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Speaker 1: As soon as we try to record an episode, news breaks,

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Speaker 1: that you will not believe. John Canzano eviscerates and has

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Speaker 1: that you must hear to believe it. I'm George Rice Stir,

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Speaker 1: He's Ralph Amston. This is the Pac twelve Apostles. Thank

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Speaker 1: continue to grow when we continue to bring you the

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Speaker 1: real oh Ralph. Another time we recorded an episode, we

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Speaker 1: the way that we actually forced them to announce that

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Speaker 1: Larry Scott announces that, you know, we're we're back on

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Speaker 1: Thursday game October twenty nine. Here we come, dude. So okay,

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Speaker 1: before we even get into what he said on dan Patrick,

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Speaker 1: how how was my recap of the events that have happened?

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Speaker 1: I feel like you got it. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: It is literally impossible. It is literally impossible. You could

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Speaker 1: very dumb thing to get in trouble for UH. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. This whole thing is just so stupid. Um.

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Speaker 1: But back to UH, back to Governor Newsom, the idea

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Speaker 1: I want to know who made the call. I want

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Speaker 1: Larry Scott called Gavin Newsom, because all I know right

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Speaker 1: Scott shouldn't his card to get in there trillion dollar

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Speaker 1: offices in San Francisco should be de deactivated immediately, dude. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: And truthfully, the networks you won't even have to pay

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Speaker 1: like it is just it's so freaking stupid and um

430
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: and also and that's not even to come up with

431
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: the to to fix the brand. The brand has been

432
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: just devalued so much because it is damn grifter, dude.

433
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: And and now you look like the Big Ten's puppet.

434
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: The Big Ten looks like it's it's running the Pack

435
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: twelve around by its nose. I'm not I'm not, I'm

436
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: not mad or anything. I did ask the question, um,

437
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: and there there's a pretty funny tweet that I saw

438
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: earlier that'll I think it'll it'll piss you off in

439
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: all the right ways. It was a Nebraska fans saying

440
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: do we get credit? Uh, do we get credit for

441
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve restarting? Because it's Nebraska that drove the

442
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: Big ten into the situation that it's in, and and

443
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: without the Big ten doing what they did. There's no

444
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: way the PAC twelve does what they do. Um. And

445
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: I even I think I even said that yesterday, Uh,

446
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: that it's very obvious that if the Big ten doesn't

447
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: vote to restart, there's absolutely no way we're having this

448
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: conversation none. Correct. I mean, it's just that. And and

449
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: so people might say that, you know, technically the PAC

450
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: twelve is looking at its own criteria and is actually

451
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: dealing directly with the state of California and the State

452
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: of Oregon to make sure, um, that that all of

453
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: this can happen. Um. But the truth is, none of

454
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: those conversations would have taken place without the Big ten

455
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: making their move. It just it just wouldn't have. The

456
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: PAC twelve followed the Big Ten into this, and supposedly

457
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: did so on the backs of science that they were

458
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: saying was better than the science that everybody else was

459
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: taking a look at. Right. So then so then you

460
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: it turns out it's not about the science, it's just

461
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: about the states holding you hostage. What turns out the

462
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: states say they're not the ones holding you hostage, and

463
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: you never made contact with them to figure out what

464
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: ways you could have a work around because the forty

465
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: are playing, and the Chargers are playing, and the Rams

466
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: are playing, and so it really just makes the Pack

467
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: twelve look very stupid. Then you have the President of

468
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: the United States way in on the Pack twelve, but

469
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: only after the Big Ten. You know, he was taking

470
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: credit for you know, the Big ten um making its

471
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: way back, which he didn't do because the the White

472
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: House did not. The Big Ten has explicitly said that

473
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: they got no testing or supplies or anything from the

474
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: White House, that they didn't help them in any way.

475
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: But but this is if you say it on TV,

476
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: it must be true, right, Yeah, I mean I guess

477
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: that then, And like we've pointed out on this show,

478
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna there's gonna be a segment of the population

479
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: that believes everything that guy says, regardless of of of

480
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: whether or not as any merit. And so I think

481
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: that there's enough people that are going to believe that

482
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Donald Trump deserve credit for making this happen.

483
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: And I even I tweeted out that the video of

484
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think people liked it very much,

485
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: but that clip from yes Man where I just said,

486
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: like this is Clay Travis and the Big tent bullying

487
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve into into making a decision. When the

488
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: Pack twelve backs out of its decision to not play

489
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: football in the fall, it really calls into question the

490
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: reasons they were making the decision not to play in

491
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: the first place. Like I want to choose to believe

492
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: that this virus is not political, but it's very obvious

493
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: that our reaction to the virus has been I want

494
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: to make sure were the kids um first and foremost,

495
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: especially if they're not being paid, are protected. That's been

496
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: your angle at it this entire time. You know, we

497
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: we don't control the outcome of of what goes on.

