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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian, you're doing computer programming. Computer programming, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion is it has it has a success and

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Speaker 1: it has a failure rate. And it depends on what

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Speaker 1: line of vehicle you're working on, which module or computer

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Speaker 1: you're you're installing software in, and whether it's a new

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Speaker 1: or used party. I have, the car Doctor, I would

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Speaker 1: have taken the rear end out of that car that

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Speaker 1: had that what year was it A fifty seven fifty seven? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a fifty seven Olds rear. A fifty seven Olds rear

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Speaker 1: as a pause was the pre eminent rear end for

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Speaker 1: hot rods and drexters all throughout the safeties.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian, the

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Speaker 2: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car

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Speaker 2: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on

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Speaker 2: Automo to repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 2: pick up the phone and call in the garage to

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Speaker 2: orders are open.

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Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls at eight

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Speaker 1: five five five six ninety nine hundred and now he.

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Speaker 3: Running.

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Speaker 1: Somebody asked me this week do I ever get board

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Speaker 1: fixing cars? And I said no, I said, I get

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Speaker 1: frustrated sometimes and sometimes, you know, I get tired of

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Speaker 1: finding myself in ridiculous situations with impossible solutions, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: you got to guess, you know, I sometimes you have

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Speaker 1: to play mister Spock in the Voyage Home right where

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Speaker 1: it's you know, Kirk's asking him to compute the time

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Speaker 1: travel warp calculation for the spin around the sun and

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Speaker 1: co Spock tells Kirk, you know, I don't have all

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Speaker 1: the calculations, and basically Kirk tells him to guess, and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't understand, and he goes to McCoy and McCoy says, Spock,

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Speaker 1: take your best guess. Sometimes that's what you got to

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Speaker 1: do in order repair research. Kathy was in trouble this week.

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Speaker 1: Her two Blazer trailblazer lost the headlights. She was having

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Speaker 1: home from work late one night and she lost headlights,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and then it started working again, and

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Speaker 1: then she lost them again, and then they started working again,

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Speaker 1: and naturally, when it was her day at the shop,

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Speaker 1: they were working. It was a very intermittent, very random problem.

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Speaker 1: But I took a look. There were no fault codes

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Speaker 1: because we always start with codes, right, We always start

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Speaker 1: with heart rate and blood pressure, We look at the basics,

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Speaker 1: we look at the vitals, and there was nothing there.

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Speaker 1: And then I read a wiring diagram, and the wiring

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Speaker 1: diagram pointed towards that. On low beam, there is something

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Speaker 1: called a headlamp driver module, which is nothing more than

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Speaker 1: an integrated circuit board fancy relay that GM plugs in

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Speaker 1: under the hood and position number forty six in the

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Speaker 1: underhood fuse box. And they have a known pattern failure

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Speaker 1: of failure. As a matter of fact, when I look

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Speaker 1: up statistics on it, out of seventy one cases, something

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Speaker 1: like sixty six were repaired by putting a headlamp driver

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Speaker 1: module in. So I guessed you had to do something.

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Speaker 1: It was a fifty dollars part. The vehicle's twenty two

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Speaker 1: years old, it's got one hundred and sixty thousand miles

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Speaker 1: on it. Sometimes you gotta guess there's just no getting

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Speaker 1: away from it, and especially in a safety situation. All right,

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Speaker 1: the amount of time it would have taken me to

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Speaker 1: been probably twice as much, if not three times as

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Speaker 1: much as the price of the part. At that point

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Speaker 1: change the twenty two year old part. Let's start there.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I was happy I was able to get

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Speaker 1: a good quality part out of the folks over at AutoZone,

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Speaker 1: because I knew it would you know, it did its

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Speaker 1: it was made well. But you know, sometimes you gotta

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Speaker 1: guess that's just just so important and so far I'm right,

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Speaker 1: so far the time travel loop back to Earth from

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Speaker 1: could have played mister spock On who never knows, maybe

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Speaker 1: if they recast the role. Albeit except no whears. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be like that. But anyway, sometimes you

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Speaker 1: have to guess. That's what order repair is, and that's

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Speaker 1: the name of the game. Let's get over in case

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Speaker 1: you're wondering, this is Ron and any and the car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Let us go to Jim in Illinois. Jim in Illinois,

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Speaker 1: any five Honda CRV. Now, what's what could be.

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Speaker 3: Wrong with this?

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Speaker 1: What do you got, Jim?

