1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: this Monday edition, it is a black and drag edition 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: of the show. We're going to talk about the NBA 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: All Star Weekend. I mean, the NBA is out there 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: trying to do whatever they can to make the thing interesting, 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: but there's one small issue with the game, with the 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: event and the weekend. It's the same thing that if 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: we're being honest, the NFL goes through with the Pro Bowl. 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: So we will discuss all that. 11 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: We're also going to have a discussion about what the 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: plan is when it comes to the Jaguars and Travis Hunter. 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: We have an update, a development, if you will, on 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: what next year could look like. We're also going to 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: talk about the NFL versus NFLPA. The Owners win again, 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: even though it was very petty as to what they 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: won for. We're also going to have this discussion about 18 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, who celebrated NBA All Star Weekend by winning 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: the Daytona five hundred. Derek Carr wants back in, but 20 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: he needs a couple of things to be guaranteed in 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: order for him to do so. And we're going to 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: have another edition of in case you missed it, We've 23 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: got our F S R I R. We're talking pot pies, 24 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: raccoons with thumbs, all the usual fun stuff and the leftovers. 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: It's yours next here, Two Pros and a Cup of 26 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Joe on a Monday Fox Sports Radio. 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: Good morning, sir, How you doing? Come on bar? What 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: you mean you got to singing? 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: Huh you gotta sing it? 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: Come on hold then I'll go mount tomorrow. 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: It is two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 32 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio Black and Drag Edition. Uh, no, brain, 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: It'll be uh LaVar Arrington and I taking you all 34 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: the way up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. 35 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: If you were listening live, we appreciate you doing so. 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: If you're listening on the podcast, we appreciate you doing 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: so as well. And this three hour extravaganza you can 38 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: hear on the iHeartRadio app and on hundreds of affiliates 39 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: here as we were off and running on this Monday morning. 40 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: How we feel? 41 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 3: Sticks? What up? 42 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 4: Sticks? 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: It was good? How was your How was your Valentine's. 44 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: I Got Stories? 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: I guess segment. 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we've got the FSRI, I R coming up. 47 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: Oh you put it on I this way. 48 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: I was at a a baptismal party. 49 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: For the in law Valentine's Day. 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they had it on Valentine's Day, and so 51 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: it was I don't know what was being said by 52 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: everyone was having a good time. 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: Man. Christian folks are the biggest freaks. Man, that's that's 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: so crazy. Like they sitting there doing all the valid 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: that thing. 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: They wanted to do. 57 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: Man, gives a button what they wanted to do, and 58 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: and they were tell you something. But they were going 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: hard alright, alright. 60 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: They were going hard where they're going hard and pain 61 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: the tequila. 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they were ripping it, yeah, big time. 63 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: So I enjoy that and I'm glad. I'm happy that 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: they enjoyed the tequila. You know they said that, Uh 65 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: Jesus when he turned the water in the wine, he said, uh, 66 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: I don't usually do this, but uh let's keep the 67 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: party going on. That's what he said, kidding. 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Well yeah, so that's that's what we were doing. 69 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: How was your Valentine's Day? 70 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: What did you It was good? Man? Went to the ChartHouse. 71 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: It was good over Malibu. Nah, there's one over here. 72 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna sit in the ChartHouse in Malibu. I 73 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: don't know if that might have. Did it burned out, 74 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: might have I forget which you know it might have. 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Of which ones are no longer with us, they're on the. 76 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: Coastline, but that one happens to still be with us. 77 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: So well there you go. 78 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, listen, I hope everybody else had a great 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, and you know what, if you didn't, it's 80 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: overrated anyways, all right, nothing wrong, Listen. My move is 81 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: I never get my wife anything on Valentine's Day because 82 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: I think the holiday is just garbage. So what I 83 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: do is I just get her something the day before, 84 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: so that way I don't have to fall in line 85 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: with the. 86 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 2: Rest of the craft the people are doing. 87 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: Also, I absolutely refuse to buy her roses on Valentine's Day. 88 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: I get her flowers every Friday, just standard operating procedure 89 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: in the household. You go to a store on Valentine's Day, 90 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: it's jacked of at least ten dollars for a dozen roses. 