1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Official Jets bod is presented by win Bet Betting is 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: a team sport bet together at win Bet. Eric Allen 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: here at one Jets Drive join by the head coach 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: of the Saint Louis BattleHawks, Anthony Beck, who still is 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: doing Jets content as an analyst. But let's start right there. 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: XFL Year one. How much do you enjoy it? 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Brother? 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Man? 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: It was a blast? You know, I think for me, 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: you build something from the ground up with your players 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: and staff. You go through training camp and you're really 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: not sure what you have until you get out there. 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: And there was a lot of anticipation, a lot of 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: nerves and anxiety for me, first time head coach, trying 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: to do everything right, trying to get guys prepared for 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: the first time. And then we had an outstanding season. 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: Man seven and three kind of got snubbed from the 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: playoffs with the rules and whatnot, but we were definitely 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: a playoff team, but we had some opportunities at the 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: end to seal our fate and get in, but we 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: didn't quite get over that hump. But just extremely talented 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: football team. We really did a nice job of finding 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: really good players to fill our roster, not just our roster, 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: but we had about ten other players we released that 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: actually played for other teams. So just really good just 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: finding the right player too. You know, not only were 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: they good players, they were good people, high character, you know, 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: minimal issues throughout the season, but we had our standard 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: you know, things that came up popped up throughout the year. 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: But other than that, man, the experience with the XFL 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: did ownership top to bottom first class. Really didn't know 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: what to expect, but I knew obviously with Danny Garcia, Duwayne, 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: the Rock Johnson and the Redburg Capitol group that they 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: were really about the players and from top to bottom, 35 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: where we stayed, where we practiced, the food we ate 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: every day, how we traveled on the road, just really 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: a plus across the board. Really impressed on you know 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: how they did and really set that up for our 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: staff and our players. So our players had a great environment. 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: We were able to build something fairly quickly. It's another 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: thing too, just trying to get a culture build in 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: forty days of training camp. You know, these guys never 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: met each other, never been around each other, having been 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: coached by our guys, didn't know me. So just really 45 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: all in all, from top to bottom. A great process 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: and I loved it. 47 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Man. 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: I immersed myself in every possible detail, angle situation that 49 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: I possibly could, and you know, put that time in 50 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: every day that we're there as if I was coaching 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: an NFL team, right, So just grind it for you know, 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: four and a half five months and just loved it. 53 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: Loved waking up early, loved going to bed late, you know, 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: working with the staff, the players, and really ended up 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: being a super successful season for twenty twenty three, one. 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: Of the four aces in the Jets two thousand draft class. 57 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: Of course, you played more than ten years in the 58 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: National Football League. At what point did he get the 59 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: itch for coaching? When did that brug enter your body? 60 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: You know, after I took a year off after my 61 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: last season in twenty eleven, I really put a lot 62 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: of options out on the table. You know. I was 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: really brought into a lot of the teams that I 64 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: played for in the back end of my career to 65 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: really add to the leadership of the locker room, the 66 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: tight end room, add to the group, the experience of 67 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: the knowledge and help the coach that was actually in 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: the in the tight end room as well. You know, 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: those were things that I just grew to love. I 70 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: loved helping players. I loved helping you know, guys come together, 71 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: understand not only the tight end position, but also galvanize 72 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: a locker room. And those things happened a lot later 73 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: in my career when I was you know, that veteran 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: type of player. After I was done, you know, it 75 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: was media, I was coaching. There was my family, my kids, 76 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: A lot of different things there that kind of pointed 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: me into a different direction. I was still able to 78 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: coach in a smaller level nflp Agent, collegiate All Star 79 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: games I did those those were great, kind of kept 80 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: my toes in the water a little bit. I trained 81 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: some of the top tight ends coming out of the 82 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: draft for you know, over that stretch of time from 83 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: twenty twelve on and really started towards the end of 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: or at least most recently last couple of years, get 85 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: involved in coaching. Went out in the AAF, did that 86 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: full time in that spring league in San Diego, and 87 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: coach Marts really helped propel me, kind of like pushing 88 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: me out of the media side and say, listen, man, 89 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: you got too much knowledge, too much there to give 90 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: back to players, you know, you need to be coaching 91 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: in some capacity. So that was a great start for 92 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: me from a full time standpoint. And then obviously when 93 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: this opportunity with the XFL came about and my kids 94 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: now in college, been able to do a lot of 95 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: other things, this was the right time for me. And 96 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: you know, calling games for ten years with ESPN and 97 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: the college landscape, NFL landscape, working with the Jets, all 98 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: different types of capacities that really kind of helped me 99 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: understand the game, the player a little bit more from 100 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: the college standpoint and currently what the league is doing. 101 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: And for me, just okay, I've learned so much from 102 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: different organizations, from coaches, from other leaders and players I've 103 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: been around. Now it's okay, how can I put that 104 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: together and also now do it the way I want 105 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: to do it. So I'm very fortunate to get the 106 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: head coaching opportunity worked my way, sold a vision to 107 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: the XFL, and then once I got in, man, I 108 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: was all in. I was ready to go. It was 109 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: perfect timing for me, and right now I love what 110 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 2: I'm doing that It's a great space for me, and 111 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: like I said, this is a space where players want 112 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: the knowledge they have chips on their shoulders and they're 113 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: this close to getting to the goal that they want 114 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: to reach. Whether that's the NFL, whether that's just continuing 115 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: to play football at a professional level, whatever that may be. 116 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: It's my job to fill those holes, and I think 117 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 2: this is the best space for it. 118 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: You were all in, you dove in to the deep 119 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: waters after that last game, you guys finished seven to three. 