498
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: If they play, we're going to follow along. But for

499
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: the most part we've been we've been uh shouting from

500
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 1: the rafters that it's about understanding the virus and if

501
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: you can't play safely, then you know, do what you

502
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: can to make make the decision to make sure that

503
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: safety is at the root of everything that you're doing.

504
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: And because of that, me a registered Republican and you

505
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: somebody who has a lot more conservative ideas than I think,

506
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: people want to give you credit, which is which is crazy,

507
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: right because with the fact that people um regularly on

508
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: Twitter and comment on you know, on the podcast and

509
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: all that, where they're like, George, you're a liberal. I'm like,

510
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: where though, where and you? You and Clay Travis actually

511
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: just went back and forth early ere today and I'm

512
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: reading some of the replies. I'm reading some of the

513
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: replies to Clay and they're they're they're calling you all

514
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: sorts of uh weird names that are basically painting you

515
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: as a fearmongering, brainwashed leftist, Marxist um, somebody who's just

516
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: like hiding in the closet with with p running down

517
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: your leg. And it's incredibly discouraging because you have had

518
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: the same mindset from start to finish. And you can

519
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: make an argument that Clay Travis has to, but he's

520
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: changed the criteria on what it takes in order for

521
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: him to possess the mindset that he possesses uh an

522
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: infinite amount of times, infinite amount of times. And I

523
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: think that you know, you, you and Clay just aren't

524
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: gonna see eye to eye um on on this issue.

525
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: My end of the day, you want the kids to

526
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: be safe from something that we don't completely understand. Yes,

527
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: because his his idea was, Okay, let's let's expose all

528
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: the kids in college football to coronavirus. That way, then

529
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: kids don't have to sit out for contact tracing like

530
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: they do for the Baylor Houston game. And I'm like,

531
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: that's stupid because we don't know all of the long

532
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: and short term consequences to to this, So intentionally infecting

533
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: somebody is stupid when the when obviously the best case

534
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: scenario is to not get it. And this whole play

535
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: at all costs thing, which I have already said I

536
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: would let my son play under the Big Ten protocol.

537
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: So this is not me hiding in a corner with

538
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: with p running down my my leg. I'm just saying,

539
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: intentionally infecting somebody just so you can play football and

540
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: don't miss games when re infection is a potential possibility

541
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: after three months after the anybody's wear off is and

542
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: it may have oregon and other effects on your body,

543
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: which we do not know. Medical scientists do not know

544
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: because it's too new. It's it's it's stupid like and

545
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: if people can't see the difference between those two things,

546
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: then I don't know what to tell you. Well, I mean,

547
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: I guess then you're just gonna have to be uh

548
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: communist and uh, I guess I am too. Yeah, so

549
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: that's that we're we're you know, we gotta get our

550
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: pro Lenin T shirts and and uh playing a trip

551
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: to minx Minsk. Like I can't even say Russian cities names.

552
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: I don't. This thing is so dumb. I've been told

553
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: that I am so many things that I don't even understand.

554
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't even understand what they are. All I want,

555
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: all I want is this unpaid labor to be protected

556
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: from our desire to get paid and be entertained. I

557
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: just want the people at the root of the thing

558
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: that I enjoy to be protected so the institution can continue.

559
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: Are there things about that institution that I like to

560
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: see changed over time, Absolutely, But I don't want to

561
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: see college football ruined in the short term just so

562
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: or in the long term, just so I can enjoy

563
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: it in the short term. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

564
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: And if the people out there that are saying that

565
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: we should play it safe are wrong, then I'm sure

566
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: a lot of them, if they're college football fans, will

567
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: be happy to be wrong. But this idea that there's

568
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: this huge conspiracy theory to bring college football to a

569
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: halt because it'll make UM the president and by extension,

570
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, governors who you might disagree with look bad.

571
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: Guess what, everybody looks bad all the time because we're

572
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: in an unprecedented situation. Everybody's practicing some form of decentralized leadership,

573
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: and then we're all online where you can hear everybody's

574
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: voices all the time, and most of us have really

575
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: bad ideas on most things that we are not an

576
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: expert in. So I just don't think that there's some

577
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: grand conspiracy to bring college football to a halt in

578
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: order to, you know, replace the man in charge at

579
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: the head of the country. Are there some people that

580
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: think like that. I mean, maybe there's some people that

581
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: think that celebrities drink baby juice to stay young forever.

582
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: You know, people believe dumb ship. But like me personally,

583
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: I just want to see college football played at the

584
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: absolute highest level and I want to see the PAC

585
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: twelve represented well. And uh, that's really hard to do

586
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: with pandemic going on and a dogship commissioner in charge

587
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: of a response to a pandemic. Yes, Um, and now

588
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: it is time for us to play a little game.

