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Speaker 1: here at one Jets Drive join by the head coach
Speaker 1: of the Saint Louis BattleHawks, Anthony Beck, who still is
Speaker 1: doing Jets content as an analyst. But let's start right there.
Speaker 1: XFL Year one. How much do you enjoy it?
Speaker 2: Brother?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: It was a blast? You know, I think for me,
Speaker 2: you build something from the ground up with your players
Speaker 2: and staff. You go through training camp and you're really
Speaker 2: not sure what you have until you get out there.
Speaker 2: And there was a lot of anticipation, a lot of
Speaker 2: nerves and anxiety for me, first time head coach, trying
Speaker 2: to do everything right, trying to get guys prepared for
Speaker 2: the first time. And then we had an outstanding season.
Speaker 2: Man seven and three kind of got snubbed from the
Speaker 2: playoffs with the rules and whatnot, but we were definitely
Speaker 2: a playoff team, but we had some opportunities at the
Speaker 2: end to seal our fate and get in, but we
Speaker 2: didn't quite get over that hump. But just extremely talented
Speaker 2: football team. We really did a nice job of finding
Speaker 2: really good players to fill our roster, not just our roster,
Speaker 2: but we had about ten other players we released that
Speaker 2: actually played for other teams. So just really good just
Speaker 2: finding the right player too. You know, not only were
Speaker 2: they good players, they were good people, high character, you know,
Speaker 2: minimal issues throughout the season, but we had our standard
Speaker 2: you know, things that came up popped up throughout the year.
Speaker 2: But other than that, man, the experience with the XFL
Speaker 2: did ownership top to bottom first class. Really didn't know
Speaker 2: what to expect, but I knew obviously with Danny Garcia, Duwayne,
Speaker 2: the Rock Johnson and the Redburg Capitol group that they
Speaker 2: were really about the players and from top to bottom,
Speaker 2: where we stayed, where we practiced, the food we ate
Speaker 2: every day, how we traveled on the road, just really
Speaker 2: a plus across the board. Really impressed on you know
Speaker 2: how they did and really set that up for our
Speaker 2: staff and our players. So our players had a great environment.
Speaker 2: We were able to build something fairly quickly. It's another
Speaker 2: thing too, just trying to get a culture build in
Speaker 2: forty days of training camp. You know, these guys never
Speaker 2: met each other, never been around each other, having been
Speaker 2: coached by our guys, didn't know me. So just really
Speaker 2: all in all, from top to bottom. A great process
Speaker 2: and I loved it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I immersed myself in every possible detail, angle situation that
Speaker 2: I possibly could, and you know, put that time in
Speaker 2: every day that we're there as if I was coaching
Speaker 2: an NFL team, right, So just grind it for you know,
Speaker 2: four and a half five months and just loved it.
Speaker 2: Loved waking up early, loved going to bed late, you know,
Speaker 2: working with the staff, the players, and really ended up
Speaker 2: being a super successful season for twenty twenty three, one.
Speaker 1: Of the four aces in the Jets two thousand draft class.
Speaker 1: Of course, you played more than ten years in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. At what point did he get the
Speaker 1: itch for coaching? When did that brug enter your body?
Speaker 2: You know, after I took a year off after my
Speaker 2: last season in twenty eleven, I really put a lot
Speaker 2: of options out on the table. You know. I was
Speaker 2: really brought into a lot of the teams that I
Speaker 2: played for in the back end of my career to
Speaker 2: really add to the leadership of the locker room, the
Speaker 2: tight end room, add to the group, the experience of
Speaker 2: the knowledge and help the coach that was actually in
Speaker 2: the in the tight end room as well. You know,
Speaker 2: those were things that I just grew to love. I
Speaker 2: loved helping players. I loved helping you know, guys come together,
Speaker 2: understand not only the tight end position, but also galvanize
Speaker 2: a locker room. And those things happened a lot later
Speaker 2: in my career when I was you know, that veteran
Speaker 2: type of player. After I was done, you know, it
Speaker 2: was media, I was coaching. There was my family, my kids,
Speaker 2: A lot of different things there that kind of pointed
Speaker 2: me into a different direction. I was still able to
Speaker 2: coach in a smaller level nflp Agent, collegiate All Star
Speaker 2: games I did those those were great, kind of kept
Speaker 2: my toes in the water a little bit. I trained
Speaker 2: some of the top tight ends coming out of the
Speaker 2: draft for you know, over that stretch of time from
Speaker 2: twenty twelve on and really started towards the end of
Speaker 2: or at least most recently last couple of years, get
Speaker 2: involved in coaching. Went out in the AAF, did that
Speaker 2: full time in that spring league in San Diego, and
Speaker 2: coach Marts really helped propel me, kind of like pushing
Speaker 2: me out of the media side and say, listen, man,
Speaker 2: you got too much knowledge, too much there to give
Speaker 2: back to players, you know, you need to be coaching
Speaker 2: in some capacity. So that was a great start for
Speaker 2: me from a full time standpoint. And then obviously when
Speaker 2: this opportunity with the XFL came about and my kids
Speaker 2: now in college, been able to do a lot of
Speaker 2: other things, this was the right time for me. And
Speaker 2: you know, calling games for ten years with ESPN and
Speaker 2: the college landscape, NFL landscape, working with the Jets, all
Speaker 2: different types of capacities that really kind of helped me
Speaker 2: understand the game, the player a little bit more from
Speaker 2: the college standpoint and currently what the league is doing.
Speaker 2: And for me, just okay, I've learned so much from
Speaker 2: different organizations, from coaches, from other leaders and players I've
Speaker 2: been around. Now it's okay, how can I put that
Speaker 2: together and also now do it the way I want
Speaker 2: to do it. So I'm very fortunate to get the
Speaker 2: head coaching opportunity worked my way, sold a vision to
Speaker 2: the XFL, and then once I got in, man, I
Speaker 2: was all in. I was ready to go. It was
Speaker 2: perfect timing for me, and right now I love what
Speaker 2: I'm doing that It's a great space for me, and
Speaker 2: like I said, this is a space where players want
Speaker 2: the knowledge they have chips on their shoulders and they're
Speaker 2: this close to getting to the goal that they want
Speaker 2: to reach. Whether that's the NFL, whether that's just continuing
Speaker 2: to play football at a professional level, whatever that may be.