120 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: You go to the podium and all the emotions overcame 121 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: you can you talk about that experience you finish up 122 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: that first regular season and all those experiences that you 123 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: guys had coming to a conclusion. What was that like 124 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: for you? 125 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: You know what? Honestly, that scenario was interesting because you know, 126 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: we're in a game where we had to score a 127 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: ton of points. We couldn't give up a lot of points. 128 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: We were doing some things that were really unorthodox. Right. 129 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: You had the game in hand by the third quarter, 130 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: but you still have to push your players and you're 131 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: trying to score more. And it just kind of hit me. Man, 132 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: I've been in their shoes. I know how hard it 133 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: is to play the game at the level you have 134 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: to play at. What your body is going through, what 135 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: these guys have gone through for ten weeks of the 136 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: season in the training room, trying to be available for 137 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: me every single week, playing through injuries, going through training camp, 138 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: and to have to go into that game and try 139 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: to do more than you normally would have to. It 140 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: was emotional for me because I understand those levels that 141 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: you push your body to, and it just, you know, 142 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: I was just so appreciative of what the players had done, 143 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: not only in that game, but up to that point. 144 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: You know, they really bought into what I was, you know, 145 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: really selling for them and what I was trying to 146 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: push them to, and every single week they gave it 147 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: my all, and it just kind of hit me a 148 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: little bit on just what we had to do in 149 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: that final game, the limits that they pushed themselves, and 150 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: I just was deeply, you know, had a lot of 151 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: gratitude for what they had done to that point, being 152 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: that you know, that game was in hand into the 153 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: early third quarter and they had to keep pushing themselves 154 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: and pushing themselves. It was great for the fans to see. 155 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: It was exciting. We had some great plays, but you know, 156 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: also knowing that man, these guys, you know, guys had 157 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: hamstrings knees, you know, all kinds of different things, you know, 158 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: lower backs, elbows, hands, thumbs, fingers. I mean just you 159 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: know where you really could have pulled back in that opportunity, 160 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: we had to push forward, and they did it without 161 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: any excuse, without any you know, sideways looking at me 162 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: and they and they really finished the season strong. So 163 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: it was just more of an emotion towards the gratitude 164 00:07:59,280 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: of the players. 165 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: How about the gratitude for the fans. Man Saint Louis 166 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: was rocking, did you guys say, the best attendance in 167 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: the XFL. 168 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: They killed it, really, you know. And I tried to 169 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: immerse myself with the fan base early on. You know, 170 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: we didn't have a team when I was hired last February, 171 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: you know, so I had to do a lot of 172 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: the leg work and interactions. I tried to touch as 173 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: many fans on social media as possible, just you know, 174 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: trying to do different things in the market. When I 175 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: went up there probably four or five times prior to 176 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: the season starting, and I just promised, I said, look, 177 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: I needed them to show up every week. I needed 178 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: as many fans as possible where I wanted them to 179 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: break the spring attendance records every single week, and I 180 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: promised them that in return, I'd give them a good product. 181 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: I just believed in what we had from a players standpoint, 182 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: I believed in what we could build, and I believed 183 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: in the vision that I had, And even though there 184 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: was probably not a lot of clarity on what it 185 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: would be game one, I just knew if we did 186 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 2: it the right way, found the right players, that we 187 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: could give these fans not only just football, but give 188 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: them a winning product, give them something, you know, to 189 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: show up and cheer for every single week, and give 190 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: them the opportunity to see a team push their way 191 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: and try to get to the goal of winning a championship. 192 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: And we were able to do that. But they showed up, 193 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: they showed out. I think we broke the attendance record 194 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: the I think we had the five highest attendance rated 195 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: crowds in our five home games in five straight consecutive weeks. 196 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: But man, they were awesome. Face paint outfits, T shirts, 197 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: shoulder pads, helmets, swords, hawk feathers. I mean, they lined 198 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: up before the game's entranced into this into the domeforce 199 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: waited for us, came early, and they were great on 200 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: third down, man, I really pushed the envelope. I wanted 201 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 2: that place to be a difference maker, and it was 202 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: great for our players because, you know, Eric like, it's 203 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: one thing to play the game, to push and do 204 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: things at the professional level to try to continue to 205 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: enhance your game, but also under the pressures and constraints 206 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: of a crowd, noise, of scenarios and situations where the 207 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: noise and the crowd mat especially when you had guys 208 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: on defense trying to communicate. The crowds loud, they're trying to, 209 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: you know, make it hard for the offense. If you're 210 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: able to play under those constraints as well, that's almost 211 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: as realistic as playing in the NFL, and that's what 212 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 2: those guys need as well. So I'm just very thankful 213 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: for the fan base coming out every single week and 214 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: supporting our team, and just glad we're able to give 215 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: them a winner year one. 216 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about your relationship with The Rock, 217 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: Dwayne Johnson, Because if anybody's following you on social media, 218 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: the Rock was all over what Saint Louis was doing, 219 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: and of course his involvement in the XFL is well known. 220 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: That's widely publicized, but it seemed like you guys had 221 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: quite a few back and forth throughout the year we did. 222 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: He's so passionate about what this league is, what it's about. 