91 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: Not happening, no shot, So no flys on Valentine's Day. 92 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: That's the way we were not. Yeah, but well there. 93 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: Was a comeback for that one too, but I'm gonna 94 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: leave that one alone. Like, why do you why do 95 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: you have to go to a shop to get flowers? 96 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I just pulled them out of the back 97 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: of the truck. You're right, I didn't even think about that. 98 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, just something to think about, 99 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: you know, like it just sucked that he. 100 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: Ramone. 101 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: I got you, man, I got you. Oh now that 102 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: being said, Okay, the NBA All Star Game, Yep, it happened. 103 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: It did it did happen now from my understanding. The 104 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: team names. There were three team names in the All 105 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: Star Game, but there was uh yeah, there was an 106 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: All Star Game. Uh the different team names, I mean 107 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: they've got you know, these are like stars stripes. Team 108 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: World I believe was the other one. I mean they 109 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: just sound like, you know, ice cream flavors. Like it 110 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: just it's weird. But again, they did it. They had 111 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: the All Star Game in Los Angeles. Everybody was fired up. 112 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards was your All Star Game MVP, and he 113 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: spoke afterwards about the honor. 114 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 5: And I know you want to be not just one 115 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 5: of the best, you want to be the best. How 116 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 5: is this trophy a step towards that, right, It's a 117 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 5: step in the right direction. 118 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 3: That's how that is. We chose to compete today and 119 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: we came out on top. 120 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 5: You talk about choosing to compete, what do you like 121 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: most about environments like this? Talking a little trash and 122 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 5: going up against the legends of the game. 123 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: Ain't gonna lie Wenby said the tone. He came out 124 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: playing hard, and you know we had to follow that 125 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: and we had to pick it up as a red 126 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: team and we did that. U C. K D and 127 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: Lebron Garden. You why do you want that match up? Yeah? 128 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: For sure. I want to cook them every time. You 129 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: know that. Thanks An. 130 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: So there was Anthony Edwards, your All Star Game MVP, 131 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: and I know that people. You know, we can spend 132 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: time on you know, what's wrong with the All Star Game, 133 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: which we will, but ultimately it doesn't really matter. It's 134 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: an exhibition, like these are exhibitions and it doesn't really matter, 135 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: and it doesn't really have an impact on the season. 136 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: It just kind of is what it is at this point. 137 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, if you want to talk 138 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: about the dunk contest all that stuff, But I was 139 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: thinking about this when it comes to All Star games 140 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: in general, outside of Major League Baseball, which is the 141 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: only one that's actually decent because it actually you can 142 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: closely resemble in what a real Major League Baseball game 143 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: looks like and you're not really putting anybody at the 144 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: risk of injury and and all the other things that 145 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: could come along with it. 146 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: But I look at it. We'd talked about the Pro 147 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: Bowl whatever the hell you called that. 148 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: Event that they had in San Francisco during Super Bowl Week, 149 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: which we discussed when we were out there, which was 150 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: just awful. 151 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: The whole thing was awful. 152 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: But like when it comes to the Pro Bowl, when 153 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: it comes to the NBA All Star Game, have you 154 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: noticed that it's gotten worse over the years, Like, just 155 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: like it's gotten worse and worse and worse. And I 156 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: was thinking about it yesterday and I'm like, you know, 157 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the format. I don't think it's 158 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: the new twists and turns. Honestly, no, I swear to God, 159 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: I think it's the players. I swear, I swear to God, 160 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: I think it's I look at it and I go, 161 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: it's there. There's a there's a common denominator here and 162 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, whatever the regular season gives them, 163 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: whether it's financial, whether like whatever you want to call it, 164 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: that's their motivation, is what it is. But when we 165 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: talk about back in the day when guys used to compete, 166 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards and we were making this point a couple 167 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: of years ago, he's a throwback. So when you when 168 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: you hear him talk just then postgame like like, yeah, 169 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to come out and compete. He's the perfect 170 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: guy for an All Star Game because he's going to 171 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: come out there and play. And I and I think 172 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: that there's less of that now, which is why these 173 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: All Star games in particular NFL NBA aren't what they 174 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: were before. 