Speaker 2: It's my job to fill those holes, and I think
Speaker 2: this is the best space for it.
Speaker 1: You were all in, you dove in to the deep
Speaker 1: waters after that last game, you guys finished seven to three.
Speaker 1: You go to the podium and all the emotions overcame
Speaker 1: you can you talk about that experience you finish up
Speaker 1: that first regular season and all those experiences that you
Speaker 1: guys had coming to a conclusion. What was that like
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 2: You know what? Honestly, that scenario was interesting because you know,
Speaker 2: we're in a game where we had to score a
Speaker 2: ton of points. We couldn't give up a lot of points.
Speaker 2: We were doing some things that were really unorthodox. Right.
Speaker 2: You had the game in hand by the third quarter,
Speaker 2: but you still have to push your players and you're
Speaker 2: trying to score more. And it just kind of hit me. Man,
Speaker 2: I've been in their shoes. I know how hard it
Speaker 2: is to play the game at the level you have
Speaker 2: to play at. What your body is going through, what
Speaker 2: these guys have gone through for ten weeks of the
Speaker 2: season in the training room, trying to be available for
Speaker 2: me every single week, playing through injuries, going through training camp,
Speaker 2: and to have to go into that game and try
Speaker 2: to do more than you normally would have to. It
Speaker 2: was emotional for me because I understand those levels that
Speaker 2: you push your body to, and it just, you know,
Speaker 2: I was just so appreciative of what the players had done,
Speaker 2: not only in that game, but up to that point.
Speaker 2: You know, they really bought into what I was, you know,
Speaker 2: really selling for them and what I was trying to
Speaker 2: push them to, and every single week they gave it
Speaker 2: my all, and it just kind of hit me a
Speaker 2: little bit on just what we had to do in
Speaker 2: that final game, the limits that they pushed themselves, and
Speaker 2: I just was deeply, you know, had a lot of
Speaker 2: gratitude for what they had done to that point, being
Speaker 2: that you know, that game was in hand into the
Speaker 2: early third quarter and they had to keep pushing themselves
Speaker 2: and pushing themselves. It was great for the fans to see.
Speaker 2: It was exciting. We had some great plays, but you know,
Speaker 2: also knowing that man, these guys, you know, guys had
Speaker 2: hamstrings knees, you know, all kinds of different things, you know,
Speaker 2: lower backs, elbows, hands, thumbs, fingers. I mean just you
Speaker 2: know where you really could have pulled back in that opportunity,
Speaker 2: we had to push forward, and they did it without
Speaker 2: any excuse, without any you know, sideways looking at me
Speaker 2: and they and they really finished the season strong. So
Speaker 2: it was just more of an emotion towards the gratitude
Speaker 2: of the players.
Speaker 1: How about the gratitude for the fans. Man Saint Louis
Speaker 1: was rocking, did you guys say, the best attendance in
Speaker 1: the XFL.
Speaker 2: They killed it, really, you know. And I tried to
Speaker 2: immerse myself with the fan base early on. You know,
Speaker 2: we didn't have a team when I was hired last February,
Speaker 2: you know, so I had to do a lot of
Speaker 2: the leg work and interactions. I tried to touch as
Speaker 2: many fans on social media as possible, just you know,
Speaker 2: trying to do different things in the market. When I
Speaker 2: went up there probably four or five times prior to
Speaker 2: the season starting, and I just promised, I said, look,
Speaker 2: I needed them to show up every week. I needed
Speaker 2: as many fans as possible where I wanted them to
Speaker 2: break the spring attendance records every single week, and I
Speaker 2: promised them that in return, I'd give them a good product.
Speaker 2: I just believed in what we had from a players standpoint,
Speaker 2: I believed in what we could build, and I believed
Speaker 2: in the vision that I had, And even though there
Speaker 2: was probably not a lot of clarity on what it
Speaker 2: would be game one, I just knew if we did
Speaker 2: it the right way, found the right players, that we
Speaker 2: could give these fans not only just football, but give
Speaker 2: them a winning product, give them something, you know, to
Speaker 2: show up and cheer for every single week, and give
Speaker 2: them the opportunity to see a team push their way
Speaker 2: and try to get to the goal of winning a championship.
Speaker 2: And we were able to do that. But they showed up,
Speaker 2: they showed out. I think we broke the attendance record
Speaker 2: the I think we had the five highest attendance rated
Speaker 2: crowds in our five home games in five straight consecutive weeks.
Speaker 2: But man, they were awesome. Face paint outfits, T shirts,
Speaker 2: shoulder pads, helmets, swords, hawk feathers. I mean, they lined
Speaker 2: up before the game's entranced into this into the domeforce
Speaker 2: waited for us, came early, and they were great on
Speaker 2: third down, man, I really pushed the envelope. I wanted
Speaker 2: that place to be a difference maker, and it was
Speaker 2: great for our players because, you know, Eric like, it's
Speaker 2: one thing to play the game, to push and do
Speaker 2: things at the professional level to try to continue to
Speaker 2: enhance your game, but also under the pressures and constraints
Speaker 2: of a crowd, noise, of scenarios and situations where the
Speaker 2: noise and the crowd mat especially when you had guys
Speaker 2: on defense trying to communicate. The crowds loud, they're trying to,
Speaker 2: you know, make it hard for the offense. If you're
Speaker 2: able to play under those constraints as well, that's almost
Speaker 2: as realistic as playing in the NFL, and that's what
Speaker 2: those guys need as well. So I'm just very thankful
Speaker 2: for the fan base coming out every single week and
Speaker 2: supporting our team, and just glad we're able to give
Speaker 2: them a winner year one.
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about your relationship with The Rock,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Johnson, Because if anybody's following you on social media,
Speaker 1: the Rock was all over what Saint Louis was doing,
Speaker 1: and of course his involvement in the XFL is well known.
Speaker 1: That's widely publicized, but it seemed like you guys had
Speaker 1: quite a few back and forth throughout the year we did.
Speaker 2: He's so passionate about what this league is, what it's about.
