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Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to sixteenth Minute, the podcast where we take

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Speaker 2: a look at the internet's characters of the day and

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Speaker 2: see what their moment says about us and the Internet.

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Speaker 2: And today we are continuing our deep dive on Hailey

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Speaker 2: Welch aka the Hawk to a Girl. When we left

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Speaker 2: off last week, Hailey Welch had just decided to go

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Speaker 2: public as Miss Hawktua on July one, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: abruptly solving a mystery that sleuths across the Internet had

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Speaker 2: been trying to figure out for weeks, either to identify

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Speaker 2: who she was for fun or claim slash profit from

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Speaker 2: her words and image when she wasn't claiming it for herself.

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Speaker 2: And keep in mind, the original Hawk was posted June eleventh,

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Speaker 2: and three weeks later, there had already been several rounds

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Speaker 2: of discourse surrounding Haley. It wasn't until she introduced herself

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Speaker 2: to the public that the details of her biography began

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Speaker 2: to walk in place. This is how I've been able

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Speaker 2: to put it together as best I can. Hailey Welch

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Speaker 2: was raised by her grandmother or her granny in Belfast, Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: population eight hundred and forty four. Around the time since

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Speaker 2: she was nine months old. Some basic stats about Belfast, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Its majority working class and comprised of non high school grads.

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Speaker 2: There are two men to every woman. It is overwhelmingly white,

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Speaker 2: and has a limited job market. It's also farmland. Most

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Speaker 2: early footage of Haley features animals in the background, and

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Speaker 2: if you can't see them, you can usually hear them.

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Speaker 2: Hailey's parents had a limited presence in her life. Her dad,

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Speaker 2: a farm hand, was in the picture, but infrequently. She

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Speaker 2: says she rarely spent time with him growing up. Her

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Speaker 2: mother was a drug addict from the time Haley was

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Speaker 2: born and has never been in the picture in her life,

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Speaker 2: something that Haley became gradually more open about as her

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Speaker 2: fame continued to grow. And by that I mean it

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Speaker 2: is not at all unusual they hear Haley making crack

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Speaker 2: baby jokes at her own expense. Here's an example from

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Speaker 2: Whitney Cummings podcast.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Oh how's your mom?

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Speaker 2: Mamma a crackhead?

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Speaker 4: You don't want her?

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Speaker 3: Is she an actual crackhout? Yea, I'm a crag baby,

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Speaker 3: are you daw?

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Speaker 2: Why you guys so funny? Hailey is a high school

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Speaker 2: graduate with a close knit group of childhood friends. She

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Speaker 2: was a cheerleader in high school, and at age twenty one,

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Speaker 2: was working at a spring factory called Tennessee Spring and

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Speaker 2: Metal as an inspector and shipping manager who often had

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Speaker 2: to wake up at two thirty in the morning to

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Speaker 2: get to work on time. She has a tattoo saying

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Speaker 2: still I Rise, a quote that references both Amaya Angelou

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Speaker 2: Pome and, according to Haley, a lot of the difficulties

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Speaker 2: she faced growing up and transcending them anyways. The second

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Speaker 2: episode of Talk to a really emphasizes the rural normality

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Speaker 2: of her lifestyle, complete with her drinking wine on the

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Speaker 2: porch with her friends.

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Speaker 4: I'm always down for Taco Bell.

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Speaker 2: You are Maha freeze.

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Speaker 3: I've never had one.

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Speaker 5: They're good.

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Speaker 4: We're taking your Baha virginity.

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Speaker 2: And going to Taco Bell habitually, which in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: is always a sign of good character. Another thing that

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Speaker 2: struck me is that Haley seems to have a vested

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Speaker 2: interest in lifting up her friends from Tennessee in the

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Speaker 2: process of going through this chaotic experience, particularly Chelsea Bradford,

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Speaker 2: who appeared in the original Tim and D TV video

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Speaker 2: with Haley and initially convinced Haley to do it at all.

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Speaker 2: Chelsea was a friend who would later stand up for

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Speaker 2: her a number of times and would eventually become her

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Speaker 2: talk to a co host and essentially right hand woman.

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Speaker 2: And the reason that most people hadn't put any of

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Speaker 2: this together and assigned false narratives to proliferate that was

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Speaker 2: that Haley wasn't even on social media at the time

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Speaker 2: the clip went viral. This is from her first interview

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Speaker 2: on podcast Plan Pree Uncut amazing. But did you delete

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Speaker 2: all of your social media?

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Speaker 4: So I deleted all my social media like six months

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Speaker 2: I never really got on it or anything like that.

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Speaker 7: Oh okay, So it didn't have anything to do with this.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I was long gone before that.

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Speaker 7: You were already gone from social media. And everyone thought

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Speaker 7: that you deleted your social media because you were like

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Speaker 3: But you were gone.

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Speaker 4: I've been gone from it.

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Speaker 2: So are you going to come back? I think we're

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Speaker 2: working on that right now. As she's consistently alluded to,

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Speaker 2: Hailey was mortified when the Hawk to a clip went

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Speaker 2: viral and didn't do anything except go to work for

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Speaker 2: the week after she first noticed its virality. She pretty

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Speaker 2: cleanly breaks down the emotions she was navigating at this

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Speaker 2: time during this interview on Plan Bree with Brianna LaPaglia

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Speaker 2: of Barstools.

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Speaker 3: It was just massive.

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Speaker 2: It was massive, okay, war close through your head.

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Speaker 8: When that, I was like, oh, well, this.

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Speaker 2: Is kind of fun.

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Speaker 4: I was like, it's not gonna get bigger than this.

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Speaker 4: And I go back like an hour later in the

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Speaker 4: views done went up by like a milia and I

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Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, there's no way that just happened.

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Speaker 2: Sure, up it did.

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Speaker 7: And then it kept going and kept going, and then

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Speaker 7: there was the search for you. Yeah, and what like,

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Speaker 7: what did you want to do when there was a search?

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Speaker 7: Was there a part of you that was like, I

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Speaker 7: don't want to be known as the hook to a girl?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a big part of it. And then

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Speaker 4: they started spilling my name wrong and making like accounts

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Speaker 4: of me, which they got pictures off all my friends

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Speaker 4: like social media's and stuff like that, and which it's

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Speaker 4: it's kind of creepy, stay in your face on another

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Speaker 4: account that don't belong to You're like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people thought any of words, Jillian.

