1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's DJ Envy just hilarious, Charlamagne 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: the gud we are the Breakfast Club. You got a 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: special guest in the building, Yes, indeed got May and 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: Ross Barako. 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: Welcome. How you I'm good. I'm good. Little tired, but 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm good. 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: You ain't can't get tired now, I know that long 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: way to go. 10 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: How are you man, I'm good man. Yeah, yeah, I 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: had a rough couple of weeks, but I'm all right. 12 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: You can't elaborate on that, just like the specific circumstances 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: that led to the arrest that the. 14 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Lady or yeah, you know, we've been going down there 15 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: every day. In fact, my folks are down there now, 16 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: uh to uh do the inspections, uniform cold construction. Uh 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 1: you know you have to get a certificated occupancy all 18 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: these other things. But they came in and just was like, 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna do what we want to do. 20 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: Our folks went down there. They wouldn't let him in. 21 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: I was surprised, so I have them go with y'all. 22 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: I want see what's going on. 23 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: So they basically they wouldn't let y'all in it to 24 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: do the inspections. 25 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. So they basically was like, no, go, this is 26 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: a private company. This is not the government. I it's nobody, 27 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: just these guys. And so we took them to court 28 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: and we're in the process of being in court and 29 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: they just start putting detainees in the building while we 30 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: were in court, like just total disrespect. So we go 31 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: down every morning to serve them, like give them a citation, 32 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: because we just wanted to show a pattern that they 33 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: have been disregarding the local law. When we get in court, 34 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: the Congress people went down there to do a walk 35 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: through and they called me and was like, Yo, we 36 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: having a press conference. We want you to be at 37 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: the press conference. I said cool. So I came down 38 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: to the press conference. It was protesters outside and they 39 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: out there every day by the way, saying let the 40 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: mayor in. I SI, they were saying when I was 41 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: at the gate, so the guy lets me in the guard. 42 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: He was like, come on this side of the gate, 43 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: So I did. I stood there about an hour and 44 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: a half and then the Specialation in charge of Homeland 45 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Security came, but ICE was already there. They didn't say 46 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: anything to me. I was there for like an hour. 47 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: They just looked at me, looking at them. He came 48 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: approached me, started talking crazy, reckless. The congress people got 49 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: in it. He said, you know he's gonna arrest me. 50 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: Then the congress room was like no. I said, you 51 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: know what, I'm leaving. Don't worry about it. He said, yeah, 52 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: get out. So I left. I left and went on 53 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: the other side of the fence. He got a phone call. 54 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: They made a decision to leave the inside and come 55 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: on the outside and arrest me on the city side, 56 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: you know. And that's basically what happened. They took me 57 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: to a real lock up somewhere in some place I 58 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: didn't even know existed in North by the way Wow, 59 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: in a cell, took pictures, fingerprints, charged me with federal trespass, 60 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: went to hearing all the whole thing. You know, finger 61 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: printed me again. I heard that. 62 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: I heard you was subjected to like the second round 63 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: of fingerprinting. 64 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 65 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: Why how do you interpret that? 66 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: I have no idea. Man, there was like one agency 67 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: has it not the other agency. I was like, can't 68 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: y'all get it from them? Like it's technology. I mean, 69 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: they did this in the middle of the court, like 70 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: we were leaving, the Marshalls came into the courtroom to 71 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: escort me out. My lawyers started, you know, going back 72 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: and forth with them, and I just said, you know what, 73 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: forget it, just take me wherever y'all got to, wherever 74 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: y'all going, I'm going, let's go, and I left. 75 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: They took you to a place you didn't even know 76 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: exist the first time. 77 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Wow, like some it's non descript factory looking place. 78 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: Took me down in the basement is a Britain's like 79 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: real cells in there. Yeah, it's great. 80 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: You didn't know it was there. 81 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: No, not at all. No, it's a homeland security spot 82 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: that they have there. Did you see other people? I 83 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: didn't see anybody. Had me, you know, off somewhere, you know, 84 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: so I didn't know what was going on. 85 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: Criticism of Trump. You think any of your criticism of 86 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: Trump called them to act like that. 87 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Well, I just believed that they wanted to get the 88 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: mayor of the city to you know there on this 89 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna arrest judges, mayors whoether's like they're in charge. 