Speaker 1: What's up my loves.
Speaker 2: Speaking of loves, I have my love back to co
Speaker 2: host or I guess not really co host, but host.
Speaker 3: Don't I own this show with you?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's give them Lala, we Thrandall and we are
Speaker 2: super hyped for a couple of reasons. First off, we
Speaker 2: have Heather McDonald's on the podcast today.
Speaker 3: She was a friend of our.
Speaker 4: Well, I just want to say, who's a friend of ours,
Speaker 4: but also someone we both look up to. Heather McDonald's
Speaker 4: one of the greatest comedians out there today. She's unbelievable.
Speaker 4: She was on Chelsea Handler for seven years and then
Speaker 4: she went on to just create her own powerhouse of
Speaker 4: a world.
Speaker 3: And she's a.
Speaker 4: Best selling author. She's a podcaster, she's a live.
Speaker 2: Stand up one of the funniest people that I've ever
Speaker 2: come in contact with. Like, when I'm with her, I
Speaker 2: just want to listen to her talk because every story
Speaker 2: is hilarious.
Speaker 3: Good, right, I want to set you up here, set
Speaker 3: me up.
Speaker 4: We have a gigantic announcement. It's as big as it gets.
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's like front page headline
Speaker 4: for US.
Speaker 3: Laala is going to tell you all that we have
Speaker 3: something huge to announce.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, give them Lalla with Randall is going on
Speaker 2: motherfucking tour.
Speaker 3: I mean real tour, not.
Speaker 2: A pretend tour, a real life, we will see you
Speaker 2: in person tour.
Speaker 4: So I just want to tell everybody and then Laala
Speaker 4: will get into the rest that tickets are going to
Speaker 4: go on sale. Please write this down because the only
Speaker 4: thing that matters. Tickets are going on sale this Friday
Speaker 4: at ten am.
Speaker 3: So that means everybody. If you want to come to
Speaker 3: the Give them.
Speaker 4: Laala dot dot dot with Randall Tour, you have to
Speaker 4: buy your tickets Friday or over the weekend starting at
Speaker 4: ten am.
Speaker 3: Go ahead and tell the details.
Speaker 2: We are going to be hitting up Dallas, Austin, Houston,
Speaker 2: New Orleans, Fort Lauderdale, Clearwater, Orlando, and Georgia.
Speaker 1: Go to our.
Speaker 2: Instagram pages immediately to check out when we will be
Speaker 2: in your city or a city near you. This is
Speaker 2: going to be so lit. Let's like take out the
Speaker 2: fact that we've been cooped up for over a year.
Speaker 2: I just think it's going to be entertaining and funn
Speaker 2: as shit.
Speaker 4: How about how about we've been in COVID for a
Speaker 4: year and almost almost a year and a half and
Speaker 4: the fact that we get to go live.
Speaker 3: Everybody gets to come out of our house.
Speaker 1: That's literally what I just said.
Speaker 3: I'm repeating it in a much.
Speaker 1: More exciting way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, get to come out of our house, come
Speaker 3: to the theater. You know, Interact have just been an epic
Speaker 3: time and I just want to say that this is
Speaker 3: something that we've wanted to do for a long time.
Speaker 4: We cannot wait to meet everybody you, especially because you
Speaker 4: have a lot of fans. I'm excited if just to
Speaker 4: meet my five or six fans, you are excited to
Speaker 4: meet your five hundred and fifty fans, And this is
Speaker 4: just going to be an epic night.
Speaker 2: Well, the show is obviously going to consist of a
Speaker 2: lot of Randall and la la banter. I think it's
Speaker 2: like the perfect I like to call it a girl's
Speaker 2: night out, but let's be honest. I know all of
Speaker 2: you out there who have boyfriends or husbands that sit
Speaker 2: there and they're like, why do you watch this show?
Speaker 1: And then you turn around.
Speaker 2: And they're like sitting there watching the entire show with you,
Speaker 2: meaning Vanner Pump Rules. So lord knows, this show is
Speaker 2: going to be for everybody, even though I know that
Speaker 2: my girls who know how to you know, fuck shit up,
Speaker 2: are gonna be there because it's going to be like,
Speaker 2: We're obviously going to have some great drinks. We're going
Speaker 2: to have an incredible format for the show.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have behind the scenes stories, correct interactive games.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have segments, We're gonna have audience participation, We're
Speaker 3: gonna have all types of thing.
Speaker 4: It's a wild night out you've been dreaming about. And
Speaker 4: I just want to say, tickets again, go on sale
Speaker 4: because Lawa doesn't like to promote this part when I
Speaker 4: get to details. Tickets go on sale Friday at ten am.
Speaker 4: You could buy your tickets at give them live dot com,
Speaker 4: Give them live dot Com. There's also a very limited
Speaker 4: number of VIP meet and Greek packages. Yes, and we
Speaker 4: are not the kind of meet and Greek that you like.
Speaker 4: Come in and it's like, how are you tell them what.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do?
Speaker 2: No, I want to like, I want to drop it
Speaker 2: to you, about it all, ask me whatever. I want
Speaker 2: to spill the tea. I want to get to know you.
Speaker 2: I want to take pictures. I want to post you
Speaker 2: on my Instagram. I want to throw you a tag
Speaker 2: plus plus we will have special guests at each city weekends.
Speaker 3: We're gonna tell you already we've already asked. I'm dropping it.
Speaker 4: We have already asked DJ James Kennedy to be our
Speaker 4: one of our special guests DJs. So we're gonna have
Speaker 4: him with us for a couple of shows. And we're
Speaker 4: very excited that.
Speaker 2: I'm the most excited for me because I'm so excited
Speaker 2: I can't even talk.
Speaker 1: I am because it's like nerve wracking.
Speaker 2: No, but having James is like James is like the
Speaker 2: boy and obviously, which means we'll have.
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna have to have Verqul's gonna have to
Speaker 4: be up on stage with us and run through some segments. Anyway,
Speaker 4: we are doing some really fun things and I think
Speaker 4: we don't want to give away the show, but we
Speaker 4: can say this. Lala has made it a give them
Speaker 4: Laala experience. So I can promise you all because I've
Speaker 4: been there as she's you know, we're creating this together,
Speaker 4: but as she is really putting her lallaisms into it,
Speaker 4: I think that none of you will be disappointed. I
Speaker 4: think it's a girl's night out. I think that I'm
Speaker 4: invited just by association. I don't think i'd really be invited,
Speaker 4: but I want to tell you that behind the scenes VIP,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. The meet and greet VIP thing that Laala
Speaker 4: has created is gonna be really cool because we're gonna
Speaker 4: have like people that are of age and drink. We're
Speaker 4: gonna have shots, cheers backstage, and we're gonna do like
Speaker 4: really fun shit. We're gonna make it really really fun.
Speaker 4: And I want I mean, I wish I could tell
Speaker 4: you everything, but I could promise you this very interactive,
Speaker 4: very audience involved.
Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to feel like I invited people to
Speaker 2: like chill with me one on one, Like that's what
Speaker 2: I want. I don't want it to feel like I just,
Speaker 2: you know, sold tickets and it's like, hey, what's up.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, you get to kick it with me.
Speaker 2: You get a kick it with me, I get a
Speaker 2: kick it with you. We're all going to kick it
Speaker 2: with each other.
Speaker 3: That is correct.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 3: Get You're gonna get the Lala. You're gonna get all
Speaker 3: Laala on this show.
Speaker 2: I'm excited because obviously without you guys listening to the
Speaker 2: podcast or.
Speaker 1: You know, giving a single shit about me.
Speaker 2: I don't get to go on tour, so this is
Speaker 2: a huge deal for Randall and myself and I just
Speaker 2: can't wait to meet all of you guys.
Speaker 3: Yes, So that's the big news of this week again Friday,
Speaker 3: one more time. Case you just dropped dropping in to
Speaker 3: listen ten am give them live dot com. Fuck go
Speaker 3: to Lala's instagram. You'll see more details there. But tickets
Speaker 3: are on sales Friday. We can't wait to see everybody.
Speaker 3: I am very very honored. I hope I have five
Speaker 3: SIP fans in every city.
Speaker 2: But people love you, rand I think you're gonna see
Speaker 2: that starting, you know, on our first in our first city,
Speaker 2: which is Dallas, Texas House of Blues on November thirty.
Speaker 3: It's that's the first I have friends in every city.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to make sure five people of my
Speaker 4: friends get tickets so that when like I come out
Speaker 4: for my little thing or whatever. Yeah, you know, they're
Speaker 4: like cheering, and then you think, and I've gotten really
Speaker 4: like popular, but really it's like my friends that I paid,
Speaker 4: Oh dude, like I'm going to buy their tickets for
Speaker 4: them because they won't even probably buy them to see me.
Speaker 2: No, maybe well they'll buy them to see me, So
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 4: I don't know if we're there anyway. We're really excited, guys,
Speaker 4: and that's like a big deal. And we've worked hard
Speaker 4: on this and it was probably it was going to
Speaker 4: happen earlier and then pandemic kicked in and kicked all.
Speaker 3: Of our asses.
Speaker 1: But I'll take it whenever I can get it.
Speaker 4: But by the way, can I tell you something, I
Speaker 4: am so excited to be out at you know, at
Speaker 4: this time on tour because to meet people and hang
Speaker 4: out and just have the most fun we can have.
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a great experience for everybody.
Speaker 4: So this Friday, buy your tickets and and uh and
Speaker 4: we'll see soon.
Speaker 2: Now back to our podcast, back to back to our podcast.
Speaker 2: So we, like I said, are having Heather McDonald on.
Speaker 2: And also even though like she got her star as
Speaker 2: stand up comedian, she has the most epic podcast in
Speaker 2: the entire world.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys follow her, it's.
Speaker 3: A huge podcast, Like it's somebody we look.
Speaker 2: Up to, and it really is the juiciest of all scoops.
Speaker 2: Like every time I look at her promoting her next podcast,
Speaker 2: I can't wait to listen because she fuacking puts in
Speaker 2: the work. She puts in the work.
Speaker 1: To find the juicy scoop.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 2: So I have a question for you before we get
Speaker 2: Heather on here. Yeah, how do you like being a
Speaker 2: Vanner pump Roules cast member?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not a vander pump Roles cast member.
Speaker 1: I love to tear you refer.
Speaker 3: To me as that. Not that I have any disrespect.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm a movie film I'm a film director
Speaker 4: and film producer.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely correct. In fact, you just were in Florida
Speaker 2: for one of.
Speaker 4: The I I was for the first screening at the
Speaker 4: Gasparilla Film Festival of Midnight and Switchgrass or Movie with
Speaker 4: Megan Fox from Shinga and Kelly Emil Hirsch.
Speaker 3: So we had our first screening, a bunch of actors, fluent.
Speaker 4: We had our first screening in a real theater, first
Speaker 4: time I've been in a real theater and almost a
Speaker 4: year and a half. It went great, And now we
Speaker 4: have the world premiere coming up July nineteenth in La
Speaker 4: So it's very exciting.
Speaker 2: But yes, what's that going to be like for you?
Speaker 2: Because you've been to a million and one premieres as
Speaker 2: a producer. As a producer, what's it going to be
Speaker 2: like your first It's like your directorial debut for real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, i'll tell you.
Speaker 4: Even in Tampa at the premiere, I was very emotional
Speaker 4: because it was my first premiere as a director and
Speaker 4: it's a very different thing. I was petrified. I was nervous.
Speaker 3: You know. I had all the actors around me, so
Speaker 3: I felt like pretty safe because it was like.