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Speaker 7: I saw a bunch of people were getting like recognized

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Speaker 7: as you, but it wasn't you.

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Speaker 3: It was wild.

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Speaker 7: So when they officially found you, were you like I

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, I'm not adding these people back.

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Speaker 2: LaPaglia also acknowledges another wave of media surrounding Haley prior

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Speaker 2: to her siding to lean into her fifteen minutes of fame.

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Speaker 7: What do you do now, because now you have management

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Speaker 7: and I have a team, what are your plans moving forward?

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Speaker 3: Like do you want to.

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Speaker 7: Still be the hook to a girl or do you

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Speaker 4: I don't really want that to be like my image, yeah,

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Speaker 4: like hot to a girl. I just I don't say

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of a surface exploration of how this

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Speaker 2: shift went for Hailey. But the idea that Haley voluntarily

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Speaker 2: from this moment more or less happened because of something

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Speaker 2: that was outside of her control. For everyone that I've

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Speaker 2: seen jumped at the conclusion that Haley was determined to

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Speaker 2: be famous. I don't see any evidence that that was

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Speaker 2: I don't see it even more. But on Plan Brie,

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Speaker 2: Chelsea Bradford appears briefly as well, and offers a little

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Speaker 7: Did you say anything that you wish you didn't know?

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Speaker 4: Which, I wasn't prepared for those kind of questions, so

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody was, like I wasn't in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I made sure to keep it.

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Speaker 3: Like because it was going to go out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you were just like fuck it.

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Speaker 2: I just said, I don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 3: So, like I was.

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Speaker 7: Saying before, what do you think she should do now?

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Speaker 3: Like, do you think she should just take full advantage

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I love her personality and the fact that the world

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Speaker 4: so I think she should.

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Speaker 3: And that accent, the accent is so good.

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Speaker 2: Again, like we talked about last week. I think two

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Speaker 2: things need to be true here. There's not much doubt

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Speaker 2: at this point in early July that Healy has decided

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Speaker 2: of it. And that's pretty common for main characters in

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Speaker 2: her age range early twenties who don't have long standing

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Speaker 2: think it's also fair to say that this was not

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Speaker 2: something she was necessarily courting prior to this moment. So

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Speaker 2: what now? During her first interview, here is what Haley

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Speaker 7: So now is like, you're gonna go to La, You're

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 7: Do you think you see yourself like starting your own

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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna do like a show and then

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Speaker 4: we're just gonna be like on a bunch of podcasts

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Speaker 4: and everything else in between.

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Speaker 5: Cool.

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Speaker 3: So kind of just figuring out as you go.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's more to come, don't worry.

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Speaker 2: And at the end of her interview with LaPaglia, we

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Speaker 2: get the first hint of exactly how politicized Haley is

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Speaker 2: going to be as a figure when LaPaglia asks if

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Speaker 2: Haley would if Haley would hawk on that thing of

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Speaker 4: No, absolutely not, uh huh for me, Jake Paul, I'm

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Speaker 4: happy to say hawk hawk Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You said, okay.

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Speaker 2: Thankfully. This happened in twenty twenty four, a moment where

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Speaker 2: the media had finally recognized that when someone gets this

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Speaker 2: they're going to frame her. I'm just kidding. Here's part

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Speaker 2: two of Haley Welton the hawk to with saga. Welcome

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Speaker 2: back to the show. Let's play the theme song.

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Speaker 9: It's time sixteen let's see.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to sixteenth minute, the podcast where we take

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Speaker 2: a look at the Internet's main characters of the day,

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Speaker 2: talk to them and see what their moment meant for

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Speaker 2: them and what it says about us and the Internet.

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Speaker 2: My name is Jamie Loftus. And while I'm recording this

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Speaker 2: from the past, I'm assuming President Trump's second inauguration was

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Speaker 2: even scarier. And while I dissociate with you for an

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Speaker 2: hour or so, let's continue to examine the saga of

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Speaker 2: hawk to a girl Ailey Welch, after her first formal

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Speaker 2: media appearance with Brianna LaPaglia aka Brianna Chicken Fry no

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Speaker 2: time to explain, she was further politicized by saying that

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Speaker 2: she was not interested in hawktuaing on Donald Trump's penis,

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Speaker 2: and I mean, god forbid, these two twenty one year

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Speaker 2: old girls immediately knew they didn't want to slobber on

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Speaker 2: the dick of a nearly eighty year old man. And

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Speaker 2: off of this very normal question came a very normal

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Speaker 2: media response. On the right, we have Laura Lumer, the

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Speaker 1: I don't know much about politics. I don't talk about

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Speaker 2: He describes the Internet, I think pretty perfectly like this.

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Speaker 2: So shout out Corey. If you listen to my recent

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Speaker 2: But before that there was her appearance on Whitney Cummings

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Speaker 2: Out and tragically later in this Internet Whitney Cummings Facetimes,

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Speaker 2: And while the bread and butter of these zinternet podcasters

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Speaker 2: Matt Rife's, You're Morgan Wallins. The list, unfortunately goes on,

444
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 2: and Hailey's management takes care to pull her image towards sports,

445
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: even those sports are something that Haley herself regularly admits

446
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 2: she knows and cares very little about. But there she

447
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: is throwing the first pitch at a Mets game on

448
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: August fifteenth. For some reason, I'm not going to put

449
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 2: you through all of these appearances, but one I do

450
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: need to single out because it is a cultural artifact

451
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: so baffling that I consider it my patriotic duty to

452
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: share it with you. Hailey Welch Miss Tua on Bill

453
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: Maher's podcast.

454
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: I'm not up to trans I had to figure out

455
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 4: who you were today.

456
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: I'm so serious. I don't keep up with anything.

457
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 12: You're twenty one, You're not supposed to. I'd be disappointed

458
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 12: if you did your day to day before this happened.

459
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 12: Was like working in a where'd you work?

460
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: A spring factory?

461
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 5: A spring factory? Right?

