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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys let go. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, And so

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Speaker 1: much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar

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Speaker 1: Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, June first, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number eleven. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: latest edition of The Break. We are live for the

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Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star and we've got

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Speaker 1: an hour of Cowboys talk with you guys a day today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna actually zero in on three guys I would say,

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Speaker 1: I guess we probably would all agree. They're probably the

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Speaker 1: three most high profile players, definitely on the office and

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Speaker 1: it's maybe on the whole team. We're gonna talk about Dak,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Zeke, and we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and kind of dive in a little bit

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Speaker 1: on those three players and where they were last year

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Speaker 1: going into this year, and what the expectation should be

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Speaker 1: for them this year. Right now, the Cowboys are in

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Speaker 1: their second week of OTAs. They have another week next week,

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Speaker 1: and then they'll have their mini camp before they send

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Speaker 1: everybody away for a little bit of break and relaxation

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Speaker 1: before training. Sounds good, but I mean training camp is

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Speaker 1: now next month. I know it's coming. It's coming. I

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Speaker 1: just submitted our list the other day. You all are

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Speaker 1: on it. Did we get rejected? Well, you know, not yet,

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Speaker 1: no one else, not yet. But we'll see if anybody

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Speaker 1: comes back and says anything about it. But you're all

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Speaker 1: on the list. So get ready start packing amber. You're

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Speaker 1: heading the training camp. I'm packing for two or three

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Speaker 1: vacations before that, are you Yes, you want to say

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Speaker 1: where you're going. You don't want to tell people out there.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna tell us either, like nobody's gonna know.

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Speaker 1: Just gonna hang like a gone fishing sign at my cube.

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Speaker 1: Starting on June seventeenth, we're we're vacation in the same time.

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Speaker 1: That's when I'm talking about vacation. I always like it

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Speaker 1: when I take vacation to other people are out too.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Let's talk about it. I did

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Speaker 1: another three or four vacations. I got two, so you

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Speaker 1: might want to plan a few, Nick, Yeah, right, can

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Speaker 1: you got a right? Can? If Dave's taken three and

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Speaker 1: some of them are weekends, whatever, Yeah, it works, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's jump in. I want to talk a lot. I

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Speaker 1: want to start this conversation first with Dak. Last week

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Speaker 1: he met with the media for a little bit of time,

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Speaker 1: he was talking about being focused on his footwork and consistency,

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Speaker 1: saying he's fully healthy, as it was not the case

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Speaker 1: last year. And I want to start the conversation there. Um,

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Speaker 1: just in a general sense, if you look at how

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Speaker 1: Dak performed last season, what do you think is the

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Speaker 1: area where you most want to see him improve going

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Speaker 1: into twenty twenty two. Uh, let's start start off better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we had too many slow starts in games.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a great answer for that. In a vacuum,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Dak Prescott needs to improve very much.

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Speaker 1: So that's how I'm going to choose to judge him.

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Speaker 1: But I think that was part of it. The other

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Speaker 1: is what we're doing. Yeah, and that might have been it.

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Speaker 1: But two, I think you're one hundred percent right. But

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Speaker 1: I think everything you just said would apply the same

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Speaker 1: way if you took out nineteen and said eighty eight

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Speaker 1: five years ago, Like was Dak Prescott spurring the charge

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Speaker 1: to get rid of dez No? But did Dak probably

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Speaker 1: see which way that was going and was privy to that? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: I also don't think Dack necessarily had the influence in

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Speaker 1: like typically doesn't just come out of nowhere. That's all

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it sounds great in the spring, and

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Speaker 1: then in the fall when you've got to create separation,

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Speaker 1: it's another story, That's all I'm saying. So he may

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Speaker 1: We're just I've been here I've been here too many times.

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Speaker 1: I've been here too many times in May listening to like, well,

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Speaker 1: this is what we think he can do, and this

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Speaker 1: is why we're excited about it. And then you get

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Speaker 1: out there against James Bradberry and Dante Jackson I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: about specifically. I don't even know if Bradberry was there,

447
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Speaker 1: but the twenty eighteen opener against Carolina. They only lost

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Speaker 1: that game sixteen to eight, but I just remember feeling hopeless.