Speaker 2: By all of your actors have been very supportive of
Speaker 2: the film. And you know when I say that, I'm
Speaker 2: sure everyone's like, well, of course they were supportive.
Speaker 5: Of the film.
Speaker 1: But there are many actors.
Speaker 2: Who are not behind the films that they're in. I
Speaker 2: don't want to say a lot, but there's been actors
Speaker 2: who don't back up the film.
Speaker 3: It happens all the time.
Speaker 4: I produced over one hundred and fifteen hundred and eighteen movies,
Speaker 4: and there's movies where the movie just doesn't work well
Speaker 4: and talent doesn't always get behind it. But at the
Speaker 4: same time, there are movies all over the place.
Speaker 3: I think. I think when you have cast that really.
Speaker 4: Believes in the film, like the cast I have who
Speaker 4: really believed in it from the beginning, and then we
Speaker 4: lived through a pandemic together. You know, it took us
Speaker 4: nine months to finish a movie, which is not normal
Speaker 4: for a small independent film. I think really brought us
Speaker 4: all together. So I'm very, very proud of the relationships
Speaker 4: I have with everybody.
Speaker 2: Tell our listeners how many views the trailer got when
Speaker 2: it came out?
Speaker 4: Well, worldwide impressions is what the studio tells me, is
Speaker 4: like the test, like how many impressions on all platforms, trailer, this,
Speaker 4: that articles, everything? Okay, they called me and they had
Speaker 4: said got north of three billion impressions, which is like
Speaker 4: for a small indie movie, is a lot. So it's
Speaker 4: pretty exciting part of this.
Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know the film we're
Speaker 2: talking about, let's tell them again.
Speaker 4: It's Midnight in the Switchgrass opens in July. You can
Speaker 4: go to Midnight and switch Grass and see the trailer
Speaker 4: and check it out. I'm really really proud of it.
Speaker 4: I you know, I am nervous. I'm because the first
Speaker 4: the screening in Florida, that's like my home state, that's
Speaker 4: that festival is like a home.
Speaker 1: Festival for Yeah, that's close to your heart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was a it was a local festival
Speaker 4: that I wanted to kind of put the film first,
Speaker 4: somewhere where I kind of knew and it was and
Speaker 4: it was festival that was happening at the right time
Speaker 4: for us.
Speaker 3: Where the film was ready right.
Speaker 4: And now the premiere will happen and next month here
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles, which a lot of my peers and
Speaker 4: colleagues will come and you know, and that will be
Speaker 4: the real judge and then and that will open.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I'm very proud.
Speaker 4: It's very different going to a movie premiere as a
Speaker 4: director because it's like your baby. You created something, worked hard,
Speaker 4: and then you're releasing it to the world for judgment,
Speaker 4: and whereas as a producer, it's your baby. But the
Speaker 4: film is always going to be a director's and you know,
Speaker 4: a director's baby more and more so because they're the
Speaker 4: ones who will get judged on the quality of the
Speaker 4: film more so than a producer will. So I understand
Speaker 4: now you know what it's like to go to a
Speaker 4: premier as a director, which is very different as a producer.
Speaker 4: You know, you show up and you're excited and you're celebrating.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't have the nerves that let's say
Speaker 3: a director has because he put his heart and soul
Speaker 3: and his creative you know self into it, and he's
Speaker 3: going to be judged for that, you know, as what
Speaker 3: people think. So it's a little nerve wrecking, but but
Speaker 3: I am excited. I'm very proud, and.
Speaker 2: I think it's good for you though, Rand, because you
Speaker 2: have been in film for such a long time, and
Speaker 2: you've always wanted to be in film. At first, it
Speaker 2: was you wanted to be an actor than you wanted
Speaker 2: to be behind the camera.
Speaker 3: I was a child, I was actually right, But you've.
Speaker 2: Always wanted to be in film in any.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love movies. I love movies.
Speaker 3: I don't care what what, Yeah, I loved every part
Speaker 3: of film. Right.
Speaker 2: So, then north of one hundred films later that you've produced,
Speaker 2: I feel like you could kind of do it in
Speaker 2: your sleep. And I don't want to say that the
Speaker 2: creative juice was no longer there, but because it was
Speaker 2: such second nature to you, you needed something that could
Speaker 2: bring you back to the craft of filmmaking.
Speaker 1: And don't you feel like, yeah, just did that.
Speaker 4: I think that I was at a crossroad in my
Speaker 4: life where I felt the artistic side of me was
Speaker 4: a little stale, you know, I think that I became
Speaker 4: you know, I'm I really love producing and I'm very
Speaker 4: I think I'm pretty good at it. But but I
Speaker 4: think that, you know, it's I feel like for me,
Speaker 4: I was getting caught up more on the stresses of
Speaker 4: producing and struggles are producing and forgetting about the rewards
Speaker 4: you know, of like how how great it is just
Speaker 4: to produce.
Speaker 3: A movie, let alone multiple films.
Speaker 4: So I just felt like I needed to challenge myself
Speaker 4: and I felt like I needed to reignite that creative
Speaker 4: bugging me like I had when I first started producing.
Speaker 4: And I think directing put a lot of fear in
Speaker 4: me to try something out of my comfort zone.
Speaker 3: And I think that's why I needed to do it.
Speaker 3: And then when I did it, I didn't know how
Speaker 3: I would feel about it, Like even though I I, okay,
Speaker 3: I'll know, I'll get through the film, but will I
Speaker 3: like it, Will it be horrible? Will it suck? Will
Speaker 3: I just It's an unknown on all levels. You know,
Speaker 3: I've worked with some of the greatest filmmakers in the
Speaker 3: world that I that I look up to to this day.
Speaker 3: I called a lot of them every day and would
Speaker 3: be like, you know, I'm freaking the fuck out? Am
Speaker 3: I am? I? Am?
Speaker 4: I doing something wrong? Like if you're not freaking out,
Speaker 4: then you're then you're definitely doing something wrong. So I
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, that's not that comforting, but okay. So
Speaker 4: but anyway, so you know, I went through the process
Speaker 4: and in the end.
Speaker 3: I I really just rebirthed, you know, my creative fire
Speaker 3: and I feel so like alive when I'm directing now
Speaker 3: and when I'm creating.
Speaker 4: So I'm excited. But you know what's great about it
Speaker 4: is that directing is a medium that you're always going
Speaker 4: to be trying to master. And here I am at
Speaker 4: fifty years old, having done two movies now and getting
Speaker 4: ready to do my third as a director, and it's
Speaker 4: like it's like I'm going to be learning for a
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 3: Like this is not something that I'm just going to
Speaker 3: be like, oh, I got it in the bag, you know,
Speaker 3: let let's go on to the next.
Speaker 4: This is going to be something that that it's going
Speaker 4: to take a lot of work and focus and I
Speaker 4: love it. So I like that part of it, but
Speaker 4: I still love producing.
Speaker 3: It's just a very very.
Speaker 4: Different It's two extremes, you know, producing a lot of business,
Speaker 4: a lot of deals, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 4: you know, financial negotiation, things like that, and and then
Speaker 4: you know you're overseeing the whole process. You're not you're
Speaker 4: not doing one thing as a producer, you're overseeing every
Speaker 4: part of it. And then as a director, you're solely
Speaker 4: responsible for the creative process.
Speaker 3: And that's a big thing in itself.
Speaker 2: So, uh, yeah, it was an incredible cast to work
Speaker 2: with on your first movie directing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty awesome. You know, I was lucky
Speaker 4: that I had relationships like you know, Emil Hirsh who
Speaker 4: I was the first actor and at the table.
Speaker 2: Read, I remember that. Yeah, I was in that table read.
Speaker 3: I know you were. Yeah, and uh and yeah, and
Speaker 3: you got replaced by Megan Fox. Yeah, no, no, you
Speaker 3: you did me. You didn't get replaced.
Speaker 2: I'm joking, one hundred percent, got fucking replaced.
Speaker 3: You did not get replaced. You're trying to tell a
Speaker 3: story that's in.
Speaker 2: All honesty, like I would replace me with Megan Fox.
Speaker 4: You did, okay, but you didn't get replaced because I said,
Speaker 4: you will you do me a favor and read this
Speaker 4: role because I know you're a good actor and I said,
Speaker 4: would you read this role for me so I could
Speaker 4: hear the part out loud?
Speaker 3: And you agreed, and I and you always said, you're right.
Speaker 2: I can't be replaced on something that was never really mine.
Speaker 3: No. No, Because you and I talked to you and
Speaker 3: I talked about it where we sat.
Speaker 4: You knew that I had to cast a certain name,
Speaker 4: level of actor to get the financer.
Speaker 2: And that name was not like they were like, she's great, Randy,
Speaker 2: We really, you know, we really we love her work
Speaker 2: on vander Pumperwol's but we're thinking we just want to
Speaker 2: go another direction.
Speaker 4: No, okay, all right, no, but that's not the case.
Speaker 4: But what I am very grateful is because I do
Speaker 4: know you're a very good actor. You read the role
Speaker 4: and you crushed it, and it allowed me to hear
Speaker 4: that role. You and Emil Hirsch and all these Lucas
Speaker 4: and all these different actors that came. And what I
Speaker 4: loved is I was able to hear the script in
Speaker 4: that read through. And it was in that read through
Speaker 4: that I wrote a note to myself and said I'm
Speaker 4: going to direct this movie.
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't sure.
Speaker 1: At that point, right, I remember, this was still like
Speaker 1: up in the air.
Speaker 4: It is it a good script? Am I ready? Or
Speaker 4: am I going to talk myself out of it? And
Speaker 4: after that read through, listening to you and Emil and
Speaker 4: all the different actors that came out to support me
Speaker 4: that day, I knew twenty minutes into the read through,
Speaker 4: I said, oh, I'm definitely directing this movie. And then
Speaker 4: I wrote to a Meal on the back of the
Speaker 4: script as he was reading, I wrote to him play
Speaker 4: this role because I think I want to.
Speaker 2: He was fantastic and he but he I feel like
Speaker 2: he kills every new plays. He's he's they don't make
Speaker 2: actors with kids.
Speaker 4: He's one of those actors that people, I mean, come on,
Speaker 4: he was in you know, he's in everything, and he's
Speaker 4: just one. There's a handful of actors in our industry
Speaker 4: that just when they show up, they've got that magical
Speaker 4: ability that's just so deep.
Speaker 2: And so now you got a Meal Hirsh fresh off
Speaker 2: of Once upon a Time in Hollywood.
Speaker 4: No fuck, he was at the Oscars and Brad Pitt's
Speaker 4: winning Best Actor and you know he's working with Quentin
Speaker 4: Tarantino and he's like Quentin Tarantino.
Speaker 3: Redd element right. No, but you know what I like
Speaker 3: about a meal is.
Speaker 4: We had done Loan Survivor together, and we did a
Speaker 4: couple other movies as a producer, and and I just
Speaker 4: said to him, look, you know, I'm going to try this.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, I don't know how I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be and I just let you know. So he's
Speaker 4: so nice, and I don't We'll get off the subject
Speaker 4: and say but it was so nice that I listened
Speaker 4: to the behind the scenes of Midnight and Swishcress like
Speaker 4: they do the commentary where the actors get interviewed, and
Speaker 4: I was shocked because he was just like Randall's got
Speaker 4: this energy and he's just really good at directing, and
Speaker 4: he just knows.
