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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Friscola. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brothers, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. What's up? Welcome into Talking Cowboys on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday. That is kind of like a Wednesday Thursday normally,

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Speaker 1: Mick both together? Is that correct? Great Wednesday? Yeah, tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: Friday and there's no Saturday. That's right, a great Wednesday Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Kent. That's Kent Garrison producing, next door, Rob

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Speaker 1: Phillips hosting for Bill Jones. Mickey Spagnola next to me

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Speaker 1: at my right, steal Brian brought us. We'll be here

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Speaker 1: shortly in a moment. We'll get what Brian brought us.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Unfortunately, Bill Jones is having to cover the

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Speaker 1: Adrian Belgira retirement announcement today. Breaking news. Huh, not just

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Speaker 1: breaking cowboys news. Bill Jones is responsible for all sports

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Speaker 1: in the DF It's breaking heart news. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: much fun did you have watching Adrian Beldira played baseball?

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Speaker 1: A lot? But you know you got to celebrate his career,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's probably a sure fire Hall of Famer, right,

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Speaker 1: I want to see him keep playing. Yeah, he's been

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Speaker 1: a great ranger. Huh yeah, I know. Yeah, he's broken

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Speaker 1: down the body, But just watching him, I wish they

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Speaker 1: would have traded him last year to the Dodgers or

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Speaker 1: some team. Give him a chance to get into the

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Speaker 1: World Series, do him a favor. I'm not sure he

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Speaker 1: wanted to go, tell you the truth, You're probably right.

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Speaker 1: He probably only wants to be a Ranger. He's already

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Speaker 1: said he if he gets to the Hall, he's wearing

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Speaker 1: a Ranger hat. He's a Texas Ranger at heart. And

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Speaker 1: I mean there was some loyal there, but it was

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Speaker 1: just so much fun. And I was just telling the

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Speaker 1: guys I think, can't hurt me. He was. He was

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Speaker 1: one of those guys that you would watch the game

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Speaker 1: just to watch him play, no matter what the team

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Speaker 1: was doing. And I would always if I knew he

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Speaker 1: was getting one more at bat, I would stay for

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Speaker 1: that at bat just to watch because you just never

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Speaker 1: knew what was going to happen. Yeah, he was too

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Speaker 1: much fun, And you're right, he's kind of Dirk like

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Speaker 1: in that oil to his team, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: getting in the Hall of Fame. He'd never got a

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Speaker 1: World Series ring. He was one strike away. Sorry Rangers fans,

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Speaker 1: did you see that Michael Young got on the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame ballot? I do, Yeah, excellent, I'd vote him

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Speaker 1: in a lot of great er Yeah, and Beltray kind

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Speaker 1: of carried over that tag as well. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: we'd be talking to Texas Rangers to start today's show up.

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Speaker 1: But you never know. You never know. That's why Bill

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Speaker 1: Jones is not here, is exactly why I'm build in

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Speaker 1: the Dallas for Worth area. That's right, he's handling that

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Speaker 1: for CBS eleven, not because he stayed up too late

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Speaker 1: Thursday night or Monday night football, whatever night it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but forever, let's let's touch on that after the first break.

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Speaker 1: Let's just let's get into some Cowboys and then we'll okay,

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Speaker 1: because I stayed up for that too. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you. I thought my wife was a big NFL fan,

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Speaker 1: and she is, but she she couldn't take any more

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Speaker 1: of it, and she's not even working this week. I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: this is the best game I've ever seen. Well, this

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Speaker 1: this is the worst part. I taped it, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't start watching it till like eight thirty, even though

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Speaker 1: I was fast forwarding all through the commercials and halftime

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Speaker 1: and end of the quarters. I think I finished watching

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Speaker 1: it at twelve thirty, maybe twelve thirty. And it's a

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Speaker 1: good thing that when I taped it, I put on

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Speaker 1: an extra show afterwards, because I would have been out

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. It was something Hi Brian, Hi, guys

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Speaker 1: saw him a little late on this program. You're fine,

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Speaker 1: like you can't. I thought that was a terrible game

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Speaker 1: last night. Let's hold on to it because I think

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Speaker 1: it's a good discussion. Okay, I know we need to

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Speaker 1: get in some Cowboys. It was. It was Highlight Park

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Speaker 1: versus Alan. I thought it was a terrible football. We've

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Speaker 1: talked Texas Rangers right off the top, because we've explained

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Speaker 1: into that. Absolutely, let's get into some Cowboys real quick.

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Speaker 1: All right, back to practice. It's gonna be a light practice.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine a shorter practice than normal. Yes, a

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Speaker 1: normal Wednesday, whatever you want to call today. Yes, um,

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Speaker 1: getting set for Thanksgiving Day. Cowboys Redskins a shaff first

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Speaker 1: We got some injury news last night. Jason Garrett had

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Speaker 1: able to address it on the walk off that Jeff

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Speaker 1: Swain broke a bone in his wrist late in the

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Speaker 1: game on that last drive when you're dove for the

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna insert a couple of screws in there

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Speaker 1: he's playing for three or four weeks. Yeah, it's kind

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Speaker 1: Without Jeff Swain, who's you know, been pretty good for sure.