223 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: You know, he was selling the entire time. You know, 224 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: that fifty four number. He was that guy that was 225 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: on the outskirts, that needed that opportunity, that needed that 226 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: league to really help him get to the draft, to 227 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: the NFL. He wasn't able to get drafted, He wasn't 228 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: able to get that chance, went to the Canadian League, 229 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: wasn't quite the developmental league that he was looking for. 230 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: And you know, look it worked out for him obviously, 231 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: and what he's doing now, but he's really passionate about 232 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: helping these players, allowing them and give them that opportunity 233 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: to kind of pursue themselves. I mean, this is kind 234 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: of a per you know, you'd be surprised how many 235 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: guys are in this kind of purgatory between college and 236 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,359 Speaker 2: NFL that have either gotten a chance, gotten there, was invited, practiced, 237 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: made a couple of years, still have it, but yet 238 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: can't latch on because their skills haven't been able to 239 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: continue to develop, because they haven't been able to play more. 240 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: They just they're there, but you know, they didn't get 241 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: that opportunity to continue to show and shine. And this 242 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: is what this league is for. You're talking about thousands 243 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: of players that went to showcases, that tried to reach 244 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: out to me on social media, just any way possible 245 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: to try to get a chance, and you're evaluating you're 246 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 2: trying to pick fifty one players to be on your roster. 247 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: It's incredibly hard. And you know, our league was able 248 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: to allow four hundred plus players to kind of continue 249 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: their dream and show that they can, you know, play 250 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: at a high level, play at a higher level. And 251 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: we're seeing that now in the back end, guys getting signed, 252 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: invited to mini camps. You guys had a few players, 253 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: I mean, just really a unique opportunity for these players 254 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: to really get their shot after they've worked so hard 255 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: and continue to get it through our company and XFL 256 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: in our league. You know, Dwayne just really did a 257 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: great job pushing that envelope for them and speaking to 258 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: them personally. We all came together in training camp and 259 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 2: all the ownership was there, and then of course the 260 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: led work of Danny Garcia, the first female she's a 261 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: woman of football right. She's our commissioner, she's our leader, 262 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: our chairwoman, and she did a great job of just 263 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: putting together what needed to be there and showing nothing 264 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: and being there for the fans and the players at 265 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: the stadiums, at the games, at the practices, and really 266 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: developing a league that can help these guys shine and 267 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: pursue their dreams. 268 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: What was your mindset as a head coach you taking 269 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: on this role for the first time in a new league. 270 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: How did you go about connecting with the guys? But 271 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: also what kind of personality do you think your team 272 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: took on to the field that kind of embodied everything 273 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: that you wanted them to have. 274 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: You know, I just only knew one way as a 275 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 2: player how to do it. Head down, lunch pail, blue collar, fight, 276 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: be be available, be accountable. Uh. You know the discipline 277 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: it takes to play four quarters. Uh, minimizing mistakes and 278 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: making sure the mental side was was as clear and 279 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: and and and and really the ability for them to 280 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: to push through adversity uh and come out on the 281 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: other side in a positive way. Number One, I had 282 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 2: to gain my players trust and that that encompasses a 283 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: lot of things. It encompasses Okay, what we're doing on 284 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: the practice field, why we're doing it. You know, why 285 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: we're tackling today. You know, we don't have a lot 286 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: of time to do these things. Why are these things important? 287 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: But also from a personal level, understanding that every player, 288 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: when I sit and talk to them in front of 289 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: a large space in our team meeting, that they're not 290 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: going to really some guys are going to take in 291 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: things differently. It may work for them, it may not. 292 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: But when we break it down on the field and 293 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: I get to know these guys, understanding who they are, 294 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: why they're playing, what their why is, and what pushes them. 295 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: Some guys, you can they want to get it. You know, 296 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: they want to want you to get in their backside 297 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: right every single day in practice. They want to push 298 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: you a limit. Some guys you got to pull them 299 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: to the side and talk to them, you know. I mean, look, 300 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: you can't coddle every player, but you've got to be 301 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: able to deliver the message properly so you get the 302 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: most out of it from each and every player. And 303 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: then also the mental side, the mental wealth and well 304 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: being of these players. I really kept my door open 305 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: for them because I want a clarity for them, and 306 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: I wanted to offer help if I could in any 307 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: way possible for me because a lot of these guys 308 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: aren't coming from riches. A lot of these guys aren't 309 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: coming from situations that are great. You know, we're paying 310 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: our guys really good for four months. They make really 311 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: decent money for that four month span. But kids, family, friends, girlfriends, wives, 312 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: they're living together, they're roommateing, you know, twenty six year 313 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: old guys have roommates. I mean, it's you know, there's 314 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: a lot of factors that go into it. As you're 315 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: striving to reach your goal that some of them may 316 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: never reach, quite frankly, So you know, just for those 317 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: guys to understand they can come to me and they're 318 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: going to get that same guy every single day. So 319 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: got to be able to push their buttons, push the 320 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: envelope for them and get the most out of them 321 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: on a day to day basis. Totally be engaged with that. 322 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: But also it can't be coach speak every day. You 323 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: have to be able to connect with your guys and 324 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: I tried my best to do that, and ultimately, when 325 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: we got to the field in game one, we saw 326 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: guys that were present in the moment that were you know, 327 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: prepared to what to do the obstacle that we're ahead 328 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: of them, to fight through for four quarters, to play 329 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: with that hustle to to to be you know properly, 330 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: I guess, you know, don't go out there and be 331 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: on sportsman life to stay away from those kind of 332 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: those penalties that really hurt our team and to really 333 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: you know, play with the passion and understand it every 334 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: week means something and it's big, and it's the resume 335 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: and just you got to stay on them in this league, 336 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: and i'd say for coach solid too in a professional ranks. 