90 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: You just want to show that we have power and 91 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: authority and you're not going to defire us and we're 92 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: gonna get whoever it is, you can get it to 93 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: type of thing, right, So I think that's what it was. 94 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: And when they realized I was there, somebody sent them 95 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: there to get me, you know. So if that's basically 96 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: what happened, I don't even think it is directly about me. 97 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: I think it's about them and them trying to prove 98 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: to everybody that they're untouchable, and they basically do what 99 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: they want to do. When they realized it was me, 100 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: they sent a special agent in charge of the Homeland 101 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: Security investigation of that region to come and get me. 102 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: That's like the police director going downtown and the rest 103 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: of somebody for shoplifting, you know. So yeah, he comes 104 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: by itself and does that. 105 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: So legality, right, So this is a private building, right 106 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: that law enforcement should be able to come in and 107 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: see what's going on. So how do they have the 108 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: right to stop y'all from going in? So shouldn't in 109 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: any other Like if I have a private building and 110 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: I say y'all can't come in, y'all gonna kick the 111 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: door then for sure, But this case, y'all can't. 112 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like the fire inspectors and the health inspectors 113 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: have more rights than police officers, like police officers need 114 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: like a warrant to do specific things. The health inspector 115 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: and fire inspector can come in any building for safety, 116 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: health and humor resources or whatever it is. They can 117 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: come into the building and say, look, this building is 118 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: not safe, it's not fit, so forth and so on, 119 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: and they won't let them in. And that's why I 120 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: was totally shocked, like this can't be real. I need 121 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: to go see this myself, and it was right. They 122 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: just wouldn't let it. They wouldn't let anybody in. 123 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: So what's inside this building? Has anybody seen what they're 124 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: doing in this building? Nobody knows. 125 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean, CBS was a granted entry and they gave 126 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: them like a limited tour. And they keep saying it's 127 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: like these criminals in their murderers, rapists, you know, the 128 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: Republican talking point. But everybody knows who's in there. You 129 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, who they are, where they 130 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: come from. We don't know anything. And you know the 131 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: building was used as a halfway house and drug rehab 132 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. To change the use of the building. 133 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: Now you're going to change it to a place with detainees. 134 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: You have to get that. You checked right, it has 135 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: to be. You have to get a certificate, arguments, you 136 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: have to apply for that, You have to get inspections. 137 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: You may have to go to the planning board, zoning board, 138 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: it depends, but you have to start that process. That's 139 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: anybody has to do that special. It's not like putting 140 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: undue circumstances on these people. This is what everybody goes through. 141 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: That's all you say that you feel like these measures 142 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 3: were an attempt to humiliate and degrade. 143 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: You absolutely once you know, you know, they they cuffed me, 144 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: threw me in a car. You know the security that 145 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: well the police did was pretty decent, but you know, 146 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: taking me through that process, they put me in a cell, 147 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, the whole fingerprinting, the interrogation piece. You know, 148 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: then't doing it again. I just don't think it's necessary. 149 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the US attorney came to my hearing. It's 150 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: a classic misdemeanor. Four hundred dollars fine, wow, you know, 151 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: maximum thirty days in jail. She's she's at the hearing, 152 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: the US attorney. I'm like, what what's happening here? 153 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: You know, this is they're trying to give you a 154 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: maximum obviously thirty days in prison in the fall Aliphant. 155 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is probably what they're going after, 156 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: but they don't have no I don't think they have 157 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: a case at all. I mean, first of all, it's 158 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: not federal property, so federal trust. But it's not even 159 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: one federal employee that worked. Like all they do is 160 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: all they They don't have a lease. They have a 161 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: contract for them to house a few of their prisoners. 162 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: That's it. It's not there's not nothing to do with 163 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: the federal government at all. This is a private property 164 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: with a private owner from Florida called the Geo Group, 165 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: which owns hundreds of prisons, by the way, that has 166 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the federal government. If anything. If 167 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: it was trespassing, uh, they would have to call the 168 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: local police, right and if they thought it was a 169 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: conflict of interest, they should have called the state police. 