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Speaker 4: I guess something is more frustrating than anything else. It's

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Speaker 4: the engine auto stop and the lane departure controls. You

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Speaker 4: can't you can disable them only when it's running, you

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Speaker 3: Right the dealer.

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Speaker 4: The dealer hasn't been too good about you know if

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Speaker 4: they you go to the service department and they said, well,

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Speaker 4: and there's the one. They're the ones that are auto

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Speaker 4: program Well, you go in there and you get the

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Speaker 4: same thing. They'll turn it off and you get home

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Speaker 4: and you get in the next day, it's back to

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Speaker 4: stopping at the auto stop of the stop light, engine stop,

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Speaker 4: I should say it stop lights, and the lane departure control.

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Speaker 4: Now you can turn off some of the stuff like

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Speaker 4: the warning besides the shaking and all that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 4: was a fix for that. At one time. I remember

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Speaker 4: on some of the GM stuff they had a a

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Speaker 4: you can go into the OBD plug and you could

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Speaker 4: reprogram it so it would take it off until you

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Speaker 4: wanted it back on.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that even is an available thing

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Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you a question. Let me

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Speaker 1: ask Let me ask you a question. Jim, do you

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Speaker 1: do you think we live in a litigious society?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Do you know?

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Speaker 4: It's there right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And you know where I'm going right, Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I get it. Listen, it's annoying. My wife has

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Speaker 1: I have to turn it off every time. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have to go through the cycle. And I've just

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Speaker 1: I just accepted it is what it is because there's

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Speaker 1: just no way to do permanent override. And I've always

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Speaker 1: looked at it as situations like that. That's the lawyers

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Speaker 1: that have prevented, you know, too much from venturing out

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Speaker 1: too far from the field. Now that's a twenty five

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Speaker 1: model year. Maybe in two years when brand new. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when some programmer gets tired of it all, somebody'll come

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Speaker 1: out with some sort of a modifier that'll make a change.

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Speaker 1: But right now, you're basically trying to modify Windows on

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Speaker 1: your home computer and you don't know where the stop

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Speaker 1: gaps are. You don't know where the end of the

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Speaker 1: line code is. You don't know, you know it just

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Speaker 1: it's where where where we we are victim and slave

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Speaker 1: to the computer within the machine, and until somebody decides

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Speaker 1: to hack it and override it. And I'm not suggesting

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Speaker 1: they do, but that's just the way it is, and

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Speaker 1: the fact that it's it's safety related stuff except for

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Speaker 1: the stop start obviously, you know you're gonna you're gonna. Now.

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Speaker 1: One thing I will tell you this I've seen is

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Speaker 1: that if you want to and you want to try this,

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Speaker 1: but you got to keep your foot on the brake

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Speaker 1: when you pull up to a stop sign, put your foot,

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Speaker 1: put your foot on the brake, pop it into neutrals.

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Speaker 1: It might stay running. Of course, then you've got to

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Speaker 1: go through the Then you got to go through the

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Speaker 1: motion of having to put it back in the drive

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Speaker 1: every time, which is a painding the back.

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Speaker 4: But you know it's I was thinking about doing something

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Speaker 4: I but that.

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Speaker 1: Does That's not a solution, that's not it's well, that's

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Speaker 1: that's an understanding how the system works.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 1: It really gives an appreciation for an older vehicle. I

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Speaker 1: just picked up a two thousand and two Ford and

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Speaker 1: it does make you know, it's just a simple basic

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Speaker 1: car that just it just it's just so easy to drive.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's there's no a doc there's no lane

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Speaker 1: departure there's no you know, you get in it, you

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Speaker 1: put it in gear, you you know, you turn on

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Speaker 1: the radio and you cruise along. It's just it's great.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's just great, simple fourteen a CRV exactly

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Speaker 5: the same thing, and except that it doesn't have a

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Speaker 5: CVT transmission.

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Speaker 4: But it's fine. I mean, one hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 4: or so on it or more because we tell it.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't register when you tell So there's got to

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Speaker 4: be more on it, right, And the wife takes that

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Speaker 4: because she doesn't want to.

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Speaker 3: Bother with the other.

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Speaker 1: Well, so sometimes sometimes simpler, sometimes simpler is better.

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Speaker 3: It really is, absolutely so the old fifth.

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Speaker 1: Right, keep it simple, yep, I got you.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: All right, kiddo, all right, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You'd be well. Tim, all right, Jim,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Now let's go. That was Jim. Let's now

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Speaker 1: let's go to Tim in Connecticut eighteen Toyota Corolla. Tim,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the car, doctor, sir, How can I help?