462
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: It wasn't nothing bad though, It's not like a normal factory.

463
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 4: You hear anything about I guess really laid back. I'm

464
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 4: doing it there.

465
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's still a fucking factory. I mean yeah.

466
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 4: I mean they got the bill's pay. That's all it mattered.

467
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: I didn't mind end up going to work every day.

468
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 12: Which is better that or Now you're in show business, Come.

469
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 5: On show business. You don't know what he Harrelson is?

470
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 5: Don't really whatdy Harrelson? That is time? What a ravager?

471
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 2: Now? That's religious. I don't have the time or energy

472
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: to talk more about Billmar's podcast. I do know what's

473
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: called Club Random, which sounds like a Little Brother's YouTube channel,

474
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 2: But I do kind of love this interview because Haley

475
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 2: does not know or care who Bill Maher is, and

476
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: it seems to be bringing him to the verge of

477
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: having a nervous attack. The whole interview is basically him

478
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: quizzing her on World War two and the Beatles while

479
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: putting this like weird life serum into his sparkling water

480
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: with a syringe while she drinks a high noon like

481
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: a normal person. I promise I'm not lying. It's very,

482
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: very weird. The only good advice mar is capable of

483
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: giving Hailey is something I noticed happened across media elders

484
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: who spoke with her. Even when there are people I'm

485
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: not personally a fan of, there are many people twice

486
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: or three times per age who gave Haley just pragmatic

487
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: entertainment advice on how best to not fuck your life up.

488
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: Here's Bill Maher.

489
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 5: I told you you were given this chip. You were

490
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 5: given the chip of fame.

491
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 12: Now you want to trade that in for something that

492
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 12: uses that but takes it to the next level, and

493
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 12: you have to just like trade on what you're already

494
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 12: known for. That's the one thing you're known for, So

495
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 12: you could do a podcast for like, I don't know

496
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 12: if there's anything from somebody that age with that point

497
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 12: of view, but it couldn't be frivolous. You have to

498
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 12: take it seriously. Could you do that possibly and talk

499
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 12: about sex but seriously serious issues because there are a

500
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 12: lot of really serious issues.

501
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: And weirdly enough, this also happened on Whitney's podcast with

502
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: Matt Rife, of all people, and.

503
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 6: They were just asking if I had any kind of

504
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 6: advice to somebody who had had similar success in a

505
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 6: similar field and platform, and you were the example that

506
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 6: brought up, and I basically just said to fucking stick

507
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 6: to your guns and have fun and be smart and

508
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 6: responsible because as much I'm sure you've already started to

509
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 6: see U a little bit, as much as people love

510
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 6: you today, more and more people hate you tomorrow. And

511
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 6: the more people love you, the more people hate you.

512
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 6: Because people love you so people love to see you

513
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 6: succeed in the beginning, but then they fucking love to

514
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 6: tear you down when they feel like you've gotten too

515
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 6: big for your bridges. So my advice that I gave

516
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 6: was just for you to be smart and fucking enjoy yourself.

517
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 2: So every once in a while she gets a usable

518
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: piece of advice, But this doesn't seem to be the

519
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: path that she's going to go on now to this day,

520
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: it's unclear to me how much of this plan is

521
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: of her own volition and how much is being pushed

522
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: by the management. But I have my suspicions. I'll share

523
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: this quote from your manager, Johnny Forster, when he was

524
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: asked if he thought Haley would ever try to get

525
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: Hollywood representation.

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00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 10: She doesn't even really know what that means. No disrespect to.

527
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: That, okay. By mid to late summer, Hailey had an

528
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: Instagram audience of over a million people, which makes it

529
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: interesting when she starts a Twitter or account sometime later

530
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: in the summer, mainly because sorry, I mean, I'm still

531
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: on there too, But Hailey's generation is not particularly interested

532
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: in Twitter. She literally calls it x no. From what

533
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: I can gather, Hailey started her ex account because she

534
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: was encouraged to at a massive crypto conference she was

535
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: attending as a celebrity guest last summer. Now it's unclear

536
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: exactly how this crypto appearance came together, but it appears

537
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: the culprit may be Howie Mandel.

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00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 13: One million dollars is a top prize. No crazy stunts,

539
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 13: no trivia questions. All they have to do is be

540
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 13: able to answer the most important question tonight. And that

541
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 13: question is real or no Deal?

542
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: Like that Howie Mandel, host of Deal or No Deal,

543
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: Voice of the Maguai Gizmo, Howie Mandel.

544
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 5: Has it got a named that?

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00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 9: Yeah?

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00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 10: Mog why?

547
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 5: What mag Why? I don't know some Chinese word. I

548
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 5: just call him gizmo? These ags you like it?

549
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 13: And then my friend got me onto a movie. I

550
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 13: did this movie called Gremlin Gizmo. Yes, the first little

551
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 13: but it's the same voice, he goes.

552
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: It's the same.

553
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: Stay with me. Hailey Welch appeared on Howie Mandel's podcast

554
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: called Howie Mandel Does Stuff where she plays this JOKEI

555
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: game where she learns about her ancestry in a bad

556
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: ripoff of a much better show on PBS called Finding

557
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: Your Roots for Hollow People.

558
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 5: You should keep that.

559
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't trust anybody. It's not just Hollywood people,

560
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: it's just anybody.

561
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: Why what happened? I just don't did something happen? I

562
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: just don't trust anybo.

563
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 13: Can Let's ask management, can she hock to you into

564
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 13: the haktua, into the tube away from the microphone?

