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Speaker 1: Now we got the real jam down.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Space Jam, Ace Djo Chains jud Yo

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Speaker 2: Days at the Space Jam. Good morning, sweet world, and

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Speaker 2: welcome to the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 2: It's Friday, May twenty ninth. This is Film Session and

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Speaker 2: today we're breaking down nineteen ninety six basketball movie Space Jam.

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Speaker 2: I'm J Skeets and joining us on the phone. Today

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Speaker 2: we got the Bearded One, Trey Kirby. Hey, Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we got the international Man of Mystery taking it to

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 2: There he is and our special guest today. He is

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Speaker 2: Serious XM NBA, and he loves bad movies, which is

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Speaker 2: why we're having them on today. It's Zach Harper. Zach,

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: Oh man? Do I love me some bad movies? Like

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Speaker 2: We got a doozy to break down today, but before

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Speaker 2: the Athletic dot Com. We'll be beach stepping it up

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Speaker 2: next week. Get those cues in. Follow us on social

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Speaker 2: media Twitter and Instagram at No Dunksinc. Lee another successful

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Speaker 2: pop in packs Yesterday. Who is your guest yesterday?

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Speaker 1: I had the Big X Man, the former Sonic, former

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it was a lot of fun. But I

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Speaker 2: Xavier McDaniel. But did he have fun? You know the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, likely story. I think I've watched Xavier McDaniel and

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Speaker 2: So our movie it is nineteen ninety six Space Jam,

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Speaker 2: Or is this like you know Zach was alluding to,

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Speaker 5: Is it a basketball movie? Sure, there's lots of basketball

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Speaker 2: Right, So when it comes to the title of this movie,

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Speaker 5: Because they all live in Chicago. They're big Jordan's guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh interesting, So I can see why my my

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Speaker 2: So okay, So you enjoyed this as a child, I

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Speaker 2: Sorry, because what they were just laughing and thinking it's hilarious,

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Speaker 2: Because I am one of those ones that I'm always saying, no,

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Speaker 2: Because I know it's not because like, oh, MJ's such

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they do. It's this movie is made by people

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Speaker 5: Why are you creating the Monstars at all? Why are

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Speaker 5: And there's already villains that you could use. You got

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Speaker 2: which which is funny because then he's also smoking a

433
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 2: cigar a lot and that's very MG. Like, yeah, it's

434
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,719
Speaker 2: got to be. It's got to be rouse, I would think.

435
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 2: But he's not that great at putting together a team

436
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 2: in my opinion, Like he's got too many bigs on

437
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 2: this team with Barkley, Ewing, Johnson and Bradley. He's got

438
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 2: two centers and two power forwards basically, and then yeah,

439
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 2: you got Muggsy. But but you you like you like

440
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,239
Speaker 2: the little guy, you like the little red guy? Lee,

441
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite? Is it Sean Brawley? The

442
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 2: blue guy is like the I guess, the lovable goof

443
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 2: of the Monstar. Yeah, Blanco, yeah, Blanco Yeah.

444
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not super familiar with all their names, but

445
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 1: uh well no.

446
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be No, you shouldn't be, because they're never said.

447
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 3: In the movie.

448
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

449
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 2: I don't think nerd Lucks has ever even said in

450
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 2: the movie, but we somehow know that's what they're called.

451
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you know they they when they take

452
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 1: on the extra juice and they become big, you know,

453
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 1: big guys like it's great. They embrace that role. And

454
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: then when they lose it at the end, that's sort

455
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 1: of kind of like, oh okay, yeah, we had to

456
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 1: deal it is anyway. Well, Jordan says that to them, really,

457
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 1: so you know, I mean, look, they're all fun guys,

458
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 1: aren't they really? You feel full of it at the

459
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,479
Speaker 1: end of the day. None of them jokes, are they not?

460
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 1: None of them are jokes. They're just they're fun guys.

461
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 2: Fascinating guys. Trey, what about you?

462
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm certainly a Blanco man as well. I

463
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 4: feel bad for him. You know, they gave him the

464
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 4: best lines because he had to be inhabited by Sean Bradley,

465
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 4: and that's you know, that's a tough get if you're stealing,

466
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 4: if you're stealing talents, I suppose if you had never

467
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 4: heard of basketball.

468
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 2: You would immediately go for the tallest guy.

469
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 4: But there's that scene of Sean Bradley having his power stolen,

470
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 4: and the only way you can tell that he has

471
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 4: his power stolen is that he's running very slowly, and

472
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, kind of similar you know, yeah, yeah, looks

473
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 4: like he's still got it. If you ask me.

474
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 3: My takeaway, if you felt this, I don't know how

475
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 3: familiar you are with the Nemo universe, but I felt

476
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 3: like it was like the original Dory, like the Sean

477
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 3: Bradley was the vibe I got. Wow.

478
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: I had never thought about that, but I can definitely

479
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 2: see the similarities. Yeah, yeah, I do. That's a good point,

480
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 2: the original doors. Yeah, the thing we would get to

481
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: that on this on this podcast. No, that's a that's interesting.

482
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: One thing I noticed, And maybe it's because we had

483
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: just done the film Eddie, which was filmed around the

484
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: same time, and I knew in doing a little research, Yeah,

485
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 2: great movie, that that In doing some research for Eddie,

486
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 2: we figured out, you know, Muggsy Bogues was injured during

487
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: that time, you know, he was rehabilitating a leg injury.

488
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: I don't think Muggsy has ever stand well, he sort

489
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: of he hobbles at one point, but he must have

490
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 2: of course had the same injury and was still rehabbing

491
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: it in this movie, because you know the scene where

492
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: we get like the montage of the NBA guys who

493
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: have now lost their powers and are like seeing the

494
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: therapists and they're in the hospital and they're doing all

495
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 2: these tests on them to figure out what the hell

496
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: went wrong and why they're suddenly not great basketball players.

497
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: There's a scene where Charles isn't with them, but the

498
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 2: three other giant guys Sean Ewing and then Johnson and

499
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 2: then Muggies in front with a doctor and they're walking

500
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: down a hallway in the hospital and they all hit

501
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: their head. I'm pretty sure Muggsy is being wheeled in

502
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: that scene, yeah, okay, okay, yeah.

503
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: Because I could not figure out how he was moving.

504
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like gliding. He's like on a dolly. It's

505
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: so weird. But and then I was like, oh, yeah,

506
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 2: that makes sense. They filmed in ninety six. He probably

507
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 2: really couldn't be walking around. And then of course he

508
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: is in a wheelchair and a couple scenes later and

509
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: then later in the movie he like again, he gets

510
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: up and hobbles at one point and they're like, all right, Muggsy,

511
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: we need you to stand here, man. He's like, all right,

512
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: I'll right anything for you, MJS. But okay, yeah, I

513
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: don't know. It's a funny little scene that popped into

514
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 2: my head. Well what do we think of Okay, Jady,

515
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: you're not a fan of the the Looney Tunes themselves,

516
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: but what about all the cameos like forget forget the

517
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 2: basketball players for a second, but what about Bill Murray

518
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: and and Newman and Waye Night?