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Speaker 7: This is follow up ronk question I had about lane

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Speaker 7: departure and pre collusion malfunctions due to a a front

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Speaker 7: tire incident into a curb.

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Speaker 1: I remember this couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 7: Yep, yes, yes, your last suggestion was to get the

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Speaker 7: front end checked out, aligned if possible, and take it

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Speaker 7: from there. Well I did that. I took it to

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Speaker 7: a tire shop that does the alignment. They don't do repairs,

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Speaker 7: so it's left back in my hands, checked around a

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Speaker 7: couple of things, and the cost to get somebody to

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Speaker 7: dig into it easily five hundred.

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Speaker 1: That was the number I had in my head.

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Speaker 7: Could could go way forward to that into you know,

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Speaker 7: tearing carrying the suspension apart in the front and uh,

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Speaker 7: well let's try and trial and well.

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Speaker 1: Now let's back up a second here, Tim, we don't

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Speaker 1: want to do trial and error. So did they align

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Speaker 1: the front end?

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Speaker 7: Okay? The results of the alignment the right front, the

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Speaker 7: right front tire was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tim, it doesn't matter, it doesn't it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: where it was. It was out of alignment, right, correct? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Is it back in line now they have it is?

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Speaker 1: Were they able to align it?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Not exactly?

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Speaker 1: Okay? What's not exactly right? That's usually a yes or

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Speaker 1: no answer. Why couldn't they align it?

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Speaker 3: They?

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Speaker 7: They they they adjusted the camber as much as they

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Speaker 7: could and and the camber still sits at negative two

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Speaker 7: point seven.

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Speaker 3: Degrees, and spec is what is it?

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Speaker 7: The spec is the spec is negative point like negative

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Speaker 7: point three, the negative point five.

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Speaker 1: So they're telling you that something is bent.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So your question, your question to me is next

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Speaker 1: step my question?

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Speaker 7: Yep? My question to you in following up on this

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Speaker 7: research camber adjustment bolts? Would that would a camber adjustment

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Speaker 7: bolt on the right side in the front be enough

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Speaker 7: to correct enough camber to put it to put put

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Speaker 7: it back very close to alignment.

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Speaker 1: Let me convince you to spend some money on this car. Okay,

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Instead of I just don't want to see you try

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Speaker 1: not saying you do Tim, I'm just you know, trying

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Speaker 7: Well understood, okay, so completely completely understood. All right, that's

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Speaker 1: I want you to be safe. I see, I don't

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Speaker 4: All right, kiddo, all right, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, Tim, You'll be well. And if you give

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Speaker 1: Bob and Long Island ninety seven built the Saber. Bob.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, How.

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Speaker 3: Can I help ron? Thanks for taking my call?

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Speaker 1: Welcome?

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Speaker 3: Okay, the original problem I think I had called you.

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Speaker 3: I had a code thirteen seventy four. Car wouldn't wouldn't

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Speaker 3: No codes, all right? I tried to I had a

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Speaker 1: me let me ask a couple of questions, Bob, just

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Speaker 1: ninety seven the saber, you know, a four year old

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Speaker 1: could check fuel pressure because the fitting's right up top

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Speaker 1: right the straighter veils right there. You have a fuel

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Speaker 1: when it starts up, because you're telling me this car

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Speaker 1: after about three four minutes, it stumbles and almost stalls,

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Speaker 3: Right, and then it's okay, yeah, yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: It's a duplicatable problem, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so you know what's fuel pressure? I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't want to overlook the obvious, all right, Okay,

439
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: that's number that's number one, number two, number three when

440
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,479
Speaker 1: it stalls? Okay, yes, you know. Do you have a scope,

441
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: by chance? Do you have any sort of diagnostic testing

442
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: equipment beyond basics?

443
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 3: As I had was a code read. I had it

444
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 3: on to see if it lost communication, right, and I didn't.

445
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: Right? Well, ninety seven is a very old system. You're

446
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: working on a computer that would be running DOS if

447
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 1: we were talking about it compared to today's modern age.

448
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: All right, so it's it's you know, our diagnostics have

449
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: evolved to the point that, yes, you are correct. On

450
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: a newer vehicle, i'd be looking at the CAN network

451
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: and seeing who's talking to who, and you know who's online,

452
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: who's who's on board? But this is ninety seven. Do

453
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: you have a clear shot to the crank sensor, Bob?