Speaker 3: What he wants and he's excited. He's fun to be around,
Speaker 3: and he's just got such a vision. And it was
Speaker 3: like wow, like he you know, I would like to
Speaker 3: hear that from an actor that I look up to
Speaker 3: so much and I have such respect for. Was very,
Speaker 3: very kind. So I'm lucky I had somebody that I
Speaker 3: that was a friend that I trusted, that allowed me
Speaker 3: to allow him to be great. And he's so good
Speaker 3: and it's so fun to be a director and watch
Speaker 3: great actors.
Speaker 4: Even my next movie that we're cutting now with de
Speaker 4: Niro and Malcovich and Jack Houston, all these great actors,
Speaker 4: like actors you know of this caliber are so epic.
Speaker 3: They're just so you know.
Speaker 4: It makes me think back when I was a kid
Speaker 4: and I was pursuing acting very young before I went
Speaker 4: to film school in college, and I think about, you know,
Speaker 4: I was never like these people, like like it was
Speaker 4: cool that I was like, Okay, I was like, I'm
Speaker 4: you know, I could do Charlie Brown or whatever. But
Speaker 4: I mean, these these actors, I mean, you know, I
Speaker 4: think God had a plan for me to be in
Speaker 4: the film business behind the camera and watching these actors
Speaker 4: do what they do. I don't even know how they
Speaker 4: get there. I don't even know how. I mean, you
Speaker 4: know you're an actor, you know you've done it a lot.
Speaker 4: I mean, you guys do things. You know, actors do
Speaker 4: things that are magical on sets. They can take a character,
Speaker 4: internalize it and and and then put it out there.
Speaker 4: You know in a way that you're just like what
Speaker 4: things Emil did And I'm gonna move on.
Speaker 1: I promises that things.
Speaker 3: But things Emil did and Lucas Hawes did and Caitlin
Speaker 3: Carmichael's in the movie. The things they do you read
Speaker 3: on the page and as a director you make all
Speaker 3: these notes and you're like, Okay, do this, and when
Speaker 3: we get to this scene and then I want to
Speaker 3: feel this moment here and writing all these different things
Speaker 3: down and we get on set and I start kind
Speaker 3: of shaping it, and then they just bring something to
Speaker 3: the table that can you set the bar? And then
Speaker 3: it's above and you're like, what just fucking happened?
Speaker 1: Like we were character to life.
Speaker 2: You simply look at the dialogue and you picture, you
Speaker 2: may picture, you know how you think they should act,
Speaker 2: but then you can't. You can't think about how someone
Speaker 2: should act. Like it's totally different when you see a
Speaker 2: character come to life and it's you know, someone else's
Speaker 2: perception of what the character should bring.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, And I think I.
Speaker 4: Think for me as a director, I really love directing
Speaker 4: you know, great actors, and I pride myself on that
Speaker 4: and coming from an acting background, and I feel like
Speaker 4: I have a connection like with Emil and Lucas and
Speaker 4: Kaitlin and Megan and all these actors, even MGK. When
Speaker 4: I was there, I felt like there are moments that
Speaker 4: it's just flawless total, those moments like I want to
Speaker 4: see a little.
Speaker 3: More of something and that's why you're there. No, no,
Speaker 3: And I love that they'll just they'll trust me to
Speaker 3: when I say, hey, try it this way, try totally.
Speaker 3: And sometimes it's wrong, it just doesn't work. And sometimes
Speaker 3: it's magical. And when you have this magical moment between
Speaker 3: you know, the scene and you're sitting there, you're just
Speaker 3: like wow. And for me, that's the high, the highest,
Speaker 3: watching these incredible performances of life and shaping them and
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 2: So I get exactly what you mean, because there was
Speaker 2: and this was years ago. It was like when the
Speaker 2: Sex and the City movie had just come out and
Speaker 2: they came out with a book which was the script.
Speaker 2: They put it in book form, okay, and I had
Speaker 2: just flipped to the page. Have you seen Sex in
Speaker 2: the City, rand.
Speaker 3: I saw a TV show?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well there's I mean back, okay, Well there's the
Speaker 2: scene when Big doesn't show up to the wedding. Okay,
Speaker 2: and it's like just any woman that watched that was
Speaker 2: just it was devastating. Okay. The line from Charlotte as
Speaker 2: Big approaches as Charlotte is hugging Carrie that after Big
Speaker 2: decided to like not come to the wedding, and she
Speaker 2: Charlotte points at Big and is like no, and the
Speaker 2: script just says no, says no, no, And I'm thinking, oh.
Speaker 3: My god, it was it was so much deeper than that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Like when Charlotte screams no at Big, yeah, like you
Speaker 2: literally your heart just is on the floor, and all
Speaker 2: the script says no, no, with an exclamation.
Speaker 4: And that I think is an incredible collaborative moment between
Speaker 4: an actor and a director where that magic happens. And
Speaker 4: I think for me that's you know, you could look
Speaker 4: at even my script from Midnight, or you could look
Speaker 4: at you know, the Nial movie I just finished. There's
Speaker 4: moments in the cut that you'll look and it was
Speaker 4: so much deeper and more beautiful and bigger. But the
Speaker 4: writer sets the platform for us, and then it's the
Speaker 4: draw to the job as of the director and the
Speaker 4: actor to take it to that next place and and uh,
Speaker 4: it's really a fun process. So for me, I'm like,
Speaker 4: it's just like at blank canvas and you know, you
Speaker 4: kind of have a setup and then you have to
Speaker 4: kind of create from there and it could go so
Speaker 4: many different ways.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: So that's that's why I love the directing process so much. Creatively,
Speaker 4: I love producing very different medium.
Speaker 2: You want to what's great about life? We can do
Speaker 2: it all? I agree, we can do it all. Rand Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 2: The limit? Where does it end? It doesn't?
Speaker 3: It doesn't?
Speaker 4: You know what the moral of the story is. I'm
Speaker 4: fifty years old. I was forty eight when I started Midnight,
Speaker 4: forty nine when I did THEA Wash Me the other movie.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you something. You're never too old to
Speaker 4: go after your dreams. That is really really my mantra.
Speaker 4: I'm serious people, If I can pivot in my career
Speaker 4: and go after something and try something which.
Speaker 3: Even for me was I was petrified.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll be honest and question everything about what
Speaker 4: I do in this business. If I can change and
Speaker 4: try something, that means that it's never too late. That's
Speaker 4: my point is that it doesn't matter if you're sixty
Speaker 4: or fifty or seventy or thirty five, or or you
Speaker 4: or you went to college for you.
Speaker 3: Know, I don't know architecture correct, And then you just
Speaker 3: say you want to be a pianist, right. But my
Speaker 3: point is like it's okay, and it's okay to wake
Speaker 3: up and say, you know what, maybe I'm not that
Speaker 3: fulfilled going down this road right now, and I want
Speaker 3: to try a different road and maybe it'll take me
Speaker 3: back to the original road or maybe this will be
Speaker 3: my new road. But whatever it is, I just want
Speaker 3: people to always know that it's your dreams are your dreams,
Speaker 3: and you have one life on this earth that we
Speaker 3: know about, and on this earth, you want to make
Speaker 3: sure you leave it all out there. And so that's
Speaker 3: why I took a chance on a gamble, because you know,
Speaker 3: I want my kids to look up to me and say,
Speaker 3: my dad, you know, never ever, ever was afraid to
Speaker 3: try something new, even whether it works or not.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love it. Well. On that note, I
Speaker 2: think we should take a short break.
Speaker 3: It's a lot about the movie.
Speaker 1: Let's I liked it.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, I feel like I'm on a film channel
Speaker 3: to give.
Speaker 4: Them Laala with Randall? Or is this give them Lalla
Speaker 4: the cinematic experience?
Speaker 2: This is give them Whaila with Randall. You're welcome, We'll
Speaker 2: be right back. We are back with Heather McDonald.
Speaker 3: Yes, Heather McDonald.
Speaker 5: Thank you. Anyway, I own a beautiful home.
Speaker 6: I got to meet ocean, yes, and see your backyard.
Speaker 2: Did it make you nervous when she started crying? No, No,
Speaker 2: I'm a mother.
Speaker 1: She cries a lot.
Speaker 5: Well, you know every kid is different.
Speaker 3: Did your kids cry a lot? Did your kids cry
Speaker 3: a lot?
Speaker 6: To be honest, my older son would cry every night
Speaker 6: from about like oh god, six to eight, oh, just
Speaker 6: two hours, and I would like go like this and
Speaker 6: watch TV and just shake them like that.
Speaker 5: But then, you know, they're so easy.
Speaker 6: You know what, Can I just say this what I've
Speaker 6: discovered because I have two boys that are teenagers. I
Speaker 6: went on a girls trip for my birthday and the
Speaker 6: boy moms we have it's so easy. No one hears
Speaker 6: from it. We only get a text like is there food?
Speaker 6: Kind of go to Chick fil a.
Speaker 5: I literally have to be like, are you okay? Yes?
Speaker 6: The girls, the moms who have teenage girls. One of
Speaker 6: my friends, her daughter, has ruined four of our girl trips.
Speaker 5: Not ruined, but disrupted. Disrupted.
Speaker 6: Okay, So the first time it was a boyfriend breakup.
Speaker 6: Another time I.
Speaker 5: Was there and it was like a fight with her dad.
Speaker 5: They're divorced.
Speaker 6: Another time it was she got we were at we
Speaker 6: all got together to for one of my friends.
Speaker 5: Her husband died.
Speaker 6: We were like at a like for a weekend, like
Speaker 6: celebrating his life.
Speaker 5: And she is on the phone the whole time because.
Speaker 6: The girl's got in trouble for drinking on a boat
Speaker 6: or something.
Speaker 5: Then another time we're.
Speaker 6: All in DC and she checks her nest and she
Speaker 6: sees that the girl has all these boys coming through.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'm about to go take a san X.
Speaker 3: Then what the fuck?
Speaker 5: So then I said, I go.
Speaker 6: So when I said on that one, I go, do
Speaker 6: you realize that blank has ruined our four of my
Speaker 6: girl trips? And she lives far away, she lives on
Speaker 6: the East Coast, and it's like for me to go
Speaker 6: see her, for her to see me, it's a big effort.
Speaker 5: And she's like, oh my god, that's right.
Speaker 6: And so that she said to her when she was
Speaker 6: coming out to Palm Desert for my birthday, she goes,
Speaker 6: I've talked to her and it's not a problem. Like
Speaker 6: she said, she's going to be nothing's going to happen.
Speaker 6: I hope to God not. So she was not the
Speaker 6: disruptor my other friends. Oh daughter got in a fight.
Speaker 1: With the dad. Oh my dad, you're.
Speaker 6: Too leaning and she puts her on speakerphone and she's like, well,
Speaker 6: I have to come Hope having a panic attack.
Speaker 5: That's our fakest pend Atteck I ever heard.
Speaker 6: And then she's like then the sun was a witness
Speaker 6: And he's like, mom, that's being fine.
Speaker 5: She's just being a free and then she's just like
Speaker 5: and I go, oh my god, do not please tell
Speaker 5: me you're not gonna leave. She's like no, I'm not
Speaker 5: fucking leaving. So then that at the end.
Speaker 6: So then we go to this woman's house that I
Speaker 6: met that I was like, hey, you happen to be
Speaker 6: in your twenty million dollar mansion today.
Speaker 5: She's like yeah.
Speaker 6: So I'm like, who wants to stay for Sunday? Normally
Speaker 6: always Sunday Palm Springs. Everyone starts to drive around one.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, it's the best to stay till like seven.
Speaker 5: It is the best.
Speaker 6: I will never leave it, really because the traffic was
Speaker 6: better at like seven.
