question about where you are right now relative to

1504
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 5: your fighting prime. Bill I was asked about the toughest

1505
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 5: matchups for him in the division, and the first two

1506
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 5: names he mentioned were Shavkot Rochmanov and Ian Garrett. And

1507
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 5: that's essentially the number one contender right now who hasn't

1508
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 5: lost since twenty nineteen, suggesting you right now are right

1509
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 5: there alongside the top guys in the world. Now, nothing

1510
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 5: you have done to this point in the UFC surprises yourself.

1511
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 5: But do you not already consider yourself one of the

1512
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,799
Speaker 5: best in the world, even if you're playing things according

1513
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 5: to your own timeline.

1514
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 4: I already I'm one of the best in the world.

1515
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 4: You can ask any of the guys I've trained with.

1516
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 4: They you go to Ama, You've.

1517
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 3: Talked to them, you've seen them.

1518
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: They all know.

1519
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 4: Everybody knows. Anybody who have ever trained that knows how

1520
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 4: good I am. It's about coming in there improving it,

1521
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 4: because there's people that in the gym they shine, and

1522
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 4: then when it comes to flying night, they don't perform

1523
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 4: as well as they do. If anything, I get ten

1524
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 4: minuts better. I go in there with such an energy

1525
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 4: and an excitement to go out there on the biggest

1526
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 4: platform that we have in this sport and prove how

1527
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 4: good I am to everyone. And I do it because

1528
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 4: I have a massive ego that I want to fulfill.

1529
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 4: I'm going out to improve and how how right I

1530
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 4: was when I was a kid who decided to quit college,

1531
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 4: who decided to go and pursue my dream that I

1532
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 4: can do this.

1533
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 3: So every time I step into.

1534
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: The golden.

1535
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 5: Looks like we just lost Ian momentarily. And when we're

1536
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 5: done with me and today, I'm actually going to sort

1537
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 5: of tell you a little bit about his story.

1538
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: And I guess now, oh he's back.

1539
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 4: I got you.

1540
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: You good, I got you.

1541
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you're gone, actually, I'm going to tell your

1542
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 5: whole story, so don't worry, you know, on the back

1543
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 5: side of this interview.

1544
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: And it's incredible.

1545
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 4: But for me, I get to going to improve a point,

1546
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 4: and that to me is exciting. So when I hear

1547
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 4: someone like Baala Mohammad sit there and say that I

1548
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 4: am one of the talkfest tests in the division, He's

1549
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 4: not wrong. I'm long, I'm lanky, I'm fast, I'm look,

1550
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 4: there is no one in the division, I'd argue as

1551
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 4: no one that you see as quick as me, and

1552
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 4: you have to see it in real time to understand

1553
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 4: if there's a reason I can kick Neil Magne in

1554
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 4: the calf forty six times repeatedly because he can't see

1555
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 4: the fucking kick because boom and it's gone. He's like, well,

1556
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 4: how did I get kicked again in that same spot?

1557
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 4: So where I am in my career, in my career

1558
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 4: is exactly where I should be. I'm a prospect who's

1559
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 4: turning into a contender and it's proving to the world

1560
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 4: just how talented I am. Proven to the world just

1561
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 4: how serious I'm about this. But also I'm doing it

1562
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 4: very differently to everyone else. To your point, John, I

1563
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 4: have got a full time standing editionary coach who travels

1564
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 4: the world in the trends that over the next year

1565
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 4: is going to be with the biggest.

1566
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 3: Differences in my in my athletic career, just from like

1567
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 3: injury prevention, strength, speed, cardio, to be able to.

1568
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 4: Train off camp Azilla's in camp every single day and

1569
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 4: to grow that's going to be massive. I've got a

1570
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 4: full time nutritionist who cooks me food and it shows

1571
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 4: on my body is working at the optimum, just optimum,

1572
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 4: all year round. And now we've got, like, as you say,

1573
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 4: the family we've got, the future family we've got.