175 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: In the NFL, they took. 176 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: The Pro Bowl out of Hawaii. Couldn't stand it. I 177 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: don't like the fact that they did that. In the NBA, 178 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: I just think guys don't care about that competition in 179 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: the middle of the season like they did back in 180 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: the day. 181 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: I really don't. 182 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: I feel like where we're at now it's more of 183 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: a symptom of how culture and society is as a 184 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 3: whole anymore. It just seems like like education so crazy. 185 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: Education has actually opened up people's minds to seeing the 186 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: world differently. And I know that might sound like kind 187 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: of cryptic, but it's like we went through when we 188 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: were growing up. Information was not readily available, right, Like 189 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: when you got information, like you had to go to 190 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: the library, you had to know where to look, you 191 00:10:53,400 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: had to go through these big, thick, little chapter long tones, right. 192 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: And for what is worth, a lot of people did 193 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 4: not want to put that hard work into climbing and 194 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 4: combing through books to get information, let alone information about 195 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 4: other people. 196 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: Right. So in the day and age we live in now, 197 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: with all of this technology and all of this information 198 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: at your fingertips, not only are you able to apply 199 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: educational information to your daily life and living habits, but 200 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: you're also able to apply it to people. So people 201 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 3: know one another, people know what's going on all these 202 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: different publications that are are out here. You know, you 203 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: basically know who everybody is, what they're ranking, is, what 204 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: they're doing from the time they become somebody. But there's 205 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: also the element of I just don't think that the 206 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: dog mentality, I don't think it really exists anymore. I 207 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: don't I think that where things are now, where athletics 208 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: are now. I really think that people have become so 209 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: comfortable because they don't feel as I just feel like 210 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 3: they don't feel like there's as much there's not as 211 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: much on the line, Like I feel like people were 212 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: like literally playing for their lives back when, like back 213 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 3: before me, back during me. Like I told you one 214 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: time I asked a player, I said, are you willing 215 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: to die for this? Talking about playing on the field, 216 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: Are you willing to die for it? Dude said to me, die, 217 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 3: what do you mean? Die? Like literally like die for it? 218 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: And I knew something was changing. I knew times were changing. 219 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: And you know, here's another symptom, Jonas. We had wars 220 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: like and I don't want to say real wars, because 221 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: there's there's there's wars going on. There's battles going on 222 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 3: now in our world. But I think there were more 223 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: direct wars like you know the Middle East Ward, the 224 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 3: Desert Storm War, the you know Vietnam War, like you know, 225 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: the the Korean War, Like there were wars, you know, 226 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: the World War Two. There were wars. And I think 227 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: the mentality, much like how we have a bunch of 228 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: people that have obesity problems and different things like that. 229 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 3: I just think that those things were were it was different, 230 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: it was a different day, it was a different time. 231 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: Nobody's working, I mean people working mills now, but not 232 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: like they used to, not like the old days. It's 233 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 3: it's not it's just a very different it's a very 234 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: different mentality that these kids had these days. And some 235 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: might say it's it's a tad bit entitled. So there's 236 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: not there's not as much on the line, there's not 237 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: as much at stake when these guys are are competing. 238 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: I think that's really a real you know, I think 239 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: it's a real conclusion that it just doesn't it means 240 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: a lot. I just think that it just means a 241 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: lot in a different way. 242 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, there's no and who's to say if 243 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: players back then had the opportunities and had everything that 244 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: the players nowadays had, you know, would they take this 245 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: same approach that modern day players are taking. Maybe they would. 