Speaker 5: And then we went to a place.
Speaker 6: Where were in the pool and then she's like stay here,
Speaker 6: stay here, and I'm like, I have all this I
Speaker 6: pressed to do because I was on the bachelorette.
Speaker 5: I've to do tomorrow. And my friend didn't hear that,
Speaker 5: and she goes, why don't we just stay here? And
Speaker 5: I go, what, you're a lawyer? Like what are you doing?
Speaker 5: I just never want to I just don't want to
Speaker 5: go home to my daughter.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 5: He's like, I don't want to go home to that
Speaker 5: family of mine. I'm like no, I'm like, then the
Speaker 5: forty has to end. And then I was like, oh man,
Speaker 5: this would be a funny movie. Like a bunch of
Speaker 5: women my age that just go fuck it.
Speaker 6: They just like leave their life like they just they
Speaker 6: just no one's going home, Like just no one's going home.
Speaker 1: It's a road change.
Speaker 3: It's quitting their family, quitting their family.
Speaker 5: They're just I don't want to go home?
Speaker 3: Did you stay Sunday night? And lead Monday?
Speaker 6: We left it like seven or so seven or so
Speaker 6: that I dropped off my friend who would fly home,
Speaker 6: and then I was home like at ten.
Speaker 3: How bad was the hangover Monday?
Speaker 6: It wasn't so bad because I didn't really drink on Sunday.
Speaker 6: We were really good. We did that by talks. Tell
Speaker 6: everybody about it. I wish they were a sponsor.
Speaker 3: What is a by talks?
Speaker 5: I remember I gave you.
Speaker 6: One and it was like we didn't it's so clear
Speaker 6: we thought it was a throwaway.
Speaker 5: You put it on your butt.
Speaker 6: It's just a sticker, and it's like like twelve, you
Speaker 6: put it on a sticker on your butt and don't
Speaker 6: get your first drink. So like around six it's hard
Speaker 6: if you're drinking like twenty four hours, hard because you
Speaker 6: don't know when you peel it off when you start
Speaker 6: a crashing. But if it's a normal night where it's
Speaker 6: like you're doing your hair and it's about six o'clock
Speaker 6: six or seven, you put it on then. And what
Speaker 6: I really like is I like to have, you know,
Speaker 6: different kinds of alcohol throughout the night, and this keeps
Speaker 6: me from not getting hung.
Speaker 3: By the way, I really to that you, Yes, you
Speaker 3: have shots ofster.
Speaker 5: You don't like?
Speaker 3: You had one?
Speaker 6: Yes, it was so good, Norah, when you're at USC,
Speaker 6: I don't like lucorice.
Speaker 5: It was the worst experience.
Speaker 3: Of my life. What about Yeah, other things.
Speaker 5: I'm just not a shot person.
Speaker 3: I like the shots because I like to get right
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: So then what do you do?
Speaker 6: I like like a cocktail like like a spicy margarita,
Speaker 6: like a like a you know, cucumber martini kind of
Speaker 6: a thing. Then I like to like have a really
Speaker 6: nice dinner and then I'm like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 6: having fish. I'm like, you know, a charonay, or I'm
Speaker 6: having a steak. I'd like a really good cap. Now
Speaker 6: the night's continuing.
Speaker 3: Now what happens.
Speaker 5: Now I want like.
Speaker 6: An espresso martini, so now I'm mixing all this, or
Speaker 6: i want champagne.
Speaker 5: But with that, I'm okay.
Speaker 6: The next time, I'm a little weird, but I'm okay,
Speaker 6: just like a little shaky. Or I wake up really
Speaker 6: early and then like by three, I'm just I'm like
Speaker 6: in my hungover, just.
Speaker 5: Really tired because I only slept like five hours.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: I always hated that when I was like, wake up early,
Speaker 2: exhausted and I'm like, is this a hangover?
Speaker 6: Is it just because we wake up you have energy,
Speaker 6: then you're exhausted, like three, That's what it is.
Speaker 2: When I want to just tell you wake up ready
Speaker 2: to party again.
Speaker 3: You missed the night a few years ago, Yeah, I have.
Speaker 2: Been a really fun night because you both talked about.
Speaker 3: It was it was legendary so we were at Cachella
Speaker 3: you I flew you back because you were going to
Speaker 3: New York for something Watch that's watch, and Heather and
Speaker 3: I were left behind for Neon Carnival, and I really.
Speaker 5: Didn't know you very well so at all. So I
Speaker 5: was like, so long.
Speaker 6: So I actually you did my podcast, but I did
Speaker 6: it at your office and then you were like.
Speaker 5: What are you doing this weekend?
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm actually going to Palm Desert and You're like,
Speaker 6: do you want to know?
Speaker 5: This party starting? And I'm like, are you serious?
Speaker 2: You know Hollywood me?
Speaker 6: You kept asking, so I'm like, okay, I really have
Speaker 6: the number, Like let's text, let's see.
Speaker 5: So I have my sister to go with me.
Speaker 6: You know, no, I don't think my husband was there
Speaker 6: at all, but no, no, be included anyway.
Speaker 5: So then that's the other thing that I've noticed, like
Speaker 5: as I've gotten.
Speaker 6: Older, like in my forties, early forties and thirties, it
Speaker 6: was all about the couples, a couple of dinner.
Speaker 5: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Where are the couple's going?
Speaker 5: Now every time I'm like, you we do husbands or no? No, no, It's.
Speaker 6: Like and then that's good because there's usually a couple
Speaker 6: of single people and they're like, okay, good, I'm glad
Speaker 6: you got Then we're like, then it's not weird for
Speaker 6: so and so whatever.
Speaker 3: Right, so we're down there.
Speaker 5: You caught you she flakes or not.
Speaker 6: She had to go to New York, right, But still
Speaker 6: I'm like, and you say, it's still happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you asked her and I saw, I said,
Speaker 3: go this is where I meet you. Of course you're invited.
Speaker 3: I told your abody. Yeah, and I said, come to
Speaker 3: the King, to the to the restaurant, the dinner, to
Speaker 3: the dinner and we'll go from there.
Speaker 6: And that's what I love so much when there's a
Speaker 6: plan and itinerary. But I'm also I post traumatic stress
Speaker 6: disorder from miss like missing a party, because back in
Speaker 6: the day, in our day of when we were, there'd
Speaker 6: be a party and they'd be like, follow us to
Speaker 6: the party, and then if you miss them, you joy to.
Speaker 3: Call who are you going to call? Beeper the people.
Speaker 5: Last time that happened, we were in Napa.
Speaker 6: We went to Napa with my friends who have a plane,
Speaker 6: and we go to like Crank Valley Winery or something.
Speaker 6: It's really nice winery, and I go, I want to
Speaker 6: go tonight too, because we were just going to like
Speaker 6: like these private wineris because they picked buy so much wine.
Speaker 6: So we were just like go to these places, but
Speaker 6: they weren't like serving us food, you know, so we're
Speaker 6: like dying, like we got to bring a picnic basket.
Speaker 6: So at that point, go to this thing and the
Speaker 6: guy goes, I've got I have this fabulous party. It's
Speaker 6: a mansion and they're having a party tonight, and that's
Speaker 6: exactly what I want to want to like drink wine
Speaker 6: in a mansion and look out at the vineyards. So
Speaker 6: he's like, so we go, what's the address? And he's like,
Speaker 6: you meet me at the place and then you'll follow
Speaker 6: me up the hill. And my friend Danny goes, what
Speaker 6: what's your cell phone number? He's like, no, just meet
Speaker 6: me there. So we're in this like old fashioned limo,
Speaker 6: like fucking like it's problem like Valley Girl from I
Speaker 6: don't know why.
Speaker 5: So it's hard to also see like where what's going on?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 6: So we're like at this gas is you waiting for
Speaker 6: the guy? And then like daddy, it's out and it
Speaker 6: says something to guy and then the guy goes and
Speaker 6: then we get in because the Limo guy so far
Speaker 6: like what what's.
Speaker 5: The trut It's like follow that up.
Speaker 6: We totally did not find them, could never find the
Speaker 6: guy didn't have a cell phone.
Speaker 5: I was so heartbroken.
Speaker 6: I'm like, but I have to act like cool about it,
Speaker 6: because it's like they've they've treated us this whole weekend.
Speaker 6: I was like, I was planning this like mansion party,
Speaker 6: like and now we're just at like some rest some
Speaker 6: average now was trying to do open table or call.
Speaker 5: Now we're just at an average restaurant.
Speaker 3: And I'm like depressed.
Speaker 5: All right, you know, so what I love? So then
Speaker 5: we have our dinner.
Speaker 3: Right, Heather shows up, You show up, and I have
Speaker 3: a dinner of like twenty people, yes, and we're just
Speaker 3: banging shots and of.
Speaker 6: Course I see Britney Spears x Jason Track where I'm like,
Speaker 6: I've been wanting to get this scooped forever.
Speaker 5: I guess kept on like moving on.
Speaker 3: You move like five chairs and so you had them
Speaker 3: in your sights and then and then you drilled them.
Speaker 3: You drill Jason tray Ca.
Speaker 5: I just swear to god there was a moment after
Speaker 5: because then.
Speaker 6: We go to the other party, but first to say
Speaker 6: before we leave that party.
Speaker 5: So my sister's with me, she's my.
Speaker 6: Sister's great and and then they're like, okay, we're going
Speaker 6: to the to the next place with all these cars
Speaker 6: and you.
Speaker 5: Know how like.
Speaker 6: How like at there's like that that little kill like
Speaker 6: kids play around at and so I see, like we
Speaker 6: come out of the bathroom, we're like fuck, they already
Speaker 6: are like like she's got she's got like the same
Speaker 6: little skinny cult light legs and she got like wedges
Speaker 6: and she's like that great hill and get in the car,
Speaker 6: like I will leave you here. So we get in
Speaker 6: the cars we have like the.
Speaker 3: Police escort, pretty police cars.
Speaker 5: How are we just getting police keeple today?
Speaker 1: Like this is weird?
Speaker 6: And then and then when we get there to the event,
Speaker 6: to the event, they won't let your guy carry his
Speaker 6: gun security.
Speaker 4: Yes, right, he was carrying, yes, a pistol and they
Speaker 4: would not let him. He was a police officer, yes,
Speaker 4: and they just said no, no firearms. So he had
Speaker 4: to leave that. Yeah, give how to give it to
Speaker 4: another officer who took it. And then we went in.
Speaker 5: And then then we went on.
Speaker 6: Then we went to the Ferisheel together the cop andy,
Speaker 6: and then I was asking him everything about his life
Speaker 6: and how private security works when you're also a cop,
Speaker 6: and like, what's the deal, And you know, I remember
Speaker 6: everything about him. He had he had a girlfriend who
Speaker 6: had a child, and you know, if we want a
Speaker 6: children of his his own.
Speaker 5: I mean, I just got the whole thing. So then
Speaker 5: then we're now we're.
Speaker 6: At the VIP section where the where the DJ party.
Speaker 3: Is the floor, and then we're there and that's.
Speaker 6: What I tried to get the scoop of what was
Speaker 6: Jason and Britney's relationship really like and.
Speaker 2: Were you successful in getting it out?
Speaker 6: I got some and at one point sometimes I was
Speaker 6: just about to get something, like I was with Sonia at.
Speaker 1: Josh flaggs Oh, I'm so.
Speaker 7: Generous, and she's like, you know, I introduced Ramona to
Speaker 7: Doug and Ellis and now she thinks she's a big
Speaker 7: real church and I go and the show and you know,
Speaker 7: the other said I'm like yeah, I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 6: They always take your guys and your contacts and tell
Speaker 6: me about it.