589
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: Offer Bruce Felman's tweets well actually offer. Bruce Felman article

590
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: called who Said It? Which Pack twelve coach said this quote.

591
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear health and wellness out of

592
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: anybody's mouth, one Pack twelve coach said Thursday morning, before

593
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: adding this that his team had at least six injuries

594
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: in one day in the training camp run up in

595
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: the late summer. That we are United players. They have

596
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: a fucking point. It's not fucking ping pong. You just

597
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: don't open the garage door and co play. I don't

598
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: think that people know that. When the seasons were postponed,

599
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: the Big ten and PAC twelve took completely different paths.

600
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: They kept going like it was still training camp. They

601
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: kept the same schedule, like they were gonna play. We

602
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: didn't half our schools couldn't nose. Our nose is so

603
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: fucking far up the Big tens as Let's just do

604
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: what's best for the Pac twelve. So let's do. Let's

605
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: let's go through the coaches one by one and explain why,

606
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: Explain why it could be them and why it's probably

607
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: not them. Okay, So, UM, I have an idea, ralph

608
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: of what order we should go in. UM should we

609
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: go in alphabetical order by what by like coaches, last, neighbor's, school,

610
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: school man, Jesus or or I can just throw throw

611
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: out coaches and save the best ones for last. Yeah,

612
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: that's that's fine with me too. That's okay. Let's go

613
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: with her met words at Arizona State. Okay, So why

614
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: could it be her meed words? It can't be HERM Edwards.

615
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: There there's one who three, there's three F bombs and

616
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: an ass. There's no way that's that's HERM and that

617
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: there's no chance unless he is, like you know, if

618
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: he just took his time, you know, it would be

619
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: like Tony Dungee making that quote, like he would have

620
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: had the callt him, you know, drunk in his twenties

621
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: to make that quote. Okay, So so you're saying that

622
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: there's nothing about that. Uh, you're saying, there's nothing about

623
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: that quote that could could ever make you think that

624
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 1: that it's HERM correct, nothing at all? Okay. Um, Yeah,

625
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: I think I think that beyond the profanity, the idea

626
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: that HERM Edwards is worrying about anything else besides what's

627
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: going on at Arizona State, UM is kind of silly,

628
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: Like herm Edwards brain has room for what is going

629
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: on at a s U and what is going on

630
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: in the markets where he still has where he's still

631
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: under contract to appear meekly to talk about their NFL teams.

632
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: So like he's got one eye on the Kansas City

633
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the other on a s U. So I

634
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: don't think he would even know enough about what's going

635
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: on in the Big ten to make that strong of

636
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: a statement. Okay. Carl Durrell at Colorado, mhm, definitely not. Um,

637
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with definitely not because I don't think

638
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: it's anyone who is a first year I think the

639
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: likelihood that it is a first year coach is very small. Yes,

640
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: he barely even met his team, you know, I mean

641
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: like that well he did, he did just have them

642
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: all go go on a hike and and get So

643
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: maybe he's in a bad mood from getting sighted by

644
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: the city of Boulder. Yeah, he's like he's rules me damned.

645
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean, but he wasn't even in the PAC twelve

646
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: last So it just it just doesn't feel football last, correct,

647
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, it just doesn't feel It feels like somebody

648
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: who's got a little bit of an axe to grind

649
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: a little bit too. Um, next coach up um. Justin

650
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: Wilcox at cal Uh. This was a very animated statement.

651
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: And Justin Wilcox is quite robotic in his public interactions.

652
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: You know, I listened to him. The liveliest he ever

653
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: sounds is when he's talking to like Ashley Adamson and

654
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: Yogi Roth on those Pack twelve podcasts that they that

655
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: they put out. Um, I don't I just don't think that.

656
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't think this is in him, this this modality

657
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: of speech. I don't think he's programmed to talk like that.

658
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: See at my initial thought with that was was no,

659
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: But as we continue to talk through it, I was like,

660
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: hold up, this is an anonymous quote. So and I

661
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: know that Bruce covered uh covered Justin when we were

662
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: at Oregon, so he knows or so he knows Justin,

663
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, so, and I don't

664
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: know how well Bruce knows his dad. So this could

665
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: be you know, that could be a thing Like I

666
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: am not because I know that Justin's a little fiery

667
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: and and and he'll drop some moth bombs, dude. He

668
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: he will drop some some colorful language. And he definitely

669
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: has thoughts and opinions on things that he would not

670
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: share publicly. So I do believe that this could be

671
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: him anonymously. However, though too, you are the king of

672
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: So if anybody doesn't know, Bruce, I'm Bruce. Ralph went

673
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: through quotes from other Pack twelve coaches to see if

674
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: some of the language was the same. Uh yeah, and

675
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: so I I don't I don't know if I don't

676
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: know if it quite matches some of the stuff. But

677
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: so here's what I do know. Bruce Feldman has been

678
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: reporting on the movements of Justin Wilcox and Carl Durrell.

