1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: The Worlds of Vegetal Podcast Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. Your 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: shows are all positive. It's it's unbelievable one day. Yeah, 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: we're back to Homerville. But that's fine. 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: Drat started a walk down, like one of his goals is, yeah, 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not proud. I'm not gonna tell 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: you right. Well, I thought they were going to go 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: right intough mandra in the locker room and be like, 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: what are your goals? 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 4: So well, that would be called being a reporter. I see, 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 4: I didn't go to Jay school back. I don't know 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 4: good of it questions and the famous exchange between Paul 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 4: Perrole Andrew Bloodzel. 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 5: You asked that question. 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 4: I didn't always just sit around and let all this 17 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 4: let these other nubes do all the work. How they 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 4: played offensively is how they want to play. 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: But you're worried about it, Yeah, they want to be 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: couldn't be worried about it? 21 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 4: No, I'm that's something that I don't think a lot 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 4: of people are. 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: Worried about but about you. But you are worried about it. 24 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: Should I think he just put me in I. 25 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: Thought like we were doing picks. 26 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, he put me in the grinder. 27 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. For 28 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: deals buy a Toyota dot com. All right, welcome the 29 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Jillette Stadium, and 30 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: we're here for the next two hours talking Patriots as 31 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: we always do on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday during the football season. 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: It's Paul, It's me. Later on it'll be Deuce and 33 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: Evan and Alex. 34 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 4: We're hoping. Alex had some some car issues coming in 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: this morning. 36 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: So car issues hoped she blew. 37 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: Out a tire. Oh oh, that's because she didn't, you know, 38 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: take your advice. 39 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, get those bridge stones in the run flats. That's right, 40 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: you get those run flats. You can at least make 41 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: it the worst. 42 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: Trying to think of the term run. 43 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, while you're at work, you can somebody come and 44 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: take care of it. You know, she's probably running on 45 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: those baloney tires. 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: You gotta well, that's generally what I do. 47 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: I tell my wife. I tell my wife, you gotta 48 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: take care of your car. You have to make you 49 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: got to get it tuned up. You gotta, you know, 50 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: maintain your tires. Look at the tread, stick your finger 51 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: in that tread and see what's going on. And don't 52 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: wait because at the end of the day, if something happens, 53 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm the one that's gonna have to take care of it. 54 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: So you gotta take care of everybody. 55 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 4: You know the seriousness that Fred took that because when 56 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: he directs it right at the camera, that's a message 57 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: directly to you. 58 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: That's right. It's a public service announcement. It's a public 59 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: all right, Paul. So what do we got? We got 60 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: the first injury reporter. 61 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: We do we do the week? You know, first, I'll 62 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: just you know, sort of set the scene for the day. 63 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: We just had a chance to listen to the offensive 64 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: coaching staff. 65 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 5: Last week. 66 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: We had the defensive coordinator DeMarcus and I have. 67 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 2: A question about what something Alex van Pelt said. 68 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 4: We get to that, but we did hear, you know, 69 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 4: Van Pelt spoke from the podium, and then we had 70 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 4: access to a handful of the offensive coaches. Scott Peters, 71 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: we got Taylor Embury, the running backs, coach, Tyler Hughes, 72 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: the wide receivers coach Bignell. I think it's Bob Bignell, 73 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 4: the tight ends coach. So we had a chance to 74 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 4: talk to a handful of the offensive coaches, but I'm 75 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: going to go right to you, Fred, because it sounds 76 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 4: like you have something specific about Alex van Pell. 77 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I wasn't. I didn't hear it live. I 78 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: was just I've been in meetings and I was just 79 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: kind of looking at some of the quotes that have 80 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: been tweeted out. One of the things he said is 81 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: back to the Bengals game, there were stuff that he 82 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: wished was on the play sheet that wasn't. And I'm wondering, 83 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: does that mean because Drake May wasn't in the game 84 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: and the playbook was limited, or is it just stuff 85 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: that he overlooked. 86 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: I took it to be that there's stuff that he 87 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: hasn't gotten to yet that he wished he had. Okay, 88 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: So that's how I took it. So, I mean, because 89 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: you wouldn't have more stuff available with May than No. 90 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: But you'd have different stuff maybe. 91 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: Different, but you have more available. So we didn't have 92 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: some available on it. 93 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: So it was volume it wasn't the type of stuff. 94 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what he said, Like, I'm just wondering. 95 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: I didn't love it. 96 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: Maybe he's itching to get Drake May in there, and 97 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: that's a subtle shot to get him in there. 98 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: I didn't take it that Okay, I like it as 99 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 4: there was stuff that we haven't put in yet. But 100 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: I just would wonder, like either that or stuff I 101 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: didn't have, Like I mean, if you take it literally, 102 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 4: it wasn't on my sheet, so you couldn't call it 103 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 4: because it wasn't on your sheet. You know, it's not listed. 104 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 4: But I think it's more probably the former, you know 105 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 4: about just the breath of options probably isn't not everything 106 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: is in yet. 107 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: Because I guess I was hoping that maybe he was saying, yeah, 108 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: you realize, you know what we're The type of plays 109 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: were limited with Jacoby, and I could see in that 110 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: game that if we had had somebody who could get 111 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: the ball down field, who could throw on the move 112 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: a little bit better, we would have had some options 113 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: in the. 114 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 4: Latter part for sure, because I think May does throw 115 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: better on the run. I think getting the ball downfield, 116 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 4: I mean, Jacoby Brissett is an NFL quarterback. He can 117 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: throw the ball down. 118 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: Accurate too on the move. 119 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: Is that's a different that's a different argument. 120 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: Okay, anything else that you picked out of the offensive coach. 121 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: So there was one thing that he said that and 122 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: I haven't really looked at Twitter to see, like he 123 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: made a comment that he was surprised that they didn't 124 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 4: see more pressure. They didn't get more pressure against Cincinnati, 125 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 4: and I think people couldn't take a step back and say, 126 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 4: oh my god, they were pressured on in some by 127 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 4: some metrics fifty percent of the past place. But I 128 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: think he was talking about in terms of blitz pressure, 129 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: and they didn't. Cincinnati did not blitz very often in 130 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: the game. I think that's what he was talking about. 131 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 5: So maybe. 132 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 4: It caught them off guard a little bit that they 133 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: didn't send extra rushers and therefore they had some things 134 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: maybe lined up to beat that kind of pressure, you know, 135 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 4: and they didn't get a chance to use that stuff, 136 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: you know. Again, kind of trying to read between the 137 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: lines a little bit. But overall, I thought Pelts outed 138 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: pretty happy with the performance in the first game. 139 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 5: You know, obviously some. 140 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: Things they need to clean up, but he felt I 141 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 4: think he was pretty pretty satisfied with the first effort. Okay, 142 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: didn't you get that impression? I mean, you listen to 143 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 4: it after the fact. 144 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: No, I didn't get to listen. I just said I 145 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: was just looking at tweets that were sent out. 146 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: I know you said you didn't see it, you didn't 147 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 4: hear it live. Yeah, but yeah, I nothing really stood out. 148 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: But the comment that he made about the play the 149 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 4: play sheet definitely caught my ear as well as yours. 150 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: So I don't know exactly what he meant by it, 151 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: but I'm not just missing you. 152 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: And of course our media didn't follow up on that. 153 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 6: No. 154 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 4: And I will say this too well, I mean we 155 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: spend a lot of time sort of critiquing and analyzing 156 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: the media, and we don't need to do that. I'm 157 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: guilty of that more than probably anybody. So I'm pointing 158 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: the finger at myself on that. Yeah, I think there's 159 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: a lot of questions that don't need. 160 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: To be asked. 161 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And. 162 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: I just I think there are questions that you know, like, 163 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: you know, the left tackle didn't make it through the 164 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: first quarter, right, what happened? No one asked, right, Like, 165 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: I don't know? 166 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, I just look at it. 167 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: It's football like, it's not like World peace. I know, 168 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 4: like you can't ask him a tough question. That's not 169 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: even that tough, right. You know the guy played twelve plays. 170 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah and jukes right and was never seen from again. 171 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 5: So I don't know. 172 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll see today because we'll get our practice 173 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: report later on. 174 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 4: So it is interesting the you know, you you would 175 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: sort of previewed that Freddie Seattle Is is dealing with 176 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: some injuries right out of the gate. Now I told 177 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: you about their offensive line situation yesterday. They're starting, uh, 178 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: left tackle opened on pup, so veteran George Fance played 179 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: right tackle in the opener. He didn't make it through 180 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: the first quarter. 181 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: So to the third one. 182 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: You know, another player had to come in, you know 183 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: for the third one. So Fant did not practice yesterday 184 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: with that knee injury. So I would say that it's 185 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 4: not looking good for him. In addition to fans though, 186 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: Tyrrell Dotson and h Uchenna Nuasu there are two starting linebackers. Yep, 187 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: neither one of them practiced. Nuasu has already been declared out. 188 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 4: They said he's not going to play. I would think 189 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: against the Patriots, Fred your inside linebackers are somewhat important players, 190 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: don't you think I would think so. The Patriots, we think, 191 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: are going to want to try to run the football, 192 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 4: and if you don't have those guys available, I think 193 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 4: that makes the task of stopping the run a little 194 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: bit more difficult. So I don't know about dotson situation. 195 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: He's listed as a shoulder, but Nuasu, as I said, 196 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: I read something that said they've already said that he 197 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: will not play. Fant is up. 198 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 5: In the air. 199 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 4: And the biggest one out of all is Kenneth Walker, 200 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 4: because I think that's the one that their offense revolves around. 201 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: He's uh, he did d n P with an oblique 202 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: the oblique a as I like to say. So four 203 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: starting players for Seattle did not participate in the first 204 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 4: practice of the week. That's a good sign for New England. 205 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,239 Speaker 4: And meanwhile, City Sow is the only Patriot who didn't practice. 206 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: Well, when you're the aggressor, believe it or not, there's 207 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: less chance of getting hurt. And we're definitely the aggressor 208 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 2: last week. 209 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 4: When you when you're hitting everybody and you're the hammer 210 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: and there the nail nail gets hurt. 211 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 2: That's right. So let's keep let's keep that aggression. But 212 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: Seattle wants to hit you in the mouth too. 213 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 214 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're that type of team as well. 215 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 4: So here's another thing that I didn't really give much 216 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 4: thought to. And I'm going to give Greg Bdard credit 217 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: because I mean, I don't know why I didn't give 218 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: it much thought. But Greg asked Alex van pelt question 219 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 4: about his familiarity with Mike McDonald from Baltimore, you know, 220 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 4: And obviously we made a lot of Van pelts comfort 221 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: level going against Cincinnati last week because it's a division 222 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 4: opponent for him, it's Baltimore too, so he went against 223 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 4: McDonald defenses while with the Browns, you know, and while 224 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: McDonald's with the Ravens. So I think that's another uh, 225 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: you know, small edge for the Patriots heading into this game. Okay, 226 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 4: I'm not saying. I'm just saying, Fred, So I don't want. 227 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: To give it a look for and you know, can 228 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: we move the you know, the time of the game 229 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: up to like noon or eleven o'clock just to make 230 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 2: it a little tougher on the Seahawks. 231 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: It's kind of interesting that that's not a huge thing anymore. 232 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: The traveling. 233 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think I think people know how to travel. 234 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like back in the day, you know, 235 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: traveling wasn't as convenient, wasn't as comfortable nowadays. I know, 236 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: like you know, for the Patriots, we've got their own plane, 237 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: the bigger seats, everything's taken care of for the player. 238 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: So like you don't, they don't. You don't really lose 239 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: any sleep. 240 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: Certainly, they study this stuff so much, and they you know, 241 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: they have. 242 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 5: You know, the. 243 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: Body clock is something that they really they take into 244 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: account a lot of these details, sleep studies and things 245 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: like that and imprission. 246 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: Have we confirmed that Seattle's coming in on Friday? 247 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: I have not confirmed that. 248 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 2: I'm assuming they might. 249 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: You know, I just was, you know, I was listening 250 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: to some of the information on my shows yesterday, and 251 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 4: teams coming west to play on the Eastern time zone 252 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 4: actually have a winning record in the last whatever handful 253 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: of seasons it is. And I do think some of 254 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 4: that is overblown both ways too, because you know, is 255 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 4: it like the Niners playing in the mental lands against 256 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: the Jets when you know, when the Jets were playing 257 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: with Zach Wilson, Yeah, you know, they probably is probably 258 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 4: going to win that game, whether they were ready to play. 259 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: The time that Kansas City goes east that. 260 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 4: Well, that's not a West Coast team. But you said 261 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 4: west coast like from the Pacific time zone to the 262 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 4: Eastern times or they. 263 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: Count like so three hours, okay, so it has to 264 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: be that rams that time Dodgers Seahawks. All right, Friday 265 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: Raiders will included in the raiders. 266 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, were I think? Now, well, this space is still 267 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 4: still three hours, right. 268 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: They land here on Friday, they are coming Friday. 269 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 270 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: I don't remember the West Coast teams doing the the Saturday. 271 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: You know what hotel they're in because they got to 272 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: pull those fire alarms three in the morning. 273 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 4: You gotta get on that. 274 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: I can effort that. 275 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: So I just was a little surprised that the records 276 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: a little bit better than I would have thought. 277 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: All Right, what else we got. 278 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. Well we can find out we got 279 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 4: we can find out, now what's going on in the 280 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: locker room that. 281 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: He goes into the locker room. All jingle is. 282 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: Get back. That's right, Hi, Mike, I'm back. Hello you 283 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: on how are you guys? 284 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: Back from the locker room? 285 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: Back from the locker room, yeah, it was good, good 286 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 3: good stuff. 287 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: What on strike today? 288 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, they didn't shave, you know. 289 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I'm growing a beard. 290 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: Actually, are you really? 291 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I just want to bank everybody mad because 292 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: there's a lot of people here. When you don't shave, 293 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: they're like, you didn't shave. It's like my dad like, 294 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I feel like I'm back in high school, like, no, 295 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 3: shave your face. 296 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 2: And that's why you're growing just to mad. 297 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: No, But I was just like today, I don't really 298 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 3: feel like it. 299 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 5: I was a little lazy. 300 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: So but seriously, it's a little friend. So you're not 301 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: growing about. 302 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: I used to do that though. I used to grow 303 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 3: one in between Thanksgiving and Christmas, a little tradition I 304 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 3: had back in La. But it's too gray now. I 305 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: feel like it'll be. 306 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: Because it was beard. You'll lose that fifty sitcom dapping. 307 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 3: Right right right. Maybe just the mustache. Maybe I'll just 308 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: grow that. We'll see how that looks. 309 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: I like the gray and the beard. Maybe it's because 310 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: it's all my hair is white. 311 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 3: So Paul, you're always telling me about handsome as you're 312 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: wicked hair. You're my biggest fan, said a million times. 313 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 4: Start talking to Laine about it a little bit. 314 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: Lane doesn't like it. Lane not a fan. You gotta 315 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 3: shave the face for the lady, right, Yeah, need this softless. 316 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: So what are we going on in the locker room? 317 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: Oh a little bit, you know, just talking to a 318 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: lot of people. How crazy it is in there now. 319 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: It's just it's so different, And talking to some of 320 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: the reporters, it was there's just so much going on 321 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 3: now and there's so many more players and everybody is 322 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: able to talk to everybody. And I think you're seeing 323 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: some of the news now where you know, everybody's getting 324 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: something different now. It's not like, yeah, it's not the 325 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: past where all right, we had three stroll today and 326 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: this is you know, and this is what the three 327 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: guys said, and that's it. There's a lot more stuff like. 328 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: The thing that we talked about that, you know, and 329 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: Evan told us a little bit about it yesterday, like 330 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: he's talked to Drake May and you know, sort of 331 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: got a peek into the window of what his first 332 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: week as. 333 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 5: The backup was. Like he just posted it. 334 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: By the way, so go to Patriots dot Comence people. 335 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: Probably don't know what we're talking about like in the past, 336 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: when there's only one or two guys there, if all 337 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: the media goes to one guy, everybody gets the same 338 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: story because they're all at the same availability. But what 339 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: Mike Reese used to do is when the scrum would 340 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: go this way, he'd go the other way and pick 341 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: off the one guy that was by himself. So Reese 342 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: would always try to have something different than what the 343 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: herd was writing about. 344 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 4: But it's a lot easier to do that. 345 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: It's now easy to do that, and I think for 346 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: the fan it's much better because you know, you'll go 347 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: around you'll read Callahan from the Herald and or you'll 348 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: read Karen from Clinis, mass Live, mass Live and sorry, 349 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: and you'll get different things. 350 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 7: Yea. 351 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: And that's that's been my goal. And I mean the 352 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: you know, first couple of years I wrote the Notebook, 353 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: and you know, it was a lot of that, and 354 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: then last couple of years kind of gotten away from 355 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: it a little bit. But now it's that's the goal 356 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: every day, is to go and find stuff on my 357 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: own that you know, and and write my own stories 358 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: and not just and here's what everybody's you know, everyone 359 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: knows that stuff that's just the way it was when 360 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: we first started, you know, when Brian was still here, 361 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: and Brian and I would do that, we'd we'd we'd 362 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: sit down, you know, half hour before and say, all, 363 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: you know what, what are some of the things that 364 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: we can sort of target. Yeah, and we would go 365 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: in you know, I don't want to say with a plan, 366 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: because you never know, right until you get pushed in 367 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: the face your plan. 368 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: But we would go in with the plan, and you know, 369 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 4: at least one of us would get something different, and 370 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: then one of us would make sure that we're in 371 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 4: on those big scrums in case, you know, the. 372 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 5: Story of the day. You got to have the story 373 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 5: of the day too. 374 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: You know, like oh, Randy Moss talked, yeah, right, you know, 375 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 4: like he talked infrequently, so someone had to be in 376 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: the scrum. 