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Speaker 2: you already do some banter, I am, do.

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Speaker 3: You have any talk to me? Do you have any

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Speaker 3: talk to me? Do you have any banter? Banter? Banter, banter, banter?

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Speaker 3: Do you have any banter?

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Speaker 4: Talk to me?

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Speaker 2: Do you have any banter? Banter? All right, Karen, banter away.

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Speaker 5: I am kind of proud of myself. Uh.

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say I'm non tech, because I do

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Speaker 6: know somewhat of some tech stuff, and I feel like

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Speaker 6: I don't know that much. But sometimes I meet people

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Speaker 6: and I'm just like, oh you you know even less

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Speaker 6: than me. I'm looking like what you in the bad condition.

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Speaker 6: So I am very proud of myself. It's not non techy,

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Speaker 6: but I guess it is techy.

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Speaker 5: If you don't know. Uh, for cars, whenever.

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Speaker 6: They have like the ability to call through your phone,

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Speaker 6: you can get it to mimic your phone where it

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Speaker 6: picks up like if you have Apple or if you

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Speaker 6: your interface where your interface can go across like your

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Speaker 6: we was having issues getting it, so I was like,

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Speaker 6: you know what, there has to be a way around us,

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Speaker 6: because you know, it's a way around everything.

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Speaker 5: And periodically I think.

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Speaker 6: About what you what you you said something that really

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Speaker 6: stuck stuck with me. You was like, there's nothing that

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Speaker 6: and searching, and I ran across this reddit that was

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Speaker 6: like the model we have doesn't like it has the

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Speaker 5: So I was like, well, how do you do it?

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Speaker 6: Then they started suggesting things, and they have this thing

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Speaker 6: called a dongle. And what a dongle does. It takes

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Speaker 6: the Android version, or like the Apple version. It literally

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Speaker 6: mimics whatever you have in Most dongles actually are both

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Speaker 6: was like, I wonder if it's gonna work. So I

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Speaker 6: it to Roger and I was like, I was like,

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Speaker 6: I was like, which one strings the best, connects the best? Actually,

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Speaker 5: Which one can you do like.

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Speaker 6: The street stuff like ways and all that stuff. And

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Speaker 6: it doesn't drag and drop like I really was watching

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Speaker 6: so I found one and I gave it to watch

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Speaker 6: you getting works. I'm very proud of myself because that

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Speaker 5: I haven't used it yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nah, I appreciate it. I put it on and

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Speaker 6: So I tried to make sure I got one it

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Speaker 2: Okay for me, I'm I've been this kind of a

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Speaker 2: not really a joke or whatever, but I've been thinking

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Speaker 2: about how much people use social media to be outraged,

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Speaker 2: like anger in general, not that we should lie about

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Speaker 2: our anger or hide it or push it down. But

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Speaker 2: I don't like people or myself to move out of

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Speaker 3: I agree, and I think.

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Speaker 2: If you're telling the truth, if you're righteous, you should

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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, And so.

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Speaker 2: There was this thing that's been happening for the last

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Speaker 3: And it's the sports race war. Now.

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Speaker 2: We've of course talked about the Caitlyn Clark sports race

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Speaker 2: war at nauseum, and I think, you know, I feel

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Speaker 2: it all kind of came to fruition exactly as I

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Speaker 2: but you was right about that. You don't get that

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Speaker 2: passed it. Yeah, and so this one was a similar

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Speaker 2: thing for me. Dion Sanders and his sons and Colorado football.

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Speaker 5: The talking point all fucking weekend.

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Speaker 2: So for those that don't know, the NFL Draft was

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Speaker 2: He was in all these mock drafts projected to be

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Speaker 2: race war that this thing set off was insane, and

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Speaker 2: I it reminded me of Caitlin Clark in that there

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Speaker 2: trolls who I don't know, but hopping on social media

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Speaker 2: and they just say the most inflammatory things. So of

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Speaker 2: course they were just hating on this kid, hating on,

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Speaker 2: knowing that black people will get mad about it. And

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Speaker 2: black people of course were getting mad about it. We're

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Speaker 2: then of course you have you know, everything that's going

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Speaker 2: this stuff and the blackness of it all comes in

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Speaker 2: at Deon Sanders's black head coach of Colorado, black form

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Speaker 2: an NFL player, MLB player, son is of course black

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Speaker 2: because kids are black. But Deon Sanders is very well liked,

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Speaker 3: He's a personality, that's the thing.

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Speaker 5: Personality.

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Speaker 2: Yes, polarizing at times, I'd say polarizing most of his life,

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Speaker 2: Like there's been times he said and done stuff that

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Speaker 2: Not really a political guy, not very outspoken about anything really,

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Speaker 2: I think those indicators key to Black people because we're

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Speaker 2: even if that person is not necessarily supporting us back.

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Speaker 3: In those ways.

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Speaker 2: Right, that being said, I've always liked and appreciated the

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Speaker 2: idea of Deon Sanders flamboyant athlete, but I did not

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Speaker 2: our institutions. I just didn't go down that rabbit hole

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Speaker 2: because I know we've known too much about Dion publicly

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Speaker 2: for so long, and he's mostly about himself. Right, you

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Speaker 2: can knock that if you want to, you can. You

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Speaker 2: can praise that if you want to. But I know

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Speaker 2: when I see a person that's just hyper brand focused

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Speaker 2: about them Reality TV show Dion, you know, Neon Dion,

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Speaker 2: like and and that's fine, Like I I don't expect

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Speaker 2: more of him, so it doesn't bother me. I can't

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Speaker 2: really be hurt or or you know, proud. It's just

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Speaker 2: And I think this is what happens a lot of

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Speaker 3: So anyway, Shador doesn't get drafted.

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Speaker 2: I think what happened and Bomoni talked about it on

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Speaker 2: But the fact that people try to turn it into like, well,

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Speaker 2: Kanye West, as a you know, there's these people out

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Speaker 2: So shitdor doesn't get drafted to the fifth round, and

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Speaker 2: some people don't like that shit, especially in black people.