170 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: But they didn't call anybody, by the way, because they 171 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: let me in the property. Wow. Yeah, the people who 172 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: called were those ice agents and everybody else who called 173 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: their bosses and boss came down there and did what 174 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: he did, and you got orders to do that. 175 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: Have you got any like like messages like behind the 176 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: scenes on some like all right, don't step out of 177 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: line again, it can get worse or something, you know 178 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: what I mean, Yeah. 179 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Pretty much. But I mean, you know, we were in 180 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: the processes, in the process of trying to figure out 181 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: the charge in that, you know, and these people are 182 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: you know they serious now they committed today foolishness, you 183 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean. They're threatening to arrest the congresswoman 184 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: who was there, and multiple congress women. You know, they're 185 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: threatened to take us through this all the way to 186 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: the end. But you know, at the end of the day, like, 187 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: we didn't do anything wrong. So I mean, if they 188 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: want to waste their taxpayers money, the government's money, to 189 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: go through this, then let's go through it. We think 190 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: we are correct, and I don't think they have any 191 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: ground and stand on. 192 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: What do you say to people who say they don't 193 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: care about fighting for the rights of immigrants, they're. 194 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: Just misinformed and because we've allowed other people to kind 195 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: of dictate or control the narrative. Honestly, what we're fighting 196 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: for is the due process for the fourteenth Amendment, the 197 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: fourth and fifth Amendment, to be secure in your person, 198 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: your papers, your property, people can't do anything till you 199 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: pull you over, throw you in jail, without due process, 200 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: without you going to court, without them having a warrant, 201 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: all these specific things. And I think more than anybody, 202 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: Black people should be concerned about that, because we're the 203 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: number one victims of being searched without probable cause, or 204 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: people coming to our property, our persons disregarding our constitutional 205 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: rights for the for our first the Bill of Rights, 206 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: the disregard for that, we should be the first ones 207 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: concerned about it. And so we should stand up for 208 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: people who's getting getting there is violated because we next. 209 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: And I see that you also run for governor as well. 210 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 4: Do you feel like this is a part of the 211 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 4: plan to mess that up too? 212 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think it's the part of the 213 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: plan to mess everything up, you know. So I think 214 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: they what they meant for evil though always turns to good. 215 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, these people are they're not thinking about what 216 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: they're doing. They're just reacting. Right. The person in charge 217 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: of homeland security, well, the second in charge gets on 218 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: TV start saying we stormed the place. It was a 219 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: bust of migrants going in there. You know, we slammed 220 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: ice agents like all this was fabrication. Now they just 221 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: put themselves in a bad situation because now you're saying 222 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: things that are not true because we have the videos. 223 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: So I just start dropping the videos so people could 224 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: see that I walked in there with my hands in 225 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: my pocket, you know, very calm, you know, because the 226 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: guy opened the gate and let us in. There was 227 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: no kicking, no shoving, no pushing. I mean, they're used 228 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: to lying and controlling the narrative, but this is the 229 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: time they made a very grave mistake. 230 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: Do you think that this will impact your bid for 231 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: governor in any way? 232 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, people who don't like 233 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: what happened, don't like what happened anyway, they don't like 234 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: they wouldn't vote for me anyway. So I don't think 235 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose any votes based on what we did. 236 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: I think what it does do, though, it tells people 237 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: that we're willing to go all the way, that you know, 238 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: we're not just talking about defending people's rights, that we're 239 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: going to challenge these people at every turn. 240 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: I do wonder what message do you think your arrest 241 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: sense to other elected officials who might oppose the these 242 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: federal polities who just opposed the Trump administration period. 243 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: Well, I think these guys need to ratchet it up 244 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: a little bit, need to figure out what we're gonna 245 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: do in a collective way. These kind of individual things 246 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: that are happening. It's not really enough. We need like 247 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: collective energy here, a cooperative plan of action to push 248 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: back against what's happening. Not all these separate states doing 249 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: these suits. We should do a collective one. The irony 250 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: is when I was going to court, the state of 251 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: New Jersey was going to court with Donald Trump that 252 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: same day, our ag filed the suit against this his 253 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: sign of executive order undermining the fourteenth Amendment of birthright citizenship. 