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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with

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Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot

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Speaker 1: everything cannabis. Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on

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Speaker 1: you get your podcast. We have an amazing show for

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Speaker 1: you today. A little brother is not here again. What's

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Speaker 1: going on with that dude? He's actually in l A.

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Speaker 1: They started court up again. He went this morning thirty

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Speaker 1: and they kicked it over to the afternoon. It happens

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Speaker 1: all the time. It really just there. He's there on

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Speaker 1: a case. Actually the case the guy who represent was

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Speaker 1: a guy standing in front of the liquor store. He

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Speaker 1: just finished taking some hits. A cop comes allegedly, no,

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Speaker 1: he was taking hands. A cop came up, and my

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Speaker 1: brother says the guy barely spoke English, but the cop

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Speaker 1: came up, asked him about the smell, patted him down,

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Speaker 1: then gave him a misdemeanor citation. Per solicitate. Jenni Oral said, wait,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean? So that's the ticket. The case

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Speaker 1: has not been filed. So when the cops give you

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be filed for up to a year

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Speaker 1: for misdemeanor. Let me so he's waiting for the city

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Speaker 1: attorney to a come so he can say, hey, we

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Speaker 1: were here. When you file it, send my office notice.

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Speaker 1: And the cops said he couldn't speak too good of English,

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Speaker 1: so maybe he said, hey, what are you doing? He said,

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Speaker 1: and he thought that meant oral sex. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that was the brief text from my brother.

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Speaker 1: So the guy the guys that I can't give you

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Speaker 1: any more detail. No, no, I'm just saying just just

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Speaker 1: to re track what you already said. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: guy was smoking to joint. The cop runs up and

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Speaker 1: says to him, you know, I'm talking about just just

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Speaker 1: what about the smell? Can you pat somebody down over

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Speaker 1: being in front of a liquor store and just taking

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Speaker 1: a couple of hits? Is that worthy of that? Funny?

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Speaker 1: You mentioned that because I have got a great story

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Speaker 1: on the news regarding pat downs. Well, why don't we

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Speaker 1: get to right now? I mean, Mike Kelly is here

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Speaker 1: from Falcon Aloha, Mike. But I think Mike wants to

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Speaker 1: hear this story, don't you, buddy. I mean, let's let's

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Speaker 1: hear the story. You can't tease us with that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so take up Mike's time. Why don't you first of all? Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you guys a story. But will wait.

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Speaker 1: We'll just have Mike philling every day for for your

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Speaker 1: little brother, and that'll be just fine. He has better

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Speaker 1: than the Fourth Amendment. Fourth Amendment generally prohibits police from

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Speaker 1: searching an individual absent a warrant or probable cause. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's that's just a fact. So there's Fourth Amendment, the

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Speaker 1: Fourth Amendment. There's a court case called Terry versus Ohio nine.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court established a narrow and narrowly drawn exception

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Speaker 1: to this prohibition. So they're saying, if these circumstances exist,

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Speaker 1: a warrant quote unquote probable cause for this. Well, the

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Speaker 1: a police officer, which is always bs because it's always

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Speaker 1: I felt no times of cod really is in danger,

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Speaker 1: bree with that. It's supposed to be. It's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be specific, specific insarticulable facts, so something very specificable. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's articable? Now? It's what is that a real thing?

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Speaker 1: Art articulable? What is our talk that me? I don't

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Speaker 1: gubernatorial another bigger. You're just acting like a lawyer and

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Speaker 1: You know. I had his hands in his pocket. Penus,

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Speaker 1: Artable means capable of being expressed, explained, or just spide.

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Speaker 1: They want to know what happened in this US sport.

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Speaker 1: If we're going to use the word affect cannabis users rights,

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Speaker 1: Sorry for you feeling attacked. I didn't want to attack you,

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Speaker 1: Circuit held that petitioner, that's the person who was convicted

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Speaker 1: and in this case, they happen to find a gun

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Speaker 1: just can't go pat them down. Yeah, you can't be.

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Speaker 1: held it's not good enough did someone have marijuana on

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court refused to take the case up on appeal.

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Speaker 1: He kept his hands visible, avoided sudden movements, error rated

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Speaker 1: you know, and and you know, it's it's it's a

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00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing to see. I see a lot

424
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: of these companies and it's like you got the canvas people,

425
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: then you've got the corporate people, and like this corporate

426
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: mentality they come in like you just gotta be a shark,

427
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: you gotta be a beast. We're gonna we're gonna destroy

428
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: this other company. And you know, I've always done good business.

429
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm I've always been considered like the nicest guy in cannabis,

430
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: and I've always done well and being so and I

431
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: just that mentality, I think just doesn't belong in cannabis.