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Speaker 1: you size it up, Brian, Because, like Mickey said, Dalton Schultz,

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Speaker 1: rookie Rico's finding his way as a young player. Blake

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Speaker 1: what Jeff Swain. Let's not forget special team stuff. That

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Speaker 1: it's time for Dalton Schultz. It's time for Rico Gathers.

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Speaker 1: We've seen some improvement from Rico Gathers. The guy that

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Speaker 1: Mickey's gonna Crystal bald this. I was almost positive he

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Speaker 1: Mickey did a great job telling you they're gonna play

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Speaker 1: they use camp Flemming a little bit more in this,

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Speaker 1: and maybe instead of playing uh, you know, with twelve

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Speaker 1: this is where Mickey is going down the right path.

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Speaker 1: Maybe then it turns into ten personnel where you add

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Speaker 1: they could also play a little bit more. Twenty one personnel.

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Speaker 1: We saw that. We saw them. Yeah, we saw them

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Speaker 1: they were using Rico as the tight end right, and

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Speaker 1: I could. I'm two hundred and sixty pounds. I could

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Speaker 1: push this outside linebacker. And it's gonna be really important

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Speaker 1: it really didn't establish the point of attack very well,

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Speaker 1: so you know, you better kind of figure out some things.

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Speaker 1: How do we get big bodies that could push turn

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Speaker 1: Zeke in the running game. So that's an option. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned Jumbo Cam right Mac, He's an option too. I

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Speaker 1: and he on Zeke's twenty three yard touchdown run. It

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Speaker 1: Zeke said it. He basically said, we got back to

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Speaker 1: around the corner. Got my socks on today, Yeah, Tommy

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Speaker 1: John socks. So I've got my contour. Thanks whatever today?

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Speaker 1: Thanks Miles. Ye. Best drop we have is that? Is that? That?

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Speaker 1: That says it all? Bless you, Miles, Austin. All right, u,

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Speaker 1: Kabu Texas coming to Texas, Coming to AT and T Star. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm swaying a little bit too. At and T Stadium Monday, Monday,

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Speaker 1: May tenth through twelfth, twenty nineteen. I'm gonna stop making

432
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Speaker 1: fun of you because this is a terrible read. Not

433
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Speaker 1: your typical festival, Kabu Texas offers an adult escape, uniquely

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Speaker 1: curated to appeal all five of your seventeen census when

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Speaker 1: they world class music, hilarious comedy, incredible quizue cuisine. I'm

436
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Speaker 1: gonna stop right off. When it when again? What is it?

437
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Speaker 1: And how can we get our tickets? Yeah? Just Kabu

438
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Speaker 1: Texas A T. T Stadium, May ten through twelfth, twenty nineteen.

439
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Speaker 1: Go check it out. That is the worst read in

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Speaker 1: the history of r Yes, what, well, we've got it

441
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Speaker 1: in Now we'll just call Stacy. Yeah, yeah, there we go.

442
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Speaker 1: How about that? I might hey where she's going? Yeah?

443
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: If if I want to wait, I might rally the

444
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Speaker 1: fans to get out there. We might have a little

445
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Speaker 1: fun out there in the old party line. Sure, why not, Mickey,

446
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, we get some light out there. Good time.

447
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be big time man. Yeah. They

448
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: had it out in del Mar and okay, that friend

449
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: out there and it was a beautiful location. It was Delmar.

450
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: You got the beach out there, right, Okay. I think

451
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Speaker 1: bon Jovi will play this thing. Oh hey, I'd be there,

452
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Speaker 1: given a little connection that they have to the organization.

453
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Speaker 1: Do you think so? Yeah? This Philadelphia Eagles aren't doing

454
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: very well right now, he'll be he'll be available. Yeah.

455
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: With a country western guy come out of retirement. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: George straight, George straight, Thank you. Charlotte Jones Anderson will

457
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Speaker 1: not no, no, this is gonna be worth. It's gonna

458
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Speaker 1: be worth. She will deliver the goods on We will.

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Speaker 1: We will. We will have a post draft meeting out there,

460
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Speaker 1: no question. We will have some fun, all right. Uh.

461
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: We left things at the injury front for the Cowboys

462
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: at the last break, Tyrann Smith is status in question

463
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: a little bit. What do you think? I think he's

464
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: good to go? Jerry Jerry gave him the good bit

465
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Speaker 1: of health and good doctor Joe bill of health. This

466
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Speaker 1: morning on his segment on the plane, Tyrne said, I'm good,

467
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Speaker 1: no problem. So the only thing that concerned me is

468
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: last time somebody had a stinger and he still worry

469
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Speaker 1: about it, worry about it reoccurring. But yeah, and there's sense.

470
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Speaker 1: And but I think he's good. And he seemed to

471
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Speaker 1: be in good nature on the charter flight back. Uh.

472
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Speaker 1: And I think that it's generally a pretty happy guy. Yeah,

473
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: I'm trying to us. I mean, they, I know it

474
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Speaker 1: was only kind of a walk through practice, but they

475
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Speaker 1: had him limited. But I think they feel pretty good

476
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Speaker 1: that he'll be out there. Please him. Yeah, yeah, him

477
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: and him and Leo Collins both. Yeah, this is gonna

478
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Speaker 1: be a This is gonna be a big time tussle

479
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: for those two. And they understand it. And you're on

480
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of role and you're playing for the

481
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: division and you know, my gosh, you know it's this

482
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: time of the season, you know, But they don't. They

483
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Speaker 1: didn't even have LC on the injury report, so he

484
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: should be good to go. Who else is of note?