254 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: On that day he was in court. But it should 255 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: have been Donald Trump versus New Jersey, against balt against Maryland, 256 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: against you know, California against Maine. It should have been 257 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: like fifteen different states together. And I think we need 258 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: collective action. This individual stuff is not working. 259 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard, you know, may and Adam say this, 260 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: and I've heard a lot of other people say this 261 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: to me, like there's an attack on black mayors. Do 262 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: you think so? 263 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: Well? I think I think black mayors having a little 264 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: bit more difficult than everybody else, obviously, just like black 265 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: people do. Obviously people expect more from you. You're going 266 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: to be scrutinized more. They think you have a magic 267 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: wand and because you're black, you're gonna make all of 268 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: the black people problems disappear in five seconds. Obviously that's 269 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: not going to happen. But I mean, ultimately, I think 270 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: we have a harder road to tow, a heavier, a 271 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: bolder to move. But you know, it is what it is. 272 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: This is what you signed up for. You know, we 273 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: knew this when we got into it, like this was 274 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: what it was going to be. 275 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 3: How did it feel for you when you just saw 276 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: you know, the city and knew it like really come 277 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: to your defense, like they was outside, like people was 278 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: pulling that not even just knew people was pulling up 279 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: from all over the tried state, you know the ride 280 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: for you? How did you feel when you came out 281 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: and saw that? 282 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: It made me feel good. Irony is when I was 283 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: in there, you know, the the guy locked me up 284 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: after the judge said you could go, took an extra 285 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: thirty forty minutes to let me out because he was 286 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: trying to devise a plan to get me outside because 287 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: there were so many people out there. He was like, Oh, 288 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: we got to get these people from in front of 289 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: the building. I said, you know how you get them out, 290 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: Get me out, Let me out, They'll go. I wish 291 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: it was that easy, I said, is it actually is 292 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: that easy? So as I walk out of here, they're 293 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: gonna walk away and lo and behold. I walked out, 294 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,239 Speaker 1: We walked down the street, talked to them, and everybody dispersed. 295 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean, people are not interested in doing nothing extra crazy, 296 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, they just want justice. And that's simply what 297 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: it is. 298 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: Now you're running for governor, what's the first thing you 299 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: want to do when you become governor? Like, what's the 300 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: first thing on your mind? The first thing you want 301 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: to do first day, second day, third day? 302 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: With well, I mean number one, I think we need 303 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: to fix this budget. Our budget is, you know, is 304 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: out of whack because we have given so many tax 305 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: breaks to these multinationals and we need to bring that 306 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: money back and fix our tax code. But ultimately, we 307 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: need to be building affordable housing across the state of 308 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: New Jersey. We need to be building ten twenty thousand 309 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: units of affordable housing in the first two years one, 310 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: it'll reduce people's costs, reduce rents, mortgage. So I would 311 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: put a rent control on all rent across the state 312 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: of New Jersey for the first couple of years until 313 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: we get the first units of housing built in a state. 314 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: That needs to happen to begin stabilizing our economy and 315 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: it to make people believe we mean business right put 316 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: thousands of people to work. So dealing with this affordable 317 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: housing crisis is like number one on my list. 318 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: That there's a lot of people in this race for governor. Now, 319 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: how do you step above all those people? Because right 320 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: now looking at polls, and polls mean a lot of 321 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: nothing a lot of times. But how do you make 322 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: sure you're ahead of those polls to make sure people 323 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: come out and support you, that you're really taking this serious? 324 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean the polls are fluctuating every week, 325 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: they change here and there, which means that it's like 326 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: a fourth quarter game. It's going to be whoever gets 327 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: there put people out to the polls to vote, and 328 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: whoever wants it better than more than anybody else is 329 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: the person I think that's gonna get over the line. 330 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: But ultimately I think people could see my record, and 331 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: we've been putting that out there, the things that we've 332 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: done in the city of Newark, and we believe that 333 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: if you could do it in Newark, you could basically 334 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: do it anywhere. Our problem if the state has a cold, 335 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: Newark has the flu. Right, so our problems are a 336 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: lot more intractable and difficult, and our ability to mitigate 337 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: those issues makes us uniquely qualified to deal with the 338 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: issues around the state. I saw something. 