1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome inside the Dan Patrick Show 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith, Doug Gottlieb in 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: for Dan and the dan Ets. Hope you had a 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: wonderful Fourth of July weekend. If I know you, Doug. 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: It was an all day barbecue on Saturday that ended 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: about three minutes before we started the show today. Uh, yeah, 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: we uh we had a fifth of July was actually 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: wilder than Fourth of July. But yeah, it was good. 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: AT's a good weekend. I mean, just I was thinking 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: yesterday I was talking to my brother and he's he 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: and his my nephew are staying in our house. And 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: it's been three and a half months since we had 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: like real legit live sports. They about three and a 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: half months. And I'm not trying to de legitimize NASCAR 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: and golf and stuff, which is really fun and Bryson 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Deshambo and uh, you know, but like three and a 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: half months. Just it's crazy. But yeah, it was good. 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: How about yours was your fourth kid? Yeah? Yeah, fourth 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: was good. We had Uh we had a barbecue with 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: with friends who was just us in another family that 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: we hadn't seen in a while, and you know everybody, 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, everybody went through the Hohle Hazer, butody'd been okay, 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: everybody been good, and you know, the families are it's 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: like we're exchanging information like it's a negotiation. So you 26 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: guys have been good. What have you guys been doing. Oh, 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: you guys have been by yourself most of the time. Okay, great, 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: we'll check that box. All right, we got here, we 29 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: got this, We got this, and it was a lot 30 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: of fun, you know, it was. I mean fifth of 31 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: July was kind of spent recovering from the Fourth of July. 32 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: But uh, I don't know. I mean, I'm not a 33 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: baller like you or I can go Fourth of July 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: and then go, let's go big on the fifth. Well, 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean we didn't when doing it like fourth Giant. 36 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: Like we live in a not not we live five 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: minutes from the beach or so, but we're not on 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: the beach or um. But when the beach is closed, 39 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: like Fourth of July is you go do the beach 40 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: or you do a pool, right or you know, some 41 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: sort of cookout. We don't have a pool. And so 42 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: actually we have some friends who were at another friend's 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: house and they're like, hey, come use the pool. So 44 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: we actually went and use somebody else's pool and then 45 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: I I grilled, and then you know, it was today. 46 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: The interesting part was, you know, so many fireworks displays, 47 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: at least in southern California were canceled, and yet it 48 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: seemed like there were more fireworks than there ever are 49 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: in spite of the fact they're not canceled, but in 50 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: our city they're actually illegal, and yet there were more 51 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: fireworks than ever. It was. It was. It was quite interesting. 52 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: It was. It was a constant rat a tat from 53 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: right around the time it got dark until like three 54 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: in the morning, Like there wasn't a time where you 55 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: couldn't hear it was. It was insane. I'm sitting there going, 56 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how we have all this, And then 57 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: you see the videos that that come out that come 58 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: out on Sunday night, because obviously Los Angeles was the 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: big center of the illegal fireworks displays, and we wound 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: up having the worst air in the world yesterday because 61 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: of it, because of the aftermath of the fourth of 62 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: all the illegal fireworks, like our aqui whether it was 63 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: like a two hundred and like all the other cities 64 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: that have like all bad pollution, like Shanghai was like 65 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: at one forty. You know, all these other cities across 66 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: the across the globe. It was like, boy, they have 67 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: bad air and they really have a lot of smog. 68 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: Now we were at like two hundred yesterday, so it 69 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: was like, maybe today is a good day to kind 70 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: of stay inside and just kind of let the let 71 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: the fireworks atmosphere burn itself off for a little bit. 72 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: But it was I mean I couldn't get over it. 73 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean I felt like this year more than anything 74 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: because of the you know, obviously the lack of of 75 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: being able to go out and do things with whether 76 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: it's going to the beach or legal Fourth of July 77 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: fireworks displays where people would go, you know, you'd go 78 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: to see something. I think that contributed to all of it. 79 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: Is just like screw it, We're just gonna put on 80 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: as many fireworks as possible. And I don't know how 81 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: you kept track of it. I don't know how the 82 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: police kept track of it. But it was just you know, 83 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: one of those nights where it was okay, wow, this 84 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: is like the most over the top Fourth of July 85 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: fireworks wise, it I could ever remember in my life 86 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: was crazy. Yep, yep, it was in fact nuts. And 87 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: we continue into this week and I hope you're having 88 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: a good Monday so far. We got big stuff in 89 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: the end, be a to talk about as we have 90 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: teams closing their practice facilities because of COVID as they 91 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: get ready to report to the Orlando Bubble the first 92 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: weekend in Major League Baseball with we had players work 93 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: out and thankfully Massiro Tanaka is okay after getting that 94 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: line drive off the head at summer training. I guess 95 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: we have to say on Saturday, but when Doug, when 96 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: you and I got off the air on Friday, are 97 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: our shows. The Washington Redskins name controversy was just really 98 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: starting to get to the next level. And now we're 99 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: at the point where early this morning, the three minority 100 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: owners of the Washington Redskins want to sell their shares 101 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: in the team because they are quote not happy being 102 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: a partner with owner Daniel Snyder. This coming from the 103 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: Washington Post, as they are citing sources familiar with the deliberations. 104 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: Right now, Daniel Snyder is talking with head coach Ron 105 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: Rivera about a potential name change. You've seen some of 106 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: the big names that have been thrown out there this weekend. 