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Speaker 2: All roads lead to today, the start of the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four NFL Draft. We got you covered today, Vikings fans,

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Speaker 2: Pete versus Ron Johnson and I break down just what

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Speaker 2: the two selections on Night one means for the future

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Speaker 2: of the Purple. That's right, JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner

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Speaker 2: are the newest members of the Purple and Gold, and

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Speaker 2: we break down just what that means today right here

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Speaker 2: on the Minnesota Vikings podcast.

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Speaker 3: Tune in.

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Speaker 2: Well Night one of the NFL Draft that's just concluded

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Speaker 2: in The Vikings have made two selections with their two

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Speaker 2: picks into Night's draft, and the first election with the

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Speaker 2: tenth overall pick, was JJ McCarthy, quarterback out of the

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Speaker 2: University of Michigan, a guy that a lot of experts

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Speaker 2: and a lot of fans had mocked to the Vikings

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Speaker 2: at the eleventh overall pick. A lot of people didn't

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Speaker 2: expect him to fall that far, but he fell to eleven. Well,

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Speaker 2: he fell to ten with the Vikings trading up with

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Speaker 2: the Jets to acquire him. We'll be going to the

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Speaker 2: seventeenth overall selection. The Minnesota Vikings selected Dallas Turner, edge

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Speaker 2: rusher who will be labeled as an outside linebacker here

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Speaker 4: He raised havoc good. Yeah, he was really good. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we concentrate much on Dallas Turner because we had our

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Speaker 4: you're gonna get JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner, if he

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Speaker 4: told me that four hours ago, would have been number one. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: let's go. But I would have thought that it was

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Speaker 4: that's the complete opposite of what happened when you had

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Speaker 4: six quarterbacks taken in the first twelve picks, so the

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Speaker 4: the first fourteen were all offensive players. I believe it

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Speaker 4: Detroit Lions. This was as one sided of an offensive

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Speaker 2: Let me give fans a precursor. If you don't know

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Speaker 2: the voice that you just listened to, that is Pete Bursus,

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Speaker 2: who is the Vikings radio analyst for the Vikings Radio network.

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Speaker 2: And Ron Johnson is also here from Fox nine Vikings

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Speaker 2: Game Day Live. And Ron, just your initial reactions when

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Speaker 2: you hear the Vikings selections and just the reaction that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with Pete on that one.

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Speaker 5: Like I didn't expect him to be able to get

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Speaker 3: But the draft is a funny thing and.

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Speaker 5: That's why we sign up every year to do it,

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Speaker 5: because you never know what these gms are gonna do.

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Speaker 5: And the first ridiculous puzzle piece was the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 5: And I think once the Atlanta Falcons took Pennix, everybody

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Speaker 5: and honestly, it felt like the Eagles taking Jalen Riger

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Speaker 4: No, there's no question that's and that's where you get them.

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Speaker 4: Now you have three guys between ban Genko, Grenard and

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Speaker 4: That's what's that's what's so exciting about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, when I watch some of the highlights

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Speaker 5: like you said, he has that ability. And but I

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Speaker 5: think the cool thing about the way the Vikings win

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at fifteen you.

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Speaker 5: Had a lot to come off, and you have Bier

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Speaker 4: Right, and Chop I mean, Chopp is a is a

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Speaker 5: And Turner reminds me of Terrell Suggs when you look

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Speaker 4: And I love what Quazy said in our interview, and

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Speaker 3: For four to six.

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Speaker 5: Thugs ran four to seven and Billick still went after him.

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Speaker 5: So I think Dallas Turner, he gives you that upside

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Speaker 5: if he can be I'm not saying he's a future

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Speaker 3: He could do it.

