1 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Welcome into dag Van today. I'm kind of Annie Stevens, 2 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, and John Osier are with me. It's week fifteen. 3 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: The Daguars are preparing to take on the Debts this 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Sunday at Everbanks Stadium. Let's get into our big things today. 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna start out with connection. Trevor Lawrence is not 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: going to play the rest of the season, as he 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: went on ir due to injury, and that means Mac 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Jones has it the rest of the way. We saw 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: success last week when mac Jones forced the ball to 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior. Hopefully we see more of that this week. 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian's a really good player. He's obviously young, but 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: he wants the ball. I love that about him. He 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: likes kind of like demands it, which is awesome for 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: a quarterback. I haven't had much of that in my career, 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: where God's like, Hey, I really want this ball right here, 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: throw it up. I'll make a play. So I really 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: appreciate that about him, and for a rookie, he has 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: a lot of confidence and just for me trying to 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: keep him loosening the huddle and having fun out there. 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: I feel like he played really good when he having 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: fun and just focusing on his job and running and 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: making plays. 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: I prepare the saying, whether I'm wrong it's the number 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: one corner in the league or whether it's a last 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: radio corner in the league. I feel like they have 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: to prepare for me, and I try to keep that 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: man set. Just prepare myself, saying, well, I prepare myself 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 3: each and every week time. I prepare myself to go 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: out there and beat the best, and that's what I want. 30 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: Bryan, Brian Thomas Junior is getting a little more animated 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: and saying he wants the football, and you know he's 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: a little quiet, but on the field he's not. So are 33 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: they gonna be able to continue what they've been doing 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: or what they did in the second half of the 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: last game. 36 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: What I want to know is if he's gonna get 37 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 4: eighteen targets. 38 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 5: I mean on Monday Night football, Jamar Chase, an LSU product, 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 5: got eighteen targets. He caught fourteen of them, guy for 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy seven yards and two touchdowns. Earlier 41 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: this year, Malik Neighbors, who is a rookie from LSU, 42 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 5: was part of the Brian Thomas class got eighteen targets. 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: Throwing the ball eighteen times. I mean, I get it. 44 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 5: It's a little tongue in cheek because the defense will 45 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 5: dictate that. But John the guy's supremely talented. He's not 46 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 5: just fast, he can jump high. He's got the body 47 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 5: control that you're looking for in an elite receiver. If 48 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 5: you throw it up to him, as Mac intimated, there 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 5: chance is always going to have an opportunity to go 50 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 5: make a play. 51 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 6: What I like about him is he's got good football instincts. 52 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 6: He doesn't tend to try to make too much of 53 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 6: a play and lose yardage. He knows what he's doing 54 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 6: on the field and his instincts you use it right. 55 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 6: Eighteen might be hard to get to some games, but 56 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 6: you saw in the second half last week what you 57 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 6: can do when you focus on him a little bit. 58 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 6: And I think Mac is a guy who doesn't mind. 59 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 6: Historically when you've watched him, he doesn't mind throwing it 60 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 6: up to a guy and letting a guy go win, 61 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 6: even at the risk of an interception. Sometimes you have 62 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 6: to do if you're going to force the ball to 63 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 6: a guy. So I think you'll see some shots downfield 64 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 6: and I think you'll see him him mac meaning try 65 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 6: to let Brian Thomas Junior take advantage of what he 66 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 6: can do well, which is high point the ball. 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: All right. 68 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: Our second big thing today is going to be primary secondary. 69 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about changes on defense. We finally 70 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: seeing some of them, specifically in the secondary. Doug Peterson 71 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: talked about walking that fine line of playing the young players. 72 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think as the season's progressed, guys have gotten better. 