1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: I never told you, prodicction of iheartright you. And today, 3 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: as it comes out, is June thirtieth, just the end 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: of Pride month, June thirtieth, twenty twenty five. And I 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: hope that people had a great time and that you've 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: got to do some really fun things and hang out 7 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: with some really cool people. That being said, we are 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: doing a quick roundup of Pride related news, and most 9 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: of it's bad and sadly, this is only a handful 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: of what we could mention in a Monday MANI, and 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: we're not going into too much detail on a lot 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: of it, so just that caveat, but I figured we 13 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: should go over some of these things, starting with the 14 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: continued attacks on the trans community here in the US 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: and elsewhere, but specific here in the US. So we 16 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: had the Supreme Court which upheld Tennessee's ban on gender 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: affirming care for transgender youth, which is sort of setting 18 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: up the stage for a lot of other states to 19 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: do it as well. We've got the ban of trans 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: people serving in the military. We have the Administration threatening 21 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: to sue California over a state law that allows for 22 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: trans athletes to compete in sports, and then removing the 23 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: tea from government documents and websites so it's LGB including 24 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: the Stonewall National Park, this website. So that is something 25 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: that we're going to have to be really vigilant about. 26 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: This is a concentrated attack. 27 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. 28 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: It's I don't think this is going to land in 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: people speaking about it because it's too. 30 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: This is it looks so weird. 31 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: It looks like you're talking about someone specifically the initial LGB. 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, like like Lyndon John, Yes, exactly. 33 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, this doesn't make sense and I'm glad for that, 34 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: and I'm going to remain. 35 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: It like that because that's just seething anger. 36 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: Continue yes, yes, seething anger. And again that's only a 37 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: handful of things. Unfortunately, there's also continue to text on 38 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: Pride and the LGBTQ plus community at large. So there 39 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: was the doing away with the specific funding for LGBTQ 40 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: plus support on the suicide Hotline, the National Suicide Hotline. 41 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Since it's debuted in twenty two, it received over a 42 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: million calls. And this is happening as numbers indicate that 43 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: suicidality goes out for trans and non binary youth in 44 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: states enacting restrictive laws that we're seeing happen, and numbers 45 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: also indicate that the percentage of LGBTQ plus youth who 46 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: experienced suicidality within the past year is disturbingly high. So 47 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: that's a pretty big, pretty big thing too. And I 48 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: mean the thing is like it was a you would 49 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: call in and if it was something specifically related to 50 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: your identity or something, they would connect you with someone 51 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: who was like the qualified person to help with that 52 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: specific thing. So they're kind of just removing that. Also, yeah, 53 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: the canceling are relocating any Pride events at the Kennedy Center, 54 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: which is like the main place for government events in Washington, 55 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: d C. There was like a way some people got 56 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: around this. 57 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: But. 58 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: The interim director of the Kennedy Center, Richard Grennell, who 59 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: is gay himself, said in a recent interview with Politico, 60 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: you go to a I parade and it's embarrassing. It's 61 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: real French and it's too sexual. And I think that 62 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: we have to start critiquing ourselves. By the way, this 63 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: opinion is extremely popular with normal gaze. We shall return 64 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: to this point of normal gaze in a minute, but 65 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: for now, put a pin it. Yep. But this brings 66 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: us to why intersectionality is important, or at least that 67 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: is one of the things I kept thinking about when 68 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: I was researching this. So, for instance, we have instead 69 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: of Pride Month, the White House has dubbed June Title 70 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: nine month as another attack on trans women, claiming it 71 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: protects Title nine protects women and girls and keeps trans 72 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: women from competing in women's sports. So this is like 73 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: another way of kind of splitting marginalized peoples of sea. 74 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: But we're protecting the women here. 75 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 3: Dis mentally any like government mental organizations that are supposed 76 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 3: to help women. 77 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, that's like my whole thing. Like you've just 78 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: basically put into. 79 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: Not shell, the whole thing of this level like we care, 80 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: we don't, we don't don't, we don't, but we will 81 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: use this, will pretend like we. 82 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: Will use this until we take it away from you 83 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: as well, so straight pride. I also saw some things 84 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: about this. We've talked about this before. The only reason 85 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: I bring it up that they are kind of laughably 86 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: poorly attended, but they're very regularly embroiled with racism. And 87 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: other like sexism, other things, but like racism specifically. So 88 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: I think this is another issue where we have to 89 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: look at why these things are connected. Why like the 90 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: interest being like straight white, yes, but right, nothing else. 91 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 3: Did you see that recent festival where the dudes like, 92 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: it's a straight festival and everybody's so excited and they 93 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: were having. 