519
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 5: In this way? Night is great in this movie, and

520
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 5: it so is. Bill Murray is always awesome. He the

521
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 5: scenes that he's in are are great. I mean you

522
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 5: I was. I felt like I was watching a movie finally,

523
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 5: you know. And and that's a good thing, I thought.

524
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 5: And and Wayne Night is great too, and Michael Jordan

525
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 5: is fine. Can consider that he is acting against nobody

526
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 5: in a massive green space and people in green outfits

527
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 5: like he does not do too badly for a guy

528
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 5: who does not act, And and I would say that

529
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 5: across the board. You do notice, though, when Bill Murray

530
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 5: starts talking to the characters that you notice a difference,

531
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 5: like he's great at talking to nobody. But but yeah,

532
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 5: I thought it was all great Larry Bird. Yeah, you know,

533
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 5: I mean, oh, I thought was fine.

534
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he was fine. He was pretty comfortable

535
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: I thought in that role.

536
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, because he's standing next to Bill Murray, you know,

537
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 5: like I think all of his scenes are with Bill Murray, right, Yeah,

538
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 5: but yeah, I mean it was. It's fine. Every all

539
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 5: the humans in the movie are fine. There's the people

540
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 5: behind behind the scenes that I have a real problem with.

541
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: I thought Wayne Knight was good in it as well.

542
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: And you know there's the part where Michael Jordan makes

543
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: a sub but he picks I can't remember who he

544
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: picks over Wayne Knight, who's sitting on the bench trying

545
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: to come in, and he just like flabbergasted on the side.

546
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: Oh you picked him over.

547
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 5: Me, little mouse.

548
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, that's what it was. Yeah. But you know,

549
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: he embraced that role as he always does and sort

550
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: of makes it his own.

551
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: And I'm always playing the same guy. Yeah, yeah, Newman.

552
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: Well he was peak. He was peak Newman at the

553
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: time of course as well.

554
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 4: So you know, sometimes he's Newman delivering mail, sometimes he's

555
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: Newman playing basketball. Sometimes he's Newman steing stealing DNA. The

556
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 4: guy can do it. All. I do think that like

557
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 4: seeing him and now having seen the last dance, you're like,

558
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 4: Wayne Nate could have easily been a sniff bro right,

559
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 4: Like he would fit in off that and collect him

560
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: very easily.

561
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: I tell you what, though, Way Night nailed an incredible

562
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: basket there too. There's five guys trapped on him and

563
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: he still dropped it in from half court. That was unbelievable,

564
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: better than even fat boys in in Ting Wolf Job Chubby, Yes, you.

565
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: Just call the guy that we're calling chubby already fat boy.

566
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: Well, he says, shoot a fat boy. That's a that

567
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: I remember.

568
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you like the shot where what's his name

569
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: of the movie?

570
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: Stan?

571
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: Right?

572
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 3: Uh?

573
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: Stan hits the shot and then flattens into a pancake

574
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: and then it's like a whoopee cushion. I don't know.

575
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: I'm sure your kids enjoyed that part. That's a yeah. Actually,

576
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 2: that's an interesting part of the movie because we find

577
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: out basically Bugs at that point finally tells Michael Jordan

578
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: hey man, anything goes here in Betty Tunes universe and

579
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 2: seconds left, Yeah, And she's like, oh, what do you mean,

580
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: I can just stretch my arm and drop it in

581
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: the basket from half court. He's like, yeah, I guess.

582
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: So he's like, all right, maybe I'll try that now.

583
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: Thanks for telling me what I got here. Oh my goodness, Okay,

584
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: let's I do want to talk about Lola Man, this

585
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: new character, obviously the female female bugs Bunny for lack

586
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 2: of a better explanation, which is basically what she has.

587
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: I can not stand like the sexy music that plays.

588
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: It's weird.

589
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: It's really weird, so weird, Zach, Oh, my god, and

590
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: christ and Ledlo. I know if you're listening, big Lola fan,

591
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: big Space Jaan fan, but that, oh, there's something about

592
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: that is so strange to me. I get it's the nineties,

593
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 2: it's a little different time. But yeah, you you obviously

594
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: had the same reaction to that, Zach.

595
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, my girlfriend did ask. She's like, why do why

596
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 3: do car why do female cartoon animals have boobs? That

597
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: was her question to me, And I didn't have an answer.

598
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: I just yeah, yeah, that was yeah, because it's it

599
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: is and even at the end, like I don't know,

600
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: maybe this is too much living in the times, but

601
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a me too moment right

602
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 3: where she ends up. I guess she ends up liking it,

603
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: but like bugs just kisses her, Yeah, like really forcefully

604
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 3: kisses her, almost cartoonishly, one would say. And and at

605
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: first I felt uncomfortable. And I don't know if that's

606
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: actually if it's actually uncomfortable. I'm just now I'm just like,

607
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 3: I don't think you can touch anybody. I don't think

608
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: that's right.

609
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: Right. He also kissed MJ right away. Yeah, he's just

610
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: a kisser. Yeah, he is a kisser.

611
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always a bug in everybody. But that's another

612
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 4: thing that stuck out to me. So many boner jokes

613
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: in this movie. You know, the nerd Lucks wander in

614
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 4: when they're finally gonna start stealing the powers, they're all

615
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 4: like joined together underneath neath the trench coat.

616
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: They sit next to Patricia.

617
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 4: Heaton and she says, excuse me, he's doing something very

618
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: weird in his raincoat, which is something I would have

619
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: missed as a twelve year old. There's the part where

620
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: Patrick ewan Ewing goes to the therapists and he's like,

621
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: are there any other areas you're struggling to perform? No?

622
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 4: And then suddenly the Gold Club Trials came out, not

623
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: too much longer, and we're like, oh, yeah, he wasn't struggling.

624
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: And then of course, when Lola Bunny and Bugs first

625
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 4: see each other, Bugs go stiff, immediately drops to the

626
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: ground as a board of wood, where like, I get you,

627
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 4: I see what's happening here.

628
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they were pushing the boundaries in Space

629
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: Jam and in ninety six. I will say the one

630
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: redeeming quality of Lola is at least she as the

631
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: female really one of the loans sort of. I know, sorry,

632
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: no disrespect to Granny, but one of the lone female

633
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: Looney Tune characters is that she's good at basketball. I

634
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: mean that's uh, that's good. Yeah hoop, she could hoo.

635
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: But she's definitely one of the better ones. In fact,

636
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: she is the best one, right, I mean easily yeah

637
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: high fire.

638
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Bugs had to like drive a scooter at

639
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: one point to be effective.

640
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So this team runs deep the Looney or

641
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: Tune squad. I guess I should call them. From what

642
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: I could tell, the starting lineup is Tasmanian Devil at center.