1574
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 3: My wife was a whole different ballgame. When we talk

1575
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 3: about creative.

1576
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,560
Speaker 4: Content and everything, Afer and Curtis, who is ahead of

1577
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 4: my creative content, those two just go off and a

1578
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 4: whole different into a whole different realm and create this

1579
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: amazing footage. But it's amazing because of the life and

1580
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 4: the training that we do. We live, we travel, we grow,

1581
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 4: and we show the world, and we want to show everything,

1582
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 4: everything to the.

1583
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 3: Fans because it's exciting. I want people to be invested

1584
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 3: in this career.

1585
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 5: You have a wisdom that so belies your years on

1586
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 5: this planet. It's amazing to think what our conversations about

1587
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 5: fighting might hold when you're thirty five years of age.

1588
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 5: I remember this kid coming into our first fighter meeting

1589
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 5: and I'm running out of room on my fighter car

1590
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 5: because you're offering up so many thoughtful things. And I

1591
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 5: remember one quote you said, cardio is my main weapon,

1592
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 5: and nobody even recognized as sort of that part of things.

1593
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 5: Your son Leo, as part of this traveling circus, seems

1594
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 5: like he has the right disposition for you guys to

1595
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 5: do this. I mean, he looks eponentially happier than any

1596
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 5: of my children ever looked at it.

1597
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 3: This kid, honestly so, he just turned one. It's just

1598
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 3: bet his birthday.

1599
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 4: And he in his three hundred and sixty five days

1600
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 4: of traveling around the world, has traveled on about forty flights.

1601
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 4: And that is like to and from like he has

1602
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 4: been all over the world. This kid has seen more,

1603
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 4: more corners of the earth and most most adult time.

1604
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 4: It's it's it's obviously exciting, but he does.

1605
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 1: He just loves it.

1606
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 4: You can see this kid when he gets onto right,

1607
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 4: when he gets on, Oh my god, look at this.

1608
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 3: Look at what he's going. This is him.

1609
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 1: That's his hand.

1610
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 4: Yes, he goes into my bag, he goes and Hi,

1611
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 4: say hi, say hi.

1612
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 3: Leo goes into my bag.

1613
01:14:55,240 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 4: He'll bang, He'll bang on my suitcase and he go,

1614
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 4: I'll put it up, and he pull out my pads,

1615
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 4: and he pull out my gloves.

1616
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna own my kids.

1617
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: It's amazing kid.

1618
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 3: He loves us. We went to train up with Phil

1619
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 3: Rowan Orlandos. When I got the news that Jeff Neil pulled.

1620
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 4: Out right and we have to change to Neil Magnie

1621
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 4: and I was like, right, find me the closest guy

1622
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 4: stylistically and attribute wise to Neo Magnie. Let me go,

1623
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 4: let me go figure this out. So that's exactly what

1624
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 4: we did. Leo gets onto the mats, crawls over to

1625
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 4: the corner to Matt banging at a bag for half

1626
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 4: an hour.

1627
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, kids, won seat twelve.

1628
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 3: He eats well, he's happy, He's exactly like his daddy.

1629
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

1630
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 5: So we sit here Ian on October twenty third. Your

1631
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 5: fight with Vicente Luke at UFC two ninety six is

1632
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 5: December sixteenth. I believe at times we've maybe talked about

1633
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 5: some actual roots brick and mortar for you guys in

1634
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 5: Brazil if you were to actually hone in on one

1635
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 5: particular place. But as we sit here about two months out,

1636
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 5: maybe seven weeks, what can you tell us about what

1637
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 5: these next seven weeks are going to hold for you

1638
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 5: before the next step in your career.

1639
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 4: So I'm going to keep training for the next week

1640
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 4: in the UK, then we have to go off to

1641
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 4: the Dominican Republic where Leila has work for Karate Combat yep.