73 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: You know. 74 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 7: I thought we you know, started the season, you know, 75 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 7: we made made some mistakes. Even in the middle of 76 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 7: the season, there were some mistakes. I think we've dust 77 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 7: just kind of settle a little bit and guys are 78 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 7: understanding and in rotating guys a little bit more too, right, 79 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 7: keeping guys fresher as the game goes on has helped us. 80 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 7: And just continuing to coach and teach and uh has 81 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 7: you know, I think has really helped our our secondary. 82 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 7: They played a they played a complete game. 83 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: John We saw some of the young guys, Jarnie Jones 84 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: out there. Antonio Johnson's starting as well. But this is 85 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: a game where there could be some big plays, and 86 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: we know there's that big play susceptibility to this team 87 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: has had in the past. How are they gonna come 88 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: bat that this week or they're still going to go 89 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: with some of the young guys. 90 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 6: Well, I go with young guys. I'd like to see 91 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 6: Jordan Jefferson up front as a young guy that we're 92 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 6: talking about. Wouldn't mind seeing Prince at some point. But 93 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 6: I think the Antonio Johnson in the game was not 94 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 6: necessarily about young guy, but is about seeing somebody who 95 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 6: can play better than Andre Cisco. And I think they 96 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 6: put Antonio Johnson in there and say, hey, Andrey's probably 97 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 6: not going to be a part of this moving forward. 98 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 6: I don't know that for sure, but it feels like that. 99 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 6: So Antonio Johnson's in his second year, Let's see what 100 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 6: he can do, and let's see if he can outplay 101 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 6: a guy who's been struggling at times. 102 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 5: Well, and you heard Doug say that they made mistakes 103 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 5: early in the year, and they made mistakes in the 104 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 5: middle of the season. Primarily Antonio Johnson was a guy 105 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 5: who was very disappointing. He was out of position, he 106 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 5: took bad angles, he wasn't playing up to the level 107 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: of his talent. So now he's playing well, I thought 108 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 5: last week was his best performance. Obviously last year he 109 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 5: only had a few opportunities to play, so that's really exciting. 110 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 5: I like you would like to see deanentre Prince. I 111 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 5: think Trey Prince is a guy who's got all of 112 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 5: the traits that you're looking for, and he's hyper competitive. Clearly, 113 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 5: he hasn't done enough on the practice field to get 114 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 5: on the field. The one thing I would add this 115 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 5: week is if you're playing to win and the Jaguars are, 116 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 5: this might not be the week to play too many 117 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 5: of the young guys in the secondary kai because you're 118 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 5: talking about a football professor back there. 119 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 4: This is not Will Levis. This is a guy who. 120 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 5: Sees the field so completely. If one guy's out of position, 121 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 5: he'll make you pay. This is the kind of quarterback, 122 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 5: and this is the kind of game where if you're 123 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 5: playing to win, some of those veteran guys are going 124 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 5: to have to be on the field in the secondary. 125 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, there were plays last week that had Aaron Rodgers 126 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 6: been in the game. Oh yeah, there were guys running 127 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 6: open that it would have been bad. 128 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: Blow weapons over there and DeVante Anams and Garrett Wilson 129 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: as well, to keep an eye and we'll talk a 130 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: little bit about that coming net coming back. But our 131 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: third big thing is feeling forty one. Aaron Rodgers turned 132 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: forty one last week and he's still trying to make 133 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: this football thing worked on. Peterson talked a little bit 134 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: about where he was at at forty one. 135 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 7: To credit right to him and what he does in 136 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 7: the off. 137 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 8: Season, what he does during the regular season. 138 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 7: How he takes care of himself, because this game can 139 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 7: you know, this game can can beat you down, you 140 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 7: know physically. You know, forty one. I was thirty six 141 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 7: when I shut it down, so I was I think 142 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 7: I was back with the Eagles. Yeah, as you mentioned, 143 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 7: it's quality control, and I was forty one, but you know, 144 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 7: in your mind, you still feel like you're twenty one. 145 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 7: And and I know that's probably maybe he's not, you know, 146 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 7: thinking twenty one, but he's he's definitely. And one of 147 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 7: the things I've always appreciated about Aaron is just the 148 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 7: way he approaches the game, you know, and the fun 149 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 7: that he he has, and you know, the excitement you 150 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 7: see around him and Brian. 