94 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: They called it. I forgot what they called it. It wasn't 95 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: just general awesome. 96 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, And then the one podcast like and there's 97 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: no black people and you're like, yeah, that's thank you, 98 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 4: We're exactly and then the person who created it is like, no, 99 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: that's not what we meant. I'm just I'm just saying 100 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that out loud. He didn't sa out loud, 101 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: but I wouldn't say that. 102 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: But the person like it was somebody who represented everything 103 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: that happened there, and he was trying to like pretend 104 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: it was head Like, no, bro, that's what you meant. 105 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 106 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: Well there was another instance of exactly that where I 107 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: think that the funding behind I believe it was in California, 108 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: a straight Pride event was brought into question and it 109 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: was at a I don't know, the city council, meaning 110 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: or something, and the organization was like, we're a peaceful 111 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: racist group, and somebody like laughed aloud and was like, 112 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, you said it. 113 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: Again. 114 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: I think we talked about that at the very beginning 115 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: of this new administration. Is like, at the very least, 116 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: now we get to really see who we have to 117 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: stay away from. 118 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of the new administration, let's go back to 119 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: this normal gase thing here. So I had actually never 120 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: heard this term before in like the context of a thing. 121 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: But when I heard it, I was like, I'm pretty 122 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: sure I know exactly what they're talking about. And I 123 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: was like, yep, okay, I got it. So we're talking 124 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: about the rise of this conservative push to create a 125 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: narrative of their being normal game, which JD. Vance said 126 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: that they could get the normal gaze vote in the 127 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: election in an interview with Joe Rogan. And so if 128 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: you're thinking, well, what prey tale is a normal gay? 129 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: All right? So normal gays don't dye their hair, they 130 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: don't have any pride related items, and they would certainly 131 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: never display them if they did, And they're conservative politically 132 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: and think that Trump is right to erase pride and 133 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: protect children from indoctrination, and from what I've seen, are 134 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: largely white men. I can't confirm that, but I from 135 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: what I've. 136 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: Seen, yes, yes. 137 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: And then this comes back to when we talked about 138 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: like the pride events in Georgia and Atlanta specifically, and 139 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: why they are segregated events essentially, like this is that 140 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: same level of like, no, but we do it in 141 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: this classy way, in this way, they do it in 142 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: this way, and like obviously he's just talking about closet 143 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: gay people at this point again where they were not 144 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: doing out they were fine with as long as you 145 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: weren't acknowledging that a's life, that this exists in general. 146 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 147 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: Well yes, so it's also we've talked about this a lot, 148 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: but this is sort of the same, at least to me, 149 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: this is sort of the same, like proximity to a 150 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: white supremacy or proximity to power of I will be 151 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: fine as long as I play along, as long as 152 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't get my pride flags out and make a 153 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: big deal out of it. I'm definitely not a token. 154 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: But there is a big group called the log Cabin 155 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: Republicans who are gay people who are conservative and are 156 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: like we're the new kind of conservative gay voices, and 157 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: they have like a listing of what they have, a 158 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: whole artic about being what a normal gay is, and 159 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: they basically are like very wishy wash. It's not the 160 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: right word they're they're saying in a nice way, like 161 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: we just want our money and our borders to be 162 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: secure and all of those things. But yeah, if you 163 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: want to look it at you can. But it's again, 164 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: it's it's a very us versus them arguments. It's very 165 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: everyone else in the queer community who doesn't think like 166 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: me is not a normal gay, but I am all 167 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: while the administration is widdling down rights that impact the 168 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: entire queer community. And yes, it will impact you one day, 169 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: Yes it will. I promise you it will. So that 170 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: is some of the bad that's going on. But you know, 171 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: Pride is about resistance. That's why it got started stone 172 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: Wall Like, if you want to learn more about the 173 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: history of that, you can see the podcast that we've 174 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: been talking about on the show after Live season two. 175 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: But it started out as resistance and people are fighting 176 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: in court at the local level and organizations that we 177 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: mentioned in Feminess around the World segments for instance, like 178 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: people are fighting. So I know it's been a rough 179 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: pride in a lot of ways, but we will keep going, 180 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: and I really do. I've been happy to see people 181 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: who celebrated and who still had joy during this pride 182 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: and are still keeping fight going. So yes, yes, listeners, 183 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: please let us know if there are any organizations or 184 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: topics around this you would like us to come back 185 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: to or shout out, or if you had to it's 186 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: like a fun pride, let us know about it. 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