565
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: And I can't prove that this isn't a coincidence. But

566
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: Hailey Welch later links up with Howie Mandel's son in law,

567
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: Alex Larsen Schultz aka Doc Hollywood, who is technically a musician,

568
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: but for the sake of this sentence, is absolutely a

569
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: crypto guy. This brings us to July twenty fourth, when

570
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: Doc Hollywood posts a photo of himself. Let's see description,

571
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: White guy of indeterminate age, presumably bald, black rimmed glasses,

572
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: black T shirt you can tell cost over one hundred

573
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: dollars for some reason, black brim hat and he's pointing

574
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: at Hailey Welch and Chelsea Bradford while reading Matt Fury

575
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: books behind him, saying that meme class is in session

576
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: and in case you're not terminally online, Matt Fury's work

577
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: is a reference to the fact that he created the

578
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: cartoon Frog Pepe, who the right wing and the crypto

579
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: lobby have pretty successful stolen as a symbol of their own. So,

580
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: while it's unclear whether Don Hollywood introduced Haley Welch to

581
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: Howie Mandel or the reverse. If I told you Howie

582
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: Mandel's son in law was a prominent villain in this saga,

583
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: would you believe me? Because that is the world that

584
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm asking you to live in. Because once Dock Hollywood

585
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: pops up, as a very thorough timeline from the Ringers,

586
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: Katie Baker details, Haley becomes a peculiar fixture in the

587
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: blockchain community, a place known for crypto scams, crypto being

588
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: something that Haley has also suspiciously never demonstrated an interest

589
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: in before. Haley becomes a soft fixture in both the

590
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: crypto and the sports gambling space, mainly because the two

591
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: are connected via a lot of sketchy gambling, including a

592
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: cursed encounter where she met RFK at the Bitcoin twenty

593
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: twenty four conference in late July at some event called

594
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: Karate Combat. Sure, And it's around this same time that

595
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: she starts an x account. And while her personality remains

596
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: somewhat consistent across her social media channels, I do need

597
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: to note that the content on Haley's X account is

598
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: markedly different from what you'd find on her Instagram or

599
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: her Snapchat. Instagram and Snapchat for Haley tend to be

600
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: more general influencer lifestylely things, her sharing her personality in

601
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: a fairly direct way, but her ex personality is marketed

602
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: to the crypto AI general chaos tech bro Her early tweets,

603
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: I am absolutely certain from when I began researching this

604
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: series are from early July twenty twenty four, but appear

605
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: to have been since deleted and are impossible to access

606
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: via the wayback machine, something I suspect has something to

607
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: do with an eventual crypto lawsuit. But I do feel

608
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: very confident in saying that Haley's first posts on X

609
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: are a series of videos and pictures from a Nashville

610
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: bitcoin expo where she agrees to start an X account

611
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: at the event. At present, Hailey's first tweet that's publicly

612
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: available is from August seventh, but you'll have to take

613
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: my word for the fact that that is not true. Regardless,

614
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: the Hailey presented on X isn't just a relatable girl

615
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: from Nashville. She's a crypto capitalist with a Southern twang,

616
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: a very different version of herself, to the point that

617
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: she'd occasionally have to remind people that she was running

618
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: the account herself, posting front facing videos as evidence it's me, bitch,

619
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: What are you fucking mean?

620
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 4: Hey? Come bractillya mes.

621
00:34:53,840 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: Me bitches, But most of her here are either promo

622
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: for her eventual podcast on fellow cryptobro Jake Paul's sports

623
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: betting company platform, or ugly AI generated images of her

624
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: onto tech bro meme formats in no particular order, Hailey

625
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: as an astronaut, Hailey as the statue of liberty, Hailey

626
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 2: surfing holding a beer in an American flag while wearing

627
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: a tuxedo, and her spin on existing meme formats like

628
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: the Drake one, waving away traditional news sources then smiling

629
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: and pointing at X. She's using dumb catchphrases like grocktua.

630
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: This account is clearly courting the Elon Musk lobby on

631
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: Elon Musk's platform specifically, and while this alternate Hailey persona

632
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: builds on X, she and her management continue to introduce

633
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: her to the corner of the hyper successful, ultimately kind

634
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: of bigoted and boring video podcast world Whitney Cummings, Bill

635
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: Maher and so on, then on Instagram over on her

636
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: more normal persona. On August twenty eighth, Hailey launches the

637
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: one initiative It seems like she actually would have cared

638
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: about three months earlier a nonprofit called Pause Across America.

639
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 4: Today, I'm happy to announce a launch of My Paws

640
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: Across America fun. Our mission is to bring awareness, advocacy,

641
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 4: and financial assistance to animal charities within the United States.

642
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 4: I'm starting in my hometown shelter and it went a

643
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: little something like this sprit pickout and we're gonna getting

644
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 4: some supplies. So the first thing on my list is

645
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 4: Lacy's and callers.

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00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: She calls this initiative her life's mission, and I honestly

647
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: believe her. Her love of her friends, family, and pets

648
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: are the only ostensible consistence across this story. Now, it

649
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: as for what the nonprofit does, very hard to say.

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00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: Their URL is registered under Haley's LLC sixteen minutes, and

651
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: we know she reportedly donated a half a million dollars

652
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: of her own money and partnered with the Community Foundation

653
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: of Tennessee to get the nonprofits started. But what we

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00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: don't know is how much this charity made or what

655
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: they really did. But they are accepting donations to this day.

656
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: Don't donate there, but at the time the nonprofit was announced,

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00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: Haley said.

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00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: Ever since my life churned so publicly, I realized there

659
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: had to be a reason for it, said Haley Walsh.

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Speaker 1: Growing up, the one constant in my life was my pets,

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Speaker 1: and they helped me get through so much. By starting

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Speaker 1: Haley Walsh's pause across America, my new found financial blessings

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Speaker 1: will be shared with the animals that need it most.

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Speaker 2: And at the time this got Haley a fair amount

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Speaker 2: of goodwill. Here she is acknowledging that her fame materialized

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Speaker 2: out of kind of nowhere, as much of the media

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Speaker 2: surrounding her had indicated, and that she wanted to do

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Speaker 2: something productive with it. The management machine that she had

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Speaker 2: brought on to protect and expand her influence continued to

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Speaker 2: work behind the scenes. The next day, Haley's ex account

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Speaker 2: was back posting memes, this time with Haley's face on

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Speaker 2: a crypto coin, and three days later, she and Chelsea

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Speaker 2: are at the Celebrity Poker Tournament, which, to no one's surprise,

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Speaker 2: was her first poker game, and she appeared to have

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Speaker 2: no previous interest in it. In my opinion, clearly the

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Speaker 2: management has a mission here, but before we can get there, Yes,

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Speaker 2: It's time to talk Talk to whose trailer launched on

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Speaker 2: September two, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: She's literally doing anything to stay round.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone actually give a fuck about her? Why are

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Speaker 2: we keeping this goal relevant?

