Speaker 1: Welcome into dag Van today. I'm kind of Annie Stevens,
Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, and John Osier are with me. It's week fifteen.
Speaker 1: The Daguars are preparing to take on the Debts this
Speaker 1: Sunday at Everbanks Stadium. Let's get into our big things today.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start out with connection. Trevor Lawrence is not
Speaker 1: going to play the rest of the season, as he
Speaker 1: went on ir due to injury, and that means Mac
Speaker 1: Jones has it the rest of the way. We saw
Speaker 1: success last week when mac Jones forced the ball to
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior. Hopefully we see more of that this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian's a really good player. He's obviously young, but
Speaker 2: he wants the ball. I love that about him. He
Speaker 2: likes kind of like demands it, which is awesome for
Speaker 2: a quarterback. I haven't had much of that in my career,
Speaker 2: where God's like, Hey, I really want this ball right here,
Speaker 2: throw it up. I'll make a play. So I really
Speaker 2: appreciate that about him, and for a rookie, he has
Speaker 2: a lot of confidence and just for me trying to
Speaker 2: keep him loosening the huddle and having fun out there.
Speaker 2: I feel like he played really good when he having
Speaker 2: fun and just focusing on his job and running and
Speaker 2: making plays.
Speaker 3: I prepare the saying, whether I'm wrong it's the number
Speaker 3: one corner in the league or whether it's a last
Speaker 3: radio corner in the league. I feel like they have
Speaker 3: to prepare for me, and I try to keep that
Speaker 3: man set. Just prepare myself, saying, well, I prepare myself
Speaker 3: each and every week time. I prepare myself to go
Speaker 3: out there and beat the best, and that's what I want.
Speaker 1: Bryan, Brian Thomas Junior is getting a little more animated
Speaker 1: and saying he wants the football, and you know he's
Speaker 1: a little quiet, but on the field he's not. So are
Speaker 1: they gonna be able to continue what they've been doing
Speaker 1: or what they did in the second half of the
Speaker 1: last game.
Speaker 4: What I want to know is if he's gonna get
Speaker 4: eighteen targets.
Speaker 5: I mean on Monday Night football, Jamar Chase, an LSU product,
Speaker 5: got eighteen targets. He caught fourteen of them, guy for
Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy seven yards and two touchdowns. Earlier
Speaker 5: this year, Malik Neighbors, who is a rookie from LSU,
Speaker 5: was part of the Brian Thomas class got eighteen targets.
Speaker 4: Throwing the ball eighteen times. I mean, I get it.
Speaker 5: It's a little tongue in cheek because the defense will
Speaker 5: dictate that. But John the guy's supremely talented. He's not
Speaker 5: just fast, he can jump high. He's got the body
Speaker 5: control that you're looking for in an elite receiver. If
Speaker 5: you throw it up to him, as Mac intimated, there
Speaker 5: chance is always going to have an opportunity to go
Speaker 5: make a play.
Speaker 6: What I like about him is he's got good football instincts.
Speaker 6: He doesn't tend to try to make too much of
Speaker 6: a play and lose yardage. He knows what he's doing
Speaker 6: on the field and his instincts you use it right.
Speaker 6: Eighteen might be hard to get to some games, but
Speaker 6: you saw in the second half last week what you
Speaker 6: can do when you focus on him a little bit.
Speaker 6: And I think Mac is a guy who doesn't mind.
Speaker 6: Historically when you've watched him, he doesn't mind throwing it
Speaker 6: up to a guy and letting a guy go win,
Speaker 6: even at the risk of an interception. Sometimes you have
Speaker 6: to do if you're going to force the ball to
Speaker 6: a guy. So I think you'll see some shots downfield
Speaker 6: and I think you'll see him him mac meaning try
Speaker 6: to let Brian Thomas Junior take advantage of what he
Speaker 6: can do well, which is high point the ball.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: Our second big thing today is going to be primary secondary.