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden she's just like I
Speaker 5: can't talk to you and left. Yeah, she was like
Speaker 5: all of a sudden like realized.
Speaker 1: That you're Heather McDonald.
Speaker 5: Yes, but I don't. I won't tell it unless I
Speaker 5: say they can tell her, I'll just go. I mind.
Speaker 5: But I was just like, what happened?
Speaker 6: Basically he told me that, yeah, that he was working
Speaker 6: with her, and then they became a couple, and then
Speaker 6: William Morris made him stopp being Williamore's agent. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: then he like managed her and then they were in Vegas.
Speaker 6: And then I was like, and then what happened? What
Speaker 6: he's saying, That's when he realized he was talking to
Speaker 6: Heather McDonald. And he's like, there's so much to it.
Speaker 6: There's so He's like, there's it's unbelievable. There's so much
Speaker 6: to it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going, what is it?
Speaker 6: And then then at Google told four in the Morning
Speaker 6: everything about it, all the sweet articles that were like
Speaker 6: he she wanted to have another she wont to have
Speaker 6: another baby. He didn't want kids, which is true. He
Speaker 6: never had kids. He's so good looking.
Speaker 1: I think he.
Speaker 5: Is still in Vegas. Does he have a girlfriend or anything.
Speaker 1: No, he refuses, He always not true.
Speaker 2: He dates, No, but he always pre wreck.
Speaker 3: I think he has a girl already dates now I
Speaker 3: don't know what.
Speaker 2: He always follows it up with, if you find a
Speaker 2: dude that you want to date and there's that option
Speaker 2: of marriage at the end of the road here, then
Speaker 2: you should go do that, because I know who.
Speaker 5: Would ever do that?
Speaker 2: Why would you even say that he really doesn't want
Speaker 2: to ever get married, which is a travesty because I
Speaker 2: want him to pro create. He's such a good looking dude.
Speaker 5: But I think that's a that's just an awful idea
Speaker 5: to say that.
Speaker 2: Off of that. I love that people when they sit down,
Speaker 2: they feel like they can tell you everything, and then
Speaker 2: they realize, oh shit, that's how they're fucking McDonald.
Speaker 6: By the way, Oh we're gonna I had this girl
Speaker 6: come up to my show in Miami and she came
Speaker 6: up and she goes, I met you after a show.
Speaker 5: I hung out with you in Naples.
Speaker 6: I go, oh, my god, is your sister still sleeping
Speaker 6: with your stepfather?
Speaker 5: And she goes, how do you remember that? I go,
Speaker 5: how do you think I fucking forever get?
Speaker 2: I go.
Speaker 6: Out of everybody that came up to me and has
Speaker 6: told me a juicy story, that story has like stuck
Speaker 6: with me.
Speaker 5: It was crazy.
Speaker 2: Do you remember most of the people that like, do
Speaker 2: you have one of those memory is where if someone
Speaker 2: rolls up on you, they're like, I was at a
Speaker 2: meet and greet when you were in Tampa.
Speaker 6: If they tell me something specific, like and I told
Speaker 6: you that, you know, I'm a military wife or something like,
Speaker 6: then I can remember if it was something specific, or
Speaker 6: even if they go, I wrote you an email about
Speaker 6: a murder in my town about this, and then I
Speaker 6: will remember that, like that story, but just someone saying, Hi,
Speaker 6: I met you.
Speaker 5: Two years ago and we took a photo. No, not necessarily.
Speaker 6: Sometimes people look familiar though, like I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 6: wait yes, or like all you know, just like how
Speaker 6: you recognize certain people that always comment or are your
Speaker 6: biggest band, and then they'll you know, then you know,
Speaker 6: they might come and go, I'm Dolly Doo or whatever.
Speaker 5: You're like, oh my.
Speaker 1: God, you know right. No, I totally an.
Speaker 5: Awful Instagram handle.
Speaker 2: Not real, not real.
Speaker 6: They still stayed buried though the stepfather and her mother.
Speaker 6: They stayed married, even though the sister had been sleeping
Speaker 6: with the stepfather for a couple of years for money
Speaker 6: and they were rich.
Speaker 2: That seems like something I would watch on porn Hub,
Speaker 2: like that storyline.
Speaker 6: That's probably what I thought about it. It was weirdly hot.
Speaker 6: She told me how it happened in the kitchen, how
Speaker 6: it first started.
Speaker 2: Total porn Hub hour in twenty minutes, that you watched
Speaker 2: the whole thing.
Speaker 6: And so she's just like, I cannot believe. And then
Speaker 6: her friend was with her, like this gay guy was
Speaker 6: her friend. And he's like, it was literally four years
Speaker 6: ago that she told me the story.
Speaker 5: She was the wedding still happened.
Speaker 6: I go, it was your wedding that was around the corner, right,
Speaker 6: and she's like yeah, and I'm like you're still married,
Speaker 6: and she was just like blown away.
Speaker 5: So yes, but then, but then there's other times where.
Speaker 6: People will say, oh, I did have this other person
Speaker 6: come up to me, what did you say?
Speaker 5: She said, I was not a delight.
Speaker 6: When she met me in Vegas ten years ago, and
Speaker 6: she goes, you were just she goes, I was with Peter.
Speaker 5: She goes, we met your husband there.
Speaker 6: We were talking to your husband and then you came
Speaker 6: up and I go, oh, yeah, that's I go, that
Speaker 6: was when I did that performance, and you know, Chris
Speaker 6: Knoth was there. She's like, yeah, that's all you cared
Speaker 6: about was going on to dinner with Chris Noth never after,
Speaker 6: and I'm.
Speaker 5: Like, who wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I don't know who that is.
Speaker 6: He is big in sects the City Wait, which one
Speaker 6: her main boyfriend?
Speaker 1: Big oh big big.
Speaker 5: He was at the event. I kept doing Samantha Jones
Speaker 5: impressions on stage and.
Speaker 6: It was like this, like I think they might have
Speaker 6: paid these celebrities to be here, and then they paid
Speaker 6: me to perform and it was for jewelry and so
Speaker 6: there all we're all going to dinner after and another
Speaker 6: like thing, just like I was scared. I'm like, if
Speaker 6: we miss the fucking traveling to the restaurant, I'm never
Speaker 6: going to know which restaurant it is. So I'm like,
Speaker 6: so Peter's trugk to this couple and he's like, hey,
Speaker 6: you know, being nice here, like we got to go.
Speaker 5: And so that's what they witnessed.
Speaker 6: But at that time, I was on Chelsea Lately, so
Speaker 6: I wasn't like as connected and like you know, to
Speaker 6: my podcast listeners, I was just someone on Chill Lately.
Speaker 1: You were the best on China Lately.
Speaker 6: But I didn't have like the the fan connection that
Speaker 6: I have now with with like being you know, with
Speaker 6: podcasting and people being able to write you and everything.
Speaker 2: And now look at you, you're on. You're on, fucking
Speaker 2: give them alla with Randall like you've made it all right.
Speaker 3: With that quick right, yes, all right, we'll be back
Speaker 3: in a second.
Speaker 2: We're back with my most favorite human. Can I tell
Speaker 2: you I could just listen to you tom Day.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. You tell the best stories.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 6: What I was walking around in Miami is when I
Speaker 6: listened to your podcast because I wanted to, but also
Speaker 6: because someone said that you guys were nice about me.
Speaker 5: So then I'm usually like, that's the one I would
Speaker 5: like to listen to.
Speaker 1: Oh, Randal and I love you.
Speaker 6: But when someone says, oh, someone talks shitty about you
Speaker 6: or someone said something nice about you, I try to
Speaker 6: just only listen to something somebody said nice about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, why would you listen to the other thing?
Speaker 2: That's not productive?
Speaker 5: I know it's hard not to.
Speaker 2: Well, it was actually I was with Logan and Leo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess, so fun Yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Hosted last week's podcast with me, and we were talking
Speaker 2: about the Hustler and the House rights.
Speaker 5: You guys still finding out so much information. I'll never stop.
Speaker 6: And then people said, do you think that'll hurt you,
Speaker 6: like with Bravo or you know, doing stuff with Bravo,
Speaker 6: And I'm like, come on, I don't what am I
Speaker 6: going to? I'm not on I mean, I was on
Speaker 6: watch what Happens once.
Speaker 2: Bravo's not paying your bills?
Speaker 5: No, it's no.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, and you know, and but Andy absolutely
Speaker 6: did not watch it. He's like, oh, once I saw
Speaker 6: that Danielle and Dana Wilke were on it, I just
Speaker 6: you know. And I'm like, well, if you watched it,
Speaker 6: you realize that was the first twelve minutes of it
Speaker 6: to suck people in, and the rest was really about
Speaker 6: the crimes that he committed.
Speaker 5: And it was like really interesting.
Speaker 6: And you know which is it got like huge ratings
Speaker 6: because I just had Kimberly Archie will be on my
Speaker 6: show Tuesday. So this comes out Wednesday, so it's up now.
Speaker 6: And I had interviewed her like eight months ago when
Speaker 6: the divorce was announced.
Speaker 5: Wow, and she used to work for.
Speaker 6: Tom You're already kind of like an Aaron Rokovich like
Speaker 6: she'd work and like getting the research together.
Speaker 2: Well, I well, how did that?
Speaker 1: I wrote?
Speaker 2: Because I watched this that came to be because Tom
Speaker 2: was on her best friend's son's case.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 5: I think that she would have been working for him
Speaker 5: before this happened.
Speaker 6: And then she recommended to facilitate like the meeting and
Speaker 6: get her friend to for him to represent the son
Speaker 6: and their family and yeah, and then she was basically
Speaker 6: saying like they just.
Speaker 5: Didn't they didn't think that like the money was going
Speaker 5: to run out. Of course not.
Speaker 6: But you know, I was talking to people that have
Speaker 6: worked with Erica Jane, like when she started to become
Speaker 6: Erica Jane, right, and they all loved her.
Speaker 5: She paid so.
Speaker 6: Well, she was very very generous when it's not your
Speaker 6: own money, and when, according to her, you know, if
Speaker 6: she could spend whatever she wanted, you know, thanks baby,
Speaker 6: and he would just give her money.
Speaker 5: And you know, but.
Speaker 2: I loved her line before this whole thing happened. But
Speaker 2: I remember she made her first appearance on BH and
Speaker 2: she was like, what can I say? Being poor sucks
Speaker 2: and being rich is a lot better. And I was like,
Speaker 2: this bitch is the goat.
Speaker 5: Yes, I stand for again the.
Speaker 1: Greatest of all times?
Speaker 3: What it stands for? You know that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, greatest the goat?
Speaker 3: I thought it was like a goat, like goats are cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm so outdated.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: Your fifty is showing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 2: But here's the no. I know.
Speaker 1: It's also I'm trying to be like the cool kids,
Speaker 1: and they say I.
Speaker 3: Ask a few questions that I think are our fans.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, I want to ask one question.
Speaker 2: This is the billion dollar question. Do you think Erica
Speaker 2: Jane knew.
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 5: I do now I knew it not. I used to think.
Speaker 6: You know, there's a very good chance that they have
Speaker 6: an arrangement that she could spend whatever she wanted and
Speaker 6: he could cheat on her and do whatever he wanted.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all friends, we know that now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we know that came through that and I knew
Speaker 6: that five years ago, like you know that. That's why
Speaker 6: she didn't have to go to travel with him anymore.