337 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: With the generation that you're dealing with now, your message, 338 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: the way you teach things has to be constant every 339 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: single week and day. You have to be made You 340 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: have to make sure you're pushing and continually saying and 341 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: pushing the same thing sometimes almost because it's got to 342 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: be ingrained in them on a day to day basis. 343 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: If you explain something, you go through something, you teach something, 344 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: and you assume they're going to pick it up orther, 345 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: you assume they're going to learn it a certain way 346 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: that and that's it, it's done. Is a really naive 347 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: for you as a coach and a leader, a man 348 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: of LEADERSHI have to think that way because unfortunately, in 349 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: the generation win, there's a lot of distractions. There's a 350 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: lot of things now that are out there that aren't 351 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 2: quite as concise as maybe when I played, you know, 352 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: just two decades ago, which isn't that long, but it 353 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: was a different time. We didn't have those things. So 354 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: doing all those things in a short amount of time, 355 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: you know, trying to just be strategic with it was 356 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: my plan. And ultimately it really comes down to can 357 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: you win and lose? You know how your win and 358 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 2: your performance come down to it. We were able to 359 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: do a really good job of it. So I'll go back, 360 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: I'll critique myself like everybody gets assessed, players, coaches, and 361 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: again try to make it better. For twenty twenty four. 362 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: Win percentage of seventies not too bad. In year one. 363 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: You mentioned Robert Sala there. We've worked quite a few 364 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: Jets game days together over the past few years. What 365 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: was your reaction when you heard that not only did 366 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers want to play in the National Football League 367 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: this season, but he wanted to play for the Jets. 368 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, unbelievable for the organization. You know, we looked 369 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: at this thing, Eric, and we watched these young players 370 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: come in the last couple of years with coach Sala 371 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: and Joe Douglas, and what their plan was year one, 372 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: year two, and now with this year three to add 373 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: that piece, that golden piece at the quarterback position. And 374 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: this isn't disrespectful to Zach Wilson or anyone else that's 375 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: on the roster. When you get a chance to get 376 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: a guy like Aaron Rodgers, a guy that can arguably 377 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: can take you to a championship with the pieces you 378 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: have around you immediately, that's just it's monstrous. And you 379 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: got a lot of young, good, talented players that play 380 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: the game for the right reasons, that go out there 381 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: and work hard, have great character, and are really mature 382 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: above their years. And you have all these pieces now 383 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: where you feel like you can make that push. What's 384 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 2: that last piece of the puzzle? You know, I think 385 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: any team in the league, regardless of their quarterback they have, 386 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: would love to have an Aaron Rodgers. I think he's 387 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: got a lot of football left. He seems very passionate about, 388 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: you know, making this decision, pushing forward and making the 389 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: most of it, and he believes he can win. I mean, 390 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, Okay, yeah, 391 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: New York, great market, sounds great, But man like I'm not. 392 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: I got all the notoriety, I have all the money, 393 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: all these things. I got to go somewhere where I 394 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: can win. And I'm sure he had other options and 395 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 2: places to look at. And when he looked at this 396 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: roster top to bottom, he looked at the coaching staff. 397 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 2: Robert Salah, you know, Nathaniel Hacket, who comes in as 398 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: the coordinatory, be able to really plug yourself in and 399 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: be another coach on the field. I mean that recipically 400 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: for me, as I look at AJ mccerrn, similar understands 401 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: our system knows what Bruce Grakowski the plays. I mean, 402 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: immediately can jump in. Now he can be like an 403 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 2: additional OC for your players and play at a high level. 404 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: And now he just has to go out and perform. 405 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: And we all know that he's done that at a 406 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 2: very high level for his entire career. And you know, 407 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: we've seen players like Tom Brady and some of these 408 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: players play longer in their career. The way the rules 409 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 2: are set up. This is great, man, and this is 410 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: going to be a phenomenal season. You know. Look, there's 411 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure that comes with it too, not 412 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: for him, but for everyone else to perform at that level. 413 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: To be able to go out there now and turn 414 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: that switch on and think of yourself as one of 415 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: the better teams in the NFL and do that week 416 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 2: the week. You know that for the coaching staff the 417 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: same way Robert solid that this is a team now 418 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: that has to make that huge jump, right. It's not 419 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: just getting to the playoffs, you know. To me, it's 420 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: pushing forward winning a playoff game, getting to that goal 421 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: of potentially winning a Super Bowl. But man, that piece 422 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: that's there now, I can't wait to see it. I mean, 423 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: this might be the most defining moment in Jet's history 424 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: as far as when you talk about the leadership and 425 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: the player at that position, where it's been the last two, three, 426 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: four decades, all the way back to Joe Namath. This 427 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: is pretty incredible. So it's a special time and you 428 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: pray for all those other pieces to be healthy and 429 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: get through the season, and if you had that man 430 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 2: and the pieces that Joe Uggas has continued to put 431 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: on this football team. It's unprecedented where we are in 432 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 2: the organization and the era for the Jets. 433 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: You play in between the white lines at thirty nine 434 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: and Rogers is going to turn forward in December. What 435 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: is he right now? What does he physically bring to 436 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: the field at this point? And you just mentioned it. 437 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: It's not like Rogers is the only piece here. But 438 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: what he Johnson said at the beginning of the offseason, 439 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks been the missing piece. So you find that missing piece. 