1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: My husband said I cheated and our biracial baby isn't his. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: Then somehow it got even worse. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 3: I'm always just like concerned with how it could get worse, 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 3: But somehow they always get worse. 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: My boyfriend asks for a paternity chest of our child. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: As soon as the results come and show that he 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: is the father, I'm leaving him. 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 3: Damn, ro you just got his carmel back. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Now. 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm a new mob to a baby boy who is 11 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: my pride and joy. And though it's been a roller 12 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: coaster adjusting to taking care of a baby, the past 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: few months have been great, tiring, but great. I have 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: a boyfriend of three years who is the first person 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: relationship wise that I've ever loved. And I thought that 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: we were doing great as new parents and also as partners. 17 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: You thought you were doing great by those first two sons, says, 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: might be a little hiccup. 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: On Friday, he came home and just straight up asked 20 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: me for a paternity test to prove the baby is his. 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: Why did he suddenly ask that there must be a 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: reason right just. 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: Like that, It was completely out of the blue. I 24 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: was putting dishes away, he asked for one like he 25 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: was asking me what was for dinner? 26 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: Babe, babe, do you mind? 27 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: You know, like after you're then stack of the dishwasher 28 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: getting a thirty tests. 29 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: I'm imagining it. It's like it's like he's like he's 30 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: giving an order. He's like, hey, maybe we could get 31 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: some Kalamari, some tempora and a paternity test. 32 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: Like what do you what do you think? 33 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm a different race from him, But our child, apart 34 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: from the skin tone, is literally the mirror image from 35 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: pictures I've seen of him when he was a baby. 36 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, look at your freakin family history right now, come on, 37 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 3: open up that scrap book. Look at your damnself, look 38 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: at yourself in the mirror. 39 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: I was stunned when he asked, and his reasons were 40 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: that he said he had to be sure he was 41 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: the father and he had to have certainty. 42 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: It's such a breach of trust, Like, all right, if 43 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: you're actually worried about cheating and like that's been a thing, 44 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: I understand that if the trust is there, you're kind 45 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: of like by asking, you're kind of breaking some trust 46 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: in the relationship. 47 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: I think we're only hearing op side of the story 48 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: so far, but from what we have seen. 49 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, unless there's cheating. If there's cheating, then I understand. 50 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: If there hasn't been that I don't like if. 51 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: You walk in and your child's mother is a boeing it, okay, 52 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: well now we have some cause or whatever. Also, his 53 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: answer was like why because I had to have certainty. 54 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: It's like, why do you want to see the movies? 55 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: Like because I want to watch moving pictures on a screen. 56 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: It's like, that's not an answer. All I remember as 57 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: he was speaking is just immediately feeling pain. The man 58 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: I love doesn't trust me. He would actually believe that 59 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: I would do it with someone else, cheat on him, 60 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: and then try to pass off another man's baby as his. 61 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: I have never ever given him a reason to think 62 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: that I would cheat on him. I've tried to be 63 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: transparent and communicated, and it wasn't enough. 64 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: I feel for UOP. I feel for Uop. 65 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: It feels so hard just watching these relationships fall apart 66 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: in real time. 67 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: He told me that he would give me time to 68 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: think about this, that he wouldn't go behind my back 69 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: and do this test, but for our relationship to move forward, 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: he needs to be one hundred percent sure. This guy 71 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: just like he just keeps repeating the thing that is 72 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: like the worst thing to say to the stab. He 73 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: repeated this because he, in his words, needed me to 74 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: realize how serious he was. 75 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: I think we get it. 76 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: I think we get how serious you are. 77 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: Duty do you want a paternity test? Is that what 78 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: you're saying? Because I'm unclear. 79 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: After thinking for a couple of days, I'm going to 80 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: allow him this paternity test because I have nothing to hide. 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: I've never cheated and would never have cheated on him. 82 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Once it's proven that he's the father, I'm ending it, 83 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: leaving the same day, and I'm going to try my 84 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: best to be a cooperative co parent with him. 85 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: It's done. She's made up her mind. Bro. 86 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: In the meantime, I'm coming up with my exit plan, 87 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: a place to live, a lawyer to work out a 88 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: custody arrangement in court, et cetera. I can't even tell 89 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: my family or friends right now because it would go nuclear, 90 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: and my first priority is our child. I'm not asking 91 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: for advice or reassurance or to explain aside. I'm just 92 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: realizing this part of my life is now over. What 93 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: a way to start the new year. Huh, God, damn. 94 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: I understand though, Like you know, once the trust in 95 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: the relationship is broken, like it's hard to get that back, 96 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 3: and obviously he doesn't trust. 