679
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Bruce Feldman might have even broken

680
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: that UM. Durrell was brought in as the o c

681
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: of of of Vanderbilt, and I think over the years

682
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: Feldman has broken some news on Justin Wilcox. I mean,

683
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: it's a nature of the business that he's going to

684
00:44:51,239 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: have reported on UM on most of these coaches UM.

685
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: But I mean I think he broke the wind Wilcox

686
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: was fired by USC UM. I'm looking at some old

687
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: tweets right now of Bruce Feldman talking about UM how

688
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: Justin Wilcox was not a candidacy for the Oregon opening,

689
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: which means he was in contact with Wilcox. UM about

690
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: that process. I saw him tweet about Justin Wilcox potentially

691
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: bringing Tosh Loopoy to Cal, which means he was probably

692
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: in contact with um with Justin Wilcox there. Um And

693
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: and I mean, if you here's a tweet from January eighth,

694
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, Bruce Felman with Sunny Dikes out at

695
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: Cal expect Wisconsin slash former USC DC Justin Wilcox to

696
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: get strong consideration for the head coaching vacancy. He also

697
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: broke the news of Wilcox getting the job as the

698
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: Badger's defensive coordinators. So, UM, the possibility exists. The possibility

699
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: definitely exists because I know that they they definitely have

700
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: some type of relationship that allows Feldman to do his job.

701
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: Um as far as breaking news about Wilcox. UM, And

702
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: I think you know, Bruce Feldman even put out a

703
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: list back in of his top ten defensive coordinators in

704
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: all of college football. Guess who's number six on that list?

705
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Justin Wilcox. So if you're saying this could

706
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: be something that he'd say, and he does have opinions

707
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: like that, and I can tell that going back in time,

708
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 1: the two seem to have somewhat of a relationship. Um, well,

709
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: we'll put this in the maybe column. See okay, so

710
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: he's in the maybe column. Let's go to the man

711
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: who had his team pinning letters on their letter head.

712
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: But but, um in Clay Hilton, Clay Helton. Is there

713
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: any way that he said this? No, No, dude, No,

714
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: he could never have an opinion this strong or with

715
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: that many F bombs in it. He's too nice of

716
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: a guy. He'd be like, well, you know, you know,

717
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: we're just trying to work some simultaneously. Let's do it

718
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: with a smile. He's like Jason Garrett without the clapping.

719
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: He he's straight up might be the nicest head coach

720
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: I've ever had a sit down conversation with. Yep, he's

721
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: just like It's like when you say he's too nice,

722
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: he literally is nice. Like that adjective can be accurately

723
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: used to describe anytime anyone ever utters the number sixty nine,

724
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: uh and us he's head coach. That's the only two

725
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: times where I feel like it it accurately is is

726
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: used because you're always talking about like levels of nice. Look,

727
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: but but he's he's legitimately a nice man? Is he nice?

728
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: Or is he kind of a big big because I

729
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: was I remember reading any thing about nice being like

730
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: selfish and self self serving, where where a kindness sometimes

731
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: involves pain. Yeah, I guess. I guess kindness would be

732
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: a trait, uh and nice would be an action in

733
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: the moment, because you can be a kind person and

734
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: not be nice, I guess, depending on the situation. But

735
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: you can't be um like. You can't be a nice

736
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: person and not be kind probably, So Yeah, I guess

737
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: we just say he's he's a kind dude. He's a

738
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: really good dude. I feel bad every time we criticize

739
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: him just because he's a football coach. We're not criticizing

740
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: the person. We're criticizing the coach. How about your boy

741
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: from the Arizona Amsden's uh um oh lor Kevin Sumlin. Uh,

742
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: here's why it could be him and intimate and not

743
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: of what other conferences are up to as somebody who

744
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: has worked in multiple conferences and been in um college

745
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: football as long as he has. Uh, here's why it's

746
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: probably not Kevin someone if he doesn't even let his

747
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: kids talk to the local media. Do you really think

748
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: that he's out on his own diming out the conference

749
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: to national media members? Is his name? Is he related

750
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: to Mike Leach? Uh? Well, Leach would put his name

751
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: behind something like well, that's yeah. He definitely would would

752
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: not make it. No, he was like, no, you better

753
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: not put that anonymous. You better credited to me. Um,

754
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: I would agree, this is not Kevin Sumlin, no way, No,

755
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: hap he did. He did break the news of Kevin

756
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: Sumlin to Arizona. Yeah, but did, But they may have

757
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: come from somebody in a I mean, from somebody at

758
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: Arizona as opposed to you. I mean yeah, yeah, I

759
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: mean that's that's possible that that was a who's who's

760
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: there at the time, Alabama's athletic director. Yeah, I don't know.