Speaker 2: You know, he was selling the entire time. You know,
Speaker 2: that fifty four number. He was that guy that was
Speaker 2: on the outskirts, that needed that opportunity, that needed that
Speaker 2: league to really help him get to the draft, to
Speaker 2: the NFL. He wasn't able to get drafted, He wasn't
Speaker 2: able to get that chance, went to the Canadian League,
Speaker 2: wasn't quite the developmental league that he was looking for.
Speaker 2: And you know, look it worked out for him obviously,
Speaker 2: and what he's doing now, but he's really passionate about
Speaker 2: helping these players, allowing them and give them that opportunity
Speaker 2: to kind of pursue themselves. I mean, this is kind
Speaker 2: of a per you know, you'd be surprised how many
Speaker 2: guys are in this kind of purgatory between college and
Speaker 2: NFL that have either gotten a chance, gotten there, was invited, practiced,
Speaker 2: made a couple of years, still have it, but yet
Speaker 2: can't latch on because their skills haven't been able to
Speaker 2: continue to develop, because they haven't been able to play more.
Speaker 2: They just they're there, but you know, they didn't get
Speaker 2: that opportunity to continue to show and shine. And this
Speaker 2: is what this league is for. You're talking about thousands
Speaker 2: of players that went to showcases, that tried to reach
Speaker 2: out to me on social media, just any way possible
Speaker 2: to try to get a chance, and you're evaluating you're
Speaker 2: trying to pick fifty one players to be on your roster.
Speaker 2: It's incredibly hard. And you know, our league was able
Speaker 2: to allow four hundred plus players to kind of continue
Speaker 2: their dream and show that they can, you know, play
Speaker 2: at a high level, play at a higher level. And
Speaker 2: we're seeing that now in the back end, guys getting signed,
Speaker 2: invited to mini camps. You guys had a few players,
Speaker 2: I mean, just really a unique opportunity for these players
Speaker 2: to really get their shot after they've worked so hard
Speaker 2: and continue to get it through our company and XFL
Speaker 2: in our league. You know, Dwayne just really did a
Speaker 2: great job pushing that envelope for them and speaking to
Speaker 2: them personally. We all came together in training camp and
Speaker 2: all the ownership was there, and then of course the
Speaker 2: led work of Danny Garcia, the first female she's a
Speaker 2: woman of football right. She's our commissioner, she's our leader,
Speaker 2: our chairwoman, and she did a great job of just
Speaker 2: putting together what needed to be there and showing nothing
Speaker 2: and being there for the fans and the players at
Speaker 2: the stadiums, at the games, at the practices, and really
Speaker 2: developing a league that can help these guys shine and
Speaker 2: pursue their dreams.
Speaker 1: What was your mindset as a head coach you taking
Speaker 1: on this role for the first time in a new league.
Speaker 1: How did you go about connecting with the guys? But
Speaker 1: also what kind of personality do you think your team
Speaker 1: took on to the field that kind of embodied everything
Speaker 1: that you wanted them to have.
Speaker 2: You know, I just only knew one way as a
Speaker 2: player how to do it. Head down, lunch pail, blue collar, fight,
Speaker 2: be be available, be accountable. Uh. You know the discipline
Speaker 2: it takes to play four quarters. Uh, minimizing mistakes and
Speaker 2: making sure the mental side was was as clear and
Speaker 2: and and and and really the ability for them to
Speaker 2: to push through adversity uh and come out on the
Speaker 2: other side in a positive way. Number One, I had
Speaker 2: to gain my players trust and that that encompasses a
Speaker 2: lot of things. It encompasses Okay, what we're doing on
Speaker 2: the practice field, why we're doing it. You know, why
Speaker 2: we're tackling today. You know, we don't have a lot
Speaker 2: of time to do these things. Why are these things important?
Speaker 2: But also from a personal level, understanding that every player,
Speaker 2: when I sit and talk to them in front of
Speaker 2: a large space in our team meeting, that they're not
Speaker 2: going to really some guys are going to take in
Speaker 2: things differently. It may work for them, it may not.
Speaker 2: But when we break it down on the field and
Speaker 2: I get to know these guys, understanding who they are,
Speaker 2: why they're playing, what their why is, and what pushes them.
Speaker 2: Some guys, you can they want to get it. You know,
Speaker 2: they want to want you to get in their backside
Speaker 2: right every single day in practice. They want to push
Speaker 2: you a limit. Some guys you got to pull them
Speaker 2: to the side and talk to them, you know. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: you can't coddle every player, but you've got to be
Speaker 2: able to deliver the message properly so you get the
Speaker 2: most out of it from each and every player. And
Speaker 2: then also the mental side, the mental wealth and well
Speaker 2: being of these players. I really kept my door open
Speaker 2: for them because I want a clarity for them, and
Speaker 2: I wanted to offer help if I could in any
Speaker 2: way possible for me because a lot of these guys
Speaker 2: aren't coming from riches. A lot of these guys aren't
Speaker 2: coming from situations that are great. You know, we're paying
Speaker 2: our guys really good for four months. They make really
Speaker 2: decent money for that four month span. But kids, family, friends, girlfriends, wives,
Speaker 2: they're living together, they're roommateing, you know, twenty six year
Speaker 2: old guys have roommates. I mean, it's you know, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of factors that go into it. As you're
Speaker 2: striving to reach your goal that some of them may
Speaker 2: never reach, quite frankly, So you know, just for those
Speaker 2: guys to understand they can come to me and they're
Speaker 2: going to get that same guy every single day. So
Speaker 2: got to be able to push their buttons, push the
Speaker 2: envelope for them and get the most out of them
Speaker 2: on a day to day basis. Totally be engaged with that.
Speaker 2: But also it can't be coach speak every day. You
Speaker 2: have to be able to connect with your guys and
Speaker 2: I tried my best to do that, and ultimately, when
Speaker 2: we got to the field in game one, we saw
Speaker 2: guys that were present in the moment that were you know,
Speaker 2: prepared to what to do the obstacle that we're ahead
Speaker 2: of them, to fight through for four quarters, to play
Speaker 2: with that hustle to to to be you know properly,
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, don't go out there and be
Speaker 2: on sportsman life to stay away from those kind of
Speaker 2: those penalties that really hurt our team and to really
Speaker 2: you know, play with the passion and understand it every
Speaker 2: week means something and it's big, and it's the resume
Speaker 2: and just you got to stay on them in this league,
Speaker 2: and i'd say for coach solid too in a professional ranks.