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about changes on defense. We finally
Speaker 1: seeing some of them, specifically in the secondary. Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: talked about walking that fine line of playing the young players.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think as the season's progressed, guys have gotten better.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: I thought we you know, started the season, you know,
Speaker 7: we made made some mistakes. Even in the middle of
Speaker 7: the season, there were some mistakes. I think we've dust
Speaker 7: just kind of settle a little bit and guys are
Speaker 7: understanding and in rotating guys a little bit more too, right,
Speaker 7: keeping guys fresher as the game goes on has helped us.
Speaker 7: And just continuing to coach and teach and uh has
Speaker 7: you know, I think has really helped our our secondary.
Speaker 7: They played a they played a complete game.
Speaker 1: John We saw some of the young guys, Jarnie Jones
Speaker 1: out there. Antonio Johnson's starting as well. But this is
Speaker 1: a game where there could be some big plays, and
Speaker 1: we know there's that big play susceptibility to this team
Speaker 1: has had in the past. How are they gonna come
Speaker 1: bat that this week or they're still going to go
Speaker 1: with some of the young guys.
Speaker 6: Well, I go with young guys. I'd like to see
Speaker 6: Jordan Jefferson up front as a young guy that we're
Speaker 6: talking about. Wouldn't mind seeing Prince at some point. But
Speaker 6: I think the Antonio Johnson in the game was not
Speaker 6: necessarily about young guy, but is about seeing somebody who
Speaker 6: can play better than Andre Cisco. And I think they
Speaker 6: put Antonio Johnson in there and say, hey, Andrey's probably
Speaker 6: not going to be a part of this moving forward.
Speaker 6: I don't know that for sure, but it feels like that.
Speaker 6: So Antonio Johnson's in his second year, Let's see what
Speaker 6: he can do, and let's see if he can outplay
Speaker 6: a guy who's been struggling at times.
Speaker 5: Well, and you heard Doug say that they made mistakes
Speaker 5: early in the year, and they made mistakes in the
Speaker 5: middle of the season. Primarily Antonio Johnson was a guy
Speaker 5: who was very disappointing. He was out of position, he
Speaker 5: took bad angles, he wasn't playing up to the level
Speaker 5: of his talent. So now he's playing well, I thought
Speaker 5: last week was his best performance. Obviously last year he
Speaker 5: only had a few opportunities to play, so that's really exciting.
Speaker 5: I like you would like to see deanentre Prince. I
Speaker 5: think Trey Prince is a guy who's got all of
Speaker 5: the traits that you're looking for, and he's hyper competitive. Clearly,
Speaker 5: he hasn't done enough on the practice field to get
Speaker 5: on the field. The one thing I would add this
Speaker 5: week is if you're playing to win and the Jaguars are,
Speaker 5: this might not be the week to play too many
Speaker 5: of the young guys in the secondary kai because you're
Speaker 5: talking about a football professor back there.
Speaker 4: This is not Will Levis. This is a guy who.
Speaker 5: Sees the field so completely. If one guy's out of position,
Speaker 5: he'll make you pay. This is the kind of quarterback,
Speaker 5: and this is the kind of game where if you're
Speaker 5: playing to win, some of those veteran guys are going
Speaker 5: to have to be on the field in the secondary.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there were plays last week that had Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 6: been in the game. Oh yeah, there were guys running
Speaker 6: open that it would have been bad.
Speaker 1: Blow weapons over there and DeVante Anams and Garrett Wilson
Speaker 1: as well, to keep an eye and we'll talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about that coming net coming back. But our
Speaker 1: third big thing is feeling forty one. Aaron Rodgers turned
Speaker 1: forty one last week and he's still trying to make
Speaker 1: this football thing worked on. Peterson talked a little bit
Speaker 1: about where he was at at forty one.
Speaker 7: To credit right to him and what he does in
Speaker 7: the off.
Speaker 8: Season, what he does during the regular season.