107 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: Redtails is a very popular one, so are Americans. And 108 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: it seems like this is you know, once Friday hit 109 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: and FedEx said, hey, we're not going to sponsor the team, 110 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: we'd like you to change the name. That they didn't 111 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: actually say that. Well, they they they wanted them to 112 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: change that to change and the right well, well, this 113 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: is a really important distinction here. Oh, look, I do 114 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: believe they're going to change the name. I also believe 115 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: that this is as has been reported, it's more than 116 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: a month in the works, like people hopping on it um. 117 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things is Dan Steinders. 118 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't believe he's in the country. The only one 119 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: in the country is Ron Rivera, and so you know, 120 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: he's left a kind of an empowering position but also 121 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: a really interesting position for him. But it's a it's 122 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: an important distinction that FedEx didn't demand. They didn't say 123 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: we're pulling the month they asked. And there's there's a 124 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: very which is, look, look what we do this thing 125 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: to where one plus one must equal two. But if 126 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: you actually look at it, I don't believe. I believe 127 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: that there's a couple of different possible reasons why. First 128 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: of all, like the story coming out if the if 129 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: you think that the minority owners of the Washington Redskins, 130 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: whom you've never heard of, by the way, want to 131 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: change the name and that's why they're selling, that doesn't 132 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: make any sense because the name is likely to be changed. 133 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: And so if they really wanted to win out of 134 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: these things, they were like, look, we're gonna sell our 135 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: shares unless unless you change the name. That's not what happened. 136 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: So they're selling right now. It means one of two things. 137 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: One they're just unhappy with doing business with Dan Steiner, 138 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: which is altogether possibility. Or two, they don't want the 139 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: name changed and they think it's ridiculous. And because he 140 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: has acquiesced to the powers that be into FedEx's request 141 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: and I believe Nike's request, that then they're going to 142 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: sell sell their shares. The sentence that FedEx put out 143 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: was thus quote, we have communicated to the team in 144 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: Washington are quest that they change the team name. That's 145 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: all we've really heard from FedEx. It was it was 146 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: an ask, but it's it's more of a hey, hey, 147 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: you know we we we we write a big check 148 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: and we would we would like you to change the name. Now, 149 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: this latest part of the controversy. If if what you're saying, 150 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: the second part obviously one doing business with Daniel Snyder. 151 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: I completely get that because that's you know, listen, you've 152 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: seen the way Daniel Snyder is has done things the 153 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: pastor years. He has had critics, and this is stuff. 154 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: If it's behind the scenes that we don't know about, 155 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, how how the sausage gets made, that's something different. 156 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna, if you're gonna say we want 157 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: to sell the team because we don't like the fact 158 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: you're changing the name, then what does what does that 159 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: say about you? I mean, you're still the owner of 160 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: the whatever the Washington football team is going to become. 161 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: You know, you're still the owner of this team. It's 162 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: not like restantly going out of business. They not like, yeah, okay, 163 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: well we we want out because you're going to change 164 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: the name. I don't get why that would be the 165 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: reason why they if that's the reason why they want 166 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: to do it, I really I really can't understand why 167 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: that's what we're drawing the line at this now. Oh okay, 168 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: well it's still gonna be the same business, still the same. 169 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: It's a massive it's a massive change. Now. The upside 170 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: would be you would sell immediately, You would probably sell 171 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: a substantial amount of merchandise because it's a new team name. 172 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: But historically, you change your name, you run the risk 173 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: of losing uh, losing significant footing because you change and 174 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: it just changes. You know, you you there's a disconnect 175 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: with history, and the history of the Washington Redskins as 176 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: a football team is quite good, right for first of all, Like, 177 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: and I'm interested in your opinion because I do actually 178 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: think it's a discussion. I don't when when the Washington 179 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: Redskins were, when it was created, the name redskin wasn't 180 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: in any way thought to be or deemed to be 181 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: or intended to be not only controversial, but a negative 182 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: or a slur even, right, which is what it's it's 183 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: it's made out to be. Would would you agree with 184 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: that as as it has been olds? I wasn't there, 185 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: but everything we have read that's accurate. Right, It wasn't 186 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: like that it's been. It was their their honor, what 187 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: their desire, was to honor Native Americans. We're gonna name 188 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: our team and other teams in the country in college football, 189 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: in high school their nicknames have been the Redskins for 190 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: a long time as well. Yeah. Sure, And so what 191 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: what's happened is we've we've taken this, Hey, this must 192 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: be a slur because it's red skin, and we have 193 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: determined that it's a slur. Now, there's various polls of 194 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: Native Americans, and some show a change in their view 195 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: of of of of the word redskin. Um. But like, 196 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: we don't. We don't take anything else as a literal term, right, 197 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: like we just we don't. We don't. The Pittsburgh Pirates 198 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: aren't a literal celebration of pirate culture. They're just not. 199 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: This is true. The Minnesota Vikings, Vikings raped in pillage. 200 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: We don't take that as a We take it as 201 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: honoring the heritage of the Vikings and being great warriors. 202 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: Like they sing hail to the Redskins, the redskin. The 203 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: Native American on the side of the helmets looks like 204 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: a proud warrior. I don't like, I think it's actually 205 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: think it's one of these And I know Mike Wise 206 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: and the Washington Post has been on this, on this, 207 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: This has like been his lifelong fight that somehow this 208 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: solves the issues of what we've done to Native Americans, 209 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: and this is a slur and a blight. I think 210 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: it's a mistake. I think we're wiping away, potentially wiping 211 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: away any sort of Native American references from sports when 212 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: the references in sports are that of a proud heritage 213 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: and culture that fought for their land valiantly. They were 214 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: just overwhelmed by numbers and by weaponry, right, Like, I 215 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: just I don't know, I don't I kind of again, 216 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: I'm not Native American. I can't tell people how to think, 217 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: but I just I'm I don't understand it. I really don't. Well, 218 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: this is this is I'm see. I'm on the opposite 219 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: side of you, Jason Smith, Gottlieb here on Fox Is. 220 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: I get it. I get that in the beginning, Hey, 221 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: we wanted to come up with a nickname to honor 222 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: Native Americans. Okay, great, and we've seen that throughout throughout sports. 