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Speaker 3: But the whole time I was looking at this shit like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. He could be good, he could not

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Speaker 2: Motherfuckers will put up big numbers and then you just

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Speaker 2: he was throwing to, or you know, oh, now that

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Speaker 2: we actually have to evaluate their talent and how we

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Speaker 2: I honestly, I don't know, and I don't know how

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you have people that are like high draft picks

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Speaker 6: And you have somebody that's further down in the draft

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Speaker 6: than one of the picks that aren't that aren't like

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Speaker 3: You don't know.

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Speaker 2: I thought Bryce Young was sorry until halfway through last season.

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Speaker 2: I guess sometimes it don't work, and then they change

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Speaker 2: dude had to like persevere. He Baker Mayfield came in, arrogant, cocky, struggled,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how anyone feels confident about football predictions period.

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Speaker 2: I think it's really an exercise in our own arrogance.

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Speaker 2: And of course his content experts have to make what

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Speaker 5: Yes, everything, it's a big ass TV show.

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Speaker 3: The Draft specifically is a TV show.

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Speaker 2: And what makes a compelling TV show is you find

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Speaker 2: some storylines and the drama, and you get the drama.

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Speaker 2: And so the storyline for this year was Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I watched so much sports, like just in the background,

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Speaker 5: You know what? You would like?

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Speaker 6: You would you would have too, because it went it's

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Speaker 6: he was literally no matter what sports show you talked about,

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Speaker 5: This dude is hilarious.

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Speaker 6: He made a video and they was doing like the Pope, uh,

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Speaker 6: he came up Shadul Sanders, and then they was like

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Speaker 6: dn D and everybody sat down. They was like yeah,

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Speaker 6: be Shedell Sanders, and it was. But that's literally just

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Speaker 6: how much like if you didn't know anything, it wasn't

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Speaker 5: Was like most people would be like, I guess he

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Speaker 6: One of the top picks because, like Roger say, they

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Speaker 6: To I, he got taught more than the number one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, cam Ward was the number one draft pick who

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Speaker 3: He was the number one pick.

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Speaker 2: So that's another reason that I'm not doing this whole

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Speaker 3: Right, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think what happened is your Dori Sanders was racism.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say it like that now. You can

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Speaker 2: never completely erase racism from America. So it's racist in

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Speaker 2: the fact that like all the same racism that all

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Speaker 2: the other players are facing, he's facing but it was

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Speaker 2: him a lesson, right especially, And I don't think he

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Speaker 2: got black balled. I don't think it's like Kaepernick. Kaepernick

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Speaker 2: stood for something. I actually think and like this, this

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00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: what's been bothering me this whole time, is like then

438
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 2: did people even really respect what Kaepernick was doing or

439
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: did they just want to throw his name up there

440
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 2: to be like black man. And I'm mad at the NFL,

441
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 2: cause like Kaepernick stood for something, like when he he

442
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: took that knee, he articulated exactly why. Door is just

443
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: a kid, and he's a very confident kid. I don't

444
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: begrudge him for that. I hope he goes on to

445
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: be a great player too, But like he wasn't like

446
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 2: saying anything that would make the NFL not pick.

447
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 3: Him, you know.

448
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: And because he's a young kid, I'm very cautious of

449
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: the fact that at some point you're gonna do some

450
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 2: shit that is not the pro black agenda.

451
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: And these motherfuckers are going to flip on him.

452
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: Yes they are, because that's not his doctrine or his play.

453
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't talk about these things. He's not he's

454
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: not the guy the league is afraid to put in

455
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 2: front of a camera because he's gonna be too racially aware.

456
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 3: He's gonna say the thing that the white men that

457
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 3: run the league don't want it.

458
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: Like I don't think that's what happened, and that's fine,

459
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 2: But I think so many puts someone And I did

460
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: say this about Dion when it last year, so many

461
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how many black men look up to

462
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 2: him as.

463
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: Like a like a aspirational figure.

464
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: And I think my whole life, I've just kind of

465
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 2: looked at him as a singular figure, like, yes, he

466
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 2: is Dion Sanders. You can't make him stand for anything

467
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 2: other than Dion. Like I've never watched him and thought

468
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: man standing for the black man. I was just like, yeah,

469
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: he's just he's about himself and he's about his money

470
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: and all that shit. You know, made a song about

471
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: it anyway, all this stuff to say, looking at how

472
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: angry people got and how to me, like I said,

473
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: the logic didn't make it wasn't adding up, like to say, oh,

474
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: it's about racism, Is.

475
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 3: It about racism? When cam Ward's going.

476
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: First, like we're way past the point of we're being racist.

477
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 3: Against black quarterbacks to our detriment.

478
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: And the reason I'm only saying that is because money

479
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: won out, not because I think these white men that

480
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: run the league aren't racist. But unless that black quarterback

481
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: is up there talking about black lives matter every day,

482
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: they don't give a fuck. They're just like, we want

483
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: the money, and we want to do it on our team.

484
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: That's it. You know, Even when.

485
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: They were I would call colluding, although allegedly colluding, I

486
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: want to get sued against Lamar Jackson a couple of

487
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: years ago when he was about to be a free agent.

488
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: Even when that happened, I was like, that's about trying

489
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: to get the money. Like to them, they're like, what

490
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: we can't have is any of these quarterbacks going out

491
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: and using us against each other to get a whole

492
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 2: lot more money than we would have gave them. And

493
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: because he was the best quarterback in the league, a

494
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: record breaking the amount of money that they thought would

495
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: have broke the system. Now that being said, who knows

496
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: what would have happened if he was I don't know,

497
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: you know, because I think they've overpaid quarterbacks.

498
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: We've seen that happen all the time. Yes, we had

499
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 3: Kirk cousins one.

500
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 5: Right, paying them all that money fucking suck.