Speaker 7: How he takes care of himself, because this game can
Speaker 7: you know, this game can can beat you down, you
Speaker 7: know physically. You know, forty one. I was thirty six
Speaker 7: when I shut it down, so I was I think
Speaker 7: I was back with the Eagles. Yeah, as you mentioned,
Speaker 7: it's quality control, and I was forty one, but you know,
Speaker 7: in your mind, you still feel like you're twenty one.
Speaker 7: And and I know that's probably maybe he's not, you know,
Speaker 7: thinking twenty one, but he's he's definitely. And one of
Speaker 7: the things I've always appreciated about Aaron is just the
Speaker 7: way he approaches the game, you know, and the fun
Speaker 7: that he he has, and you know, the excitement you
Speaker 7: see around him and Brian.
Speaker 1: The team's coming in there at three and ten. Obviously
Speaker 1: they've had an underwhelming season as well, Aaron Rodgers coming
Speaker 1: off that Achilles injury, so he hasn't looked quite like
Speaker 1: he has a whole, But it's dangerous to count him out,
Speaker 1: especially with the ability and the football smarts that he has.
Speaker 4: It is, and you know, I went back looking.
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers has really never been in this position in
Speaker 5: his career this late in the season to be so
Speaker 5: far out of it in just playing out the string.
Speaker 5: He's used to playing in highly competitive, meaningful games after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5: So these are all things to watch. I would say
Speaker 5: the best way to counter Aaron Rodgers, who's forty one,
Speaker 5: is for him to feel forty one, as in Josh
Speaker 5: heinz Allen who's chasing the franchise all time sack record,
Speaker 5: So he's hyper motivated. If you're going to win, if
Speaker 5: you're going to by the way, listen, the Jaguars are
Speaker 5: not scoring a lot of points ten point seven to
Speaker 5: five points since Trevor Lawrence left the starting lineup for
Speaker 5: the Vikings game. You're not gonna beat these guys that way.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to send Josh heinz Allen and he's
Speaker 5: gonna have to be a game wrecker and make forty
Speaker 5: one feel that way for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Aaron Rodgers is still dangerous. I don't
Speaker 6: know that he has as ide was saying the escapability
Speaker 6: that he used to have. But he can still put
Speaker 6: the ball in the right place. He's playing better the
Speaker 6: last few games after really being beat up for three
Speaker 6: or four games early in the season. So look, the
Speaker 6: Jets can score. They scored the last week. They put
Speaker 6: up Aaron three for three hundred yards for the first time.
Speaker 6: So I think I think twenty two Jerry Damons had
Speaker 6: to play well to beat him, and I expect him
Speaker 6: to go out and motivate it. Meaning, I don't know
Speaker 6: if these are the last games of Aaron Rodgers' career.
Speaker 6: I don't think they have to be, if he can
Speaker 6: find the right team next year.
Speaker 1: All right, stay with us here, we'll talk a little
Speaker 1: bit more about that Jets game coming up to see it.
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Speaker 1: Lots of good things coming up. Obviously, the Jets aren't
Speaker 1: dealing with a similar situation to the Jaguars three and
Speaker 1: ten coming into this game. A little bit of similarity
Speaker 1: there as they try to figure out what they're doing
Speaker 1: the rest of the year and figure out what they
Speaker 1: have going forward.
Speaker 6: But it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 4: I think theirs is more complicated. Now.
Speaker 5: Listen, some might argue it's simpler because they've already fired
Speaker 5: their coach. They've fired their coach in October, and their
Speaker 5: general manager they let go in November. So they went
Speaker 5: and fought in Miami. And you might have said, well that,
Speaker 5: I mean, they don't have a whole forty one year
Speaker 5: old quarterback Achilles. They're an interesting group because they've got
Speaker 5: some young talent and the old quarterback and they thought
Speaker 5: they had the magic concoction to compete for a championship
Speaker 5: this year and it fell apart.
Speaker 6: Well, they're very talented and late in the season sometimes
Speaker 6: you play a team it's quit or that you look
Speaker 6: at and sayhere their quarterbacks out, how are they gonna
Speaker 6: make plays? They have plenty of guys who can make plays.
Speaker 6: They have sauce guard in your on defense. They have
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers, they have DeVante Adams.