432
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: And any time operator, owner, operator, or dispensary or grow

433
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: or dispensary or district goes under, it looks bad for

434
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: the whole community. In my opinion. You know that we're failing,

435
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 1: and it just you know, it sucks to see that happening. Well,

436
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: you know, I mean the other side of that coin is,

437
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: as we've counseled clients who want to get into the

438
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: game at whatever level it is, it was just cool

439
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: your jets a little bit and you're gonna be able

440
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: to buy up some ship because these corporations coming in

441
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: putting a shipload of money and not necessarily knowing what

442
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 1: the funk they're doing. And you know, they're putting seven

443
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: million and having to sell it for three because they

444
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: they didn't finish it or they don't have the wherewithal

445
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: once it's finished to do the product right or to

446
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: get the product out. I mean, it's just it's you know,

447
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: and we're representing a lot of people coming in buying

448
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: up stuff that it's just funny to see and hear

449
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: that story Blue that you told so well as we're

450
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: talking to Aloha, Mike a k A Mike Kelly from

451
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: Falcon and hearing that story and then you rebuttal with

452
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: being there a k A nice guy and cannabis. Is

453
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: that way you would attribute to a great path of

454
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: success in this industry because as people are trying to

455
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: get in this industry, a lot of people think, quote

456
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: unquote the business mentality, like you said, is to you know,

457
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: be a shark or corners and do whatever you gotta

458
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: do to just make it happen. It's terrible and you know,

459
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: you see that in a lot of these other industries,

460
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: and I think now that it's bleeding over to cannabis,

461
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: it's just been been really rough. You know. I get

462
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: a lot of these consulting opportunities and I go into

463
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: these places where they've spent six seven million dollars on

464
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: the lab and they have no business, and they go,

465
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: but we knew we would build this thing, and everybody

466
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: would just flock to us to to work with us.

467
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, who does that in any community, any

468
00:23:54,160 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 1: business that where you don't have contacts. It's moving this

469
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: and they will come feel the dreams the movie exactly.

470
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: There's a Disney folks. Well, I mean, you know, I

471
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: think what a big part of it is is that

472
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: you have institutional money that's coming in from you know,

473
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: their lower hanging fruit operators right there, like oh here,

474
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, go get it started, young man. And they're

475
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 1: pushing these people that don't know in the industry. They're

476
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: walking into it and go, we got the money, we're

477
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: coming in. They come in and they don't have contacts,

478
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: they don't have any credibility. They don't really understand even

479
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: how a pound breaks down to a to a graham

480
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: or even you know whatever. They like everything they don't

481
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: understand it all, but and they're so blind to it,

482
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: then they're naive, and then they're sold on the numbers

483
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: because the numbers are what's selling these these investors. I

484
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: know that because I've seen it. You know, I've seen

485
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: I've setten you know, consulting deals as well. And people

486
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: are sitting there going, you know, you gotta do this,

487
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: and you gotta do that, and now we're gonna hit

488
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: these numbers. And I'm like, you're out of your mind.

489
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: These multipliers when you're evaluating these companies is absurd, absurd.

490
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: We've been telling people that for a long time, from

491
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: the beginning. If it looks like it, it's bullshit. Yeah,

492
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: the magic numbers. How in the fun do you value

493
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: a license that's never done business? No, it's impossible, and

494
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: all these people are valuing you got no books, you

495
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: can't do anything. I want ten X for my company.

496
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: You're like ten X. Well, let's see your business. Let's

497
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: let's see your your p LS. What have you done?

498
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're you're accounting, and it's like, okay,

499
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: you're doing what you know? I mean, you're losing money

500
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: right now and you want but we have a license

501
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: and we don't own the building. It's like, oh, yeah,

502
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: my rent is you know, six dollars a square foot,

503
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: you know on my my eight thousand square foot Warehouse's good.

504
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that you hear these stories and just go.

505
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: And then we signed a ninety year master lease or

506
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: some bullshit like that, like or the opposite there or

507
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: the opposite. They come into us to review the lease

508
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I'm like, well, okay, you're

509
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: out next year. It's right, it's three year lease. Ye

510
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: million dollar building? All right? Are you kidding me? Uh no,

511
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I'm gonna put it here in

512
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: big bold letters. No, no, don't do it. Don't do it.

513
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: And we've killed a couple of deals that way because

514
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: the landlord didn't want to budge. I'm like, you're not

515
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: putting this money into this business unless you're complete moron.

516
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: I think the moral, though, is is to find the

517
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: right operators and find people that understand how to create companies.