223 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: But as we've seen, especially in the past, you know, 224 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: few weeks and months, is that just because something was 225 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: always accepted doesn't mean it was always a great idea. 226 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: You know, the Confederate flag was accepted in NASCAR up 227 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: until NASCAR finally said, Okay, we understand that there's many 228 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: people in the South that look at this flag as 229 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: a symbol of their freedom and the early parts of 230 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: our country, and I get that. But for many people 231 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: it's also a symbol of slavery. So we need to 232 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: do away with that. And just because it was accepted 233 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: for the longest time, it doesn't mean that it was 234 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: always a great idea. And in the ensuing years you 235 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: have seen historians and Native American groups come out with hey, listen, 236 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: just so you know, there is a history of the 237 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: of the term redskins being racially divisive, and you would, 238 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: you would site, you would, you would cite different reports 239 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: as well. This report is about just being able to 240 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: frame us with the color of our skin. As we've seen, 241 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: that is a bad idea and that is not something 242 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: that you should do. Also, that the term had to 243 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: do with what people thought about them Native Americans in 244 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: a derogatory term, as far as being offered a penance 245 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: for their or money for their scalps. You know, back 246 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: in the early parts the United States, as some historians 247 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: have say, this was in newspapers here in the United 248 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: States years ago, so in the in the ensuing years, 249 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: there has been more retay, you know, just so you know, 250 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: this is part of what it is as well. And 251 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: you can talk to many Native Americans who and Daniel 252 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: Snyder has put up many polls throughout the time, as 253 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: as Redskins owners saying watching Redskins owner saying, hey, look 254 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: meant many people like it. Yeah, I get there are 255 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: some people that don't like it, but many people like this, 256 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: and so we're gonna keep Luta, keep this as the nickname, 257 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: even though as time has gone on you have seen 258 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: more evidence that well, maybe it's not quite the the 259 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: answer and the honoring of the heritage that you think 260 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: it is. But I think more than anything else, it's 261 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder his long his long standing just refusal to 262 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: even talk about it. It's been no, this is the name, 263 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: and we're not changing it, and this is it. This 264 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: is why we're doing it. We're moving on and it's done. 265 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: And he has been able to close the door on 266 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: it for so long and not be even open to 267 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: debate on it. And I think that's really what's pushed 268 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: what's made this continue to push going, hey, you gotta 269 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: listen to us, you gotta listen to us, and think 270 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: about this. And now suddenly here's you know, FedEx saying 271 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: we'd like you to change the name, and other uh 272 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: companies have done it as well. Nike stops selling. But 273 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: here's here's a little bit. Here's here. This is what 274 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: we're this is what we're doing. Okay, we're you're tearing 275 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: down at Christopher Columbus statue. Y are we gonna? Are 276 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: we gonna change the name from why in DC? Because 277 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: George Washington owned slaves, you know, even though he was 278 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: part of the Declaration of Independence, which, even though he 279 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: owned slaves, clearly wanted to do away with slavery. Like 280 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: we were doing this thing where we're taking the bad 281 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: and making it that's who somebody is where you have 282 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: you have to take. It's like everybody has a ratio 283 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: in this world, right, a good to bad ratio, and 284 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: the overall ratio of good to bad with Redskins is 285 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: actually really really good. I mean, I honestly believe if 286 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: the Redskins were better, there'd be a lot more pride 287 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: in the redskin name. In Native American culture, and if 288 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder wasn't viewed as such a jerk, then it 289 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: would be he would be viewed differently. But because he 290 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: has for a myriad of reasons, right, he famously charged 291 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: people uh to watch training camp, which which obviously you 292 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: know that hadn't been done by previous ownership. Like, there's 293 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: plenty of things and we as the media, have villainized him. 294 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: So this has become the redskin nickname about him, even 295 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: though he heroded it when he bought the team, and 296 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: the name and the logo is iconic with the National 297 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Football League. Like I just we we do this thing 298 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: to where we take that if there's any bit of bad, 299 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: well then it overwhelms the good. Look. I understand that 300 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: if you read it there you can take it as 301 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: a negative term, But the idea that it's a slur 302 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: like not really, it's not used in anyone's common language. 303 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: No one uses that, even Native Americans on their land, 304 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: they don't use it, and we definitely don't use it. 305 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: It's not people make it out to be a slur 306 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: like there are other racial or anti Semitic slurs. It's 307 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: not because it's not actually used. Nobody, nobody calls somebody 308 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: a redskin, like that's just not in common culture. And 309 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: we all do know that it wouldn't have ever become 310 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: a nickname in the NFL, even during the less sensitive 311 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: times of you know, the nineteen what is a fifty 312 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: forties or fifty thirties if it wasn't for the idea that, hey, 313 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: we want to honor a culture and we can't just 314 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: pick one Native American group because that would tick off 315 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: other Native American groups. So we just all lump them together. 316 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: And at the time they said, let's just use the 317 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: term redskin. That's basically what happened, and we all kind 318 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: of accept that's what happened, and that's the intent of it, 319 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: and we're like, we're doing this thing where I understand 320 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: the tomahawk chop could be deemed like, what are we 321 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: doing here? Is this insensitive? But I think we all 322 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: know it's just it's like a war chant and it 323 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: fires up a crowd, and it doesn't mock Native Americans. 