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Speaker 3: Your fifteen minutes are up?

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Speaker 2: Your joke was funny for two days. Stop y'all really

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Speaker 2: thought I was done.

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Speaker 9: I'm just getting.

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Speaker 4: Started, baby.

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Speaker 2: Incidentally, all of the clips of podcast conversations that follow

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Speaker 2: in this trailer are never actually aired, as is referenced

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Speaker 2: on the podcast months later by Jake Paul himself. It

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Speaker 2: appears that the entire first round of interviews conducted were

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Speaker 2: never aired due to being weird, stilted, or combative on

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Speaker 2: the part of the guests, meaning Jake Paul. In the trailer,

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Speaker 2: the conversations are with z internet appealing guests talking to

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Speaker 2: Haley outside with a campfire, while the eventual show happens

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Speaker 2: in a more conventional studio setting with the obligatory fluorescent

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Speaker 2: sign that says talk to U. But even if none

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Speaker 2: of this footage ever ends up airing, the trailer effectively

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Speaker 2: teases the idea of the podcast it appears on Jake

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Speaker 2: Paul's network. It features real conversations with the coolest guests,

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Speaker 2: and it teases what becomes a running, if uninteresting question

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Speaker 2: throughout the show's run. Who is hooky? I'll spoil that

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Speaker 2: for you, poog. The key is Hailey's on again, off

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Speaker 2: again boyfriend, who is a seemingly nice plumber from her

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Speaker 2: hometown named Kelby. He's around her age. She seems fine.

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Speaker 2: But don't let this deter you from the podcast message,

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Speaker 2: which is essentially who's booking?

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Speaker 4: He might stop that too, Subscribe it that day.

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Speaker 2: The announcement for the podcast in the Hollywood Reporter read

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Speaker 2: as follows.

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Speaker 10: Welch is set to host the podcast Talk Toua as

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Speaker 10: part of the Better Banner, with the first episode debuting

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Speaker 10: September tenth on social, digital and audio platforms. The weekly

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Speaker 10: podcast will see Welch showcasing her comedic style and Southern

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Speaker 10: charm through a blend of interviews, lively discussions, and humorous moments.

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Speaker 2: So if you listen to the sixteenth minute Manisphere series,

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Speaker 2: this might sound a little familiar. The just having Funny

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Speaker 2: Conversations formula is very similar to all the most successful

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Speaker 2: right leaning podcasts that populate the man of Spere every day.

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Speaker 2: But at this point, Hailey was a mainstream figure, so

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Speaker 2: most reactions to the announcement of Talk to were either

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Speaker 2: tongue in cheek finally, or the more boring, lamenting that

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Speaker 2: the podcast signified the end of the world, as every

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Speaker 2: Haley Welch news development seemed to tease out. At the time,

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Speaker 2: the audience was barstool conservatives. But as I said in

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Speaker 2: our first part, I still firmly believe that I am

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Speaker 2: the only person who have ever truly watched every single

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Speaker 2: episode of Talk to A But before we delve into

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Speaker 2: my psychosis, what's more interesting than the actual content of

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Speaker 2: the podcast is the way that Haley and her management

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Speaker 2: go in terms of aligning her with Jake Paul, the one,

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Speaker 2: the only, the unfortunate. More on that motherfucker when we

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Speaker 2: come back. Welcome back to sixteenth minute, and we are

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Speaker 2: at a critical point in Hailey Welch's social media career

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Speaker 2: where she puts her trust in one of the worst

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Speaker 2: men on the planet and his brother, who is a

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Speaker 2: close second. You can really put either brother in either position.

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Speaker 2: Logan and Jake Paul are an entity unto themselves, but

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Speaker 2: the brothers became famous online when they were even younger

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Speaker 2: than Haley, blowing up on vine in the mid twenty

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Speaker 2: ten's in Ohio. They started posting regularly when Logan was

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Speaker 2: twelve and Jake was ten. Here's Logan's first YouTube video,

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Speaker 2: Can I Have a Drink?

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Speaker 11: The What's that called?

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Speaker 9: Again?

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Speaker 2: Already obnoxious, but the Paul brothers have run the gamut

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Speaker 2: of what internets access can look like pretty cleanly, straddling

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Speaker 2: second generation Internet pre COVID to remind you of what

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Speaker 2: that playbook was like. This was all about moving to La,

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Speaker 2: becoming daily vloggers and prank YouTubers, and being at the

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Speaker 2: very front of the hype house trend.

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Speaker 9: Back up.

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Speaker 14: Wow, I never thought I would say this, Well, welcome

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Speaker 14: home Jake Powler's We Made It mob We Flipped Made It.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Jake Polish, what flippant go change? Today is

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Speaker 14: off to a flipping amazing start. We're moving into the

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Speaker 14: new Team ten house. We already got the flipping car

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Speaker 14: part in the driveway. I mean, come on, it's official.

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Speaker 2: Maybe still the most famous high posts to this day.

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Speaker 2: Jake Paul's Team ten was omnipotent online in the mid

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Speaker 2: to late twenty tens, but for the brothers, tasering two

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Speaker 2: dead rats and getting demonetized on YouTube later, as well

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Speaker 2: as both having terrible, botched rap careers that were mostly

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Speaker 2: just plugs for merch. Here's one of Logan's worst and

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Speaker 2: I heard.

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Speaker 3: You from the North, but I'm from Ohio.

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Speaker 10: Christmas round the corner.

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Speaker 14: Get your merch thinking biou you Marrie, Yeah boy, I'm

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Speaker 14: the maty.

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Speaker 5: Why you freely zart.