151 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: The team's coming in there at three and ten. Obviously 152 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: they've had an underwhelming season as well, Aaron Rodgers coming 153 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: off that Achilles injury, so he hasn't looked quite like 154 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: he has a whole, But it's dangerous to count him out, 155 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: especially with the ability and the football smarts that he has. 156 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: It is, and you know, I went back looking. 157 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers has really never been in this position in 158 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: his career this late in the season to be so 159 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 5: far out of it in just playing out the string. 160 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 5: He's used to playing in highly competitive, meaningful games after Thanksgiving. 161 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 5: So these are all things to watch. I would say 162 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 5: the best way to counter Aaron Rodgers, who's forty one, 163 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 5: is for him to feel forty one, as in Josh 164 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: heinz Allen who's chasing the franchise all time sack record, 165 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 5: So he's hyper motivated. If you're going to win, if 166 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 5: you're going to by the way, listen, the Jaguars are 167 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 5: not scoring a lot of points ten point seven to 168 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 5: five points since Trevor Lawrence left the starting lineup for 169 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 5: the Vikings game. You're not gonna beat these guys that way. 170 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 5: You're gonna have to send Josh heinz Allen and he's 171 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 5: gonna have to be a game wrecker and make forty 172 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 5: one feel that way for Aaron Rodgers. 173 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Aaron Rodgers is still dangerous. I don't 174 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 6: know that he has as ide was saying the escapability 175 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 6: that he used to have. But he can still put 176 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 6: the ball in the right place. He's playing better the 177 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 6: last few games after really being beat up for three 178 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 6: or four games early in the season. So look, the 179 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 6: Jets can score. They scored the last week. They put 180 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 6: up Aaron three for three hundred yards for the first time. 181 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 6: So I think I think twenty two Jerry Damons had 182 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 6: to play well to beat him, and I expect him 183 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 6: to go out and motivate it. Meaning, I don't know 184 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 6: if these are the last games of Aaron Rodgers' career. 185 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 6: I don't think they have to be, if he can 186 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 6: find the right team next year. 187 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: All right, stay with us here, we'll talk a little 188 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: bit more about that Jets game coming up to see it. 189 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Zanbronte By Fields Auto Grouping and Seafields 190 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: First Jackson Golls Premier Luxury Auto Group head over two 191 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: Fields Auto dot Com. It is Jets Week, It's throwback week. 192 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: Lots of good things coming up. Obviously, the Jets aren't 193 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: dealing with a similar situation to the Jaguars three and 194 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: ten coming into this game. A little bit of similarity 195 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: there as they try to figure out what they're doing 196 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: the rest of the year and figure out what they 197 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: have going forward. 198 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 6: But it's gonna be tough. 199 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: I think theirs is more complicated. Now. 200 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 5: Listen, some might argue it's simpler because they've already fired 201 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 5: their coach. They've fired their coach in October, and their 202 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 5: general manager they let go in November. So they went 203 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 5: and fought in Miami. And you might have said, well that, 204 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 5: I mean, they don't have a whole forty one year 205 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 5: old quarterback Achilles. They're an interesting group because they've got 206 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 5: some young talent and the old quarterback and they thought 207 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 5: they had the magic concoction to compete for a championship 208 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 5: this year and it fell apart. 209 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 6: Well, they're very talented and late in the season sometimes 210 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 6: you play a team it's quit or that you look 211 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 6: at and sayhere their quarterbacks out, how are they gonna 212 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 6: make plays? They have plenty of guys who can make plays. 213 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 6: They have sauce guard in your on defense. They have 214 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers, they have DeVante Adams. 