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Speaker 1: I was like, they can't do they are not going

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Speaker 1: to move this ball downfield. They can't do anything, like

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Speaker 1: nobody's open, they got nothing, and Kawan Short is just

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Speaker 1: eating Dak for lunch like a like, and there's a

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Speaker 1: rude awakening. And six weeks later, Amari was on the team.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Can't you just see being at

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Speaker 1: then somebody's were like, Amara just scored a second toime. Yes,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's gonna at some point this year. All right,

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Speaker 1: playing level and all that. I keep thinking, I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: where did it go wrong? Like what happened last year?

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Speaker 1: And I feel like at the beginning of the season

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Speaker 1: they were collectively good, second half they were collectively bad.

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Speaker 1: So it's like I'm I'm just I'm trying. And that

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Speaker 1: goes into like coaching as well, like Kellen Moore what

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Speaker 1: he was doing in the in the game, so jet

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Speaker 1: like really happened and and too like is there anything

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Speaker 1: that's like because you know in years you could say, oh,

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Speaker 1: you have Zeke running the ball. He was the one

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Speaker 1: carrying the team. But like, I really don't see anybody

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Speaker 1: last year in that second half where that was the

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Speaker 1: good the only good thing from the offense. I think

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Speaker 1: the minute that they put the red stripe on that helmet,

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Speaker 1: that changed everything. And that was the Denver game. I

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Speaker 1: hate that. I know your kid never but I know

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Speaker 1: there are a bunch of people that are like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the stripe, don't ever bring the stripe back. I thought

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Speaker 1: the stripe looked great. It was, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: they well Denver, Denver. Really, you know, whether you want

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Speaker 1: to say there's a lot of colors involved there. Was

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Speaker 1: it red because of the stripe, was it orange because

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Speaker 1: what the stadium looked like and what those jerseys? Or

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Speaker 1: was it blue the blueprint that everyone talked about that

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Speaker 1: really changed everything? And I write articles here on the

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Speaker 1: ear is it like yeah, I really though always didn't

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Speaker 1: have enough green. I think you can point to damn

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Speaker 1: near everything a g that's it makes it frustrating to

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Speaker 1: try to figure out. I mean, go go down the list, start,

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Speaker 1: I mean offensive line. Tyrn Smith gets hurt. Another thing,

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Speaker 1: Lyle Collins. Nobody seem can seem to agree whether he

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Speaker 1: needs to be in or out of the starting lineup.

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Speaker 1: And there's one day we'll get to the bottom of

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Speaker 1: that whole drama, like over some limonds with somebody. But

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00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: and then I think about this too, like even go

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00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: back to when they were winning New England comes to mind.

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00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: They could not stop committing holding penalties in that game,

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Speaker 1: and it was like it almost made you excited because

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Speaker 1: you were like, oh my god, Like they keep getting

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Speaker 1: out of these first and twenties, like they keep converting anyway,

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Speaker 1: They're so damn good, and they stopped doing that in

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Speaker 1: the second half. I think a big part of that

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Speaker 1: is guys getting hurt. Well. And then think about, you know,

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Speaker 1: the second half of the season, like starting with Denver,

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Speaker 1: what else happens Amari gets covid CD gets a concussion

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City, I know there was something else. Somebody

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Speaker 1: else goes missing, Blake Jarwin winds up getting hurt to

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Speaker 1: the point that it derails his career. That's an understated injury.

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Speaker 1: Zeke has a partially torn PCL DAK. At the very least,

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Speaker 1: if he wasn't hurt, he was in his head about

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Speaker 1: avoiding injury. I'm just gonna say that for him, I

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Speaker 1: just he just didn't seem like he was playing with

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Speaker 1: you know, hurt his calf, and I think for the

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Speaker 1: Law hadn't could come back yet, so they played. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they probably should have beaten the Raiders by by seventeen points.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have a receiver, they didn't have a pass rush.