377 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 5: And then someone would go and yeah, that's FW. 378 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: I've been kind of looking at it with you know, 379 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett speaks like he's starting quarterback. You got to 380 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: you know, show him. But now let's get into you know, today, 381 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: I want to write about the tight end. So talk 382 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: to Bob Bick now about the tight ends. Then went 383 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: into the locker room, talk to Austin Hooper, you know, 384 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: so it's uh, it's good. I mean sometimes you start 385 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: to do it and then the scrum comes in and 386 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, crap, everyone's gonna have this. But uh, 387 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: you know, got enough today, and yeah, it's just I 388 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: think it's it's definitely better for the fans. 389 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 5: So with the. 390 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: Times, and again this is inside baseball. I know people 391 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 4: don't care about the plights of the media, but the 392 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: timing of locker room now makes it more conducive to 393 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: do the stuff that Mike and Fred just talked about. 394 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: It's amazing because there's more players available because they have 395 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: to be here because they're going out to practice. 396 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 2: Right. 397 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: And I'd say this like in the past, when the 398 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 3: locker rooms at the end of the day, the last 399 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 3: thing you want to do at five point thirty is 400 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: all right, now it's time to write, and you got it. 401 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: Now It's like I have the show to kind of 402 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 3: think about what guys said and think about what I 403 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: want to write about it, and have some time to 404 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: kind of marinate on it and you know, write something 405 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: better than just you know, it's seven o'clock and I'm like, 406 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 3: I just want to eat dinner, Like you know, get 407 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: this thing out. So I just I think this whole 408 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: new setup has been really good. 409 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 4: In the locker room today, I did not see. 410 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: I did not see it, so. 411 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: That would have been something, you know. I you know, 412 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: I was in on Taylor Embree a little bit and 413 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: just having him listening to him talk about He sort 414 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: of said that he felt like Stevenson's style is really 415 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 4: conducive to this. He loves Stevenson, you know. He talked 416 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 4: a lot about how many guys he made miss in 417 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: the game. Van Peltz mentioned that as well. I think 418 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 4: he had fourteen for the running back room in the game. 419 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 4: Fourteen forced misstackles, not broken tackles, forced guys to miss, 420 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 4: So that's a pretty it sounds like a pretty high 421 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 4: number to me. But Embry was explaining how it's almost 422 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 4: like a spread offense for a wide receiver, like you 423 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: sort of get a chance to pick and choose your 424 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 4: spot and you know you're going to get a high volume, 425 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: and he thought that was really good for Stevenson. Tamara 426 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 4: asked Embury about Stevenson's Brissette's comment that Stevenson had gone 427 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: to him in the game and said, no more zone. 428 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 4: Let's just go at him. Let's get that field, let's 429 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 4: go with the gap scheme. And you know, Embry said, yeah, 430 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 4: you know, when you get a guy who who's going 431 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: like that and they're on the field, they're the ones 432 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 4: that are experienced, they're seeing it on the field. So yeah, 433 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 4: you take that a consideration. So I thought that was 434 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 4: interesting too, just as another example of maybe not being 435 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 4: with the herd with everybody. You know, you sort of 436 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 4: pick and choose where you go and sometimes you can 437 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 4: get a nugget or too. 438 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 439 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 5: I asked you Ardy about it. 440 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: I was just like, is how different is this because 441 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 3: I was only really there like twenty nineteen when you know, 442 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: then the twenty twenty happened and it was kind of 443 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 3: recess because night and day it is. That's that's the 444 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: same thing he said. So, I mean, at the end 445 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: of the day, I think it's just it's great for 446 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: the fans. There's gonna be a lot more stuff to read, 447 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: and you know, you're not gonna get You're not gonna 448 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: what Evan wrote in posted just a little bit ago. 449 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 5: You're you're not. 450 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: Gonna get that anywhere else, you know. I mean, that's 451 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 3: and I think that's something that's really interesting in the fans. 452 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: What's he doing behind the scenes. 453 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: You know, I think it helps everybody. Did you listen 454 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: to a v P and what what was your interpretation 455 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: of the You know, there were plays I wish were 456 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: on my path. 457 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: It was interesting. 458 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 4: That was interesting. 459 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, honestly, I kind of chalk 460 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: it up a little to inexperience, and I mean, and 461 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: also a new offense, a new team, not really knowing 462 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: exactly what you're gonna need for the game plan. But 463 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: I think what stood out most to me is that 464 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: he continued, like I kind of feel a divergence. I 465 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 3: feel like Mayo was telling us we're gonna run the ball. 466 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: We're gonna run the ball, and I feel like a 467 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 3: VP still given the line of we're gonna morph week 468 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 3: to week and it be a game plan offense. 469 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 4: Said Okay, this week he has been saying, both of 470 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: them have been saying we're gonna run, run, run, run, run, 471 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 4: and and this week they both kind of said, I mean, 472 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 4: I think they probably realized, like, we can't say that. 473 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 2: I said, what's common sense? If they're going to load 474 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: the box, We're not gonna run into a brick wall. 475 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: I just wondered, they're gonna come out spread, you know, 476 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: like this week, Like I would assume Seattle is going 477 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: to say, we're not gonna let Ramandra Stevenson beat us. 478 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: So maybe they just come right out and they're like, Okay, 479 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: we're gonna just spread you out and and try to 480 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: pick you apart. I mean that might be extreme, but. 481 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: So I was kind of hoping that what AVP meant 482 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: was like a little shot at you know, if I 483 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: had Drake Mayon there, I would have had more plays downfield, 484 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: on the run or whatever. But you know, Gary writes 485 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: in and I think he's right. He said what a 486 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: VP meant was that there were flaws in his own 487 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: game plan, and he was self criticized. 488 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think so that you know, 489 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: just didn't quite have everything that he wanted. And I'm 490 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 3: sure that he knows like a lot more than he's 491 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: been able to install yet, and those he probably hasn't 492 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: gotten of those things and didn't have that you know, 493 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 3: left punch. 494 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: So we talked about it a little bit, Fred and 495 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: I and I hadn't really thought about Fred's angle. I 496 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 4: don't really think that was it. I just felt like 497 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: there was stuff that they don't have in yet. Yeah, Like, 498 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 4: if it's stuff that they had in and he's looking 499 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: on his play sheheet, it's not like he doesn't know it. 500 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: I don't think that. I don't think that's the reason 501 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: either what the email or said, Like, I don't think 502 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: he's being self critical. I think he's lamenting that we'd 503 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: I wish I had more at my disposal that they 504 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: don't have yet, not that he didn't like think of 505 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: a play. 506 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 507 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: I think, you know, I think he knows all the 508 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: plays he's been in although system. 509 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: I'll bet you you know, if he is doing his 510 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: own self scouting. You know, it's his first time calling 511 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: plays in a game and I don't know twenty years. 512 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: So I'm sure that there was stuff like he wished 513 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: he had done that. 514 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: Right, But I don't think that you would say I 515 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 4: wish there was stuff on my play sheet. No, I 516 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 4: think he would say, yeah, you know, we had some 517 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: opportunities and I should have missed when I called that, 518 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: Yeah that I missed. Yeah, you know, but he said 519 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 4: I wish we had more on the playsheet, right. I 520 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 4: think they use that exact phrase, who. 521 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: Makes the playsheet him? Right? 522 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he obviously knows all the plays, and if 523 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: it was if there's in other words, if I'm calling 524 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 4: the plays and I have a sheet with ten plays 525 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 4: on it, I know there's you know ten others. I'm like, 526 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: you know what would really work here? It's not on 527 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 4: the sheet, but I'm gonna call it anyway. 528 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: Would it be creazy any type of conversation? He said, 529 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: you know what, let's bring in a VP, and he 530 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: would just walk through the door and answer the question. 531 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: It's more fun to speculate. 532 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 3: We just need like like a like a Neon sign 533 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: right up with like an arrow pointing in like Patriots coach, Like, 534 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: you know, we just flashed with when we want as 535 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: they go to two minutes, two minutes coming in here, we. 536 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: We have an can you send down just for two minutes? 537 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 5: What is it this time? Guys? 538 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think all of these things are in play 539 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: like it's it was kind of unclear. I thought it 540 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: was interesting though, and Fred Fred's may thing. 541 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: I love it. 542 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 2: I love it because I'm I'm on record now. I think, 543 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: what did I say by game six, he'll be in. 544 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 4: I don't know, you just changed all the time. It 545 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: was game one. 546 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: I was wrong with game one, but I was close. 547 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: I was. I had to think about it. But I'm 548 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: saying by game six he will be the story. 549 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: First there was a couple, then it was a few, 550 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: then it was a handful, and then it was a 551 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: half dozen. 552 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: Then there was several. The confusion, I think a handful, 553 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 4: a few, and several. 554 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: A handful could be up to five, several was three, 555 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: it was. 556 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: A dozen, then it was a Baker's dozen. 557 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: Five. 558 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 4: We got to bring that out in the in the pregame. 559 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 4: This week we have more clarification. 560 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 5: Fred curs. 561 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 4: We can go right up limiting five a handful to five. 562 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: All right, what else before we open it up because 563 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 2: we do have to hurry today we have picks. 564 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well I should. I don't know if you 565 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 3: guys are aware, but unfortunately young Alex had a uh 566 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: the disaster, not disaster, but. 567 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 5: Bop the tire. 568 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: So she might be she might have to she might 569 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: be calling in and she doesn't have the run flats. 570 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: She might have to go to you know, bridgetwn. Maybe 571 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 3: you got to get those runs, Suan, Yeah, very very new. 572 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: You get one hundred dollars off this month from Sullivan Tire. 573 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: The sad part was we had in the in our 574 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: bullpen yesterday we had a long conversation about just how 575 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: frustrating car problems are, and they come out of nowhere 576 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 3: and then literally she's like, guess what happened? And then 577 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: a picture flat tires. So so you don't think she'll 578 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: be here. I think she's gonna maybe call in. I 579 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: don't know if she if she don't like the cold, 580 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 3: if you're listening in that coffee shop across from wherever 581 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: you are getting your tire fix. 582 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 2: I don't do drugs. 583 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's too bad to start. 584 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: So little little preview, Paul, you don't want to have 585 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: to get. But if you were atlex, would you want 586 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 2: to be here today? 587 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 4: I think it was a reasonably good start for everybody. 588 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: Oh oh, felt pretty good about it. I'm not bad 589 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: about my pick, so because I forget who I picked, 590 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: the reason why. 591 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 4: I would say there was good moments for everybody, and 592 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 4: there were some not so good moments for everybody. And 593 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: I would say the overall picks, some were better than others, 594 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: but I would say with the spread some. 595 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: Others, we're better than correct. 596 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 4: All right, if everybody had some I do you think 597 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 4: I picked the one, and that's probably we all picked 598 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: the Giants. That might be we should all be suspended 599 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: from take a lap because it's one thing to like. Like, 600 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 4: you know, I picked Indy to pull an upset. I 601 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: was the only one. You know, we lose twenty nine 602 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: to twenty seven. Like I took a shot. I'm wrong, 603 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 4: they covered, but I took a shot. They lost the Giants. 604 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: Like I mean, I I honestly I didn't see it 605 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: coming where the Giants were going to be competing for 606 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: the worst team in the league. But I should have 607 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: see I did. Yeah, I should I should have because. 608 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: Everybody and their brother had three teams in that mix 609 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 4: and one of them one. 610 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 611 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: I think I feel a little validated because that would 612 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: be the Patriots watching hard knots. I just felt like this, 613 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: these guys, I don't know, these guys know what they're doing. 614 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: Like I like Dable, but Joe Shane, I don't. I 615 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 3: don't know, man, I did a lot of heat, get a. 616 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: Lot of heat. But Dabel's body language in those hard 617 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: knocks told me he wanted it to be known that 618 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: I'm not on board with what's going on here, you know, 619 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: And I think the finger pointing if it hasn't already started, 620 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: it's going to start there. 621 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: Well, it's so hard when you're on Hard Knocks, like 622 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 3: with all your off season moves and all your plans, 623 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: and now there's like a record that's available to everybody 624 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: about how you discuss these moves. I mean, you know, 625 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: it's like, I'm not just right. You get to approve 626 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 3: all this, yeah, but but you have no way of knowing, right, Like, 627 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 3: at the point you're approving it, you don't realize that 628 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: it's going to be a disc someone. 629 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: Who didn't watch any of Hard Knocks. You're telling me 630 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: that the impression was that Shane was doing things that 631 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: Dabel didn't like. 632 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: I didn't really get that impression as much. I definitely 633 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: would say this for a long time John Marra didn't like. 634 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 4: Was kind of like, well, I know John Mayra is 635 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: on record is saying he didn't agree with the decision 636 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: to get move on from Yeah. That was That's different 637 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: than Table doesn't doesn't believe in Shane. 638 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: Now Table will just. 639 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 4: Like, but he learned that from Bill, because that's exactly 640 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 4: how Bill used to do with me and Brian Moore. 641 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 3: Just slouched down arm over the head. 642 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, table lost a lot of weight too, did he 643 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 2: I think so? I think he did. 644 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, he does tend to fluctuate, Brian, Yeah, all right. 645 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: In season eight five five PATS five hundred is the 646 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: TPX hotline web radio at pagries dot com is the 647 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: email address. Might as well just open it up. We'll 648 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: see what people have to say, what topics of conversation 649 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: they want to get into. We'll start with Alex in 650 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: San Diego. What's up, Alex? 651 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 8: Hey, guys, what's going on? 652 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 5: Agree with you? 653 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 8: I do think the I do think the Giants are 654 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 8: an absolutely mess right now. It was really interesting watching 655 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 8: Hard Knocks. But anyway, superstoked on win Sunday. These are 656 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 8: definitely like the type of games we did not win 657 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 8: over the last three years. But I know Evan's not 658 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 8: here yet. I know, I don't know if you guys 659 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 8: know what the dealers tackle. Maybe you guys that practice 660 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 8: supports over the last couple of days. But I know, 661 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 8: Paul you touched on it earlier. But this position needs 662 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 8: to be addressed, and we can't. Can't have guys mixed 663 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 8: up in in and out like every two plays. 664 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like low was at the starting left 665 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 3: tackle spot in practice yesterday, so. 666 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 4: They played the balance of the game. 667 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 2: It wasn't it out, yeah, right started, that came out. 668 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: And Aian Low played the rest of it. 669 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: But the bigger point is tackle is still an issue still. 670 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: You can't have six linemen on every play. That's limiting. 671 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: That takes away from your playbook for sure, and that's 672 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: what they had to do in a lot of plays eighteen. 673 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 4: It's a lot of snaps, play with an extra tight 674 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 4: end that's not necessarily going to be a receiver. 675 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: Right yeah. Yeah, So thanks guys, Okay, thanks Alex. 676 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 4: I agree with Alex. Yeah, something that we can you know, 677 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 4: you know me, I'm always concerned. 678 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: Ye Jeff is the main what's up? Jeff? 679 00:28:59,240 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 6: Hey, how are you doing? 680 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 5: Yes? 681 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 6: So I got two things. One, I think one of 682 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 6: the biggest things that I've noticed in the first game, 683 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 6: and I noticed it right away compared to last year, 684 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 6: is when any of our players hits the ground, there's 685 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 6: another player running over to help them up. And last 686 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 6: year it just kind of seemed like people were dejected. 687 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 6: And I think that's a really good sign of team 688 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 6: chemistry and whether that's just Mayo or how the players 689 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 6: feel I was really excited about that just kind of 690 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 6: made me feel good as a Pats fan. And I 691 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 6: think this game on Sunday is going to be really 692 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 6: interesting because I think that our defense matches up really 693 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 6: well the Seattle's offense. They have good receivers. I think 694 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 6: our corners matchup well. Their line isn't great, but Kenneth 695 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 6: Walker is obviously really good, and I think that their 696 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 6: defense matches up really well against our offense. Not that 697 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 6: ours particularly stellar. I know that you guys were talking 698 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 6: about how our linebackers were out, but they have a 699 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 6: really good secondary against our receivers that are not, you know, 700 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 6: known for dominating, and they have a really good defensive line. Yeah, 701 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 6: that's all I got, Thanks guys. 702 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: Thanks Jeff. I want to talk about the first thing 703 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: he said about guys helping out in the body language 704 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: and the enthusiastic I agree that it looked good, but 705 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: I disagree that last year guys weren't helping each other up. 706 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: You know, I think they were. And Paul, you were 707 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: on your show yesterday talking with your two friends about 708 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: how you were this year. You're making fun of in 709 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: that regard, like players didn't give up last year. 710 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: No, especially not. 711 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: They played hard last year too. You don't have a 712 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: defense like they had last year. And I get, you know, 713 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: even if you're playing against backup quarterbacks, you know, giving 714 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: up ten points, seven points in a game without playing hard. 715 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: This is the NFL. They were playing hard last year too, 716 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 2: you know. 717 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: So well, I started saying, like all I heard last 718 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: year the whole year was how close all the games were. 719 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 4: And I remember I would be like, yeah, because all 720 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 4: the games in the NFL are close, right, like most 721 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 4: of it, Like these teams are not. What happened to 722 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 4: Carolina in Week one doesn't generally happen in the NFL. 723 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: Even the bad teams stick their nose in and hang 724 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 4: around in a game. So I'm talking about all the 725 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 4: games were close last and they're like they were like 726 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 4: and Tony the I was like, that weren't. Well, yeah, 727 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 4: I go like Norman Dallas, I go, they weren't playing hard. 728 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 4: They were out of the they were out of it, 729 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 4: and they're losing ten seven, ten six six nothing. 