643
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: You got Lola Bunny as the small forward. Daffy Duck

644
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 2: is the power forward. Bugs is running point and then

645
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: MJ of course is the shooting guard. And then the

646
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: bench is Tweety Sylvester, the Cat, Elmer Fudd, Porky, pitt Yo, Simity,

647
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: Sam Falk, Horton, Leghorn, Wiley Coyote, barnyard Dog, Granny road Runner,

648
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: pepe Lepu Beaky Buzzard is sitting on the bench all

649
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: bandaged up at one point. And then Sniffles and I

650
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: might even be Sniffles is that little, tiny little mouse

651
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: guy who I actually find adorable. I do like him,

652
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: and I might be missing a couple, but man, this

653
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: is that's a lot of people on this squad. Hello,

654
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: oh Stan.

655
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

656
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: And then of course Bill Murray becomes the final fifth guy.

657
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: I mean, how many how many did I just name there?

658
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: This is not legal, is my point? The laure Yeah, yeah, okay,

659
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: let's get to the uh Okay. So the monsters are

660
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: killing him in the first half, just destroying the tune squad.

661
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: They go into halftime and this where we get the

662
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: Michael's secret stuff. I mean, it's just performance enhancing drugs

663
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: he hands out, and or at least that's what they believe,

664
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: and everybody takes a swig and then that's it. That's all.

665
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: That's all they needed. They're like, all right, now we've

666
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: got that. I guess we're whatever Michael has. We've got now,

667
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: and we're gonna be good. And then they make the

668
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: comeback is on and then we find out, hey, man,

669
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: that was just water. Now. I said to you sort

670
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: of before we started recording GD I was surprised in

671
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: thinking back. I was like, wow, this is a commercial.

672
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: Like I'm sure in my head like, oh, there's gonna

673
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: be a million Nike references and Haines references and stuff,

674
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: and there's actually not a ton. But I thought I

675
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: couldn't believe that he said it's just water and not

676
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: Gatorade or something like that, like, I can't believe gatorade,

677
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: and you know, throw down a couple couple grand there

678
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: and say just make a gatorade, you know, that'd be nice.

679
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 5: But yeah, the problem that if I'm Gatorade, though, the

680
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 5: problem is that the quote unquote moral of the whole

681
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 5: thing is that, oh, it didn't help you at all,

682
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 5: and Gatorade wants you to be like, yeah, you need

683
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 5: Gatorade to be great at whatever sport you're doing. So

684
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 5: I there may have been a conflict there because Gatorade

685
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 5: is mentioned in in Wayne Knight's laundry list that he's

686
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 5: reading to Jordan while he's trying to get him to

687
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 5: go to the baseball game. But and that that whole

688
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 5: sort of of that whole confidence thing, that hole you

689
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 5: had it in you the whole time is just so

690
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 5: washed over. Like they spend so much time like passing

691
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 5: around the juice sort of thing. But then when it

692
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 5: comes to the time for them to say, oh, by

693
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 5: the way, you had it in you all along, there's

694
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 5: no real like moment where like, really, yeah, awesome, let's

695
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 5: let's just do this. Let's get together as a team

696
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: and do it. But really it's just you know, stretch

697
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 5: your arms, Michael, and we'll win the game.

698
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was like if they had a certain wolf

699
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: on their team, you know, who played really well.

700
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 5: I just realized they can hang up on you at

701
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 5: any time.

702
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: Please do, please do.

703
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: This is my least favorite part of the week.

704
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: So Lee, who's the style Stolensky of?

705
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they didn't really have one, did they have.

706
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's got to be Daffy Duck, doesn't it.

707
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: By the way, I will say it was great when

708
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: Daffy got introduced in those no applause, Oh great, make

709
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: fun of the duck. But yeah, no, there was There

710
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: was no real styles on the team, and maybe that's

711
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: what they needed, you know, a bit of a marketing push.

712
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, marketing is a problem for apparently, so apparently

713
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: it was.

714
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: I thought it was also a missed opportunity because we

715
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: obviously see a couple of a couple of different pairs

716
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: of Jordan's in this movie, like none of the cartoons

717
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: other than I think Lola might have been wearing shoes

718
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: at one point, but no one else is wearing shoes,

719
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: which was also a question my girlfriend had.

720
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah that I thought the exact same thing. I had

721
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: that in my notes. Yes, I took notes watching this.

722
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: It's so sad, exactly what I thought. And I was

723
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: talking to my buddies last night, like, ah, yeah, we're

724
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: gonna break down Space Jam on film session and you

725
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: know we're just like I think it was my buddy

726
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: Dubb He's like, didn't so didn't Bugs Bunny have commercials

727
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: with Jordan prior to Space Jam. I'm like, oh, yeah,

728
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: I think that's right. Like Trey, you, I know, you're

729
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: the shoeman here, You're the sole man that he had

730
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: a couple and he had a couple of Jordan's right

731
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: where it was the hair Jordan right where the marketing

732
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: of it.

733
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, Jordan's six and seven commercials were hair Jordan's.

734
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: And then you know, eventually.

735
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 4: They like made the bugs bunny shoe with a gigantic

736
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: foot and put it in a Nike town that kind

737
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: of thing. So you know they have a working relationship.

738
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: Just nice to see him take it to the next step.

739
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: Oh so maybe that's why MJ wasn't so like, you know,

740
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: worried of like why the hell am I here. Maybe

741
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, yeah, I've worked with Bugs before. He's

742
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 2: my guy, and that he doesn't need to get home

743
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: so quickly. Like how long was MJ gone? Because he's

744
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: returned to earth slashed the baseball stadium and it's like

745
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 2: his I don't know, his wife is like I didn't

746
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: even notice he was gone for the night. I guess

747
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: it's MJ. So he's, yeah, well, weird here for the night, right, Yeah.

748
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: I thought it was only like about twenty four to

749
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: thirty six hours in between games, I think, so, yeah,

750
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: so he wasn't going all that long. But his wife. Yeah,

751
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: she wasn't. Sort of like, oh my god, I thought

752
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: he'd be home by now. There was none of that.

753
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: Sou and his kids. His kids kind of good at

754
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: that too, because I had to keep the secret. Remember,

755
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: And then the kids sort of dropped it at at

756
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: the at the game and said, where's Michael at the

757
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: baseball game? He said, he's playing his other game? What

758
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: other game?

759
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: What?

760
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: What?

761
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: And then you move on.

762
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 5: How did they know about the game? Well? Why why

763
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 5: are the kids even in this movie? It's really it

764
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 5: is such a waste to me. I mean, you have you,

765
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 5: you went to the trouble of casting kids and having

766
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 5: them act in the movie, but you don't use them

767
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 5: at all. Right, Kids watch cartoons. They relate to cartoons

768
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 5: differently than adults. They could have they could have helped

769
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan with whatever it was that he was trying

770
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 5: to do, either relate to Porky Pig or or beat

771
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 5: the Monstars. They could have had some childlike insight that

772
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 5: could have helped him, and then therefore also bring their

773
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 5: relationship with their father closer. They could have been It

774
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 5: could have been like a warm and heartwarming type thing.