Speaker 2: With the generation that you're dealing with now, your message,
Speaker 2: the way you teach things has to be constant every
Speaker 2: single week and day. You have to be made You
Speaker 2: have to make sure you're pushing and continually saying and
Speaker 2: pushing the same thing sometimes almost because it's got to
Speaker 2: be ingrained in them on a day to day basis.
Speaker 2: If you explain something, you go through something, you teach something,
Speaker 2: and you assume they're going to pick it up orther,
Speaker 2: you assume they're going to learn it a certain way
Speaker 2: that and that's it, it's done. Is a really naive
Speaker 2: for you as a coach and a leader, a man
Speaker 2: of LEADERSHI have to think that way because unfortunately, in
Speaker 2: the generation win, there's a lot of distractions. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of things now that are out there that aren't
Speaker 2: quite as concise as maybe when I played, you know,
Speaker 2: just two decades ago, which isn't that long, but it
Speaker 2: was a different time. We didn't have those things. So
Speaker 2: doing all those things in a short amount of time,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to just be strategic with it was
Speaker 2: my plan. And ultimately it really comes down to can
Speaker 2: you win and lose? You know how your win and
Speaker 2: your performance come down to it. We were able to
Speaker 2: do a really good job of it. So I'll go back,
Speaker 2: I'll critique myself like everybody gets assessed, players, coaches, and
Speaker 2: again try to make it better. For twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Win percentage of seventies not too bad. In year one.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Robert Sala there. We've worked quite a few
Speaker 1: Jets game days together over the past few years. What
Speaker 1: was your reaction when you heard that not only did
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers want to play in the National Football League
Speaker 1: this season, but he wanted to play for the Jets.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, unbelievable for the organization. You know, we looked
Speaker 2: at this thing, Eric, and we watched these young players
Speaker 2: come in the last couple of years with coach Sala
Speaker 2: and Joe Douglas, and what their plan was year one,
Speaker 2: year two, and now with this year three to add
Speaker 2: that piece, that golden piece at the quarterback position. And
Speaker 2: this isn't disrespectful to Zach Wilson or anyone else that's
Speaker 2: on the roster. When you get a chance to get
Speaker 2: a guy like Aaron Rodgers, a guy that can arguably
Speaker 2: can take you to a championship with the pieces you
Speaker 2: have around you immediately, that's just it's monstrous. And you
Speaker 2: got a lot of young, good, talented players that play
Speaker 2: the game for the right reasons, that go out there
Speaker 2: and work hard, have great character, and are really mature
Speaker 2: above their years. And you have all these pieces now
Speaker 2: where you feel like you can make that push. What's
Speaker 2: that last piece of the puzzle? You know, I think
Speaker 2: any team in the league, regardless of their quarterback they have,
Speaker 2: would love to have an Aaron Rodgers. I think he's
Speaker 2: got a lot of football left. He seems very passionate about,
Speaker 2: you know, making this decision, pushing forward and making the
Speaker 2: most of it, and he believes he can win. I mean,
Speaker 2: if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: New York, great market, sounds great, But man like I'm not.
Speaker 2: I got all the notoriety, I have all the money,
Speaker 2: all these things. I got to go somewhere where I
Speaker 2: can win. And I'm sure he had other options and
Speaker 2: places to look at. And when he looked at this
Speaker 2: roster top to bottom, he looked at the coaching staff.
Speaker 2: Robert Salah, you know, Nathaniel Hacket, who comes in as
Speaker 2: the coordinatory, be able to really plug yourself in and
Speaker 2: be another coach on the field. I mean that recipically
Speaker 2: for me, as I look at AJ mccerrn, similar understands
Speaker 2: our system knows what Bruce Grakowski the plays. I mean,
Speaker 2: immediately can jump in. Now he can be like an
Speaker 2: additional OC for your players and play at a high level.
Speaker 2: And now he just has to go out and perform.
Speaker 2: And we all know that he's done that at a
Speaker 2: very high level for his entire career. And you know,
Speaker 2: we've seen players like Tom Brady and some of these
Speaker 2: players play longer in their career. The way the rules
Speaker 2: are set up. This is great, man, and this is
Speaker 2: going to be a phenomenal season. You know. Look, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure that comes with it too, not
Speaker 2: for him, but for everyone else to perform at that level.
Speaker 2: To be able to go out there now and turn
Speaker 2: that switch on and think of yourself as one of
Speaker 2: the better teams in the NFL and do that week
Speaker 2: the week. You know that for the coaching staff the
Speaker 2: same way Robert solid that this is a team now
Speaker 2: that has to make that huge jump, right. It's not
Speaker 2: just getting to the playoffs, you know. To me, it's
Speaker 2: pushing forward winning a playoff game, getting to that goal
Speaker 2: of potentially winning a Super Bowl. But man, that piece
Speaker 2: that's there now, I can't wait to see it. I mean,
Speaker 2: this might be the most defining moment in Jet's history
Speaker 2: as far as when you talk about the leadership and
Speaker 2: the player at that position, where it's been the last two, three,
Speaker 2: four decades, all the way back to Joe Namath. This
Speaker 2: is pretty incredible. So it's a special time and you
Speaker 2: pray for all those other pieces to be healthy and
Speaker 2: get through the season, and if you had that man
Speaker 2: and the pieces that Joe Uggas has continued to put
Speaker 2: on this football team. It's unprecedented where we are in
Speaker 2: the organization and the era for the Jets.
Speaker 1: You play in between the white lines at thirty nine
Speaker 1: and Rogers is going to turn forward in December. What
Speaker 1: is he right now? What does he physically bring to
Speaker 1: the field at this point? And you just mentioned it.
Speaker 1: It's not like Rogers is the only piece here. But
Speaker 1: what he Johnson said at the beginning of the offseason,
Speaker 1: quarterbacks been the missing piece. So you find that missing piece.
Speaker 1: What does Rogers have to be for the Jets?