730 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 5: He goes, well, that's just a couple. I go, well, how. 731 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: About like Week one, twenty five, twenty Week two twenty 732 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: four to seventeen. I was like I can go down 733 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: the whole schedule if you want me to. 734 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: I go. 735 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 4: They got blown out by Dallas, and they got blown 736 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: out by New Orleans, right, virtually all the other games 737 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 4: were pretty close. Now, most of those games I didn't 738 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 4: really think the Patriots had much of a chance to win, right, 739 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: Like those ten six tenths, they had a chance to 740 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 4: win those. I didn't really think they had a chance 741 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: to win the twenty four to seventeen game to Miami 742 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: as an example. You know, I thought Miami really controlled 743 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 4: that game. But to say that they didn't play hard, well, 744 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 4: that they didn't care, they weren't trying like this, this 745 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 4: this notion of like these nebulous things that you can't identify. 746 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 4: They just look faster. I can't explain, Okay, I mean 747 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 4: I can't tell you how you thought they looked. Yeah, 748 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 4: but I can tell you that that game plan defensively 749 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 4: was very similar to one I've seen a million times. 750 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: Everything, Billich, Everything looks better when you win, correct, you know, 751 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: everything looks better now. 752 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 4: But also it also helps when you immediately, in my opinion, 753 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 4: you have one way to win. There's there's one blueprint 754 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 4: to win, and they followed it to a t they 755 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 4: got the lead, they played with the lead the whole day. 756 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 4: That's the way they want to play. 757 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: The only thing I would might agree with is last 758 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: year when Mack was on the ground, maybe they didn't 759 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: rush over as quickly to help them. 760 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: And Trent Brown doesn't exactly its zood like enthusiasm. 761 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 4: So that was a that was a good thing. I'm 762 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 4: just glad now that when we watch Keyon White completely 763 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: abused Trent Brown, we can now say that Trent Brown 764 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 4: is not that good because I just kept getting fought 765 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 4: every time I told you that he doesn't try, he 766 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 4: doesn't care. 767 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: You were right, Paul, I. I mean I I think 768 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: I was enamored with his twenty eighteen season and his 769 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: eyes and. 770 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 4: Had a couple of good games when Dante finally lit 771 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 4: a fire down the stretch when they just started running 772 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 4: football with Sony. Yeah, I mean, he has ability, but 773 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 4: there's a reason he was a late round draft pick and. 774 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 3: He's now he's just a placeholder for Amarius Mims. 775 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's not even the starter anymore. 776 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: It's funny though. You said it's something, and I agree 777 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 3: with it. It's just an interesting kind of like thought 778 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: experiment that a game can be close, but you don't 779 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: have a chance to win. 780 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 4: You can't win it, you know, like and when I 781 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 4: say like you can't win, oh the other way, Fred, Right, yeah, 782 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 4: the Patriots games, but you Fred and I were smoking 783 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: cigars mid fourth quarter. No, when the game was over. 784 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: They get up ten three and the game was over. 785 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 6: The game. 786 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 3: That was the with the nod and there. 787 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but like. 788 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 4: Like the Philadelphia game last year, well, obviously the Patriots 789 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 4: had the ball at the end of the game and 790 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 4: they were moving it a little well they really weren't 791 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: moving it, but they had the ball with the chance 792 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 4: to score, so they could have won the game. But 793 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 4: did you have to anybody really think they were going 794 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: to win? 795 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 796 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 4: You know, like in the the Miami game the next 797 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: week was even more of an example of that. You remember, 798 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 4: like they convert a fourth down when they stopped I 799 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 4: think it was was a gaziki that lateraled the ball 800 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 4: to fullah right right, and they like blade of grass 801 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 4: and then they realized it was a bad spot and 802 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 4: they overturned it. Like anybody really think if they got 803 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 4: that first down they were going to go and score. 804 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 4: Like That's how we felt it was a close game. 805 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: About the last Bengals game too, where it was like 806 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 3: the Bengals just rolled them in the first half, then 807 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: took their foot off the gas, made a couple of mistakes, 808 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it's close, but we didn't feel. 809 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 4: I'm going to say this though, on Sunday Week one, 810 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: I think the was it was true, it was close, 811 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 4: but I never thought the Patriots were going to lose. 812 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good pepper. Well, and I'll tell you 813 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: the same thing. 814 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 4: I wish our host could say the same thing. 815 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: The last Super Bowl the Patriots won against the rom 816 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 2: never thought they were going to win that game, even 817 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: though it was a close game. 818 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 4: Yeah that was yeah, that was now. That was more 819 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 4: that one felt. We have Brady, they have golf, you know, advantage. 820 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, right, I but I also right, I thought 821 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 2: our defense had Gof's number. He wasn't gonna be able 822 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 2: to do it. 823 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, but I thought, and I'm you, Fred, 824 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 4: I mean, Mike, you were with me. I never thought 825 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 4: the Patriots were losing that game. Once Cardona caused the fumble, 826 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 4: I gave that's by the way, when I gave the nod, 827 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 4: I said, that's the turn. I haven't given a nod 828 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 4: in favor of the Patriots in a while, but when 829 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 4: they felt naughty fumble, I said, that's game. 830 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 2: Ford and Savannah Georgia. I completely disagree with Paul's take 831 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: from yesterday, which doesn't happen too often. I think Joe 832 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: Burrow wasn't at his very best, but he played well 833 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: enough to win the game. He threw a touchdown that 834 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: was punched out by Kyle Dugger on the one yard line, 835 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: and another touchdown that needed replay to show that it 836 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: was barely fumbled. His eighteen is one B receiver was out. 837 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: His one A receiver joined the team two days before 838 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 2: the game. More of the credit should go to the 839 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 2: Patriots secondary man handling the Bengals third and fourth passing options. 840 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 2: Come at me, Bro, He says. 841 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 4: Oh, I agree with all that, But Mahomes would have 842 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 4: won the game Borrow didn't. That's I mean, he's supposed 843 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 4: to be one of those. Yeah, he's supposed to be 844 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 4: an elite quarterback. 845 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: That's right, he's supposed to. 846 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 4: Overno Malmes would have won the game with his BC 847 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 4: and D receivers. Joe Burrow was content to check it 848 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 4: down like to me, it all comes down to the 849 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 4: very last possession. That was a non competitive possession, and yes, 850 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 4: he's right, he should have had a touchdown. Don't don't 851 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 4: try to play tricky games. Those plays happened consecutively. You 852 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 4: only get one touchdown, not too you know, like it's 853 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 4: easy to say, like when you're the Bengals. You know, 854 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 4: we dropped a touchdown. You know, we had a touchdown 855 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 4: overturned by replay, and then we had a fund It 856 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 4: would only been one touchdown, right, you only drove down 857 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 4: there once. 858 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: That was That was another thing. Fred I listened to 859 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: episode two of Coach with Bill Belichick, Matt Patricia and 860 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 3: this week's host was Michael Barty. I was, I was, 861 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 3: I was playing the hits for the club. 862 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 4: So let me just interrupt for a real quick second. 863 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 4: So Lombardi eviscerated the Falcons. Why do you think that. 864 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 2: Was because he made him look bad? 865 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 4: Because who didn't get hired by the Falcons? 866 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 6: Right? 867 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: Another with us? So there were there, like there wasn't 868 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 3: a lot of Patriots talking. There were some subtle comments though, 869 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 3: one of which was, I mean, you know, Cincinnati, they 870 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 3: don't fumble the ball, they probably win the game. You know, 871 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 3: it was like that. It was some about Stevenson, you know, 872 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 3: finally running north south and holding onto the ball. It 873 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: was I mean, it's the same defense from last year. 874 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 3: There were just those handful of comments from Bill little like. 875 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: Little prediction reminders, prediction. 876 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is going to be like two thousand and 877 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 4: one Patriots. They're going to have this magical run and 878 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,479 Speaker 4: win another Super Bowl. Yeah, Belichick's boat will be called 879 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 4: nine rings. 880 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: There you go. Good one. 881 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 3: As much as I as much as make fun of it, though, 882 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 3: I will say I did. I do enjoy it because 883 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: it's it's more just a free, full conversation about football 884 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 3: and week one and you know, how you get the 885 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 3: team ready for Week one, and you know Bill said, 886 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 3: how you know, just gratifying it is to win that 887 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 3: Week one game after all the offseason, all the work 888 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 3: you put in in the summer and to get that immediate, 889 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 3: you know, kind of return on the investment. But tell Paul, 890 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 3: the interesting thing to me is he said, I would 891 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 3: almost prefer a week win Week two because you are 892 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 3: able to see a game adjust because the other team's adjusting. 893 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 3: I really like Week three better, to be honest, Is. 894 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 2: There anything positive I mean that they said. 895 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 3: Not about not really about the Patriots. They kind of 896 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 3: glossed over it. 897 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 4: There was style, I agree with you, just kind of 898 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 4: the free flow like we're going to talk about week one. 899 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 3: It's more general coach, which I which I kind of 900 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 3: like they'd been watching us. Yeah, it was. I mean, 901 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: I like, I think Lombard's better than Patricia. Patricia just 902 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: you know, seems like he's fine in his feet with it. 903 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 3: But but I as much as I joke about it, it 904 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 3: was they were very praise a lot of praise for 905 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 3: Dallas and their and their personnel and team building and 906 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. 907 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: Here we go. 908 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just. 909 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 4: So the fact it is just to close the window 910 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 4: on that email. I I agree, and I think I 911 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 4: said it many times yesterday, and I know I said 912 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 4: it on my show when I when I went to Sunshine. 913 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 4: The Patriots defense played unbelievable in that game. So let's 914 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 4: not try to make this out to be all Paul's 915 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 4: blaming it on the Bengals not playing. No, he's not. 916 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 4: Patriots out played Cincinnati for sixty full minutes. And I've 917 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 4: said that the postgame show for two hours, and I 918 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 4: said it on Tuesday. I said it on Wednesday, and 919 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: it's still my opinion today. 920 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: My my glow from Sunday is still I still have it. Yeah, 921 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 2: me too, I still have it, me too. 922 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 3: Well, it's you know, the days winning days before the 923 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 3: next contest. But I do have to give Paul, like 924 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 3: I already told him personally. But I just thoroughly enjoyed 925 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 3: him on Felger and Mass yesterday because you know, they 926 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 3: were doing their whole you know thing about well if 927 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 3: you have this record with May and you know, and 928 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 3: so finally Paul, Paul's just like laying doing what Paul does, 929 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 3: like just you know, going right back at him like 930 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 3: you know, which not a lot of people can do. 931 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 3: And finally Tony Masters is like, it's just not fun anymore. 932 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: Well, no, but Paul had to drop. I go. I 933 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: brought logic to well. The mic drop for Paul was 934 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 2: if they're three and fourteen? Not a lot went. 935 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 3: Well, right, right? How do you have it right? 936 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: How right? 937 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 4: He's I don't understand how anybody would be excited about 938 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 4: three and fourteen? 939 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: Right? 940 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 4: If Drake May plays he clearly didn't play it. 941 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 2: It's hard to say, Oh, they were three and fourteen, 942 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 2: but Drake May had this great right, And. 943 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 4: I don't really remember all the specifics, but I can't 944 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 4: imagine everybody in Indianapolis was like, this is awesome. When 945 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 4: Peyton Manning went three and thirteen and threw twenty eight picks. 946 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 3: Right, doubt creeps in you. 947 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 4: Now, maybe someone looked at it and said, yeah, he's 948 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 4: making a lot of mistakes, but we got something. Maybe 949 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. Like I said, I didn't watch them. 950 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 4: They might I didn't watch the nineteen ninety eight season 951 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 4: that intently to know, right, But I can't imagine you 952 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 4: feel great right winning three games, even if your quarterback 953 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 4: played right. 954 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 3: You were busy covering high school sports. Probably at that 955 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 3: time I would guess. 956 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I was still with the hell doing Agate 957 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 4: among other things, and when I was done, I went home. 958 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 2: All right, back to the TPS hotline. Todd's in North Carolina. 959 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 9: What's up, Todd, gentlemen. 960 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 10: I like you behind those deaths better than the reciners. 961 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 10: You look really good. 962 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 2: Preach Todd seems to be the consensus. I like the 963 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 2: comfortable chairs, though. 964 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 5: I like though they were switching it up a little bit. 965 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 4: I think there's a room for both. 966 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 2: Well, this is to help Matt. He can he can 967 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 2: keep this desk up throughout the weekend because on Monday 968 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 2: when EEI comes in, they use the desk. 969 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 5: Plus we use the desk for the post. 970 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 2: Twenty two is gonna who's anyone after us? 971 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 10: Ye? 972 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 2: Catch twenty twos right coming in and they use the desk. 973 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 2: So what makes it easier for Matt? 974 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 975 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got to put like that back thing on 976 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 3: with like support and he's lifting stuff like yeah. 977 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 10: So my pod guy is about what a VP. 978 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,959 Speaker 5: Sorry Todd, No, No, You're good. 979 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 10: Like I've enjoying you guys have a quiet optimism that 980 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 10: I haven't seen for a while. Like you guys have 981 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 10: you a bit of a Juana v back And I 982 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 10: appreciate it from all three of you. It's it's great 983 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 10: to see. My thought about what a VP was saying 984 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 10: with respect to not being able to do everything. I 985 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 10: think it's because he felt that he had to have 986 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 10: the sixth linemen in there a lot of times and 987 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 10: they just couldn't. 988 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,479 Speaker 2: That's a good point. 989 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 10: The things that wanted to do is that that was 990 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 10: what kind of what I took that to mean that 991 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 10: you know, we were kind of limited because we were 992 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 10: just trying to figure out how we're going to get 993 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 10: our blocking and do these other things, and we just 994 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 10: couldn't open up the whole playbook because of the ability 995 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 10: of the Bengals to get after us and get the 996 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 10: pressure through with only four. 997 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 2: Know, we talked about that early. How having that extra 998 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: linement in limits you, It has to limit you. 999 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1000 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 4: I think that's a good point. Yeah, I think you 1001 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 4: know you brought that up, Fred, like when it's a 1002 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 4: third one to you can go three tight ends and 1003 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 4: not be limited, but when the third tight end is 1004 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 4: a tackle, it limits you. 1005 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. That was one question I was going to ask 1006 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 3: bick now if I didn't quite get to it, but 1007 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 3: I was like Kaid Waller's cats at all, we're gonna 1008 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 3: slip them out into the flatters, Like. 1009 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 4: That'd be something you'd have to be conscious of, like 1010 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 4: around the goal line, Like you're not going to throw 1011 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 4: it to him at the fifty yard line Like that 1012 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 4: sold him, Like Rabel was was a pretty good athlete, 1013 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 4: but and they didn't throw it to him unless they 1014 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 4: were in the red. 1015 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 3: So yes, seven catches for seven touchdowns. Ten Sorry, how 1016 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 3: did I miss that up? 1017 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 2: Sorry? 1018 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 5: Mike? 1019 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't come out me. 1020 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 2: Bill's in Oklahoma. What's up? Bill? 1021 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 11: I really like the news set. I haven't had a 1022 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 11: chance calling in a while, and I just want to 1023 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 11: get whoever designed that and put it together. Props on 1024 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 11: that one, great job. 1025 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 2: Not me. I'll give props to Provost Studios. 1026 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 11: Well, there you go. 1027 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 2: And Matt, you're on the You're on air, Matt. 1028 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 4: You just found out how the sausage just made. That's 1029 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 4: why how Fred gets his lunch every day. 1030 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, well. 1031 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 5: You hear it. 1032 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 2: It was just going to you guys, got the air 1033 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: well went today? All right? 1034 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 3: Sorry, Bill, go have bell. 1035 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, You're. 1036 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 9: Fine, You're fine. 1037 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 11: I want to check and kind of switch gears and 1038 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 11: see if you all and Apolo we talked about it 1039 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 11: maybe yesterday. The Van Natta story on ESPN about Craft 1040 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 11: being shut out of the Hall of Fame. 1041 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 2: Yep. 1042 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 11: Have you had a chance to talk about that or 1043 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 11: read it? 1044 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 2: I have read it. 1045 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, we all, we all read it. It's unfortunate because 1046 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 4: I think we all agree. I mean, this is gonna 1047 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 4: be a controversial opinion. We all agree that Robert should 1048 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 4: be in the Hall of Fame. But I mean it's 1049 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 4: unfortunate when it seems like they're like personal things that 1050 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 4: are getting in the way. I don't think that that 1051 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 4: should come into play when you're voting for something like that. 1052 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, none of these first of all, owners 1053 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 2: shouldn't be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 1054 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 3: That's Tony mass thing. 1055 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: I like, I just don't think they should. But that's 1056 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 2: that was Frank Kirsch. But no, but the Cats out 1057 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: of the bag now. So they are, And if they are, 1058 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 2: there's no other owner that deserves to be in it 1059 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 2: more than Robert Kraft that that's no doubt. Don't get 1060 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 2: me started with the whole spygate stuff, you know, Like just. 1061 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 4: I'm talking about the personal stuff. R like that to 1062 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 4: me is ridiculous. That shouldn't even be in consideration, right, 1063 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 4: Like you're rubbing people the wrong way because your desire 1064 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 4: to be in the like, that shouldn't be part. 1065 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 2: Of it, right. 1066 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 3: I just I just think it's ridiculous. I just think 1067 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 3: the NFL is so petty. There's so much pettiness in 1068 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 3: the NFL between all of these franchises, and like they're 1069 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 3: praising Jerry Jones for like making the NFL what it was, Well, 1070 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 3: guess what Robert Kraft took this team? What did he 1071 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 3: buy it for? What was the amount twenty something million dollars. 