518
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, well, they're out there, and I think the

519
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: people like like our guests, where you've been in the

520
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: industry this long, and it was an industry that was

521
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: built on handshakes and and trust. Really, I mean there

522
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: he had, you had your bad actors, had your bad

523
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: actors here and there. But for the most part, there's

524
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: a lot of brands that have been around fifteen twenty

525
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: years that are still that are doing very well in

526
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: the regulated market. And I think it's because they were

527
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: able to make that transition, you know, from the old

528
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: market into the new with the connects and contacts and

529
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: knowing people to stores and you know, get their products

530
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: out there. Said it well when he said, you know,

531
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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm known as one of the nicest

532
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: guys in cannabis. It's it's you know, I think that

533
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: there's the guys that are the sharks that come in

534
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: and they eat one time, you know what I mean.

535
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: And that's the problem. You come in, you get to eat, okay, cool,

536
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: Maybe you get a good fat belly that day, but

537
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: you're not gonna stand. You're not gonna be able to

538
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, live in the in the in the ecosystem

539
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: because people are just gonna go, you know what, these

540
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: guys suck. I've dealt with so many people that that

541
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, they pretend they're bigger and they're batter and

542
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: They've got all this money, and it's like cool, you know,

543
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: that's great. I love it. But we're constantly growing, you know,

544
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: as a company, as as a team, as an individual,

545
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: and and now I think what it is, what it takes.

546
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't take a big, you know, balloon to come

547
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: in and pop. You know, they pop quite easily. And

548
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: so these big balloons come in and they come hard,

549
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: they start eating everything they can and then people go,

550
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: you know what, these guys suck. Let's just it makes

551
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: me think about what we've talked about previously on the show.

552
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: And I'm curious, Mike Kelly, what your thoughts on are

553
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: the big farming taking over the little farming. As you know,

554
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: people are coming in with bigger money, bigger land, bigger everything.

555
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: Was saying we just wanna so call you up and

556
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: buy you outright. Do you think that's gonna happen? You know,

557
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: I think to some agree and like you heard all

558
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: these rumors like Marboro about half of the Emerald Triangle

559
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: and this and that, and you know, but at the

560
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: same time, you know what I mean. But I think

561
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, there's you know, it's

562
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: just like let's you know, you always hear this, uh

563
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: analogy of how it's compared to beer or wine. You're

564
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 1: gonna have different levels. You know, you're gonna have your

565
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: people that want something mild. You know, they're looking at

566
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: quantity over quality. If you're gonna have like a high

567
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: end you know, concentrator or high end big Brother Jack

568
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: that you gotta pay a little bigger prestion, but you're

569
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: gonna want somebody that's growing it, like in a boutique,

570
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: like a smaller grow um. You know those guys, the

571
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: clone guys there in Long Beach that do uh to

572
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: call for method Man's brand. I think they got that

573
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: little grow over there and everything is just fire, you know,

574
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: And that's I think love what method Man is doing

575
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: to It's only dealing with minority owned businesses. Brings us

576
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: up to though a lot of times about Marble coming in,

577
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: this coming in being every seven eleven. And I said

578
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: exactly exactly what you said, Mike was, you're always gonna

579
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: have your good brands, are always gonna have the people

580
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: who want that. And then you know what, maybe people

581
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: want to buy ship at seven eleven because it's mass

582
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: produced by some big corporation. I guess let them buy

583
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: their if somebody can get high off you know, a

584
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: buying a pack and you know, buying ups, like why

585
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't they get you know, that high that they want?

586
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: But people want to and you know, when we came

587
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: out with with Crew, you know, I used to do

588
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: some stuff with with Cali plug and tying those guys

589
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: and U their whole thing was like, you know, why

590
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: do you why these people gotta pay eighty dollars for

591
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: a Jungle Boys eighth. We're gonna we're gonna go do

592
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: these pop ups and we're gonna offer these exotics, you

593
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: know for five bucks a Graham, ten bucks a Graham

594
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: and I love that model. And when we came out

595
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: with Crew, were like, how do we get people, you know,

596
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: the stuff that they normally can't afford that make it affordable?

597
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: And we did that by cutting back on the packaging.