Speaker 2: The same guy he's been his entire career. You know,
Speaker 2: the fact that he's there now like currently as we
Speaker 2: speak is great. He gets that, right, he knows the
Speaker 2: importance of it. He's not a guy that's going to
Speaker 2: be sticking around in past years. He's going to train himself.
Speaker 2: He's going to get to where he needs to be
Speaker 2: and prepare himself for the season. So the fact that
Speaker 2: he's he understands that there's not that you know, that
Speaker 2: that sense of self selfishness that Okay, yeah, I'm there,
Speaker 2: I get it, I know the offense, I don't have
Speaker 2: to be He knows he's got to build the report
Speaker 2: with receivers, with the lineman, with all these guys to
Speaker 2: really build something so it works quickly. That that's the goal.
Speaker 2: Week one, you need to come out the gate firing.
Speaker 2: And it's not an easy schedule, man. This is a
Speaker 2: schedule early on that's going to be you know, it's
Speaker 2: going to test the fortitude of this team because you know,
Speaker 2: if you want to get where you want to be
Speaker 2: and and you want to get to those goals, you
Speaker 2: got to beat those teams. You got to play those teams,
Speaker 2: and they're going to get that chance this year. So
Speaker 2: you know, he's going to be prepared. I think that's
Speaker 2: the number one thing. The fact that he's there leads
Speaker 2: me to believe that he is going to have himself
Speaker 2: ready to go, and then ultimately can he help prepare
Speaker 2: and get everybody else around him ready? Is it his responsibility? No,
Speaker 2: but it's his responsibility to build that camaraderie, to build
Speaker 2: that team, and that's the quarterbacks job. That he knows
Speaker 2: that that's what he did in Green Bay for all
Speaker 2: these years, and that's why those players loved playing with him. Lineman,
Speaker 2: running backsight ends, they loved playing with Aaron Rodgers, and
Speaker 2: now he's got to kind of do that over again.
Speaker 2: And I think the best thing about it is he
Speaker 2: did it away in Green Bay that maybe, okay, he
Speaker 2: thought was a good way he kind of tried to
Speaker 2: do things. But now he uses those experiences and now
Speaker 2: comes here fresh where nobody really knows, with a couple
Speaker 2: of players that have been around him, obviously, like Lizard
Speaker 2: and Randall, to really build something and do it the
Speaker 2: way that he wants it so that everybody's on the
Speaker 2: same page. And I think that starts with play calling.
Speaker 2: The play caller, all that stuff is in line, and
Speaker 2: I just think you play a little harder. Okay, if
Speaker 2: you're a lineman, a tight end. I remember, you know
Speaker 2: when I used to block for Curtis Martin, you know,
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame back, You just you didn't want to
Speaker 2: let that man down, right because you saw he played
Speaker 2: through injury. I saw the things that he did on
Speaker 2: a day to day basis, and it just took personal
Speaker 2: responsibility for me to go out there and be great
Speaker 2: for him as best or be as great as I
Speaker 2: could be in that moment. And I think that's what
Speaker 2: the lineman and guys like that will feel a sense
Speaker 2: of I gotta protect this guy. I gotta catch this ball.
Speaker 2: If I'm a tight end, if I'm a running back,
Speaker 2: I gotta get these yards. I gotta pass protect because
Speaker 2: he earns that respect. I saw that in Tampa with
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, same kind of situation. Guys stepped up their game.
Speaker 2: It was barely sacked. They protected him and he went
Speaker 2: out there and did his thing at a high level.
Speaker 2: So this is really an interesting time and I just
Speaker 2: think that those are the things that I'm interested to
Speaker 2: see how that grows and develops, and how guys strain
Speaker 2: a little more, not that they weren't in the past,
Speaker 2: not that they weren't playing one hundred percent, but sometimes
Speaker 2: in your mind mentally you just push it to the
Speaker 2: next envelope because you want to be great around a
Speaker 2: guy that's as great as Alan Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Do you see the parallels there with Brady. Brady had
Speaker 1: that illustrious twenty year run essentially with New England. Then
Speaker 1: he comes to Tampa that first year. Where the most
Speaker 1: significant difference, I would say, ab the way I look
Speaker 1: at it is you just mentioned it, is that Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers to a place where he's already got familiarity with
Speaker 1: the coordinator, like he loves Nathaniel Hackett. Those guys have
Speaker 1: an established relationship. And you said he could be an
Speaker 1: extension of the coaching staff and essentially another coach on
Speaker 1: the field where Brady goes to a very talented Tampa roster,
Speaker 1: but he and Bruce arians had to come together and
Speaker 1: figure out that system over time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that that's that was big. I mean, he
Speaker 2: talked about that being a foreign language when he came
Speaker 2: in there and learning the system. A lot of the
Speaker 2: things are the same, but the terminologies that was challenging
Speaker 2: for him. And ultimately that that was that slow start
Speaker 2: that they had that first year. Now they were able
Speaker 2: to pick it up in the back end and it clicked.
Speaker 2: But because you got a guy like Tom Brady that
Speaker 2: can handle that. But it's really it's it's gonna be
Speaker 2: easy for Nathaniel, it's gonna be easy for Aaron obviously
Speaker 2: because they know it. Because of theirs youth in this team,
Speaker 2: really good youth, talented youth that they're gonna have to
Speaker 2: pick up a new system, you know, like and Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2: You know, there's gonna be some similarities, but terminologies are
Speaker 2: different wordings, different so you have to rego through that process.
Speaker 2: And they picked it up great last year, which was great,
Speaker 2: but now they're gonna have to do it again. And
Speaker 2: I just see those guys excelling. I know, guys like
Speaker 2: Breest Hall, I know what he's about. He's going to
Speaker 2: be a better player than he was last year. Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 2: you watch him play multiple quarterbacks, the numbers he put up.