501
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we see them overpaid, but they wasn't trying

502
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: to break the salary cap whatever. But anyway, I didn't

503
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: care about so much about that. But my point being

504
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: like I never really got behind this whole Dion is

505
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: representing black people thing. And I think that's why I

506
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 2: was able to like sit back this week and just

507
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: kind of be like, Damn, people are addicted to being mad,

508
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: because like it's one thing to be mad when you're right,

509
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: it's another to be trying to like fit the logic

510
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: into something because you're so angry, you're just moving the

511
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: goal posting your own argument to be like, and this

512
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: is you know, see, they want to humble.

513
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: They tired of these black men not being humble.

514
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: I'm like, have y'all seen Travis Hunter. That's not a

515
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: humble motherfucker. Motherfucker said. I am playing both positions in

516
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: the NFL defense and offense.

517
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: And if they don't make if a team picks me

518
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: and I don't get to I will quit football. You

519
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: don't get.

520
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: More confident that this is not what this shit is about.

521
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: They just don't think Shador Sanders is going to be

522
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: that good. Now, they could be wrong. I hope they're wrong.

523
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 2: I'm never rooting against any of these players, to be

524
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: honest to me, if they thought he was Travis Hunter

525
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: level skill set, he would have been there. And a

526
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: big thing that's been happening behind the scenes is that

527
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: Deon Sanders was his son's agent. And I don't know

528
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: if he was Travis's agent too, but he was definitely

529
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: a son's agent. He had two of them in there,

530
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: Shalloh and Shadoor. Anyway, the point is he was even

531
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: treating this process very flippidtly for his own kid, like, well,

532
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: it's only a handful of teams I'm gonna allow him

533
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: to go to and if they, you know, like if

534
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: he don't want then he ain't playing.

535
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: If he don't if you draft him.

536
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: And we told some teams no, and it was like, oh,

537
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: you're talking about him like he is a the number

538
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: one pick, because that's the kind of shit that was

539
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: with the number one pick. Rarely, but it does happen.

540
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: Eli Manning was one of these guys a long time ago.

541
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: He was the number one pick and his dad took

542
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: over the process. I don't think anyone thought he was

543
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: the number one level pick and unfortunately for him when

544
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: it came down to what people want to deal with

545
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: and shit, I think when people say it's about his father,

546
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: I'm like, it could be about his father as his agent,

547
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 2: Like I don't think it's about his father because like them,

548
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: white men loved Dion. Dion walks the line like yeah,

549
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: like that's why. That's why I like the reframing of this,

550
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: like he's some racial radical that they're the League is

551
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: afraid of.

552
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: They fucking loved Deon SAMs.

553
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: He helped, he made them so much money, and he

554
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: doesn't He don't say shit that that would fuck the

555
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: league up. Ever, Like he's like you ain't ever see

556
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: him come out and say something that made us go, goddamn, man,

557
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: I can't believe he called them out like that. That's

558
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: not his that's not his role, that's no one's expecting that.

559
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: So anyway, I know that's a long thing that wasn't

560
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: really funny, but it was. It just made me think,

561
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: like the addiction to anger is crazy, and when you

562
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: step out of it, like the way I was able

563
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: to step away from the like Caitlyn Clark thing and

564
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: just like watch it from a thousand feet away without

565
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: participating in it. Same thing I've done with Dion and

566
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: his whole like coaching arc. I've been able to watch

567
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: it from a thousand feet away without participating in it.

568
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 2: Because the reason I'm talking like this is because I

569
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: don't be on the internet going back and forth for

570
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: racist people people. But if you did, but if I did,

571
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm not above that. If racist people were in my

572
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: mentions every time I brought up Dion or Colorado, I'm

573
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: sure if I was of the mindset to read that

574
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: shit and reply, it would start making me feel like, no,

575
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: this is Martin Luther, King of football, and y'all not

576
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: gonna talk about my black leader, Deon Sanders and his son.

577
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 5: You know.

578
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: But that that hasn't happened for me, you know. Similar

579
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: with Lebron. I haven't felt like this thing with him

580
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: and stephen A has turned into a like man to see,

581
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: this is what they do to black fathers like I

582
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: don't like. It doesn't even have to get to that.

583
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: To me. I think stephen A don't like Lebron. That's

584
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: that's all it needs to be for me. The world

585
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: doesn't need to try to take him down because he's black, Sony,

586
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: these niggas are jealous because he's Lebron you know who

587
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: happens to be a black man. So anyway, all that

588
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: to say, like, uh, this weekend was crazy watching that

589
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: shit go down the timeline and people turning on each

590
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: other and getting mad at each other because or whatever.

591
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: But I think really between therapy reading conflict is not abused,

592
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: and just like stepping back from a lot of the

593
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: like online discourse, especially having the podcast, I just remember

594
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: how much I used to feel everything I used to

595
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: feel I was. I was so easily moved by other

596
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: people's anger and other people's conflict, and now it's like

597
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: like it's like I'm on a train in a different

598
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: car and I'm looking at it in their car and

599
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: they all fighting and I'm just like, yeah, not for me.

600
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: And it's not that I never get angry. It's just like,

601
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: when I get angry, I own it because it's mine.

602
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent off of me. Yes, it's not

603
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: because y'ally was mad or because so and so was

604
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: saying something. It's not it's because I genuinely feel that way.

605
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: But uh, the last thing I'll say for our move

606
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: on is the other part that really gets my eyebrows

607
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: up about this kind of stuff. I don't like black

608
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: people that do the I'm gonna use the racial part

609
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: of this when it's convenient for me, but I don't

610
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: really speak up or stand for black people. And so

611
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: then we end up supporting these people and when they

612
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: do pull a Kanye later and we go, man, they

613
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: portrayed the community, I'm like.

614
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 5: Did they did?

615
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: They? Did?

616
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: They?

617
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: Though?

618
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: Like at least with Kanye he spoke about black shit,

619
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: Like at least you got four or five years of

620
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: his career where he was talking about black issues and race.

621
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: I don't like, I don't know that Dion did that.

622
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: Not in no way that would make me want to

623
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, man, I gotta stand up. I gotta

624
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: stand ten toes down for this dude.

625
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 6: Right.