775
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: And but we don't get any of that. We'd get

776
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 5: the kid coming home from a baseball game. He's had

777
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 5: a shitty game and uh, and they're like, oh, that's

778
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 5: too bad. And then that leads to nothing. It's like

779
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 5: there's a weird thumbs up to his dad at the

780
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 5: end of the movie. Why do they bother putting any

781
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 5: of that in the movie. It doesn't make any sense.

782
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know it's I mean, they do stumble

783
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 2: upon bugs and Daffy right, trying to get the basically

784
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: get MJ's gear, including his shorts that he wears under

785
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: his under his shorts or you know, his tights or whatever. Yeah, no,

786
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: that's that's true. And his son, by the way, had

787
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: a rough day. His son was still batting six eighty

788
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: five for.

789
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 3: Five right, like it was like, yeah, yeah, he was fine.

790
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, kid's amazing. He's better than his dad at playing baseball,

791
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: that's for sure.

792
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: Jad puts so much more thought into the kid aspect

793
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: of this movie, because all I did was just look

794
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: up if it was the real kids that played him.

795
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: I knew it wasn't. I knew, I knew Jeffrey wasn't.

796
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: I knew that wasn't the real Jeffrey. But I looked

797
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: up the others, like, I don't know, I don't I

798
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: don't know what they look like when they were that young,

799
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: and so I looked that up and that was the

800
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 3: extent of my research on the kids.

801
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then so all three of them are actors. Yeah,

802
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: that's true, none of them. And of course Wanita Jordan

803
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: is not Michael's in the in the movie, is not

804
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: his real wife or ex wife. At this point, we

805
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: do get Swackhammer. I hate it. I hate that name

806
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: so much. Every time I say it, I catch myself.

807
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: We get Slackhammer or mister Swackhammer being blasted off at

808
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: the end, like because you know they had the deal.

809
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: MG does make that deal. Tuone squad winsnow, yeah exactly, Yeah,

810
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: yeah for sure, Yeah, he absolutely does, he says, And

811
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: if the monstars win, not you don't get the Looney tunes,

812
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: you get me. I will legit like I'll be the

813
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: slave of Moron Mountain. It's crazy. So but anyway, of course, uh,

814
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: the toone squad prevails, MJ gets the buzzer beater with

815
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: the stretch arms.

816
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, can I say, you know, we've had we've

817
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: had charges to win games, We've had dunks. We've had

818
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: free throws. This was the first ever thrunk to win

819
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, incredible, incredible.

820
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 3: Actually called space Thrunk, that's right.

821
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: So I love the fact that it's again a little

822
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: bit more variety and just how the game was ending.

823
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: But that and I'm not sure exactly but on site

824
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: that's probably a eight ninth one win as well in

825
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: the finals.

826
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: It's just remarkable. It's always close. But then Swackhammer gets

827
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: blasted off to wherever he gets blasted off to space?

828
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: Will we know we're getting a space Jam two? We

829
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: know we're getting whatever the hell it's actually called space Jam?

830
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: A new legacy are we going to have? Like is

831
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: this we're gonna is this where the sequels gonna pick up? Yeah,

832
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: you know Swackhammer wherever the heck he got blasted to

833
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: trying to get revenge. Yeah, Like I'm really curious, Like

834
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: you got to assume the nerd Lucks are going to

835
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: be involved in Space Jam two. But will Swackhammer or

836
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: will it be like you're saying j D. A lot

837
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: of people are like, why wasn't Why wasn't Marvin the Martian,

838
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: the the real villain? Why wasn't he the leader of

839
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: the Nerd Blocks or whatever. So I don't know. So

840
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: I guess I'm my question at all. That was and Zach,

841
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: we can we can start with you? Is like, first off,

842
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: do you have high expectations for Space Jam two or

843
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: or have you written a script for it? Or like

844
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: what do you think of it's where it's gonna pick up.

845
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: No, I haven't quite written a script for Space Jam two.

846
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: It's a great question. I kind of just think that

847
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be related at all other than it's

848
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 3: because I just feel like Lebron's gonna want to make

849
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: it his own thing, right, and so like, I don't

850
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: think you're gonna have like I think we'll have obviously

851
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: players getting their power stolen, but but outside of that, like,

852
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be like it might be

853
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: a save the world type of thing, like Lebron is

854
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: the hero for the world. But no, I wouldn't say

855
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: my expectations are high. I like, I'm assuming I'll see it,

856
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: even though it kind of feels like an Uncle Drew

857
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: type of thing for me and I refuse to watch

858
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: Uncle Drew. It might be good, it might not be

859
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm never gonna see it, So it's

860
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 3: like it's right up there with like the Point Break

861
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: remake for me, except I like Point Break, so I

862
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: so like I I revered that. But yeah, I don't

863
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: know that Space Jam two is high on my list

864
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: even for my movie taste.

865
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: Do we think we'll see Okay, do we think I mean,

866
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: you'll be able to bet on this probably? Will we

867
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: see Michael Jordan in Space Jam two? Will we see

868
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: Bill Murray in Space Jam two? Will we see Swackhammer?

869
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: And they get the big names? Hold on, let me.

870
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: This, well they do, like, will Swackhammer's voice just be

871
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: Draymond Green? Well?

872
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: That oh wow wow? Yeah, so Danny DeVito is the

873
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: voice in this one.

874
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 5: I'm scanning the IMDb for a Space Jam and New

875
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 5: Legacy and I'm not seeing DeVito and I'm not seeing

876
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 5: Swackhammer and I'm not. So yeah, nerd thing, but you

877
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 5: never know because these things are usually very secretive.

878
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I guess, like, yeah, the nerd lucks

879
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: in the end of the movie become they basically say,

880
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: can we live here?

881
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: Right?

882
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: Can we be Looney Tunes care hopeless? Yeah? They really

883
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: are they and they take them in I guess, so

884
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: they're part of the They're part of the squad. Now

885
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: I actually died laughing. I don't know how I found it.

886
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: I like stumbled upon some like, uh, what's it. It's

887
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: like it's I think it's called like Villain's wiki, right,

888
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: and it's the Monstar's page, and it's like down the

889
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: side it says, you know, full name Nerdlucks, alias the

890
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: Monstars or the Mean Team Headquarters more on Mountain leaders

891
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: mister Swackhammer or Pound the orange one, also the leader

892
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: on the Nerdlucks, the or the Monstars members Bang Bupkiss

893
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: Blanco not And then this part made me laugh for

894
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: some reason. Occupation amusement park workers, formerly basketball players, formerly

895
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: looney Tunes currently like I love thinking that these five

896
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 2: guys have like a LinkedIn profile page and they've gotten

897
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: this all updated on it.

898
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 4: Well, they've got a union, so as long as they're

899
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 4: paying dues, I'm guessing they're getting their cards and it's

900
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 4: that easy. But they got to be involved in some way.