215 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: That you. 216 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 6: So sometimes late in the season you think, Okay, well, 217 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 6: there's no way this team, if we play this level, 218 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 6: is the way this team can beat us. The Jets 219 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 6: absolutely have the talent, the playmakers. The question is do 220 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 6: they have the drive? 221 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but with both. 222 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 6: Teams out of it, frankly, you have to ask a 223 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 6: question about both teams. 224 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: Let's look at the defense. Mac Jones talked a little bit. 225 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: He's very familiar with the Jets defense playing in the AFCAS. 226 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: He said it's the best defense he's ever played against. 227 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope. So it's definitely the NFL's top defense 228 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: in my opinion. You know, over my career so far, 229 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: they're the best defense I've gone against each year, not 230 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: only players, but scheme and coaching. Obviously, they're familiar with me, 231 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: and I have some former teammates over there, and you know, 232 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: guys I've played against six five six times, So definitely 233 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: looking forward to it. They've done a good job this year. 234 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 2: I know, the records the same, but really their defenses 235 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: is one of a kind, and I got a lot 236 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: of respect for those guys over there. 237 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 6: John. 238 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: This defense hasn't been necessarily what it's been in the 239 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: past when Robert Sahal has been there. But they still 240 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: have a ton of playmakers and they still have they 241 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: are still up in the ranks there as one of 242 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: the best defenses in the league. 243 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, the thing that concerns you the Jets are are 244 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 6: really good in terms of yards. They have been great 245 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 6: in terms of points, but sometimes that cannot really reflect 246 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 6: if your offense to give us some points, if only 247 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 6: they only have two interceptions. And Mac has shown us 248 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 6: he can fix that. So I'm what I'm saying there 249 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 6: is he needs to not fix that obviously. 250 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 7: Uh. 251 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 6: He's thrown the ball up in some in some in 252 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 6: some rough situations so far. To me, that's the key 253 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 6: from ACT this week. This team is not a great 254 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 6: turnover team. Don't let them become one. Don't give them 255 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 6: opportunities here at every Bank Stadium. Uh, and get the 256 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 6: ball to. 257 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 5: Betj And I mean Quinn Williams is one of the 258 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 5: better defensive tackles in the league. Last week, the Jaguars 259 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 5: did a really nice job against Jeffrey Simmons. This guy 260 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 5: is a really he's a game wrecker in the middle 261 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 5: in terms of running the ball, and the Jaguars kai 262 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 5: desperately need to run the ball. To help Mac Jones, 263 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 5: they have got to give him some symbols of balance, 264 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 5: and I think the way that you do that is 265 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 5: give it to Tank Bigsby. Could we stop with giving 266 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 5: the bowl to Travis Etn and expecting him to run 267 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 5: between the tackles. I just that doesn't work. Give it 268 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 5: to Tank. He is clearly RB one on this team. 269 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: When you have the express desire to run between the tackles, 270 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 5: give it to Tank. 271 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: Give it to him. 272 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 5: Consistently soften up that Jets defense and make it easier 273 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 5: on Mac Jones, and then figure out a different way 274 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 5: to include Etn his explosiveness, his playmaking skill. 275 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: It's better on the edge. 276 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 5: It's better in a cutback on a stretch kind of 277 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 5: play than between the tackles. 278 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: That's Tank. 279 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: Let's talk the other side of the football. We saw 280 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: the defense play one of their best games of the 281 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: year last year against an offense that's not so good, 282 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: so this week will be a completely different challenge. We 283 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: saw them play pretty well against I want to compare them. Obviously, 284 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams one of the best wide receivers in the league, 285 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: but they played well against the likes of Justin Jefferson 286 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: when they took on Minnesota. Can they translate Brian something 287 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: like that over to taking on Devonte par Adams. 