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Speaker 4: But you know, we we've played this game, been around

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Speaker 4: you know, find a corner and I think other than that,

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00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 4: you're you're you're pretty pretty well set. So there aren't

437
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,159
Speaker 4: a lot of holes right now to fill, right, I

438
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 4: mean you filled them. You filled a lot of the

439
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 4: holes in free agency, and you know again next year,

440
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 4: you know, cap wise, we're gonna be in good shape.

441
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 4: I bet QUESTI right now is already thinking about JJ

442
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 4: and what he's gonna have to do to keep him

443
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 4: around and correct.

444
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 3: But name your next kid, Jr.

445
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 5: Whatever you gotta do, name him justin middle name Jefferson,

446
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 5: justin jeff.

447
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 4: Like j JJ.

448
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 5: So the one thing I would say is, Pete, you

449
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 5: hit the nail on the head with the interior. I

450
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 5: keep going back to and only reasons because like seeing

451
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,199
Speaker 5: Everson today, talking to him a little bit before, and

452
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 5: like I think back to the Kevin Williams, you know

453
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 5: guys like that.

454
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the again the interior defensive line. Again. We

455
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 4: brought in Sheldon Day last year and he gave us

456
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 4: a lot of good snaps.

457
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 3: Had a second a half right last few games.

458
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 4: If you're again, if you're a defensive lineman, man, this

459
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 4: is the place to be.

460
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 3: This is the place to be.

461
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 5: These guys probably won't be there, but Defandre Sweat Jersean Newton.

462
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 3: They're still there.

463
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,959
Speaker 5: Brandon Fist Bredon Fist, Sorry, but I like to know

464
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 5: Brandon fisk Is.

465
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: I like that kid too.

466
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 5: It's Jinkin from Michigan. Could possibly be there in the

467
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 5: third rest. If they could jump up. Yeah, he came

468
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 5: out with me, if they could jump up, if they

469
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 5: can jump up and say, hey, take our twenty twenty

470
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 5: five third round pick, can we get yours right now?

471
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 5: Go get a guy like Chris Jenkins again, another big

472
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 5: ten guy. He already has a connection with JJ in

473
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 5: the locker room. And another pro ready guy, a pedigree

474
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 5: guy that his dad played in the league's was you know,

475
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 5: he knows the game and is a kid that in

476
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 5: any other draft maybe probably is for sure second round.

477
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

478
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 5: I mean Tovandre Sweat, he's a first you know, he

479
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 5: was supposed to be a first round guy. So this

480
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 5: is one of those drafts where, again I go back

481
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 5: to the Falcons. I think that was the first Domino

482
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 5: where people were like, what the heck just happened? And

483
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 5: now so many offensive guys and there was a run

484
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 5: on defensive guys, and then it ended off with Ricky

485
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 5: Purcell going to San Francisco which means Branda Ayuk is

486
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 5: most likely gone, and then another receiver in the end

487
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 5: of the Panthers, which you know, trying to help out

488
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 5: Bryce Young. But for the Vikings, you gotta find a

489
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 5: corner and I would say, you got to find a

490
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 5: d tackle.

491
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 3: That's what I would do in the late rounds.

492
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 4: The other thing I think with this draft too, is

493
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 4: with you had a combination of COVID and NIL. Yeah,

494
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 4: and I've read and talked to some people who I trust,

495
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 4: and then they're saying, yeah, there's about one hundred and

496
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 4: fifty guys, and that about one hundred and fifty to

497
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy five draft eligible guys that were

498
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 4: graded to be draft eligible stayed in college. So yeah,

499
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 4: this year there was a it was just a plethora

500
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 4: of good quarterbacks. But NIL is keeping a lot of

501
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 4: these day two, day three guys that maybe are just

502
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 4: young and want to you know, want to start making

503
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 4: some money and keeping them in college. So you know,

504
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 4: you may have to My point is you may have

505
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 4: to jump up to get to get But then we

506
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 4: have we got Ivan paced last year. I mean, how

507
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 4: about that, right, I don't care, you know, draft whatever,

508
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 4: but you bringing a guy like him as a free

509
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 4: agent and he starts for you and contributes and plays well.