324 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: None of this mocks like the whole thing is you 325 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: want to take away from mocking a culture, it doesn't 326 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: really it doesn't mock a culture. I don't think anyone 327 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: argues that we're arguing whether or not the term is offensive. 328 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: And I guess you can take offense. You can definitely 329 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: take offense to it. But there's lots of things you 330 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: can take offense too. And so we're going to create 331 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: this world where every team is the Wildcats and the 332 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: Lightning and things that you know that that can't push back, 333 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: which I guess is okay. But I actually look at 334 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: Native American culture. It's a pretty amazing thing, as you know, 335 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: a really interesting, interesting group of people that we don't 336 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: know enough about even today. And the more we take it, 337 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: the more we take away these nicknames and these iconic figures, 338 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: the less we remember about what their culture was about that. 339 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: So anyway, I'll just add this one other piece. We 340 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 1: of course, it becomes about Dan Sneyder, and part of 341 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: the article that says the four minority owners or whatever 342 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: want out is because they've done business with Dan Sneyder 343 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: my ex brother in law. It's my sister's ex husband. 344 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: His family was a minority owner with the Oakland Raiders 345 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: and I can only tell you and they were hit. 346 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: My ex brother in law's grandpa was Al Davis's original 347 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: partner with the Raiders and he played for the Red 348 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: Sox and they partnered together with the team back in 349 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: the a f L days into the NFL. I can 350 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: tell you without it beyond a reasonable doubt that the 351 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: life of a minority partner in the National Football League 352 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: is one where you're never happy because you really don't 353 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: have any say, you don't make any money. And you 354 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: know within a reason, because there are some majority owners 355 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: that treat partners like partners, but most of them they 356 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: own the team. You're throwing the money and the only 357 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: way you benefit basically and saying, hey, I get to 358 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: own part of the team, and if we win a 359 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I get a ring. But you still have 360 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: to pay for everything like a box. You don't get 361 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: to travel with the team, you're not on TV. There's 362 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: really very You end up finding out like very little 363 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: benefit until the day you sell when you make a 364 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: good amount of money. On the other hand, you no 365 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: longer own can say you own a part of the 366 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: Nation Football League. So, like the minority owners, being upset 367 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: in the Nation Football League is very very very normal. 368 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Being happy with not having a say in an investment 369 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: you have is actually abnormal. Yeah, this would be the 370 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: second set of partners that Snyder has had that he 371 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: has now cycled through since since he bought the team, 372 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: and you know, so now that's something that's going to 373 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: be put on the spot. Okay, why is this? And 374 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: one of the partners, Fred Smith, is a guy supposedly 375 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: that he gets along with great and he really likes him, 376 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: and and a all right, we get and that. Now 377 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: this is now the next phase of Okay, now I'm 378 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: I'm dealing with the change of the name, and now 379 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: the minority owners want to sell and it's you know, 380 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder's out of the country, and it's oh wow, 381 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: this is just all coming together really really fast. But 382 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: it is signed of a freight train that got out 383 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: of control over the course of the span of forty 384 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: eight seventy two hours. Uh. Doug and I will have 385 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: more on this continuing on here. Jason Smith, Doug Gottlieb 386 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: in for Dan the Danetts Today, Twitter at how about 387 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: a Fresca Doug at Gottlieb Show. We got Adam Kaplan 388 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: coming up in a couple of minutes. Fox Sports one 389 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: NFL Insider, we'll get his thoughts on this. And Colin 390 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: Kaepernick put out a statement a day ago on the 391 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: fourth of July. We'll find out if he's any close 392 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: just signing with an NFL team. Keep it right here, 393 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show. This is Fox Sports Radio. Be 394 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick 395 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on 396 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeart Radio wapp Fox Sports Radio, 397 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith. Doug got lead in 398 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: for Dan and the Dan Nets, and we got more 399 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: on the Washington Redskins name controversy. We got Colin Kaepernick. 400 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: But Doug first, real quick, you're ready to feel old? Sure, 401 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: you're ready to feel old? Yeah, Huey Lewis turned seventy yesterday. 402 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Huey Lewis is seventy years old. I think Zion Williamson 403 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 1: being twenty years old, it gives me the today. By 404 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: the way, happy birthday to Zion Williamson. Can't wait to 405 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: see you play here. End of the month in in 406 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: Orlando in the bubble, which I know you're a convert to. 407 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: Is the your bubble convert but bubble convert to that. Yeah, yeah, 408 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: Huey Lewis is seventy. I honestly I actually believe Huey 409 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: Lewis is seventy. That doesn't that doesn't surprise me. It 410 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: is hip to be square, though maybe if you still 411 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: wearing the sunglasses and the black T shirt and the jeans. 412 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: You know, Huey Lewis is still rolling seventy years old. 413 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 1: The latest on the Washington Redskins nickname controversy hit us 414 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: early this morning as two minority owners in the Washington 415 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: Redskins football team, who own up to forty percent of 416 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: the team now are interested in selling their stakes in 417 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: the franchise, joining us now on the hotline Fox Sports 418 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: one NFL Inside. Are you been hearing him here with 419 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: us for a long time? And second time I've got 420 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: to talk to him during the day in the past 421 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: week or so. It's Adam Kaplan. Check him out on 422 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: Serious XM NFL as well. Good morning, Adam. What's happening. 