485
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: You think, well, everybody else, let's just do this Tavon

486
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: Austin's plan. Uh, David Irving's not playing, Shawn Lee's not

487
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: we obviously, Jeff Swain's out. I think Antoine Woods is

488
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: good to go. I talked to him yesterday. He said

489
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Speaker 1: that he cleared the concussion protocol. That's a good and

490
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: that's a good He did everything they asked him to

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Speaker 1: do so. And then I think the question mark is

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Speaker 1: with Michael Gallop after the death and his family, his brother,

493
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Speaker 1: and he remained in Georgia with the family. Mom was

494
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Speaker 1: coming back from him. I mean, what could be worse?

495
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Speaker 1: She said. The mother was in Africa on a mission

496
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Speaker 1: trip and she was flying home. So that was one

497
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why they kind of were. They hadn't

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Speaker 1: told her yet. His sister told Michael after the game

499
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: was over. So tough thing for him. Uh, And they're

500
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Speaker 1: just kind of not sure where he is on returning

501
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: in time for the game or having to miss the game.

502
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: And that's always a tough thing, especially for a young guy.

503
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean he's what twenty two, twenty three years old,

504
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: just making his journey through life. Yeah, you lose one

505
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Speaker 1: of the brothers that you grew up with, you know,

506
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Speaker 1: when you get to our age, Brian and I not

507
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: including you, I mean, people start passing away, they do, right.

508
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: Glenn Fry, the owner of the Seahawks, Paul Out, it's

509
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Speaker 1: you know, it's not a shock, but when they're that young,

510
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Speaker 1: you're not used to that. So they were going to

511
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Speaker 1: stay in contact with him. Maybe they'll know a little

512
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: bit more today on just kind of what his mindset is,

513
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Speaker 1: and you know, when they have services or whatever. All

514
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Speaker 1: I know is it's somewhat happened to me when my

515
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Speaker 1: mom passed away. But my w mom passed away at

516
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Speaker 1: eighty six years old, and it was the day before

517
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in Tampa. Fortunately I was in Florida

518
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Speaker 1: for the game. She lived on the other side of

519
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Speaker 1: the state, and we did everything we can do. On

520
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday, I drove back to Tampa and covered

521
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: the game and it was kind of therapeutic, kind of

522
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: an honor to her help me in my career. There

523
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: you go. So sometimes people just react differently. You feel like, well, no,

524
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Speaker 1: I should do this. Yeah, play it's kind of a

525
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: refuge for you. Yeah, yeah, this is his family. Yeah.

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00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: You know. Jerry Jones said that in his release yesterday

527
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: that you know this is family and you know that,

528
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: and you know that again thoughts and prayers with him,

529
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: and you know, but you're right, Getting on that field

530
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: sometimes is the best thing in the world for you

531
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Speaker 1: because it gives you the opportunity to honor those that

532
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: you might have lost. And you know, if we remember back,

533
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: you know what a great play he made in the

534
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: Washington game, that double move and big, big time touchdowns.

535
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Speaker 1: So you know he realizes this. He's excited. The guys

536
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: in the locker room were excited about the opportunity, and

537
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: you know he's having to deal with this. But I'm

538
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: sure when he gets back here, there'll be a lot

539
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: of guys to put their arm around him and give

540
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: him a big hug, and he'll know that he's he's

541
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Speaker 1: in a pretty damn good place in his life to

542
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: have guys like this and coaches and front office guys

543
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: and everybody trainers and equipmentment and all that that really

544
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: would care a lot about him. Condult system, Michael and

545
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: his family for sure. He's a young guy who's really

546
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: coming along. I think is the season's gone on, Nicky's

547
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: wanted to play him from the word go, and he

548
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: is and he's playing. And I know you have two

549
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: I have to because you could just see it in

550
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: training camp. Absolutely the explosive ability that he has. He's

551
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: a smooth route runner, he's physical, and they've wanted him

552
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: to be a little bit maybe more physical, and just

553
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: go get the ball because he has that ability. His

554
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: one catch the other day might have saved that football game.

555
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: Last drive. Yeah yeah, that ten yard play he made

556
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: might have saved your season right there. And he had

557
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: some other optors. I appreciate the fact they try and

558
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: throw him the ball down the field. I really do.

559
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 1: And then all you need to know is that one

560
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: of the greatest catches he might have made was that

561
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: one where he got knocked out of bounce against Philadelphia.

562
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: That shows you what Michael Gallup is. You get Michael

563
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: Gallup the ball, he could go get it. That showed

564
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: you what he can do. You talk about a seving,

565
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: seasons saving play, I mean that screen pass that he

566
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: took on that drive, I mean it was just part

567
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: of that drive that kind of energized this whole group.

568
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: I think that touched on right before the half, right yeah.

569
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: And I think it does something to a team when

570
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: a young guy makes a play. Look at Vanderesh like

571
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: somebody you know, I mean, you know, vander Eshea. It

572
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: gets everybody going. It's like, Okay, we're getting some juice

573
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: from somewhere else. Not just the same guys all the time.