97 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: Her and it all seems for nothing. 98 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you must have suspicions of their cheating, 99 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: but like he didn't even give any good reason. 100 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: He'd give any reason, no. 101 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Good reasons, no good reason. He's like, I want it 102 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: because I want it. 103 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: I totally get where Ope's coming from. That. 104 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: Damn, there's enough date. Give it to me. A final update. 105 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: It's short and sweet. 106 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: I left, things have gone downhill and under advisement, I 107 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: can't really discuss it until things are settled in court. 108 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: I guess I'm really a cautionary tale on what can 109 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: go wrong. Please, if you have any concerns with your partner, 110 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: discuss things beforehand, especially before you have a child. Thank 111 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: you all again for your different perspectives. Hoping to have 112 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: everything settled eventually. 113 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, have all those conversations beforehand, but damn, opfeel for you, 114 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: feel for you? Wait John, so like really quick, doctor 115 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: okop before in another episode where like every birth should 116 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: come with a paternity test, like automatically, do you remember 117 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 3: what we said that? 118 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what a ton of people say on these 119 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: stories too. 120 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: So with that being on the record as something that 121 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: we both have said, is it truly a big deal 122 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: to ask for a paternity test? And why do you 123 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: think of this context this time is different? 124 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Here's the thing the situation with like I think we 125 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: were talking about it in the context of like literally 126 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: like when you go to a hospital and like you 127 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: have a baby, they do all these procedures, they clean 128 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: the baby and like get their birth certificate whatever that 129 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: it's done there in that process. 130 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: So John's saying you shouldn't even have to ask for 131 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: it be already given to you. 132 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: I think it's probably a good idea to where it's 133 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: like confirmed every every time. 134 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So then I ask you, so obviously this is 135 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: this is that different relationship. But do you think if 136 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: you were to have a child with your significant other 137 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 3: that you would want the default to be them giving 138 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 3: you a paternity test. 139 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: I don't want the default of them giving me the 140 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: paternity test. It could be a good idea, yeah, for 141 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: the people who have had their partners cheated right in 142 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: the hospital for that to happen where there's like no 143 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: finger pointing. 144 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 2: But the truth is revealed. 145 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: You don't want to have to start the revolution. You 146 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: want the revolution to have already started and it just 147 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: already be benefiting. 148 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: I just think, like just reading of all the stories 149 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: of people who did have a child with another person, 150 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: I never even consider this ever before we started the show, 151 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: not once. But I'm like, damn, this is crazy. So 152 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: you're asking me, would I ever ask my partner for 153 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: a paternity test? 154 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: Hell? No, I would never. 155 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: I would never do that unless there's some super curious evidence, 156 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: super serious evidence. 157 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, if there's something sus Yeah, there's something super suss. 158 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: Other than that, like, I have no I have no 159 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: reason for me to ask my partner. That's the problem 160 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: with this scenario is because Opie's partner literally completely destroyed 161 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: the trust of the relationship by asking for the paternity test. 162 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: Because what he's really saying, he's not asking for a 163 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: paternity test. He's saying, I think you cheated. 164 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: I think you cheated. That's the problem. It's it's low key. 165 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll say good, but like this 166 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: kind of revealed the giant red flag that like if 167 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: he literally doesn't trust you with that and has the 168 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: goal to go and ask you for it. 169 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: Like like and do what he did. He's not a keeper, 170 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: not a keeper exactly. So to summarize, John wants everyone 171 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 3: to get a paternity test. He wishes that was the norm, 172 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: because it is not the norm. Because he trusts his partner, 173 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: he's not going to ask for it himself. We need 174 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: to literally have you know, those T shirt cannons. We 175 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: literally need to fund a program shooting paternity tests in 176 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: like people's windows are on their Like, you get a 177 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: patarditya di st, you get a paternity test, and you're 178 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: gonna patter any. 179 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: Tests Oprah paternity tests. 180 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, that's that's what okay op show will become