1642
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 4: And then from the Dominican Republic we're going to go

1643
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 4: straight to shoot the box. But as you, I'm going

1644
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 4: to train with the boys and shoot the box, and

1645
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 4: I'm going to spend a month with Damian May improving

1646
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 4: my jiu jitsu, working on fundamentals and just fixing and

1647
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 4: growing and learning jiu jitsu from the best. I give

1648
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 4: you the best grappler that UFC has ever seen. So

1649
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 4: that's what I'm going to do. And then I'm going

1650
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 4: to go in there on December sixteenth and do whatever

1651
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 4: the fuck I want to do when I'm in the fight,

1652
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 4: because I can.

1653
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 3: That's true.

1654
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 5: I'm so excited to see this matchup. We have a

1655
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 5: few very quick fan questions for you on the way out.

1656
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 5: This one from Tim Wheaton MMA. Can we expect more

1657
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 5: pub training sessions that in reference to what you did?

1658
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 5: I believe after the ceremony away and on Friday night

1659
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 5: in Boston, Massachusetts? This is going to go down in

1660
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 5: the history books. I guess you'd have to do it

1661
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 5: selectively given the city. But is that something we might

1662
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 5: see again?

1663
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 3: You not how bad us? That was?

1664
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 5: Oh dude, in our hometown, bro, Like, thank you man.

1665
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 4: It was so cool, Like there was a point that way,

1666
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 4: there was so many people if anyone hasn't seen it,

1667
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 4: go check out my Instagram story, scroll down and find

1668
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 4: out this what.

1669
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 3: Happened at this pool. But I did an open workout

1670
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 3: the night before my flight.

1671
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 4: Find the energy that you can just gather from that

1672
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 4: room from people who are excited by the UFC back

1673
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 4: in Boston, From the energy that you get from that people,

1674
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 4: how can you not go out there and do it again?

1675
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 3: Just just thrive. So absolutely, I don't know if we'll

1676
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 3: do it in Vain. I don't know what the plan

1677
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 3: is yet.

1678
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 6: We haven't even thought about that.

1679
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 3: We're figuring out where it's going to be, who we're

1680
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 3: going to train it, what's gonna happen.

1681
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 4: But I would absolutely you sit down and say, yes,

1682
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 4: you're gonna figure something out, because it's too kill.

1683
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 5: Not to r Yeah, if you're doing one in Vegas,

1684
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 5: I may stop what I'm doing and show my face

1685
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 5: over there.

1686
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: You don't have to answer this one.

1687
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 5: But from at the future MMA, who does Ian want

1688
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 5: after he finishes Vicente Luke, I'd imagine you guys have

1689
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 5: a course in your head, but.

1690
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: May not want to reveal it right now.

1691
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1692
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's.

1693
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 4: Here's the thing anybody who's ranked above me, anybody whose

1694
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 4: number when I finished that fight is ranked hired me

1695
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 4: is an opponent and it just has to see. Right,

1696
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 4: we sit down and we look at it. I've called

1697
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 4: wonder Boy out, he said no to you multiple times.

1698
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 4: Is the UC Dublin card gonna manifest? Come and put

1699
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 4: me and Wonder Boy on a main event in UFC

1700
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 4: Dublin in front of the Irish crowd and bring it

1701
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 4: back to Dublin Island.

1702
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 3: Why not if.

1703
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 4: Colby goes out there and gets stashed by Leon, who's

1704
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 4: he gonna fight next?

1705
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 3: Let me go and then tump them out of him.

1706
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 4: You've got he's just come on off a loss against Shafka,

1707
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:55,839
Speaker 4: against Kamza.

1708
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not give me him? Go out there and

1709
01:18:58,360 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, Comack couldn't finish him?

1710
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: What all do some do?

1711
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1712
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1713
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, anybody that's above me, they are all opponents. That's

1714
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 4: why you have to look at this. I am excited.

1715
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 4: I am excited by the potential to fight every single

1716
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 4: one of these guys above me because I've been a fan.