574
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: Remember what three years ago, what how Jason Witten described

575
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: playing with young Dak Prescott and young exec Elpment. You know, remember,

576
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: and does Bryant the same thing. Remember what those guys

577
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: how they felt those guy You know, Jason Witten had

578
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: been in a lot of campaigns, you know, and he

579
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: finally felt like, my gosh, these guys are giving me life.

580
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: He said, those guys keep me young. He kept saying that, yeah, yeah,

581
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: keep him young. And you know, sometimes you need a

582
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: shot in the arm with a guy that you know

583
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: can come out and come in from the draft and

584
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you really didn't know much about him.

585
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the way we cover the draft, you know

586
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: a lot about these players, but when they actually play

587
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: on your team, you're going, well, that cat's pretty special.

588
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: That cat gets it, you know. So hey, Cowboys are

589
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: four and one without you, without John Lee in the line,

590
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: and a lot of it has to do because of

591
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: what Jalen Smith, young guy they took a chance on,

592
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: and and then Layton Vanderus. So sometimes young guys will

593
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: make the difference in these games. One more thing on

594
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. I just looked up the snap count again.

595
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: He is playing more snaps than any wide receiver on

596
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: this can run all day. I mean, he's got I

597
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: think he played fifty two snaps in the game and

598
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: Mark Cooper at fifty one. And you go back the

599
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: last four games or so, I know Cooper wasn't there

600
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: for all of them. Ask for it. You guys wanted

601
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: it been playing him. Yeah, that's what you got to do. Though,

602
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: he'll make it. You'll continue to make plays too. Again,

603
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: it might be one two plays at a time, but

604
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: you're right, that screen pass, third and fifty my gosh,

605
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what you get with this kid,

606
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, And if he in fact can't play him again,

607
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: our thoughts and prayers are with him, but you know

608
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: that would be that would be a loss for the

609
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys this week. But that's switch you. You know, that's

610
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: what needs to be done for him. What you're looking up, Mick.

611
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: He just he's played overall sixty four percent of the snap. Yeah,

612
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: he got his letter jacket, all readings. And the only

613
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: wide receivers played more is Cole Beasley. Yeah, sixty five percent.

614
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: There you go. So that kind of tells you how

615
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: much they've leaned on him, and they should keep You're

616
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: right with him. No, no, you guys, you guys called

617
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: it rogress a long time ago. You called it and

618
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: you saw what this guy can do. And credit to

619
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: you both for stepping up and putting it out there

620
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: on the table. It's Nate Newton's old deal about just

621
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: play the young guys, play the young, get the young

622
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: guys on the field. We didn't talk about tacour just

623
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: looking at it. He was limited. Now, this was a

624
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: estimation because it was something for the roach. Jerry, Jerry

625
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: gave him a possibility. Okay when he talked about it

626
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: this morning. Need a little bit more because and Jason

627
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: yesterday said he probably will a little bit more, thanks coach,

628
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that meant how much more.

629
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: He's out a sprained his is weird. Normally, when you

630
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: have a sprained shoulder, it's the AC joint here. His

631
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: is the sc joint in the net connects yea here

632
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: up higher. So it's a little different. It sounds painful,

633
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: really painful. It's hard, hard to operate that way, hard

634
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: to sleep. Yeah, yeah, I just you know, just for

635
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: the rotation's sake, because what the Redskins are gonna try

636
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: and do is they're gonna try and run the ball

637
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: with Adrian Peterson. That was the same the game plan

638
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: they use. I don't think the game plan for them

639
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: changes very much with Colt McCoy at quarterback because he

640
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: could still do the read option stuff. He's still accurate

641
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: throwing the football. He's still gonna run when he is

642
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: the opportunity. So I don't think he has the arm

643
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: strength of Alex Smith, but I think what he has.

644
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: If you watched the second half of the third quarter

645
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: on when he came in that game, their offense really

646
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: didn't miss. I mean he was throwing now the two

647
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: minute drive to try and get him in the field

648
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: goal range to win the game. That was a little

649
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: bit of a struggle for him. He kind of locked

650
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: onto a couple of different guys. But I don't see

651
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: the Washington offen it's changing. I still see them throwing

652
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: the ball to their skill players on the outside, using

653
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Read the tight end. And I really really do

654
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: believe you're gonna get a heavy dose of Adrian Peterson

655
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: in this football game. And that's what they did the

656
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: first time the Grand ball thirty two times now it

657
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: was only one hundred and thirty yards. But it was

658
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: it was successful, but it was successful. And that's the

659
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: second most rushing yards the Cowboys have given up in

660
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: a game, only to the one hundred and forty seven

661
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: of Carolina. But a lot of that had to do

662
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: with Cam Newton. Absolutely, absolutely, this was more about Adrian Peterson.

663
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: And this is this is where you have to This

664
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: is you know, last night you saw a track meet.

665
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: This one might be and as we say, I mean,

666
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: I thought last week with the Cowboys and the Falcons

667
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: was gonna be a little bit of a track meet,

668
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: wasn't you know? But this this one might turn into

669
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: just pounded each other and see who can which defense

670
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: will break first? Just will be a tractor pull? Yeah, exactly. Example,

671
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: watch it be a shootout? Yeah, well we got that right, Yeah,

672
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: way wrong about that that one. I had sixty two

673
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: fifty six. You know, you know what that thing was

674
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 1: six to three. I was like, going, what game am

675
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: I watching? Here? What game am I watching? But hey,

676
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: let's you know, if it's gonna be if it's gonna

677
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: be a slug him in the mouth game, Let's see

678
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: which defense flinches first, you know which, Let's and that

679
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: that will be that will be the test of this game.