Speaker 4: That you.
Speaker 6: So sometimes late in the season you think, Okay, well,
Speaker 6: there's no way this team, if we play this level,
Speaker 6: is the way this team can beat us. The Jets
Speaker 6: absolutely have the talent, the playmakers. The question is do
Speaker 6: they have the drive?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but with both.
Speaker 6: Teams out of it, frankly, you have to ask a
Speaker 6: question about both teams.
Speaker 1: Let's look at the defense. Mac Jones talked a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's very familiar with the Jets defense playing in the AFCAS.
Speaker 1: He said it's the best defense he's ever played against.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope. So it's definitely the NFL's top defense
Speaker 2: in my opinion. You know, over my career so far,
Speaker 2: they're the best defense I've gone against each year, not
Speaker 2: only players, but scheme and coaching. Obviously, they're familiar with me,
Speaker 2: and I have some former teammates over there, and you know,
Speaker 2: guys I've played against six five six times, So definitely
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. They've done a good job this year.
Speaker 2: I know, the records the same, but really their defenses
Speaker 2: is one of a kind, and I got a lot
Speaker 2: of respect for those guys over there.
Speaker 6: John.
Speaker 1: This defense hasn't been necessarily what it's been in the
Speaker 1: past when Robert Sahal has been there. But they still
Speaker 1: have a ton of playmakers and they still have they
Speaker 1: are still up in the ranks there as one of
Speaker 1: the best defenses in the league.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the thing that concerns you the Jets are are
Speaker 6: really good in terms of yards. They have been great
Speaker 6: in terms of points, but sometimes that cannot really reflect
Speaker 6: if your offense to give us some points, if only
Speaker 6: they only have two interceptions. And Mac has shown us
Speaker 6: he can fix that. So I'm what I'm saying there
Speaker 6: is he needs to not fix that obviously.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 6: He's thrown the ball up in some in some in
Speaker 6: some rough situations so far. To me, that's the key
Speaker 6: from ACT this week. This team is not a great
Speaker 6: turnover team. Don't let them become one. Don't give them
Speaker 6: opportunities here at every Bank Stadium. Uh, and get the
Speaker 6: ball to.
Speaker 5: Betj And I mean Quinn Williams is one of the
Speaker 5: better defensive tackles in the league. Last week, the Jaguars
Speaker 5: did a really nice job against Jeffrey Simmons. This guy
Speaker 5: is a really he's a game wrecker in the middle
Speaker 5: in terms of running the ball, and the Jaguars kai
Speaker 5: desperately need to run the ball. To help Mac Jones,
Speaker 5: they have got to give him some symbols of balance,
Speaker 5: and I think the way that you do that is
Speaker 5: give it to Tank Bigsby. Could we stop with giving
Speaker 5: the bowl to Travis Etn and expecting him to run
Speaker 5: between the tackles. I just that doesn't work. Give it
Speaker 5: to Tank. He is clearly RB one on this team.
Speaker 5: When you have the express desire to run between the tackles,
Speaker 5: give it to Tank.
Speaker 4: Give it to him.
Speaker 5: Consistently soften up that Jets defense and make it easier
Speaker 5: on Mac Jones, and then figure out a different way
Speaker 5: to include Etn his explosiveness, his playmaking skill.
Speaker 4: It's better on the edge.
Speaker 5: It's better in a cutback on a stretch kind of
Speaker 5: play than between the tackles.
Speaker 4: That's Tank.
Speaker 1: Let's talk the other side of the football. We saw
Speaker 1: the defense play one of their best games of the
Speaker 1: year last year against an offense that's not so good,
Speaker 1: so this week will be a completely different challenge. We
Speaker 1: saw them play pretty well against I want to compare them. Obviously,
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams one of the best wide receivers in the league,
Speaker 1: but they played well against the likes of Justin Jefferson
Speaker 1: when they took on Minnesota. Can they translate Brian something
Speaker 1: like that over to taking on Devonte par Adams.