339 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: It was an Emerson College poll and it said that 340 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: fifty six percent of voters were undecided about who they 341 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: wanted to vote for in the Democratic primary. 342 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's that big Immocon Yeah, Emmerson. 343 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: They did a text poll. Those text polls are incredibly unreliable. 344 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: They're texting people, and you know they texting a small 345 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: portion of people, but there is a huge undecided number, 346 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: but it's not fifty six percent. And you always have 347 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: to understand and I know, we know when they poll 348 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: in people, it's not really us because we're not answering 349 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: the phone. So we have to be a little weary 350 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: of those poles, little literary of them, and really just 351 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: get on the ground and keep working. I mean, the 352 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: poll said that Kamala Harris was going to win right. 353 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: The poll says she was gonna win New Jersey by 354 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: double digits, and she only won by five percentage points. 355 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: Newark Airport, Man, what the hell is going on? Man Baraka? Like, 356 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: what is the problem with Newing Airport? How did they 357 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: get here to way? People are saying it's unsafe to 358 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: fly out the new A Airport. 359 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: They don't flatter airport. I don't think it's unsafe. I 360 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: don't think it's unsafe because they keep delaying in canceling flights. 361 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: If they weren't doing that, then it would be unsafe. 362 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: The reality is it's too many planes in the airspace 363 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: air traffic controllers is not enough. Our air traffic controllers 364 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: walked off because of stress. They don't want to when 365 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: they losing contact with airplanes. They don't want to be 366 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: the one responsible for ninety people one hundred and fifty 367 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: people going down, so they walking away. The radar system 368 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: in that area doesn't work. The infrastructure has broke. So 369 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: but the Trump administration came in, got rid of four 370 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: hundred people, blamed DEI and now they realize it's a 371 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: real problem and none of that is gonna help it. 372 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: So now they're trying to put money in infrastructure and 373 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: hire more air traffic controllers. But they need to do 374 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: that like rapidly, like an emergency, and in the meantime, 375 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: we just need to slow those flights down. We need 376 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: to do the same kind of patterns that happened out 377 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: of LaGuardia. See LaGuardia is in the same airspace but 378 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: not having this problem. They're not having this problem because 379 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: they have less flights and they have more time between flights, right, 380 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: the flights coming in and the flight's going as more 381 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: space between those, nor to just we just fly places, 382 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: flying in and out, in and out, in and out. 383 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: We acting like there is no problem, right, but there 384 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: is a problem. And so as we act like there's 385 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: no problem, they're canceling flights and delaying flights and ultimately 386 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: this need to not have those flights until they get 387 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: this in order. 388 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: So you said people are they were walking off whye 389 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: because they. 390 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Just were stretched out? Yeah? They what were stretched out about? Like, 391 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: I mean, to not have contact with an airplane for 392 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: thirty seconds, for sixty seconds, for ninety seconds is a lot. 393 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're an air traffic controller, and you 394 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: can't control what's going on, and somebody crashes and dies 395 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: on your watch. I mean, obviously that's going to cause 396 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: a bit of stress. Absolutely, folks walked off and Newark 397 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: unfortunately add insult the entry there you fixing one of 398 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: the runways at the same time. So that should be 399 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: done prayerfully by the end of June. But we need 400 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: more air traffic controllers and we need the infrastructure fixed immediately. 401 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: We need emergency spending, emergency funding to get that stuff 402 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: done like yesterday. 403 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 3: But nobody knew that about the infrastructure beforehand. 404 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: Of course they did. They knew. They knew that the 405 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: infrastructure was old. They also knew that we didn't have 406 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: enough air traffic controllers, not just newer but period, right, 407 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: and that's why we were having incidents. Then when the 408 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: Trump administration first came in, you've seen all these airline 409 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: issues that were going on, which signaled that there was 410 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: a problem, and instead of dealing with the problem, they 411 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: began blaming DEI and continue to lay people off instead 412 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: of hiring people fixing the infrastructure so we won't have 413 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: this emergency situation where we are now. So they finally 414 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: they've understood that this is a real problem. So now 415 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: they're trying to address it, but it's not happening fast enough. 