Speaker 6: Remember she's like, for ten years, I went everywhere with
Speaker 6: mister Gerard, he went to Germany, and then now.
Speaker 5: She's with the glam squad. Bring the entire glam squad.
Speaker 5: I mean, the amount of money I can't even imagine.
Speaker 6: So I think, but he's been doing stuff like this
Speaker 6: shady since the Aaron Brockovich days.
Speaker 2: Well because they this wasn't just I think most people
Speaker 2: know about the plane crash victims that were basically robbed
Speaker 2: of all of their money. Yeah, I mean, whether it
Speaker 2: was one hundred and fifty thousand dollars that was being
Speaker 2: won by a victim or millions he was snatching it.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 6: Also, the other part is a lot of people don't
Speaker 6: know is that a lot of these cases were settled
Speaker 6: without court. So like, let's say, Lala, you were you know,
Speaker 6: you felt it, and I'm like, Lala, I am gonna
Speaker 6: do my best. I'm going to try to get you
Speaker 6: five million, and then I actually get you twelve. And
Speaker 6: then come back and I go, guess what, Lola, I
Speaker 6: got you six, And you're like, great, you go off
Speaker 6: your way, but I took an extra six plus the
Speaker 6: forty percent off the six.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying, you know, I don't know. Those
Speaker 6: cases are harder to figure out. But when you realize
Speaker 6: how many cases were done just like over the phone,
Speaker 6: and it's all between friends and judges and how entire
Speaker 6: like how do you know? And then you're happy with
Speaker 6: the check you got because you're just like this, you know,
Speaker 6: little Bumpkin that had this horrible thing happened.
Speaker 5: To me, So like, what do you know?
Speaker 6: No, that documentary I think once he started to do
Speaker 6: that and then we found she and all her research
Speaker 6: that she came on today she found two checks on
Speaker 6: the same day, one for nine million and another for
Speaker 6: nine million. Now we don't know the case, but one
Speaker 6: was for to Girardi Inclase, which is the law firm,
Speaker 6: and then one.
Speaker 2: Just to Tom what I know?
Speaker 6: So he was a winning of eighteen million for a client.
Speaker 6: It's supposed to go in these trust accounts of all this.
Speaker 6: How did he get this company to like whatever write him, Oh, you.
Speaker 5: Don't do it this way, Okay, it's Tom Girardi.
Speaker 2: Well I think that's why people did it was because
Speaker 2: he was Tom Girardi. He was on the cover of
Speaker 2: every magazine. He was la law like the people. He
Speaker 2: had these judges in the back of his pocket. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was dude, the documentary studying.
Speaker 6: What you said, because you're like, look, I'm watching like
Speaker 6: everybody else. Yeah, and if I see her and that
Speaker 6: was okay, So I knew this fan who came to
Speaker 6: see me too.
Speaker 5: She was out here.
Speaker 6: She knew somebody that was putting together the Kathy Hilton
Speaker 6: viewing party. Okay, So and she's like, I'm gonna see
Speaker 6: if I can get you invited.
Speaker 5: I'm like, please get me invited.
Speaker 6: Like then she was like, oh my god, my friend's distressed.
Speaker 6: They're like full capacitators.
Speaker 5: I can't ask. I don't even know this girl that well.
Speaker 5: I know that's fine. Just give me the scoop, she said.
Speaker 6: She all these people, all these pr people are calling
Speaker 6: and saying, we want to make sure that if our
Speaker 6: client goes, they're not in a compromise position to take
Speaker 6: a photo with Erica.
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 5: But then Erica didn't come. Well, I don't blame her,
Speaker 5: but you know how Hollywood is. The minute you step in.
Speaker 2: Some shit.
Speaker 6: And if anything has taught us anything, don't help your
Speaker 6: friend out of that shit.
Speaker 5: It's not quick sent leave them alone. You're so good,
Speaker 5: all right, I'd like.
Speaker 3: To pivot for a second.
Speaker 4: Why you guys spilled tea? So just real quick, because
Speaker 4: I just like to hear the backstory. Let's start when
Speaker 4: you started, because you told me once before. I asked
Speaker 4: you a questions because I'm obsessed. How did you become
Speaker 4: the comedian and star that you became like the early
Speaker 4: comedy days that Chelsea Handler, et cetera. Just a quick
Speaker 4: snapshot because I'm very excited.
Speaker 3: Snapshot about how you came up, because it is a
Speaker 3: great story.
Speaker 6: Quick snapshot is I was born and raised here, but
Speaker 6: my parents were not in the entertainment business, but we
Speaker 6: always knew kids that were doing it. I had an
Speaker 6: agent as a kid, but I wasn't that good at
Speaker 6: so when I was about private from high school, I
Speaker 6: could imitate, like everybody this, well. My music teacher's like,
Speaker 6: why are you going to USC You should just be
Speaker 6: a stand up wow?
Speaker 5: And I was like, how would strangers find me me funny?
Speaker 6: So I go to SC and I have my fun
Speaker 6: but I would like every time I saw someone with
Speaker 6: the pager, I get really jealous because that meant they
Speaker 6: had an agent, not that.
Speaker 5: And I was like, I really want to be doing this.
Speaker 5: I know I'm not doing what I was supposed to
Speaker 5: be doing.
Speaker 6: So I get this horrible job out of school just
Speaker 6: so I could live with my own and be in
Speaker 6: front when job assistant buyer Robinson's may this is amazing,
Speaker 6: oh wow. And it was so horrible and I was
Speaker 6: so bad at it. But in the middle of it,
Speaker 6: my friend throws down a learning Annex magazine how to
Speaker 6: be a stand up comic, and she goes, you better
Speaker 6: fucking do this. So I take my red toyo Celica
Speaker 6: and I go to Eradison in Santa Monica, and I
Speaker 6: learned like, you just have to set up the bit
Speaker 6: so that a stranger knows what you're talking about, right,
Speaker 6: And it was like clicked, and then the woman was like,
Speaker 6: take this class and you could have this little show
Speaker 6: at the end.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 6: Everybody always been telling me I should do it, so
Speaker 6: I'm like, I know, I'll like get plenty.
Speaker 5: Of people to come.
Speaker 6: So as I'm studying for the now, I've done it once,
Speaker 6: but I'm still at the horrible job and I'm starting
Speaker 6: to like do it more and like start to like
Speaker 6: look for.
Speaker 5: Acting classes and stuff.
Speaker 6: And then the person at the place fires me and
Speaker 6: is like, you know.
Speaker 5: The hr person goes, hey, how you do it? You
Speaker 5: want to meet like maybe five on Friday.
Speaker 6: I'm like, well that it doesn't sound good, and then
Speaker 6: start the elevator and I was like hi, and she's
Speaker 6: like like when you have that no eye contact, you
Speaker 6: just know like the only other time it happened was
Speaker 6: when I knew I didn't make cheerleading. I didn't make
Speaker 6: varsity cheerleading because that the head lady's daughter wouldn't talk.
Speaker 5: To me at a party. Oh that I knew.
Speaker 6: I knew, She's like yeah. So then so then I
Speaker 6: got fired and I just started doing stand up and
Speaker 6: I just started doing groundlings. And then I did real
Speaker 6: estate with my parents to pay for everything, and they
Speaker 6: would like go over lines with me, and they always
Speaker 6: were so supportive of what I could do. And then
Speaker 6: my friends got jobs like at the Growling so I'd
Speaker 6: sell them houses so I could, like I was like
Speaker 6: the realtor of the prime Yeah, and so they but
Speaker 6: you know, so it's good. So like instead of being
Speaker 6: jealous of your friend getting a sitcom, I was like,
Speaker 6: would you like to buy a house?
Speaker 5: Nice?
Speaker 3: Okay? That what happened. Then, still making no money in comedy.
Speaker 6: Yet no many in comedy, Like I had to ask
Speaker 6: big people to come to the show. I had paid
Speaker 6: for eight people to come to the show from an
Speaker 6: agency I want.
Speaker 5: I don't know if his paradigm was something like that.
Speaker 6: And and right before I went on, this cute guy
Speaker 6: that I was friends with. He went on and just
Speaker 6: like won them like ever, you know, he did well.
Speaker 6: And then I go on and they're like, come here,
Speaker 6: and the whole time during my set, they're like signing him.
Speaker 6: Oh and I had to pay sixty four dollars for
Speaker 6: them to come eight people.
Speaker 5: So those are the kind of things.
Speaker 6: Where I'm like, I'm sorry, Like I'm so happy that
Speaker 6: people can put their content, make their own money and
Speaker 6: not be so dependent. I mean, you had to have
Speaker 6: an agent. You had to be in SAG and I
Speaker 6: it wasn't in sag. You needed to be in sack
Speaker 6: to get an agent. You need an agent to be
Speaker 6: in sack. So I went to this acting class that
Speaker 6: I go, I know, there must be a way to
Speaker 6: get a sad car. It's gotta be someone I can pay.
Speaker 6: He goes, there is this guy named Wayne, and then Wayne,
Speaker 6: I'd pay Wayne.
Speaker 5: Three hundred dollars. I had no idea.
Speaker 6: I just mailed three hundred dollars to this guy Wayne,
Speaker 6: and then he sent me three things that made me
Speaker 6: look like I had like a line on a beer commercial.
Speaker 3: Like vouchers, vouchers, oh my god.
Speaker 5: And then I paid the eleven fifty to join.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Yes, wow. I don't even know how many years it
Speaker 5: would have been. I probably would have.
Speaker 6: I would have been able to join once I got
Speaker 6: on Keenan. So then Keenan I Ullyams had a late
Speaker 6: night talk show.
Speaker 3: And how did you get to that? Because I know
Speaker 3: you did. You wrote on that.
Speaker 6: My manager goes, would you consider writing on a show
Speaker 6: at this point? And I'm like, well, I you know,
Speaker 6: I thought it would be like a sitcom star but
Speaker 6: maybe let me see I've seen I've seen it, let
Speaker 6: me watch it more.
Speaker 5: And it was Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 6: I had to write a whole like package of jokes
Speaker 6: and sketches and everything and his point of view, and
Speaker 6: I remember I missed all these really good parties. But
Speaker 6: I was like, I got to do it. So I
Speaker 6: sent it in and I got it, and you know,
Speaker 6: and it was your first real first job. And I
Speaker 6: got it because he said, I want I've got you know,
Speaker 6: six white guys, six black guys, one black woman. I
Speaker 6: would like to get one white woman's point of view
Speaker 6: in here.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: So that was like just a great experience.
Speaker 3: How long do you do that?
Speaker 5: I got fired from that though, because wait.
Speaker 3: How long did you do it for before you got fired.
Speaker 6: Well, like from like from Memorial or labor not from
Speaker 6: Labor day. No, it didn't last something from Labor Day
Speaker 6: to like March or May. That's something like that, not
Speaker 6: that long. And then it got canceled in the summer.
Speaker 3: Okay, So why'd you get fired?
Speaker 6: Because they were supposed to tell you after thirteen weeks
Speaker 6: that they were going to pick you up. And he
Speaker 6: was very big on fun letting people go and firing people.
Speaker 6: But I thought, well, even if I get fired, I
Speaker 6: get paid for thirteen weeks, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: They'll give me. I have a credit card debt. After
Speaker 5: I got there, I guess they said enough.
Speaker 6: Keenan of firing people, you know, like stop it, you
Speaker 6: can't need this anymore.
Speaker 2: Iire one more.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: So, but I didn't know if I was going to
Speaker 5: get the next thirteen week pickup. And you're supposed to
Speaker 5: know it eleven weeks.