Speaker 2: Now he's got a guy like Aaron Rodgers, Like I
Speaker 2: just to me, a sky is the limit on how
Speaker 2: good he can be. There were more proven talented players
Speaker 2: around Brady and Tampa than there are with the Jets,
Speaker 2: but don't misconsue that as not as talented, because they
Speaker 2: do have the talent. And then defensively, the pieces were
Speaker 2: there to really hold teams when you got those leads
Speaker 2: and really do some good things on the defensive side,
Speaker 2: which is good. The fact you have a defensive coach,
Speaker 2: head coach that now, okay, all those efforts, those things
Speaker 2: and we saw from last year how well they played
Speaker 2: throughout the season and improved from the year before. Those
Speaker 2: things are going to you know, be even bigger now
Speaker 2: and helpful in my opinion, because if you get now
Speaker 2: where you become a team that's a little more offensive
Speaker 2: and you put up points. The way the other team
Speaker 2: plays against you is a little bit more riskier if
Speaker 2: you can get those leads. Now it's reversed. So now
Speaker 2: that that's a positive for the defense, and I think
Speaker 2: that can allow them to be even better than they were.
Speaker 2: So the growth in the development of the system of
Speaker 2: everybody learning it outside of the quarterback is going to
Speaker 2: be really something that's important. And that's why Aaron's there
Speaker 2: right now, right, So that's that extra guy, and it's
Speaker 2: it's going to be vitally important for the skill players
Speaker 2: and the running backs and the line to really get
Speaker 2: on this quickly, and they will because that's their job.
Speaker 2: This is how you do it. I mean it can
Speaker 2: it's easily done OTAs all this stuff is there for
Speaker 2: them to get it, so when they hit training camp
Speaker 2: they can hit the ground running. But again, it's nice
Speaker 2: to know that your quarterback and your OCO will be
Speaker 2: on the same page, have a good feel, and those
Speaker 2: things will mesh well. And now it's just coordinating. Okay,
Speaker 2: you utilize the talent within the system that Nathaniel Hackett's running,
Speaker 2: so you can maximize the play from the people that
Speaker 2: are on the field.
Speaker 1: So your son Rocoll plays quarterback at Iowa State for
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell. I gotta imagine that you guys had big
Speaker 1: smiles on your faces for a second consecutive draft weekend
Speaker 1: because Brice Hall, after the Jets selection of Will McDonald
Speaker 1: with the fifteenth pick in this year's first round, said
Speaker 1: the New York Cyclones. Because the Jets not only draft
Speaker 1: Hall last year and he was fantastic in his first
Speaker 1: seven games, but they signed Ellen Lazard free agency, a
Speaker 1: former Cyclone, and then they come back in the first
Speaker 1: round with Will McDonald.
Speaker 2: What do you think? Really awesome? Rocco got to throw
Speaker 2: to Allen a couple times when he came back to
Speaker 2: the facility. You know, in the offseason, it's just great man.
Speaker 2: Breese Hall. They still stay in touch. Breese Hall is
Speaker 2: just an incredible player. She's a home run hit man.
Speaker 2: He just, uh, he's big time. I knew he would
Speaker 2: be better in the league. I mean, for whatever was
Speaker 2: a five six games that he played, he was the
Speaker 2: best back in the NFL arguably right yards from scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Everything he did and he was the component for this team.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: When he comes back, he's healthy, that's huge. And then
Speaker 2: Will McDonald obviously got to watch every snap of him
Speaker 2: last year, going to all the games. Extremely talented player,
Speaker 2: elite pass rusher. The dude's got a major chip on
Speaker 2: his shoulder. You know, you guys will document the stories.
Speaker 2: He's come from nothing. Man, This kid is as humble
Speaker 2: as it gets. Works his butt off and I mean
Speaker 2: probably a little bit misused at Iowa State because of
Speaker 2: the defensive structure that they have.
Speaker 1: To help on a tackle last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I did love that, but I
Speaker 2: get it that's where they were. He's just not you know,
Speaker 2: that body type. Hurt that right, but he was still effective.
Speaker 2: But again, cranking him outside now, putting them on an
Speaker 2: island with somebody, I just it's gonna be fun to
Speaker 2: watch because for him, I think it's going to add
Speaker 2: a layer of his game that he hasn't been able
Speaker 2: to really show as much, you know, being out there
Speaker 2: every single time now, and you know, he's probably not
Speaker 2: going to be used much in that run stopping game,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's a passing league, so he's going
Speaker 2: to be used in a lot of those scenarios. I think,
Speaker 2: you know, he could easily be a double digit guy
Speaker 2: year one. I just I just see it. And you know, again,
Speaker 2: size is always effective. But we've seen guys come into
Speaker 2: the league, uh you know a little bit underskis longer,
Speaker 2: guys have been able to get it done. He'll get
Speaker 2: stronger and he'll get bigger, but you know, he's always
Speaker 2: been a guy that can play. He's got an incredible
Speaker 2: motor number one, so you know, against the run, chasing
Speaker 2: things down across the field, backside, outside, he's got all that.
Speaker 2: Now you know he can do that, and he's got
Speaker 2: a verage of pass moves that you know with his flexibility,
Speaker 2: dip spin, it's a little bit of a different level.
Speaker 2: You know, you're not you don't see that every day
Speaker 2: in practice. And you know Carl last on the X
Speaker 2: high motor guy, right like, he goes as hard as
Speaker 2: you can possibly go. But the things that will can do,
Speaker 2: you know with his body because he's not as big,
Speaker 2: the flextion, the dipping, the spin, the balance of staying
Speaker 2: on your feet, all those different things, that's a game
Speaker 2: changer now when you look at it. So really excited
Speaker 2: to see him, but yeah, I always state ties are
Speaker 2: great man. I love it. You know, and it's the
Speaker 2: reason why my son picked the school. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: Matt Campbell has developed players, developed men, high character, elite players.
Speaker 2: You look at every year, they're getting guys drafted at
Speaker 2: the highest level. Xavier Hutchinson got drafted this year. Receiver
Speaker 2: is going to be phenomenal in Houston. I think he
Speaker 2: got drafted later than he should have. I think he's
Speaker 2: going to be a really good player. He'll be a
Speaker 2: starter for them at the receiver position. So they're putting
Speaker 2: players out and I had several of them on my
Speaker 2: team because I just know the fabric that they come from, right,
Speaker 2: so I just know that I can count a lot
Speaker 2: of the intangible things that I need I don't have
Speaker 2: to develop. They're gonna have that, and they're gonna be
Speaker 2: able to just by attrition pass that on right to
Speaker 2: the other guys that I had on my team, like
Speaker 2: Mike Rose the linebacker and and Keem Butler. These guys
Speaker 2: are going to be playing in the league next year.