454
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: You can visually see it, if I remember correctly.

455
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: Yes.

456
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 1: Do you own a long three eights extension like an

457
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: eighteen or twenty four incher?

458
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, crank center place?

459
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: Good? Where'd you get it from? Is the crank sensor new?

460
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: Tell me it's new, right, it's new.

461
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: It's a.

462
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: Okay, do you know what new stands for? Do I

463
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: have to refresh your memory?

464
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

465
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: You're making you're making assumptions, right, so you know, let's

466
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 1: give it the tap test. You know what I'm going

467
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: to ask you give it a tap test. Tap tap, tap,

468
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 1: all right, it doesn't stumble, it doesn't miss. Okay, then

469
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: I guess we got a good one, all right, and

470
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: obviously not so hard that you knock it off. It's

471
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: it's a gentle tap. Right. Does it take I think

472
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: road shock? All right? When we get past that. Have

473
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: you considered the mass airflow sensor as a possible problem?

474
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: No, No, I haven't.

475
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: Okay, you know it's since you don't have a scan tool,

476
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: we got to do a little guessing, which is okay.

477
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: It's how Spock and Kirk gop back to Earth in

478
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight. But you know, if we were to

479
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: clean the mass airflow sensor, we'll take it off and

480
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: look at it, all right. Does it look dirty? Is

481
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: there a spider web in it? Does it look like

482
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: something crawled up in there and died? This is a

483
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven automobile. It's seen a few miles right.

484
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: This vehicle's almost thirty years old. So what does the

485
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: inside of the mass airflow look like? And then when

486
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: that doesn't change anything, after you clean it all right,

487
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: and you're going to clean it gingerly g I N

488
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: G E R L Y right, then you're going to

489
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: unplug the mass airflow sensor. The car should run? Does

490
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: the car run with out a problem? Does it no

491
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: longer stumble install?

492
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 3: Okay, all right?

493
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 1: If it no longer stumbles in stalls, bet you've got

494
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: a bad mass air Now. The way I would confirm

495
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: that is by use of a labscope, and I would

496
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: look at signal output and watch it. Does it drop out?

497
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: It's not something you're going to see with a vault meter.

498
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: It's obviously not something you're gonna see with the naked eye.

499
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: But that would get me to that point. If the

500
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: mass airflow makes no difference, if none of this makes

501
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: any different, then I'm gonna tell you we've got to

502
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: consider and look at crank sensor input. We've got to

503
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: start to look at inputs to the PCM one way

504
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: or another. You know, a doctor can't do heart surgery

505
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: without getting the chest open. We can't diagnose anything without

506
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,239
Speaker 1: some better tools than what you've got all right?

507
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: Can can you voultage drop a cable that's not a

508
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: battery cable to go from from the ignition modules to

509
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 3: the computer. Sure?

510
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: Why not? You can? You can volt to drop anything.

511
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: I didn't find anything, right, maybe it changed the positive

512
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 3: battery cable.

513
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: But maybe that's not the problem, you know. Stay on task, Bobby,

514
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: all right, you're you're you're wandering, all right, look at

515
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: the basics. Here's what I want you to do when

516
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: you get off the phone. Do you drink coffee?

517
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

518
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Okay? I want you to sit down and make yourself

519
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: a fresh cup of coffee. I want you to get

520
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: out of yellow notepad and list the things you've done

521
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: versus the possibility of what it could be. And then

522
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: I want you to write down, as best as you

523
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: can remember everything I told you, and and start to

524
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: check the boxes. You've got to start to check the

525
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: boxes on what's going on here? All right? Okay, one

526
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: step at a time. Now, if you want to hear

527
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: this conversation again, all right, Because the melodious tones of

528
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: my voice aren't enough to hear once a day, you

529
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: can now hear it twice in about an hour and

530
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: a half. Two hours. This will become a podcast. The

531
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: radio show becomes a podcast. Just Google search Ron and

532
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: Innian podcast.

533
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: And yeah, I have a subscription.

534
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: Okay, you know Amazon, you know Apple, iHeart everybody's got it, Spotify,

535
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: et cetera. And you can come up. This is halfway

536
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: the halfway mark in the second hour, and you can

537
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: listen to this conversation all over again. All right, start

538
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 1: start to think. Tell me what's good, and then we'll

539
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,239
Speaker 1: have a conversation about what's bad, and then you call

540
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: me back.