Speaker 6: So eleven weeks came and twelve on the twelfth week,
Speaker 6: and I still didn't know. I got a call from
Speaker 6: my manager saying, I have like two auditions for you know,
Speaker 6: comedy pilots for you, and I go.
Speaker 5: You know, I've never called in sick.
Speaker 6: I'm going to call in sick and go on these auditions.
Speaker 6: Oh yes, And I went and I called in sick
Speaker 6: and just call like the assistant writer's assistant. And then
Speaker 6: and then I was at the comedy store doing stand
Speaker 6: up that night and I had to check my messages
Speaker 6: or whatever, and I remember I was like calling on
Speaker 6: my little cell phone and they're like, yeah, call call
Speaker 6: you know. Oh, and that you always kept you really late,
Speaker 6: like ten at night. So I called and there the
Speaker 6: guy's like, yeah, Keiden says, you don't need to come
Speaker 6: back ever.
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh my god. I was like
Speaker 5: so bummed.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: So then I like came back and I was like hi,
Speaker 6: and I like say goodbye everybody. And then I found
Speaker 6: out that this one guy comedian, he's not a comedian
Speaker 6: anymore because.
Speaker 1: He writes people out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he said.
Speaker 6: Kenan goes where's Heather and someone's like she's sick, and
Speaker 6: then he goes, you know, it's pilot season, Keenan.
Speaker 5: Oh, And he.
Speaker 6: Knew I wanted to be an actress because I came
Speaker 6: for the Crownings and I like.
Speaker 5: Wanted to be in sketchy That sucks. Yeah, that's nice
Speaker 5: at all, and so.
Speaker 3: That's not helping your friends.
Speaker 6: I was bummed about that because even had I stayed,
Speaker 6: the show would have eventually ended. Then I would have
Speaker 6: gotten all that money from all the rereunts that ran
Speaker 6: all summer set, and then all those people wrote Scream one,
Speaker 6: and I would have written on.
Speaker 4: Scream WHOA, so I was a super monster success.
Speaker 6: So they wrote on Scream one and Scream two, And
Speaker 6: then they broke up with the Weinstein brothers and they
Speaker 6: were going to do like another movie about like alien,
Speaker 6: like doing a parody of all the alien movies and
Speaker 6: my and he goes, we need like we need somebody.
Speaker 6: Maybe he brought me up, but he always noticed that
Speaker 6: all the alien movies had a single mom in it,
Speaker 6: like from et whatever. So he's like, we need to
Speaker 6: like get a woman in here to kind of write
Speaker 6: back parts those parts. So then my friend called me
Speaker 6: in My baby was only two weeks old, Drake, and
Speaker 6: he's like, do you want to work on this movie?
Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, you know, okay, So then I,
Speaker 5: you know, would do it. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: one day they call them.
Speaker 6: They're like, yeah, there was all these guys working on it,
Speaker 6: and they're like, yeah, Keenan fired like four people because they.
Speaker 5: Were coming up with anything good.
Speaker 6: And he was like, Heather has a fucking baby and
Speaker 6: she's bringing all these like funny ideas and stuff.
Speaker 5: So then I got to stay for that.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 5: And then they and then.
Speaker 6: They see that the people that started to take over
Speaker 6: the screen franchise, they the next Scream or whatever they
Speaker 6: called it.
Speaker 5: Or scary movie. Sorry, scarcary movie, not Scream. It was
Speaker 5: scary movie parodies.
Speaker 6: The next Scary Movie thing was going to be all
Speaker 6: about the alien movies because it was that Signs movie
Speaker 6: that was so big.
Speaker 5: So then they're like.
Speaker 6: We're not even going to do this because it's too
Speaker 6: similar to what they're doing. But they had already sold
Speaker 6: the idea of white Chicks, so like we're gonna start
Speaker 6: writing white Chicks, and I was like, well, don't you
Speaker 6: think you need one white chick to write on it?
Speaker 5: And so then I wrote with them on white checks.
Speaker 5: They already had like the story idea, but then I.
Speaker 6: Helped with all the characters, and then they're like, we're
Speaker 6: going to try to get you in on this. And
Speaker 6: then I remember they called me and they're like oh,
Speaker 6: we have to hire so many Canadian people, but we
Speaker 6: really want you to play the part that you wrote
Speaker 6: because I wrote it about this annoying girl that worked on.
Speaker 5: On Third Street is a store, like that's why I came.
Speaker 2: Up with it.
Speaker 6: And then they're like, and I remember literally it was like,
Speaker 6: can you get on you know, can you get to
Speaker 6: lax in like three hours?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 6: Because you have to be there tomorrow, and we just
Speaker 6: whatever got the okay. So then I got together like
Speaker 6: once or twice, I think to do that part.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 6: And then I worked on a couple of other things
Speaker 6: with them too. They'd dance Flick. I had a small
Speaker 6: part in that, and and then and then I got
Speaker 6: so then I was married and I wasn't doing any
Speaker 6: stand up, but I was like getting parts and I
Speaker 6: was like, you know, sometimes i'd have health insurance, sometimes
Speaker 6: I wouldn't the worst, and then so you're get and
Speaker 6: then and then I started watching Last Comic Standing and
Speaker 6: it made me really miss stand up and I was like,
Speaker 6: I think I should start doing this, you know, right
Speaker 6: about being a.
Speaker 5: Mom and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: And then like the next day, this girl called me
Speaker 6: and she would always put all these girls shows together,
Speaker 6: female comic shows, and she was I just ran into
Speaker 6: somebody and I can't believe you quit the stand up.
Speaker 5: You were like the best one. I'm like, well, I
Speaker 5: didn't quit it. She's like, well, it's been like seven years.
Speaker 6: And I go, all right, just give me a date,
Speaker 6: give me a deadline, and she goes, okay, August whatever,
Speaker 6: I'm doing the improv.
Speaker 5: It's a pretty fun women.
Speaker 6: Chelsea, Natasha Lazeiro, Tig, Sarah Kalona, all these girls would
Speaker 6: do these shows. And so I just practiced my stuff
Speaker 6: and I did it and then like once I was
Speaker 6: back into it, then I felt great. And then that
Speaker 6: after that August come around, I was doing it.
Speaker 5: I heard that Chelsea was then going to start her show.
Speaker 6: And my friend was like, I don't know if I
Speaker 6: want to work on a full time like writing gig,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, well I do, because if I don't.
Speaker 5: Get back in this game by name. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I wrote her, emailed her or texted her or
Speaker 6: something and I was like, can I, you know, try
Speaker 6: to write some stuff and she's like yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: So then I met the producer. She only could hire
Speaker 6: like four people. Wow, So she picked me and then yeah,
Speaker 6: and then I thought, well, this will look I'll get
Speaker 6: to nanny. I felt so guilty, but I'll get a
Speaker 6: nanny for the summer. But when I was worried about
Speaker 6: doing it, I'm like, my boys are only like one
Speaker 6: and four something.
Speaker 5: And my friend goes, are you finding kidding me?
Speaker 6: In ten years, you're going to come home and neither
Speaker 6: of those boys are going to even look up from
Speaker 6: their xbox or whatever the thing was at the time,
Speaker 6: and you're gonna say, why the fuck didn't I take
Speaker 6: that joby? And I tell that story all the time
Speaker 6: because they are fine. They don't come running to the
Speaker 6: door when I come home.
Speaker 5: They're fine.
Speaker 6: And it's like people need to know that, like, yes, baby,
Speaker 6: years are precious years.
Speaker 5: But now that I have this career and I could
Speaker 5: be around.
Speaker 6: So much more of these last five years the more
Speaker 6: important years in my opinion, the.
Speaker 3: Time the time where where they want to.
Speaker 1: Smell because I feel important.
Speaker 5: You will feel guilty.
Speaker 6: You will feel guilty, You will miss stup. And sometimes
Speaker 6: when I look at like pictures of like it's like
Speaker 6: they're there, They're fine. It's like it's there to you.
Speaker 4: They also look up to you as a strong woman
Speaker 4: who's running a big career, and that's a pretty cool
Speaker 4: thing as a kid to say, all my mom's on TV,
Speaker 4: or my mom writes on shows or all these different things.
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool too. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean I think it's they have a good perspective
Speaker 6: of things, you know, and we have like a lot
Speaker 6: of fun.
Speaker 3: And how many years on Chelsea?
Speaker 5: We did seven? Like seven and a half?
Speaker 3: Yeah, how many? How many episodes total over there?
Speaker 5: So many because we only got like we only got.
Speaker 6: Two weeks off at Christmas, two weeks after the summer,
Speaker 6: and one week at Easter, five weeks off. Only got
Speaker 6: five weeks off a year, yeah, like five. Yeah, it
Speaker 6: was crazy. We never had any time off and we
Speaker 6: always had to like you know but leading up to
Speaker 6: Christmas we had to do a New Year's Eve show
Speaker 6: and a Christmas Eve show and all this other stuff.
Speaker 6: So it was a lot, but it was really fun.
Speaker 6: It was super fun, and I'm still friends with so
Speaker 6: many the people.
Speaker 1: And it's like watching you on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so intimidated by you because you guys
Speaker 2: would show people on the show and then kind of
Speaker 2: like make fun of them, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: never want to be made fun of by anybody like
Speaker 2: that because you are so funny and such a savage.
Speaker 5: That was the other thing. We could never tweet our jokes.
Speaker 6: Oh, they'd be like the head writer would be like
Speaker 6: a news thing would break and all the writers would
Speaker 6: have Twitter and want to write something funny, and he'd
Speaker 6: be like, what the fuck We're going to talk about
Speaker 6: this tomorrow.
Speaker 5: And now you just gave the best joke to you yourself.
Speaker 6: You can just save that for Chelsea or for somebody
Speaker 6: else that might around table.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, So you couldn't tweet anything. Any of your jokes
Speaker 2: had to be kept for the show. But I kind
Speaker 2: of I understood that.
Speaker 6: I was like, I kind of get that, like, because
Speaker 6: you know, we have this great thing of being able
Speaker 6: to do it like that day. You know, we would
Speaker 6: do stuff and then you know at the end of
Speaker 6: the day, the end of that we could see it
Speaker 6: on Saturday Live.
Speaker 5: Right, we could do it like that day.
Speaker 6: So once they said that, I was like, yeah, but
Speaker 6: you know, once you're wright, you're a writer on the show,
Speaker 6: you really have to commit to being a writer on
Speaker 6: the show, right. And then it was kind of a
Speaker 6: bumber because then there were other people that would be
Speaker 6: featured just as much on the show, but they weren't
Speaker 6: staff writers, and sure they weren't making the money every week,
Speaker 6: but then they would be getting all these opportunities, and
Speaker 6: then opportunities would come to us, but we couldn't take us. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but I understand that, Like I didn't feel me. I
Speaker 6: don't think that's mean when you got you can't like
Speaker 6: let every person go, oh, you have an audition for
Speaker 6: a three liner?
Speaker 5: Okay, bye, you can't do that, Like, you can't let
Speaker 5: people do that.
Speaker 6: So then it was that part I think was sort
Speaker 6: of difficult in having the writers be featured so much.
Speaker 1: Was that life changing when you did.
Speaker 5: Lately?
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, that like started off because then I was
Speaker 6: like I always wanted to write a book, and now
Speaker 6: I'm like, well, now I can write a book.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, your prediction was fucking wrong.
Speaker 3: Oh here we go.
Speaker 5: That you'd get it second week national bestseller. That some
Speaker 5: means you sold a lot.
Speaker 2: No, I definitely, my numbers were great, but you you
Speaker 2: can't tell the future.