1717
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 3: I know I get to see it and go right.

1718
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 4: I watched you guys for years, I've always sat down

1719
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 4: on the couch and said, I reckon, someone do this

1720
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 4: that can beat them.

1721
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 3: Watch you're gonna see it unfold. You had the best

1722
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 3: seat in now.

1723
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: John, I know brother well.

1724
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 5: And also and we haven't even talked about your golf game,

1725
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 5: but some of your bravado just hides this humility and

1726
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 5: this appetite for knowledge, and those of us that actually

1727
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 5: get to spend time with you just know how sophisticated

1728
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 5: a mind you have for this stuff. So I'm very

1729
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 5: excited to see your progression, as you know that we

1730
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 5: are very appreciative of your of your time. Before I

1731
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 5: let you go, this from Millsap under scortch Well, what

1732
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 5: is your favorite martial art to train?

1733
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 4: Like?

1734
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 5: I don't see jiu jitsu as a gentle art. I

1735
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 5: see it as the opposite of gentle. I hated my

1736
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 5: few months on the mat. It seems like you love

1737
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 5: going and torturing yourself with like Diego Lima and Goonner

1738
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 5: Nelson and Damien Matt. But what's your favorite martial arts

1739
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 5: to train?

1740
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 4: So I am I am always always from deep deep

1741
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 4: within my body. I am always going to be a

1742
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 4: striker or heart because the chess game that you can

1743
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 4: play with people on the feet. My entire game is

1744
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 4: built off my brain. It's built off when I move right,

1745
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 4: where does your body go? When I move left? Where

1746
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 4: do your feet go? Where do your hands go? How

1747
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 4: does your neck move? And I see all of these

1748
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 4: reads and I compute them on a compute them and

1749
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 4: then I fire on something. So for me, my favorite

1750
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 4: is always going to be striking because of the destructive

1751
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 4: power you can have with your limbs to literally sleep

1752
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 4: a man and put him on and make him move

1753
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 4: his body into that position. I'm not the person to

1754
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 4: you with fifteen straight shots.

1755
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 3: Down the line and go oh, I knocked him out

1756
01:20:59,320 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 3: by rushing them.

1757
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 4: I'm going to clinically, beautifully and violently saint and make

1758
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 4: you lean your head off to the side, or make

1759
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 4: you dip and eat a knee and knock you unconscious.

1760
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 3: That for me, has to be the most beautiful.

1761
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 4: Part of striking and technique, and the most beautiful part

1762
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 4: of any man is the chess game. When you have

1763
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 4: with another man on the feet, he's trying to hit you,

1764
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 4: you're not getting hit, and then you crack them unconscious.

1765
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 5: It always feels bigger having your name on the card.

1766
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 5: He fights Vicente Luke live on pay per view at

1767
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 5: UFC two ninety six December sixteenth. Oh dude, I didn't

1768
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 5: talk about the video game, and I might get fired

1769
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 5: actually from voice in the video game for doing this.

1770
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: But Bro, I have to ask you.

1771
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 5: I hate if I'm putting you on the spot like

1772
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 5: I'm actually doing more voice over work for the game

1773
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 5: in a couple of weeks here, and maybe that's going

1774
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 5: to get me fired too. Do you know the answer

1775
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 5: right now as to whether or not you are in

1776
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:51,560
Speaker 5: the video game or not?

1777
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,799
Speaker 3: No, I don't know, and I'm fucking livid.

1778
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 6: Why happens I in it?

1779
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: All right? No, I don't know the answer.

1780
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 5: Okay, not suggesting that I can affect change as far

1781
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 5: as this is concerned, But dude, the fan appetite to

1782
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 5: play with you in this game, as you might expect,

1783
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 5: is off the charts. So any power that I can

1784
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 5: possibly wield in three weeks in New York City, I'm

1785
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 5: gonna try to make it happen. I think you're probably

1786
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 5: already in the fucking game, though.