626
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: It just feel like.

627
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: Whenever it's time for these people to move on, they

628
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: just move on, you know, And stephen a'le say a

629
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: couple of good things about race, and then people are

630
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: ready to bring them back, and then it's like, nah,

631
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: that's it's about stephen A.

632
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: It's not about us, you know, it's US is different.

633
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 6: US is US is different than when US is when

634
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 6: people speak about us, they're consistent about it. But like

635
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 6: you say, the thing is in a lot of celebrities

636
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 6: and a lot of people have done this all of

637
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 6: a sudden, they're very quiet on race and racism and

638
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 6: blackness and all that stuff. But you let them get

639
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 6: in trouble or you let something happen to them all

640
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: of a sudden, they're black and they're coming towards us.

641
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 6: And I understand that you brought this up. We are

642
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 6: such a figiving people to a fault because at some

643
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 6: period of time we got to realize that everybody that

644
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 6: speaks about black and blackness is not for the group

645
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 6: nor to call well.

646
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: Some of these don't even speak for black people in blackness.

647
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 5: Right at all.

648
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: Like that's what's crazy to me. And like.

649
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: Just without putting anybody's information out there, there are there

650
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: was a lot of scuttle but about how the like

651
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: draft process was handled through Dion Sanders for his kids.

652
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: You know, one of his kids actually went and got

653
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: an agent after the draft was like got Drew Rosen house,

654
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: which says a lot.

655
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: The fact that you were able to get Drew Rosa house.

656
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: That's part of being deon Sander's kid, because he wasn't

657
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: even the one that people thought was gonna get drafted,

658
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: like so so like to be able to get Drew

659
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: Rosa House was a big name for a big name agent,

660
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: means like you got connections. But people were like, well,

661
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: they picked people before him that might that weren't even

662
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: as good as him. I'm like, one, that's what we think.

663
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: All of them gonna have a chance to prove it.

664
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: In the NFL.

665
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: We'll see, maybe they will be good better than him,

666
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: maybe they won't. But two, if you fucked off the

667
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: draft process, if you fucked off the interviews, if your

668
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: father was talking about he might not want to go

669
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 2: to your team, it'll be up to me that teams.

670
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: Teams are going to And it's not even about feelings.

671
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about probability team. I'm not talking about

672
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: people getting offended. Like that's the thing. Everyone made it

673
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: into something personal. A team might it's all risk assessment.

674
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: They're just like, you know what, we don't want the

675
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: guy who, in our minds we thought would have been

676
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: the third best quarterback on our roster when they came in.

677
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: We don't want him having.

678
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: The ego of you know, the chosen one, like we

679
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: don't want to have to deal with his dad being

680
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: his agent and being in the media shitting on us.

681
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: You know, it's not like LeVar Ball was his son's agent, right,

682
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: Like there's a level to it where I can see

683
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: how a team arrives at that conclusion without it being

684
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: like we hate this black this black person because they black.

685
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: No, it's a lot of other variable And.

686
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 6: Like somebody say, it's a job interview, and so people

687
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 6: are interviewing you for a job, and it's like, you're

688
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 6: not making you making this. The things that you do

689
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 6: will reflect on if you get the job and where

690
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 6: you place at that job.

691
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: And they're making people have to come out and leak

692
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: the shit. I think this This is different to me

693
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: than the character assassination that happens whenever they decide to

694
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: like destroy somebody, because we've seen that before, like because

695
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: a lot of times and the reason that that happens

696
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: a lot of time with these teams, they actually do

697
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: it so they can get the player. That's what's fucked up.

698
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: They'll be like, I want to lower this guy's value.

699
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, the elite comes out and

700
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: it's like Daz Brian was terrible in his propregm in

701
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: his interviews, and it's also somebody can go, well, you

702
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: just drop them a couple more spots, we might get

703
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: them on our team, and then das Brian still ends

704
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: up going as a high pick because everybody's like emmitst talent.

705
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 2: We're not scared off by that ship at all. They

706
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: drafted people number one that literally were involved in in

707
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: vehicular homicide. They've drafted people number one that have been

708
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: like criminals. So this isn't about like if they thought

709
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: he was talented enough, they wouldn't give a fuck about

710
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: any of this shit.

711
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: Yep.

712
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: They just don't think he's good enough to justify the

713
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: attitude or the lack of preparation.

714
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 5: Risk assessment.

715
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 3: There's all risk assessment shit.

716
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: So it's kind of wild that people were able to

717
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: be manipulated into just like race war, and.

718
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 5: It's so that simple. It's always easy.

719
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: It's so easy, it's scaring.

720
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 6: Gender Wars is the most simplest ship to get people

721
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 6: to argue.

722
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: It's scary to me.

723
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 2: I think a lot of the loyalty that Shannon Sharp

724
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 2: engendered over the last couple of years is only because

725
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: Skip baylessing him got into those arguments, and when Skip

726
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: disrespected him as a black man, you know, with to

727
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: put your glasses back on, it felt very racial for us,

728
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: and so people then turned him into like a racial hero,

729
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: but he never was.

730
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: He don't talk about us or for us like that.

731
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 5: No, he talks about him.

732
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: He talks about Shannon Sharp and the things he wants

733
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: to do. When he was able to turn the other

734
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: cheek for Skip and act like it was no big deal,

735
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: people was like mad at him, and I'm like, but

736
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: that makes sense. He's about his money. That was a

737
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: great teav segment. He's not gonna crash out on the

738
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: air everybody. He's gonna choke Skip. He gonna do No,

739
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: He's not. That dude is one of the most singular

740
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: focused men on his brand and his money I've ever seen.

741
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: When it comes to just like I'm gonna get to

742
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: the bag, and so he got to the bag. But

743
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: then it means it because people fall for this like

744
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: he's our racial hero. Shit, when when all the other

745
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: cracks start coming out, the blatant misogyny that that he

746
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: revels in, yes, and you just excuse it. The messiness

747
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 2: of his Shannon Sharp Club shay Shape podcast that it

748
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: just started so much riff raft and if he was

749
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: if that was a woman, people the same people that

750
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: go up for him would be hating him. They would

751
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: be like, I don't understand how he gets away with

752
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: doing terrible interviews. They hate DJ Blad, but they love

753
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: Shannon Shark.