761
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Because he also broke the news

762
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: that Marcel Yates was not going or was going to

763
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: be kept on, and that Noel Mazzoni was going to

764
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: join on as offensive coordinator. They definitely have a relationship,

765
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't know. I've never heard Kevin

766
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: someone talk like this. Yeah, I mean it depends on

767
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: what time of day, Like it like if this quote

768
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: was taken after like nine pm, yeah, it could have

769
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: been good maybe, But when was it tweeted out? When

770
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: was it tweeted out? No, No, it was it was

771
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: it was in his article. It was in his article.

772
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: Uh that he that he wrote, Oh man, okay, we

773
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: don't we don't know, We're not gonna be okay, okay,

774
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: So so I would put him in the no category. Um,

775
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: how about Chip Kelly. Okay, So when I when I

776
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: tweeted about this, when I quote tweeted this, and I

777
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: won't reveal what I said, people might have already seen

778
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: it if they're listening to this and they follow me,

779
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: and if you follow me on Twitter, I just want

780
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: to give you some advice. Don't it's not it's not

781
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: an enjoyable experience. You might as well move along. But uh,

782
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: the most of the people that replied to me said, no,

783
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: this definitely has to be Chip, and I disagree entirely.

784
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 1: And I think you and I are on the same

785
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: page as to why I disagree that this is Chip Kelly. Okay.

786
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: Why because it gives credence to the We Are United

787
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: movement and I don't feel like that's something Chip Kelly

788
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: would publicly do one agree with you or or unless

789
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: it was like a realization like hold up, they do

790
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: have something that they're talking about. Damn, like I should

791
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: have got got behind this. I'm gonna put it in

792
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: the Like. Chip doesn't make statements to the media, so

793
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: if if he did, like this would have to be

794
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: a private conversation that then Bruce was like, yo, is

795
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: it okay if I use that and I just say

796
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: it you I mean, like, and I don't I know

797
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: people who cover u c L A who can't get

798
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: ahold of the dude. But then again, like I'm friends

799
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: with A. J. Jacobsen who covers uh UM Oregon for rivals,

800
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: and he was really close with Chip. And you know

801
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: why he was really close with Chip because A J.

802
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: Jacobson served in the United States military and Chip thought

803
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: that was awesome. So like, you never really know you

804
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: know whose guy is is who's and I don't know

805
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: if if Feldman is somebody who would be the person.

806
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: And then but Chip serve as a national media member,

807
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: and I do believe that at Chip Kelly's first practice,

808
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: first ever practice as head coach of u c L A,

809
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: guess who was in attendance Bruce Felman, Dude, I need

810
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: you need to be my damn lifeline if I ever

811
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: get called on who wants to be a millionaire some

812
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: sports sports edition. Um So, I guess we will throw

813
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: Chip in the maybe category with uh yeah, because the

814
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: level of saltiness, the level of saltiness for sure. Yeah

815
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: with you what this says to me? This is all

816
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: just breadcrumbs and I'm a carboholic. Um So, so Chip

817
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: goes into maybe category with Justin Wilcox. All right, let's

818
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: finish off guest the Pac twelth South with uh Tye Whittingham,

819
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: wm ty Whittingham. It wasn't him, Kyle Whittingham. Jesus, I

820
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: always get dude. I don't know why I I always

821
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: tried to uh combine willing Ham and Whittingham. I don't

822
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: know why those names are just so like one of

823
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: them black, one of them white one. I'm still coaching

824
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: the other ones not. I don't know why these names

825
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: are so tough for me. But I messed him up.

826
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: So Kyle Whittingham at Utah who is furloughed right right now?

827
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: So so is he even allowed to use his university phone?

828
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 1: So maybe yeah, so here, here's why it could be him. Um,

829
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: it could be him because he could be frustrated that

830
00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: he's not getting paid. Um. And it part of that

831
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: quote applies to them. Ye, like they're literally not ready

832
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: to go because they're not even at work. Yeah, exactly exactly.

833
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: He's like, you can't just open a damn garage, don't

834
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: work and go play pink Paul. It's like, because we're

835
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: not even at work. So so, yes, you you can't

836
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: just turn it on. Yeah. Um, I uh here, here's

837
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: why I don't think it's him. Um. I think Kyle

838
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: Whittingham is Mormon. M oh and that that would not

839
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: be a very Mormon quote. It doesn't feel like it.

840
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like and now I've known plenty of more.