246 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean, who the hell knows. But I just look 247 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: at it. I go, they keep trying to tweak it. 248 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: They've got World versus US Stars, Strike, Spangled, Banner Team this, 249 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: and they've got all these different concoctions that they roll 250 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: out and all of them suck, they're not good. And 251 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: at a certain point, you know, like Kawhi Leonard made 252 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: the point this week and he's like, you know, I 253 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: just you know, he's kind of explaining, Yeah, we learned, 254 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, what happens if this and if you know 255 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: you're up to one and all these things. He goes, 256 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, you just go go back to east versus West, 257 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: which you could, and it would be easier that way, 258 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: and it would be easier for everybody to understand who 259 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: these teams are and what the hell is going on 260 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: and who's playing and who's on what side. But the 261 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: problem would still be there because I just look at 262 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: it and I go, what's the incentive for these guys 263 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: who you have to incentivize to play regular season games? Like, 264 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: what's the incentive for them to come out and play 265 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: an exhibition when you've got to incentivize them to play 266 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: games that actually matter. 267 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: I just think it's just it's just a very different 268 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: it's just a different world we live in. And I'm 269 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: around these young guys. I own some of these young guys. 270 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: You know, my my my sons, my both my sons, 271 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: my my my daughters. You know, I'm around them on 272 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: a very consistent basis their values. It's very difficult to 273 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: raise them in the same exact values without the same experiences. 274 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: And I think you're seeing the product of people that 275 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: you remember the saying the guy said, my grandfather walked 276 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: to work. My dad drove a Cadillac to work. My dad, 277 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: My my, my, What is it? My my dad? 278 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 6: Me? 279 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: I me, the dad. I drive a Mercedes Benz to work. 280 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: My son drives a Ferrari to work. His son will 281 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: walk to work. Right, Yeah, like hard times make tough people. 282 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: Tough people conquer hard times. But when you conquer the 283 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: hard times, you create easier times. And I believe we're 284 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: dealing with a generation of people that have come up 285 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 3: in the times that the harder times people have conquered, 286 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: and we had a bunch of soft people. And it's 287 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: hard to have the same experiences of walking to school, 288 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: walking to work, having to get up and do chores 289 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: and mow the lawn and clean the roof and clean 290 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 3: the gutters and clip the hedges and clean up the 291 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: house and get up and do all your duties during 292 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: the course of a day. It's just very different now. 293 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 3: It's a more entitled world. We live in and you're 294 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 3: seeing it not just in the NBA All Star Game, 295 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: You're seeing it in the Pro Bowl as well. You're 296 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 3: seeing it and how guys exchange jersey after the games 297 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 3: and how their buddy buddy before games and all this 298 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: other stuff. It's just it's just a very different time 299 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: in how people. So I don't think that is that 300 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 3: the players are not better, because the players are probably 301 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: more athletic, one hundred percent more athletic and more ahead, 302 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: more advanced than what we were as athletes and as players. 303 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: But their mentality. We would dog this generation, the Jordan generation, 304 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 3: the generation after that, the Kobe generation, the young Lebron 305 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 3: James generation. They would dog this generation of athlete because 306 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: there's only one Anthony Edwards. There's not enough, there's not 307 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: enough dogs in this generation of guys. And then it's 308 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 3: curious to see will the cycle repeat itself. Will will 309 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: this create hard times for the NBA? Will it create 310 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 3: hard times for the NFL? And will will there be 311 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 3: a shift back to now you're walking the work and 312 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: now it's hard times that you guys got to get through. 313 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: I doubt it, but it's interesting to see if history 314 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: because they do say history repeats itself. Well listen. 315 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: Hopefully they'll get it done. 316 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: Because for the ones who get it done, Granger offers 317 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: access to over a million products and the scale to 318 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: deliver when and where you need them. 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You ever seen that? 372 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: You ever seen that video of the old guy who 373 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: sits down real quick just to pop right backed up 374 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: because he said. 375 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't know snail trail. You don't want 376 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: you don't want to end up in the snail trail, 377 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: you know. I mean. But if you dragging on the 378 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: floor at some point in time, if you han't you know, 379 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: sack issues like that, that means you was a bad 380 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: man at some point in your life. Man, probably I 381 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: mean speaking of bad man in your life, you walking 382 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: around that kind of skin luggage, not not to transition 383 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: from something funny but to something but just thinking of 384 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: like what we just talked about, tough dudes, Yeah, tough generation. 385 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: Trey Johnson was one tough some of a bitch bro. 386 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: He was one of the toughest dudes, super intelligent and 387 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: just a larger than life figure. And he was my teammate. 