901
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 4: I have a little bit I don't know. I mean,

902
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: I guess I'm comparing my expectations as a twelve year

903
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 4: old versus my expectations as a thirty six year old,

904
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 4: But I got high expectations for Lebron being better than

905
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 4: Jordan was in basically the same role. Lebron just is

906
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 4: a little bit more natural as an actor, I think

907
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: than MJA.

908
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you, Trey. He again, I didn't

909
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 5: have any problem with Michael Jordan's performance, but I do

910
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 5: think that on screen Lebron can be a little bit

911
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 5: more charismatic, and I think he's got a little more

912
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 5: comedy chops.

913
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: And you just from just what we see him personally

914
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: like in interviews and even some of his acting roles already.

915
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 5: All that and just his social media is he's just

916
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 5: a charming guy on it on Instagram, And yeah, I

917
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 5: just find him to be a charismatic guy. I've always

918
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 5: liked always when meeting seeing him in this being in

919
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: the same room with him, Like obviously he's very popular,

920
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 5: but he also just he is the focus of the room.

921
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 5: And it's not just because he's a superstar. He is

922
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 5: this larger than life guy and he is really really

923
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 5: good at making you like him.

924
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: Do you think Michael Jordan likes Space Jam Because it's

925
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: a great question, because yeah, because like I do a

926
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: little research in doing a little research. They wanted him

927
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: to do a second one. I mean obviously, like, like

928
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: I said, they made over two hundred million dollars, Like duh, Like, yeah,

929
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: let's just do this, MG, come on back, we'll get

930
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: the gang together. And he's like, no, I don't want to.

931
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 2: Now did he say no, I don't want to because

932
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: he's obviously caught up and trying to win more championships

933
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: And it's like whatever he's done with that, or or

934
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: or like I like to consider or think because he's like,

935
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: that movie sucked, I don't want to do that. We're

936
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: not going to do that again.

937
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: But maybe not. I don't know.

938
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 5: I think the experience of of shooting the movie was

939
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 5: probably not pleasant for him, considering the timing of it.

940
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 5: Where wasn't it the year he came back and then

941
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: they lost to was it the Magic? Yeah?

942
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think in some weird way he blames

943
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 2: the loss to the Magic on Bugs Bunny Lola.

944
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 5: No they shot after that, though, didn't they.

945
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: I mean no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was the

946
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: summer before ninety sixties.

947
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're probably doing table reads.

948
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah.

949
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 4: I don't know.

950
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 2: I just don't know, I wonder if mj first off,

951
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: has he ever watched it? Geez?

952
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean he must have watched it, you would think,

953
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't.

954
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 4: I don't know you to imagine Michael Jordan ever watching

955
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 4: a movie. I just can't picture him sitting down to

956
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 4: watch a movie.

957
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

958
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: The only one I can picture him watching his Mean

959
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: Girls and other than that, like, I just don't see it.

960
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: It's like has got it all right, you.

961
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: Know about her.

962
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: I can see him actually watching No Country for Old

963
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: Men because the guy's just going around killing everyone. You know,

964
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: he's got vendettas against everybody. I can see him like that.

965
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: You know, this seems like really into death wish and

966
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, you know, I think

967
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: he relates a little bit too. What's that guy's name, Yeah,

968
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: Anton Shagur. I think he can relate to him.

969
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: Anyone.

970
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: Anyone who upsets Anton is dead and that's it. And

971
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a bit like Michael. Once you upset him,

972
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: he's got a vendetta against you for life.

973
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you'll never forget what swack Himber tried to do.

974
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 3: Yea, that classic space jam No Country for Old Men together.

975
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 3: That's so cliche at this point.

976
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so before we eventually get to grading this movie,

977
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: are there any random observations or anything else you guys

978
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about with this movie, something that surprised

979
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: you or whatever.

980
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: Well, Bill Murray rock and the Jordan Too's. I like that. Absolutely,

981
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: he's going to increase the school that I give this

982
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: movie because he didn't look all that cool rocking them,

983
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: but they are cool shoes, so it you know, it

984
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: was worth it that that's what the ones they went with.

985
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so you're a big fan of the footwear

986
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: that Bill Murray was wearing. Yeah, Bill Murray's is I

987
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: think totally fine in this and there are you like

988
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: you know you every time he would say something, I

989
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I doubt they wrote that. It feels

990
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: like Bill Murray said, let me say this.

991
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, Like when Daffy's like, how'd you get here,

992
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, had a team star drop me off?

993
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, how it goes?

994
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: You know, anytime Bill Murray's on the screen, he is

995
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 4: stealing the scene and he crushes it like. He's great

996
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 4: in his role.

997
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: For sure.

998
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 2: He's the best part of the movie. If you ask me, Zach,

999
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: is there any random observations.

1000
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like forty eight two run to start the second

1001
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: half just seemed a little like I called time out.

1002
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: At some point, I felt like it's not a great

1003
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 3: strategy from the monsters. I know they were probably filling

1004
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: themselves up big sixty six eighteen, but forty eight to

1005
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: two run, like that's the top. And then and I

1006
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: think we can credit Sean Bradley with Michael Jordan coming

1007
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: back to the NBA in ninety five, because he basically

1008
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: is the last one to say, oh, yeah, he probably

1009
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: doesn't have it. Yeah right, And then and then it

1010
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: pants to Mike get a close up, and the next

1011
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: thing we know, we're united center. So I think Sean

1012
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: Bradley brought Michael Jordan back.

1013
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: I do love when they get their powers back, and

1014
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: like Muggsy shows off the handles again, not moving at

1015
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: all because he doesn't want to re injure himself. But

1016
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: then we get the other guys dunking, and they're just

1017
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: the most simple, two handed, boring dunks, to the point

1018
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: where even the directors like Sean's gonna be the last one.

1019
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah. They start cutting away from it, though.

1020
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: George's walking out at that point, like he's.

1021
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 2: Like, okay, care Sean Bradley's gonna dunk it. Wow, awesome,

1022
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: here's your powers back. Your losers see you in the playoffs.

1023
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: I had forgotten or I'd never noticed, I guess the

1024
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: better way to put it that the nerd Lucks wore

1025
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: bow ties. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, I love cute little

1026
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 2: guys wearing bow tiyes.

1027
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 4: Maybe probably part of the uniform at Moron Mountain, you know.

1028
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, some more on mountain to play on

1029
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: what magic mountain? Right?

1030
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: Yes?

1031
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 5: And so they're carnies, Yeah, I think so.

1032
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. There was what was the line

1033
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: in this movie where they make fun of the Anaheim

1034
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: Ducks the Mighty.

1035
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 4: Ducks because the kind of Mickey Mouse organization would name

1036
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: their team the duck.

1037
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's okay, that was pretty umb. I did

1038
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: a legit chuckle at that one. JD. Any random observations.

1039
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 5: They have more of a question really all the scenes

1040
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 5: with the with the basketball players who had lost their

1041
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 5: their powers. Ye, Barkley is not in most of those scenes.

1042
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 5: It's just the four of them, right, yeah, my dreaming

1043
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 5: and if why would that be just availability or he's

1044
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 5: just sensing conflict of some.