598
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: We didn't do jars, we did a little mind our

599
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: bags and just little things like that, so we can

600
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: offer those things. And it was great because that's I

601
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: think that's what we're doing so well as I wanted

602
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: to cross that line between high end and you know,

603
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: in the mid grade, and so were rights there like

604
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: in the middle so you know, there's something for everybody,

605
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: I think. And then at that point with High Garden,

606
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: we came out with you know, Light Depp and Outdoor

607
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: and um, you know that's at a much lower price

608
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: but a real good quality. So I mean, you know,

609
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing too, is you see so

610
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: many at the top. You got these top brands, you

611
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: got Connected Alien Labs or whatever. You know what I'm saying,

612
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: those those top guys, and they're all the it's like

613
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: all the same price, you know, and you're gonna always

614
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: have those guys. So as far as people coming in

615
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: and taking over like that, it depends what the market's

616
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: going to be. But you know, I've been waiting for

617
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: these giant companies that come in and buy those farms

618
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: up in North because no one is a lot of

619
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: those farmers are still hurting. A lot of these farmers

620
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: were waiting for that to happen. And the same thing

621
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: do going back to the day, it's like you just

622
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: hanging there long enough to get butt the hell out, Mike.

623
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: I think I think one you know, the part of

624
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: the story that they were saying that that they didn't

625
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: mention about what I was saying is I believe the

626
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: canopy law comes off, Okay, and so that's when the

627
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: the the infrastructure will change, Okay. I think that's when

628
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 1: we'll go federally illegal. We might go federally illegal before then,

629
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: but and everybody will think it's a big race again.

630
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's federal. So you'll have a big

631
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: influction of cash coming back in again. But I don't

632
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: think that cash is gonna be the big cash that's

633
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: really gonna move in in twenty three four. To get

634
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: ready for twenty five, hold on to to get because

635
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna expand in such a massive form, meaning this

636
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: when you go to buy lettuce, when you go to

637
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: by lettuce, he's like the biggest little kid over there

638
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: every time, and he makes fun of using. He's playing

639
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: with my ears, right, you like to interrupt? Alright, So

640
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: so so, but what ends up happening on massive farms?

641
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: These massive farms, right, are the massive acres are gonna

642
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: be bought and I think the production will start to

643
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: go into play, and they're gonna drive the price down

644
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: to fifty cents of graham, you know what I mean?

645
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: And and and so when I when I when I

646
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: listened to that The reason I believe this is because

647
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: back when we were all hunting in uh Mebrale bought

648
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: a place right next year, placing Desert Hot Springs, and

649
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm right down the street and you

650
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: guys like, what are you doing in our parking lot?

651
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm looking at this building. Where's Mike. I'm

652
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: out in the security garden. The secriticous like you know

653
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: who's going and I'm like, oh god, he's freaking me out,

654
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, But there's a building right there, right. And

655
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: I was with these Asian investors and the guys are like, hey, listen,

656
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna drive the prices down to anywhere

657
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: from cents of Graham. And I was like, it's impossible, right,

658
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: And then I'm it's impossible. But then I sat with him, right,

659
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: and they started talking about how many they're gonna have

660
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty acres with with light depreservation greenhouses,

661
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: and they've got this and that, and they started pulling

662
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: all this documentation out and they started breaking down numbers,

663
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: and I was going, these guys actually might be able

664
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: to do it, like you know what I mean, Like

665
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: I've seen some some good Yahoo's and you're pretty good

666
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: at that sound and this is what you've done. Well,

667
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I know a lot about it. I'm dangerous,

668
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm not I'm not I'm

669
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: not like to wref. They said it to me. I'm like,

670
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: well maybe I don't know for you, You're like, I

671
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: can see. Well they were talking. They were talking about

672
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: bringing in you know, massive skills, and their exact dates

673
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: were as soon as the canopy law goes. And then

674
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, what are you gonna swallow up all

675
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: these you know companies And they're like, no, the prices

676
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: are too high. They're they're buying in all the wrong

677
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: places and you know the the you know, so they're

678
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: looking at these places where you know, rents not even

679
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: an option, right, they're not worried about the property, the

680
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: price on the property. They're gonna go wipe out these

681
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: huge and you know you know what, No, no, no,

682
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about just land. They go by land and

683
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: they they farm and and they do massive greenhouses and

684
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: then they just set up shop. But now there's are

685
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: already companies that are trying to do that that aren't

686
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: They don't have the capital, they didn't have the stomach

687
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: for it, right, so they over bit, you know, and

688
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: so they're stuck with money. They run out of money.

689
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: Everyone runs out of being under capitalized. As the biggest

690
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: problem in Canada's biggest you know what this being said,

691
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: I've seen every presentation, and uh, the landscape is always changing.

692
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: If if you ask me two years ago, should I

693
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: get to grow, I'd be like, you're you're just do crack, bro,

694
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: because everyone's growing. The price is gonna drop. You're gonna

695
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: lose your ass. And look at right now it's cannabis.

696
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,479
Speaker 1: Is is more expensive than it's been in ten years,

697
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: and you know, everyone's crushing and even with the oil.