416 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I would say, they need to 417 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: stop some of these planes from going off the ground. Yeah, 418 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna be inconvenienced because you can't get as many 419 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: flights as you could have got before. But safety is 420 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: more important than anything else, I will say. 421 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: Now, I wanted to ask about the congresswoman that is 422 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: also going against you in this race. They said that 423 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: she has supported a lot of the things that Donald 424 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: Trump has has put to the table, and you've been 425 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: very vocal about that. What are your thoughts to some 426 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: of the things that she's trying to follow up with 427 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: and that she's campaigning for. 428 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, you know, everybody in the primary now is progressive, right, 429 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: but all of the progressive leaning organizations endorsed my candidacy, 430 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: all of the progressive unions, all of the progressive organizations 431 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: for People's Organization in Progress thirty too, be Jay working 432 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: families because I'm a real progressive. I'm not just playing 433 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: one on TV. The reality is, here's a woman who 434 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: supported the border wall, right, who you know, supported four 435 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: billion dollars to go towards Trump's borderwall. Right, A person 436 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: that voted against immigrants while she was the congress person. Right, 437 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: who is opposed to Immigrant Trust Act in New Jersey 438 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: that says that we have to not ask people their status, 439 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: that our police can't cooperate with ice, that we have 440 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: to make sure immigrants get the same services as any 441 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: other people or residents of the state of New Jersey. 442 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: She voted she is opposed to that, and voted against 443 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: things when she was the governor. I mean, excuse me, 444 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: when she was the congress person. So the reality is, 445 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: I don't think that she's progressive at all. 446 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: Now, you went to her hometown of Montclair to make 447 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: that statement, to make sure that the residents of Montclair 448 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: know who they're voting for. 449 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: What was that important to you? Well, I went there 450 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: to really talk about the fact that they have a 451 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: plan for everything but black people, right, that the reality is, 452 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: they come up with all of these strategies and plans 453 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: that they're so thoughtful about, but none of it involves us. 454 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: But they keep coming in our community asking us for things, 455 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: but they have no plan to help us. When we 456 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: were on a panel, they asked her about the wealth 457 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: gap as she started talking about third gradest reading level, 458 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: and so I got upset, Right, I said something on 459 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: a panel and I said something in Montclair. I said, 460 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, reading levels. We need to make sure that 461 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: our kids can read on grade level. But don't get 462 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: confused that the wealth gap has nothing to do with reading. 463 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, income and wealth are two 464 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: different things. Income you could say that, you know, if 465 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: you have a better education, you can get a better 466 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: job and your income could be better. But wealth, you 467 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: could be dumb as a doornail and have wealth. Your 468 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: parents can pass down businesses and real estate and all 469 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: the thing to you, and you can mess it up, 470 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: but you still have wealth. Right. You know, Donald Trump 471 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: has wealth not because he's brilliant, but because his family 472 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: had wealth. I mean, this country has denied us wealth 473 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: since we came here, like slaves, helped to develop wealth 474 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: for other people who've passed their wealth down. And because 475 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: she don't understand that, and she talks about it like 476 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: in a tone deaf way, it kind of undermines our 477 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: ability to destroy a wealth gap that's actually doubling in 478 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: a state of New Jersey right now, that went from 479 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars to six hundre one thousand dollars 480 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: because of the lack of home ownership and business development 481 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: in our state. And she and if you're going to 482 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: be the governor, you should know that, right. 483 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: So's she's actually supposed to be coming up here, I 484 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: think this weekend next week. What's one question that you 485 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: would think is the most important question that she should answer. 486 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: That what's her plan for black and brown people? But 487 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: more importantly black women. Right, Black women are the most 488 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: committed and dedicated constituent that the Democratic Party has, and 489 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: they're treated the worst in New Jersey or in this country. 