440 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 1: What does Rogers have to be for the Jets? 441 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: The same guy he's been his entire career. You know, 442 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: the fact that he's there now like currently as we 443 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: speak is great. He gets that, right, he knows the 444 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: importance of it. He's not a guy that's going to 445 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: be sticking around in past years. He's going to train himself. 446 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: He's going to get to where he needs to be 447 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: and prepare himself for the season. So the fact that 448 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: he's he understands that there's not that you know, that 449 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: that sense of self selfishness that Okay, yeah, I'm there, 450 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: I get it, I know the offense, I don't have 451 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: to be He knows he's got to build the report 452 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: with receivers, with the lineman, with all these guys to 453 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: really build something so it works quickly. That that's the goal. 454 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: Week one, you need to come out the gate firing. 455 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: And it's not an easy schedule, man. This is a 456 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: schedule early on that's going to be you know, it's 457 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: going to test the fortitude of this team because you know, 458 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: if you want to get where you want to be 459 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 2: and and you want to get to those goals, you 460 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: got to beat those teams. You got to play those teams, 461 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: and they're going to get that chance this year. So 462 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: you know, he's going to be prepared. I think that's 463 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 2: the number one thing. The fact that he's there leads 464 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: me to believe that he is going to have himself 465 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: ready to go, and then ultimately can he help prepare 466 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: and get everybody else around him ready? Is it his responsibility? No, 467 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: but it's his responsibility to build that camaraderie, to build 468 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: that team, and that's the quarterbacks job. That he knows 469 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 2: that that's what he did in Green Bay for all 470 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: these years, and that's why those players loved playing with him. Lineman, 471 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: running backsight ends, they loved playing with Aaron Rodgers, and 472 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: now he's got to kind of do that over again. 473 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: And I think the best thing about it is he 474 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: did it away in Green Bay that maybe, okay, he 475 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: thought was a good way he kind of tried to 476 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 2: do things. But now he uses those experiences and now 477 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: comes here fresh where nobody really knows, with a couple 478 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: of players that have been around him, obviously, like Lizard 479 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: and Randall, to really build something and do it the 480 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 2: way that he wants it so that everybody's on the 481 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: same page. And I think that starts with play calling. 482 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: The play caller, all that stuff is in line, and 483 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: I just think you play a little harder. Okay, if 484 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: you're a lineman, a tight end. I remember, you know 485 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: when I used to block for Curtis Martin, you know, 486 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame back, You just you didn't want to 487 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: let that man down, right because you saw he played 488 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: through injury. I saw the things that he did on 489 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: a day to day basis, and it just took personal 490 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: responsibility for me to go out there and be great 491 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: for him as best or be as great as I 492 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: could be in that moment. And I think that's what 493 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: the lineman and guys like that will feel a sense 494 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: of I gotta protect this guy. I gotta catch this ball. 495 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: If I'm a tight end, if I'm a running back, 496 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: I gotta get these yards. I gotta pass protect because 497 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: he earns that respect. I saw that in Tampa with 498 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: Tom Brady, same kind of situation. Guys stepped up their game. 499 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 2: It was barely sacked. They protected him and he went 500 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: out there and did his thing at a high level. 501 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: So this is really an interesting time and I just 502 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: think that those are the things that I'm interested to 503 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: see how that grows and develops, and how guys strain 504 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: a little more, not that they weren't in the past, 505 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: not that they weren't playing one hundred percent, but sometimes 506 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 2: in your mind mentally you just push it to the 507 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: next envelope because you want to be great around a 508 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: guy that's as great as Alan Rodgers. 509 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: Do you see the parallels there with Brady. Brady had 510 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: that illustrious twenty year run essentially with New England. Then 511 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: he comes to Tampa that first year. Where the most 512 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: significant difference, I would say, ab the way I look 513 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: at it is you just mentioned it, is that Aaron 514 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: Rodgers to a place where he's already got familiarity with 515 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: the coordinator, like he loves Nathaniel Hackett. Those guys have 516 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: an established relationship. And you said he could be an 517 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: extension of the coaching staff and essentially another coach on 518 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: the field where Brady goes to a very talented Tampa roster, 519 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: but he and Bruce arians had to come together and 520 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: figure out that system over time. 521 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that that's that was big. I mean, he 522 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: talked about that being a foreign language when he came 523 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 2: in there and learning the system. A lot of the 524 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: things are the same, but the terminologies that was challenging 525 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: for him. And ultimately that that was that slow start 526 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: that they had that first year. Now they were able 527 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 2: to pick it up in the back end and it clicked. 528 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: But because you got a guy like Tom Brady that 529 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: can handle that. But it's really it's it's gonna be 530 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: easy for Nathaniel, it's gonna be easy for Aaron obviously 531 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: because they know it. Because of theirs youth in this team, 532 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: really good youth, talented youth that they're gonna have to 533 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: pick up a new system, you know, like and Garrett Wilson. 534 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: You know, there's gonna be some similarities, but terminologies are 535 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: different wordings, different so you have to rego through that process. 