1072 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: One hundred and seventy million. 1073 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 3: I mean, Craft and the Patriots have defined this century 1074 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 3: of the NFL. So to sit there and like give 1075 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 3: Jerry Jones all this praise for you know, what he 1076 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 3: did back in the eighties and or nineties, even like 1077 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 3: it's ridiculous, And I also, like, I just take personal 1078 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 3: issue with it because having gone here as a kid, 1079 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 3: and it was a dump, and it was a terrible stadium, 1080 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 3: a terrible experience. And now what he has brought to 1081 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 3: this whole area, with this whole Trader Joe's and all that, 1082 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 3: Like I mean, I mean, this place is all transformed fromhim. 1083 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 3: He transformed the NFL. Might have wonderful salads and breadsticks 1084 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 3: all because of Robert Craft, and I thank him. But seriously, though, like, 1085 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 3: is anyone going to say that the Patriots haven't defined 1086 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 3: the last two decades of this league and and and 1087 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 3: made it the global brandan that it is? 1088 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: Did Robert Craft make pro football better? That should be 1089 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 2: for owners, that should be the criteria, And the answer 1090 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 2: has to be yes. When you think about it. 1091 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 4: Go ahead, No, I was I did. It's unequivocally yes. 1092 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 4: I don't think there's an argument on the other side 1093 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 4: against Robert Craft. I would just say that Jerry Jones 1094 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 4: was instrumental. 1095 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 2: No, No, and Jones should be in. 1096 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 4: Like again, Joan should be into like this notion that 1097 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 4: Jones doesn't belong because he hasn't won anything in thirty years. 1098 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 2: Jones should be in. But that means that Craft should 1099 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 2: be in double you know what I mean? 1100 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 4: Like right now, there's nobody that should even be in 1101 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 4: consideration other than Robert Craft. Right, I'm just saying, don't 1102 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 4: discredit what Jones did as an owner when he came 1103 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 4: in in eighty nine and the league was not near Jones. 1104 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,720 Speaker 2: Jones opened up new sources of revenue for the owners. 1105 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 2: He taught them the way to get the most out 1106 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 2: of their marketing deals. It started with PEPSI back in 1107 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 2: the day where instead of you know, having Coke, was 1108 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 2: you know, the league partner. So teams like, whoa, we 1109 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 2: can't have another soda And Jerry says, no, I own 1110 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 2: my stadium. It's not going to be a deal with 1111 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 2: the team. It's going to be a deal with our stadium, 1112 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 2: and that opened up the way, and the Patriots were 1113 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 2: right on his coattails doing the. 1114 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 4: Same thing Robert Craft has done with you know, as 1115 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 4: your point, Mike to put the Patriots. It's not just 1116 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 4: about winning. I mean, obviously a winning is a huge 1117 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 4: part of it, but it's so much more than that. 1118 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 4: You're involved in the you know, in the lockout in 1119 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 4: twenty eleven, you're involved with the TV contracts that are 1120 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 4: putting finding more and more revenue streams. 1121 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 3: For the league. 1122 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 5: You're growing the league. 1123 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what guys like Jerry Jones and Robert Craft have. 1124 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 2: They grew the league and they made it better for fans. 1125 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: They also made it better for the players. These sources 1126 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 2: of revenue makes it better for the players because it's 1127 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 2: a collective bargain and they get fifty one percent of 1128 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 2: the profits. So the more money you bring in, the 1129 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 2: more the players get in. So the players have them 1130 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:37,439 Speaker 2: to think too. 1131 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 6: You know. 1132 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 2: The other thing, back to the stadium, it's not so 1133 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 2: much that he built it and all that and Patriot Place. 1134 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 2: That doesn't make pro football better. But what it does 1135 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 2: make it better is he financed this without taxpayer money. 1136 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah right, you know, And that made it better for fans. 1137 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 2: He was able to finance this without PSLs and all 1138 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 2: the all the owners got criticized for PSLs because it's 1139 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 2: kind of it's scamish a little bit, you know, sure, 1140 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 2: but the crafts and Jonathan was a big part of this, 1141 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 2: figured out a way to finance it through the contracts 1142 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 2: with the club seats and you know that's you know, 1143 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 2: there's no smoking mirrors there like there is with PSLs, 1144 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 2: and so that made it better for season ticket members 1145 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 2: to buy their tickets. And so there's a lot of things. 1146 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 2: But you know, Paul mentioned all the broadcasts he should 1147 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 2: be in. If there's any owner that should be in, 1148 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 2: he should be in. And you know what all that article, 1149 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 2: you know, the article agreed with that. By the way, 1150 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 2: the article was. 1151 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 5: Very fair in terms of that. 1152 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 4: It just kind of illustrated the pettiness of these guys 1153 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 4: that vote. 1154 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know it mentioned that, you know, 1155 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 2: maybe the Patriots were a little bit too aggressive lobbying, 1156 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,479 Speaker 2: and okay, fine, but like when you're watching all these 1157 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 2: people get in, you start to get like urgent, you know, like. 1158 00:49:55,320 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 4: Bowline, no disrespect, like rest in peace? What has he 1159 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 4: done that Robert didn't do. 1160 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 2: And you know, knock on wood. You know, Robert Craft's 1161 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 2: in really good health for a guy who's eighty three. 1162 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 2: Pat Bowland wasn't, and they said that that might have 1163 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 2: been a factor to get him in sooner. But listen, 1164 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 2: he's eighty three, Get him in now, Get him in now. 1165 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's just in some ways I see 1166 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 3: it as Jerry Jones passing the baton to Robert Craft. 1167 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 3: And I mean just the way that this game has 1168 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 3: changed with social media, with the globalization of it. I 1169 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 3: mean all these markets. I mean, we're in Germany, we're 1170 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 3: in Brazil now, Like how much does Robert Craft. He's 1171 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 3: a huge role in all of that. So that's the 1172 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 3: stuff that matters to me. The winning the on field controversy, 1173 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,320 Speaker 3: that doesn't matter if I had to put an owner in. 1174 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 3: It's about growing. 1175 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 2: Did you make the game better? Yeah? Did you make 1176 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 2: the game better? That's what an owner can do to 1177 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 2: get into the Hall of Fame because obviously they're not coaching, 1178 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 2: they're not on the field. That's what they can do 1179 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 2: to earn a right to get. 1180 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 3: And building bridges too, I mean, I know that's the 1181 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 3: best common you know, the best example is eleven and 1182 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 3: you know Robert being credited with you know, playing a 1183 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 3: big part in ending the lockout. But you know, it's 1184 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 3: it's it's more than that. And I mean I talked 1185 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 3: about around here. It's just on a personal level, but 1186 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 3: I think it means a lot to this community. 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N C stayed losing to uh 1233 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 7: tennessee him and Joe. But uh, back to your question. 1234 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 7: You know, obviously watching the film and seeing a lot 1235 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 7: of things that you know as a as a team, 1236 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 7: as an offense, and obviously personally that you know, rooms 1237 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 7: and improve improvement, and we were joking about yesterday or Monday. 1238 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 7: It was like it's always better to learn from a 1239 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 7: win than a loss. But uh so excited to get 1240 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 7: back on the practice feeling and correct those correct those 1241 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,439 Speaker 7: things and get moving forward. 1242 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 8: He was talking to about, how did you guys thinking 1243 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 8: of the help? Yeah, what does that mean for you? 1244 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 8: What sort of tea body experience? 1245 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 7: Is it like when you team bond? And I don't 1246 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 7: know about that, but uh no, but he's right. We 1247 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 7: got to the point where it was just we saw 1248 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 7: what type of game it turned into, and uh, you know, 1249 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,280 Speaker 7: the cool part was is like it was no egos 1250 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 7: in the huddle, you know, and everybody kind of you know, 1251 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,280 Speaker 7: bought into it and realized like you know, we're running 1252 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 7: one play the whole time, you know what I mean, 1253 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 7: and they're not stopping it, so why why change it? 1254 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 7: And uh, you know that was I think that was 1255 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 7: one of the more cooler moments in my uh you 1256 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 7: know career. Everybody in the huddle is saying, like, let's 1257 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 7: take them to the hill because we knew we were 1258 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 7: in that much better shape than they were, and uh, 1259 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 7: you know, I think it paid off. 1260 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 5: How important is it for the players to kind of 1261 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 5: seeo process, whether it's you guys running the hill and being. 1262 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 4: Better conditioned, whether it's a game plan, how how important 1263 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 4: is it for to get results from what results are preaching? 1264 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's it's it's really good just because 1265 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 7: from the standpoint of you know, it's you see the 1266 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 7: direction that we're trying to go, you know, and you 1267 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 7: see what happens when you know you do follow the 1268 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 7: process and you do buy into the plan. I mean, obviously, 1269 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 7: some day, some days you're gonna you're gonna do that 1270 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 7: and you're not gonna get the results you want. But 1271 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 7: you know, I think it's even more apparent after you know, 1272 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 7: you do get those results, it's now you gotta double down. 1273 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:47,800 Speaker 7: On it even more because you know, it's it shows 1274 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 7: you that you can't take that much more of a 1275 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 7: you know, I think a slack in the preparation to 1276 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 7: get you to the game. 1277 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 4: Be looking forward to this Sunday, How do you see 1278 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 4: the sort of challenges that the Seahawks defense and do 1279 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 4: you see similarities through what the Ravens did the last Sea? 1280 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 10: Yeah? 1281 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 7: Obviously, you know Mike, Mike has done a good job 1282 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 7: dating back to his raven days and and uh, you 1283 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 7: know the way he calls the games and then and 1284 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 7: you know, dating back to the Ravens and even like 1285 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 7: this year, with those guys, they keep you on your toes. 1286 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 7: You know, I got a lot of really good players 1287 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,240 Speaker 7: on defense, guys that have made the Pro Bowl and 1288 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 7: some of the better better players in this league. And 1289 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,760 Speaker 7: so he uses those guys very well within his scheme. 1290 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 2: You know. 1291 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 7: So we got to be on our p's and q's. 1292 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,319 Speaker 2: Is gonna be a big one for us. 1293 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,240 Speaker 7: Obviously it starts today with you know, first and second 1294 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,800 Speaker 7: down and trying to you know, master that play right now, uh, 1295 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 7: and then moving forward throughout the week because the the 1296 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 7: more like the third downs and red zones and the 1297 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 7: situation gets that's when uh, you know, they get better. 1298 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 8: Defense all summer. 1299 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 7: Do you see these similarities the way that you know 1300 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 7: Baltimore but now Seattle wants to play in the way 1301 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 7: that you guys play the defensive somewhat similar obviously. Uh, 1302 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 7: you know, you get a lot of different looks up 1303 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 7: from the with the guys obviously had a good cover 1304 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 7: guy of which we do when they do as well. 1305 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 8: Uh. 1306 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 7: And I think taking that approach and you know you 1307 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 7: kind of I guess screwing with the you know, the 1308 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 7: offensive rules as far as like protection or run game 1309 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 7: and things like that. I think that's what this style 1310 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 7: of defense tries to do really well. I mean, that's 1311 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 7: what they do really well. Uh So uh, like I said, 1312 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 7: first and second down, so kind of trying to you know, 1313 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 7: put that in his own bucket and take care of 1314 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 7: for that. 1315 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 14: With yourun talked about the ability for a team to 1316 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 14: be able to make changes on the fly as things 1317 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 14: are going on. What gives you confidence that your offense 1318 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 14: can see one thing and then make a change to 1319 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 14: do another thing if that is what you. 1320 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 7: Need to do, Because that's what we did Sunday, you know, 1321 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 7: it was it was a couple of looks that we 1322 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 7: thought we were getting based on the scout report, and uh, 1323 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 7: you know, and I mean from a VP and those 1324 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 7: guys playing Cincinnati and lou whiles ago, and we came 1325 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 7: out and they gave us different looks, and therefore it 1326 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 7: led to some different different calls for us to make 1327 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 7: towards the end of the game. And I think you 1328 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 7: saw that as far as like some of our run 1329 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 7: game calls were a little different than we expected, and 1330 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 7: putting in our guys being able to you know, change 1331 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 7: on the fly, as far as like making like alerts 1332 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 7: on the play or checks on the play within the play, 1333 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So I thought that was 1334 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 7: good for us to see that, And and that just 1335 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 7: goes back to our ability to adapt in and you know, 1336 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 7: learn them the fly. 1337 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 3: COVID taking your five question first year as a starter, 1338 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 3: you'll have the league in sacks, but play it seems 1339 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 3: like your ability. 1340 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 4: To feign pressure has improved throughout the years. 1341 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 2: I have you done that just beyond the offensive lines. 1342 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 7: Pect, I mean, I think it it. I've been fortunate 1343 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 7: to play on really good old lines. I think that 1344 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 7: plays a part in it. Understanding football a little bit more, 1345 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 7: uh you know, being okay with you know, throwing throwing 1346 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 7: the ball away. 1347 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 2: I think, uh, you. 1348 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 7: Know, I'll see that you're a completion percentage context hit, 1349 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 7: but it's it's I think that's better than a second 1350 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 7: getting into negative yards. And I think understanding that you 1351 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 7: know more now, am I, I guess older days than 1352 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 7: I was when I was when I was younger in 1353 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 7: the league. I think that's definitely has paid off. And 1354 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 7: watching really good quarterbacks honestly do it for a while, 1355 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 7: watching Tom and Philip and Andrews finding ways to you know, 1356 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 7: not get negative plays, you know, so I think that 1357 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 7: definitely played a part of it. 1358 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 4: The second laf of that game against Cincinnati had a 1359 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 4: deep attempt down the field to type one. 1360 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 7: I'm just wondering how important you think it is to 1361 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 7: try to get him involved down the field, just show 1362 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 7: a willingness to even make those types of pros to 1363 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 7: maybe try to soften the defense up for your running. Yeah, 1364 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 7: you know, I think that's definitely important just because of 1365 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 7: you know, who he is as a player, you know, 1366 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 7: I mean, being able to stretch your field. I mean, 1367 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 7: it's one of the fastest, if not the fastest. Yode 1368 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 7: On our team, you know, his ability to get down 1369 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 7: the field at a fast rate. Definitely got to try to, 1370 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 7: you know, make the defense feel like that's a possibility, 1371 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 7: you know, and obviously when we get chances to hit him. 1372 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 7: But I think we did that one time, and then 1373 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 7: the next time, you know, they're playing completely soft zone 1374 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 7: on him, he sits in his own and gets a 1375 00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 7: big completion. So I think a lot of those things Ona, 1376 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 7: you know, play hand to hand each other with each other, 1377 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 7: and so definitely finding more ways to not just with him, 1378 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 7: with other guys as well, you know, try to exploit 1379 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 7: some of those things. 1380 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you. 1381 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 1: YEA great moments in. 1382 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 2: History. Evan lecturing Tamara about local cuisine. Didn't he eat 1383 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 2: McDonald's in Germany? No, that was me. 1384 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 5: I did not eat. 1385 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 4: That was actually Samara, I run Alex and Matisza. 1386 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 2: I had McDonald's twice in Joan, don't throw me in that? Wait? 1387 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 5: Wait did you get five guys? 1388 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 4: I went to podcast, but I also had the Schnitzel. 1389 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 5: Wait, but I. 1390 01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 2: Will call out. 1391 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 5: I will call Evan on this. 1392 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 2: He was too good for German coffee. 1393 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 5: He had to have stars. 1394 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 2: That's true. 1395 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 4: But ill you recall that I immediately texted Beth and said, oh, 1396 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 4: you'd like Evan, but I what Starbucks. 1397 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 5: I'm sure it doesn't surprise anybody that I am a 1398 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 5: food snob. That's food. That's what I'm saying. 1399 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 2: Surprise anybody, Patrick Patrick and Ottawa thinks I'm a food 1400 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 2: snow he says, when Fred, when Fred speaks of food, 1401 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 2: it's with such snobbery. 1402 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 4: Yes, there's no question heils it. 1403 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 2: He channels the soul of Eric. 1404 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 4: You tell everybody, don't get this, get this. 1405 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 2: This is the better I can't may Baker Fred. 1406 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 5: I feel like Fred and I are on the same wavelength. 1407 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 5: But he takes he does it a little bit more 1408 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 5: than I do. 1409 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,959 Speaker 4: He's worse than you at it. Yes, smash one before 1410 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 4: smash Burger is the tavern burger. That's the one that's 1411 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 4: the one that you're wasting your time with. The Whiskey 1412 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 4: river barbere no. 1413 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 2: Mayo on it. 1414 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 3: Don't put Mayo on it. 1415 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mayo ruined it. H Mayo. 1416 01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,919 Speaker 3: Fred's always telling me not to put on something. 1417 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 1: That's another great moment. 1418 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 2: All right back here on Patriots on Filter at eight 1419 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 2: five five pass five hundred is the TPX Hotline web 1420 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 2: radio at Patriots dot com. It's the email address. It's 1421 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 2: Duce Paul, myself. Evan will be here soon. We're gonna 1422 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 2: do picks. Yeah. 1423 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Alex got three tires. 1424 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Alex is not going to be here. She has, 1425 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 2: but she has sent her picks in. I have the picks, 1426 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 2: so she'll be legit. Yeah, we'll have us pick in 1427 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 2: on time. Yeah. And you know it's it's actually tougher 1428 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 2: to mail him in because you don't listen to anyone else. 1429 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 2: You can't be swayed. It has all right, anything else 1430 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 2: before we get back to our callers and emailers. O, 1431 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 2: why don't we be listener driven? Okay, all right, let's 1432 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 2: go to Christian in Virginia. What's up Christian? Christian? 1433 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 15: Hey, how's it going good. 1434 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 9: I've got a question. Do you guys think that the 1435 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,919 Speaker 9: tight ends are going to be utilized more in this game? 1436 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 9: In the preseason, you know, we kind of were assuming 1437 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 9: that they were going to be used a lot, and 1438 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 9: then we didn't see a lot of them going against 1439 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 9: the Bengals. But I would also credit that just to 1440 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 9: the injuries in that position. But yeah, I'll take it 1441 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 9: off their community. 1442 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 5: Okay, it's a great question. 1443 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 3: That's why I'm going to write about the tight ends today. 1444 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 3: I just I think, you know, we saw a lot 1445 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 3: of them in the in the summer. Hooper very experienced. 1446 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 3: But I just think with the way that Seattle likes 1447 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 3: to send random guys, having two smart veteran tight ends 1448 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 3: who know where to go and know, you know, it's 1449 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 3: the easy passes for Brissette. Instead of hoping that all right, 1450 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 3: he's going to start connecting with Taye kwont this game 1451 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 3: and you know it's going to be three twenty yard 1452 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 3: path that's hard to really hope for. I don't think 1453 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 3: it's hard to hope that those two tight ends are 1454 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 3: more productive they I mean, I think they. 1455 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 2: Catches the injuries to their linebackers. Maybe you can exploit. 