841
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: I'm I live in suburban Arizona, and I spend every

842
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: summer hanging out in Utah. Uh. The the LDS folks

843
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: uh now known as the Church of Jesus Christ. They

844
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: did the like the the Ohio State. Um. They are uh,

845
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: you know, they're human, just like anybody else. And you'll

846
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: have but but at the same time, it's not it's

847
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: not not typical. It's and I'm you know, I've been

848
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: around him a little bit. I've gotten to ask him

849
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: some questions and press conferences and things like that. Um,

850
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: he's very measured, very measured. Even the most animated I've

851
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: ever seen him was I think he criticized, you have

852
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: a back in after some nonsense happened in a game,

853
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: and even his anger in that moment was very, um,

854
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: very measured. It was. You know, he's not somebody who's

855
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: a loose cannon. Now would does Bruce Feldman have an

856
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: in with him, just like he hasn't in with everybody else? Yes?

857
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: But I think Feldman and Whittingham are friends. I think

858
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: their relationship goes beyond. This is such speculation on on

859
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: my part, um, but they talk quite a bit. If

860
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: you just follow um what Bruce Felman has said publicly

861
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: about Kyle Whittingham. This isn't just somebody that he covers.

862
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: This is somebody who he has a tremendous amount of

863
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: of respect for and definitely has a personal relationship with.

864
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: So could it be him just because they have that

865
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: closeness to where Kyle Whittingham might speak informally to him,

866
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: Maybe he winning hall Ham on the Nebraska opening and

867
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: the USC opening he has retweeted the profiles that other

868
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: writers have written about Kyle Whittingham, which is not something

869
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: that is commonplace for national reporters. So I would say

870
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: that there's a there's a slight maybe just out of

871
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: that personal relationship. I'm gonna go with no, because he

872
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: apparently is he was, or he's he currently does or

873
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: has recently served on the on the State High Council.

874
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm going with a no for

875
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: for tie for for Kyle Whittingham despite there being numerous

876
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: reasons for him to want to do it. Okay, Okay,

877
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: so that covers the back twelve south, so we got

878
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: or wait, so so what category are we're gonna put

879
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: him in. Um, I'm gonna say that it's a possibility,

880
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: but not above Chip and I'm not above anybody else

881
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: that we've said it's possibility for so far. Okay. So

882
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: so really we only have two real possibilities so far

883
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: in Chip and and and justin Wilcox. Okay, let's go

884
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: to the north where the most likely candidates are. UM,

885
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: let's start with Nick Rolovich. One. This would be something

886
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: he would say, what the NOD too, the UH player

887
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: movement seems like that would eliminate him. And also I

888
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: don't think it's a first year coach regardless, So he

889
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: has those two strikes against him. Would he get fired

890
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: up and say something like this? Yeah? Probably? Um, did

891
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: he even even after he was getting ready to kick

892
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: players off the team. Well, so it's a solid note

893
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: for me, like, there's no way would he say something

894
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: like this outside of the like the after we heard

895
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: the whole player movement, you know, his stance on that

896
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: got recorded, ps that player is in the transfer portal? Now, Um,

897
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: I think it's a no for me. But could I

898
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: imagine him saying something like this, Yeah, I definitely could.

899
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: M hmm. I'm I'm gonna lean towards you because I

900
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: don't know him like that, so I will agree with

901
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: you and put him in the no category. And I

902
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: don't think it's first year head coach. Um, how about

903
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 1: our kind of guy up at there at UH Washington,

904
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: Mr Jimmy Lake. Again, I do not think it's a

905
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: first year head coach. Yeah, And and I haven't heard him,

906
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: Like that's somebody that Bruce has to have a good

907
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: working relationship with to be able to have this sort

908
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: of thing. And first year head coach just doesn't say

909
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: it at all. I mean, like it's different where Rolovich

910
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: came from a different place. But it's Jimmy Lake's first

911
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: head coaching job, and I've never read a quote from

912
01:00:50,040 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: him that's even remotely controversial. Yes, yes, um the I

913
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: don't think that Feldman and Jimmy Lake are close. But

914
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: your boy Gerald Alexander helped Feldman write an article about

915
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: Jimmy Lake getting promoted to be head coach and why

916
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: that was, why that was such a big deal to him. Um,

917
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't think that Feldman as far

918
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: as you know, weighing his relationships with all the coaches, Um,

919
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of what he knew

920
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: about Jimmy Lake and him getting promoted came from his

921
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: contacts at University Washington outside of Jimmy Lake. Um, even

922
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: if it was even if it was Chris Peterson. So

923
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I'm gonna say no again,

924
01:01:58,400 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't think it was the first

925
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: year head coach regardless. Yeah, I would agree with you, dear.

926
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: How about uh Jonathan Smith at Oregon State? Uh Jonathan

927
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: Smith does not have a voice he's like that long

928
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: running um John Oliver joke about Jared Kushner, like nobody

929
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: knows what his voice sounds like. Uh. And I and

930
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, I've actually heard Jonathan Smith talk. I've I've

931
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: interviewed him um at Pactral Media Day. Uh. And he's

932
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: super excitable and just this doesn't give me a Jonathan

933
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: Smith vibe. Yeah, I would. I would agree with that.

