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Speaker 1: It's another edition. Hello, friends of the Bark Tank on

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Speaker 1: the Road. We're presented by Sugardale and we are here

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Speaker 1: for day two of the Reese's Senior Bowl Mobile Alabama.

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Speaker 1: The entire football world is here, and I do mean

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Speaker 1: really the entire football world. Coaches, GM's head coaches, position coaches,

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Speaker 1: college coaches, everybody is here. Kevin Stefanski is here, Andrew

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Speaker 1: Berry is here. Glenn Cook, who, by the way, is

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Speaker 1: going to join us a little bit later on this episode.

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Speaker 1: The Browns assistant general manager and VP of player Personnel.

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Speaker 2: He is here, the entire staff.

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Speaker 1: And when it comes to college coaches, Marcus Freeman is

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Speaker 1: here from Notre Dame. Have his quarterback Riley Leonard, have

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Speaker 1: rj Oben as well a defensive end.

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Speaker 2: Amongst some of the Golden.

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Speaker 1: Dome talent here, Brett Bilima, the Illinois head coaches. Here,

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Speaker 1: his wide receiver Pat Bryant, fantastic this year in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten. Had a great catch down the sideline earlier

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Speaker 1: here today. Anyway, you get my point. And as we

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Speaker 1: said yesterday, Day two is really about improving, building upon

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Speaker 1: what we saw from all these players. A lot of

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Speaker 1: install on Day won, a lot of verbiage. A lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff, as Bubba had said on the pod yesterday,

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Speaker 1: like simple stuff like helmet communication between coach and quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Even though that was brought into the

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Speaker 1: college game last year, it's still an adjustment, new voices

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Speaker 1: in your helmet. So what did we see right now?

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Speaker 1: We got behind us Bubba Van Trone's team, the American

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Speaker 1: team coaching. They're not yet wrapped up. The national team

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Speaker 1: was out there earlier today. Had two really impressive defensive

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Speaker 1: ends in the one on one drills. First off, Donovan

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Speaker 1: Azaraku from BC. We had mentioned him a couple of

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Speaker 1: days ago. Players we want to look at. He had

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Speaker 1: thirty nine and a half nearly forty TFLs and sacks

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Speaker 1: combined this past year. He's kind of lean, but man,

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Speaker 1: he's got speed, he's got power.

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Speaker 2: He impressed in those one on one.

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Speaker 1: Drills, as did Mike Green, which is again a name

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Speaker 1: we gave you yesterday. It is far too early to

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Speaker 1: project where a guy goes. To me, he looks like

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Speaker 1: a first round pick, a guy that might have had

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Speaker 1: good nil money if he wanted to leave Marshall. He

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Speaker 1: started his career at Virginia, probably could have gone somewhere

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Speaker 1: else and chased the college bag, if you will. He

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Speaker 1: put his name in the draft. He had a move,

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Speaker 1: a power move off the ball on Josh Connery, the

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Speaker 1: big Oregon offensive tackle. He just knocked him on his

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Speaker 1: rear and the crowd went nuts and his teammates went nuts.

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Speaker 1: That's the good stuff. That is why you are here.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just Bryant from Illinois. It's Smith the

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Speaker 1: speedster wearing eleven from Georgia. He just made a great

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Speaker 1: catch here back of the end zone. It's the one

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Speaker 1: on one drills that you want. Those guys have certainly impressed.

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Speaker 1: I told you yesterday Harold Fannin from Bowling Green and

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Speaker 1: the other tight end as well, Mason Taylor from LSU.

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Speaker 1: Both of them have looked good. I'm gonna be partial

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Speaker 1: as well. And I am wearing a Syracuse at because

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Speaker 1: it is kind of hot and steam the idea. I

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Speaker 1: got sunburned yesterday. As you can see from Leaquent Allen,

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Speaker 1: the running back out of Syracuse put of great numbers

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Speaker 1: this year. With former Buckeye quarterb Kyle McCord. He made

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Speaker 1: a nice catch in the end zone on a go route.

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Speaker 1: That guy can play a little bit, and this is

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Speaker 2: He's looked good here as well.

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Speaker 1: And really, Jackson Dartists look good as much as Dylan

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Speaker 1: Gabriel got the hype yesterday, and he deserves it. The

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Speaker 1: stature probably not NFL stature, let's just say it. At

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Speaker 1: five ten and a half, it isn't NFL stature. But

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Speaker 1: he had a nice ball an ice crosser right over

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Speaker 1: Tez Johnson, who started his career right down the road

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Speaker 1: of beauty. He whipped it. And that guy's got some arm.

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Speaker 1: What does he do in the NFL? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Plays a little bit like Tua.

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Speaker 1: You want a small, left handed quarterback to back up

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Speaker 1: the guy in Miami. You want to keep the system

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel may be your guy. He's not a top

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Speaker 1: Jackson dart Ball comes out quickly. He's got good release.

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Speaker 1: I really like him as well. From Ole Miss It's

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Speaker 1: very very early, however, and as much as you see

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Speaker 1: day two.

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Speaker 2: What really is important here is day three.