388 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 3: And you know, you lose contact with guys and you 389 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: don't talk to him, and man, it's been, it's been. 390 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: It's been pretty real for me this last month. Man, 391 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: I lost one of my high school teammates, Rob Robert Hitchcock. 392 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: Who if I didn't have Rob Hitchcock, I don't have 393 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: the career that I have. Like he was a juggernaut 394 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: for North Hills Indians upfront. He passed away suddenly and 395 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: that that was a heartbreaker. And then I got the 396 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: news yesterday that Trey Johnson had passed away. Who I 397 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: played with in Washington just man, sad, sad news man, 398 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: like just super sad. He wasn't very old. City was 399 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: on the rower. Yeah, he was on the road visit. 400 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: Uh one of I believe his son was in a 401 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: lacrosse game, a tournament and they were they were there 402 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: to see that or he was in college either one 403 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 3: something to that effect. He was on the road. I 404 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: guess it was at the hotel. But just sad news man. 405 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 3: So you know, thoughts and prayers out to both those 406 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: families and tough sons of bitches, man, tough dudes, and 407 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 3: it makes you take a good long heart. Look at you. 408 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 3: You've been asking me why I've been on some like different, 409 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 3: different type of action lately. It's probably the biggest reason 410 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: why I've been like kind of like, all you gotta 411 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: you gotta tighten up in your life, like you gotta 412 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: make sure you're doing right because you just don't know 413 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: if you're going to be the next ticket that's punched, 414 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So, but shots out to 415 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: the buster, shots out the head busser, shots out the hitch, 416 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: shots out to my boys, many'all be missed. 417 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: Man, I don't understand what the what the problem is. 418 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: Hey, make you'll know, Hey, you'll want to be checking. 419 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: You don't want to be checking that box. Man, you 420 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 3: all you don't want to be checking checking that hitting 421 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 3: that that that punch in ticketing. The you ain't doing 422 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: it the right way. Bruh. 423 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: Not at the end, said someone someone argue you have, 424 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: but the. 425 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, I wouldn't disagree with you. 426 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: But the on the subject of Trey Johnson, he was 427 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: a second he was a pro bowler, second team All 428 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: Pro back in ninety nine, and yeah, he was on 429 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: a I guess it was a brief family trip and 430 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: just unexpectedly fifty four years old and that was it. 431 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: And uh so, yeah, sad, sad to hear that, and 432 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: sad for his family that they're going right now. 433 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 2: That sucks. Not cool, all right? 434 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: So from that over to this here on two Pro 435 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: and a Cup of Joe with LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox, 436 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: we were talking about the situation in Jacksonville involving Travis 437 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: Hunter and sort of what's the plan here because they 438 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: gave up a lot to draft a guy. 439 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: They were all. 440 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: About, we're going to play in both sides of the ball. 441 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: He's a unicorn, he can do all these different things, 442 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: he's a hybrid, etc. 443 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: Etc. 444 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: Then he gets injured, he misses his majority of the 445 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: year and they had a great season, and you know, 446 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: we kind of made the point last week of man, 447 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: you almost forgot about him, like I swear to got 448 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: late in the year, I forgot that Travis Hunter was 449 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: on the team because of how well they were playing. 450 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: They went on a heater late and then they lost. 451 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: That close game to Buffalo in the postseason, and then 452 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: the you know, story comes out that he gets the surgery. 453 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out what to do with him, 454 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: and Cameron Wolf of the NFL Network spoke over the 455 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: weekend about what the plan does look like now for 456 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. 457 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: Let's take a listen. 458 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: He will play both sides again in twenty twenty. The 459 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: big change may come in the usage. 460 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 9: From what I understand, they plan to pay play him 461 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 9: as a full time cornerback a part time receiver, which 462 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 9: is a switch from last year when he played more 463 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 9: than double of his snaps at receiver than cornerback. 464 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: All Right, so at least we have an understanding as 465 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: to what it's going to look like moving forward, because 466 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: the idea that you were going to get him to 467 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: go same playing time or close to on both sides 468 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: of the ball didn't seem all that realistic from a 469 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: health standpoint. 470 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: Especially after he went through the injury this past season. 