1456 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 3: That right right, so you know, like I said, I 1457 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 3: think they have five catches last game buying, but but 1458 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 3: there were a couple of key catches you know, for 1459 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 3: them down down the way, So we'll see. I think 1460 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 3: it's an easy step maybe to start to unlock the 1461 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 3: passing game a little bit, involve those two tight ends 1462 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 3: a little bit more. 1463 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're basically just talking about throwing the ball 1464 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 4: to them because they yeah, they both played a ton yeah. Yeah, 1465 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 4: and I think when you add in the eighteen snaps 1466 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 4: from Wallace, that's a lot of tight end work, Like 1467 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 4: they ran the ball yeah predominantly. So yeah, I mean 1468 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 4: I think that that that could change. I think Mike 1469 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 4: has got it. With some pressure and stuff, you might 1470 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 4: have some quick, easy outlets. I think Hooper was the 1471 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 4: target on one of those early Yeah. Yeah, I think 1472 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 4: they're healthy. I think they played a ton Hunter Henry 1473 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 4: and Austin Hooper. Yeah, just involved in health thing. They 1474 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 4: both were out there a lot. 1475 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 3: And uh and Bicknell was very uh, you know, just 1476 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 3: complimentary about their willingness to block and to get in there. 1477 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 3: I mean, and neither one of them are you know, 1478 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 3: necessarily what they're known for. But yeah, I got some 1479 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 3: good stuff out of him just about I asked him like, 1480 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 3: are they complimentary because they seem very similar, and he 1481 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 3: actually ran down Like when I first got here, I 1482 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 3: you know, went in and kind of studied them. So 1483 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 3: we had some good stuff just about how they kind 1484 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 3: of you know, differentiate the two guys. 1485 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm looking I'm looking ahead to when 1486 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 2: May comes in. Anything they can do to develop the 1487 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 2: passing game is going to be good for when he 1488 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 2: does play. At the same time, if they can continue 1489 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 2: to keep that identity as a running team, like you know, 1490 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 2: we're gonna run, We're gonna run it anyway and we're 1491 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 2: going to be successful. That's going to help May too. 1492 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 2: You know, keep teams on their on their heels. 1493 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 4: So if you can run the ball like that and 1494 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 4: then have a passing game to go with it, now 1495 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 4: you've become an explosive offense. 1496 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's like at this point, it's like, 1497 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 3: all right, you know that Stevens is gonna be here 1498 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 3: for a couple more years, so you know, you know 1499 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 3: you got him. But they really seem to believe in him. 1500 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 3: When Paul talked about Taylor Embery, how high they are 1501 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 3: on him and his potential. So he's he's going to 1502 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 3: be a piece when when May does get there and 1503 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 3: you know into next year. 1504 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:57,800 Speaker 4: In the year after I did, like some of the 1505 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 4: coaches answers, you know, Van Pelt was asked about it, 1506 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 4: everybody was asked about it, like you know, what did 1507 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 4: you because he surprised you, you know, and did what 1508 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 4: were your thoughts on Stevenson And like they're like, no, 1509 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 4: like we watched this guy, he's one of He's a 1510 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 4: really good back. He runs with a lot of power. 1511 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 4: We saw him breaking a lot of tackles, I think 1512 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 4: Van Pelt said, we saw him breaking a lot of tackles, 1513 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 4: you know, in the past years too. Like I don't know, 1514 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 4: like maybe Mayo was right, maybe some of the media 1515 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,439 Speaker 4: corps didn't really understand that reminder. Stevenson is a pretty 1516 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 4: good back. 1517 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, I think nationally he gets 1518 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 2: put aside, you know, in the past because he was 1519 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 2: out a lot with the injuries. 1520 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 4: You know, he was well, I don't think he's like nationally, 1521 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 4: I don't think he's one of those guys talked. 1522 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 2: About like if he had if he continues the season 1523 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 2: he's had in that first game, he will be talked 1524 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 2: about like that. But in the past, you know, like 1525 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 2: he wasn't in that group of elite backs in the NFL. 1526 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 3: Now, I mean, I think he was good. He was 1527 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 3: like one hundred and twenty yards. I mean it was 1528 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 3: like his third highest total of his career. You know, 1529 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 3: So he's not he hasn't had overwhelming production. He's been 1530 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 3: hurt a little bit. His best season twenty twenty two. 1531 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 2: And the rest of the offense held him back. I 1532 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 2: think just the ineptness of the offense as a whole. 1533 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 4: He's not talk to Anbury about this too, about the workload, 1534 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 4: like he's not gonna like. They don't want that. They 1535 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 4: don't want him getting twenty five carries every week. That 1536 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 4: was not necessarily something they did by design, but they 1537 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 4: rode the hot hand clearly. It was better when he 1538 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 4: was getting the carries than it was when Gibson. No 1539 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 4: offense to Gibson, it wasn't his fault, right, but I 1540 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 4: thought Stevenson was doing a better job of making those 1541 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 4: guys miss. I think Gibson made guys miss on some 1542 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 4: three yard runs. I thought he was breaking tackles in 1543 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 4: the backfield. Yeah, you know, I think he also. I 1544 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 4: think Evan said he felt like he left some yards 1545 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 4: out there. Yeah, Gibson to just being on the injury 1546 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,920 Speaker 4: report too. I might have been little bit, but I 1547 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 4: think he was good this summer, and I think he'll 1548 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 4: be a good complimentary piece, you know, even maybe a 1549 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,320 Speaker 4: little bit more of a pass catcher, but still balanced, 1550 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 4: like like the Andreas. 1551 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 2: Uh Brads in Ohio. What's up Brad Brad today? Good morning, afternoon, 1552 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,439 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, good morning, wherever you are. 1553 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 15: What's happen, Brad from Ohio, the Michigan the Michigan fan. 1554 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 15: That's uh, you know, feeling pretty bad after last week 1555 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 15: and probably looking that way the rest of the season 1556 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:30,000 Speaker 15: for them. Uh. Anyway, I just wanted to call and 1557 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 15: see how you guys were thinking about a couple of 1558 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 15: things here city now is do we have any news 1559 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 15: about anything? I mean, it's it's not a serious injury, right. 1560 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't look 1561 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:45,639 Speaker 2: for him this week. 1562 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,799 Speaker 3: But yeah, no, unless something. 1563 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 9: From someone that can. 1564 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,439 Speaker 15: You know, with LANDA Robinson, you know, in the way 1565 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 15: he played, he's being I don't think you I don't 1566 01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,679 Speaker 15: want to say being overlooked, but I mean, if he's 1567 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 15: just gonna to be another good grun blocker we got 1568 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,840 Speaker 15: if we can get him in there, yeah, be healthy, 1569 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 15: because that's what he was good at doing, right. 1570 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,639 Speaker 2: He's a he's a good guard. He's a good guard. 1571 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not so worried about the interior right now, 1572 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 2: you know. My thoughts are to the outside. Yeah, I'm 1573 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 2: a little worried. Thanks Brad. 1574 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 3: Nature yeah, I just I wonder if there's a future 1575 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 3: where it's Robinson left guard Andrews on when you you know, 1576 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 3: I just I think that's a really solid interior core. 1577 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 3: And if Wallace could immerge the right. 1578 01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,679 Speaker 2: Thing, you get two tackles, you get your wish, but Wallace. 1579 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,840 Speaker 3: But you know, if Wallace could too, I mean, all 1580 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, you've got a couple of 1581 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 3: rookies who are playing and long term you know solutions. 1582 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:53,520 Speaker 2: Evans here as we turned, has turned, has turned. 1583 01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 3: We need a music video for that. 1584 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 5: So was back at practice speaking of City, not at 1585 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 5: practice He was the only Patriots player missing from practice 1586 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 5: again today. So again, like I said yesterday, Uh stinks 1587 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 5: for City, but they're pretty healthy coming out of that game. 1588 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 5: Everybody's been participating besides him. So nobody that played in 1589 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 5: the game on Sunday got injured seriously, which is I 1590 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,680 Speaker 5: think it's good news for sure. Try to you know, 1591 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 5: caveatoge as much as I can, serious, I mean, get hurt. 1592 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,680 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's bumps and bruises, but yeah, to my 1593 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 4: my eye, I didn't really catch anybody even look like 1594 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:41,680 Speaker 4: they were dealing with anything. We didn't mention any injuries. No, 1595 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,920 Speaker 4: we started taking calls like in the middle of the 1596 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 4: good list, you know, and shot crowsing, well that now 1597 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 4: he's one of us. We're going to learn that. 1598 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 3: We can't do like keep telling me all the things 1599 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 3: I'm doing. 1600 01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,719 Speaker 4: Right, We can't do like we usould do with Hardy, Right. 1601 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,559 Speaker 3: Well, how do we get mad? And then he would 1602 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 3: kind of yell back at you was great, right, right, 1603 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,680 Speaker 3: and then he'd be like kind of angry, hearty. 1604 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 4: And Matt, We'll go okay, fine, I'll just sit here. 1605 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So what do you got. 1606 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,559 Speaker 5: That's kind of a quiet day honestly today, you know, shells, 1607 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 5: no pads after pads yesterday, so pretty standard. Wednesday in pads, 1608 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 5: Thursday back in shells. So city show, wasn't there? Offensive line? 1609 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 5: Looks like it's going to be the same as it 1610 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 5: was in the fourth quarter last week once you know, 1611 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 5: choops of four four went out for Vederian Low and other. 1612 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,679 Speaker 5: Other than that, it looks like business as usual. 1613 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 3: Okayvan, I've been teasing your piece about Drake May a 1614 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 3: little bit. You could give the audience a little a 1615 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 3: little looky lou insight into what Drake had to tell you. 1616 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 2: Yesterday. 1617 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a good conversation with him yesterday and 1618 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 5: it was cool. He kind of just took me through 1619 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,400 Speaker 5: his week and what he was able to do behind 1620 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 5: the scenes, and there's some a few interesting things, I think, 1621 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 5: you know, just off the top. He did take some 1622 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 5: first team reps. You talked about this a little bit yesterday, 1623 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,880 Speaker 5: but he said early in the week, so it sounded 1624 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 5: like dose came for the most part on Wednesday, and 1625 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 5: then once they started to get into real game plan 1626 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,639 Speaker 5: for the Bengals, then Jacobi obviously took over and did 1627 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 5: a lot of those things. And then Drake May was 1628 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,360 Speaker 5: mimicking Joe Burrow, you know, and on the scout team 1629 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 5: for a lot of the week as well. And we 1630 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 5: talked a little bit about the VR technology because I'm 1631 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 5: like fascinated by it. I think it's really cool, and 1632 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 5: he has been using that a little bit. They actually 1633 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,720 Speaker 5: gave him a at home kit so he can now 1634 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 5: do it at his house and bring it home with him. 1635 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,160 Speaker 5: And that's Patriots plays. So he says, he puts in there, 1636 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 5: you know, third down, two minute like situational football type 1637 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,479 Speaker 5: of things, and then he just goes through these are 1638 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 5: our routes, this is the progression, this is the defense 1639 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,600 Speaker 5: I'm going against, And you can wear the goggles and 1640 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 5: actually puts you on the field against the defense and 1641 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,839 Speaker 5: you can actually play the game that way. So it's interesting. 1642 01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,560 Speaker 3: I got two things on that. One, I feel like 1643 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,599 Speaker 3: I would wear that like all night, Like I would 1644 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,120 Speaker 3: just be like, I'll be a bet in a minute. 1645 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,600 Speaker 3: But like my other grand idea is, couldn't we have 1646 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 3: like instead of just top golf, like have a bar 1647 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 3: where they have those goggles and you just kind of 1648 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 3: sit around and drink and you're like, all right, Evan, 1649 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,559 Speaker 3: you're up on the two minute drill, you know, and 1650 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 3: you kind of do it that way instead of let 1651 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 3: you know, sports, you know, like that. 1652 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 5: Get on. 1653 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,000 Speaker 3: It needs investors, a blog of money. 1654 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 5: You need some money. 1655 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 2: People vomiting all over the place. They do make for 1656 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,720 Speaker 2: some people. There's like a motion sickness thing. 1657 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 3: I can see that, yea, he said. 1658 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 5: So it's on an iPad, is like the software is 1659 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 5: on an iPad, and then they cannot even to the headset. 1660 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,240 Speaker 5: And he said that you can also just like go 1661 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 5: like watch it on the iPad like kind of like 1662 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 5: a video game. And so he said that he does that, 1663 01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 5: probably more than wearing the whole headset and everything, but 1664 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 5: he seems to think it's useful to at least run 1665 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,599 Speaker 5: through the Patriots base plays because he's you know, doing 1666 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 5: scout team and doing other things during the week at practice, 1667 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,240 Speaker 5: so that allows him to go back and run through 1668 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 5: some Patriots stuff to try to get that. 1669 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 2: So we went around the desk earlier about a VP's 1670 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 2: comments about plays that he wished he had done. Yeah, 1671 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,080 Speaker 2: what was your interpretation of that quote? 1672 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 5: Well, I think every week, I'm sure there are times 1673 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,720 Speaker 5: where you're like, ah, dang, like you know, they did 1674 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 5: this and we weren't really planning for them to do that, 1675 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 5: and we didn't have a counter, we didn't have an 1676 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 5: answer to it on the call sheet. I'm sure that 1677 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 5: happens a lot. 1678 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 4: That makes sense too, that's another different variation. 1679 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, you know those types of things. 1680 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:36,200 Speaker 5: I didn't necessarily think it was anything. 1681 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,160 Speaker 2: So why did you think that they didn't have a 1682 01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:38,920 Speaker 2: counter to it. 1683 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 5: Well, maybe they just you know, it's week one. The 1684 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,479 Speaker 5: Bengals might not have put everything on film in the 1685 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 5: preseason that they saw on the game, and so you 1686 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 5: get into the game and the Bengals are running a 1687 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 5: different coverage or a different front or something like that 1688 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,360 Speaker 5: that you weren't necessarily prepared for going in, and then 1689 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,559 Speaker 5: you realize like, oh, I don't really have like a 1690 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 5: great play to counter this on this call sheet. So 1691 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,840 Speaker 5: those I'm sure those are second guesses. That's all this. 1692 01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,280 Speaker 2: I was kind of hoping, and I'm probably not right, 1693 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,559 Speaker 2: but I was hoping he was subtly saying, yeah, if 1694 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,200 Speaker 2: we had Drake May in there, we would have been 1695 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,639 Speaker 2: able to do someone enuff out of the pocket, get 1696 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 2: the ball down field. 1697 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:15,599 Speaker 4: I told him I liked his thing. 1698 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 5: I just didn't think, yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying. 1699 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,720 Speaker 5: But I did not interpret it that way. 1700 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, And none of us interpreted it as like, oh, well, 1701 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 4: he's just not ready to call plays. He was unprepared. 1702 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 4: None of us took it that way. 1703 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 5: Just now. 1704 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 4: I kind of wondered if maybe they just didn't have 1705 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 4: enough installed yet or that they felt comfortable with. And 1706 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,599 Speaker 4: there were things that he wished, you know, because obviously 1707 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 4: he knows all the plays right system, but he didn't 1708 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,599 Speaker 4: feel comfortable calling something that wasn't on the sheet because 1709 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 4: not being confident that they'd be able to run it. 1710 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,800 Speaker 5: It's possible. I definitely feel like you have theory better. Yeah, 1711 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,040 Speaker 5: I definitely feel like that's possible though, because him and 1712 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 5: Jacoby were in this offense together in twenty twenty two, 1713 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,400 Speaker 5: So their knowledge level of what is in the playbook 1714 01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,880 Speaker 5: is that probably at a much different level then let's 1715 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,879 Speaker 5: say Jalen Polk's like knowledge level of what's in the playbook. 1716 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 5: So that could definitely be the case. But the way 1717 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 5: I looked at it was, you know, give some props 1718 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 5: to Big Lou, like he threw some things at me 1719 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 5: I wasn't necessarily prepared for, which I'm sure, like I said, happens. 1720 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,600 Speaker 4: And he mentioned earlier in the press conference that the 1721 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,599 Speaker 4: Bengals didn't pressure as much as he thought they would. Yeah, 1722 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 4: and again Mike and I immediately talked after which I 1723 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 4: think some people might be like, they didn't get as 1724 01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,920 Speaker 4: much pressure. They were pressured on fifty percent. I don't 1725 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,360 Speaker 4: think that's what he was talking about. He was talking 1726 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,160 Speaker 4: about blitzing, like correct coming at him with different stuff, 1727 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,720 Speaker 4: and they didn't blitz a lot. Yeah, maybe that was 1728 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,320 Speaker 4: something that you know, goes hand in hand to what 1729 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 4: you were saying. 1730 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like you would say, they had like a 1731 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 5: bunch of answers to blitzes on the call sheet and 1732 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,599 Speaker 5: they ended up not even touching any of them because 1733 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,640 Speaker 5: that's not necessarily what they were doing. Well, now, you 1734 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 5: could have replaced those plays with plays that would have 1735 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 5: been more conducive, right that. It's definitely possible too. 1736 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they I think what was an eighteen 1737 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,600 Speaker 2: plays that they had six linemen in kid? Do you 1738 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,720 Speaker 2: think they needed to haven't that mench or is that 1739 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 2: something they did, you know, out of safety? But if 1740 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,680 Speaker 2: you look back now, maybe you didn't need to do that. 1741 01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1742 01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I thought that was a good part 1743 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,600 Speaker 5: of the game plan. They did it a bunch against 1744 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,519 Speaker 5: this defense in the with the Browns. You know, the 1745 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 5: Browns did a lot of six offensive linemen against Cincinnati 1746 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 5: over the years. So whatever it is at their fronts 1747 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,680 Speaker 5: or something like that that they run, they feel like 1748 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 5: it's useful. I think the game would priset In twenty 1749 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,040 Speaker 5: two that I watch, I think they had twenty two 1750 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,080 Speaker 5: snaps with a sixth offensive lineman, so this week they 1751 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 5: had eighteen. Two of them were Neil downs by the way, 1752 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,599 Speaker 5: So really it was sixteen. 1753 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 4: Did you guys go back and look were there any passes? One? 1754 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,120 Speaker 5: There was one? Yeah, I owent back and looked at that, 1755 01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 5: so there was one pass. It was the checkdown play 1756 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 5: action checkdown, Tomandre Stevenson. 1757 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:03,800 Speaker 4: I wonder if they checked out of a run on 1758 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,759 Speaker 4: the play possible or were they taking a shot. 1759 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,559 Speaker 5: Maybe it was supposed to be a shot all right? 1760 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 2: Web radio at patries dot com as the email address 1761 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 2: spiin Fresno writes in he says, the new mic song 1762 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 2: is pretty wild and wacky stuff, and I'm not sure 1763 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 2: I can handle this switch from the ace ticket hutline 1764 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:24,000 Speaker 2: to TPX. The world is changing and I'm scared anyway. 1765 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,599 Speaker 2: Love that question yesterday about what people aren't worried about 1766 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 2: but should be. I'll throw my hat in the ring 1767 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 2: with perhaps an odd one. Christian Gonzales. People talk about 1768 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 2: him like we've got the number one corner position locked up, 1769 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,320 Speaker 2: but it's still effectively his rookie year. He did find 1770 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,879 Speaker 2: last week, but also had soft coverage against Chase at times, 1771 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,960 Speaker 2: including the first down conversion just before the near touchdown 1772 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:51,000 Speaker 2: by Kasiki. I believe lack of aggression was the critique 1773 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 2: of Gonzo coming from college, hopefully we'll see him as 1774 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,760 Speaker 2: sin but maybe people should worry a little about whether 1775 01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 2: he's the next Revus or Gilmour. 1776 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,080 Speaker 5: I would say on my list of worries, he is 1777 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 5: maybe the most towards the bottom of the list. Is 1778 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,280 Speaker 5: anybody on this team. If we're just gonna go. 1779 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 3: Somewhere, we play left tackle, and I'm gonna say that 1780 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,720 Speaker 3: he Like, out of fifty three guys that are on 1781 01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,000 Speaker 3: this team, he's fifty three in terms of the. 1782 01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 5: Guys that I am worried about on this team. Like, no, 1783 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:23,760 Speaker 5: he does not have a angry streak in him necessarily, 1784 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,800 Speaker 5: Like he's not one of those guys that plays an 1785 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 5: ultra physical brand of football. But his coverage is just 1786 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:31,599 Speaker 5: I mean, he's just a ballery run. 1787 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:33,960 Speaker 3: Oh shoot, I just lost it. 1788 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 4: I had I think I would fall in the middle. 