754
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like just weird shit like

755
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: that that I've picked up on.

756
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: Over the years, And I went, no, Shata Shark, not

757
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: not joining in on this, not my hero entertaining entertaining.

758
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm far from a hater, you know,

759
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: Steven A. Smith entertaining like this isn't about shitting on

760
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 2: these people.

761
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 5: It's just they do their jobs every well.

762
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: You have to accept them for who they are and

763
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: what they are, and these are who these people are.

764
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 3: And so.

765
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people end up looking silly

766
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: in the long run because you look up and it's like,

767
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: why are you holding on the Shannon Shark? What is

768
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 2: he giving you to hold on to? Miles and yack

769
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: like racial stereotypes that he did on on the airwaves

770
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: and then turn around and told black women to be

771
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: nice to Caitlyn Clark and this white woman gonna get

772
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 2: y'all some money.

773
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: So y'all need to shut up, Like, who the fuck?

774
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: Why are we? Why are we applauding him? What? What

775
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: does he really staying for? Why is that my? My?

776
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: The bashing of blackness? You know. So it's stuff like that.

777
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: I've just really been seeing through the last few years,

778
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 2: and I just wanted to use this time to bring

779
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: that up.

780
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 6: No problem, anyone, Oh sorry, it's no problem. I got

781
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 6: one more excuse me, and it's just a short one.

782
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 6: When we got this box that I have, and i've

783
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 6: I've had it for years where I keep all like

784
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 6: the important documentations and you know the ship did they

785
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 6: tell you supposed to keep you in your birth certificate

786
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 6: and so secure and all this type of stuff. Well,

787
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 6: today I went through it and I started cleaning it.

788
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 6: Lord High Mercy, I can't speak bad about my mama

789
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 6: no more. I turned into ABU. I'm that old ass

790
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 6: lady because when I went through that ship, it was

791
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 6: shipped from from jobs. I don't have no more assurances.

792
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 6: I don't have no more TVs. We don't throw away.

793
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 5: I had paperwork on cars we don't drive no more.

794
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 6: THEMP shits was like twenty and twenty nine, I mean

795
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 6: two thousand and nine, two thousand and three, two thousand, Like,

796
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 6: what the fuck am I was like, oh, because I'm

797
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 6: because and I think it was a paranoid thing in

798
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 6: my mind. I was like, if these bitches ever come

799
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 6: back and tell me something, I want to have it

800
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 6: in paperwork, like like and I done got better now

801
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 6: because I'm like, okay, let's move on to uh, you

802
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 6: know reality as far as you know paperless. But back then,

803
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 6: I was like, if that computer glitch or something happening,

804
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 6: y'all come looking at me, I'm gonna put out the paperwork,

805
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna fucking out with your computer. Say here's

806
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 6: the paperwork, bitch. So and that's what my mind was

807
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 6: at that period of time. So I went through in

808
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 6: a lot of that stuff, which I actually do not

809
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 6: need anymore, don't even apply no more, we don't pay

810
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 6: the loans on.

811
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 5: I got rid of all that shit.

812
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, nah, that was Yeah, we did have some old

813
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: stuff in there. It was just like, wow, what is it.

814
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: I don't even remember this car?

815
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 5: Did we have that Toyota?

816
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 3: I don't remember? Yeah, and I did.

817
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: I do want to bring up one more thing about

818
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: the sdor saying this thing because I just know someone's

819
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: gonna email in about it. And once again, I'm not

820
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: trying to piss anybody off. I'm just trying to be

821
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: as clear minded and honest as I can be, so

822
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,479
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not joining in the phrase specifically because

823
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 2: of that. I'm you noticed I didn't call nobody stupid

824
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: or dummies or whatever, because I think it's important to

825
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: say these things without malice.

826
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: Or anger intent.

827
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: People will pick up on ship if they and the

828
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: projected onto me, but I'm not.

829
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: I'm not doing any of that stuff.

830
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: I'm not calling anybody race baters or stupid or any

831
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 2: of that shit.

832
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: I just I just think we.

833
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: Are all hurting and people are finding the cold in

834
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: commiserating and being like, at least we got the co

835
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 2: at least were together, and I'm like, I don't want

836
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: to be miserable though. So one there was a prank

837
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: played on Shador during the draft, and it happened to

838
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 2: a couple of other kids too, but people someone got

839
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: his phone number and pretended to be like a team

840
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: that was drafting him, and they got caught on tape

841
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: and everything, because you know, he was live streaming it

842
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: or whatever, and it was very hurtful, very fucked up.

843
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: He was already going through a slide in most people's mind, right,

844
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 2: it was. It was one of the most it was.

845
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: It was a very fucked up thing to do. And

846
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: they found out it was the kid of the defensive

847
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: coordinator of like the Falcons or something. And the kid

848
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: apologized through a statement, and the team said they're gonna

849
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: do like reach out to the family. And you know,

850
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: people were like, there's no discipline gonna happen to the coach,

851
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: Like why why aren't they doing something to the coach,

852
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: And once again, you're just angry.

853
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: What's to be done to that coach? Coach didn't do it,

854
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: Like the coach got a fucked up kid. That's what

855
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: it is. That kid is fucked up.

856
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 2: One of the statements was like he's a good kid,

857
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: or someone put out a statement column a good kid,

858
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's not a good kid.

859
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: First all, he's twenty one.

860
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 5: Now if you do some bullshit like that, first.

861
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: Of all, he's twenty one, right, Number one, Number two, No,

862
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: that's not good. There's not a good way to spend it.

863
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: It's not harmless. The kid put the video on social media,

864
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: so he wanted people to know it was him because

865
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: content over everything, right like that, And so people want

866
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: to like, I don't even know what they want done

867
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: to the coach.