1045
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: Sort of No, I would my guess is just availability

1046
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: because he is in some scene. Yeah, he's at the

1047
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: end with them, for sure. You are right, though there

1048
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: are many other scenes where it's more three or four

1049
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: of them and not him. Yeah, he's in like his

1050
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: solo shots. Yeah, I don't know if that was weird. Also,

1051
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: did he didn't? Did Charles Barkley date Madonna as well

1052
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 2: as Dennis Robin?

1053
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1054
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: I didn't remember that, Yeah, because he says that in

1055
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah he does. Yeah, I had to rewind

1056
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: it to listen to that. Nothing not I don't remember

1057
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: Charles boxing.

1058
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: What didn't your son say when you und to rewind it?

1059
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's.

1060
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, Zach, do you remember anything about Charles Barkley?

1061
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: And so I got a headline here from Sam Smith

1062
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: from the Chicago Tribune in June eighth, nineteen ninety three.

1063
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: Charles Barkley says enough of this stuff about him and Madonna,

1064
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 3: which he says is not only false, but may have

1065
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: contributed to his mother in law's heart attack this weekend.

1066
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1067
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, dark way, Yeah, that is I wish I

1068
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: had read that before I started speaking out loud.

1069
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we need we need to know this stuff.

1070
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: Time to muffle Madonna noise.

1071
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so it sounds like it was made up,

1072
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: But then then why would it be in the movie.

1073
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like, she's a famous name, throw her in.

1074
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: We got every other Looney tune in here.

1075
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: My favorite part of this movie is, no doubt the

1076
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: hit Him High song the Stars Anthem. That song is

1077
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: still awesome, and the video for that song was fantastic too,

1078
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: way better than the actual Space Jam movie. And you know,

1079
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: I actually thought it played more of a role in

1080
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 2: the movie in my head, like when I was rewatching.

1081
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: But it's not in it that much that that little uh,

1082
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: that little diddy. But you're right, we unfortunately start this

1083
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: movie with the canceled R Kelly, I believe you can Fly.

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00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: It still a great song.

1085
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, you can't say that out loud anymore, JD.

1086
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 5: I just did yeah that out.

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00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 4: My first note was yikes.

1089
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: Well, I had a question about when when young Michael

1090
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 3: Jordan thinks he can fly and goes up for the dunk,

1091
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 3: like he just fell down right or was it.

1092
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: Just lay up?

1093
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: Like what am I supposed to believe an eight year

1094
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: old dunked.

1095
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. We never got back to that, do we.

1096
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, another weird, weird scene that goes nowhere with with

1097
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 5: Jordan's father there and it just is there. It's nice,

1098
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 5: I guess, but plot wise it doesn't factor in at all,

1099
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 5: not at all.

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00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: It almost feels like I have no idea if it's true,

1101
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: but like maybe MJ almost requested something like that scene obviously,

1102
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 2: you know, the timing of the passing his father and

1103
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: stuff like. That's what it feels like to me too,

1104
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: because you're right, it has there is no real reason

1105
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: to have to start in the movie with.

1106
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: That at all.

1107
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's so many scenes like that. There's another one

1108
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 5: is a weird one. But when we're when we're in

1109
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 5: space at Moron Mountain and Swackhammer is he keeps saying

1110
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 5: the customer is always right, always, like to the point

1111
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 5: where I'm like, Okay, this is going to be important.

1112
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 5: This is some sort of there's something that we're going

1113
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 5: to come back to this customer is always right thing,

1114
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 5: because they're just really really jamming it down our throats

1115
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 5: that the customer is always right, and it doesn't go anywhere.

1116
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 5: It's nothing. It's it's played for laughs, I guess, but

1117
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 5: it's not funny. So I don't understand. I don't understand

1118
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 5: this movie.

1119
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: I had forgotten the scene too, after the guys lose

1120
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: all their talents and we get a mod Ra Sean

1121
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: telling us that the five NBA players are on the

1122
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Speaker 2: disabled list. I've forgotten that scene where we're like in

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Speaker 2: l A and the Lakers are refusing to play. Yeah,

1124
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: and wow, is that weird timing with what's going on

1125
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Speaker 2: in the world now, because I think they actually even

1126
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Speaker 2: say I could be wrong, like doesn't like Vladi say

1127
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Speaker 2: something about a virus or something they're putting on masks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

1129
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Speaker 3: Wow.

1130
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: I was like, this is really strange. But yeah, I forgot.

1131
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: I forgot about some of the other cameos, Like you

1132
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: always remember the five of course players, but Del Harris,

1133
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1134
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: Del Hare's still get those royalties.

1135
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right.

1136
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

1137
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Speaker 4: I thought that was interesting to see through the twenty

1138
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Speaker 4: twenty lens. Also, like JD was mentioning, you know, Jordan

1139
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 4: basically at the end of the game, after he reveals

1140
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Speaker 4: that the secret stuff was just water all along, it's

1141
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Speaker 4: all inside of you. It's very funny to think of

1142
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 4: if they recorded it like Jordan really was to his

1143
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Speaker 4: teammates in the nineties, it would not be all inside

1144
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Speaker 4: of you. You don't get to drink my special stuff

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Speaker 4: if you don't score forty eight points at the beginning

1146
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 4: of the second half. I would love to see, you know,

1147
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 4: like a YouTube clip of somebody updating it with like

1148
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 4: the Scott Burrell footage from from the Last Dance. He's

1149
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 4: just brating bugs for missing free throws.

1150
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, there, someone should honestly do that, Like

1151
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: there's a secret scene where MJ punches bugs Bunny in

1152
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: the and you like, yeah, exactly, he's calling whoever you

1153
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: know derogatory terms and stuff like that. Oh god, that

1154
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: would actually be funny. The other one note, if you

1155
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: don't know about it, just because it is sort of

1156
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: fun to go check out, go to spacejam dot com.

1157
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: Oh you got the original website still up? It is

1158
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: just surreal to see and click around on this thing.

1159
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: Just do yourself. Favorite if you've never checked that out

1160
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: spacejam dot com. I don't know. I don't know why

1161
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: it's still like that, Zach. I don't know if you

1162
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 2: know the history of why this website is never updated

1163
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: if there's a reason to it or anything like that.

1164
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 3: I just I can only assume that auto renew is

1165
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 3: up there for the hosting, you know, like I just

1166
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Speaker 3: someone didn't click that off.

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Speaker 2: We gotta buy spacethrunk dot com. Oh sure for sure?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 5: Ye me, that's weird because the stuff that I got

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on, when the question was, do you want

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Speaker 2: to smell like a peppermint? Did you say yes or no?

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Speaker 5: I did say no to that. Oh okay, yeah, for

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Speaker 2: Critics score for Space Jam on Rotten Tomatoes forty three percent.