1789 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,760 Speaker 4: He's not on my list of concerns, But I think 1790 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,200 Speaker 4: it all depends on what you think he is. If 1791 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 4: you think he's the Gilmore and Reeves, then I'd be concerned. 1792 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,040 Speaker 4: I don't think he's that good, but I think what 1793 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 4: Evan said is largely accurate. I think he's a really 1794 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 4: good cover guy. I haven't seen any of the games 1795 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,479 Speaker 4: that he's played where I said, wow, he's struggling today. 1796 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,600 Speaker 4: I think he's pretty consistent. I don't I don't have 1797 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 4: him on my list of concern but I don't look 1798 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 4: at him like this. 1799 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:05,880 Speaker 2: At the present. I don't, but I think he can 1800 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:09,120 Speaker 2: be as good as Gilmore down the road. 1801 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:09,639 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1802 01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,400 Speaker 4: See, I was kind of thinking maybe for what Evan 1803 01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 4: was talking about, like just that sort of edge. 1804 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if Gilmore necessarily played with that either. 1805 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's why I said Gilmour and that's not Reave. 1806 01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:29,200 Speaker 5: This maybe Gilmore like Patriots Gilmore, but Buffalo. 1807 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:29,719 Speaker 3: Gilmore is there. 1808 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like I I that took Giore. 1809 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 2: Oh. 1810 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,200 Speaker 5: I love Gilmore, but it just took it took Steph 1811 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,559 Speaker 5: some time to get you know, he came here and 1812 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,960 Speaker 5: really that's when he became the player that he that 1813 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,439 Speaker 5: he became with under Bill, Like that wasn't the guy 1814 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,519 Speaker 5: that you know, asked the Bills fans about about Gilmore. Yeah, 1815 01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:47,040 Speaker 5: I was. 1816 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,360 Speaker 3: I was wondering about putting Gonzales on Lockett, you know, 1817 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,679 Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of considering the matchups this week, 1818 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,640 Speaker 3: and it's just it still seems like Lockett is the 1819 01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,760 Speaker 3: engine kind of a guy, you know, especially if they 1820 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,559 Speaker 3: don't have a run game, maybe you got to put 1821 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 3: a safety over Metcalf right, and you know, then you 1822 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 3: kind of maybe take your chances with with js N 1823 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,960 Speaker 3: and and and Jones. We'll see how they how they 1824 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,600 Speaker 3: do it with man and zone and stuff. But that 1825 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 3: that to me seems like a matchup that might make sense. 1826 01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:11,080 Speaker 3: Stick him on locket. 1827 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I would put him on Metcalf and 1828 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 4: take him, take Metcalf out of the game, and put 1829 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,200 Speaker 4: Jonathan Jones unlocked it. That's the kind of guy that 1830 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:21,440 Speaker 4: Jones has had successful. 1831 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:28,000 Speaker 2: Nolan California has over under game ready, Stevenson over under 1832 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 2: one hundred rushing yards. 1833 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:33,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go under. 1834 01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:36,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say under. 1835 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:37,880 Speaker 3: I just think they're gonna say, we're not gonna let 1836 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,840 Speaker 3: Stevenson beat us this week, and you want to beat 1837 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:40,639 Speaker 3: us with I think. 1838 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,439 Speaker 4: The Patriots are gonna say we can't ride him into 1839 01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 4: the ground. Yeah, that's true, right out of the game 1840 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,679 Speaker 4: and intentionally try to lessen his load. 1841 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 2: A little bit. Jacoby Brissette over under two passing tds. 1842 01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,800 Speaker 2: I go to I'll go to push push, I'm gonna 1843 01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 2: say under, Poke, Fred's. 1844 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,880 Speaker 4: Get another track to pull coming Sunday. 1845 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:07,679 Speaker 2: Poke over under five catches under under yeah, probably under 1846 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:15,200 Speaker 2: defense over under, three turnovers under and finally bonus. At 1847 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,879 Speaker 2: what point, if any the fans chant for Drake May. 1848 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,120 Speaker 5: Under Yeah, I don't think that. 1849 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that will. 1850 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,360 Speaker 5: I don't think you'll hear it. But I don't rule it. 1851 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 3: Out unless it's like seven interceptions from Jogo, maybe three, 1852 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 3: but you know, a bunch of bunch of turnovers from 1853 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 3: Brasseat and Zap zap, Wait May May. 1854 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:36,600 Speaker 4: It's gonna be hard to chant that. 1855 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:37,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't. 1856 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,840 Speaker 3: We want Drake, we want we want may Or, we 1857 01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:40,719 Speaker 3: want may Or Drake. 1858 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 5: I would say, let Drake bake. Know I'm just some 1859 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:44,280 Speaker 5: spip on her. 1860 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:49,960 Speaker 2: A couple of emails, Uh, just little note. People probably 1861 01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,280 Speaker 2: know that listen to this show. But Brazil is our 1862 01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,240 Speaker 2: home market, one of our home markets now and uh 1863 01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 2: we've got a couple of emails from Brazil. So I 1864 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:07,439 Speaker 2: just wanted to read the letitia from Pernambuco, Brazil, but 1865 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 2: originally from Toronto, Canada. First of all, I want to 1866 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,479 Speaker 2: say I love the show in all of you. However, 1867 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,800 Speaker 2: Paul saying that Brazil is not ready to host the 1868 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,599 Speaker 2: NFL game. Really disappointed me. Brazil has successfully hosted not 1869 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,760 Speaker 2: only the Olympics but also the World Cup. Yes, the 1870 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,880 Speaker 2: grass was higher than it should have been for football, 1871 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,000 Speaker 2: but that has also happened in Wembley in London, given 1872 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 2: both of the stadiums are almost one hundred percent of 1873 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,160 Speaker 2: the time used for soccer games, and I think we 1874 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,960 Speaker 2: can all agree that that's easily corrected for the next time. 1875 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,360 Speaker 2: Other than that there was nothing major to correct. 1876 01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,200 Speaker 4: Well, they have yet to corrected in London. Yeah, the 1877 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,599 Speaker 4: field conditions in London have been a problem every year, 1878 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,960 Speaker 4: so I think I don't think it's that easy to correct. 1879 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 2: It isn't What happens is when they put in new turf, 1880 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,120 Speaker 2: I don't care where or it is, like even for 1881 01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,160 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl a couple of years The. 1882 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,799 Speaker 5: Super Bowl a couple of years ago was awful. 1883 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:55,439 Speaker 2: It was awful. 1884 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,559 Speaker 4: This is not something that's just resigned for international mark. 1885 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,720 Speaker 2: That's what That's what And I think that's that's her 1886 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 2: point too, is it's not about Brazil, it's about just 1887 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:05,720 Speaker 2: doing it right. 1888 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 4: I blame London when it was in London, I'm gonna 1889 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,960 Speaker 4: blame Brazil, you know sal Paula. Yeah, when it's there. 1890 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,439 Speaker 2: She says, I know people who went to the game 1891 01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 2: and said everything went perfectly in the US. However, we 1892 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,639 Speaker 2: all remember what happened in the Copa America final in Miami, 1893 01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,200 Speaker 2: and no one anywhere said that US is not ready 1894 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:25,120 Speaker 2: to host a major. 1895 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:25,840 Speaker 5: Of course they did. 1896 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 4: No, I mean Miami didn't get crucified for that. 1897 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,679 Speaker 5: They did, but of course they did. 1898 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,960 Speaker 2: But but they didn't say that Miami can't host a 1899 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,000 Speaker 2: major sporting event. 1900 01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:36,720 Speaker 5: Oh, I've heard them. 1901 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:37,519 Speaker 2: They do it every week. 1902 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 4: I heard them say they can't do World Cup games. 1903 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,599 Speaker 4: Imagine what's going to happen when they do real World Cup. Well, 1904 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,840 Speaker 4: they like these American markets don't know how to do this. 1905 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,559 Speaker 4: There was absolutely that top We. 1906 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,599 Speaker 2: Had World Cup here in the United States before. 1907 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:49,719 Speaker 4: You think it's a little different. 1908 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 11: Now. 1909 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,559 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that they screwed up in Miami. But 1910 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,120 Speaker 2: that's not indicative screw up. 1911 01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,639 Speaker 4: You deserve the criticism, yes, sorry, but it doesn't mean 1912 01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,120 Speaker 4: I didn't got a lot of criticism. 1913 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 2: Point is, people didn't say the US can't host major 1914 01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:05,200 Speaker 2: sporting events. 1915 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,080 Speaker 4: Well, right, and that's what I didn't say. They couldn't 1916 01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,720 Speaker 4: host major sporting events. I said they shouldn't host NFL games. 1917 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,519 Speaker 2: He said the Brazil is not ready for the NFL. 1918 01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 4: Correct, now stand by it? 1919 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,040 Speaker 2: Well, why is? Why is the NFL? That's much different 1920 01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 2: than the World Cup. 1921 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,360 Speaker 4: It wasn't a positive experience for the league. If you 1922 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,599 Speaker 4: listen to the two teams, they did nothing but bitch. 1923 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,439 Speaker 2: Well that's that's fine anyway. 1924 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,000 Speaker 4: They say the same thing about London. This is not 1925 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:27,719 Speaker 4: about Brazil. 1926 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 2: I tried buying tickets for the game in South Paulo, 1927 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 2: but they sold out in two hours. And the sports 1928 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 2: getting more popular in Brazil. I listened religiously, including the 1929 01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,519 Speaker 2: postgame show. I love Boston and I love all of 1930 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:45,120 Speaker 2: you except Evans. Sometimes there's no hard feelings. There's no 1931 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,080 Speaker 2: hard feelings, and I hope to meet all of you 1932 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 2: in Brazil if the Pages play next year. 1933 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:54,479 Speaker 4: I thought for sure that was coming out about Brazil, 1934 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:55,559 Speaker 4: but it doesn't like me. 1935 01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,640 Speaker 2: One more one more from Brazil. This is from Philippe. 1936 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 2: He he's from Brazil. Shout out to Malcolm Butler and 1937 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,759 Speaker 2: Goskowski for attending our first Patriots watch party in Brazil. 1938 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,519 Speaker 2: They were done cool last weekend. How long do you 1939 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,280 Speaker 2: guys think it would be until we use may on 1940 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:15,639 Speaker 2: the field realistically as a may as a Mayo decision 1941 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,280 Speaker 2: And how long do you personally hope it takes? One 1942 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,680 Speaker 2: plus question, are their hopes for Joe Milton develop into 1943 01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,519 Speaker 2: a quarterback kind. 1944 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 3: Of struggling right now because we have to lose probably 1945 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:28,880 Speaker 3: to get Drake may in, And like it's just been 1946 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,680 Speaker 3: nice to win a game and it feels good, and 1947 01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I want may in, but like, I 1948 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 3: also don't want to have to go through like four 1949 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,559 Speaker 3: straight weeks of just you know, bad losses. So but 1950 01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 3: I still want to see him before the season's out, 1951 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,240 Speaker 3: you know, preferably close to the middle of the season. 1952 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,800 Speaker 3: But I just it's gonna it's gonna hurt getting there. 1953 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,760 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm not looking forward to Fred says 1954 01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:47,799 Speaker 3: week six, week. 1955 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,200 Speaker 2: Six, bye week six weeks bye week six. 1956 01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 4: How do I personally twenty minutes get him in there? 1957 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:55,200 Speaker 5: I like to score. 1958 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm kind of silly like that. I like 1959 01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:58,200 Speaker 4: when they put points three. 1960 01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:01,439 Speaker 5: Board, I would say still by Halloween. Yeah, I think 1961 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,360 Speaker 5: we're gonna see him by then. And the way they've 1962 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,719 Speaker 5: treated him in practice, it does sound like they're still 1963 01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:11,160 Speaker 5: making sure he gets some of the reps, so I 1964 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:12,360 Speaker 5: would say by Halloween. 1965 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,559 Speaker 4: And I'm really stubborn, but I'm not stupid. If they 1966 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,000 Speaker 4: win twelve games playing the way they did on Sunday, 1967 01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,600 Speaker 4: I'm all for it whatever it takes to win games. Personally, 1968 01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,240 Speaker 4: I would rather see a little bit more of an 1969 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,479 Speaker 4: entertaining style, and I think May brings that so to me. 1970 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,920 Speaker 4: When they feel like he's ready, I want him in 1971 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,080 Speaker 4: there sooner rather than later. But I don't think that's 1972 01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:33,599 Speaker 4: gonna happen. 1973 01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:37,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. The question with is just some of the plays 1974 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:42,559 Speaker 5: that Jakobe left on film against Cincinnati. Does Drake May's 1975 01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,400 Speaker 5: talent allow you to make those plays? And then on 1976 01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,439 Speaker 5: the flip side, does he turn the ball over more? 1977 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 4: Does some of the pressure that Brissett avoided cause May 1978 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 4: to make rookie mistakes? 1979 01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,519 Speaker 5: Right? Because of the balance, Because there's obviously some of 1980 01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,120 Speaker 5: the of the shot plays that they did call where 1981 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,760 Speaker 5: I felt like May was in there, they'd have a 1982 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 5: better chance of hitting those throws and what they did 1983 01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,639 Speaker 5: with Jakobe. But then there's obviously a downside potential there too. 1984 01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,320 Speaker 2: Kylon Pembroke writes in he says Evan's song is better 1985 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,960 Speaker 2: than Mike's song. Come on, oh and the Patriots win 1986 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,120 Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty one. 1987 01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,559 Speaker 4: Some people like just such a check mark and the 1988 01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:21,479 Speaker 4: human being category because Evan's song was actually written and 1989 01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:22,840 Speaker 4: recorded by a human. 1990 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 3: Wonders it was written by a human, just recorded by 1991 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:31,880 Speaker 3: Ai Touche. I guess it's my mind's better than not 1992 01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:32,960 Speaker 3: the theme song. 1993 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,080 Speaker 2: I guess I got one more, one more before we 1994 01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 2: get to uh the picks. Brian and Plymouth great to 1995 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,400 Speaker 2: have three shows a week. Love Mike's ridiculous new AI 1996 01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,639 Speaker 2: song about time he got the love that he's quieter 1997 01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 2: and gets occasionally steamrolled, so it doesn't always jump out 1998 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:52,360 Speaker 2: how good his insight is. 1999 01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 4: Yes, you would let him. 2000 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,559 Speaker 2: That's a good point anyway. With the parl wash out 2001 01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,600 Speaker 2: of the way, you talked about the increased access in 2002 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,800 Speaker 2: the locker room in general. Increased access has been a 2003 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 2: theme this season, and it's a huge benefit to the 2004 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,799 Speaker 2: fans between that in the podcast, like Brian and David's 2005 01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:14,680 Speaker 2: and Devon's. I love that almost instant dynamic content we're 2006 01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 2: getting this year. A lot of people have had enough 2007 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,360 Speaker 2: of Felger's faux arguments and all that noise. 2008 01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,880 Speaker 5: Just out of curiosity has access we're talking about. 2009 01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's not any increase that more people accessible. 2010 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,639 Speaker 4: It's it's not an it's a different time of day. 2011 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,200 Speaker 4: Oh okay, it's allowing I think the media to have 2012 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,840 Speaker 4: better opportunities, just more guys. It's not increased acts. 2013 01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,839 Speaker 5: I would say too, that they're also in better moods 2014 01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,720 Speaker 5: because we're not catching them at the end of their 2015 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,240 Speaker 5: day where they've had a long day. So it feels 2016 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,120 Speaker 5: like a lot more energy in the room and like 2017 01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,800 Speaker 5: you actually get a feel for what it's like during 2018 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,080 Speaker 5: the work day instead of at the end when everybody 2019 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:53,719 Speaker 5: is like ready to pack it up and go home. 2020 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:55,439 Speaker 3: And you don't see people with the fear of God 2021 01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:56,960 Speaker 3: in them when you're talking to them, that they're gonna 2022 01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:57,559 Speaker 3: say something wrong. 2023 01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,759 Speaker 4: I think that's you know, I think that's a relevant 2024 01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:00,320 Speaker 4: part of it. 2025 01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 5: Like I would just say, if I had tried to 2026 01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:07,800 Speaker 5: go up to a Drake May figure last year and 2027 01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:12,559 Speaker 5: gotten the story that I got with Drake May, I'm 2028 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:16,200 Speaker 5: not one hundred percent sure he would have talked No. 2029 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:17,400 Speaker 2: I just don't know. 2030 01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 5: I don't know if that would have happened off limit, right, 2031 01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,439 Speaker 5: So those types of things I think are nice, Like 2032 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,479 Speaker 5: we should know what's going on with Drake May. It 2033 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,080 Speaker 5: shouldn't be some sort of state secret. 2034 01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,840 Speaker 3: He's training, he's practicing. Yeah, he's doing things to get 2035 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:34,479 Speaker 3: ready football things. 2036 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,759 Speaker 2: All right, now it's that time of the week. 2037 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm excited. I don't know. I feel like 2038 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:44,680 Speaker 3: I did pretty good. I don't know. 2039 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:50,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Paul, what happened last week? 2040 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:56,280 Speaker 4: Well, Mike's intuition is correct. Mike was the big winner 2041 01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,879 Speaker 4: in week one in the overall thirteen and three. Wow, 2042 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,240 Speaker 4: that is done outside standing, followed by Alex at twelve 2043 01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,280 Speaker 4: and four, Paul at eleven and five, and then Evan 2044 01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:07,719 Speaker 4: and Fred were nine and seven. 2045 01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:09,880 Speaker 5: Still making money. 2046 01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:15,000 Speaker 4: Fred, you turned that frown upside down because with the spread, 2047 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,960 Speaker 4: which Fred and I like to refer to as the 2048 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,040 Speaker 4: men are separated from. 2049 01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:19,880 Speaker 2: The board counts. 2050 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:27,120 Speaker 4: Fred was eleven four and one. Mike, solid week for you, 2051 01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:32,200 Speaker 4: nine six and one, Evan nine six and one, good 2052 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:37,280 Speaker 4: solid showing, and Alex and Paul seven eight and one. 2053 01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:37,960 Speaker 3: What's going on? 2054 01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:42,240 Speaker 4: It's very unlike me. Took a lot of upsets last 2055 01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:43,519 Speaker 4: week and not a lot of. 2056 01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:48,519 Speaker 2: Them came through. I like to thank my acceptance speech. Okay, 2057 01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:52,360 Speaker 2: well that's four games behind the lead. I'm pleased. I 2058 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,000 Speaker 2: didn't think I did that well going. 2059 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:56,280 Speaker 4: That fast. 2060 01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:58,280 Speaker 3: Your feel for the league is just dissipating. 2061 01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,000 Speaker 4: Well, just so you know your full gamesind the overall league, 2062 01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:02,000 Speaker 4: that's okay. 2063 01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:03,519 Speaker 5: All right, that's not what matters. 2064 01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:06,960 Speaker 2: So we were we go to week two? Did we 2065 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,879 Speaker 2: see did what we see in week one make a difference? 2066 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:10,040 Speaker 7: Like? 2067 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,360 Speaker 2: Was it real? Who? You know? That's why week two 2068 01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:17,479 Speaker 2: was so tough because you never know what you saw, 2069 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 2: how much of it was actually what those teams are 2070 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,200 Speaker 2: going to be. Yeah, so let's get into it. We'll 2071 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,960 Speaker 2: start tonight on Prime Video eight fifteen. It's the one 2072 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,960 Speaker 2: and oh Bills against the one and oh Dolphins. 2073 01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:33,679 Speaker 4: The Dolphins by two and a half. 2074 01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:35,800 Speaker 2: Interesting. 2075 01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,439 Speaker 4: Evidently the Dolphins aren't playing any road games this week 2076 01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 4: this year? I guess not. 2077 01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:40,960 Speaker 2: Is that right now? 2078 01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,800 Speaker 4: I mean September two games I've seen. 2079 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:45,960 Speaker 3: I guess Buffalo owns Miami. I have lost track of 2080 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,120 Speaker 3: these things. That seems like Miami is fired up to 2081 01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,639 Speaker 3: get over this hump against Buffalo from what I've seen. 2082 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,519 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go with Miami at home. I just 2083 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,120 Speaker 3: I didn't like what I saw out of Buffalo last week. 2084 01:32:58,120 --> 01:32:59,479 Speaker 3: I just I don't want I want to see And 2085 01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,840 Speaker 3: I'm saying that as like a neutral fan, like I 2086 01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,240 Speaker 3: want to see Josh Allen sit back and throw the 2087 01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:06,240 Speaker 3: ball and pick, you know, and pick his spots with run. 2088 01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,639 Speaker 3: But it just felt like he got desperate. He started 2089 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:10,559 Speaker 3: running and you know, and it worked. But like I 2090 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:12,840 Speaker 3: just again, I don't know if it's sustainable. I like 2091 01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,600 Speaker 3: Miami in this one. I will lay the. 2092 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,120 Speaker 4: Points so Alex also likes Miami. 2093 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:22,479 Speaker 5: Both ways, I'm gonna take Buffalo in this game. Miami 2094 01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:24,799 Speaker 5: has yet to prove that they can actually beat another 2095 01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,320 Speaker 5: good team in this Mike McDaniel era. They never beat 2096 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,840 Speaker 5: teams above five hundred, they never beat other playoff teams. 2097 01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,439 Speaker 5: You know, it's early, but I like the Bills in 2098 01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,640 Speaker 5: this game, and I like MVP Josh Allen. Let him, 2099 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:38,519 Speaker 5: let him run around and make plays. 