423 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Guy's good to talk to you. Yeah, the Redskins situation, 424 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with the name and with the 425 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: owner of the minority ownership, certainly interesting that it's taking 426 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: another turn. But when you look at it around the league, first, 427 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: the big thing is going to be the name and 428 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: getting that changed as soon as possible. And you see 429 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: all these sponsors who are starting to pull out. That 430 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: is why this sink is gonna be expedited. How long 431 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: has it's been in the works. They've been a talk 432 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. The league has um dugged 433 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: it to kind of look at it that way. But once, 434 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: once you look at sponsorship, when Nukie goes on record 435 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: and saying that they're not going to sell the merchandise, 436 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: you're you're gonna have to You're gonna have to take 437 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: note because if you go back several years ago, there's 438 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: actually seven years ago, Daniel Snyder and the controversy came 439 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: up with a team name, Daniel Snyder is defined. He 440 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: said he would never change it, and he said to 441 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: the to the USA today, he could put that in 442 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: caps and put it in print. So he's been defiant. 443 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: But there were no threats really that came out in 444 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: terms of the name change. And now you have it 445 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: seven years later and things obviously have changed, and you 446 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: could you could bet on this one. This is going 447 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: to happen because when NFL owners lose money from sponsorship, 448 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: and when when FedEx threatens to pull out Fred Smith, 449 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: who's the chairman of FedEx, and by the way Fred 450 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: spends the guy that there's some people are in the 451 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: league thought that he would wind up buying the Titans. 452 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: That turn out not to happen. But here's the guy 453 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: that's been with the Redskins for a long time, and 454 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: I've been a partner with a minority partner with Daniel Schnyder. 455 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: When he threatens to pull out, you got to take 456 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: note of that. Okay, So is there a way in 457 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: which they can actually because because the intent and Adam 458 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: he made disagree. But I do believe the intent of 459 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: the name is a good one. Right. The intent of 460 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: the name is, or at least one was created, was 461 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: to honor Native marin culture and that's what they try 462 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: to do. Is there a way in which they can 463 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: still do that and change the nickname? That's that's the 464 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: hard part. Yeah, Okay, So here's the thing that this 465 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: is my understanding of late last week. If they can 466 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: they'd like to keep the color scheme, the burgundy and gold, 467 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: that that that they'd like to do. That would be 468 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: the only compromise they could come up with. The names 469 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: gould have to changers. There's no other way around it. 470 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: They will lose a tremendous amount of money, and when 471 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: you lose money, owners start worrying, so that'll get changed. 472 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: But the key here is they'd like to keep the 473 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: color scheme, and then they obviously have to come up 474 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: with a new name. What's the name going to be 475 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: and how can they make it work with a color scheme. 476 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: It's it's obviously challenging at this late date. You know 477 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: you'd like to do it. If you're going to do it, 478 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: you'd like to do it earlier in the offseason, especially 479 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: when we've got training camps opening in just a couple 480 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: of weeks here. So those are the challenges now with 481 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: the Washington team name. How much of this I don't 482 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: want to say it could have been avoided, but could 483 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: things have gone easier had Daniel Snyder just a little 484 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: bit seemed like he was listening to concerns instead of 485 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: being as defiant as he's been, because that's really what 486 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: has kept this going for a long time, because we've 487 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: had this. This is not a new story, this is 488 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 1: a few years old. But the fact that he's been 489 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: so no, this is it and there's no conversation about it. 490 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: I can see where that's just going to piss people off. 491 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: You're right, and I'm glad you brought it up because 492 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: his reputation when I worked on the story many years ago. 493 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: So it got to the point they wanted to not 494 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: only do they not want to change the name, they 495 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: were looking for anyone who would back them to keep it, 496 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: and he would. They were they were going out of 497 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: their way, uh, their their their media staff, their communication 498 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: staff to find anyone would back them to keep the name. 499 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, there's been a disagreement obviously of whether it's 500 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: offensive or not, as Doug brought up. But the fact 501 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: of the matter is this is nothing new. And the 502 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: reason why that that you know, center is not spoken publicly, 503 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: but they put a statement out um where they're they're 504 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: going to review it. What they're going to do more 505 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: than review it, you can bet on that. That's really 506 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: the only thing we know that that I feel strongly about, 507 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: is that it's going to change. And then obviously it's 508 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: got that you've got the minority ownership issue, which has 509 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: been well detailed by Washington Post and Pro Football Talk. 510 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: So it's bad and this is not what you want 511 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: when we've got what we're dealing with it as a 512 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: country oh, ka get, let's get the actual football. Cam 513 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: Newton is in New England. He is working out. I 514 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: mean he looks like Cam Newton. And if you ever 515 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: seen Cam Newton in person, Greek gods think Cam Newton 516 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: is impressive to look at. But I mean, like, look 517 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: the the NFL people. I've talked to you and obviously 518 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan Fox Sports radio series XM NFL Insider joining 519 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: us here on the Dan Patrick Show. Um, I was 520 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: told like, look, the big issue is his shoulder, a 521 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: little bit his ankle and his foot that that he 522 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: had an issue with last year. But but so many 523 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: in the media and especially fans, think of Cam Newton 524 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: as twenty fifteen Cam Newton and the two shoulder surgeries 525 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: and how he was throwing the ball post surgery last 526 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: year was the biggest reason that he was still on 527 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: the street. Do we have any idea about the shoulder? No, 528 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: the reason why Cam took along the sign. First of all, 529 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: you're coming about two injury plague gears and as a 530 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: matter of fact, the two rotator cuff was to year injury. 531 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: Then you throw in the list franc injury, which is 532 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: a very bad broken foot nine to twelve month rehab. 