680
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: You mentioned Peterson probably having a big workload. Yeah, Jamison Crowder,

681
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: p Ryan, Chris Thompson. You know, I've all been banged up.

682
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: Redskins had a did not practice Monday, but that was

683
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: the estimation. Those guys wouldn't have practiced. Hey, and have

684
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: Colton McCoy on there. Yeah, but he was in full

685
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: by the way, he had not thrown a regular season

686
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: passed since the twenty fifteen season. Yeah, but but very

687
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: capable back capable back up. His last start in the

688
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: league most previously was twenty fourteen Dallas. Yeah, snapped a

689
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: six game win streak for the Cowboys. Did they have

690
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez on there? Sanchez was not listed. Is part

691
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: of the team? Sanch is not suspended. I thought he

692
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: was suspended before the season, do you have I thought

693
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: you had to be kind of on a team to

694
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: get suspended down when he got suspended for he it

695
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: was some stuff going on with Mark. I think. I

696
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: don't want to say I wasn't working, That's what I'm saying, though,

697
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: he he this summer. I thought the commissioners suspended him

698
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: for four games four games for Peds. Okay, Yeah, Well,

699
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: did he serve it served at some bar in Long Island?

700
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: He wasn't with anybody, That's what I'm saying. How does he?

701
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: How does he or was he outside the pocket rules?

702
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: And I don't understand the suspension rules? How about that?

703
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing really good radio for you guys. And the

704
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: last time he played in the game was twenty sixteen

705
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys and mop up duty. Yeah, that's right.

706
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: It would have been he serve it earlier this year

707
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: with the Bears before they let him go. That could

708
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: have been it, Kent. Was he on the Bear? I

709
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: thought he was pre season, back season backup? Was he

710
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't have signed him if he was. He's

711
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: not your backup if you signed him. And then he suspended,

712
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: right right? So I'm wondering. I don't I thought he

713
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: was a pre season with the Beers. You cut a

714
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: suspended player? Oh yes, yeah you can, absolutely you can. Okay, Yeah,

715
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. Then that's a very interesting good point, Brian.

716
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: I sign a guy that can't play, though, So I

717
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: don't know the rules anymore. I'm sorry I put that up.

718
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: I could just only watch tape and try and give

719
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: you my best evaluation. From that. Look that up police Kent.

720
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: By the way, one other note we talked, you mentioned

721
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: Taco on the D line. Daniel Ross estimated limited yesterday

722
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: as well. Mickey's still in the outside there. I don't

723
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: like that. Well, he's see what he can do today.

724
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: I don't think he was even close last week. There

725
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: was some consideration of putting him on. I r well,

726
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to lean on more Kuran Red.

727
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: You're hoping that didn't play badly that day. Yeah, you

728
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: got Woods coming back. You think, Hey, you still got

729
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: Christian Ringo, got his eight plays in Mickey and the

730
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: guy who's been around. See, that's why you need. That's

731
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: what you need Taco to come back, so you could

732
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: that keeps that could maybe push kick Crawford. Yeah too.

733
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory played a hell of the game too, and

734
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: we need Randy Gregory to continue to play well. We

735
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: need Randy Gregor to get after Colt McCoy in this game.

736
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: He's showing up with more snaps, you know, because he's

737
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: having to. They have no choice. So we'll see how

738
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: that works. Twelve. That's right. You know, if somebody needs

739
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: to give him a dose of confidence. You don't think

740
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: he got a little confidence in that game. You hopefully

741
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: that was because Clarence and I were kind of joking

742
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: with him on Fridays beat down in the locker room

743
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: about oh, man, now you're gonna get your first start.

744
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: You know, you're still I ain't starting. They ain't gonna

745
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: start me. And it's like, well, why wouldn't they? Oh,

746
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. They just I said, you're gonna be

747
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: the guy they're leaning on. He goes, yeah, well we'll see,

748
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: you know. And I didn't expect that out of him. Yeah,

749
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: maybe the guy's a little beat down. Yeah, Brian brought

750
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: us her beating him down. Because then when I then

751
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: when I saw him after the game, when we were

752
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: on the tarmac going to the plane, and I kind

753
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: of pointed at him like Evin, like I told you so,

754
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: and he looked at me and smiled, Oh you got

755
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: his spirits up right? Yeah, they need me and that

756
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: locker Tony Robbins over. Yeah, all right, Sorry, let's grab

757
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: a phone call real quick before we go to breath.