868
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: It's like they want them fired or something. But that's

869
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 3: not it.

870
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: But more than likely the kid violated his father's privacy

871
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 2: and shit to get that number, yes, because.

872
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 5: He ain't had no business with that number in the

873
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 5: first place.

874
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: Steven A.

875
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: Smith was on TV talking about the kid need to

876
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: be beat up and ship by his dad and stuff.

877
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm just like, this is crazy, and I'm sure for

878
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: Stephen a Is it's because him and Dion text and

879
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: their friends, and so he got to go on TV

880
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: and stand up for him in a way he would

881
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: never stand up for I don't know Colin Coppernick, who

882
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: actually was speaking up and black balled, and then you

883
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: went on TV and excouriated him instead.

884
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: Of the league for that ship.

885
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just a lot of like weird allies

886
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 2: and bad fellows on this joint. But all right, that's

887
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: that was got a little deep and we actually don't

888
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: have that much time, so I'm.

889
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: Gonna move into some other stuff.

890
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: Rock and roll Hall of Fame inductions uh were announced.

891
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: Okay, got new crop this year.

892
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: M apparently got some new entrance for this year.

893
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: Uh.

894
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: And they're gonna also be doing like a tribute to

895
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: artists during the during it. So the newest entrance announced

896
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: during the live broadcast are Bad Company Chubby Checker. I

897
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: would have thought he was in already it, right, the

898
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: twist was I thought, But maybe he didn't need a

899
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: motor One hit. I don't know, but he had a

900
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: lot of twists. Yeah, more twist to m Night Shyamalan,

901
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: It's yes, it did. Joe Cocker, Cindy Lapper.

902
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 5: I'd have thought she would have been in it.

903
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: Out Cast, Wow, that's big, out cast with a K

904
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: because the South got something to say.

905
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: Let's go on sound Garden and the White Stripes.

906
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: I like that list the people that didn't make the

907
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: cut this year with the Black Crows, Billye Idol Manna

908
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: and Fish. Fish didn't make it. Wow, right, all first

909
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: time nominees.

910
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: M hm hm hmm. All right.

911
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: I'm surprised Fish didn't make it. I'mnna be honest, but

912
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: maybe that's just because I worked with a dude that

913
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: was a fishhead or whatever.

914
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: They called themselves huge.

915
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

916
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 6: I don't know everybody on that list, but there are

917
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 6: some people. I was like, you, she'd have been on

918
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 6: the list.

919
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: And it seems like Mariah carrying Oasis didn't make it,

920
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: and Enjoy Division and New World Order didn't make it

921
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: this year. I'm surprised Mariah didn't make it this har

922
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: second year two that she was eligible and didn't make it.

923
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

924
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the veteran jam band Fish won the fan

925
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: vote with almost three hundred and thirty thousand, about fifty

926
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: thousand more than the next highest Bad Company. But contrary

927
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 2: to proper belief, winning the fan VOULT does not guarantee induction,

928
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: so they didn't get in.

929
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 3: Because of that.

930
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: They're also going to be recognizing Salt and Pepper and

931
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: Warren Zevon or Zevon will be recognized.

932
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: With the Musical Influence Award. What does that even mean?

933
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: I think it's like a celebration of like their impact

934
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: on the game. So it's like, oh, Salt and Pepper,

935
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: you know, these iconic women rappers that spawned so many

936
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: other people, But they're not an They're not getting inducted.

937
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if that means they're already in or what.

938
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 3: I don't know how that works, Okay, I'm just asking.

939
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: I don't know either, but I thought that's cool that

940
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: they getting in.

941
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really happy for out Came.

942
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: I mean they're getting a tribute same and yeah man

943
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: our cast Wow wow. Yeah.

944
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 6: As somebody who basically was around their whole span, you know,

945
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 6: that means something to me and uh for me as

946
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 6: somebody from the South, you know, eighty.

947
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 5: Five right up the road.

948
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 6: And it was one of those things I remember when

949
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 6: they went out a word, it was like the South

950
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 6: got something. The South was like, yeah, you know, like

951
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 6: it means something from somebody coming from the South, particularly

952
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 6: at that time, because everybody act like hip hop is

953
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 6: was New York centric, which I understand, but they act

954
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 6: like nobody else was impacted by hip hop and if

955
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 6: it wasn't quote unquote New York hip hop, it wasn't

956
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 6: real hip hop.

957
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 5: And that's not the same.

958
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 6: We all maybe wrap at different catuses and just like

959
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 6: they wrapped about subways and things that they wrapped about

960
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 6: cars and shit, because that's what we do down here.

961
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: And also, what I thought was cool about them was

962
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: they was so impactful on the game that eventually like

963
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: all the other coasts, and people started biting off the South,

964
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: Like I still remember when like you would hear like

965
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: Jada kiss on a crunk song and shit, and I'm like,

966
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: that's the influence and I'm not against that kind of shit.

967
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 3: I actually like when we blend together.

968
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people get very territorial and

969
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: stand offish, but I like, I love to see the

970
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: combination of people coming together out of mutual respect, not

971
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: just stealing the shit and trying to like do it,

972
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: but like being like, yo, what would Jada kiss sound

973
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: like on a on a Little John song?

974
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: I want to hear that, right.

975
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 6: And also, you know, because I love rap, I love

976
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 6: the coast, East coast.

977
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 5: West Coast, how we all kind of influence each other.

978
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 6: And honestly, because we all influence each other, eventually we

979
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 6: start the genre starts evolving, the genre starts changing. You

980
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 6: have more blending, you know, because as somebody who you know,

981
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 6: I don't really know a lot of West Coast rappers,

982
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 6: but the ones that I do know, I like a lot,

983
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, And it's one of those

984
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 6: things where they got introduced to me, you know, through

985
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 6: everybody just kind of being the big, big ass mixing pot.

986
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I brought up ray Kwan. Don't skill it

987
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: on the barbie. That was it. Man.

988
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: I still remember that ship where I was like, wait

989
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: is that ray Kwan?

990
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 5: Like what challenges?