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Speaker 1: I know the game is important for the Resa Senior

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Speaker 1: Boll it's Saturday, it's on national television. But day three

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Speaker 1: all the scouts and the gms go home. Then all

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Speaker 1: the head coaches go home. They are out of here

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Speaker 1: on Thursday afternoon. They saw what they saw, they did

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Speaker 1: their interviews. They leave the rest of the scouting staff

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Speaker 1: to maybe finish things up on Thursday. And then on Friday,

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Speaker 1: mobiles a ghost town. It turns into parades and Marty

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Speaker 1: Graul though Marty Graus is not here Easters a little

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Speaker 1: later this year, and then everyone goes home. They compare

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Speaker 1: their notes and they sit on the couch and they

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Speaker 1: watch on Saturday. This right here is the most important work,

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Speaker 1: hands down. And then you have draft meetings, and then

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Speaker 1: you have the combine at the end of February, and

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Speaker 1: then truly it gets serious. This is a lot of confirmation. Really,

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Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's you saw guys in person.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you scouted on Saturdays during the season. You certainly

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Speaker 1: have watched all the tape. You certainly prepped all your notes,

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Speaker 1: you're like, now we're good. There might be some guys

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Speaker 1: you're like, ah, I'm not sure about the tape. But

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Speaker 1: check because that guy now has proven that he could

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Speaker 1: do it, and he's proven that he could learn. He

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Speaker 1: proven that he can get better throughout the week. So

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Speaker 1: one more day here of practice. We spoke to Andrew

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Speaker 1: Berry yesterday standing right here. Actually time for the Assistant

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Speaker 1: GM to join the Bark Tank. All right, So this

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Speaker 1: is cool. We had Andrew Berry, we had Bubba vn trone.

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Speaker 1: We now have the Brons Assistant GM, the VP of

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Speaker 2: How's mobile?

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, as you can see, it's it's sunny,

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Speaker 3: you know. I wish I wish our fans in Cleveland

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Speaker 3: could be down here and join us a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Given given out cold, it might be up there. So

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Speaker 3: it's good to be here.

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Speaker 1: B had eight inches of snow here last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but we got we got the good

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Speaker 3: side of the weather man. You know, it's sixty degree

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Speaker 2: It's a chamber of commerce day.

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Speaker 1: As Jim Naggy, the director of the RecA Seier Bowl

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Speaker 1: likes to say, who's down here on the field. You

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Speaker 1: were sitting with the Browns Brain Trust Scouting Trust kind

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Speaker 1: of right near the fifty yard line with a great view.

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Speaker 1: How do you watch a Senior Bowl practice? Because you've

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Speaker 1: seen most of these guys and take we've seen a

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Speaker 1: lot of them in person as well during the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is it gives us another opportunity

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Speaker 3: see how they compete. Man, it's all about ever when

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Speaker 3: I add do is and infuse the team with toughness, competitiveness,

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Speaker 3: guys who love ball. So look they did it for

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Speaker 3: it's been fun. It's been fun to see them get

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Speaker 1: I think the point that Bronze fans need to get

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Speaker 1: the thirty third pick could be there. There's so much

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Speaker 1: talent on this field. One hundred and ten players were

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Speaker 1: a game like this with any of those guys in

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Speaker 1: the past. Was there a moment at the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: where like, all right, this verifies what we scouted during

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Speaker 2: Check.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the things you do want to

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Speaker 3: some of the guys who perform well at the Senior

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Speaker 3: they show up here and they make plays, you know,

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Speaker 3: So Williams, I think we you know, specifically maybe using

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Speaker 3: the talent stood out, and his ability to pass block

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Speaker 3: So we're just looking for that. We're trying to take

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Speaker 3: to hear these guys share their stories, you know, talk

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Speaker 3: it all together to again add not only really talented players,

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Speaker 1: I think to Wan is a perfect example. On Tuesday

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Speaker 1: two years ago, he stood right there and he blocked

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Speaker 1: one on one drills and then he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's also fascinating, like a guy like Mike

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Speaker 1: greenon for Marshall today knocked the tackle on his rear.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not about that.

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Speaker 1: It's about how that offensive lineman then backs it up

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Speaker 2: It comes back on the next rep.

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Speaker 3: Right percent, I mean speaking of the one I wants

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Speaker 3: today like those as we're getting after it, and look,

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Speaker 3: we don't look at it so microscopically where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you lost the one rep, you can't play, But is

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Speaker 3: that right? Like did he get up, you know, did

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Speaker 3: he take the coaching, did he understand where he went wrong?

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Speaker 3: And then that next rep, what did he do? You know?

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Speaker 3: Like Connley got up in the instance on the next

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Speaker 3: time and did a good job. So it's really just

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Speaker 3: about getting the full evaluation. This is the next phase,

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Speaker 3: right like we had the whole season. Our scouts did

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Speaker 3: a great job to kind of set us up for

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Speaker 2: And I was talking about Josh Connelly, the Oregon tackle.

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Speaker 1: He's a dude, right, He's a dude in the conversation

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Speaker 1: You were in Dallas to the East West yep shrineble

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Speaker 1: The Mark tankers out of buy Sugardale, everybody. We have

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