533 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: He had all that up, and he's having trouble finding 534 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: a starting job. If he was willing to take a 535 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: backup job, he would have signed three or four months ago. Now, 536 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: what I'm told internally is the Patriots, you're selling us 537 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: this competition, but the reality is he's going to wind 538 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: up playing and whether it's week one or four. Now, 539 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: I could also tell you that Josh McDaniel's offense is 540 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: very difficult to learn. You're asking him to learn it 541 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: in a matter of three weeks just from the playbook 542 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: and then obviously applying it to training camp. That's not 543 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: going to be easy. In a shortened preseason, we don't 544 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: know exactly. It's either going to be zero or two 545 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: preseason games we're going to have. The shoulder was a 546 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: two year issue, not a one year issue. And you wonder, 547 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: I know he's only thirty one, that's not old quarterback years, 548 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: but you wonder if he's going to be the same player. 549 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: His weight is really down. If you remember Doug his weight, 550 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: he was over two sixty some years ago, and then 551 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: then he lost a whole lot of weight and he 552 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: got himself in a better physical shape. He's got a 553 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: lot to prove here, there's no question about it. But 554 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: a healthy Cam is what they're looking for. I would 555 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: I would agree with one thing though he said. With 556 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: his shoulder, I don't know that he's quite the same thrower. 557 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: And remember accuracy. He's never been a highly accurate quarterback. 558 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of physical arm strength. I don't 559 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: know if he's quite the same, but he's close. Adam 560 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: Kaplan with US Fox Sports one NFL Inside. You check 561 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: him out on serious XM NFL radio as well. All right, 562 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: Cap from Cam Newton to another quarterback who is still, 563 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, looking for what his next destination would be. 564 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, Newton's found his team with the Patriots Colin Kaepernick. 565 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: This weekend made some news denouncing Fourth of July celebrations, 566 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: But you know, a couple of weeks ago it was hey, 567 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: CAP's coming back into the league and the door is 568 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: open for him. Team should sign him. Is he really 569 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: going to wind up on a team at some point? 570 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Let's put it this way, there's some interest in him. 571 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: No one I'm told as of this morning, has set up, 572 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: and obviously a visit or a workout when players allowed 573 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: to visit, which will be once camps open on the 574 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: twenty eighth. Yeah, I quite Frankly, I'm not completely sold 575 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: that this is going to happen. There needs to be 576 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: one team that's going to be on front and say, 577 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: you know what, we know he's a backup quarterback. We 578 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: need someone who is experienced. But there's not been one 579 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: team that's been willing to say that this whole time. 580 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: There's just teams are Look, the Chargers put him on 581 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: the emergency list. We know that. I do know this. 582 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: He's working on five days a week. He has not 583 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: given up in his willingness to play and wanting to play. 584 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: And he's a backup quarterback. I think that's the thing 585 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: that has been missed here. He's not a starting quarterback 586 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: at this point. He comes in if he ever gets 587 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: signed and it competes for the number two job. That's 588 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: where he is. He's not old, and he's in great 589 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: physical shape. I'm also told so he's available, he's ready, 590 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: but not one team. Jason answer your question is said, absolutely, 591 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: we're doing this. I do know there's some interest and 592 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: teams are having information on do you think his tweet 593 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: from yesterday where he he he posted part of a 594 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: video James Earl Jones reading a famous Frederick Douglas piece 595 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: from eighteen fifties, but saying, you know that that the 596 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: fourth July is a white supremacist holiday, celebration of white supremacy. 597 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: Do you think that affects in any way the ability 598 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: or desire for an NFL team to sign him. Yeah, 599 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: I have no idea, to be honest with you on 600 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: that one. I haven't talked to any teams about that yet. 601 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: I've just kind of engaging their willingness to bring him 602 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: in and take a look and an interview him and 603 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: sit him down. That's really see. That's the thing, Doug. 604 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 1: The issue going back some years was does he really 605 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: want to play football? Well that that one was solved. 606 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: Who was obviously wants to play. The question was what 607 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: kind of what kind of role would he be wanting 608 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: to take, because he's clearly a backup quarterback Churst point. 609 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: If he's willing to do that, then more teams are 610 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: gonna be more willing. But until you see him down 611 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: you get comfortable with him, it's just not going to happen. 612 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: There's to this point again, there's not been one team 613 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: that said, okay, you know what let's let's bring him in, 614 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk to them to send him down, just have 615 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: him for a visit and see where he's at. And 616 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: it has not happened yet, Antonio Brown likelihood that he 617 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: signs with the team before he will play again. Doug, 618 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: He's going to play again. Now here's the issue. You 619 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: have the potential, a high potential of him being suspended. 620 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: The issue now as teams cannot do their investigations because 621 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: of COVID. You know you're not gonna you just things 622 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: are slowing down in that area. So they've got to 623 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: get up to that point. And I sternly, I strongly 624 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: see him signing with the team eventually down the line. 625 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: It could be for the playoffs or who knows, but 626 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: it's going to be a team that is going to 627 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: win as a chance to go pretty far because you 628 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: also need a strong locker room and a strong head 629 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: coach who knows how to handle him. John Gruden is 630 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: obviously a strong personality. It didn't work out there, but 631 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: the blief rendal league is that he's going to play again, 632 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: because you're talking about even if he never plays again, Doug, 633 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: he will be a Hall of Famer. That that that's 634 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: nine in question. If you look at the numbers. He's 635 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: also only thirty one years old, and he's got a 636 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: lot of football left. He's healthy. Just a matter of 637 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: get he's got to get cleared off the field, and 638 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: then he's another player you've got to bring into your 639 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: building to see if you really want him. He's on 640 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: Twitter at Kaplan NFL. That is at Kaplan NFL. Ac 641 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: as always appreciate your time, My friend will talk soon, 642 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: have fun, guys. Thank you all right, great stuff there 643 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: from Adam Kaplan as always a little more dubious on 644 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Kaepernick getting back in is Antonio Brown. And you know 645 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: the thing about Cap Doug is that this tweet yesterday, Okay, 646 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: you know Colin Kaepernick is talking about what wanting to 647 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: stand up for what he's talking about in American history. 