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Speaker 2: The brothers found that they had to continue pivoting because

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Speaker 2: they were getting canceled intermittently for truly horrific stuff. At

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Speaker 2: age twenty three, older than Haley Welch is right now

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Speaker 2: and well into his internet fame, Logan Paul famously made

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Speaker 2: content in the quote unquote Japanese suicide forest for clickbait,

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Speaker 2: hosting videos of recently deceased bodies while joking and making

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Speaker 2: YouTube thumbnail face about it. Not only is this truly disgusting,

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Speaker 2: but keep in mind that the audience for the Paul

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Speaker 2: Brothers at the time were overwhelmingly children, and by extension,

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Speaker 2: this put Logan Paul at the forefront of the disingenuous

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Speaker 2: YouTube apology format. I've made a severe and continuous lapse

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Speaker 2: in my judgment and I don't expect to be forgiven.

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Speaker 2: I'm simply here to apologize, but Jake and Logan persisted

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Speaker 2: cleanly into Web three point zero, the post COVID era,

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00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: defined by long, meandering YouTube podcast with conspiracy theorists pivoting

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Speaker 2: to boxing, an NFT scam called crypto Zoo that, from

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Speaker 2: what I can tell, sold NFTs of zoo, animal stock images,

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Speaker 2: military defense startups, abandoning their pet pigs, going full Trump,

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Speaker 2: and donating five figures to his twenty twenty four fundraising efforts,

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Speaker 2: interviewing Trump and solidifying the Paul's place in the New

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Speaker 2: manisphere of late twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Give a fight, you brother, not in real life.

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Speaker 5: You've practiced a little bit.

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Speaker 11: Never We've never even sparred, but I was willing to

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Speaker 11: step in from Mike Tyson when Tyson got sick, and

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Speaker 11: we actually ran it up the chain in that foot.

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Speaker 3: It's hard for brothers to fight, though, well.

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Speaker 10: Me and Jake decided we both come from a place

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Speaker 10: of love.

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Speaker 2: That was Logan and in Jake's case, pertinently to this story,

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Speaker 2: a sports betting app called Better, which eventually brought on

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Speaker 2: some podcasts to basically promote the app. And that's thankfully

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Speaker 2: all you need to know about the Paul Brothers for

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Speaker 2: the purposes of this show, but keep in mind what

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Speaker 2: the Paul Brothers have in common with Haley Welch. They

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00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: became famous at random online, but they, unlike her, are

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00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: made of teflon. The more they're canceled, the further right

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Speaker 2: and audience they court, which is pretty normal practice at

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Speaker 2: this point. But I do think the fact that their

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Speaker 2: men makes it a lot easier for them to keep

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Speaker 2: bouncing back, because white guys are the people we're conditioned

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Speaker 2: to give redemption. Arcs two and I know a lot

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Speaker 2: of that sounded vague and didn't attribute things to one

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Speaker 2: brother or the other, but to be honest, I'm not

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Speaker 2: paid enough to tell them apart. But having done all

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Speaker 2: this stuff and still remaining successful enough for the recent

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Speaker 2: Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson, a convicted rapist Netflix boxing match,

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Speaker 2: to become one of the most successful stream sports events ever,

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Speaker 2: it's bleak. The Polls have found a lot of success

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Speaker 2: doing whatever the most annoying profitable thing to do is

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Speaker 2: in any given online moment, and as much as I

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Speaker 2: hate to hand it to them, they've pioneered a lot

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Speaker 2: of annoying scammy trends over the last decade, and it's

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Speaker 2: the younger Paul Jake, who founded the Better app and

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Speaker 2: bravely fought that convicted rapist two and a half times

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Speaker 2: his age on the world's largest streaming platform, who ends

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Speaker 2: up seeing an opportunity in Haley Welch enter talk to A.

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Speaker 2: But it almost wasn't called talk to A. Check this out.

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Speaker 7: So it's a really good name for the podcast. I was,

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Speaker 7: I was very right there a girl.

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Speaker 3: It's really good.

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Speaker 11: I do.

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Speaker 3: Look a few different ones like what else do you?

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Speaker 3: Was you get me?

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Speaker 4: And then there was this one. What was the other one?

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Speaker 4: Sweet tea sixteen minutes, A little smarter, it's like.

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Speaker 2: But you might remember. People were frustrated to see Haley

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Speaker 2: expand her influence, some because she was trying to capitalize

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Speaker 2: on the attention, and in my case, because aligning yourself

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Speaker 2: with the Paul Brothers is a bad sign. Not a

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Speaker 2: surprising call, to be clear, because the appearances that Haley

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Speaker 2: had made thus far fell somewhere between center libertarian right.

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Speaker 2: So people freaked out about cancel culture and making dick

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Speaker 2: jokes as a full time job well into their forties.

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Speaker 2: But what's interesting is that many of these appearances and

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Speaker 2: early guests are pretty even split of people who are

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Speaker 2: either ten or more years older than Haley is or

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Speaker 2: people currently employed by Barstool Sports, so it is clear

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Speaker 2: what media group she's falling into, and it's a lucrative

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Speaker 2: group of people. And while some of them are mainstream names,

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Speaker 2: most are niche popular or got their start on the

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Speaker 2: Internet and seem to have been chosen to pull in

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Speaker 2: a wider audience for Hayley, from younger guests like Jojo

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Speaker 2: Siwa and country singer Dasha to high profile comedians like

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Speaker 2: Hannah Burner and Whitney Cummings to more popular, center to

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Speaker 2: conservative podcast hosts like Brooks Schofield, Caitlin Bristow and Breonna

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Speaker 2: Chicken fry De, Teke Adjason Bros. And business bros like

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Speaker 2: Jake Paul Whiz Khalifa and I'm not kidding Mark Hubin.

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Speaker 2: That man will talk to fucking anyone. So as the

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Speaker 2: talk to a historian du jour, I'm convinced what happens

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Speaker 2: on this show that's worth discussing because most of the

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Speaker 2: comments on the YouTube releases of the podcast, which peak

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Speaker 2: at two point seven million views on the debut episode

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Speaker 2: and reach their low at around a quarter million views,

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Speaker 2: as well as charting on conventional podcast charts. Most commenters

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Speaker 2: don't appear to be watching the show.

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Speaker 10: I'm a forty one year old surgeon mid operation. I

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Speaker 10: got an important message that the Talk toua podcast was released.

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Speaker 10: I dropped everything and rushed home immediately. Thank you for

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Speaker 10: saving my life.