758
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: A hat on Alan and Alan and Tampa. You're up first, Hi,

759
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: good morning guys. Morning taking my call. Sure m. I

760
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: had called in for a couple of concerns about the

761
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: Washington game, But I want to make a brief comment

762
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: about the Michael Gallup situation since you were talking at

763
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: it at length. I'm a psychologist here in Tampa, thing

764
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: for about thirty years, and I want to say that, um,

765
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys organization has I've been following them

766
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: for fifty years, and they really take pride on having

767
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: an active mental health substance abuse program internally, but as

768
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: an observer from the outside, you know, I've been questioning

769
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: the efficacy of the program that they're running, given some

770
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: of the problems that people like Randy Gregory have had

771
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: and others that are in their program that are trying

772
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: to get help. And so I want to say that

773
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: the Michael Gallup situation is really unique, and having worked

774
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: with many people over years who've lost a loved one

775
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: to suicide, it is a totally different beast and the

776
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,479
Speaker 1: impact of that kind of a loss really usually last

777
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: a lifetime for people who have been unfortunate enough to

778
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: suffer it. And I'm hoping that the organization is going

779
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: to be helping this young man with professional services no

780
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: matter how he plays, whether he plays this week or

781
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: the weeks to come. You never know when the impact

782
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: of something like this can really take hold. And in

783
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: best case situations, he'll have a support group, he'll have

784
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: professional services to help him get through it. And I

785
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: just want to I just want to put that out

786
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: there for him and hoping the organization is gonna do

787
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: what they can to help them. Hey, Doc, can I

788
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: ask you a question? Sure, you know, and you point

789
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: out the Cowboy program, but do you think this is

790
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: something really league wide? I mean, I know you're a

791
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: Cowboy fan and you're listening to our program and all that,

792
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: but do you think this is more something league wide

793
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: than just the Dallas Cowboys? Do you mean just the

794
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: help and the thing? I mean, you were you were

795
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: very you were very you were very you know, professionally.

796
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: You were pointing the finger, and I mean in a

797
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: nice way. I don't mean in a mean way, but

798
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: you were saying that, Okay, the Cowboys are this and

799
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: this and this, But don't you feel like that maybe

800
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: league wide we're lacking some of this help that you're

801
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: talking about. Yes, so we can't just always can't say

802
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: it's the Cowboys. I mean, but I know you you're

803
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: focusing on the Cowboys. Correct. Correct. And one of the reasons,

804
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: not just because I'm a Cowboys fan, right, because they

805
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: have been the leaders in certainly in the public eye

806
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: of when Calvin Hill came in to run okay, I

807
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: see you're going okay, I see whe you're going okay. Yes,

808
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: they are on the fourth and they have the visibility.

809
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: And absolutely, I think it is a league wide issue.

810
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: I think we can all see that just from fans. Yeah,

811
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: and it does require a serious and I from what

812
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: I can see, they've had a serious commitment, but results

813
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: have been you know, at least on the substance abuse side,

814
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: which is again it's a different issue. Some of the

815
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: other players with mental health issues like Brandon Marshall and

816
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: Hardy when he was with the Cowboys that you know,

817
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: they've been upfront to Randy Gregory. They've talked about some

818
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: psychiatric illnesses apart from substance abuse, and that these issues

819
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: are related, but they are very different and really require

820
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: a different level of professional services. And again, since I

821
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: don't see internally, yes, I hope that in a situation

822
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: like this with this young man, he's going to get

823
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: every opportunity to get the kind of help that he's

824
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: going to need for as long as he needs it, right, Okay,

825
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: So well, what he doesn't realize as they have a

826
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: person on staff. Uh, doctor Stevens is with the team

827
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: at times. She travels to games with Tea. She is here.

828
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: And I can tell you from personal experience when we

829
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: were involved in the bus accident going to training camp

830
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: with the crash killed four other people that pulled out

831
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: in front of us in the other car. She was

832
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: one of the first people to not only call us

833
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: and there was four of us on the bus, but

834
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: to stay in touch almost for a week on somewhat

835
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: on a daily basis. And they were very She was

836
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: very professional, very sympathetic to a couple of young guys

837
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: that had some you know, significant difficulty, significant dealing with

838
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: being involved in something that caused a death for deaths

839
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: actually and uh, she was great with me. Um. I

840
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I think I'm okay, but you

841
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: need to keep an eye on these young guys. Yeah,

842
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: and you need to keep an eye on Emory, one

843
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: of the brand she did. And um, and it was

844
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: just us, you know, we had nothing to do with

845
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: winning games or playing football games. But but she was

846
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: genuinely concerned with us and very professional and very helpful

847
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Speaker 1: and thoughtful on you know, sometimes it doesn't hit you

848
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849
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Speaker 1: you later. And she says, we'll just you know, here's

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Speaker 1: was doing that for us, you know, she will be

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Speaker 1: on top of this, uh situation. Yeah, Mickey, it's a

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Speaker 1: life experience there. And I go back to to the

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Speaker 1: Jerry Brown, the situation with the Jerry Brown, and you know,

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Speaker 1: with right with all that, I mean you talk about

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Speaker 1: now on a on a level, on a huge level,

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Speaker 1: with a hole, with an entire team, and yeah, you know,

859
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Speaker 1: and Mickey I think painted the picture very well what

860
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00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: I was at the point I was trying to make

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863
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: I think this is something each team has their way

864
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Speaker 1: of doing things and and I and I think he

865
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: was just trying to say, hey, I hope sure, sure,

866
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: And Mickey just painted a picture for you saying, you know,

867
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Speaker 1: he's given you hope. Mickey just gave you a hope

868
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: that when Michael Gallup needs somebody to talk to that

869
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: that he will have the proper people to talk to you. Yeah,

870
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: I think we're all confident that the resources are there

871
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Speaker 1: for him as he moves through this, or the owner