471 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: I mean, does this sound realistic? Even putting him at 472 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: at one of the other receiving or at one of 473 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 3: the other positions part time, at receiver position part time. 474 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: Does that even seem realistic? You think, again, his body 475 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: didn't hold up this year off of you know, there's 476 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: a lot to being able to do what they're saying 477 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: he should do. And it's like, I know he's gifted, 478 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: and I know he's a generational talent, and you know 479 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 3: that he's capable of being able to do it. That 480 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 3: doesn't mean you necessarily do it. Jonas Like, there are 481 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 3: a few guys that I would say pretty much on 482 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: a consistent basis, not not like oh, once in a 483 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: blue moon. There are guys that could play multiple positions 484 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball, that play ball. It 485 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 3: just it is what it is. Like. There are some 486 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: real crazy phenomenal and it's the funny thing is some 487 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: of them y'all may not even know their names, and 488 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: they're just some of the most phenomenal athletes. I remember 489 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: a dude horse DoD in college. He actually is the 490 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 3: actor one of the agents on Narcos, the Black Dude 491 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 3: on Yeah, he's the black you know, the agent on 492 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: Snag's Horse Dogs. Dude was the most freakish athlete that 493 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: you could see and they couldn't figure out if they 494 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: wanted to play him at tailback or at linebacker. Couldn't 495 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: figure it out, couldn't figure it out, and he ended 496 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: up not being able. He didn't get on the field 497 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: for either one. Now Travis Hunter gets on the field. 498 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: But I think the point that I'm making is I 499 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 3: don't think they're doing him at this point. I do 500 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: not think they're doing him a service a justice if 501 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: they're playing him both ways on a consistent basis, if 502 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: they're saying like spot duty, like different things. And Q 503 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 3: brought up great points like, okay, you can you know 504 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: what's coming when Travis Hunter comes into the game as 505 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: an offensive player, you kind of have an idea of 506 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: what they're planning on doing defensively when they bring them 507 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: into the game. So to me, if you're putting them 508 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: in there every once in a while, I get it, 509 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: like that's fine, let him eat, let him cook a 510 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 3: couple of times on offense. But what they really need 511 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: to do is focus in on him becoming a pro 512 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: at the position that is going to make them a 513 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: better team. And that's not CB and w R. It's 514 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: not both of them at the same time. And that's 515 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: no hate, that's just me. That's one man's opinion saying, 516 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: maximize what he brings to the table. 517 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: So you think on both sides? 518 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: Or are you saying if I'm being a jonas if 519 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: I'm being honest? And I asked as TJ and Plexus 520 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: on Saturday, which one, which one is more impactful? And 521 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: which one pays more money? It's receiver, It's receiver. You 522 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: used the number two overall pick on him. Play him 523 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: as a receiver. What do you if you want to 524 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: put him in and spot duty as a corner or 525 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: as a cover nickel here and there, do that, but 526 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: play him at receiver number two overall? Pick? How many 527 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: corners go? Number two? Number one overall? 528 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: Well, look, that's why I bring up the question because 529 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: the reason he was drafted where he was at is 530 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: because of the dual threat opportunity. Because if he was 531 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: just a receiver, is he so good of a receiver 532 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: that he would have been taken that high and you 533 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: would have given up all that draft capital. I don't 534 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: think they would have. And if he was so good 535 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: of a cornerback, would he have been drafted that high 536 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: and you would have given up all that If he 537 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: was just a cornerback at his skill set, I don't 538 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: think you would have. I think it was the ability 539 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: to do both and him being such a unicorn. That 540 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: was the appeal, which is why they gave up what 541 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: they gave up. And now you can't do that, and 542 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: you're less than a year in and based on playing time, 543 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: a fraction of his career, and you're already focusing on 544 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: one side of the ball with him. 545 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: I think it's I think you should be focusing in 546 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 3: on one side of the ball, but I think you 547 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: should be focusing in on the side of the ball 548 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: that impacts your team the most. They clearly believe that's corner. 549 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: I think it's receiver. 550 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: Do you think he's a better receiver than corner based. 