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Speaker 8: Talk Tua currently fighting on the frontlines in Ukraine and

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Speaker 8: everyone has called truce to watch episode one of the

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Speaker 8: Talk Tua podcast. Amen.

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Speaker 10: I was in the middle of driving a school bus

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Speaker 10: full of kids on the highway when I got this notification.

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Speaker 10: I jumped out of the bus, causing a nineteen cop

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Speaker 10: pile up, just to run home and watch this podcast.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, missus, Talktua. You are truly inspiration.

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Speaker 2: So what happens when you do listen to the show.

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Speaker 2: Here's a short tour In episode one with Whitney Cummings,

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00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: we learned that the podcast is being recorded in la

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Speaker 2: as well as are introduced to the people who Haley

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00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: is surrounded by more or less constantly. There is, of

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Speaker 2: course Chelsea, who serves as a coh who they cut

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00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: to every once in a while. Also her manager Jamie,

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00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: who seems like a real piece of work and seemingly

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00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: a publicist from time to time. During episode one, Haley

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00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: talks about how she recently has taken her first flank

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00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: ever from Nashville to LA and holds her own pretty well,

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Speaker 2: although Whitney Cummings is pretty generous and encouraging about making

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Speaker 2: sure the conversation keeps moving, and there's a bone chilling

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00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: pattern established for this first time host, the transition from

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00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 2: being a spirited conversation with other people who a dead

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Speaker 2: eyed reading of an ad for Jake Paul's shitty sports

894
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: betting app but.

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Speaker 3: Like, so that's something that is such a breath of

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Speaker 3: fresh air about you. It is you know, I agree.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna be real with y'all. I was never

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00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 4: the biggest football fan. I honestly don't even get the

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Speaker 4: rules that much. But what I do know is I

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00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 4: like Kevin fun and winning money and better picks. Lets

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00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 4: you went up to a thousand times your money.

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Speaker 2: These interruptions get increasingly weird as the show continues, but

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Speaker 2: the only other thing really worth mentioning here is that

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Speaker 2: Whitney Cummings gives Hayle the following misleading reassurance at the

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Speaker 2: end of her appearance.

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Speaker 11: So, no, I'm proud of the people you've surrounded yourself with,

907
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 11: because that makes or breaks you mentally, financially says everything.

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Speaker 3: So you have amazing taste in humans.

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00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 2: Whoops. Pass forward to episode three with Caitlin Bristow, where

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Speaker 2: Haley shares the following terrifying prophetic dream.

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Speaker 4: So, I actually had a dream about Matt Rife a

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Speaker 4: few weeks ago, and it like traumatized me a little bit.

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Speaker 4: This man he come out, He's like, just give me

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00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 4: a minute, you know, I'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay.

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Speaker 4: He comes back and he's like looking at me off

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Speaker 4: of weirds. I was like, okay, I need to get

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00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 4: away from him. I start running from him and hide

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Speaker 4: in this closet and there's a bunch of dead girls

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00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: in this closet and I get in it.

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00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: He still killed, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I'm like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 4: He opens the door and finds me, and I like

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Speaker 4: dart in between his legs and run out and then

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Speaker 4: I'm in a cornfield somehow, and then he runs out

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Speaker 4: with an axe and starts like cutting on my ankle.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Episode four, Haley's asked by guest Dasha

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Speaker 2: about her mental health whatever.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes yeah, okay, if you read like some main shit

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Speaker 4: like on an off day, you're like, damn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what if they're right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Episode five, Haley acknowledges her fucked up in traumatic childhood.

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Speaker 2: You had like a crazy childhood.

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Speaker 4: I had a very fucked up childhood.

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, damn, I'm a granny baby. Was that like like

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Speaker 4: my granny raised me?

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Speaker 9: Oh wait, same as my girlfriend?

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Speaker 2: Episode seven, the five million teaser of who is Pooky

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00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: turns into yet another sports gambling ad.

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Speaker 4: All right, child big Announcement's time for their revel And

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Speaker 4: now I'm not talking about Pooky, and I'm talking about

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Speaker 4: the best offer for this NBA season. In honor of

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00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 4: basketball being bat all new and existing users will get

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Speaker 4: a deposit match on better picks.

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Speaker 2: Now Chelsea is in the ads as well, but she

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00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: doesn't really say anything. She just stares vacantly into the

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Speaker 2: middle distance. And it's around this part of the show

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Speaker 2: where guests will regularly quiz Haley on things she doesn't know,

951
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: making her look charmingly uninformed for not knowing who figure

952
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: like Plato and Socrates are. For all of its silliness,

953
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: it's pretty dull, but as talked to a chugs along.

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00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: Haley reaches a few more benchmarks of cultural relevance, including

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Speaker 2: the classic weird ASNL reference, come to.

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Speaker 13: Me, today's celebrity contestants, We've got the viral sensation of

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Speaker 13: the summer, the somehow famous for one sentence, Hailey.

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Speaker 5: Welch huh tooy spit on that side?

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00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: That's the one yep in late September, and she made

960
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 2: more inroads with the conservative tech community by joining Kick

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Speaker 2: in early October, Kick being the streaming platform where most

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Speaker 2: people go after they've been kicked off of Twitch for

963
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: saying a slur. On Kick, she live streams her appearance

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Speaker 2: at a gamer conference. Gaily also makes repeated attempts on

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00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: X to meet Michael Saylor, a bitcoin billionaire who, of

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Speaker 2: course has been to court for tax fraud. On X,

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00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: she repeatedly tries to saddle up to eat La Musk,

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Speaker 2: hosting a number of AI photoshops as that scary Tesla robot,

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00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 2: as well as advocating to free Ross Ulbricht, who's currently

970
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Speaker 2: serving a life sentence for running the darknet monolith Silk Road.

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Speaker 2: While Haley never advocates for Trump explicitly, the way she's

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Speaker 2: saddled up to mostly his supporters, gives you an idea

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00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: of the audience she's interested in. On October ninth, mister Beast,

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Speaker 2: a tremendously successful YouTuber who recently got engaged to try

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00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: to distract from his ongoing reputation troubles, rented out an

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Speaker 2: entire movie theater to watch Talk Tua on the big screen,

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Speaker 2: captioning it as follows.