510
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's unbelievable. So yeah, there's still a

511
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of possibility and some exciting, you know,

512
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 4: exciting talent that could still be brought on, brought on

513
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 4: and added to this team.

514
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: Exciting talent. For sure. We will get you guys out

515
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 3: of here with this.

516
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: I know you guys don't like talking grades, but we

517
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 2: got to give some grades when it comes to starting

518
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: to figure out how this first round shakes out.

519
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: So when you look at J. J. McCarthy and Dallas Turner.

520
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: J J.

521
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: McCarthy the fifth overall quarterback selected in this year's draft,

522
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: Dallas Turner, the second overall edge rusher selected in this

523
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: year's draft, how would you grade the Vikings with those

524
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: two picks tonight?

525
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 4: In a absolutely in a just because you've got McCarthy

526
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 4: who may not have been in the top three as

527
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 4: far as you know quarterback grades go, but you're looking

528
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 4: at three maybe four in a year where you had

529
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 4: potentially had six first rounders, and then to get the

530
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 4: number one edge rusher, I mean, that's that's Jacksonville. For

531
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 4: how long the number one pick in the draft Jacksonville,

532
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: take the you know, take the edge rusher from Alabama

533
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 4: in a way, and to get that person at seventeen,

534
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 4: oh my, you know, I I would absolutely, you know,

535
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 4: there's no points for winning the draft. And I hate

536
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 4: that part about the whole thing. And you know what,

537
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 4: the people what they say the day after, the weeks after,

538
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 4: it's it's like it doesn't matter. But the potential of

539
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 4: the two gentlemen that we brought in and to this franchise,

540
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 4: you know, wow, and this this you could look back

541
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 4: on a night like tonight and say four years from

542
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 4: now and say this is where it started. So not

543
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: what Quazy did two years ago, not really what he

544
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 4: did last year. And yeah, I think I think you

545
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 4: have to give this team an A.

546
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: I love it. Ron. I'd say a for the players.

547
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 5: I say a plus for the fact that he stayed

548
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 5: at like eleven ten.

549
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: And to your point, yeah, that was that was the

550
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 4: one thing I was worried about coming in here is

551
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 4: that in a league like this, when you are desperate,

552
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: you are going to pay, right, you are gonna pay.

553
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 4: And we were able to just move up one spot

554
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: to get you know, six later to get the best.

555
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 4: You know, come on, people.

556
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: Were saying to get j J. McCarthy.

557
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 5: They thought it was going to be two or three

558
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 5: first rounders to get JJ McCarthy.

559
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 4: If that had yeah, you're ready to think about that.

560
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 4: If we hadn't given up three first rounders to get

561
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 4: JJ at number three, let's say or whatever, we don't

562
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 4: get Dallas Turner right, obviously known that, but you gave

563
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 4: away three first round you know it's people would have

564
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: been okay with it.

565
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would have been okay with it.

566
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 5: But now you can and then to get that. Yeah,

567
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 5: but now you play chicken and you won. You let

568
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 5: the Patriots play there. They're like, okay, if you want them,

569
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 5: go draft them, because I'm pretty sure and they did.

570
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell said, if they want JJ, I want Drake,

571
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like he was going to

572
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 5: play that game. Now, who's to say the Falcons when

573
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 5: it took Drake may you know what I mean?

574
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: Like that? Yeah, that would have been weird. This is

575
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: this is going to be an interesting draft.

576
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean it's only Night one and we're talking this

577
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: much about the upcoming Vikings, this upcoming season, and I'm

578
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: just looking forward to what Night two of Night three

579
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: looks forward to. But guys, Pete ron always the pleasure

580
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: of having you guys on. It is going to be

581
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: a fun season. I know we get a chance to

582
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: hear and talk to you guys leading up until Week one.

583
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: But Pete, I'm excited.