1787
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 3: Bro, I have better be. I don't think I am.

1788
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 3: I think my starting inditionally go its pointed out that

1789
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not on the rock all think about it.

1790
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 4: I've commented on that thing twice because I've seen like

1791
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 4: New Fighter drop and.

1792
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, you have a fuck he gets at it

1793
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 3: and I'm not in it. You having a laugh, But

1794
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 3: here the fuck wants.

1795
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 4: To fight with that guy.

1796
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 3: No one goes, Oh my god, I'm gonna tell I'm

1797
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 3: gonna get the PlayStation. I'm going I'm gonna buy UFC

1798
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 3: five and I'm gonna play with fucking so and So.

1799
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 4: I know for a fact that what I do, the

1800
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 4: way I compete, the way I talk, this, this the

1801
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 4: bravado that I have around me.

1802
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 3: I know people like my fighting. So I know people

1803
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 3: like watching me because I get told it everywhere in

1804
01:22:59,200 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 3: the world.

1805
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 4: I go, do you understand how good it would be

1806
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 4: to see me in a fucking video game with that

1807
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 4: Irish fucking flag gunner and just everyone in the world

1808
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 4: playing with me.

1809
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 3: That's what we need e a sports a mental not

1810
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 3: putting me in that game.

1811
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. This is where I have a

1812
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 4: massive video This is where people chip away at me with.

1813
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 3: Something that pisses me off. Right, you're gonna like this.

1814
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 3: I am going to guarantee you. Guarantee you is a

1815
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 3: deal between me and you.

1816
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 4: All right, next two years, I'm on their cover. That's

1817
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 4: how good I am. Yeah, next two years, I'll be

1818
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 4: on their cover. And i'd better be or I'm telling

1819
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 4: them I'm not in the game.

1820
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: Hey, take me.

1821
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 5: I would actually I would be on that side of

1822
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 5: the bed. I would not at all be surprised to

1823
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 5: see you be the cover boy in a couple of years.

1824
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 5: And I do think it's an eventuality that you're in

1825
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 5: EA Sports UFC five. I'll see what I can do,

1826
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 5: but for now, please follow what Ian's doing at Ian

1827
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 5: Gary on Instagram. Any final words, Champ before we let

1828
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 5: you go.

1829
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 3: Hey, you got me hyped the video.

1830
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 5: I hope I didn't get myself fired, but uh no,

1831
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 5: fu this now I need to really stick it to them.

1832
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to be top ten in the world. Yeah,

1833
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 3: I mean I'm top ten in the world. I'm want

1834
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: to us exciting fighters on the planet. I'm on the

1835
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 3: fucking game.

1836
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: Get We're going to get the game.

1837
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 3: How beautiful I am?

1838
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: Your handsome posture is.

1839
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 6: My shape.

1840
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 4: Walking around this world? And they are in the game, right,

1841
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 4: I know.

1842
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 5: I think the graphic designer would enjoy drawing you very much.

1843
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 5: Ian Mashadow, Gary, safe travels, my man. Look forward to

1844
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 5: giving you a hog guy in Vegas in December. Very appreciate,

1845
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 5: very much. Appreciate your time today, sir. We'll see in

1846
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 5: a few weeks.

1847
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you guys, thank you for having me on.

1848
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 3: I will see you soon.

1849
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 4: It's a socks cut, but as always John, everybody's going

1850
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 4: to be talking about me.

1851
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: Come to my brother. I don't doubt it.

1852
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 7: There he is.

1853
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 5: Thank you, my man, guys, I really appreciate it. Ian

1854
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 5: Shadow Gary with us here on the Anakin Florian podcast. Kenny,

1855
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 5: he's your type of fighter, man like, he's your type

1856
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 5: of fighter. He's a thinking man's fire. Hard work is

1857
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 5: not an issue for Ian machade O'gary. He learned that

1858
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 5: at a very young age. And I don't know, I

1859
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 5: just have in my notes. He's your type of guy, dude.