698
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: You know, when I built my first lab, I did

699
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: a pro forma showing you were selling leaders at ten ten,

700
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: ten thousand a leader. And you know, now look at leaders.

701
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean for a Cat three leader, you're looking you know,

702
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: for four grand of five grand tops, and that's in

703
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: the you know, the high nineties. I mean, it's less

704
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: than half and that's just a year ago. No one

705
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: want to dissol it. It was. It was a garbage

706
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: done deal. And now that there's more, the big pen

707
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: scares over and you've got the sauce pens where you're

708
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: doing these twenty mixes or edibles or whatever. It's it's

709
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: coming back. But you know, everything changes, the technology changes

710
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: as well, you know, so look look for that. You

711
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: know it's gonna it's gonna change a lot of what

712
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: our projections are, what's gonna be. So speaking of big

713
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: farms doing that, and it's funny that we're saying this.

714
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: I literally get a text right now, So, Tycoon, is

715
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: you know out of uh in Atlanta, Atlanta? Have you

716
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: seen there for Yeah? Yeah, I actually went there not

717
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: to like about a month ago. Yeah. So Chris and I,

718
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: he's been on the show. He's on the show like

719
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: sometime last year when they were building the facility, and

720
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: him and I are pretty good friends. And I just

721
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: got a text from him that cookies just put their

722
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: all their you know, their genetics with them. Yeah. So

723
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: but the thing is, though, and that goes back to

724
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is that those big facilities like that

725
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: they're capable of of of now that one in particular,

726
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, they put a lot of

727
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: dough into that place. Like, like I said, I did

728
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: a lot of the growing for cookies last year, how

729
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: did it good? And did a lot of their packaging

730
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: distribution and you know you did a lot of it, huh,

731
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: like a lot. I'm just saying, so good. I know

732
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: you're good luck with that, you know, I'm just I'm

733
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: not talking. Hold on, it sounds like I'm just saying

734
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: I've just seen that. They literally just part of the game.

735
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: But it's a it's a huge it's a huge farm.

736
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: It's and that that place is pretty big, and so

737
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: they have the ability to scale the pricing down probably

738
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: and they think so, No, you would think so. I

739
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: mean again, it depends on how much they paid for

740
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: their their property and their their facility. You know. Well,

741
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean Cookies are making some big moves right now.

742
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: They're buying up so many dispensaries. I was out in

743
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: the valley past couple of months just checking things out

744
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: and talking to a lot of them, the other groups

745
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: out there, because there's so many micro licenses, right every

746
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: dispensary has a grow in the back, or a lab

747
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: in the back, or a distro, you know. So um

748
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: and I've been seeing a lot of the guys there.

749
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 1: Let see a bump into Alex like three times trying

750
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: to you know, trying to buy a delivery or buy

751
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: another dispensary, or every store is converting into a cookie store.

752
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. They're gonna be some big

753
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: things this year. It's just weird to see other brands

754
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: that try to make it big like that. I'm actually

755
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: curious your thoughts real quick as we're talking to Aloha

756
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: Mike A k A Mike Kelly from Falcon your thoughts

757
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: on Medman. I mean, you've been growing, you've been doing this.

758
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: Madman makes such a big, you know, mark on the scene,

759
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: and you know they have this big splash, are buying

760
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: all these places. That made me think of a measure said,

761
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: Cookies is buy in all kinds of places. They did

762
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: what Cookies is now doing. And then their CEO is

763
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: going this big lavish spends and they're on the jets

764
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: and this and that, buying big mansions. What are your

765
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 1: thoughts on a company like that, because I'm just gonna

766
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: tell you me personally, and Blue has said this too.

767
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: I think they made a great stamp in the market though,

768
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: in the cannabis game as being a badass company with

769
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: badass products. So they paid the price for it and

770
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: are having to sell a bunch of things. They had

771
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: no products. Well, they have a store. We're gonna go

772
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: to to get quote unquote the best products if your

773
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: product and get into that store, you know what I mean.

774
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: But thoughts on that company, I mean, you know I

775
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: don't I don't sell to them anymore because they owe

776
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: me a bunch of money. Did you know that on

777
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: him specifically? But I knew that they were stiffing. People

778
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: talked about it, you know, so I mean without getting

779
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: into details, like you know, I didn't want to come

780
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: onto the show to talk a bunch of smack, but

781
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: you know they're trying to settle with people offering these

782
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: shares and stuff like that. Like I'm just saying, like,

783
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, just pay me what you owe me. It

784
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: will be cool, um it as far as you know

785
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: the I mean that the poster boy or what not

786
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: to do, right, I mean, they had a good concept

787
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: of like it was a beautif stores. It was a

788
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: great concept. But the people running it, we're money people,

789
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: and you know they manipulated money. And you know that's

790
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: what happens. You know, everybody I see that tries to

791
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: go in and tries to change the culture it fails,

792
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: you know, and I've even seen some that are still here.