551 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: On I think as a number over I think as 552 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: a number two overall pick. It doesn't matter if I 553 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: think he's better at receiver. That's what he needs to 554 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: be playing, and that's what he needs to be playing, 555 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 3: because in this day and age, Jonas coverages really dictate 556 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 3: defenses anymore. Like the true cover, the true days of 557 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 3: a cover corner, they they're probably gone. They're probably gone. 558 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: Like yes, corners play man defenses play man, but the 559 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 3: true lockdown corner like, Okay, if you think he's coming 560 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: out there he's going to be like Revis Allen, or 561 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 3: he's going to be like Dion Sanders when he's out 562 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: there or Sante Samuel. If you think he's going to 563 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: be that guy, you're wrong. He will at best probably 564 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: be like a Richard Sherman who benefits from having good 565 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 3: safety play and playing in zone defenses more than man defenses. 566 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: You're not You're You're not in a day and age 567 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 3: where it's like, yep, Travis Hunter has this side of 568 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: the field, just go to the other side, and you 569 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 3: know you can't throw to this side. And if he 570 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 3: does achieve that, then God bless I'll I'll retract this 571 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: statement and I'll take it back and I'll say I 572 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 3: was wrong. But I just don't think the way offenses 573 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: are ran and operated in this this era of time, 574 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: I don't think it. I don't think it allows for that. 575 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: I don't think that you you will have that type 576 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 3: of cornerback play, so you play him on the offensive 577 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: side of the ball. 578 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: Because my thought like and looking at it, I thought 579 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: to myself, well, you know, maybe they need to help 580 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: more on defense as opposed to offense, and that's what 581 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: the plan is. And then you go back and look, 582 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 1: last year they didn't have a thousand year old receiver 583 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: on the entire team. Their leading receiver was really Parker Washington, 584 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: who kind of came out of nowhere because Brian Thomas 585 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: Junior just what, didn't have the same impact he did 586 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: the year before. Travis ATN had a really good year, 587 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: but you know, he's in a contract year, so they 588 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: could lose him. So you look at it, it is 589 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: kind of interesting that this was this is the approach 590 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: that they're taking with all this What do. 591 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 3: You mean whatever, Jonas, Jonas, Let's get out of this joint. 592 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: But so that's why I look and you made the 593 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: point earlier. You know, just because you can do all 594 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: of these things doesn't mean you should. You know, who 595 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: could have been the best punter in NFL history, Randall Cunningham. 596 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: He didn't because they realized, yeah, that guy should probably 597 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: play quarterback. And but for people who think that I'm 598 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: embellishing Randall Cunningham had a ninety eight yard punt, you 599 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: can look, I think it's like a ninety five or 600 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: ninety eight yard put. Some crazy punt that he had 601 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: back in the day because it was one of those 602 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: situations where they're like, all right, we're gonna snap it 603 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: to him. 604 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 2: Just get get rid of the ball, just whatever. 605 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: You can do. 606 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: Guy pumped the ball over ninety yards, so he could 607 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: have done that as well too, but the eagle saw 608 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: it as look, man, yeah he could do this. There's 609 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: a lot of other things that he could do. But 610 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: we want this guy throwing the football, want the ball 611 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: in his hands, and want to maximize his ability from that. 612 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 3: And the right that was the right decision. Yeah, I 613 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 3: just I think that spreading that young man too thin 614 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 3: and not giving him the opportunity to master and maximize 615 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 3: at the most impactful level that he can at one 616 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 3: position is it's a tremendously large risk and at a 617 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: number two pick and what he's capable of doing potentially. 618 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: But you know what I would say, Jonas, here's the 619 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 3: here's the creative alternative. Let him play one side for now, 620 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: let him become an all pro. If he can become 621 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 3: elite at one first, then start using him on the 622 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: other side. But let him become elite at one thing. 623 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 3: Let him get it his feet situated and down on 624 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: the ground on one position, and once he shows that 625 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 3: he's got that under control and that's wrapped up, and 626 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 3: that's that is it's routine, then put on like you know, 627 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 3: work them in to the other side. But to just 628 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 3: throw it all at him, that's enough. That's a lot 629 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 3: for any anyone that comes into the league on one 630 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 3: side of the ball, let alone throw some into the 631 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 3: league with that type of fan fare, that type of attention, 632 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 3: and he's going both ways. It's just it doesn't seem 633 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: feasible on many different levels. 