Speaker 5: I think that Tyson Campbell is capable of playing a
Speaker 5: big game. You know, he did a few weeks ago
Speaker 5: against Justin Jefferson, as you mentioned, and this is is
Speaker 5: that kind of a challenge for him. So if he
Speaker 5: has a good game, then you you can do some
Speaker 5: different things. With Garrett Wilson on the other side, who
Speaker 5: is a tremendous player. I mean, just as soon as
Speaker 5: you put all your focus over on Davante, here comes
Speaker 5: this guy and he's got deep speed and playmaking ability too,
Speaker 5: and that makes the quarterback so much more dangerous.
Speaker 4: Can they Yes? Will they?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's been the key, John. I mean
Speaker 5: they haven't done it very consistently in the secondary. They
Speaker 5: haven't done anything consistently in the secondary this year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the key will be the same as
Speaker 6: it was last week. Not nice job last week. Is
Speaker 6: that I'm trying to say of keeping them at the enzone.
Speaker 6: But had they not come up big and side the
Speaker 6: ten twice, that game looks a lot different. The thing
Speaker 6: that concerns you is when Aaron Rodgers gets into the
Speaker 6: red zone. If they allow long drive this week, he
Speaker 6: can finish much better than Will Levis. So I think
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a situational game. And that's what's scari
Speaker 6: You're playing Aaron Rodgers and those two receivers. They have
Speaker 6: the tools. If they are at the two and throw
Speaker 6: three times into the end zone like the Titans did,
Speaker 6: they're probably gonna get one. So I think it's imperative
Speaker 6: the Jaguar stopped the run better than they did last
Speaker 6: week early and not give the Jets the same opportunities
Speaker 6: that the Titans can't take advantage of it.
Speaker 5: This is gonna sound annoyingly redundant to people watching, but
Speaker 5: you just said it. They've got to find a way
Speaker 5: to do something early on offense.
Speaker 4: I mean it is.
Speaker 1: They should start fast.
Speaker 5: Fast, I don't care whether it's a ten minute slow
Speaker 5: drive right, get some points early, do something. They had
Speaker 5: the one touchdown in the first quarter against the Vikings,
Speaker 5: but they've done nothing early on to even give their
Speaker 5: defense something they can play with. They have got to
Speaker 5: do something something on offense early in this game because
Speaker 5: you're not gonna beat Aaron Rode even a three and
Speaker 5: ten Aaron Rodgers. You're not gonna beat him scoring ten points.
Speaker 5: That's not happening.
Speaker 1: We're begging please please start early, please, thank you. All Right,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna do our best at playing predictor as to
Speaker 1: what the headlines are gonna be on Monday after this
Speaker 1: showdown with the Jets on Sunday afternoon, Brian, what are
Speaker 1: you thinking for? Well?
Speaker 5: The Eternal Optimist ANDEE offers this December double. The Jaguars
Speaker 5: have not won back to back games since they beat
Speaker 5: the Titans here and then went to Houston last November.
Speaker 4: But you know, I just I sense an energy level.
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, when you've lost as much as they
Speaker 5: had lost, anything is going to seem more energetic than
Speaker 5: what we had experienced in that locker room put even
Speaker 5: veteran guys. I was over in a corner yesterday with
Speaker 5: Eric Armstead and Brandon Sheriff's there. Those are two salty
Speaker 5: old vets, you know, I mean even they you know
Speaker 5: we're a little more talkative. So I realized it's dangerous
Speaker 5: to predict this because Aaron Rodgers is going against a
Speaker 5: team that has given up more explosive than anyone else
Speaker 5: in the league this year and the most in team history.
Speaker 5: But I just have a sense that maybe this energy
Speaker 5: level and a young team that sees opportunity will take it.
Speaker 5: So December double to get back to back wins.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I went the same direction. I went with winning Street.
Speaker 1: Two optimists, look at you.