288 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 5: I think that Tyson Campbell is capable of playing a 289 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 5: big game. You know, he did a few weeks ago 290 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 5: against Justin Jefferson, as you mentioned, and this is is 291 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 5: that kind of a challenge for him. So if he 292 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 5: has a good game, then you you can do some 293 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 5: different things. With Garrett Wilson on the other side, who 294 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 5: is a tremendous player. I mean, just as soon as 295 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: you put all your focus over on Davante, here comes 296 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 5: this guy and he's got deep speed and playmaking ability too, 297 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 5: and that makes the quarterback so much more dangerous. 298 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: Can they Yes? Will they? 299 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's been the key, John. I mean 300 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 5: they haven't done it very consistently in the secondary. They 301 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 5: haven't done anything consistently in the secondary this year. 302 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the key will be the same as 303 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 6: it was last week. Not nice job last week. Is 304 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 6: that I'm trying to say of keeping them at the enzone. 305 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 6: But had they not come up big and side the 306 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 6: ten twice, that game looks a lot different. The thing 307 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 6: that concerns you is when Aaron Rodgers gets into the 308 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 6: red zone. If they allow long drive this week, he 309 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 6: can finish much better than Will Levis. So I think 310 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 6: it's gonna be a situational game. And that's what's scari 311 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 6: You're playing Aaron Rodgers and those two receivers. They have 312 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 6: the tools. If they are at the two and throw 313 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 6: three times into the end zone like the Titans did, 314 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 6: they're probably gonna get one. So I think it's imperative 315 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 6: the Jaguar stopped the run better than they did last 316 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 6: week early and not give the Jets the same opportunities 317 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 6: that the Titans can't take advantage of it. 318 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 5: This is gonna sound annoyingly redundant to people watching, but 319 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 5: you just said it. They've got to find a way 320 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 5: to do something early on offense. 321 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 4: I mean it is. 322 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: They should start fast. 323 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 5: Fast, I don't care whether it's a ten minute slow 324 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 5: drive right, get some points early, do something. They had 325 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 5: the one touchdown in the first quarter against the Vikings, 326 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 5: but they've done nothing early on to even give their 327 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 5: defense something they can play with. They have got to 328 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 5: do something something on offense early in this game because 329 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 5: you're not gonna beat Aaron Rode even a three and 330 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 5: ten Aaron Rodgers. You're not gonna beat him scoring ten points. 331 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 5: That's not happening. 332 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: We're begging please please start early, please, thank you. All Right, 333 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to you and tell you what our 334 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: predictions are for the headlines for Monday after Sunday came 335 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: jag Zam, brought to you by Stuttith Flores, trusted and 336 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: reliable moving company Studeth, proud to be the official moving 337 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: company of the Jacksonville Jaguars. To get a guaranteed quote, 338 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: visit Sutteth dot com slash Jacks Welcome back into Jackzam. 339 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna do our best at playing predictor as to 340 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: what the headlines are gonna be on Monday after this 341 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: showdown with the Jets on Sunday afternoon, Brian, what are 342 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: you thinking for? Well? 343 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 5: The Eternal Optimist ANDEE offers this December double. The Jaguars 344 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 5: have not won back to back games since they beat 345 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 5: the Titans here and then went to Houston last November. 346 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 4: But you know, I just I sense an energy level. 347 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, when you've lost as much as they 348 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 5: had lost, anything is going to seem more energetic than 349 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 5: what we had experienced in that locker room put even 350 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 5: veteran guys. I was over in a corner yesterday with 351 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 5: Eric Armstead and Brandon Sheriff's there. Those are two salty 352 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 5: old vets, you know, I mean even they you know 353 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 5: we're a little more talkative. So I realized it's dangerous 354 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: to predict this because Aaron Rodgers is going against a 355 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 5: team that has given up more explosive than anyone else 356 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: in the league this year and the most in team history. 357 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 5: But I just have a sense that maybe this energy 358 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 5: level and a young team that sees opportunity will take it. 359 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 5: So December double to get back to back wins. 360 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I went the same direction. I went with winning Street. 