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Speaker 10: Pov you rent a theater to watch Talk Tua, listen

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00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 10: to the thick of It by KSI, and eat Lunchley, which.

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Speaker 2: In case you have a life, is a canceled YouTuber

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Speaker 2: named mister Beast watching a crypto fraud flash in the

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Speaker 2: Pan Influencer's podcast Haley Welch while listening to rapper Slash

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Speaker 2: Logan Paul's best friend Slash co business owner ks I

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00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: while eating Lunchly. Lunchley is, or maybe it was at

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Speaker 2: this point I just checked is a lunchables competitor founded

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Speaker 2: by Ksi, Logan, Paul and mister Beast that famously has

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00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: a lot of disgusting mold in it. Anyways, nice plug

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00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: for talk to by mister Beast. Of course, the reason

989
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: mister Beast did that was synergy Lunchley is a Paul

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00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 2: endeavor and Hailey is an employee of the Paul family,

991
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: and that synergy goes both ways. Once the Jake Paul

992
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: versus Mike Tyson fight is announced on Netflix, Haley and

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00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: Chelsea constantly joke about it, mentioned that they're attending, encourage

994
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: others to watch, and jokingly pretend to be rooting for

995
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: convicted rapist Mike Tyson. We have to keep moving. Episode nine,

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Speaker 2: released a week before the twenty twenty four election. This

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00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: ad appears, Chelsea, us, what what is it this time?

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00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 4: Did you know you can bet on the election.

999
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 8: Like you can bet on who's going to be president.

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00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's this new app called Koushi.

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00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 8: No way, I gotta see this for myself.

1002
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you can bet on different events too.

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00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: No way, I've got to see it for myself. Episode ten,

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00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: Jake Paul appears ahead of his dumb ass Netflix fight

1005
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: and goes full Trump.

1006
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 15: Then there still be the hate of oh, fight someone

1007
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 15: your own age, because people are brain dead, actually, and

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00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 15: they don't look at the actual facts, which is probably

1009
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 15: why a lot of people are voting for Kamala Harris.

1010
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 15: But it's a sad world out there.

1011
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: In this episode, Hayley's boyfriend Pooky aka Kelby, is revealed

1012
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: and immediately starts doing a sports gambling ad with her.

1013
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 4: Pooky, I got a surprise for you.

1014
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: Nothing you do surprises me anymore.

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00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 4: Game times hooking us up. We're gonna be able to

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00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 4: get some good tickets here. You pick pick your top

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00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 4: three and then I'll pick out of those.

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00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 15: Can it be a game a concert?

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00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 5: I can choose anything?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: And speaking of Pooky, the day after he appears on

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Speaker 2: Talk Toua, Hailey and her team launch her first and

1023
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Speaker 2: possibly her last, app, called Pooky Tools. Why Not I've

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00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: downloaded the app, but refused to pay to use it,

1025
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: although most reviews indicate that while it markets itself as

1026
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: a dating app, it mainly seems to be an AI

1027
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: tool that tells you how tall someone is when you

1028
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: point your phone at it, and much like the podcast,

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00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: it's unclear if anyone has ever actually used Pooky Tools,

1030
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: because all of the reviews on the app store seemed

1031
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: to be jokes, such as where do I begin?

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00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 10: This app has absolutely ruined my life. I can't believe

1033
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 10: Hailey Welch, the creator of Talk Tua, would do this

1034
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 10: to me I now have a court here for domestic

1035
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 10: violence charges against me and drunk driving, which both didn't happen.

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Speaker 10: I thought this app would help me get all the

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Speaker 10: huzz but I did not. I am very disappointed Hailey Welch,

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Speaker 10: but I do love talk to him.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry. The jokes become increasingly sexually violent as you scroll.

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Speaker 2: Episode eleven is whiz Khalifa promoting his bespoke weed brand.

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Speaker 2: Episode twelve is Mark Cuban, who both talks to Chelsea

1042
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Speaker 2: and Pooky about how Haley takes massive shits and more

1043
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: interestingly explicitly warrens Haley Welch not to go into crypto.

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Speaker 2: Check out this transition in this episode. I kind of

1045
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Speaker 2: love it.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 4: It's rough out.

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Speaker 5: Here, It is really rough out here. But I have

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Speaker 5: no found respect for you.

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Speaker 9: Hailey.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, right, thank you the win.

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Speaker 2: Do you do anything with crypto?

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Speaker 3: I do a lot with crypto?

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Speaker 2: Actually, Okay, let's hear the rest of the clip.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and can I give you some Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I'll you Okay, are you sure you're gonna watch? I

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Speaker 9: don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a big a fan about meme coins. I

1059
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Speaker 3: love crypto, but but you could make some money from it.

1060
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Speaker 11: There's no doubt about it, no doubt about it.

1061
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: So a weird, cautious endorsement where a Cuban is basically like, yeah,

1062
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: meme coins are a scam, but you could make money

1063
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: off of it, sure enough. And on the final episode

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Speaker 2: of Talk to A Thus Far, episode twelve titled How

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Speaker 2: Not to Get Canceled, released on December third. It's not

1066
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: a great episode, but it might be the final episode

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Speaker 2: of Talk to A we ever get because it was

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Speaker 2: released just one day before Haley Welch's meme coin dropped

1069
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Speaker 2: and very possibly vaporized her career altogether. Talk to A

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Speaker 2: falls so a crypto scam can emerge, and that's next

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Speaker 2: time on our final part of the hawk Tuit trilogy

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Speaker 2: on sixteenth Minute. Sixteenth Minute is a production of Pool

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Speaker 2: Zone Media and iHeart Radio. It is written, posted, and

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Speaker 2: produced by me Jamie Rostis. Our executive producers are Sophie

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Speaker 2: Lickterman and Robert Evans leamasing Ian Johnson is our supervising

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Speaker 2: producer and our editor.

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Speaker 5: Our theme song.

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Speaker 2: Is by Sad thirteen. Voice acting is from Grant Crater

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Speaker 2: and pet Shout outs to our dog producer Anderson My

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Speaker 2: Kat's flea Casper, and by pet Rothbert, who will outlive

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Speaker 2: us all Bye.