541
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 3: All right, okay, appreciate it.

542
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: You're welcome by him. Not a problem, babe anytime. So, yes, sir,

543
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: very good. I'm ronning Anie in the car. Doctor. I'll

544
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: be back right after this. Oh wait a minute, I

545
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: guess we're not. So let's let's go over to Mike

546
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: in Virginia. Mike in Virginia, Yes, sir, are you there?

547
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 3: Hey?

548
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 6: Ron?

549
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: How you doing?

550
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 4: Love your show?

551
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. What's going on?

552
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 6: Two thousand and three Ford F one fifty Harley Davison

553
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 6: Edition five point four. I started it had a misfire

554
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 6: and number five and number six cylinder, so I replaced

555
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 6: them plugs. I replaced all the coils with motorcraft coils

556
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 6: on it. Replaced all new coils. Still when you started up, it'

557
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 6: a rev up and then come down to about three

558
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 6: or four hundred rpm and barely run the fu pictures.

559
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 6: The fuel pressure regulator valve, replaced the IAC valve, changed

560
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 6: the fuel filter because I thought it was clogged. Put

561
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 6: a fuel pressure test on it. I'm getting thirty five

562
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 6: to forty psi fuel pressure.

563
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: That's the first number. Go ahead, And what's it doing now?

564
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 5: It still stumbles, still stumbles, and you put it in

565
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 5: reverse or drive it a cut off if you give

566
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 5: it to go to give it the gas.

567
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 6: When it's in park, it a tall out. You can't

568
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 6: get it to move and it's only going up to

569
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 6: three or four hundred rpm. Like I said, I've replaced

570
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 6: the IC valve. Okay, hang on a flowr hair sensor.

571
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: Hang on a second, Mike, Hey, Mike, hang on a second.

572
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: So it had a misfire, right right, okay, and you're

573
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: you're making a second Go ahead, I.

574
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 6: Think one cold low lean bank pressure.

575
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: Okay, it's lean fuel trim code bank one. Right, So

576
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: do you own a scan tool?

577
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 6: I got the scan tool, all right?

578
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: Do you know what fuel trim is no I no, Okay,

579
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: you ever built a fire? Were you a boy scout? Right?

580
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 6: Right?

581
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: Okay? So when when you were a boy scout and

582
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: you built a fire, if you used dry wood, you

583
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: got a nice even burn, right right. If you use

584
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: wet wood, what'd you create? Smoke?

585
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: Right right?

586
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: And if you used really dry wood, you got annoyed

587
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: because you had to go out and find more wood

588
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: because your mixture burned, Your would burn so fast, right,

589
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: so you know you've got you've got too much oxygen,

590
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: not enough oxygen, and right in the sweet spot, okay,

591
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: A fuel trim code sets because they want a nice

592
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: even burning campfire, and you've got very you've got very

593
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: dry wood. Your combustion is happening so fast. The mixture

594
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: is out of balance, all right. In high school, when

595
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: we took geometry and algebra two and they introduced us

596
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: to those negative and positive number lines, we all looked

597
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: at that and said, what in the heck is that

598
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: going to do us any good? I became a mechanic,

599
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: and this is where it comes in. A zero number

600
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: on a on a number line. Zero on a number

601
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: line is a balance their fuel mixture, all right. A

602
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: positive number means we're adding fuel because the mixture is lean.

603
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: A negative number means we're taking fuel away because the

604
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: mixture is rich. And we're doing this plus and minus

605
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: this AD and subtraction by changing pulse with on the injector.

606
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: How long the injector is open for? Okay? Right, So

607
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: that being said, all right, you've got a lean fault code.

608
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: Let's chase that. Let's look at fuel trim. If fuel

609
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: trim exceeds fifteen percent, I'm going to tell you what's

610
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: wrong with bank one? Now, coming off the back of

611
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: the throttle body. Okay, there's a PCV hose, right. Have

612
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: you looked to see if it's collapsed. There's also another

613
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: vacuum hose if I remember correctly back there, and they

614
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: had an issue where they would collapse and they would

615
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: suck in and they would split and cause a lean

616
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: fuel condition. Have you looked at anything one?

617
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 6: Now the hoe is going. Now, I'll also replace the

618
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 6: TVC valve. And that ninety degree elbow that you're talking

619
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 6: about was exactly that. It was crushed right and cracked,

620
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 6: and I replaced that.

621
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and still no change?

622
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: Still no change?