1860
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely dude. I love the fact that he's willing to

1861
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: go and put his ego aside and just do what

1862
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 1: he needs to do to get better and train with

1863
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 1: whoever it is. And I love it. I love it. Man.

1864
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: He seems committed to the game. He has huge goals.

1865
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: But it's not just all talk. He's out there, he's

1866
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: doing the work. Everything he's done has been very impressive

1867
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: so far. Another big fight for him ahead soon and

1868
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: I expect a good result from that one as well.

1869
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 5: Especially when it comes to the grappling and the grappling details.

1870
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 5: I've heard you say so much even getting one detail

1871
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 5: from Ryan Hall, and I think Corey Sandhagen has referenced

1872
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 5: that right, So to get one detail from Damian Maya,

1873
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 5: to get one from Gunner Nelson, I think you'll probably

1874
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 5: find him at fifty to fifty with Ryan Hall at

1875
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 5: some point in the not too distant future as well.

1876
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 5: The appetite for knowledge is off the charts, and so

1877
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 5: much of the sort of the public perception of Ian Mushadow.

1878
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,560
Speaker 5: Gary is just brash, young and people just have no

1879
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 5: idea how good he is and how rooted in all

1880
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 5: of this he is, and real quickly in terms of

1881
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 5: his backstory, Judo was his first martial art right, but

1882
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 5: one of these kids who grew up in Ireland during

1883
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 5: the rise of Conor McGregor, and that has inspired him

1884
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 5: to go on to these unbelievable things. Initially did not

1885
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 5: have the family support and I think that has been

1886
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 5: slow and steady since, but a tremendous support system, massive

1887
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 5: investment in his own career. And thanks to Mike Vespa

1888
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 5: and Leila everybody at Banter Sports for setting that up

1889
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 5: with Ianmashadow Gary. Today, all right, that is going to

1890
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 5: do it. We might be back later in the week

1891
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 5: with some bonus content as well. But thank you to

1892
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 5: Ian Mashado Gary, thank you to Ray Longo. Our executive

1893
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Speaker 5: and you get the followed x dot com And we

1898
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 5: appreciate the support everybody else. And to my lovely sister

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Speaker 5: in law Amanda, I love you. I look forward to

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Speaker 5: seeing you at the hospital later today. For kemp plum

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01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,240
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Speaker 1: Until then, you'll let.

1905
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Speaker 3: God yeah.

1906
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 4: Go shit.

1907
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: Are you sure? We're down in the Boston. Listen.

1908
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1909
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 9: Now every time I started first up breaking these three commandments,

1910
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 9: kind of like Judo because I.

1911
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 6: Never planned it.

1912
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 3: I'm go plan this shit.

1913
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 9: Look wait, they make the patches look like their own branches.

1914
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: This is there the boy your blood the only color

1915
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: on the canvas. And I don't mean it's like a

1916
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: thought sense of how you could get.

1917
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 9: God hook being tim hip hop. You got it every

1918
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 9: time you walk in the label the A. I was

1919
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 9: like Noddy immune leadership because I suckle sickle.

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Speaker 1: Guy got it.

1921
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 9: Body heat is the toxically gotta beat out on Godess

1922
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 9: your compact started thinks like the climate this speak and

1923
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 9: speak elitiously off the high horse making acid abuse. Your

1924
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 9: DJ must not know the alphabet forgetting this cube. My

1925
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 9: favorite DJ got those in six extra helfield abuse as

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01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 9: the vic John P and I'm the nuclear school. I'm

1927
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 9: ready to hell. It's nice reach you show what form

1928
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 9: styles Eagles sent your Lego shippers went frequent plass Miles.

1929
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 3: C J wanted to get into burd and get it

1930
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,560
Speaker 3: in the murden at Burgh thinking the God either you

1931
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 3: want to send it or the su we got committals

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Speaker 3: or the super