490 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean, she's endorsed by the mainstream Democratic Party, but 491 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: they have no plan for black people. They never did. 492 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: They have no plan for Latinos, they never did. And 493 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: they have no plan for working people. I mean, the 494 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: Democratic Party is in charge of the state, and working 495 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: people are struggling the most. We can't pay our bills, 496 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: Our childcare is too high, right, insurance is too high. 497 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: In fact, if you got the wrong credit score, you 498 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: might not get no insurance. Right. Your rent is too high, 499 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: your more is just too high. And we still give 500 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: a tax breaks to billionaires in New Jersey and can't 501 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: take care of working people, and you're supposed to be 502 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 1: the party of working families, right, she should have an 503 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: answer for those things. 504 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 3: Is running for governor hard when you still got a 505 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 3: governed as mayor. And the reason I brought that up 506 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 3: is because everybody were not everybody, but they were people 507 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: saying that this was a publicity stunt when you got arrested, 508 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 3: Like you're just trying to drum up, you know, attention 509 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: for your campaign for governor. 510 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: What you say, I got a lot of ways to 511 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: drum up attention. Corner jail ain't one of them, you know. 512 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: But but ultimately, like, look, I just came from the 513 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: gym that day. You know, I was going to get 514 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: a shake to go back to the office. My policy 515 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: advisor reminded me that they were having a press conference. 516 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: I went down there for that press conference to support 517 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: my congress people, right. I didn't expect that they would 518 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: do that. And honestly, you know, when they started threatening, 519 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: I thought they was bluffing. Like when I left the property, 520 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: if I wanted to get arrested, I would have stayed 521 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: on the property or I actually left right in twenty 522 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: years go, I would have took flight, you know where 523 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: they said they coming to wrest you. I would have 524 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: been ENCE's cars everything. You know. The reality the matter 525 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: is nowhere for me to go. Like, if they're gonna 526 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: wrest you wherever I'm gonna go, they're gonna come. Like, so, 527 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it, just do it now. And 528 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: that's really what my sentiment was, like, I don't believe 529 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: you got it in you that this is not gonna happen. 530 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: This can't happen. What a congressman told me, they come 531 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: and to rest you, I said, why, what did I do? 532 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything. That's exactly what my response was, 533 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: What did I do? I was like, oh, come arrest me. 534 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: I was saying, I didn't do anything, But how would you? 535 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: How are you gonna arrest me? I'm not even on 536 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: your property anymore? And they came out and did it anyway? 537 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: Did that confirm to you what type of political climate 538 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: were in? 539 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely, absolutely, very very dangerous. The fact they're still 540 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: going through this, that my lawyers are still going back 541 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: and forth with these people, it's still it tells you 542 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: clearly that they're committed to this stuff. And the question 543 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: becomes how committed are we and I don't believe we 544 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: are as committed as we need to be to turn 545 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: this thing over. 546 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: At any point, were you like afraid for your life 547 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: the fact that you were taken to an off site factory. 548 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely. I mean, I mean, I guess when you 549 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm a grown man now with families, So when you 550 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: get arrested, all kinds of things going through your head. 551 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: Who picked my children up from school? Like I got 552 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: to beat you? All kinds of stuff I leave my 553 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: house going through But all kind of stuff is going 554 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: through your head, like you know, really fast and uh, 555 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: and they're taking you somewhere you don't know, like you 556 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: can hear them talking. Yeah, they followed me. They came 557 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: one of the details got in a separate car and 558 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: drove behind them and got and went to where I 559 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: was going. But ultimately, like you don't know where they 560 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: take me. If I'm not going to the county jail. 561 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: Am I going to Berging County? That's this county? What's 562 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: going on? And where they're gonna put me out when 563 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: I get in the county jail. I mean, that's the 564 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: things I was thinking about right the when I got 565 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: to the place I'm like, what is this place? I mean, 566 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? Do anybody know I'm here right? 567 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: And all of those things are going through your head. 568 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, fear gets in your in your 569 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: heart and you just pray that you know, fear don't 570 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: turn you into a coward. 571 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 2: There you go. Well, we appreciate you for joining us, 572 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: and I'm sure you know you'll be back up here 573 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: before the race actually happens. 574 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: When what date is that tenth? 575 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: That's right, well, ladies and gentlemen, Mayor Ross Baraka, it's 576 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. 577 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning. Come 578 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.