991
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: Back it up? I was like, who nah, that's not

992
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 3: that is ray Kwan? Like that was? That was good?

993
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 3: Those good times.

994
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 2: That was back when I buy the CD and just

995
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: throw it in my fucking my my player in my

996
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: car without even looking at the tracks because I'll just

997
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: get it straight from the store and put it in

998
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: and then just I would be surprised at the features

999
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: because I hadn't had a chance to look it over

1000
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, ray Kwan is on here.

1001
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, we found some we found some cities, and was like,

1002
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 6: wait a minute, we ain't got no CD player.

1003
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: Let's see.

1004
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: I think this is a big thing we've been talking about,

1005
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: and I predicted that this would happen. So of course,

1006
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: you know, I have to take my get my flowers

1007
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: from myself. But Ziff Davis and I gn Ziff Davis

1008
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: is a company, not a person. Okay, you think Ziff

1009
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 2: Davis and IGN sue Open AI for copyright.

1010
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 5: Infringement, yep, you said that.

1011
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: I told y'all, it's not the little people.

1012
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: It was gonna be these big companies with some money

1013
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: that was gonna be the ones.

1014
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 5: To be like, hey, stop stilling.

1015
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: You're just stealing.

1016
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 5: That's what everybody's been saying. You're just stealing.

1017
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: Pray, what was that again?

1018
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, baby, you're just stealing. And I've listened to

1019
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 6: like professionals and podcasts kind of over the years talk

1020
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 6: about this and going to real deep depth about what

1021
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 6: a I does, and they basically like, it just goes

1022
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 6: through and comb It doesn't come up with anything new.

1023
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 6: It doesn't come up with anything creative because it's not

1024
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 6: its ideal. So when they talk about this a I,

1025
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 6: she is like, oh, y'all aren't coming up with anything

1026
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 6: they knew.

1027
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 5: You're just taking some shit, mixing and blending it together.

1028
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: I told y'all, man, it's a griff, right, It's actually

1029
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 2: not intelligent. It's just copying people's homework. It's not coming

1030
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: up with anything new or by itself. It's just going,

1031
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: here's some work a human already did. Let me copy

1032
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: that and paste it and tell you that it's something

1033
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: new and sell it like I like, now, let me

1034
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: keep that person from making money. Like when Google returns

1035
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: you some AI results instead of linking you to the

1036
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: website that has stole those results from that's someone's revenue

1037
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: that is now keeping you on the Google dot com

1038
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: and not whatever information you was looking for.

1039
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 5: Right, And what's so sad?

1040
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 6: A lot of these sites, particularly Google has wouldn't be surprising.

1041
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 6: I don't know the statistic if a lot of people

1042
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 6: stop using Google as much, because Google used to be

1043
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 6: the most accurate site. But once they was like, oh

1044
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 6: we're gonna go to AI, tell them what you're gone.

1045
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't even know if people stop using

1046
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 2: it or not. I don't know what the stats are.

1047
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: But the point is they had already made themselves a brand, right,

1048
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: They're just cashing in on the brand. To search for

1049
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: something means to google it. Yes, that's people say that.

1050
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: You know. It's like xerox means the copy right.

1051
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: And so at this point they they'll never lose as

1052
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: much of the brand as they gained, meaning no matter

1053
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: how shitty those results are, no matter the fact that

1054
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: they switched it, and it's not really giving you what

1055
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: you what Google now doesn't mean what it used to mean.

1056
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: Google used to.

1057
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: Mean here's some links to some experts. Now it means

1058
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: here's a copy and paste from an AI that may

1059
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: or may not have.

1060
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 3: Got it right.

1061
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 5: Who knows right, depending on the algorithm we told.

1062
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 3: It to search.

1063
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so now you got a completely different paradigm.

1064
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: And I guarantee you that people are getting less accurate results.

1065
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: But they but it to Google's like we stole it.

1066
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: You know, who gives a fuck? So anyway, I love

1067
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: to see that they're being sued. I know that not

1068
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: the only ones that are suing Open the Eye.

1069
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: I forget the other. I want to say, New York.

1070
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: Times is suing them their money, go sue them and

1071
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 2: Ziff Davis.

1072
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: It's big, they do.

1073
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: I gn Mashable, c net, Zd's, net, PC mag Life, Hacker,

1074
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 2: Baby Center, everyday.

1075
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 3: Hell.

1076
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 6: They seen their profits dropping somebody and they got the

1077
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 6: money to be like why, And somebody investigated and was like, hey,

1078
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 6: we did it, and it hits here and the people

1079
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 6: never cook the sights and somebody said the fuck.

1080
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: And they just taking your word for word, the work

1081
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: that you put in right and just being like, oh no,

1082
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: the AI says It's like the AI didn't say that Ai.

1083
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 5: Said, yeah, I stole that, Yes you did. This is

1084
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 5: my work.

1085
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, I appreciate.

1086
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: I appreciate that happening, and I hope it continues to happen.

1087
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: Keep sewing them all Right, We got to get out

1088
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: of here because I have a hard out at eight.

1089
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: I got another previous engagement with a podcast. But we

1090
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: will have a little bit of soord ratchetness before we

1091
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: hop off. This bad boy here we go.

1092
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 7: A sword and drove off in a police car after

1093
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 7: being pulled over for reckless driving. Is sitting in the

1094
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 7: Davis County jail. The police chase crossed state lines from

1095
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 7: Warwick County, Indiana to Davis County, Kentucky.

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00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: Thirty one year old Nina Davilli is facing a string

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00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: of charges. Today, eyewitness new Sydney Davis sat down with

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00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: Davilli for an exclusive jailhouse interview.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now you know she's crazy because.

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00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 2: In addition to driving them across state lines or whatever

1101
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: county lines, the fact that you would want to do

1102
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 2: an interview with the news at before you even had

1103
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 2: a trial, like you already had a sword mail, Like

1104
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: I got a feeling that you. I got a feeling

1105
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 2: she's not about to be the best interview as far

1106
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: as getting her logical points across, that's my guess.