872
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: will find a way to this owner loves his players

873
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: more than anybody in the statement, like you said Jerry

874
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: put out yesterday, he will do anything in his world

875
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Speaker 1: to help these players get through any problems that they

876
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Speaker 1: might have. Okay, let's take our final break when we

877
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Speaker 1: come back. Uh, we're gonna talk a little last night,

878
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Speaker 1: chiefs rams. How that impacts the league just I don't know,

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00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, is it good for the league? Yeah,

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00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: Brian may not think so, not at all. All Right,

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Speaker 1: hell watch the years. What the pros use? Jack Black

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Speaker 1: Scott free? What get Jack Black dot com? Use the

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Speaker 1: code Cowboys. I learned what he's done. He's got the

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Speaker 1: technique now where he stops and asks the question, which

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948
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Speaker 1: Sure you knew Brian bull Jack Black well, you know,

949
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Speaker 1: I mean he's yeah, he's figured it out. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: don't don't drive down the street, take a little stop

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Speaker 1: the LNES too. I don't think you've ever used that.

957
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Speaker 1: I get to count those old times sayings. Yeah, another

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Speaker 1: holiday too, got holidays stocking stuffers. Okay, so Mike, you

959
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: predicted last week Cowboys Philly. Yes, you thought it would

960
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: be sixty two fifty six, right, and then you guys

961
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: tell me I couldn't do that, So I got down

962
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: the thirty four thirty week. We didn't know you were

963
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: talking about the Monday night game. Yeah, yeah, you're predicting

964
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: a tractor pull on Thanksgiving between the Cowboys and Redskins.

965
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: We did not get that last night. What was the

966
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: final scores? Fifty four to fifty one. Yeah, rams three

967
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: hours and forty two minutes in the NFL wouldn't have

968
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: been happy if that game was played at noon on Sunday, Yeah,

969
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: Monday night. The games that came later that was um,

970
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: that was something and between two nine and one teams,

971
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: and you know, you look at the Cowboy, he's trying

972
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Speaker 1: to win their division. If they have hopes of moving

973
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: beyond that, they've got to get through a team like

974
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: the Rams who are ten and one. At some point,

975
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: you didn't like it, Brian, I wasn't a big fan.

976
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: Why not? I wasn't a big fan because I'm to

977
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Speaker 1: the point and I don't want to sound like a

978
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Speaker 1: get off the lawn guy, you know, old man. But

979
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm a guy that appreciates teams that play defense. I'm

980
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 1: appreciate defensive football, sec football. I appreciate There's no way

981
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: that Wade Phillips when he walked off that field last night,

982
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: he was happy it was over. You know, But Wade

983
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: Phillips has made his career stopping people on defense, and

984
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: with the way the rules are in the National Football

985
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: League now, it takes away the great defensive coordinator, it

986
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: really really does, you know. And he can't feel good

987
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: he gave. He had a lot of yards and a

988
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: lot of points hung on him against the Saints. He

989
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 1: had a lot of yards and a lot of points

990
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: hung on him last night. Now he had a couple

991
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: of turnover and pick six and all that, but overall,

992
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: he can't be watching that tape this morning and feeling

993
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: very good. If you're Kansas City, you have to feel

994
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Speaker 1: the same way. But I think that and the great

995
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Speaker 1: thing about working at this facility is you get to

996
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Speaker 1: run into people having breakfast. And I got the great

997
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: fortune running into christ Rachard and I said, what do

998
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: you think about that last night? He goes, that's tough.

999
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: That's a tough way to play football. That's a tough way.

1000
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: He goes. You got defensive backs that are nervous about

1001
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Speaker 1: playing in coverage. You got guys that aren't going to hit.

1002
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 1: The rules are against you. And he goes, it's tough.

1003
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Speaker 1: He goes, You get these offenses. The quarterbacks don't have

1004
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: any fear, the wide receivers don't have any fear. You

1005
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: could give up. You could be perfect coverage and have

1006
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: a guy called passenger ference penalty. It's a fifty one

1007
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: yard penalty. You know. Now, the league has always been

1008
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Speaker 1: really good. I think about circling back in about, you know,

1009
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: trying to make the product better. I don't necessarily think

1010
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: that fifty four fifty one is a good way to

1011
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: watch football. I really really don't. I think that having control,

1012
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: but I think you have to allow these defensive backs.

1013
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: If it's five yard chuck, how about ten yard chuck?

1014
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: You know, how about I'm not talking about tackle, but

1015
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: how about make these receivers and these quarterbacks have to

1016
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: throw some really tight window throws with some contacted in

1017
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: that in that area right there. You know, these guys

1018
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: are good enough. But it to me, you're you're taking

1019
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: this is like, and I don't want to just blame

1020
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: it on fantasy football, but people get excited for these

1021
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: games because it means fantasy points for them. That's where

1022
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: I was going. Chris Rashard brought up the point to

1023
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: me too. I mean, if you're a fan and you

1024
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: have Jared Goff on your team, you're loving every single minute. Dude,

1025
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: he just got me sixty points last night. I've won

1026
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: my week. Yeah you know, Yeah, so the fans love that. Yeah.