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Speaker 2: The audience score based off of over six hundred thousand

1237
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: user ratings that's the most we've ever had your own

1238
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 2: film session sixty three percent. So people are a lot

1239
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: higher on this movie than the critics were in our

1240
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: I guess I fell down a crazy rabbit hole. I

1241
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: actually don't, Jordan, Yeah, I accidentally stuck into a hole

1242
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: on the golf course. Beat me to it, right, but

1243
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: I did. In reading reviews. I always do that when

1244
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: we do film session, and this was my favorite. For

1245
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: some reason. It made me laugh out loud this morning. Quote.

1246
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: Space Jam is an amazing ride for those who don't

1247
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: want to watch anything serious. It's a rare film with

1248
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: a cool premise that nobody should miss out on. It's

1249
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: no Citizen Kane, but it's surely much more enjoyable and

1250
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: likable than Citizen Kane. Space Jam should be in everyone's collection.

1251
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: That was a real review I found online today. But hey,

1252
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: let's grade it ourselves. Trey, you can go first. What

1253
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: did you think of Space Jam? Any final thoughts and

1254
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: what's your ultimate score?

1255
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 4: Well, I mentioned it before. I've gone through three phases

1256
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 4: now of Space Jam fanhood, liking it, hating it, and

1257
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: now being okay with it. You know, it was just

1258
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 4: fun to watch what the girls I was asking me

1259
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 4: questions from the get go. You know, Jordan's ready to retire.

1260
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 4: First question, why are all those microphones there?

1261
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Speaker 3: Like?

1262
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 4: Good question, This is the most famous person in the world.

1263
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 4: He's retiring. But I thought he played for the balls.

1264
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 4: Well he did, and then he didn't, and then he did,

1265
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Speaker 4: And then I had to explain who the Looney Tunes are.

1266
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 4: Then I had to explain how Michael Jordan actually went

1267
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 4: about s gooring baskets they showed that montage of some

1268
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 4: of his greatest shots. Early in the movie, Ala says

1269
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 4: there are people doing defense and he just jumps over

1270
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 4: them to make it. I was like, yeah, yeah, that's

1271
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 4: why he's the goat girl. But I thought Jordan did

1272
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 4: all right. I thought he was in an even tougher

1273
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 4: spot than ray Allen. Ray Allen, and he got game.

1274
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 4: He's either acting opposite of Denzel or trying to carry

1275
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 4: a scene. Jordan has nobody else around him. He's just

1276
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 4: playing with some people in green costumes, and suddenly it turns.

1277
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: Into a movie.

1278
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 4: It does feel like a long commercial. Looney Tunes aren't

1279
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 4: usually this long. Commercials obviously aren't this long. But in

1280
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 4: the end, it's Michael Jordan sending up the reason he

1281
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 4: retired and came back to the NBA. We've got some

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Speaker 4: classic in animation. All things said, I'm going six out

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Speaker 4: of eleven Jordan. Eleven's here. I watched this at the

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Speaker 4: start of Quarantine, and I took notes then because I

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Speaker 4: didn't want to have to watch it a second time.

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Speaker 4: I still don't want to watch it a second time,

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Speaker 4: but if I ever do, I'm not gonna go in

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Speaker 4: dreading it all.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's not bad Lee. What about you?

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Speaker 1: Well, I have to say it got one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: audience score this morning in my house. I had I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it because my kids loved it so much and

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Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun. So I am Wiley

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: coyote holding up a sign with five stars on it

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Speaker 1: that wow.

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Speaker 2: Wow, wow, amazing.

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Speaker 3: What about you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean you mentioned early on in the show

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Speaker 5: that people people say you're you're shitting on my childhood

1300
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 5: if when you're when you're sitting on this movie. But

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Speaker 5: let me say this, this movie's on my childhood. Okay.

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01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 5: Chuck Jones to me is the goat. He's the goat.

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01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 5: I'm Michael Jordan, Chuck Jones and Space Jam frankly is

1304
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 5: sking with his legacy. All you Space Jam fans out there,

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Speaker 5: go back and watch the original Looney Tunes. They're all

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Speaker 5: coming out on HBO Max coming up. Please. Every single

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Speaker 5: frame of a Chuck Jones cartoon is a goddamn masterpiece.

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Speaker 1: And get off JD's low while you're out at everyone.

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Speaker 5: No, No, okay, sure, I'm an old man. Yes that's true,

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Speaker 5: but you know I'm not being cynical about this movie.

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01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 5: This movie is cynical. This this is a cash grab

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Speaker 5: of epic proportions and the timing of all the jokes.

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Speaker 5: None of the jokes work, None of the gags work.

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Speaker 5: Go back and watch them, watch the actual Looney Tunes characters,

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Speaker 5: and you will enjoy yourself. They're seventy years old, some

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Speaker 5: of them, and they still hold up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Listen, I agree with you JD on the characters

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Speaker 1: for sure. But my kids don't know those characters yet.

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Speaker 5: So for them, well, you you've got to get on

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Speaker 5: that lead.

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Speaker 1: I will trust me. I'm going to get them onto that.

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01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: But for now, you know, this is all they know.

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Speaker 1: This is the sylvestis to learn that they know, and

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01:02:48,720 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: the tweeting the bugs and they still relating. Yeah, that

1325
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: was one thing I could never understand that still Sylvester

1326
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: Stallone's name was Sylvesta liked the cat it was. It

1327
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: was a wild time in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jady, what's your ultimate score on that?

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Speaker 5: My ultimate score is zero. It's zero.

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Speaker 4: Pick whatever, swackhammer this guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Zach, have a go at this. How do you

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01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 2: want to grade this? Man?

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Speaker 3: I don't know how I follow that up? All right?

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Like I As I mentioned before, I liked

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01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 3: it enough as a kid, and I hated it when

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01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 3: I watched in my twenties, and now I'm in my

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01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 3: late thirties and I hated even more. I didn't I

1338
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 3: didn't enjoy it like I At a certain point, I

1339
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 3: think they're about twenty five minutes left, and uh, my

1340
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 3: girlfriend asked like, do you need to watch the whole movie?

1341
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 3: And that that kind of summed it up and I

1342
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 3: and I said, I don't know because I couldn't remember

1343
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: if anything important happened, and guess what, it didn't. I

1344
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: could have I could have stopped with twenty five minutes

1345
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 3: left and we we could have made the lasagna earlier

1346
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: that we made, and the lasagna was actually great, first

1347
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 3: time I made lasagna. So I give that. I give

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01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 3: that a six out of six rings. But for this movie,

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01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, you know, I think Jordan got to

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01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 3: produce some of this movie as well. That's usually what

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01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 3: happens with these things. So I'm gonna take it as

1352
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 3: Jordan the executive, and it's somewhere between a Kwame Brown

1353
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: and an Adam Morrison selection.

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Speaker 2: Okay, look, I will say this. I've always hated this movie,

1355
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: and in having to rewatch it, I thought I was

1356
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: gonna hate it even more, and I guess I didn't.

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01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: I was pleasantly surprised by how quickly it went watching it.

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01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 2: It didn't. It didn't feel like ninety minutes like you said, JD.