584
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, this has been This is probably the most important

585
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: draft for this franchise in thirty years maybe more. Yeah, right,

586
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 4: a very unique situation with the six quarterbacks. You know,

587
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 4: everyone's excited the combine, everybody went nutty and free agency,

588
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: and then you know, you come into this going out

589
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 4: you know, we didn't we need a quarterback here. We're

590
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 4: kind of desperate. And then to be able to walk

591
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 4: out with you know, with two first rounders, those two

592
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 4: first rights, right, it wasn't like, you know, you got

593
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 4: a Cooper Didge. You know, Cooper Didge, the gene who

594
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: who I love as a player. But it's not like

595
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: you traded up or you picked him at twenty two,

596
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 4: or you know, you reach for somebody that maybe would

597
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 4: have been available at the beginning of the second round.

598
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 4: I mean, you got two guys that were top fifteen

599
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 4: all day.

600
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and even like the NFL dot me they had

601
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy on their head screen, so their screensaver was Caleb,

602
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: Jayden Daniels and JJ. So even for NFL dot com like,

603
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 5: which is basically the NFL network, they were all saying

604
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy is the third best quarterback. But of course

605
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 5: they're going off of the rumors they're hearing from the Patriots, right,

606
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: you know. So again it was I just feel like

607
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 5: the Vikings played their hand the right way. And that's

608
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 5: why I got to give an eighty pluster playing his

609
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 5: hand and not because Gabe mentioned it too. When you

610
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 5: watch that video that we all could see in the

611
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 5: war room, they all kind of had that like sitting

612
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 5: on their hands, like you know, I don't know what

613
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 5: we're gonna do. The minute they took Pinnix, the whole room.

614
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: Was like, oh, it's about to happen.

615
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 4: Game on, like we got.

616
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 5: This because they knew like nine is the Bears, ten

617
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 5: is where we need to go Jets, And so you

618
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 5: could see Quaycy I told Gabe, I said, Quaycy.

619
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: Had that like he's talking to his girlfriend late at night.

620
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 5: He had the arm up on the chair, he had

621
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 5: the phone like turned sideways. He was super relaxed, and

622
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell got up. You know his shirt, he had

623
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 5: the collar over the top of the jacket like John Travolta.

624
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 5: Like their whole vibe the minute they took Pinnix, their

625
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 5: whole vibe was like we got them. And again it

626
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 5: felt like I felt like I was in the time warp.

627
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 5: I felt like that same video of Mike Zimmer and

628
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 5: what's his name Filman when the Eagles took Jalen Rager

629
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 5: all right, wait what and you can see Zi Spilman

630
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 5: is like wait did they just and then Curd right

631
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 5: and he's like, go get our.

632
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: Game, run, run to the podium.

633
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 5: It felt like it felt like I say, the minute

634
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 5: that happened, Quacy knew and Gabe was saying, how you know.

635
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 5: He talked to one of the inside guys and they

636
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 5: were saying they went through so many different scenarios, scenarios

637
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 5: and this was the most they had been through. That

638
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 5: scenario was Hey, if this happens and he's there at nine,

639
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 5: we got to go to the jets and get them

640
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 5: because we can't let the Raiders or whoever.

641
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: Else come up and get them. I will say this

642
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: to close it or the Broncos. Yeah, yeah, right. I mean,

643
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: I know the Raiders were a team that were looking

644
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: for a quarterback. Also, I mean, so many things that

645
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: could have happened tonight. But Vikings fans, we got our

646
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: guys and just from understanding the conversations, some conversations that

647
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 2: were happening inside of the building. When it comes to

648
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: these two selections, I will say they were both high

649
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: on the Vikings we got to have.

650
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: Oh you'll say that now. You didn't say four hours ago.

651
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: I couldn't say. I wanted to so bad but whatever

652
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: I had said.

653
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: But well, the thing I will say his Vikings fans,

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