793
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to mention any names, but there's a

794
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: couple out in the desert that like, you know, they're

795
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: they're renaming UH cannabis into you know, different like moods

796
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Like do people want to know

797
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: their strain? Like in my opinion, you know, they want

798
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: to know what they're smoking, what it is. And that's

799
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: what I saw with med men. They just tried to like,

800
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, be sterilized the cannabis UH culture, and the

801
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: cannabis is not gonna have that. This this culture has

802
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: been around for you know, longer than we've all been alive, correct,

803
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: So even me, you know, well I think you might

804
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: have brought it out as you split the sea. Anyways, right, Moses,

805
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: I was you know what the one of the things

806
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: we were saying is is that, yes, I think the

807
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: players may change in men, men, and and but I

808
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: don't see them going away. The question that we were

809
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: at getting paid Oh no, no, no, no, they're gonna

810
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: get They're gonna are balance has just been ongoing. I

811
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: mean it's it is what is they owe everyone money?

812
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm probably like so down the list, you know what

813
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, No, I think that the the players

814
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: are gonna go away, but that the company won't. I

815
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: don't think that that. I think they come up. I

816
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: don't think it's just there's such a it's such a

817
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: big I mean, their brand, I think is really valuable.

818
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: What would say that publicity is good publicity? You know,

819
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: and everyone hears med man, they think of the fiasco,

820
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: but everyone knows who they are. They you know, who

821
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: the hell would sell to him right now? You know

822
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's funny. I have a lot of

823
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: friends that still sell to them and they're like, oh no,

824
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: they said they're gonna pay me. They said they're not

825
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna get me anything front. But you know what I mean,

826
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: if they pay C O. D. I mean, you know,

827
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: I have a lot, there's a lot of accounts. You know.

828
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: When this whole thing, when the legalization went, everybody went

829
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: went fucking crazy to grab that real estate at these stores.

830
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: So everyone's offering ninety day terms off and everyone got

831
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: their stuff there and they're like, oh here, we're gonna

832
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: look at Select. They were dropping crates of cartridges off

833
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: at people. Oh you want a ten thousand all here?

834
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: Fifty thousand. Just pay me later when you can. And

835
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: everyone's are balances just went through the roof. And I

836
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: mean we were a victim of that too. Every counts

837
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: receivable for those out there in country seable have just

838
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: been a nightmare for you know, we still have balances

839
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: with with with unlike back in the desert eighteen and

840
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: that's that's for every every big, everybody. But that's almost

841
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: the industry. Yeah, we all used to to to used it.

842
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: I would drop, you know, hundred packs of people and

843
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's like you'd get half

844
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Speaker 1: of the back. And then think if you're med men,

845
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: if you're med men, like you saw that coming, if

846
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: you were smart, Oh cool, you know I'm gonna get

847
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: tons of ship I'm just gonna give me. You know,

848
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the top shelf here, bring me

849
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: a hundred gham with the stuff to each store and

850
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: we're you're gonna we're gonna rock this and then you're

851
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: gonna make your margin on that's gonna be tremendous, right,

852
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: Especially when the legalization first happened, people didn't even know

853
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: the price that you're seeing eight for add and thirty

854
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: dollars and they were just crushing like that. And you know,

855
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: so on paper, I think those first reports, I think

856
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: you were pretty good, right, And then as it started normalizing,

857
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: then he's out events where he get paid and they

858
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: started to spiral out. And then your money went on

859
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: a private jet and your money you bought a mansion

860
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: and hey, guys, can I get paid a couple of

861
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: Silver Shadow Rolls voices as well? Yeah? No, they're just

862
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: guys Canada talking one on one with Mike Kelly. We'll

863
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: be right back after this break. I love coming back

864
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: to this show. It's just great. When are when Peanut

865
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: just starts telling us and then yelling at a thank you, Peanut,

866
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Think sorry like me, producer. Now he's everything,

867
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: Peanut and they're just helping us. Where's Elvis, who's selling this?

868
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: He says this a lot of stuff will thank you Ellus.