934
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: He he seems very focused on Oregon State and not

935
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: on a whole lot of anything else. And you know,

936
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: I just doubt it was him who said it. So

937
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: we got um two coaches left who I feel are

938
01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: probably who initially you said that actually will go with

939
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:10,959
Speaker 1: Stanford first, will go with um. Oh lord, what's his name? Yeah,

940
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: David David sahn Um, who who I think is the

941
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: most likely candidate to have said this. If you had

942
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: me choose and bet a betting man, I would choose

943
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: David Shaw to have said this, even though I had

944
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: trouble with his name for a second. Okay, So that

945
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: that's your that's your leader in the clubhouse, that's my

946
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: leader in the clubhouse. And probably second would probably be

947
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: mm hmm, maybe Chip cant No damn. Like I guess

948
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: Justin Wilcox would be my second or uh yeah, yeah

949
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: he would be my second, or Mario Cristo ball but yeah, yeah,

950
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 1: that would kind of be my order my list. I mean,

951
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: it would be interesting for a Stanford coach to reference

952
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: a sport like ping pong, because sports like ping pong

953
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: or what have made the Pack twelve the Conference of

954
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: champions what what? Well? And and Stanford is that school

955
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: though it's the most successful school in terms of championships

956
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: in the entire country, just not in football. Uh. Here's

957
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: why you might be right. David Shaw has been Bruce

958
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: Feldman's go to on hot button issues in the conference

959
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: since he took over as head coach. Yeah. So, um,

960
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to find some of the

961
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: links because this is back when Bruce Feldman was at Fox.

962
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: Uh and they they've scrubbed some of that stuff. Um,

963
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: but Bruce Feldman brought David Shaw in to talk private

964
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: quarterback coaches. Bruce Feldman um had him on a podcast

965
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: back in to talk about hot button issues in um

966
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: in college football. Uh and he has also let's see, um,

967
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: there was a couple Uh so in two thousand fourteen

968
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: and two thousand fifteen, he brought him in um to

969
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: talk about like hot button issues, and David Shaw has

970
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: even tweeted that it's it's always great to have conversations

971
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: with Bruce Feldman back in I think there's a March tweets.

972
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: So they have a relationship. It's been his go to. Uh.

973
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: He wrote an article back in that David Shaw is

974
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: now college football's voice of reason. So there's that. Um.

975
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: He also put out an article on his top twenty

976
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: five coaches in all of college football. And you know,

977
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: I think this is back in March, this March before

978
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: the whole pandemic hit, um, the week before the pandemic hit,

979
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: and he put him in the top even now, so

980
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: they definitely have a relationship. He goes to him on

981
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: hot button issues. Um, he's willing to go out on

982
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: a limb. I think David Shaw is one of the

983
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: first people to bring Brenda Tracy in to speak to

984
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: his team. He's definitely not afraid to speak his mind. Um. Yeah,

985
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean i'd say, I'd say, and if everyone we've

986
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: talked about so far, uh, it's probably most likely him. Yep. See,

987
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: I knew we would come to an agreement. How about

988
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: your boy Mario Chris the of who you initially thought

989
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: it was. I said, if everybody was talking about so far,

990
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: because this was definitely Mario Cristo ball, Dude, I don't

991
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: see it, dude, I don't see Mario Christoval on this

992
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: at all, because where he said this isn't pink pong.

993
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: You just don't open the garage door. So some of

994
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: the Oregon players were already gone, but they but their

995
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: players were already set to come back on Sunday. They

996
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: had recalled all their players on Sunday already, so they

997
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: already had had a plan to get back to practicing.

998
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: So that's the So unless he was not speaking about

999
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: his team and just speaking about the conference in general,

1000
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: then yeah. But out of the coaches that would have

1001
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: the cajones to say this, I think that he would

1002
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: be one of the ones that that would say it

1003
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: in that fashion. So I'm gonna go David Shaw one,

1004
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: Mario Cristo ball too, and in, um, Justin Wilcox three.

1005
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: All right, well, I'm I'm going with Cristal Ball one

1006
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: and just one. I feel like it had crystal ball energy,

1007
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: like the quote I read it in his voice. Um,

1008
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman put out an article on September seven, So

1009
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: what is that a week ago? Um? And he it

1010
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: was on Penais Soul and he said, of all the

1011
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,959
Speaker 1: great things you'll hear about Panais Seul as a prospect

1012
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: between now and the draft day, this Mario crystal Ball

1013
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: quote will be tough to top. Uh. And it's just said,

1014
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,759
Speaker 1: I think the guy has a lot of fun kicking ass.