Speaker 2: I know they're gonna sign. They're going to do those
Speaker 2: things because those are the kind of guys that the
Speaker 2: league wants. But they still have talent. So it's great
Speaker 2: to see you know, who knows. We'll see what the
Speaker 2: future lies with the Cyclone players moving forward. But I
Speaker 2: think it's awesome. Man, these are good players. These guys
Speaker 2: get it and they come in a little bit beyond
Speaker 2: their years, which I think helps them succeed. We saw
Speaker 2: that last year with Breese and and hopefully we see
Speaker 2: that this year with Will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so ab says Will McDonald, would not be a
Speaker 1: surprise for him to come out of the gate with
Speaker 1: double digit sacks. You know that Jets are gonna put
Speaker 1: him in fortuitous positions as far as the concerned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, another thing too, like let's go like put him
Speaker 2: out there, like we need him to be involved like
Speaker 2: a sap and and and just put them into the
Speaker 2: into the into the fire. You know, I remember John
Speaker 2: Abraham getting drafted. You know, he was more of a
Speaker 2: situational guy early in his career. But hey, let's go like,
Speaker 2: let's play him. Let's get this guy to learn and
Speaker 2: understand the tempo, the play of what it takes to
Speaker 2: be a premier pass rusher going against the very best
Speaker 2: tackles in the league every single week, and let him
Speaker 2: get those reps. And even if you're sacrificing on taking
Speaker 2: a chance in some of those second down circumstances where
Speaker 2: it may be a run or pass, and you take
Speaker 2: those chances. He's still he can still play the run.
Speaker 2: It's just that he's got to be creative on how
Speaker 2: he attacks and gets to that back and he's got
Speaker 2: those weapons in his toolbox. So I want to see
Speaker 2: him on the field often as much as possible, and
Speaker 2: let's go because this team is in dire need for
Speaker 2: a guy that can do it at his level, and
Speaker 2: he needs those reps, constant reps every single day and
Speaker 2: every single week on Sundays.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the arms race? What is
Speaker 1: which is the AFC East? The Bills have won the
Speaker 1: last three division championships. You got Miami who made the
Speaker 1: playoffs last season AB and they were there toe to
Speaker 1: toe with the Bills in the postseason with Skyler Thompson
Speaker 1: playing quarterback. They add Jalen Ramsey in the offseason and
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio is their new defensive coordinator. Buffalo's made some
Speaker 1: changes to the roster, most notably I guess you would
Speaker 1: say adding Dalton Kincaid out of Utah. So maybe they're
Speaker 1: gonna see more two tight end sets for the Bills
Speaker 1: in Josh Allen. The Jets will host will host the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills twenty two years after nine to eleven. Of course,
Speaker 1: in September eleventh there at METLFE Stadium to open the season.
Speaker 1: You talk about the gaunt with the Jets are gonna
Speaker 1: have those first six games, and then New England is
Speaker 1: always tough as well. They bring Bill O'Brien back to
Speaker 1: beat the offensive coordinator, so you figure there would be
Speaker 1: better offensively, but we might be looking at a division
Speaker 1: where New England's looking up at everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, incredibly incredibly tough division. Everybody is continuing to amp up,
Speaker 2: and you know you'd like to see, obviously the Jets
Speaker 2: where they finally get those pieces in place where everybody's
Speaker 2: kind of trickling trying to find a way, But this
Speaker 2: is this is how it is, man. Every team is
Speaker 2: trying to get to that pinnacle every single year. So
Speaker 2: this division is going to be outstanding. I think the
Speaker 2: Jets should feel good about how they played against these
Speaker 2: teams in the division last year, and now the pieces
Speaker 2: that you have coming back that you've added in the
Speaker 2: offseason clearly is going to take you to a level
Speaker 2: that you feel really good about defensively. Obviously for the
Speaker 2: Jets that that's a huge point because they played well
Speaker 2: pretty much against everyone in the division throughout the years,
Speaker 2: so it was really getting that spark offensively. How many
Speaker 2: games did we watch Eric where we just if we
Speaker 2: just had a score here, we just had to drive here,
Speaker 2: Like those things are so vitally important because of the
Speaker 2: way the defense played. All those pieces are back, So
Speaker 2: I think that's just going to be a huge difference
Speaker 2: on the field. Yeah, when you look at our schedule,
Speaker 2: I think we looked at the schedule last year. You know,
Speaker 2: there was a guy out there, a former NFL guy,
Speaker 2: Brady Quinn that talked about eight or nine through them
Speaker 2: because he looked at that schedule and thought it was devastating. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: we look at the schedule this year and we say, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: from last year, the way they play this is tough.
Speaker 2: But we don't know how things are going to shake out.
Speaker 2: You never know how those things unfold, and and you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes it's it's the teams that are playing the Jets
Speaker 2: are in their mind, what are they thinking, Like, man,
Speaker 2: we got to deal with them. They're they're pesky. They
Speaker 2: were pesky last year and they didn't have a great offense,
Speaker 2: and now they got Aaron Rodgers and now things change, right,
Speaker 2: So now it's it's a different mindset on how teams
Speaker 2: think about you, which is vitally important in this process
Speaker 2: as well. So Joe Douglas his staff continues to load up,
Speaker 2: continue to get young players establish themselves. And now you're
Speaker 2: a problem even though your division stronger, maybe the best
Speaker 2: division of football, and your schedule looks demanding. But you
Speaker 2: got to look at on the flip side, teams don't
Speaker 2: want to play you either. You need to take advantage
Speaker 2: of those situations. And I just look at it that way.
Speaker 2: I look at the schedule, I see I can see eleven, twelve,
Speaker 2: ten to twelve. I can see those things happening for
Speaker 2: this team. But one week at a time, man, they
Speaker 2: got to figure it out. Come out guns of blazing
Speaker 2: to start the season and get to the playoffs early.
Speaker 2: Like come out so you have a swagger and a
Speaker 2: confidence about yourself where you're believing week two, three, four,
Speaker 2: so that when you're making that push and you get
Speaker 2: to that back end, there'll be some ups and downs.