Speaker 5: Everyone loved that.
Speaker 6: By the way, I got I got a great feed
Speaker 6: writing that they really really liked it.
Speaker 5: I knew they would.
Speaker 1: Well, that's good.
Speaker 3: I have two last questions, because yeah, first question, your
Speaker 3: worst stand up moment in history that you can recall
Speaker 3: in your career, Like a moment that just one that
Speaker 3: just was mortifying for you for any reason. It could
Speaker 3: have been ten, could have been a heckler, It could
Speaker 3: have been just you sucked or you were hung over.
Speaker 3: Just a moment you can remember that you don't want
Speaker 3: to remember.
Speaker 5: God, I mean no, they're all just but they're all
Speaker 5: like not that bad.
Speaker 3: Worse war like anything, worse venue, worst audience, worse anything,
Speaker 3: just something.
Speaker 6: That sometimes what happens is I'd be doing something. This
Speaker 6: is why I really don't like performing in LA and
Speaker 6: I like just go to a city where I don't
Speaker 6: know anybody, but now I know so many people. In
Speaker 6: every city, I still have somebody like a college friend
Speaker 6: or something.
Speaker 5: Is like I'll start.
Speaker 6: Doing a bit and talking about like whatever, joking about
Speaker 6: my husband, like murdering my husband or whatever, and then
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh my god, my friend is here. My
Speaker 6: husband just fucking died, like what, like you know, and
Speaker 6: then I like gets in my head a little bit
Speaker 6: or like I remember this one. Birl had a really
Speaker 6: back in the.
Speaker 5: Like those days when I was always doing the improv.
Speaker 5: She had a really funny herpes.
Speaker 6: Joke, and and then all of a sudden, I would realize,
Speaker 6: oh my god, she's on the bill, and I have
Speaker 6: two friends with herpes in the audience. Like I normally
Speaker 6: would not invite them to any show because I thought
Speaker 6: it would hurt their feelings. But then I looked down
Speaker 6: and saw they were laughing the most, and I was like,
Speaker 6: they can't really worry about that, but like that little
Speaker 6: bit of like you know, Code Pendant, like Catholic Hill,
Speaker 6: like I didn't. I never want someone to be like hurt.
Speaker 3: I get that you ever go to a theater back
Speaker 3: in the day when you first start, because I know
Speaker 3: you sell out everywhere because I always track you, Like
Speaker 3: in cities.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my in that city, I want to
Speaker 4: go see the show. Here in Miami, I'm oh fuck,
Speaker 4: I want to see the show. But when you were
Speaker 4: just coming up, did you ever go to a room
Speaker 4: where it was like one person, two people?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, not that little, but there'd be some
Speaker 6: that were little, and it was hard because usually like
Speaker 6: a Bringer show, just like it'd.
Speaker 5: Be hard where you have to bring people.
Speaker 6: Because you still have it you don't want everyone going
Speaker 6: up there and being like, oh, we could be doing
Speaker 6: this in my living room, because then it makes the
Speaker 6: people that actually paid in part I feel like a dick.
Speaker 6: So like I always am like this is great, like
Speaker 6: oh my god, let's just like get intimate whatever, But
Speaker 6: now I'm just kind of like who cares.
Speaker 5: I mean, after COVID, I care a lot less about
Speaker 5: stuff like that.
Speaker 3: We say the same thing. It's like after COVID, everything
Speaker 3: at your perspective of appreciation goes up. At least for me,
Speaker 3: like ten thousand.
Speaker 6: Well, I would just like stress so much about like
Speaker 6: ticket sales and do you have to do a Facebook ad?
Speaker 1: And da da da da da.
Speaker 5: And now I'm like, okay, I am.
Speaker 6: Going to still go on and do these shows, Heather Dalda,
Speaker 6: I'm going to big cities and you know, but I
Speaker 6: didn't want to even I didn't want to jump to
Speaker 6: like a bigger venue because I was like, I just
Speaker 6: want them.
Speaker 5: I wanted to be sold out.
Speaker 6: I wanted to do not't worry about it, like I
Speaker 6: don't totally and like I like this size and I
Speaker 6: like how it works and like maybe next time. But
Speaker 6: so yeah, because the whole point is like I like
Speaker 6: to go to do the craft.
Speaker 5: It's not really about the money on the.
Speaker 6: Rush for me, because so few people do what I do,
Speaker 6: you know, that can go and stand for an hour,
Speaker 6: And I don't ever want because I stopped doing it
Speaker 6: for those seven years when I was like having babies
Speaker 6: and but I was never like on the road or anything.
Speaker 6: And so now that I've established like a headlining thing
Speaker 6: in the years after Chelsea and stuff, I just don't
Speaker 6: ever want to get Let it goes so long. It's
Speaker 6: fine when it's a pandemic. It was kind of great, right.
Speaker 6: I'd be like, oh my god, if they just told
Speaker 6: me that the club was on fire last night, and
Speaker 6: I'd be kind of just because I didn't want to
Speaker 6: like packs, I'm laying on my bed and I see
Speaker 6: too because I don't want to pack. But so it
Speaker 6: was kind of like, you know, of course I didn't like,
Speaker 6: you know, I felt bad for people, but at the
Speaker 6: same time it was kind of a nice break. And
Speaker 6: so now when I'm starting up again, I have to
Speaker 6: be like, don't become a bitch, don't get crazy.
Speaker 3: Be exciting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because like if I ever could plain Peter's like,
Speaker 6: well you said, so I'm like, okay, so now I
Speaker 6: can't even talk to anybody about it because I agreed
Speaker 6: to do this.
Speaker 3: Three questions. Last three questions. Biggest venue you ever performed then,
Speaker 3: like the most perstitous.
Speaker 6: Or biggest some arena and I opened for Chelsea and
Speaker 6: it was like ten thousand wow, and then to the
Speaker 6: people yes, And then for my own shows, I think
Speaker 6: the most I've done is like maybe in like maybe
Speaker 6: like a six hundred rates.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's for comedy, that's yeah, okay. Second question, the
Speaker 3: person that you were the biggest star, biggest, most famous
Speaker 3: person that came to a show that you were shocked
Speaker 3: came to your show? Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Like not somebody, not a celebrity that you know now
Speaker 3: and that you're friends with, but just you were just
Speaker 3: shocked they showed up or somebody told you they were
Speaker 3: showing up day of and you had no idea. Is
Speaker 3: there is there any moment like that?
Speaker 6: God, it might have to come back to that one,
Speaker 6: because I know that there there were a lot though during.
Speaker 5: That time because they because Chelsea was on and stuff,
Speaker 5: and then but now it's.
Speaker 3: Just like now, yeah, I've.
Speaker 6: Never been I've never really been starstruck by anybody because
Speaker 6: working on Chelsea you really saw like everybody. So when
Speaker 6: people are always like, oh, who was it, I'm like,
Speaker 6: first of all, everybody's nice, right, And I will also
Speaker 6: say that every guest that came on the show was
Speaker 6: very nice too, Like the assholes are a guest on
Speaker 6: a show?
Speaker 4: What do you have coming up that we should know
Speaker 4: that's coming like next? Just and we know your your Juicy.
Speaker 6: Jes scoop is every Tuesday Thursday, and you know I'm
Speaker 6: doing it for six years.
Speaker 5: Love it anywhere you listen.
Speaker 6: Obviously, we also do it on YouTube too, so you
Speaker 6: can watch the whole thing on YouTube.
Speaker 5: And that's kind of cool because we've.
Speaker 6: Picked up like like there's a whole I don't know,
Speaker 6: thirty forty thousand, and now that's not that much because
Speaker 6: it's I'm not like a YouTuber, but.
Speaker 5: That actually watch it there. They really like watching it.
Speaker 6: That's listening, So you know, we do it there too,
Speaker 6: which is a lot of extra effort. But whatever, why
Speaker 6: did I start that?
Speaker 5: Now it's like if it's not up, they freak out.
Speaker 6: No. But and then I have a bunch of dates
Speaker 6: starting in August, San Francisco and then through the fall.
Speaker 5: And where we see those dates heatherickdal dot net.
Speaker 6: I'm going to all the big cities show Chicago, New York, Boston, Philly,
Speaker 6: San Francisco, see at all, Atlanta and Nashville.
Speaker 1: Damn you get a girl. But I'll go home in
Speaker 1: between them.
Speaker 2: You'll post you'll post this on your Instagram too, right, No,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: Like to promote people. Oh what I like to make
Speaker 5: this pod. I'm joking.
Speaker 3: You know your dates?
Speaker 6: Yes, everything will be and Heather McDonald yet so I
Speaker 6: don't want to post the dates all the time.
Speaker 5: But once in a while you throw it up there
Speaker 5: you remind people that is.
Speaker 3: There your attitude, I have to say, because I know
Speaker 3: you at least that party, But this is the funniest
Speaker 3: your attitude of like I just don't give a ship
Speaker 3: and I don't want to work that hard. I've ever
Speaker 3: seen the truth. You're like, it's so much to pack
Speaker 3: a bag and get on a plane. But but I.
Speaker 4: Will say that I know you act that way, but
Speaker 4: when it comes to your comedy, it's a hard thing
Speaker 4: to do and very few.
Speaker 5: People can do on the stage.
Speaker 6: It's my most favorite thing to do it's amazing. I'm
Speaker 6: just saying sometimes the effort and the stress around getting
Speaker 6: on the stage, I totally get it. Being on stage
Speaker 6: is the best part, right, It's it's getting to it. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's all that other stuff.
Speaker 1: To get it.
Speaker 2: It's going on a vacation where you're like so excited
Speaker 2: to go to Paris or whatever, and you're like, fuck,
Speaker 2: I have to pack.
Speaker 5: I've never been to Paris a little bit.
Speaker 3: Okay, you too, I mean you should just honestly, just
Speaker 3: I mean I could run two weeks of episodes. You're
Speaker 3: going back to front. By the way, everybody hasn't been
Speaker 3: to Paris.
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 3: No, you don't know. You don't. You don't. She doesn't
Speaker 3: tell her.
Speaker 6: I am going to go on a really fabulous trip
Speaker 6: though this next summer.
Speaker 3: I think she should go with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yease.
Speaker 6: Now my kids are old and I can afford it.
Speaker 6: It's like the double whooming. I can finally do it right,
Speaker 6: like when I was young and then I couldn't go
Speaker 6: when they.
Speaker 5: Were little, and now it's like I can go.
Speaker 1: Now mom is going and doing that right.
Speaker 6: Go.
Speaker 3: I see you vacationing a lot though on your gram,
Speaker 3: So don't don't play me.
Speaker 5: I see it's all places like here and stuff, which
Speaker 5: is great.
Speaker 3: You don't like to get on a plane, you just said,
Speaker 3: so I'll do a big thing.
Speaker 5: Well, don't the first class I go on there, I
Speaker 5: go heaven. You don't need nine am first class.
Speaker 6: I have a good alcohol either, it's never like a
Speaker 6: good wine or anything.
Speaker 5: And the food I don't with a morsel. I eat
Speaker 5: the entire thing.
Speaker 3: So why so why I love playing food?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was the last podcast ever, Heather.
Speaker 5: We'll let you.
Speaker 1: We'll let you go to your your bel air hotel dinner.
Speaker 3: No blows.
Speaker 1: You're going to the bunks?
Speaker 5: Is it all Santa Monica? No, it's gonna take me long.
Speaker 3: Okay, well we want to take Heather McDonald. You've been amazing.
Speaker 3: We love you, and thank you for coming on today.