648 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: And I get that part of it. I don't think 649 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: a tweet like this is something that teams are going 650 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: to be upset about. I think what teams are nervous about, 651 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: and I think this is a big moment where teams decided, Okay, 652 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: we're out on Cap. Nick. Is that remember back when 653 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: the when the Ravens were going to sign him and 654 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: there was that dance going on that maybe they were 655 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: going to and ray Lewis had talked about signing Colin 656 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: Kaepernick and and there have been a whole big Steve Bishotti, 657 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: this may be the one. And when things didn't seem 658 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: like they were progressing, what happened? His girlfriend put up 659 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: a photo of ray Lewis with his arm around Steve 660 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: Bishotti next to Leonardo DiCaprio and Sam Jackson from Django Unchained, 661 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: where Leo was a was a slave owner. And you know, 662 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: the minute that went up, I think team said, okay, 663 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: don't we don't want to deal with this on an 664 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: Idol Tuesday for some reason, you know, so whatever, So 665 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: don't I don't know about this because we're not going 666 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: to sign a guy. And suddenly, for whatever reason, something 667 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: doesn't go right. He's not on the field, he's not 668 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: playing something that we have to deal with this and 669 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: then it becomes a bigger story than we want to 670 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: go through. So I think actually that was the moment 671 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: where team said, Okay, you know what, I don't know 672 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: that this is something that we want to deal with 673 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: because we don't know if he's going to be a 674 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: star at that at that point, if he was coming in. 675 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: It was going to be a guy that's, hey, you're 676 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 1: our franchise quarterback. That's a different story. But this guy 677 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: coming in, it was going to be a backup that 678 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: we didn't nobody who was going to see the field. 679 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: I think that was the moment where teams decided, Okay, 680 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: I don't know about Kaepernick. Well, um I would, I would, 681 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: I agree and I disagree. I do think those were 682 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: That was one of the seminal moments that we uh 683 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: that that many curiously omit. Right, I don't think it 684 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: was about the league. I think it was about Baltimore specifically. Right, Look, 685 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: the way it works in football, it's not any different 686 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: than than the way it works in our job. Right. Uh, 687 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: Scotch piro is our is one of our bosses here. 688 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: We both worked with him when he was at ESPN, 689 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: and that familiarity has allowed us to move over here 690 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: to Fox Sports Radio. You long before I did. But 691 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: that was a that was a that's a big draw 692 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: to me, Right, is somebody I know, somebody I trust, 693 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: somebody I work with, Right, I mean that's a that's 694 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: a fair So in the NFL, if it's not any different, 695 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: you come systems become like your family. You're a football family. 696 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: They have in basketball families as well, Right, guys that 697 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: have been the Spurs organization, higher guys that have been 698 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: the Spurs organization. That's why Jack Vaughan maybe the guy 699 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: to work for Sean Marks in San Antonio. They were 700 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: teammates with the San Antonio Spurs. Greg Romans the offensive 701 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: coordinator with the Baltimore Ravens. And the success you're seeing 702 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: from Lamar Jackson in a newer version of that system 703 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: is one that he could have had success in. But 704 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: what happens is when your girlfriend puts out that meme 705 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: and the owner of the Ravens sees that, he's like, 706 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: nota no, we're not We're not signing that guy. And 707 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: so I don't know if it did it for the 708 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: rest of the league. I do know for the Ravens, 709 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: a team where he had a legitimate tie the brother 710 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: of his head coach, the same offensive coordinator in San Francisco, 711 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: I think it made Baltimore dead to him, right. He 712 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: did remember go to Seattle on a visit and they 713 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: came out saying, well, he's a starting quarterback, meaning you know, 714 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: and this is what I heard you he wanted starting 715 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 1: quarterback money, he wanted to be a starting quarterback because 716 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: he'd been a starting quarterback. He hadn't he wasn't yet 717 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: ready to make the adjustment in terms of mentality and 718 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: salary of being a backup. So I think those two 719 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: specific places were missed opportunities by Kaepernick. And I think 720 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: now it takes somebody like a Andy Reid who has 721 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: who's done that. He had this the Imager rehab with 722 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: Mike Vick. It's different, obviously, I know, from Kaepernick, and 723 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: he has a starter who no one in the world 724 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: thinks should sit for Colin Kaepernick, and then Cap could 725 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: get up to speed and understand the system and could 726 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: learn to be a backup and maybe eventually be potentially 727 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: be a starter or play somewhere else where. There's a 728 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: bunch of Andy Reid guys. I think that's the way 729 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: back to the league. But we can talk about this 730 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 1: tweet later. I think it becomes increasingly difficult to sign 731 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: a guy who who puts out things like this, which 732 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: I just feel like are incredibly divisive in nature Twitter 733 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: at how about a Fresca Doug at Gottlieb Show, Jason Smith, 734 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: Doug Gotlieb in for Dan and the dan Nets today. 735 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: As Doug said, we'll off more on that up. Speaking 736 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: of Twitter, something coming up at the about fifteen minutes 737 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: from now that's starting to make a lot of news. 738 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: But straight ahead, a big week for the NBA as 739 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: teams get set to report to the bubble. Doug doesn't 740 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: like the bubble. I'm a bubble convert. We get into 741 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: that coming up next right here. Fox Sports Radio. Fox 742 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 743 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 744 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen 745 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: live Fox Sports Radio The Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith 746 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: and Doug gott laid in for Dan and the Danets today, 747 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you, Doug, I have become what 748 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: I never thought i'd be, and that is a bubble convert. 