1027
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: There was a thousand yards of total offense five forty

1028
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: six to four fifty five. Yeah, the game lasted forever. Yeah,

1029
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: And my other takeaway from it, I'm sorry I went

1030
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: so long there. But now that My other takeaway from

1031
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: it was, while it was somewhat exciting to see touchdown

1032
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: after touchdown after touchdown, I do not want to see

1033
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: another All star refereeing crew ever in my life. The

1034
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: official because they were all trying to show you how

1035
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: much they knew about the game. They over officiate and

1036
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: and did you see did you see the other official

1037
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: who had the best look at it? And they came

1038
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: in for the close up, and the three of them

1039
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: came together, and the official on the left, the referee

1040
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: on the left had his eyes open like, are you

1041
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: kidding you're gonna call that? Are you talking about the

1042
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: hit with the hats city further And actually it was

1043
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: the receiver the hit, and the guy that saw it

1044
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: the best was had his eyes wide open like you

1045
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: can't call that, yeah, And the other guy was adamant

1046
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: about it, like I'm right. The one I couldn't believe

1047
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: was the tip pass by Mahomes that they ruled a fumble.

1048
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's clearly a forward pass that got batted

1049
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 1: down and went forward and they ruled it a fumble

1050
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: recovery for a touchdown at first. Now they did reverse

1051
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: it and got it right, but they were all trying

1052
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: to outdo each other, especially early in the game with

1053
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: some ridiculous calls for interference or uh just I just

1054
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: couldn't understand their mindset in this game. Yeah, okay, I

1055
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: got it. You don't like the officiating in this league.

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Speaker 1: I get it. It's getting worse. Well, I just want

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Speaker 1: to have a have a team, because then when you're

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Speaker 1: on a team, you're not trying to show up the

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Speaker 1: other guy. I think the way this conversation pertains to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys is their style of offense. And look, they

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Speaker 1: brought in a guy that's a big play potential guy

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Speaker 1: for you down the field. Sure, but they are a

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Speaker 1: run first team. And that's the question. It's like can

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Speaker 1: you You might not. You can't survive this, you don't

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Speaker 1: think so that Jerry talked about j Jarry. Now, defensively,

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Speaker 1: you could survive it if you have some rules that

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Speaker 1: you can actually play. You know, if if Xavier Woods

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Speaker 1: and Jeff Heath get to go a hit receivers in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field and a Woozier gets to

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Speaker 1: play tight and carry guys up the field. But get

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Speaker 1: you know, that's the problem that you cannot and you

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Speaker 1: can't even hit the quarterback. And I understand that you

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Speaker 1: got to protect the quarterback, but the quarterbacks now knoweth

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Speaker 1: standing in the pocket and they make a throw and

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Speaker 1: get hit, they're going to get another fifteen yards. So

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Speaker 1: you're what you're doing is you're taking any type of

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Speaker 1: advantage that the defense has a way. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: you're turning this into Okay, how these athletes are so great?

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Speaker 1: How do you cover a guy like, oh, maybe you

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Speaker 1: have to out athlete him. Okay, I'm out athlete him.

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Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, when of Mickey's officials, the

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Speaker 1: back judge makes a penalty call when it looks like

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Speaker 1: a clean, clean play, So you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: you I think the league has to look at this

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Speaker 1: and might not be this year, but next year when

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Speaker 1: they get the competition. You know, is scoring is his

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Speaker 1: having fifty four to fifty one games and it's not

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Speaker 1: every week, but it's going to evolve that because teams

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Speaker 1: are gonna figure out, they're gonna say the Rams have

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Speaker 1: done in Kansas, You're gonna get you get better players,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, the rules of this way, let's

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Speaker 1: not run the football anymore let's just sit there, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and let's be honest. Sean McVeigh turned to his trainer.

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Speaker 1: He said, two stupid pills in a cup of gatorade, please.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he almost gave them the game back by

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Speaker 1: the way. He tried to be aggressive at the end.

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Speaker 1: And I know people out there like, oh, no, Brian,

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Speaker 1: that you gotta be aggressive. You gotta know he's got

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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley is a running back. I mean, he clearly

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Speaker 1: he respected Patrick Mahomes. He wants, he wants why he'd

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Speaker 1: give the ball back. He was trying to keep him

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Speaker 1: from having it. But he gave the ball back. That's

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Speaker 1: the thing. But to me, they've got to do something.

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Speaker 1: Not every and again, not every game is fifty four

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Speaker 1: fifty one, but but you've you've got to have some

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Speaker 1: You've got to give these defensive coordinators an operate. Wade

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Speaker 1: Phillips has made a great career being a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Right now, even with the players he has, even with

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Speaker 1: one of the best players defensive players in football, he

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Speaker 1: has no checks. And there was a play in the game.

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Speaker 1: We gotta go where a lot of press conference anywhere.

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Speaker 1: We gotta finish the thought it was the exact opposite

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Speaker 1: of what happened to Jeff Heath. And they called hitting

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Speaker 1: an illegal receiver or hitting a defenseless receiver. And all

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Speaker 1: the guy did was catch the ball, and the guy

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Speaker 1: came in and made a tackle. All right, Chiefs and

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Speaker 1: Rams made history last night. Cowboys trying to get the

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Speaker 1: first place on Thursday. We'll be back tomorrow to continue

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Speaker 1: previewing Cowboys redskins on Thanksgiving on Wednesday on Talking Cowboys.

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