Speaker 2: Guys finding the same page to speed the tempo, they
Speaker 2: can they still have enough to win those games and
Speaker 2: get through it and then bam on the back end
Speaker 2: of the season, which we know, we'll blink our eyes
Speaker 2: and we'll be there. Then now you see the team
Speaker 2: that Okay, this is the team we drafted, these are
Speaker 2: the players we brought in. This is where we want
Speaker 2: to be, and now we're going to make that push
Speaker 2: in year, in that vital year. Now. So that's what
Speaker 2: I see for the for the twenty twenty three season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's end here as a guy who played with
Speaker 1: the last division winner two thousand and two, Jets win
Speaker 1: the division at nine to seven. You play to win
Speaker 1: the games. What do you think about the environment that
Speaker 1: is going to be at MetLife this season as far
Speaker 1: as Aaron Rodgers come to town. You saw the Jets
Speaker 1: take those steps from four and thirteen where they embraced
Speaker 1: the youth movement. They nearly double that win total last year,
Speaker 1: go to seven and ten. That was a playoff team,
Speaker 1: had not you endured so many injuries and gotten some
Speaker 1: consistent play from the quarterback position. But I mean they
Speaker 1: finished with a six game losing streak.
Speaker 2: Ga B.
Speaker 1: You were seven to four, as we know very well.
Speaker 1: But now you add Rogers to the equation, what do
Speaker 1: you think it's going to be like as a guy
Speaker 1: who played in front of these fans and they're so
Speaker 1: hungry for a winning winner, so starving for a winner,
Speaker 1: what do you think the environment's going to be like
Speaker 1: at home this year?
Speaker 2: Is this where I make my Saint Louis BattleHawks fans
Speaker 2: pitch to the Jets fans as well to get them
Speaker 2: listen that look, if you're a Jet fan, okay, and
Speaker 2: you've been upset, you've been waiting like you talk about,
Speaker 2: or you've been a diehard that's been there every single
Speaker 2: week for the last decade, two decades, show up this year.
Speaker 2: I just to me, it's just such a game changer.
Speaker 2: You look at some of these teams, Kansas City, Seattle,
Speaker 2: when they're at home, it is a different animal, different perspective.
Speaker 2: Players have to deal with another piece of trying to
Speaker 2: win a game. You know, you look at those stadiums
Speaker 2: filled and listen. Jet fans have been incredible. When I
Speaker 2: go to the games, I love seeing them. They're tailgating.
Speaker 2: There's so many passionate fans. But we got to get
Speaker 2: more coming back. We got to get more in those seats.
Speaker 2: We got to get more folks showing up early. Too
Speaker 2: early on is the best. The weather's great, right, so
Speaker 2: that to me is a huge factor in it. But
Speaker 2: I just feel like, man, players really feed off that.
Speaker 2: Players know that that can help them. It hurts opposing
Speaker 2: teams off, especially in those crucial downs. Man, we see
Speaker 2: it so many times every single week. If that place
Speaker 2: is rocking and rolling, every one of them seats is
Speaker 2: filled throughout, and you got these players, they will feed
Speaker 2: off that, man, and it could be a special season.
Speaker 2: You don't want to miss that, you know if I'm
Speaker 2: talking from a fans perspective, because this could be a
Speaker 2: special year and there's always going to be those we'll
Speaker 2: wait and see. I'll wait till they win or But
Speaker 2: to me, why, I mean, like, if you're a true
Speaker 2: Jet fan and your schedule's open, let's go, like, show up,
Speaker 2: be there. This organization is now doing everything they can
Speaker 2: to give you the players to put a product on
Speaker 2: the field. You can be proud of the fact that
Speaker 2: they went out and got Aaron Rodgers and made that happen.
Speaker 2: Speaks volumes about where Woody Johnson is, Joe Douglass and
Speaker 2: this team is trying to be right. They're not trying
Speaker 2: to just compete in the division. They're trying to win
Speaker 2: a championship. It's like a legit real thing for this
Speaker 2: team now on what they have. Don't miss these year,
Speaker 2: two year, three year run that they're going to have
Speaker 2: where it can be really special. So I can't wait
Speaker 2: to see the crowd Week one. I can't wait till it.
Speaker 2: What it looks like, it's going to be awesome and
Speaker 2: it's going to be a special season. So yes, show up,
Speaker 2: I mean the fans are it's going to be awesome. Man.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that crowd and really how
Speaker 2: that's going to be an advantage for this team this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, think about those first four games the Bills nine
Speaker 1: to eleven. Then you come back Week three, the Patriots,
Speaker 1: a long time nemesis. They got a fourteen game win
Speaker 1: streak over the Jets in the regular season. I've been
Speaker 1: on Rockers saying the streak ends there. I don't want
Speaker 1: to get too far ahead of myself, ab But then
Speaker 1: Week four it's Aaron Rodgers Patrick Mahomes head to head
Speaker 1: for the first time in their careers. And then after
Speaker 1: a Week five day to Denver, the Jets come home
Speaker 1: and play the second Super Bowl participant from last year,
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, So it is going to be a
Speaker 1: fun slate throughout. The Jets are must see TV. The
Speaker 1: NFL knows that. That's why they put them on five
Speaker 1: times in primetime in the Black Friday Game as well.
Speaker 1: We are so happy about the success you had so
Speaker 1: far have had so far in the XFL. The head
Speaker 1: coach of the Saint Louis BattleHawks, that's Anthony Beck. But
Speaker 1: he also hopefully is coming back for some analysis in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three of the New York Jets as well, because,
Speaker 1: like you just mentioned, hey man, we must see a
Speaker 1: must watch and we got to have your analysis next.
Speaker 2: Season, no doubt. You know you mentioned the schedule. I
Speaker 2: love the schedule makers for the primetime action because that
Speaker 2: gives me some more wiggle room to get from Ames,
Speaker 2: Iowa to where I need to be in Florham Park
Speaker 2: in the stadium. So yeah, it's it's gonna be great.
Speaker 2: I can't wait. It's gonna be fun. It'll start off
Speaker 2: for me in the preseason calling two of the preseason
Speaker 2: games and we'll see what the what the year looks
Speaker 2: like but looking forward to working with you again Thanks
Speaker 2: brother Yod,