1015
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: So here here I am making the the the connection

1016
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: just because he recently lead with a quote from Mario

1017
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: crystal Ball have been included profanity, So they've been in

1018
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: contact recently. Um And and this is gonna be a

1019
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: dumb one. But when Oregon hired Mario crystal Ball seven fifty,

1020
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 1: the fan out of Portland had Bruce Feldman on to

1021
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: talk about what that higher would mean for University of Oregon.

1022
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: This is back in and he was a big fan

1023
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, and he said, the main takeaway from

1024
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: that interview is you should know that Mario crystal Ball

1025
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: is a fiery guy. And to me that was that

1026
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: quote was fire filled and it was supportive of the players.

1027
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: And he's the biggest players coach in the conference, maybe

1028
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: bigger than her. Well, herm's herms not the coach at

1029
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:52,759
Speaker 1: Arizona State, So I can't I can't take that. So okay,

1030
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: then you're gonna tell me that Antonio Pierce is not

1031
01:09:55,160 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: a player's coach. Uh, I don't know he's the boss

1032
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean, or or agent Ray Anderson? Is that player focused? No,

1033
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: they are, I would say they are. So Mario Crystabal

1034
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: to me is is probably the lead players coach of

1035
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: the bunch. Hasn't chased a whole lot of guys off

1036
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: the football team for you know, personality conflicts. So um, yeah,

1037
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: that's that's my and and it's not a one A

1038
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: one B for me. It's it's Mario Crystabal number one,

1039
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: David Shawn number two, Justin Wilcox number three. Okay, Well,

1040
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: you guys tell us who you guys thought would um,

1041
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: who you guys thought made this quote? Tweet us, send

1042
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: us an email. I'm at it Unafraid Show dot com.

1043
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: However you want to get a hold of us, make

1044
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 1: sure you send it. And also news tried to break

1045
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 1: before we finished this podcast again. Um uh um. Ruth

1046
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: Bader Ginsburg, she passed away. She had been a champion

1047
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: for people's rights, a champion for uh, you know, and

1048
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: she sat on the Supreme Court with dignity. I don't

1049
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: think she ever had any scan and you know, like

1050
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: some of the other people who have have had and

1051
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, we just wanta to honor and at least

1052
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: acknowledge her in this time. Yeah, I mean she uh,

1053
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, people say they want to keep politics out

1054
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 1: of sports, but uh, sports have definitely, um have definitely

1055
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: U been in her purview as a Supreme Court judge.

1056
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: You know she um, I think she uh ruled on

1057
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: Title nine. She's she's part of why we have the

1058
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: system that we we have right now, for better or worse. Uh,

1059
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: And she dissented on Murphy versus n C double a UM.

1060
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: And so I mean she's definitely had quite a bit

1061
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Speaker 1: to do with with college sports when it's you know,

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Speaker 1: when she's she's helped shape um everything. So this was uh,

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Speaker 1: this this is definitely huge news and affects the country.

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Speaker 1: And you know that's somebody who is U as far

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Speaker 1: as my my my wife goes. UM, you know, that's

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Speaker 1: probably her personal probably her personal hero. And you know

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Speaker 1: that's uh, I'd put it on the equivalent of hearing

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Speaker 1: that you know, a president. Um. Yeah, well this is

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Speaker 1: a big deal because of the timing and the and

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Speaker 1: the and the political impact that it could potentially have.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's probably the bigger deal about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean that was Yeah, that's that's rough news.

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Speaker 1: And I definitely I would definitely, um look up some

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Speaker 1: of her her opinions, whether she you know, helped move

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Speaker 1: n C double along, help move women's sports along, or

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Speaker 1: or even you know, came out and blocked some stuff

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Speaker 1: that that that could have potentially um moved moved the

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Speaker 1: uh the sport forward. I would definitely educate yourself on

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Speaker 1: on on where she intersected with sports, um, because it

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Speaker 1: it's definitely, um, I mean whether it's basketball, football, you know,

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Speaker 1: even pro wrestling, all that stuff. You know, when there's disputes,

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Speaker 1: it all, it all ends up in front of her.

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Speaker 1: So um, you know that it's just definitely a very

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Speaker 1: very influential and cornerstone personality in uh, in modern American culture. UM.

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Speaker 1: And I think even like even horse racing, you know,

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Speaker 1: she's uh, she she's had decisions regarding that as well.

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Speaker 1: So UM yeah, I mean that's that's rough news, and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's really an interesting time for for

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Speaker 1: the country, uh in general, because we're a couple of

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Speaker 1: months away from an election, and perhaps that will take

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Speaker 1: the president's attention off of the Big ten and the

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve and and put it towards the Supreme Court. Right.

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Speaker 1: And if you thought that this year had been contentious

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Speaker 1: already put politically, wait for the next month and a half,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, or or even after. Um. All right, thank

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Speaker 1: you guys for listening to the Pack twelve apostles. Peace out,

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Speaker 1: Catch you guys next emergency episode if we need one.