2100 01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, in terms of being sustainable, let's worked for about 2101 01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,519 Speaker 4: seven years. Miami. I'm gonna take here because it's a 2102 01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,920 Speaker 4: Thursday night game. I think that a lot of stuff 2103 01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,760 Speaker 4: that Evan said I agreed with, but short week. I 2104 01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:52,880 Speaker 4: know it's still early in the season, but I'm going 2105 01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:54,880 Speaker 4: to give the home team. I think both of these 2106 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,000 Speaker 4: teams had really bad starts in really good second halves. 2107 01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,080 Speaker 4: Buffalo dominated the second half of their game, but they 2108 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,520 Speaker 4: also played the Cardinals, who aren't as good as Jacksonville. 2109 01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Miami at home. 2110 01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, spot wise, it's a good one for 2111 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,280 Speaker 2: the Dolphins. But and even though I say the windows 2112 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,000 Speaker 2: closing for the Bills. 2113 01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:13,599 Speaker 4: I think you said it shut. 2114 01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm picking the Bills to win this game. 2115 01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:18,120 Speaker 4: Bills to win. 2116 01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, go to alright, Paul outright. 2117 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:25,559 Speaker 4: Outright, Bills out right wrote I wrote it down. 2118 01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, and we got Alex's pick, right, we get 2119 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,640 Speaker 2: okay Uh. Sunday at one, the oh and one Raiders 2120 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,719 Speaker 2: go across country to play the oh to one Ravens. 2121 01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:39,280 Speaker 11: Uh. 2122 01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,040 Speaker 4: The Ravens by eight and a half. 2123 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:44,640 Speaker 3: Big spread, that's a big spread. But I'm gonna I'm 2124 01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,680 Speaker 3: gonna lay those points because I just I get a 2125 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,880 Speaker 3: bad feeling about the Raiders this year. You know, saw 2126 01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:53,240 Speaker 3: little implosion last week. Gardner Minshew, I don't, I don't 2127 01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:55,840 Speaker 3: know what's going on Baltimore. Maybe a little angry they 2128 01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:57,840 Speaker 3: get back home. I like them big. 2129 01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,200 Speaker 5: Alex also likes Baltimore, but both ways. Yeah, I'm doing 2130 01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,559 Speaker 5: the same thing. I think Baltimore bounces back this week. 2131 01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:07,400 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take Baltimore. 2132 01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:12,800 Speaker 2: You're overthinking and I'll chicken out. 2133 01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:13,240 Speaker 5: I'll take that. 2134 01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,160 Speaker 4: I don't I don't like given more than a touchdown 2135 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,200 Speaker 4: of the Ravens because they run the ball too much. 2136 01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:18,719 Speaker 4: But I will take the Ravens both ways. 2137 01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,200 Speaker 2: That's a good, good choice. Ravens both ways. 2138 01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:27,000 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be wrong together then I can't make up 2139 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:27,599 Speaker 5: any ground though. 2140 01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:31,559 Speaker 2: That one o'clock on CBS, UH, the one and oh 2141 01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:35,880 Speaker 2: Chargers going across country to the oh to one Panthers. 2142 01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:41,080 Speaker 4: The lack by six six, Yeah, that's not enough. That's 2143 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:42,160 Speaker 4: not lack. 2144 01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,559 Speaker 3: Is somebody hurt on the lack or something that doesn't seem. 2145 01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,920 Speaker 5: Like well impressive. 2146 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,040 Speaker 2: The Panthers still three for being at home, so it's 2147 01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:50,519 Speaker 2: really the lack by nine. 2148 01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,200 Speaker 3: And that and there it is. I will take the 2149 01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,160 Speaker 3: lack of the year, take the lack, lay the points. 2150 01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,559 Speaker 5: Alex also will take the lack both ways. Yeah, I'm 2151 01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:02,920 Speaker 5: gonna do the same thing. I think the Panther's the 2152 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:03,880 Speaker 5: worst team in the NFL. 2153 01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,400 Speaker 4: I agree with that, and until I see something that 2154 01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:10,200 Speaker 4: shows me differently. I will probably lay the points every week. 2155 01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:11,439 Speaker 4: I'll take the lack both ways. 2156 01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,559 Speaker 2: I'm on board with that charges both ways. One o'clock 2157 01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:19,080 Speaker 2: on Fox, it's the one and O Saints at the 2158 01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:19,600 Speaker 2: one and O. 2159 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,080 Speaker 5: Cowboys Cowboys by six. 2160 01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,680 Speaker 2: By the way, do we know which game Tom Brady's doing? 2161 01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:27,280 Speaker 5: The Cowboys. 2162 01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,240 Speaker 2: He's doing the Cowboys again, Cowboys. 2163 01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:31,840 Speaker 3: This is a good game. I mean, New Orleans blue 2164 01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:36,400 Speaker 3: doors last week, and Dallas obviously they're doing well. I'm 2165 01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:38,559 Speaker 3: gonna go with Dallas at home, but I'll take those points. 2166 01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,560 Speaker 3: I think it'll be close. Would you say the points 2167 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:42,200 Speaker 3: were six? 2168 01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,960 Speaker 4: So Alex is doing the same. She takes Dallas, but 2169 01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:46,599 Speaker 4: she's gonna take those six points. 2170 01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing. I just I 2171 01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:51,800 Speaker 5: liked how the New Orleans Saints played last week. 2172 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,960 Speaker 3: They were a little scared of car break up here. 2173 01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:56,960 Speaker 5: So I am Alvin Kamara on my bench. 2174 01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:01,000 Speaker 4: I so, against my instincts, this is the spot. Dallas usually, 2175 01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,320 Speaker 4: as Fred likes to say, smells their own farts and 2176 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,360 Speaker 4: lays an egg. And I would at least take the 2177 01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,360 Speaker 4: points here, but I'm not going to. I think New 2178 01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:13,240 Speaker 4: Orleans played the Panthers. That's really no gauge. I think 2179 01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,360 Speaker 4: that they played a real defense this week and Dallas 2180 01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:16,040 Speaker 4: blows doors. 2181 01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little worried because we're all in too 2182 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:25,720 Speaker 2: much agreement. Dallas both ways one o'clock on Fox. The 2183 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:29,240 Speaker 2: Baker may feel led. Buccaneers at want to oh travel 2184 01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,920 Speaker 2: to Detroit to play the Lions. Also want to. 2185 01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:35,160 Speaker 4: Know rematch of a playoff game last year Wildcard game. 2186 01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:38,160 Speaker 4: I believe Destois by seven and a half. 2187 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,200 Speaker 3: Detroit's got a really good offensive line, Tampa's got a 2188 01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,080 Speaker 3: good defense. Though, I'm gonna I'm gonna take Detroit, but 2189 01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:48,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take those points for Tampa. I think they 2190 01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,360 Speaker 3: hang in there with Baker, they can put some points 2191 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:50,800 Speaker 3: on the board. 2192 01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,400 Speaker 4: So Alex does the same Detroit, but she'll take the 2193 01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:56,280 Speaker 4: seven and a half. 2194 01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:58,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Detroit. Detroit. I just think they're a 2195 01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,840 Speaker 5: better team. I'm going to take them at home. 2196 01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,559 Speaker 4: Okay, I agree with Evan that they're the better team, 2197 01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:06,439 Speaker 4: but seven and a half is a lot of points. 2198 01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:10,040 Speaker 4: I think Tampa looked pretty good offensively last week. Baker 2199 01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,000 Speaker 4: baked as Fred lakes to say, I'm going to take 2200 01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:13,040 Speaker 4: the points Detroit to win. 2201 01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:13,679 Speaker 5: I'll take the points. 2202 01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, take the points. Lions win. But I 2203 01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,840 Speaker 2: was thinking of picking the Buccaneers outright, but. 2204 01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:22,600 Speaker 4: I'm just going to take to do that. 2205 01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:32,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, Fox at Wonen won Colts at the ohen One Packers. 2206 01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:33,719 Speaker 4: The Colts by three. 2207 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:37,519 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because Jordan loves Who's who's the Malik will 2208 01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:41,280 Speaker 5: willis hell hurt is love not that hurt actually. 2209 01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:41,599 Speaker 11: Uh. 2210 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,200 Speaker 5: Lafleur said that he didn't seem to think it was 2211 01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:46,080 Speaker 5: going to be long term. 2212 01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:46,519 Speaker 2: They didn't. 2213 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:47,240 Speaker 4: They didn't put him on. 2214 01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:47,519 Speaker 6: I r. 2215 01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,160 Speaker 5: Yes, they didn't think it would be four weeks, but 2216 01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:50,600 Speaker 5: this one maybe not. 2217 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:52,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, yeah. 2218 01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,360 Speaker 3: God, I I I don't know. I'm just not a 2219 01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:56,200 Speaker 3: believer in India. 2220 01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:56,519 Speaker 5: I don't know. 2221 01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:57,320 Speaker 3: I will take Indy. 2222 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,679 Speaker 4: I'll lay the points, so Alex is also taking Indie 2223 01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:02,479 Speaker 4: both ways. 2224 01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,160 Speaker 5: I'm going to take the Packers. I know, Malik willis 2225 01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:07,360 Speaker 5: us your bold decision. 2226 01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:08,800 Speaker 3: I kind of wanted to make it. I couldn't do it. 2227 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,519 Speaker 5: I just it's lambeau Field. It's their first home game. 2228 01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:13,120 Speaker 2: I like them. 2229 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,439 Speaker 5: They can just hand the ball off to Josh Jacobs 2230 01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,160 Speaker 5: twenty five times. Like I feel like the Laflora will 2231 01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:22,120 Speaker 5: be able to to design a game plan for Willis. 2232 01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:23,719 Speaker 5: So I'm going to go with the pack. 2233 01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:25,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to take the Colts, but I'm worried 2234 01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:29,120 Speaker 4: about it because Richardson is just so sort of a 2235 01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,960 Speaker 4: ratic like yeah boom bloomer bust and I think in 2236 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:35,400 Speaker 4: Lambeau like you guys said, But I'm going to take 2237 01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:39,080 Speaker 4: the Colts without without Jordan Love obviously. 2238 01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,519 Speaker 2: So here's the game. You know, like if Love was 2239 01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:46,440 Speaker 2: out for a long time, it's worth you know, it 2240 01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,320 Speaker 2: kills your motivation more than now. You just need a 2241 01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,120 Speaker 2: seat holder. And you've seen good teams where. 2242 01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:53,920 Speaker 4: We can beat the Colts. 2243 01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they bring in the and they, like Evan said, 2244 01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:59,799 Speaker 2: with So I'm going to take the Packers. 2245 01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:00,920 Speaker 4: Think it's a sound reason. 2246 01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:03,600 Speaker 5: That's a much better way of articulating. When I was 2247 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:04,280 Speaker 5: trying to say, I. 2248 01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,800 Speaker 4: Thought I was stumbling all over my that's very very 2249 01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:07,479 Speaker 4: sound reasoning. 2250 01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:08,640 Speaker 5: I'm very surprised. 2251 01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just need to keep the seat for a 2252 01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,160 Speaker 2: few games and then we'll be all right. So let's 2253 01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,680 Speaker 2: play our ass again the year. 2254 01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:18,880 Speaker 4: You're like, well, what's the difference, We're going right? Going nowhere? 2255 01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,080 Speaker 5: Like you know, twenty sixteen Patriots with Jimmy g and 2256 01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,479 Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissett. You know, you just kind of get through it. 2257 01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:25,559 Speaker 5: Then he comes back. 2258 01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:30,320 Speaker 2: One o'clock on CBS, the Owen one Browns are at 2259 01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:31,880 Speaker 2: the Owen one Jaguars. 2260 01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,080 Speaker 4: Jaguars by by three. 2261 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:39,840 Speaker 3: Man, it's up there. Cleveland's up against it right now. 2262 01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,480 Speaker 3: That's hard to pick them on the road in Jacksonville 2263 01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:46,360 Speaker 3: probably gonna be hot. I mean, I don't know how 2264 01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,400 Speaker 3: you roll with Deshaun Watson here three not a lot 2265 01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,960 Speaker 3: of points. I'm gonna pretty confidently take the Jags and 2266 01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:51,639 Speaker 3: lay the points. 2267 01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:56,519 Speaker 5: So I agree that Deshaun Watson look terrible. I just 2268 01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,280 Speaker 5: think the Jaguars are kind of soft football team and 2269 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,920 Speaker 5: the Browns are the opposite of a soft football team. 2270 01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:03,840 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take Cleveland in this game. I just 2271 01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:05,720 Speaker 5: think they're going to control the line of scrimmage. That's 2272 01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,479 Speaker 5: a ballsy pitch and they're gonna win that way. 2273 01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Cleveland's better than Jacksonville, but not with 2274 01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:13,400 Speaker 4: all the guys they have out. I'm gonna take Jacksonville 2275 01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,719 Speaker 4: at home to uh take take care of a team 2276 01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,120 Speaker 4: that I don't think they're as good as. But yeah, 2277 01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:20,280 Speaker 4: they're missing a lot of. 2278 01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:23,519 Speaker 2: Parts taking Trevor Lawrence to beat the washed Watson was 2279 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:25,280 Speaker 2: I like that, that's. 2280 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:25,439 Speaker 5: Good for it. 2281 01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:29,200 Speaker 4: Plus that whole thing hanging over there again, I think 2282 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:30,160 Speaker 4: is relevant. 2283 01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,240 Speaker 2: Sunday at one CBS the one and oh. Forty nine 2284 01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:38,160 Speaker 2: Ers are at the one and oh Vikingsniners by five 2285 01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:42,160 Speaker 2: and a half. McCaffrey says he wants to play right. 2286 01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:44,400 Speaker 4: It doesn't sound like that they already ruled him up. 2287 01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,000 Speaker 5: They're they're trending them that way. 2288 01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:50,880 Speaker 3: Okay, I just I can't. San Francisco look just look 2289 01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,679 Speaker 3: too easy for them moving the ball at times against 2290 01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:56,280 Speaker 3: the Jets. I gotta take San Francisco. I'm gonna lay 2291 01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:56,719 Speaker 3: the points. 2292 01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:01,080 Speaker 4: Alex also takes San Francisco both ways, and she took Jacksonville. 2293 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,160 Speaker 4: I'm not sure I said that, but she also took 2294 01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:04,320 Speaker 4: Jacksonville both ways. 2295 01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:07,439 Speaker 5: I will never pick against the forty nine ers forty 2296 01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:12,519 Speaker 5: nine ers both ways. Kyle theay roll. He says he 2297 01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,799 Speaker 5: has an undrafted running back that basically looked like Christian 2298 01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:19,719 Speaker 5: McCaffrey in every Yeah, Niners, Wally both ways. 2299 01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,800 Speaker 4: I will take the Niners both ways. Although I was 2300 01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 4: impressed with the Vikings even though they played the Giants. 2301 01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:29,800 Speaker 4: I thought they looked they looked like they had a plan. Agreed, Yeah, 2302 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:30,599 Speaker 4: Sam darnol. 2303 01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,280 Speaker 5: I think Kevin o'conne is a good coach. 2304 01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:39,439 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the forty nine ers, but I'm tempted, 2305 01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:42,040 Speaker 2: but I'll stick with the forty nine ers. Sunday at 2306 01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:46,439 Speaker 2: one on Fox, We're gonna skip that over. I'm sorry. Uh, 2307 01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:50,479 Speaker 2: Sunday at one at CBS, the one Jets are at 2308 01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:52,400 Speaker 2: the oen one Titans. 2309 01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:55,439 Speaker 4: Jets by three and a half. 2310 01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. Will Love has cut some strays there from from 2311 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:04,120 Speaker 3: Belichier two about his that you know, throw it fumble. 2312 01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:05,719 Speaker 5: Pick, his amount of talent terrible. 2313 01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:07,960 Speaker 3: No, well, just the mistake. He just pointed out the mistake. 2314 01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:10,840 Speaker 5: Yeah right, not the big army. 2315 01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:14,639 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Jets. They gotta they gotta put 2316 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:17,200 Speaker 3: something together. But I was not impressed with them the 2317 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,639 Speaker 3: other night. They just they looked slow to me, and 2318 01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,200 Speaker 3: I've watched plenty of slow teams the last couple of years. 2319 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:24,639 Speaker 3: But I'll take the Jets in this situation. 2320 01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:30,200 Speaker 5: Alex also will take the Jets both ways. I'm gonna 2321 01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,240 Speaker 5: take the home dog. I'm gonna take the Titans in 2322 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,280 Speaker 5: this game. I'm not convinced of the Jets of anything 2323 01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:36,920 Speaker 5: right now with the Jets, so say that. 2324 01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:37,920 Speaker 2: I have agendas. 2325 01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,479 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's it's obvious where he learns. 2326 01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,280 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, screw the Jets. 2327 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think there's been a lot of focus on 2328 01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:47,519 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, and I don't think that had really a 2329 01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:49,840 Speaker 4: whole lot to do with it. Gave up four hundred 2330 01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:52,960 Speaker 4: yards and all though all those rushing yards, that defense 2331 01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:53,920 Speaker 4: is going to be embarrassed. 2332 01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,759 Speaker 5: I think they blow doors off. I'll take the Jets 2333 01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:57,400 Speaker 5: both ways. 2334 01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Jets as well. As much 2335 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:02,559 Speaker 2: as I hate to do that, guys aren't bold enough. 2336 01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,639 Speaker 2: Sunday at one on Fox, it's the oh and one 2337 01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,360 Speaker 2: Giants at the oh to one Commanders. 2338 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:10,559 Speaker 4: The Commanders by one and a half. 2339 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:12,000 Speaker 5: Who is watching this game? 2340 01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:16,320 Speaker 3: Yikes, that's funny with they're both they're both own one right, 2341 01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,000 Speaker 3: like they're both oh and one and But yet Washington 2342 01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,080 Speaker 3: still feels okay because they got you know, they just 2343 01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:23,960 Speaker 3: drafted their quarterback and things are just completely falling apart 2344 01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:27,160 Speaker 3: for the Giants right now. Daniel Jones is just like 2345 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,479 Speaker 3: a laughing stock at the moment. It can change, but 2346 01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,479 Speaker 3: I don't think it does this weekend. I'm gonna take 2347 01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:35,160 Speaker 3: the Commandors and I'll lay the point and a half. 2348 01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,280 Speaker 4: Oh, Alex takes Washington both ways. 2349 01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Washington both ways to to if 2350 01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,280 Speaker 5: the Panthers are the worst team in the league, this 2351 01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,400 Speaker 5: might be two and three right now, but I think 2352 01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:49,360 Speaker 5: the Commanders are a little bit better than the Giants. Yeah. 2353 01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:53,360 Speaker 4: I think both of these teams stink, but I think 2354 01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:55,920 Speaker 4: the Giants stunk a lot worse in Week one, and 2355 01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,679 Speaker 4: I think that they will bounce back and they're gonna 2356 01:44:58,720 --> 01:44:59,559 Speaker 4: win this game out right. 2357 01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, all you took the words right out of my mouth. 2358 01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,720 Speaker 2: Giants win this game despite everybody. 2359 01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:08,640 Speaker 4: If they get blasted again, I shunned people Bryan Table. 2360 01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:11,040 Speaker 2: Again, But I think they're gonna, at least for one 2361 01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:15,559 Speaker 2: week turn it around. Now we skip over the Patriots 2362 01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:20,479 Speaker 2: at one o'clock. But you know, these games seem pretty easy, 2363 01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:22,960 Speaker 2: but not as easy to drink and easy to enjoy 2364 01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,800 Speaker 2: as bud Light, which is the official beer sponsor of 2365 01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:28,360 Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. And if you're looking to kick 2366 01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,439 Speaker 2: off your season with some epic game day watch parties, 2367 01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:36,200 Speaker 2: become a Championship host with Bob's Discount Furniture, Fall Dining 2368 01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:38,760 Speaker 2: look Book, look Book. Have we just figured out what 2369 01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,280 Speaker 2: a look book is? It is a collection of furniture, 2370 01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,439 Speaker 2: a look book. Okay, it like a book shop. 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See what I did there? 2379 01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:14,320 Speaker 2: I took the natural break between the one o'clock games 2380 01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:17,519 Speaker 2: and the four and I did some reads seamless. Did 2381 01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:17,880 Speaker 2: you like that? 2382 01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:18,760 Speaker 5: I like it? 2383 01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, all right? Now we move to the late 2384 01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:27,400 Speaker 2: slate four oh five. The one Rams on Fox are 2385 01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:29,800 Speaker 2: at the oh to one Cardinals. 2386 01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:31,360 Speaker 5: The Rams by one. 2387 01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,280 Speaker 3: Really, that's interesting. 2388 01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:38,120 Speaker 4: This was a little bit of a that's interesting spread myself. 2389 01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to take the Rams. Then is 2390 01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:42,439 Speaker 3: there to be on anybody in this one pole? 2391 01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:46,559 Speaker 5: The Cardinals? I believe that is correct. 2392 01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,639 Speaker 3: You know the NFC was, uh yeah, I'll take the Rams, 2393 01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:51,519 Speaker 3: and you guys just don't believe anything that I saw 2394 01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:53,280 Speaker 3: Los Angeles Rams. 2395 01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:57,800 Speaker 5: Alex Alex takes the Cardinals. 2396 01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:00,439 Speaker 3: That's like, I think the first like different one we've had. 2397 01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,599 Speaker 5: I'm going to take the Rams. I just I think 2398 01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:07,599 Speaker 5: Coler Murray's attitude stinks. Like they interviewed him the other 2399 01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,720 Speaker 5: day and he's asked about getting Marvin Harrison Junior the 2400 01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:12,920 Speaker 5: ball and he's like, it's not my job. You're literally 2401 01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:14,840 Speaker 5: the quarterback. Dude, Like, what do you mean it's not 2402 01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,240 Speaker 5: your job to get Marvin Harrison the ball. I think 2403 01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,799 Speaker 5: he's in his own head. Yeah, I'm going Rams. 2404 01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:24,800 Speaker 4: So I like the Rams a lot obviously, but they 2405 01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:28,599 Speaker 4: really banged up for for a week two game. I'm 2406 01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,240 Speaker 4: going to take the Rams both ways. But I think 2407 01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,360 Speaker 4: that has something to do with the spread all the 2408 01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:35,080 Speaker 4: guys they lost in that game the other night. The 2409 01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:36,560 Speaker 4: line was in shambles. 2410 01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:41,240 Speaker 5: Pa Puka. The Cooper Cup looked like vintage in that game. 2411 01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:43,800 Speaker 4: But now I think you go into the game knowing 2412 01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,000 Speaker 4: that that's all you have to worry about, as opposed 2413 01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:51,080 Speaker 4: to Pooka is getting watching they were good. 2414 01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,040 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the Cardinals are going to win 2415 01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,320 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, but they're going to be in the 2416 01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:58,639 Speaker 2: top five in the NFL in scoring this year. 2417 01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:01,240 Speaker 5: I'll take that bet. 2418 01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:05,000 Speaker 4: Okay, Uh, Cardinals return You're gonna return kicks for touchdowns 2419 01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:05,360 Speaker 4: every week. 2420 01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:09,519 Speaker 2: The Cardinals are gonna win this game. So there you go. 2421 01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:10,040 Speaker 3: So there you go. 2422 01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:11,120 Speaker 2: So let it be written. 