749 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: When it comes to the NBA resuming their season, is 750 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: you know, we wake up Monday morning and find out 751 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Kings are the latest two teams 752 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: to shut down their facilities due to COVID nineteen concerns. 753 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: Teams are getting set to report to the bubble in 754 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: Orlando in the coming days and In the beginning, I 755 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: thought the bubble was an idea that sounded rate in theory, 756 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: but in practical application, I thought, while there's no way 757 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: they could do it. But now I think it may 758 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: be the only way forward because at least here in Orlando, 759 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna have the NBA in charge of everything and 760 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: keeping players out from any situation where they could contract 761 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. So I feel like having the bubble and 762 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: having the NBA being in charge of saying, all right, 763 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do, and we're gonna keep 764 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: out as many outside influences and possibilities off COVID nineteen 765 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: as possible. That's the best way forward that we could 766 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: try to stop players from contracting this and continue on 767 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: to have a season. Yeah. I mean, look, that's kind 768 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: of been my point all along, even though I'm anti 769 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm anti bubble for a completely different reason. But I 770 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: think the the professional athlete, the basketball player, especially who says, hey, 771 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not sure about the safety, Like, look, 772 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: we're in Phase you know two three, in some Phase 773 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: four across the country. So the world is not shut down. 774 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: You're actually going to a say for environment as opposed 775 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,479 Speaker 1: to being at home, So I don't I don't believe 776 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: that COVID concerns in all honesty are legitimate. When when 777 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: you say I don't want to play because that COVID concerns, 778 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe those are actually legitimate concerns because you 779 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: have the same issues with COVID when you're at home, 780 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: only you don't have the same sort of of medical 781 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: resources that you're going to have in the bubble, nor 782 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: do you have the protections of being the bubble. My 783 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: issue with the bubble is I just don't think it'll 784 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: be great basketball, or nearly the level of basketball that 785 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: the NBA should be played at. If you're going to 786 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: decide a champion three months in essentially in quarantine, playing 787 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: basketball like you're gonna end up hating each other and 788 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: you don't have a crowd, and you know it just 789 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: it will I don't believe it'll bring out the absolute best. Now, 790 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: it'll be different. There won't be home games, but there 791 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: also won't be road games, so maybe we have kind 792 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: of the old neutral site in its purest form. But yeah, 793 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: three months in a hotel, I don't think brings out 794 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: the best in any professional athletes. Well, two things I 795 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: think are going to to come off. That one is 796 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: that you're gonna see You're not gonna see the seven 797 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: game dramatic playoff series that we're used to where a 798 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: team A wins two games at home, then we go back, well, 799 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: then the team defends home court. You're gonna see four 800 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: and five game series because you're not. You're not gonna 801 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: have that that bit of hey, well that this team's 802 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: bench is gonna play better because they're coming home. And 803 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: the other thing is you're gonna have that that doesn't 804 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: work both ways. Well it does, but you're gonna have. 805 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: But the strongest team is gonna exert its will over 806 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: four or five games, over a set, over a sense 807 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: of seven games, whereas maybe they you know, a team 808 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: would take game five, but boy, you had you know, 809 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: some so and so come off the bench and score 810 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: twenty three, which was something that normally wouldn't happen. I 811 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: just think you're gonna the better teams are gonna steamroll 812 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: through the lesser teams as as far as it goes. 813 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: When when that comes, that's how I think. That's why 814 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 1: I think the playoffs are gonna be a little bit shorter, 815 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: and the series are going to be shorter than that. Well, 816 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: there's just so much unknown, like we don't Yeah, that's 817 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: that's operating under the premise that team that that inferior 818 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: teams only play well because they're playing at home, UM, 819 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: which I don't know that to be the case. I 820 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: would also say that you don't know. I don't think 821 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: there's a ton of difference between a bunch of these 822 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: teams outside of the top couple of teams. UM. And 823 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: then you also don't know how they're actually going to 824 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: perform when you have you know, guys, some guys don't 825 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: perform as well when you're in a hotel for a 826 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: couple of weeks at the start and then a couple 827 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: of months by the time we get into it. And 828 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: then the last part is like, Okay, I thought the 829 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: Lakers are training to be better than other teams in 830 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: the West, but they lose Avery Bradley. That dramatically changes 831 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: how good they are and what their ceiling is and 832 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: what they look like. So there is a lot of 833 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: unknown there. Well, And to think about this, how many 834 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: teams are showing up. We're not gonna win a championship, 835 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: We're just gonna go here for a month and then 836 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: we're out and you'll be able to tell right away that, well, yeah, 837 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: there's that are in it to win a championship. The 838 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: teams are saying, look, we're abably call one because I 839 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: have no no, no, and and and and to your point, 840 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 1: if you get down three games to none, like it's like, 841 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: let's let's get out, let's get out of here. You know, 842 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: three games to one, like, let's let's get out of here. 843 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: Like let's I understand that, But um, what what do 844 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: you like about? I like it's interesting. You know, tbt's 845 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: going on and four teams didn't even get to play 846 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: in the tournament and evererline Drive that was a that 847 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 1: a team had a buy they had one guy test positive, 848 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: so they went home. I think that the big question 849 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: is going to be, well, you know, well guys, well 850 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: let's finish more on this coming up next. We have 851 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: more on this coming up next and a big tweet 852 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: on Bubba Wallace Fox