361 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: Two optimists, look at you. 362 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 6: I had to pick something. This is our jobs. I 363 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 6: had a choice between a win and a loss. It's 364 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 6: two ten teams. We've seen enough this year that I 365 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 6: went with winning Stree. There's a lot of reasons that 366 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 6: the Jets have edges because I think their skill guys 367 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 6: are better, because they're healthier. Meaning if Christian Kirk's playing 368 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 6: this game, I feel differently, He's not Aaron Rodgers over 369 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 6: Mac Jones, even though Max five and zero against this team. 370 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 6: But late in the season, things get weird. Neither team 371 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 6: has like on paper motivation, so playing at home and 372 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 6: it feels like last week this team hadn't quit, so 373 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 6: I'll give them the edge in that respect. 374 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: Let's get weird. 375 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: I like that. 376 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 5: It's a line from a movie, isn't it, Bill Murray? 377 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 6: It never got weird enough for me. That's a Bill 378 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 6: Murray line, not my life. 379 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: My prediction is not as optimistic as everybody else. It 380 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: makes me a big play day, unfortunately for the Jets 381 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: because of the talents of the habit Why receiver Aaron 382 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Rodgers is so smart. He's played twitch a long time. 383 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: I know he can't scramble as much, but he can 384 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 1: pick apart of defense when he needs to, and that 385 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: has been one of many achilles heels for our team 386 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: this season. So I would love to be wrong. I 387 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: would love things to be one of those weird December 388 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: games where both teams are kind of doing whatever they're doing. 389 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: I would love to be wrong too, Jaguars get a win, 390 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: but I am concerned about the big play on Sunday fair. 391 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: I think it's fair, Yeah, hopefully wrong, but I think 392 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: it's very wrong. Say with us, we're gonna talk a 393 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: little bit more about what's coming up the rest of 394 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: the week before kickoff on Sunday. Jags fans, if you 395 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: want customize Jaguars furniture for your home, check out zipcare 396 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: dot com to browse all the customersable options. 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Honestly, they cause problems everywhere. 405 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 8: So we're gonna have to come prepared to be physical, 406 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 8: to be explosive, and to have great finish all game 407 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 8: to be successful against him. 408 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: Ivan Ingram talking about the Jets defense, I have an 409 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: Ingram battling through a shoulder injury that he had during 410 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: the Titan game. Hasn't practiced fully, So we'll see as 411 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: the week goes on what that's gonna look like. 412 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 5: You know, he's one of those guys you need him 413 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 5: because you're gonna need somebody other than Brian Thomas Junior 414 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 5: for the defense to have to focus on. 415 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: So hopefully his shoulder allows. 416 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 5: Him to play on Sunday, and you just kind of 417 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 5: get the feeling that he's due for one of those 418 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 5: you know, nine or ten catch games. 419 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, eighty yards in a touchdown. 420 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 6: I kind of hope he didn't have that many. The 421 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 6: offense sometimes doesn't function that well when they're throwing short 422 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 6: passes to him, but I would love to see him 423 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 6: have some twenty yard passes where he breaks the defense 424 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 6: a little bit and has the big game. It sounded 425 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 6: this week from when Doug was talking like he'll boy, 426 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 6: so we'll see. 427 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: All right, it's gonna be another throwback game. It's our 428 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: second throwback game of the year. Hopefully, Brian, you can 429 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: talk to someone, pull some strings and make them permanent. 430 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 5: If you knew how many people have come up to 431 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 5: me at Christmas party so far this holiday season to 432 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 5: talk about the Prowler jerseys and how much they love 433 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 5: having them back. I think the Jaguars have an opportunity 434 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 5: in the next couple of years to tweak the uniform. 435 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: I would vote for that. 436 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: Coming back as an unbiased observer, they are markedly better. 437 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 4: I don't know why. 438 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 6: Some combination that would be really cool, And we'll see. 439 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: We shall all right enjoy the game whether it should 440 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: be good. We will be back on Monday to recap 441 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: everything for you