2423 01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:13,519 Speaker 3: And thus it was my job. 2424 01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,480 Speaker 2: Shoot, I just lost my hold on hope. 2425 01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,880 Speaker 5: Please Cincinnati, is that candas. 2426 01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:27,599 Speaker 2: We have to do it in your lane, bro, stay 2427 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:31,800 Speaker 2: in your lame FO five CBS the one and oh 2428 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:36,840 Speaker 2: Steelers are at the oh to one Broncos Pittsburgh. 2429 01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:37,439 Speaker 4: By two and a half. 2430 01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,160 Speaker 5: This game, this game. 2431 01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:45,479 Speaker 3: Bone Nicks throwing picks. That's good. I like that Bonicks 2432 01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:49,320 Speaker 3: throwing picks. Sorry, spit there. Uh, I don't know, man, 2433 01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:50,240 Speaker 3: this one's tough. 2434 01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:51,679 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna get here. 2435 01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:55,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Pittsburgh. I'll lay the points. Pittsburgh lay 2436 01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:56,320 Speaker 3: the points. 2437 01:48:56,600 --> 01:49:00,799 Speaker 5: Alex also takes Pittsburgh. I am going to take Pittsburgh 2438 01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:03,639 Speaker 5: as well. That defense against Bonnicks is terrifying. 2439 01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:04,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2440 01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:08,000 Speaker 4: I think nothing of Pittsburgh overall, but for that reason. 2441 01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,800 Speaker 4: I think they'll torture bo Nicks Pittsburgh both ways. 2442 01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:15,599 Speaker 2: What was this number two and a half Broncos favorite? No? Oh, 2443 01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:19,080 Speaker 2: steal his favorite. Yes, I'll take the Broncos home, by 2444 01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:20,799 Speaker 2: the way, Paul correct. 2445 01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:25,480 Speaker 4: Unlike week one when they were at Seattle. No, no, yes, yes. 2446 01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:31,560 Speaker 2: For twenty five CBS. The on one Bengals because of 2447 01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:35,360 Speaker 2: the Patriots are at the one, and oh Chiefs because 2448 01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:36,080 Speaker 2: of the Ravens. 2449 01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:37,880 Speaker 5: Chiefs by five. 2450 01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:42,920 Speaker 3: Chiefs by five. Good game, But I just will it be. 2451 01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:45,280 Speaker 3: I just don't know if Cincinnati can get back up 2452 01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:47,519 Speaker 3: to speed. I mean, I just got concerns about Burrow 2453 01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,880 Speaker 3: as wrists. They're asking about the water bottle thing. He's like, 2454 01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,200 Speaker 3: what are you guys talking about? It's just some nonsense 2455 01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:55,479 Speaker 3: going on there. And T Higgins that is that is 2456 01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,400 Speaker 3: an uncertain I don't believe you practiced. It doesn't matter 2457 01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,000 Speaker 3: because I already said last week with the I know 2458 01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:02,840 Speaker 3: you like picked up a water bottle kind of funny. 2459 01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:07,280 Speaker 4: Oh, yes, it's maybe two talking about a lot of stuff. 2460 01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:08,640 Speaker 4: I have no idea. 2461 01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,840 Speaker 3: I'm sticking to my role though, I'm picking Kansas City 2462 01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:14,280 Speaker 3: and every game this year, probably I'm gonna take Kansas City. 2463 01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,160 Speaker 5: I'll lay the point. Alex also takes the Chiefs. I'm 2464 01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,160 Speaker 5: gonna take the Chiefs too. I'm worried about the vibes 2465 01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:19,920 Speaker 5: with Cincinnati. 2466 01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:22,160 Speaker 2: I just think I'm not worried about it. I'm happy 2467 01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:22,519 Speaker 2: about it. 2468 01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. I'm worried about those vibes. I'm worried 2469 01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:28,840 Speaker 5: about Joe Burrow. I just something seems off about that 2470 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,840 Speaker 5: whole operation right now. So I'm taking the Chiefs both ways. 2471 01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2472 01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:34,519 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do the same thing for the same reason. 2473 01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,160 Speaker 4: I just didn't like anything that I saw from Cincinnati. 2474 01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,640 Speaker 4: And uh, this is less about the Chiefs as it 2475 01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,479 Speaker 4: is about the Bengals. I'll take the Chiefs both ways. 2476 01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh and two Bengals. I can't wait. Oh, they're 2477 01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:50,080 Speaker 2: like my new Jets. I know. I really I'm more 2478 01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:53,400 Speaker 2: excited about them losing than the Jets. I really am. 2479 01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,320 Speaker 2: I can't. Oh, it's great, all right, So I'm taking 2480 01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,880 Speaker 2: the Chiefs both ways. Minute, Fred, So, I need everyone 2481 01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:02,559 Speaker 2: to take out their notepads for this next game eight 2482 01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,280 Speaker 2: twenty on. Oh no, not this game, the next game. 2483 01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:09,720 Speaker 2: So A twenty on NBC and Universo it's the one 2484 01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,760 Speaker 2: and O Bears at the one and O Texans. 2485 01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,519 Speaker 4: Oh, we have to watch this game, Houston by six, 2486 01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,280 Speaker 4: you know what, I'll actually but they got to play 2487 01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,599 Speaker 4: both these teams, so I'll watch this game. But I'm 2488 01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:24,040 Speaker 4: gonna sky. 2489 01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:25,960 Speaker 3: You know, I thought I thought Houston looked good. Man 2490 01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,600 Speaker 3: Tank de ELL's back, He's he's snifty. I mean, my 2491 01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:34,360 Speaker 3: stupid idiot guy Stefan Diggs. He's a good player. Unfortunately, 2492 01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:36,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Houston all allay the points. 2493 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:38,320 Speaker 5: I was talking to my dad yesterday, is in a 2494 01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:41,479 Speaker 5: Survivor pool this year, and I told him to take 2495 01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:45,000 Speaker 5: Houston over Chicago. I almost told him to take I 2496 01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:47,479 Speaker 5: told him to take Baltimore over the Raiders at first, 2497 01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:49,240 Speaker 5: but he said he didn't want to use Baltimore this 2498 01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,120 Speaker 5: early in the season, so we settled on Houston over 2499 01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:55,200 Speaker 5: the Bears. So I'll stick with it. Houston both ways. 2500 01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:58,600 Speaker 5: Alex takes Houston, but she took the points. 2501 01:51:58,240 --> 01:51:59,960 Speaker 3: Oho like Caleb Williams. 2502 01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:02,920 Speaker 5: Sorry, Alex, I skipped over you. I will I'm gonna 2503 01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:03,639 Speaker 5: lay the points. 2504 01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:08,120 Speaker 4: I think I think Caleb Williams would be fine, but 2505 01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:11,400 Speaker 4: he was not fine in the first game. And against Houston, 2506 01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,360 Speaker 4: you're gonna need to keep up. Tennessee allowed them to 2507 01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:16,559 Speaker 4: sort of hang around despite the fact that they couldn't 2508 01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,679 Speaker 4: move the ball. That they won't have that luxury the Texans. 2509 01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:20,639 Speaker 4: I think we'll pull away. 2510 01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. CJ. Stroud says to Caleb, this is 2511 01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:24,960 Speaker 2: what a young quarterback looks like. 2512 01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:25,759 Speaker 1: Boom. 2513 01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:29,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, Texans win that outright now. I need you to 2514 01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:32,879 Speaker 2: take your notepads out. Eight fifteen. This game is on ESPN. 2515 01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:37,120 Speaker 2: It's on ESPN two, It's on ESPN Deportes, and if 2516 01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:39,880 Speaker 2: you're in the Atlanta or Philadelphia area, it's probably on 2517 01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:43,360 Speaker 2: some other channels too. Sure, so a lot of places 2518 01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,680 Speaker 2: covering this game. The oh to one Falcons are at 2519 01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:48,439 Speaker 2: the one to ohero Eagles. 2520 01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:50,280 Speaker 4: Biggles by six and a half. 2521 01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:55,960 Speaker 3: She's my lines are way off this week. Yeah, I 2522 01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:56,840 Speaker 3: just I don't. 2523 01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:57,439 Speaker 5: I don't believe in. 2524 01:52:57,640 --> 01:52:59,360 Speaker 2: You get your lines from Jimmy the Barbers on. 2525 01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:02,240 Speaker 4: The streets to the spread, and I just I just 2526 01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:03,080 Speaker 4: go to DraftKings. 2527 01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,760 Speaker 5: Very ESPN's had the same lines as Paul. 2528 01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,520 Speaker 2: So we go to draft. 2529 01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,400 Speaker 3: Now, this one's Draftings. 2530 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:10,439 Speaker 2: You're listening. 2531 01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:13,479 Speaker 4: Draft means they are presenting sponsor for the post game show. 2532 01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,519 Speaker 4: So I think that we should at least draft. 2533 01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean show a little. 2534 01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:19,600 Speaker 4: I know that every week you mocking my can I 2535 01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:21,479 Speaker 4: can't go to you go to drafting? 2536 01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:22,519 Speaker 2: Why don't you go to draft? 2537 01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:22,920 Speaker 5: I can't. 2538 01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:25,280 Speaker 3: I'm not allowed to. Fred I signed a contract that you're. 2539 01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:26,840 Speaker 4: Not allowed probably it's not allowed to use it. 2540 01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:28,920 Speaker 3: You can't even look at it, Paul, they don't even 2541 01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:29,439 Speaker 3: go to anything. 2542 01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:32,320 Speaker 4: I look at it every week. You can see every 2543 01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:33,439 Speaker 4: Thursday morning I come to. 2544 01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:37,800 Speaker 5: His grandfather going to say has different. 2545 01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:40,679 Speaker 4: Rules, like this is not serious? 2546 01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:45,439 Speaker 2: Right, No, you're not everything I do. 2547 01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,560 Speaker 4: Every Thursday morning, I go on my laptop and I 2548 01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:56,040 Speaker 4: literally google have week whatever it is NFL later slimees DraftKings. 2549 01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:58,320 Speaker 2: I think draftings. We should be able to get it right. 2550 01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:03,840 Speaker 5: Yes, you can go to you just can't. 2551 01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:03,960 Speaker 3: Use the s your funeral. 2552 01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:06,479 Speaker 2: You can take the reser, you just can't. 2553 01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:08,360 Speaker 4: Otherwise you're just sorry. 2554 01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:09,360 Speaker 5: We had to hurry on. 2555 01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:12,599 Speaker 2: Spread. 2556 01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:17,559 Speaker 3: Eagles fly, and I'm gonna lay the points against Atlanta. 2557 01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:19,599 Speaker 3: I'm not a fan, not a fan. They didn't hire Bill? 2558 01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,800 Speaker 4: What did you say? They did not? 2559 01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:33,120 Speaker 5: Speaking of not hiring Bill, who they hire Moster Morris? 2560 01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:36,680 Speaker 5: Of course? Whatever? He Morris. He came out and said 2561 01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:40,720 Speaker 5: point blank that Kirk Cousins stunk last week out in 2562 01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:42,879 Speaker 5: the media. It was like, some of these new coaches 2563 01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,440 Speaker 5: need to learn a filter, you know what I'm saying. Uh, 2564 01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,520 Speaker 5: I'm going to take the Eagles both ways. I did 2565 01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:50,720 Speaker 5: not like what I saw from Atlanta last week either. 2566 01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:52,840 Speaker 4: I would agree that I didn't like anything that I 2567 01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,120 Speaker 4: saw from Atlanta, but I don't think they're that bad. 2568 01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:56,880 Speaker 4: I will take the Eagles to win the game, but 2569 01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:58,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the points. 2570 01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:03,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna take both ways. All right. Now we 2571 01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:07,360 Speaker 2: go back to Sunday at one, and this game is 2572 01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:11,560 Speaker 2: on Fox. Uh the one to oh Seahawks are at 2573 01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:12,640 Speaker 2: the one and oh. 2574 01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,240 Speaker 4: Patriots Seahawks by three and a half. 2575 01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:16,520 Speaker 3: That's correct. 2576 01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:19,000 Speaker 4: Wow, Oh, thank you, thank you Draftking. 2577 01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,520 Speaker 2: So the Patriots get so they're really six and a 2578 01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:23,080 Speaker 2: half pays. 2579 01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:26,760 Speaker 5: Nobody believe that. Nobody believes in us Fred. 2580 01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:28,640 Speaker 2: That you get three points at home and then you 2581 01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:30,040 Speaker 2: get six. So there you go. 2582 01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:30,960 Speaker 9: Uh. 2583 01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:32,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think this is gonna be a 2584 01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:35,640 Speaker 3: tight game, and I really feel like it's gonna be 2585 01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:37,240 Speaker 3: one of those ones. How does an unfold? You know, 2586 01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:38,840 Speaker 3: who gets the lead, who kind of gets off to 2587 01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,720 Speaker 3: the good start and kind of establishes themselves first. They 2588 01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:46,120 Speaker 3: the Kenneth Walker thing is a huge problem for them. 2589 01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:47,880 Speaker 3: He's I mean, but I still think the other guy, Sharbonne, 2590 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:50,680 Speaker 3: is pretty good. But I'm gonna go with the Patriots 2591 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:51,960 Speaker 3: in this one. It might be a little bit more 2592 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,520 Speaker 3: of a heart pick than a head pick, but I 2593 01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,320 Speaker 3: can't pick against my guys right now. I'll take the 2594 01:55:57,320 --> 01:55:59,520 Speaker 3: Patriots twenty four to twenty. 2595 01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:02,520 Speaker 5: So Alex also pick. 2596 01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:05,720 Speaker 2: Alex also likes the Patriots, picking him last week. 2597 01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:09,400 Speaker 4: Twenty one seventeen, Alex picks the Patriots. 2598 01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:14,000 Speaker 2: Look at this check everybody. 2599 01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:17,360 Speaker 5: So the tough thing to me about this picking this 2600 01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:21,320 Speaker 5: game today is we don't know Kenneth Walker's status. If 2601 01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:24,839 Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker was playing for Seattle, I would pick Seattle 2602 01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:30,200 Speaker 5: rather comfortably. Since he is on the fence, I'm gonna 2603 01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:33,520 Speaker 5: say twenty three to twenty Seattle in this game. I 2604 01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:36,600 Speaker 5: just don't think the Patriots have quite enough offense. They 2605 01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:38,640 Speaker 5: have a three headed monster over there in Seattle at 2606 01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:41,760 Speaker 5: wide receiver. I just don't think the Patriots have quite 2607 01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:45,400 Speaker 5: enough offense to keep up. But the Walker injury does 2608 01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:47,320 Speaker 5: make it interesting, so. 2609 01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:52,160 Speaker 4: I have not necessarily changed. I felt like the Patriots 2610 01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:54,080 Speaker 4: this was their best chance for a win early in 2611 01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:57,760 Speaker 4: the season. I'm going to stick with that. I think 2612 01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:02,840 Speaker 4: that they will beat Seattle at home in their home opener. 2613 01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:04,720 Speaker 4: I don't think it'll be easy, and I think what 2614 01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:07,240 Speaker 4: Mike said is really important. Like the start of the game, 2615 01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:09,600 Speaker 4: other Patriots able to dictate the way the game has 2616 01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:11,800 Speaker 4: played the way they were last week. I think that 2617 01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:13,920 Speaker 4: makes all the difference in the world. They throw when 2618 01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:16,440 Speaker 4: they want to, not when they have to. Same thing 2619 01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:18,960 Speaker 4: for Seattle. I think I think the teams are so 2620 01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,160 Speaker 4: kind of similar the way they're set up and the 2621 01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:23,400 Speaker 4: way they want to play. I think this is another 2622 01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,800 Speaker 4: low scoring, field goal oriented game. I'm going to say 2623 01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:28,480 Speaker 4: sixteen thirteen pats. 2624 01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:31,480 Speaker 2: Paul, You and I are are very close there. I 2625 01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:37,240 Speaker 2: say seventeen sixteen pats. So well, one point, I don't think. 2626 01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:39,160 Speaker 2: I don't think Mike will be able to handle that. 2627 01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:40,480 Speaker 2: I think I want Mike will. 2628 01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:43,000 Speaker 3: Be I had heart palpitations last week, and I don't 2629 01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,640 Speaker 3: think I'm gonna drink coffee this week because I will 2630 01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:48,880 Speaker 3: have I will of course good that, thank you. 2631 01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I am not sleeping on Seattle. I just think 2632 01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:53,240 Speaker 4: it's a good spot for the Patriots. 2633 01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:59,760 Speaker 2: But that is something everybody forge Patriots. How one week changes? 2634 01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:02,120 Speaker 4: I know, not everybody picked. 2635 01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:03,920 Speaker 2: I said, everyone except Oh I'm sorry. 2636 01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:06,560 Speaker 5: I have to see them for more than one and twenty. 2637 01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:12,120 Speaker 2: On All Access. How did that go? What did Mike pick? 2638 01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:15,680 Speaker 4: Mike and I both picked the Patriots too close, close games, 2639 01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:18,040 Speaker 4: low school Steve Burton pick on that show. Burton has 2640 01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:19,960 Speaker 4: never picked against them, so that doesn't count. 2641 01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:20,520 Speaker 3: Never. 2642 01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:22,560 Speaker 5: He chastised us last. 2643 01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:25,760 Speaker 4: Week for not being on board. Afterwards, well before when 2644 01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:28,000 Speaker 4: it happened, Yeah, and then and then he then he 2645 01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:29,080 Speaker 4: took a bow this week. 2646 01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:32,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, sounds familiar. 2647 01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:35,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think Seattle's pretty good, but I don't 2648 01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:36,640 Speaker 4: think there as good as if. 2649 01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:38,880 Speaker 2: This was Tuesday. I would have picked Seattle, I swear 2650 01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:42,120 Speaker 2: to God. But the more I learned how close they are, 2651 01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:46,400 Speaker 2: how they're made up, and then the injuries to their defense. 2652 01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:48,840 Speaker 4: Only four starters that didn't practice yesterday. 2653 01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:50,200 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that that swayed me. 2654 01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:54,160 Speaker 5: That get I don't understand how they're similar. Like that's 2655 01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:55,040 Speaker 5: the part that I'm not getting. 2656 01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:57,240 Speaker 4: I think they want to run well they Seattle definitely 2657 01:58:57,240 --> 01:59:00,280 Speaker 4: has better receivers, but they both want to run the ball. 2658 01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,080 Speaker 4: They want to lean on defense, they want to be 2659 01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:05,160 Speaker 4: physical when they want to throw in spots. 2660 01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:06,400 Speaker 2: I don't think head coach. 2661 01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,840 Speaker 4: Defensive mind, dude coaches, Well that's the way they've played 2662 01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:12,320 Speaker 4: for a while. Now, that's the way they played in 2663 01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,520 Speaker 4: the first game. Yeah, so I'm just going to assume. 2664 01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:17,920 Speaker 5: Well, when you're Denver six guys in the box defensively, 2665 01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:20,040 Speaker 5: then you're probably going to run the ball. I just 2666 01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,320 Speaker 5: look at Seattle and I look at those three receivers 2667 01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:24,440 Speaker 5: like I would take any one of those receivers as 2668 01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:26,600 Speaker 5: the Patriots number one guy tomorrow. 2669 01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:29,080 Speaker 4: I would agree with that. And so I just don't 2670 01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:31,000 Speaker 4: I don't think Geno Smith is any good. 2671 01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:32,840 Speaker 3: I think if it's a problem, it's going to be 2672 01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:34,520 Speaker 3: the pass rush too. It's gonna you know, like those 2673 01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:35,960 Speaker 3: guys can cover a little bit, but it's going to 2674 01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:38,120 Speaker 3: be Geno Smith. You're not able, you know. And and 2675 01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:40,720 Speaker 3: a couple of times he'll take opportunities to squirt out 2676 01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:42,680 Speaker 3: and get it get some first downs, you know. I 2677 01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:44,640 Speaker 3: just that that if it goes bad that I think 2678 01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:46,520 Speaker 3: you're right, and it's going to be we couldn't get 2679 01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:46,760 Speaker 3: to them. 2680 01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:48,800 Speaker 4: I'm not telling you this is a lock or anything 2681 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:51,360 Speaker 4: like that. I mean, Evan might be right. I think 2682 01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:53,240 Speaker 4: you could come out and they could just say, you 2683 01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:54,560 Speaker 4: know what, We're going to spread them out with three 2684 01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:56,040 Speaker 4: We're going to go three wides. We're going to throw 2685 01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:58,000 Speaker 4: the ball all over the place, and before you know it, 2686 01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:00,880 Speaker 4: it's fourteen to three in the middle of the secondar Gino. Yeah, 2687 02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:03,800 Speaker 4: I mean I could see that kind of a thing happening. 2688 02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:06,080 Speaker 4: I just I think it's probably going to be another tight, 2689 02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:09,160 Speaker 4: low scoring, defensive minded game, and I like the Patriots 2690 02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:10,920 Speaker 4: chances at home in that kind of a game. 2691 02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:12,000 Speaker 5: I hope you guys are right. 2692 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, assuming they don't make the mistakes of 2693 02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:18,200 Speaker 2: last year and they keep it relatively clean, I like 2694 02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:18,959 Speaker 2: their chances. 2695 02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:22,880 Speaker 4: You know what, if Seattle doesn't make any mistakes, it's going. 2696 02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:24,960 Speaker 2: To be a close game. Yeah. 2697 02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:27,280 Speaker 4: I think Seattle doesn't make any mistakes. Evan's going to 2698 02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:27,600 Speaker 4: be right. 2699 02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:30,720 Speaker 5: I just worry about the fact that, to me, Zach 2700 02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:33,240 Speaker 5: Taylor refused to run the ball in that game last 2701 02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:36,960 Speaker 5: week when the Patriots were begging them to run the football. 2702 02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:39,080 Speaker 5: And I don't think Seattle is going to have that 2703 02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:40,960 Speaker 5: kind of issue. Like if the Patriots are going to 2704 02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:43,080 Speaker 5: play a bunch of two deep zone. Seattle's going to 2705 02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:43,880 Speaker 5: turn the ball, certainly. 2706 02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:45,440 Speaker 2: Both teams are going to look at the other team 2707 02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:48,360 Speaker 2: from the week before, and yeah, you know, but just 2708 02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:50,240 Speaker 2: like us, how much does that tell you about the 2709 02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:52,920 Speaker 2: team just one week? So I think there could be 2710 02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:54,560 Speaker 2: surprises in store for both teams. 2711 02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:58,120 Speaker 4: To Evan's point, the Bengals average four point four yards 2712 02:00:58,160 --> 02:01:00,920 Speaker 4: to carry last week, same as the Patriots. They just 2713 02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:01,560 Speaker 4: didn't run. 2714 02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,800 Speaker 2: The ball right, all right, that's gonna be it for 2715 02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:09,360 Speaker 2: this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Stay tuned for Catch twenty two. 2716 02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:12,040 Speaker 2: And I don't know how many minutes, like fifteen, or 2717 02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:14,320 Speaker 2: it's gonna go right over. Yeah, yeah, because about five minutes, 2718 02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:16,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna go right away. Okay, Alex is here. He's 2719 02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:17,840 Speaker 2: from my show, Alexe is here, So you're gonna go 2720 02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:20,080 Speaker 2: right into Cash twenty two. So stay tuned for that 2721 02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:25,360 Speaker 2: and uh, you can see you next Tuesday. 2722 02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading this podcast. 2723 02:01:28,440 --> 02:01:31,720 Speaker 2: Subscribe on Apple, google Play, and everywhere else you listen. 2724 02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:35,320 Speaker 1: Like the show, Please rate and review us. 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