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01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 2: It's not really one thing I liked. I liked that

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01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 2: cool opening montage of like the credits, you know, like

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: with the bunch of MJ clips in there. I was like, oh,

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01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: that was cool, and they made it like four minutes long,

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01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: so that part was enjoyable. Yeah, otherwise this thing is pointless,

1364
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: but I'm happy to hear the kids are loving this.

1365
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 2: And again I had a real, you know, awakening when

1366
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: I realized it wasn't MJ. It wasn't the story that

1367
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: made me dislike this movie. It's that I'm not the

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01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: biggest Looney Tunes guy. So I'm sorry, j D. I

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01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: will not be going back.

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Speaker 5: To You know, this is not a true representation that

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01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 5: I get.

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Speaker 2: That, but it does feel to me like almost the

1373
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 2: last major moment that the Looney Tunes had.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what they've been up to since. I

1375
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 4: guess I haven't been keeping track too much, but I mean,

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Speaker 4: this was a major moment for the Tunes. Hopefully, you know,

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Speaker 4: the HBO Max thing works out for him. I'd like

1378
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 4: to see him get some more gigs.

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Speaker 2: I hope. I mean, I assume they've had a movie

1380
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: since this, right, Like, did they have their own movie? No?

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Speaker 5: I think I think there was a series that came

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01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 5: out that was a reboot of the Looney Tunes stuff

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01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 5: that my kids definitely much that they were into. And

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Speaker 5: it was actually it was good. It was it was

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Speaker 5: it held up not this.

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Speaker 3: I know one more thing. I know it's the nineties

1387
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 3: and like, you know, things were more physical back then.

1388
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 3: Should you somebody Sam have guns on the court?

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01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,959
Speaker 2: Well, I mean legal right, Yeah, well the nerd Lucks

1390
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: had a lot of guns too. Yeah, there's a lot

1391
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: of weapons. It's it's it's yeah. Anyway, I guess, like

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01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 2: I said, it went a little quicker than I thought

1393
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 2: it was gonna be, So that was good. But I'd

1394
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: hate this movie. I hope to never ever ever have

1395
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: to watch it again because I'm not having kids, so

1396
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 2: I'm not watching them with them. I'll tell you that.

1397
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: I will give this though. I love to hit them high.

1398
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: I still love that song, and sure it's MJ. I'll

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01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: give it two out of ten VIP skip the line

1400
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 2: passes to Moron Mountain, but so you know, we didn't

1401
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: see a lot of it, but I was intrigued by

1402
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 2: Moron Mountain. I would like to visit. Maybe that's just

1403
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 2: because we've been hold up in our houses for two

1404
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: and a half months and I want to do anything.

1405
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, two out of ten. Not a fan and

1406
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: again apology. I think that's the thing about this movie

1407
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: that really drives me nuts, is that so many people

1408
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 2: think it's a good movie and it just doesn't sit

1409
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 2: well with me because it's not right. But I know

1410
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna get angry tweet at us at No Dunks, Inc.

1411
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: And let us know if you're a fan of Space Jam,

1412
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: if you're excited for Space Jam too with Lebron and

1413
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: I can't believe we did an entire Space Jam episode

1414
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 2: and somehow avoided answering who would be the five current

1415
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: players to be the mom stars And we're gonna purposely

1416
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: leave it at that, And so you can keep emailing us,

1417
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 2: get your questions and your comments into No Dunks at

1418
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: the Athletic dot Com, especially for Beach Step in next week. Zach,

1419
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: thanks so much man for joining us. How can obviously

1420
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: listeners out there follow you. It's the easiest way to

1421
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 2: keep in touch with your work.

1422
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, at talk hoops on the old twitters and Instagrams.

1423
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 3: And then I would say, if you like, you know

1424
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 3: bad movies and you can tolerate myself and Amina al Hassen,

1425
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 3: we do have a bad movie podcast called Cenophobe, which

1426
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 3: you can find on the count the Things network, and

1427
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 3: we review movies that are forty percent or less from

1428
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 3: a critics score or an audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.

1429
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: We're about thirty eight ish episodes in Wow. We recorded

1430
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 3: like forty three of them. We've done We've done kangaroo

1431
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Speaker 3: Jack two, We've done show Girls, We've done Jade, We've

1432
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 3: done we're recording along Came Polly today, like we've done some.

1433
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 3: We've done some movies that are actually good and some

1434
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 3: movies that are just like almost broken up the podcast.

1435
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, if you if you want to kill an

1436
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Speaker 3: hour every week, well we got that for you.

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Speaker 1: If you ever do, if you ever do con Aza,

1438
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: you gotta let me know about that. One man. That's quality,

1439
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: that's that's the best bad movie of all time.

1440
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 3: That's I mean, I don't know that I agree with

1441
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 3: the word bad here, but that's a podcast for another day.

1442
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 2: Do they have to do the movies you watch have

1443
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: to be under forty percent in both of those?

1444
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 3: No, just one or the other. We can loophole it. Yeah,

1445
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 3: oh my god. Okay, we started bringing in the audience

1446
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 3: score into it because we wanted to get a couple

1447
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 3: of movies in there.

1448
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Speaker 2: Okay, I got you, I got you. Well, I know,

1449
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: my favorite movie of all time is one of the

1450
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 2: you know, has one of the lowest critics score of

1451
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: all time. Rad really yeah, Rad, Rad for the longest

1452
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 2: time had the record. I don't know if it's still

1453
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: true of like the biggest gap between the critics score

1454
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 2: and the audience score. Yeah, it was like critics had

1455
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 2: it at like eight percent and the audience had it

1456
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 2: at like ninety five percent or something something hilarious like that.

1457
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you ever do a Rad

1458
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: hollo around.

1459
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're you're yeah. We've done a couple of

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01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 3: zero percenters. I think Gotti was zero percent. With John Travolta.

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01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 3: We've done a lot of John Travolta movies. Actually, we

1462
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 3: did yeah, Gotti the Fanatic might have been zero percent.

1463
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 3: And then we just did Ballistic X versus sever which

1464
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 3: is worse than a zero percent.

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Speaker 1: Movies have you done the Gadian with Ashton Kutcher and

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01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner. That's awful movie. Oh my god, that's a

1467
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: bad movie. That's terrible.

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Speaker 3: To the list, Yeah, man, please do well.

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01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: This sounds amazing, So go check out Zach on Twitter

1470
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: and Instagram at talk hoops and make sure, yeah you

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01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: check out this cinepho. This sounds fantastic. All right for bros, you.

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 3: Heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome, thanks.

1474
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 4: For joining us, and remember Larry, that could have been me.

1475
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 2: Let's go both embrace the eight people hit How did

1476
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: you hit a bo hit a boo? Hit a boat?

1477
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 4: Hit him?

1478
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: Hit him?

1479
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 3: Hit him?

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01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: How did you.

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01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 3: Hit a mo? Seem like a un noway train. I'm

1482
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 3: in your lane, like it's only three seconds to score,

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01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 3: to win the game. To bring up