536 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: And they picked it up great last year, which was great, 537 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: but now they're gonna have to do it again. And 538 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: I just see those guys excelling. I know, guys like 539 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: Breest Hall, I know what he's about. He's going to 540 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 2: be a better player than he was last year. Garrett Wilson, 541 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: you watch him play multiple quarterbacks, the numbers he put up. 542 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: Now he's got a guy like Aaron Rodgers, Like I 543 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 2: just to me, a sky is the limit on how 544 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: good he can be. There were more proven talented players 545 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: around Brady and Tampa than there are with the Jets, 546 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 2: but don't misconsue that as not as talented, because they 547 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: do have the talent. And then defensively, the pieces were 548 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: there to really hold teams when you got those leads 549 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 2: and really do some good things on the defensive side, 550 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: which is good. The fact you have a defensive coach, 551 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 2: head coach that now, okay, all those efforts, those things 552 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: and we saw from last year how well they played 553 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: throughout the season and improved from the year before. Those 554 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: things are going to you know, be even bigger now 555 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: and helpful in my opinion, because if you get now 556 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: where you become a team that's a little more offensive 557 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: and you put up points. The way the other team 558 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: plays against you is a little bit more riskier if 559 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: you can get those leads. Now it's reversed. So now 560 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: that that's a positive for the defense, and I think 561 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: that can allow them to be even better than they were. 562 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: So the growth in the development of the system of 563 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: everybody learning it outside of the quarterback is going to 564 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: be really something that's important. And that's why Aaron's there 565 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: right now, right, So that's that extra guy, and it's 566 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: it's going to be vitally important for the skill players 567 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: and the running backs and the line to really get 568 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: on this quickly, and they will because that's their job. 569 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: This is how you do it. I mean it can 570 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: it's easily done OTAs all this stuff is there for 571 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: them to get it, so when they hit training camp 572 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: they can hit the ground running. But again, it's nice 573 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: to know that your quarterback and your OCO will be 574 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: on the same page, have a good feel, and those 575 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 2: things will mesh well. And now it's just coordinating. Okay, 576 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: you utilize the talent within the system that Nathaniel Hackett's running, 577 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: so you can maximize the play from the people that 578 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: are on the field. 579 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: So your son Rocoll plays quarterback at Iowa State for 580 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: Matt Campbell. I gotta imagine that you guys had big 581 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: smiles on your faces for a second consecutive draft weekend 582 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: because Brice Hall, after the Jets selection of Will McDonald 583 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: with the fifteenth pick in this year's first round, said 584 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: the New York Cyclones. Because the Jets not only draft 585 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: Hall last year and he was fantastic in his first 586 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: seven games, but they signed Ellen Lazard free agency, a 587 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: former Cyclone, and then they come back in the first 588 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: round with Will McDonald. 589 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: What do you think? Really awesome? Rocco got to throw 590 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: to Allen a couple times when he came back to 591 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: the facility. You know, in the offseason, it's just great man. 592 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: Breese Hall. They still stay in touch. Breese Hall is 593 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: just an incredible player. She's a home run hit man. 594 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: He just, uh, he's big time. I knew he would 595 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: be better in the league. I mean, for whatever was 596 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: a five six games that he played, he was the 597 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: best back in the NFL arguably right yards from scrimmage. 598 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: Everything he did and he was the component for this team. 599 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: Uh. 600 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: When he comes back, he's healthy, that's huge. And then 601 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: Will McDonald obviously got to watch every snap of him 602 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: last year, going to all the games. Extremely talented player, 603 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: elite pass rusher. The dude's got a major chip on 604 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: his shoulder. You know, you guys will document the stories. 605 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: He's come from nothing. Man, This kid is as humble 606 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: as it gets. Works his butt off and I mean 607 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: probably a little bit misused at Iowa State because of 608 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: the defensive structure that they have. 609 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: To help on a tackle last year. 610 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I did love that, but I 611 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: get it that's where they were. He's just not you know, 612 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: that body type. Hurt that right, but he was still effective. 613 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: But again, cranking him outside now, putting them on an 614 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: island with somebody, I just it's gonna be fun to 615 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: watch because for him, I think it's going to add 616 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: a layer of his game that he hasn't been able 617 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: to really show as much, you know, being out there 618 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: every single time now, and you know, he's probably not 619 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: going to be used much in that run stopping game, 620 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: and you know, it's a passing league, so he's going 621 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: to be used in a lot of those scenarios. I think, 622 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: you know, he could easily be a double digit guy 623 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: year one. I just I just see it. And you know, again, 624 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: size is always effective. But we've seen guys come into 625 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: the league, uh you know a little bit underskis longer, 626 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: guys have been able to get it done. He'll get 627 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: stronger and he'll get bigger, but you know, he's always 628 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: been a guy that can play. He's got an incredible 629 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,959 Speaker 2: motor number one, so you know, against the run, chasing 630 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: things down across the field, backside, outside, he's got all that. 631 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: Now you know he can do that, and he's got 632 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: a verage of pass moves that you know with his flexibility, 633 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: dip spin, it's a little bit of a different level. 634 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: You know, you're not you don't see that every day 635 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: in practice. And you know Carl last on the X 636 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: high motor guy, right like, he goes as hard as 637 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: you can possibly go. But the things that will can do, 638 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: you know with his body because he's not as big, 639 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: the flextion, the dipping, the spin, the balance of staying 640 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: on your feet, all those different things, that's a game 641 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: changer now when you look at it. So really excited 642 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: to see him, but yeah, I always state ties are 643 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: great man. I love it. You know, and it's the 644 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: reason why my son picked the school. I mean, you know, 645 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: Matt Campbell has developed players, developed men, high character, elite players. 