Speaker 6: I had to pick something. This is our jobs. I
Speaker 6: had a choice between a win and a loss. It's
Speaker 6: two ten teams. We've seen enough this year that I
Speaker 6: went with winning Stree. There's a lot of reasons that
Speaker 6: the Jets have edges because I think their skill guys
Speaker 6: are better, because they're healthier. Meaning if Christian Kirk's playing
Speaker 6: this game, I feel differently, He's not Aaron Rodgers over
Speaker 6: Mac Jones, even though Max five and zero against this team.
Speaker 6: But late in the season, things get weird. Neither team
Speaker 6: has like on paper motivation, so playing at home and
Speaker 6: it feels like last week this team hadn't quit, so
Speaker 6: I'll give them the edge in that respect.
Speaker 4: Let's get weird.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 5: It's a line from a movie, isn't it, Bill Murray?
Speaker 6: It never got weird enough for me. That's a Bill
Speaker 6: Murray line, not my life.
Speaker 1: My prediction is not as optimistic as everybody else. It
Speaker 1: makes me a big play day, unfortunately for the Jets
Speaker 1: because of the talents of the habit Why receiver Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is so smart. He's played twitch a long time.
Speaker 1: I know he can't scramble as much, but he can
Speaker 1: pick apart of defense when he needs to, and that
Speaker 1: has been one of many achilles heels for our team
Speaker 1: this season. So I would love to be wrong. I
Speaker 1: would love things to be one of those weird December
Speaker 1: games where both teams are kind of doing whatever they're doing.
Speaker 1: I would love to be wrong too, Jaguars get a win,
Speaker 1: but I am concerned about the big play on Sunday fair.
Speaker 1: I think it's fair, Yeah, hopefully wrong, but I think
Speaker 1: it's very wrong. Say with us, we're gonna talk a
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Speaker 8: Honestly, their whole defense just plays really well together. They
Speaker 8: play violent, they run to the foot ball, they're physical,
Speaker 8: and they're athletic in the back end. I mean they're
Speaker 8: athletic all over the field. Honestly, they cause problems everywhere.
Speaker 8: So we're gonna have to come prepared to be physical,
Speaker 8: to be explosive, and to have great finish all game
Speaker 8: to be successful against him.
Speaker 1: Ivan Ingram talking about the Jets defense, I have an
Speaker 1: Ingram battling through a shoulder injury that he had during
Speaker 1: the Titan game. Hasn't practiced fully, So we'll see as
Speaker 1: the week goes on what that's gonna look like.
Speaker 5: You know, he's one of those guys you need him
Speaker 5: because you're gonna need somebody other than Brian Thomas Junior
Speaker 5: for the defense to have to focus on.
Speaker 4: So hopefully his shoulder allows.
Speaker 5: Him to play on Sunday, and you just kind of
Speaker 5: get the feeling that he's due for one of those
Speaker 5: you know, nine or ten catch games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, eighty yards in a touchdown.
Speaker 6: I kind of hope he didn't have that many. The
Speaker 6: offense sometimes doesn't function that well when they're throwing short
Speaker 6: passes to him, but I would love to see him
Speaker 6: have some twenty yard passes where he breaks the defense
Speaker 6: a little bit and has the big game. It sounded
Speaker 6: this week from when Doug was talking like he'll boy,
Speaker 6: so we'll see.
Speaker 1: All right, it's gonna be another throwback game. It's our
Speaker 1: second throwback game of the year. Hopefully, Brian, you can
Speaker 1: talk to someone, pull some strings and make them permanent.
Speaker 5: If you knew how many people have come up to
Speaker 5: me at Christmas party so far this holiday season to
Speaker 5: talk about the Prowler jerseys and how much they love
Speaker 5: having them back. I think the Jaguars have an opportunity
Speaker 5: in the next couple of years to tweak the uniform.
Speaker 4: I would vote for that.
Speaker 1: Coming back as an unbiased observer, they are markedly better.
Speaker 4: I don't know why.
Speaker 6: Some combination that would be really cool, And we'll see.
Speaker 1: We shall all right enjoy the game whether it should
Speaker 1: be good. We will be back on Monday to recap
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