623
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: All right, what's fuel trim? Is that the only is

624
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: that the only vacuum leak you've got? All right, remember this,

625
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: I've been trying to listen for him.

626
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 6: I've been trying to listen for vacuum leaks. And I

627
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 6: took some carb Cleaner spraying around there.

628
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: Carb Clean's to erratic. I like propane. Go buy a bottle.

629
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: Go buy a bottle of propane with an adjuster tool,

630
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, and do that. So all right, do some testing.

631
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: Call me back next week. We can talk more, Mike,

632
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: and I'll take you deeper. I'll get you out of

633
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: this and we'll go from there. I'm running a ding

634
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: in the card Doctor. We'll return right after this. Welcome back.

635
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: It's running inding the card doctor. I want to talk

636
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: about email, right Brian Sharon sent me an email. Brian's

637
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: a machinist. I think in Maryland or Virginia. I forget

638
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: where exactly, and send me an email the other week. Ron,

639
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm listening to your show today in the shop, love it.

640
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: Do what you can and if you can or won't,

641
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: stoop to a level, just move on. I think we

642
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: were talking about people and some of the conversations I've had,

643
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: and he wrote me he said the philosophy I've developed

644
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: is if we believe in what we're doing and serving

645
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: the general public, it's our duty to charge. But it's

646
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: worth to do our jobs. If we don't, we go

647
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: out of business and can't help anyone. And that's a

648
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: lot of what goes on in a repair shop, you know.

649
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's not a given. You know that

650
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: we're all going to be there tomorrow because it's getting

651
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: to be a very competitive, very expensive industry, you know,

652
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: and it has, it's escalated, it's gotten more, it's gotten

653
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: worse and more so over time, you know. Brian then

654
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: goes on to write, he goes, recently, I had someone

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Speaker 1: ask how much to rebuild a particular LS engine, since

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Speaker 1: we see a number of those. I gave a rough

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Speaker 1: estimate over the phone for what what what would be

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Speaker 1: getting as being pretty attractive, I got that. Never mind,

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Speaker 1: I can get it so and so off the Internet's

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Speaker 1: engine for five hundred bucks less. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: that's a whole nother conversation for another day. Let's pull

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Speaker 1: over to take a pause. I'm run any in the car, doctor.

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Speaker 1: I'll return right after this. Don't go anywhere. Second year,

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Speaker 1: Hang on blug back running any in the card doctor

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Speaker 1: kind of winded it down this hour. I want to

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Speaker 1: finish Brian's letter. And he was talking about it in

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Speaker 1: case you were in case you missed it. Shearon. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a Shearon machine shop. I think he's in Virginia.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He was talking about pricing things over the phone. You know,

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Speaker 1: whenever you call up for a phone ask tomate. I

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Speaker 1: think you always ask the wrong questions. It's always how much,

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Speaker 1: not how right? And I think how right has to

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Speaker 1: be the denominating, the deciding factor. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: big denominator that we all miss. You know, someone called

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Speaker 1: the other day at the shop and she wanted the

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Speaker 1: schedule and oil change. And I see her once every

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Speaker 1: two years, every you know, every every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: And the conversation was, you know, can you squeeze me?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'll squeeze you and I'll get you in

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Speaker 1: for an oil change the next day. And you know

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Speaker 1: how much is an oil change? I said, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: typical oil change today is one hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 1: to two hundred dollars. Now, before you all faint, and

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Speaker 1: before I start getting all the hate mail, understand what's involved.

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Speaker 1: We're not a quick loube. We're not just dumping oil

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Speaker 1: and going. We're taking it for a ride. We're spending.

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Speaker 1: We typically spend I've clocked it. We typically spend somewhere

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Speaker 1: between forty and fifty minutes on the average car doing

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Speaker 1: an oil change by the time the road test happens,

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Speaker 1: by the time the lookover happens, Peeking at brakes, wriggling

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Speaker 1: the front end, checking all the bulbs. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: a really thorough oil change and shop labor is what

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Speaker 1: it is. And with good quality filter and good oil.

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Speaker 1: Guess what those are the numbers, But it can't be

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Speaker 1: you don't want to do that, And then you're looking

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Speaker 1: for a quick loube. You're not looking for somebody to

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Speaker 1: really take care of the car. And you've got to

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Speaker 1: be aware of what you're asking for when you ask

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Speaker 1: for it. Till the next time I'm running any in

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Speaker 1: the car doctor reminding all of you good mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: they're priceless. See ya, sh