646 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: You look at every year, they're getting guys drafted at 647 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: the highest level. Xavier Hutchinson got drafted this year. Receiver 648 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: is going to be phenomenal in Houston. I think he 649 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: got drafted later than he should have. I think he's 650 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: going to be a really good player. He'll be a 651 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: starter for them at the receiver position. So they're putting 652 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: players out and I had several of them on my 653 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: team because I just know the fabric that they come from, right, 654 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: so I just know that I can count a lot 655 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: of the intangible things that I need I don't have 656 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: to develop. They're gonna have that, and they're gonna be 657 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: able to just by attrition pass that on right to 658 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: the other guys that I had on my team, like 659 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: Mike Rose the linebacker and and Keem Butler. These guys 660 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: are going to be playing in the league next year. 661 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: I know they're gonna sign. They're going to do those 662 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: things because those are the kind of guys that the 663 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: league wants. But they still have talent. So it's great 664 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: to see you know, who knows. We'll see what the 665 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: future lies with the Cyclone players moving forward. But I 666 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: think it's awesome. Man, these are good players. These guys 667 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: get it and they come in a little bit beyond 668 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: their years, which I think helps them succeed. We saw 669 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: that last year with Breese and and hopefully we see 670 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: that this year with Will. 671 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so ab says Will McDonald, would not be a 672 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: surprise for him to come out of the gate with 673 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: double digit sacks. You know that Jets are gonna put 674 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: him in fortuitous positions as far as the concerned. 675 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, another thing too, like let's go like put him 676 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: out there, like we need him to be involved like 677 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: a sap and and and just put them into the 678 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: into the into the fire. You know, I remember John 679 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 2: Abraham getting drafted. You know, he was more of a 680 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: situational guy early in his career. But hey, let's go like, 681 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: let's play him. Let's get this guy to learn and 682 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: understand the tempo, the play of what it takes to 683 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: be a premier pass rusher going against the very best 684 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: tackles in the league every single week, and let him 685 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: get those reps. And even if you're sacrificing on taking 686 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: a chance in some of those second down circumstances where 687 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: it may be a run or pass, and you take 688 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: those chances. He's still he can still play the run. 689 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: It's just that he's got to be creative on how 690 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: he attacks and gets to that back and he's got 691 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: those weapons in his toolbox. So I want to see 692 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: him on the field often as much as possible, and 693 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: let's go because this team is in dire need for 694 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: a guy that can do it at his level, and 695 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: he needs those reps, constant reps every single day and 696 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: every single week on Sundays. 697 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: What do you think about the arms race? What is 698 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: which is the AFC East? The Bills have won the 699 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: last three division championships. You got Miami who made the 700 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: playoffs last season AB and they were there toe to 701 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: toe with the Bills in the postseason with Skyler Thompson 702 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: playing quarterback. They add Jalen Ramsey in the offseason and 703 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio is their new defensive coordinator. Buffalo's made some 704 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: changes to the roster, most notably I guess you would 705 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: say adding Dalton Kincaid out of Utah. So maybe they're 706 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: gonna see more two tight end sets for the Bills 707 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: in Josh Allen. The Jets will host will host the 708 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills twenty two years after nine to eleven. Of course, 709 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: in September eleventh there at METLFE Stadium to open the season. 710 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: You talk about the gaunt with the Jets are gonna 711 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: have those first six games, and then New England is 712 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: always tough as well. They bring Bill O'Brien back to 713 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: beat the offensive coordinator, so you figure there would be 714 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: better offensively, but we might be looking at a division 715 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: where New England's looking up at everybody. 716 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, incredibly incredibly tough division. Everybody is continuing to amp up, 717 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: and you know you'd like to see, obviously the Jets 718 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 2: where they finally get those pieces in place where everybody's 719 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: kind of trickling trying to find a way, But this 720 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: is this is how it is, man. Every team is 721 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 2: trying to get to that pinnacle every single year. So 722 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: this division is going to be outstanding. I think the 723 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: Jets should feel good about how they played against these 724 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: teams in the division last year, and now the pieces 725 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: that you have coming back that you've added in the 726 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: offseason clearly is going to take you to a level 727 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 2: that you feel really good about defensively. Obviously for the 728 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: Jets that that's a huge point because they played well 729 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 2: pretty much against everyone in the division throughout the years, 730 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: so it was really getting that spark offensively. How many 731 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: games did we watch Eric where we just if we 732 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: just had a score here, we just had to drive here, 733 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: Like those things are so vitally important because of the 734 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: way the defense played. All those pieces are back, So 735 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 2: I think that's just going to be a huge difference 736 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: on the field. Yeah, when you look at our schedule, 737 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: I think we looked at the schedule last year. You know, 738 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: there was a guy out there, a former NFL guy, 739 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: Brady Quinn that talked about eight or nine through them 740 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: because he looked at that schedule and thought it was devastating. Well, yeah, 741 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: we look at the schedule this year and we say, okay, yeah, 742 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 2: from last year, the way they play this is tough. 743 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 2: But we don't know how things are going to shake out. 744 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 2: You never know how those things unfold, and and you know, 745 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: sometimes it's it's the teams that are playing the Jets 746 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: are in their mind, what are they thinking, Like, man, 747 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: we got to deal with them. They're they're pesky. They 748 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: were pesky last year and they didn't have a great offense, 749 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: and now they got Aaron Rodgers and now things change, right, 750 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 2: So now it's it's a different mindset on how teams 751 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: think about you, which is vitally important in this process 752 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 2: as well. So Joe Douglas his staff continues to load up, 753 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: continue to get young players establish themselves. And now you're 754 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 2: a problem even though your division stronger, maybe the best 755 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: division of football, and your schedule looks demanding. But you 756 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: got to look at on the flip side, teams don't 757 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: want to play you either. You need to take advantage 758 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: of those situations. And I just look at it that way. 759 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: I look at the schedule, I see I can see eleven, twelve, 760 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: ten to twelve. I can see those things happening for 761 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 2: this team. But one week at a time, man, they 762 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 2: got to figure it out. Come out guns of blazing 763 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 2: to start the season and get to the playoffs early. 764 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 2: Like come out so you have a swagger and a 765 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 2: confidence about yourself where you're believing week two, three, four, 766 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 2: so that when you're making that push and you get 767 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 2: to that back end, there'll be some ups and downs. 