634 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on 635 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you coming 636 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: up next here, we are going to have another edition 637 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: of In case you missed it, it's yours right here 638 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: on FSR. 639 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 640 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 7: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and 641 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 7: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific 642 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 7: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 643 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 644 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here coming up top 645 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: of next hour. A little over ten minutes from now. 646 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: A small victory, a small victory in the NFL, but 647 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: a telling one. We'll get into that for you right 648 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. Before we get to another 649 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: edition of In Case you missed it, though, a reminder 650 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: to check out our brand new YouTube channel for the show. 651 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: Just search two pros FSR on YouTube again. That's two 652 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: pros FSR. Be sure to hit the subscribe and don't 653 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,479 Speaker 1: stop there at the thumbs up icon and comment away. 654 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: Let us know who on the show you agree with, 655 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: who you think is wrong. But check out our new 656 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: channel on YouTube again. Just search two pros FSR and subscribe. 657 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 7: Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of 658 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 7: sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to 659 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 7: bring you in case you missed it. 660 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: And for that we turn it over to our executive producer, 661 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 1: the one and only Patrick sweeka Patty Spree. 662 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 3: What what I do? 663 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 2: It's whatever? 664 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: Are I'm doing it? How was y'alls Valentine's Day? How 665 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 3: are you know? You know what? Valentine's was? 666 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 6: Good? H Honestly, when to go hang out with some friends. 667 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 6: We went to literally go get some sushi and just yeah, 668 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 6: just had a kickback. It was just a friends giving. 669 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 6: I guess you could call it. 670 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 3: It was pretty sure friends. 671 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 2: I think we call that Gallentine's Day on Valentine's So 672 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 2: what would you call it if you're a guy? Mallentine's Day. 673 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 6: His time for in case you misses. So I got 674 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 6: a football related once. So two Guinness World records have 675 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 6: been broken, guys in this one thing. So good and 676 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 6: Ali the Lord, an NFL super fan named Brian Fowler, 677 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 6: proved his love of the game. He attended all thirty 678 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 6: NFL stadiums this season alone in seventy two days. Dude, 679 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 6: my guy attended fifty six total games and honestly, that 680 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 6: actually became a new record set for most attended games 681 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 6: in a single season. And then the second one was 682 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 6: the fastest time to visit all these stadiums. It was 683 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 6: seventy two days, twenty hours, fifty six minutes. Why because 684 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 6: he's a super fan or as we like to say, 685 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 6: maybe a nerd. 686 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 3: So he had the same type of Valentine's Day you 687 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 3: did yesterday. I haven't visited Saturday. 688 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 6: Haven't even been to one single NFL game in my 689 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 6: life outside of preseason. 690 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 2: Come on, you don't do it, not yet. I want 691 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: to Oh yeah, you gotta get to one. I mean 692 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: to be fair, preseason game. 693 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 6: Did you go to the Seahawks versus the Chargers in 694 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 6: Qualcombe Stadium? 695 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 7: How? 696 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 2: Yeah? 697 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 7: Here was that? 698 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 2: That was like ten years ago? What a dump that 699 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 2: place was? Qualcomm was a dump? Yeah it was. 700 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: I just look, man, I don't know, based on how 701 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: good the TV product is, the access you have, I 702 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: don't know why you would prefer to go to a 703 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 1: game live as opposed to watch on television, and especially 704 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: when you can watch every single game, Like why go 705 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: to just one when you can watch every single game 706 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: at home and it's all there and by the way, 707 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: way more affordable than going to fifty six games in 708 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: seventy one days or whatever this guy did. 709 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 3: I just think the TV it just used to be 710 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 3: for passing time. You didn't have to go spend all 711 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 3: that money, you pack of lunch and go watch. But 712 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 3: now I think it's just more experiential. You're just going 713 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 3: for the experience, you know. It's like why go to 714 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 3: Disney or go to you know, Six Flags or Cedar 715 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 3: Point or whatever. You know, it's for the experience, even 716 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 3: though you can't get a roller coaster and get it 717 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 3: all at your house like you could have a game, 718 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 3: but you know it's all experimental, experience driven. 719 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 6: Sh