869
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: I do want to say this is is um you know,

870
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna put the exact numbers out, but

871
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm actually very proud to say that our numbers went

872
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: up about a hundred fifty percent today. Uh, I think

873
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: it was two hundred fifty it was it closer to

874
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: the bottom line. Thank you everyone for listening to us,

875
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: and we also want to tell you. Leave us a message,

876
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: tell us how you feel eight hundred. Go ahead and

877
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: drop us a call. Talk about if I'm being an

878
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: idiot and thieves Craig's hair it looks great and I'm

879
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: just being a girlk off all the time, or just

880
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: if he's a jerk off eight or if you agree

881
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: with me and say he does it's so much better

882
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: when he colors and cuts his hair. In fact, check

883
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: this out. If you the first five people after this

884
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: exactly moment right here that call and say I want

885
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: a free T shirt, We're gonna give you a free

886
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: T shirt if you call and leave that message right

887
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: there and leave your phone numbers so we can call

888
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: you back and your name and yes, next five people

889
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: to do that once again, that number better. Yet I

890
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: feel like a car salesman on Mr Crazy Bunny. Ten people,

891
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: ten people, it is the next ten people to do

892
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: with tap five? Ten? Now what Craig top that? What

893
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: are you gonna throw in Craig's Are throwing a free consultation? No,

894
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna throw in

895
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: ten business cards. With the pop Brothers at Law with

896
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: it that have the STF you strip, and I think

897
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: we could probably throw on ten hits pre rolls and

898
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: some sticks. I don't know about that. No, really not

899
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: your brother. Can you gonna poculate it? Dude? We might

900
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: not be able to send those in the mail, but

901
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: we will definitely give you guys the ten T shirts.

902
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: So that's right. Hold Mike Kelly, what are you throwing

903
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: in there? Cure bupper stickers? Your crew? What do you got?

904
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Mr? Crew? I got um,

905
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: I got this. You can have my pop up thing

906
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: on my cell phone right here there. It is one

907
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: the lucky number one gets the pop there. Don't say

908
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: it unless you're gonna give it. It is now time

909
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: for the high five with aloha Mike a k A.

910
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: Mike Kelly from Falcon. It's been great hearing you on

911
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: the show and hearing all about your success. Is awesome

912
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: to see you stick around in the cannabis game from

913
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 1: a young Rastafarian regulae artist to this well produced white

914
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: man now thanks to my having me guys, always a

915
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: fun time to see you in. Great job on losing

916
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: the weight, brother, keep doing your thing, How old are

917
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: you the first time you smoked weed? And where'd you

918
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: get it from? Um? I would say, uh, well, you know,

919
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: it's funny, that's a funny story. I was eleven and

920
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: my my neighbor, David, his dad was this crazy Vietnam bed.

921
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean, dude like long hair, kind of looked like

922
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: a giant Jesus, and he's always piste off brothers like

923
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: the construction work and be like, God, damn it, we

924
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: should have fucking won that war. And he'd come in

925
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: and he he had this like chest on top of

926
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: the fireplace and he grabbed weed. And me and David,

927
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: we were in junior high. I think I was in

928
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: sixth grade or seventh grade. Was your neighbor? This is

929
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: my I lived down the middle of the desert bro So.

930
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: But he used a smoke weed all the time. But

931
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: I didn't get real high. And then one day my

932
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: had an older friend and he had a pack of cigarettes.

933
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: My dad found his cigarettes and he saw it joint.

934
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, you want to smoke weed. We're gonna

935
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: smoke weed. I think I was twelve or thirteen. I

936
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: got really high with my dad and my buddy Chase. Oh,

937
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: that's the first time he's making sure I was inhaling

938
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: and you know and everything, and I'm gonna smoke, yeah,

939
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: smoke it right, all right? What is your favorite way

940
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: to use cannabis? Um? You know what, I like to

941
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: play video games, dude. I'm just saying, you know, some

942
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: call of duty or whatever, and like smoke it a

943
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: favorite way to use it, though, like you put it

944
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: in a video game and smoke it or so, you

945
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: know what. You know. I like a blunt. I like

946
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: a bond usually or a pipe, and I like flour.

947
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many concentrates and I have access

948
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: to all of it. It's just too much for me. Bro,

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00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: I like one or two little hits. I'm good. You know.

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00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: There's a couple of rips, and one thing I hate

951
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: is edibles. Bro will wreck me to I won't do

952
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: my girl will do three thousand grands something little brother does.

953
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: Mark can go. I don't think I see him eating

954
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: Bible buds all night online. He's like, I'm seven thousand

955
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: pounds in Yeah. Question number three of the High five

956
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: of the Loha Mike A k A Mike Kelly a

957
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: Falcon Craziest place You've ever used cannabis or smoked it.

958
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: Oh man, let me see, there's been so many crazy places.