1107
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: We do want to note that police identified the Villi

1108
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: as a man, but the Villi told us she identifies

1109
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: as a woman.

1110
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 4: Communicate with me, dog, like, just talk to.

1111
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 8: Me behind bars and still recovering from gunshot wounds. Need

1112
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 8: to Vla tells me the high speed chase that landed

1113
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 8: her here.

1114
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: First of all, the resilience to be able to get

1115
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: shot and then give an interview.

1116
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 5: That's that, and like, ain't putting no cameras in my face.

1117
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: I would be laying in the hospital bed with the

1118
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: things beeping, drugged up, and she's already out here, like,

1119
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: well listen, okay, First of all, I didn't.

1120
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Speaker 3: Even stab that many people.

1121
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 8: Wasn't a part of some master plan. But it all happened.

1122
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 8: Just before ten am on Monday, a traffic stopped for

1123
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 8: reckless driving in Chandler, Indiana.

1124
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Speaker 9: On camera shipped the swords swing she that shit and

1125
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 9: she got a helmet on too, which make you know,

1126
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 9: obviously you're not gonna be able to just physically accost

1127
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 9: that person like.

1128
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 3: Ooh, she like she didn't get killed, right.

1129
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 8: And ends with the police vehicles stolen, the police call

1130
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 8: the person on force.

1131
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: Wow, there's some grand theft auto ship.

1132
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 8: And has deemed responsible. Nina Davilli says she was how

1133
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 8: did the check on a front who shared they had

1134
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 8: experienced domestic violence the night before.

1135
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 4: To say, hey, what's up? You're doing okay?

1136
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: So I was?

1137
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 4: I was, you know, I was in a hurry, but

1138
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 4: I was not like being reckless for nothing.

1139
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 8: She accidented the vehicle with her hands up. She says

1140
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 8: her first intention.

1141
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: Was this, By the way, I know it's not funny,

1142
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 2: but this chase looked like some Reno.

1143
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: Nine one one.

1144
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 2: Shit it does the way he's chasing her around that

1145
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 2: car and she's running out all over.

1146
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 5: The does you can't lie? They got you on video.

1147
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: Talk to the officer and shout out to whoever recorded this.

1148
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: They holding the camera steady. Now they didn't turn it sideways,

1149
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 2: but they holding it steady.

1150
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 6: Like that's all you need, just hold the stays zooming in,

1151
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 6: zooming out right, No turn it.

1152
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, of communication made her easy.

1153
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 4: She said, get on the ground.

1154
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 6: Get on the ground.

1155
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: Now, I got this feeling and mean like if I

1156
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 4: got on the ground leaving cover, I'm not leaving this

1157
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 4: place alive.

1158
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 8: That's when she says she grabbed a foam sword.

1159
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: I said, hey, a foam sword.

1160
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is crazy because you could have got killed

1161
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: by the cops with a sword that can't even hurt them.

1162
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: But sword, why, this.

1163
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 4: Is a toy sword dog. It's a LARP sword. I'm

1164
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 4: just I'm just keeping my space.

1165
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: From you because a LARP sword. Is this a joke?

1166
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: This is really heaving?

1167
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 5: Wow?

1168
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 3: Wow? Wow? What are you doing? Trust him?

1169
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 8: In this video?

1170
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: I now see why she didn't get shot right away there.

1171
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: Because I'm not saying she shouldn't have got shot or whatever.

1172
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: I just but if that was a LARP sword, I

1173
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: could see the cop being like, come on, just you're

1174
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: stealing my cruiser, Dug, get out the car.

1175
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

1176
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: Right on his side, it's just more annoying than right, yeah,

1177
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: like I don't want to kill you.

1178
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 3: What the fuck?

1179
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 8: Philly can be seen swinging it at the officer.

1180
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 4: What live actual role play is you ever seen grown ups?

1181
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 4: That's what it was. It was a toy sword dog.

1182
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 4: It was made out of Camp Madden foam, and it

1183
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 4: is inspected and regulated. Now, this one actually bought from

1184
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 4: a professional This is not what I even made myself.

1185
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 4: I bought from a professional, and it was made. It's

1186
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 4: made specifically to hit someone with full contact and not

1187
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 4: enter them at all, so he was completely safe.

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00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: That that's that's that's insane. That's an insane thing to say.

1189
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: That's an insane thing to say, Hey, I'm the consoles

1190
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: of No, that is not meant to hurt you. That

1191
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: I'm swinging this sortitude. She must have been going through

1192
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: like some sort of mental health epidemic. It's an episode.

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00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 5: Then you still in their vehicle.

1194
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's no way problem. This was not logical things.

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00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: The fact that she's sitting there trying to explain it

1196
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: logically is the funniest part. Like she don't have to

1197
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: look back at there's an interview and be like, damn,

1198
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: I was wild.

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Speaker 8: With the Chandler police officer fires several shots at the

1200
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 8: VILLI who into the officers patrol vehicle.

1201
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 4: Well, I think the first time I had my hands

1202
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 4: up like this instinctively.

1203
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 8: The one hundred and thirty miles per hour speed chase

1204
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 8: all the way until she controlled the Chandler police quest and.

1205
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 3: This time looked like something outter justified. This ain't no

1206
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 3: major city.

1207
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 8: You're in the field, just past Owensboro Racing and Gaming.

1208
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 8: Law enforcement says. She then ran about three hundred yards

1209
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 8: and attempted to fight a Davis County deputy before being taped.

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00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 4: Kentucky to get into some cops over here to be like,

1211
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 4: how do you report a crime? I've been shot. I'm

1212
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 4: not going to the same police department that shot me

1213
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 4: to report that crime if I had known that he

1214
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 4: was Davis County.

1215
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 3: To report that crime. All Right, y'all, that's it. I

1216
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 3: gotta go. That's the list, everybody. It was a good episode.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to more stuff, I'm sure during the next.

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Speaker 3: Episode or something. All Right, y'all, till next time. I

1219
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: love you.

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Speaker 5: I love you too.