768 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: Guys finding the same page to speed the tempo, they 769 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 2: can they still have enough to win those games and 770 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: get through it and then bam on the back end 771 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: of the season, which we know, we'll blink our eyes 772 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 2: and we'll be there. Then now you see the team 773 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: that Okay, this is the team we drafted, these are 774 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 2: the players we brought in. This is where we want 775 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 2: to be, and now we're going to make that push 776 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: in year, in that vital year. Now. So that's what 777 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: I see for the for the twenty twenty three season. 778 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's end here as a guy who played with 779 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: the last division winner two thousand and two, Jets win 780 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: the division at nine to seven. You play to win 781 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: the games. What do you think about the environment that 782 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: is going to be at MetLife this season as far 783 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: as Aaron Rodgers come to town. You saw the Jets 784 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: take those steps from four and thirteen where they embraced 785 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: the youth movement. They nearly double that win total last year, 786 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: go to seven and ten. That was a playoff team, 787 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: had not you endured so many injuries and gotten some 788 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: consistent play from the quarterback position. But I mean they 789 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: finished with a six game losing streak. 790 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 2: Ga B. 791 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: You were seven to four, as we know very well. 792 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: But now you add Rogers to the equation, what do 793 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: you think it's going to be like as a guy 794 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: who played in front of these fans and they're so 795 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: hungry for a winning winner, so starving for a winner, 796 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: what do you think the environment's going to be like 797 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: at home this year? 798 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: Is this where I make my Saint Louis BattleHawks fans 799 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: pitch to the Jets fans as well to get them 800 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: listen that look, if you're a Jet fan, okay, and 801 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: you've been upset, you've been waiting like you talk about, 802 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 2: or you've been a diehard that's been there every single 803 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 2: week for the last decade, two decades, show up this year. 804 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: I just to me, it's just such a game changer. 805 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: You look at some of these teams, Kansas City, Seattle, 806 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 2: when they're at home, it is a different animal, different perspective. 807 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: Players have to deal with another piece of trying to 808 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: win a game. You know, you look at those stadiums 809 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 2: filled and listen. Jet fans have been incredible. When I 810 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 2: go to the games, I love seeing them. They're tailgating. 811 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: There's so many passionate fans. But we got to get 812 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 2: more coming back. We got to get more in those seats. 813 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: We got to get more folks showing up early. Too 814 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: early on is the best. The weather's great, right, so 815 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 2: that to me is a huge factor in it. But 816 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: I just feel like, man, players really feed off that. 817 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: Players know that that can help them. It hurts opposing 818 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: teams off, especially in those crucial downs. Man, we see 819 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 2: it so many times every single week. If that place 820 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 2: is rocking and rolling, every one of them seats is 821 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 2: filled throughout, and you got these players, they will feed 822 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 2: off that, man, and it could be a special season. 823 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 2: You don't want to miss that, you know if I'm 824 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: talking from a fans perspective, because this could be a 825 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: special year and there's always going to be those we'll 826 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: wait and see. I'll wait till they win or But 827 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: to me, why, I mean, like, if you're a true 828 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 2: Jet fan and your schedule's open, let's go, like, show up, 829 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 2: be there. This organization is now doing everything they can 830 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 2: to give you the players to put a product on 831 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 2: the field. You can be proud of the fact that 832 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 2: they went out and got Aaron Rodgers and made that happen. 833 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: Speaks volumes about where Woody Johnson is, Joe Douglass and 834 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: this team is trying to be right. They're not trying 835 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: to just compete in the division. They're trying to win 836 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: a championship. It's like a legit real thing for this 837 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 2: team now on what they have. Don't miss these year, 838 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 2: two year, three year run that they're going to have 839 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: where it can be really special. So I can't wait 840 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 2: to see the crowd Week one. I can't wait till it. 841 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: What it looks like, it's going to be awesome and 842 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: it's going to be a special season. So yes, show up, 843 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: I mean the fans are it's going to be awesome. Man. 844 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see that crowd and really how 845 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 2: that's going to be an advantage for this team this year. 846 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, think about those first four games the Bills nine 847 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: to eleven. Then you come back Week three, the Patriots, 848 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: a long time nemesis. They got a fourteen game win 849 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: streak over the Jets in the regular season. I've been 850 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: on Rockers saying the streak ends there. I don't want 851 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: to get too far ahead of myself, ab But then 852 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: Week four it's Aaron Rodgers Patrick Mahomes head to head 853 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: for the first time in their careers. And then after 854 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: a Week five day to Denver, the Jets come home 855 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: and play the second Super Bowl participant from last year, 856 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, So it is going to be a 857 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: fun slate throughout. The Jets are must see TV. The 858 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: NFL knows that. That's why they put them on five 859 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 1: times in primetime in the Black Friday Game as well. 860 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: We are so happy about the success you had so 861 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: far have had so far in the XFL. The head 862 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: coach of the Saint Louis BattleHawks, that's Anthony Beck. But 863 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: he also hopefully is coming back for some analysis in 864 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three of the New York Jets as well, because, 865 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: like you just mentioned, hey man, we must see a 866 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: must watch and we got to have your analysis next. 867 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 2: Season, no doubt. You know you mentioned the schedule. I 868 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 2: love the schedule makers for the primetime action because that 869 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 2: gives me some more wiggle room to get from Ames, 870 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 2: Iowa to where I need to be in Florham Park 871 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 2: in the stadium. So yeah, it's it's gonna be great. 872 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: I can't wait. It's gonna be fun. It'll start off 873 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: for me in the preseason calling two of the preseason 874 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 2: games and we'll see what the what the year looks 875 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 2: like but looking forward to working with you again Thanks 876 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: brother Yod,