959
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: Um God, I wish I had more time to think

960
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: on that one. Um, you know, I'm sure there was

961
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: some crazy politically. I did a lot of political stuff

962
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: over the few years, you know. And um ever in

963
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: Washington smoking my house, I know, but like you know,

964
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: it's checking my note at the governors. I've smoked weed

965
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: with a lot of celebrities that you never think with.

966
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to put anyone on blast. We'll give

967
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: one good one and that's a good crazy place. Not

968
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: on on on planes quite a bit, you know, openly

969
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: on some jets, which is kind of cool. That's very nice,

970
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: very nice. That's always nice to a question number four?

971
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: Mark you ready? Mark? Mark? Mark? Where is he? Where's

972
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: your little brother? Oh? Have you heard my slamp? Hoem? Hey?

973
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: Can I give a key to bring it up? One

974
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: more time? I'm gonna slap you upside the head? What

975
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: is your goat? You Munchie's after you get high, Mike

976
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: m I would say, sugar free pudding, bro, the jellow pudding,

977
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: what kind of thing? Coconut? The dull say one? And

978
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: the the dark chocolate al right. Number five. If you

979
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: could smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would

980
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: it be? Um Man, I would you know what I

981
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,479
Speaker 1: would say? I'm warning this Mono Neon shirt. Mono Nion

982
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: should hit me up. Bro. He's my favorite bass player.

983
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: I know he smokes weed because he's got that song

984
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: Water Women Weed. I'd like the smokes some weed with

985
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: Modern Neon and educate. I don't know who he is,

986
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: he's a bass player, um and he's left handed. He

987
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: plays the bass upside down. And if you don't know

988
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: who he is, looking up online Modo Neon and there's

989
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 1: these things with Trump and Cardi B. And he plays

990
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: the guitar and bass as they're talking. It's it's pretty

991
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: pretty crazy looking. And then he loops, you know, whatever

992
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: they say into this little jam. I know it sounds goofy,

993
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: but like I love the guy. He's very innovative. You know,

994
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: I've been playing bass my whole life. I play upright,

995
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: I have an awesome bass collection. I just built a

996
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: bass with my son when COVID broke out and we

997
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: caught the cannabase to check it out on my my

998
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: my social media. But he is my favorite bass player

999
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: right now. And he's somebody i'd like to smoke. I

1000
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: like to hear stories like that that are like, you know,

1001
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: off the wall, where who is he? I don't know

1002
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: who he is? And what a great reason, bro, he's

1003
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: he's so dope and so unique and his music is

1004
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: just awesome. Dude. I'm just saying, I love love somebody

1005
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: that's unique like that, that just doing their own thing.

1006
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: We need to plug him on the podcast. What's his

1007
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: name again, Mono Neon, We'll get him on the show. Awesome, bro.

1008
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: And I go to the Nam show the past few

1009
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: years ago, me and I saw him at met him.

1010
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: Yet you know he's d m me once because he

1011
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: saw a picture of my my my chick with the

1012
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: upright bass, which is kind of cool. Both do you

1013
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: guys play bass? You and your check not? You know what?

1014
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: She plays guitar and uh, but you know she did

1015
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: this photo street where she's like a pin up and

1016
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: she used my upright because it's I got it from

1017
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: my Hank William, the thirds bass player, and it's orange

1018
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: with gold flake. It's kind of like rockabilly looking, but

1019
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: it's it's dope. My dad played the base in a band.

1020
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: That's right, met my mom. He was on stage. Yeah,

1021
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: always a good one. Now but BA base is where

1022
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: it's at the base a little more, all right. So

1023
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: so you know, Mike, any any final words before we

1024
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: get you out of here? Man? Um, you know, do

1025
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: you want to you know, plug anything? Just about fives

1026
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: are in all right? Yeah? I want I just wanna

1027
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: give a shout out to to my girl Stacy and Stacy. Hi, Stacy,

1028
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: I believe you didn't show up. Thank you. Can you

1029
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: show me a Bennet poster? She's a lot better looking

1030
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: than all of us. Yeah. When he said been a poster,

1031
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: I already imagined that's all my day one. And then uh,

1032
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: my assistant Miriam over there talking. She's just holding douches,

1033
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: great stew and just the whole crew at Dalkin and uh,

1034
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, just everyone just keep fighting for the cause. Man.

1035
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 1: You know it's still you don't let these corporate people

1036
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: coming and just destroy the culture. You know. That was

1037
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: my my my message would be out. Everybody is like

1038
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: hang on tied to that cannabis call tree because it's

1039
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: been around for so long and you know, so much society.

1040
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: So it's the people have the money take away, Free

1041
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: the Weed. There it is guys, it's Cannabis Talk one

1042
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: on one. Remember this if no one else loves you well.

1043
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one

1044
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,640
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