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Speaker 1: And in Kansas City too, I mean the way that

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Speaker 1: defense played considering you know, they had chances there and

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Speaker 1: didn't score a touchdown up there, but didn't have any receivers.

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Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to even bring up the um the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: game because, like I mean, most of these losses down

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Speaker 1: the second half of the season were games that they

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Speaker 1: lost because the offense couldn't do anything like the defense. More.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen points from the Chiefs at Arrowhead All should be day.

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Speaker 1: I think they forced they did force two takeaways in

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Speaker 1: that game. They sacked Mahomes two or three times. Defense

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Speaker 1: played really well. Really the Raiders game is the only

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Speaker 1: loss that you can squarely peg on the defense. I

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Speaker 1: suppose Tampa too. I'm very forgiving about that Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: game though, just I mean opening night against that team,

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Speaker 1: like what I mean, where they did everything they that

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Speaker 1: you would have expected them to. Sometimes you just tip

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Speaker 1: your cap and say, somebody loses, like I don't even

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Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here, like if they could only done this,

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Speaker 1: It's like no. But she's one of those you knew,

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Speaker 1: like when the field goal went through and it was

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Speaker 1: like a minute thirty and you're like, yeah, I think yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was like I was packing my bag to go

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Speaker 1: down and Derek, you know, Derek loves to play that.

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Speaker 1: He's like, what do we think, Davy, what's gonna happen next?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, they're gonna give up the field

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Speaker 1: goal and lose. Derek, Like, I hate to be a bummer,

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Speaker 1: but I just wanted you to play a long It's

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. It's not maybe you'd give me something interesting,

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Speaker 1: but no, it was the same thing that we all

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Speaker 1: knew what was going to happen. All right, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about And I don't know where you were going with

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Speaker 1: before I was still trying to figure out what happening. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Well, no, we're trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with the wide receiver. A great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well I want to talk about that's another interesting part. Well,

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Speaker 1: we heard this quote that came last week. Clarence Till

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Speaker 1: the Fort Art Star Telegram talked to Jerry, and Jerry

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Speaker 1: basically told him that he thinks that CD, or at

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Speaker 1: least I'm gonna say. The paraphrase of what Clarence wrote

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Speaker 1: was that CD will be an upgrade over a MARI.

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Speaker 1: And the quoted part was this was relative to his

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Speaker 1: production in the huddle and off the field. Now, you

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Speaker 1: guys are Jerry whispers, you kind of know how Jerry talks.

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Speaker 1: Tell me, what do you think he was getting at?

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Speaker 1: Because he specified those three things, what do you think

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Speaker 1: he could have been getting at? First from a standpoint

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Speaker 1: of production, second from the standpoint of in the huddle,

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Speaker 1: and third from the standpoint of off the field. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we can go ahead. I don't think I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think we've I think We've done all we can

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Speaker 1: do to lay this out, Like I'm trying to try

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Speaker 1: to lead a horse to water, right, like there was

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Speaker 1: dissatisfaction with a Mari Cooper that had nothing to do

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Speaker 1: we made that pretty clear over the last four months,

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Speaker 1: Like in whether that's in terms of like the buy

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Speaker 1: in again, Like I don't have to extrapolate anything. Jerry

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Speaker 1: let you know on the radio how aggravated he was

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Speaker 1: about not being vaccinated. He I mean, he called him

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Speaker 1: things where you're listening to it and you're like, whoa

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Speaker 1: he said, I not me? Or are we not me?

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Speaker 1: Whatever he said. It's like, damn, he just took a

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Speaker 1: shot at his star receiver right here on the radio.

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Speaker 1: And then and then you hear other things we've talked

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Speaker 1: about it on here, like pulling yourself out of the

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Speaker 1: of the de Facto Division title game in twenty nineteen.

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00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: Like that stuff. It's fun talk radio fodder. It makes

640
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: an impression in the front office as well, And like

641
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: that's those are things that I've heard directly from people

642
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: that's not me guessing. So yeah, and I'm fine. I mean,

643
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: and also we were factoring in offseason, Jerry, I mean,

644
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: he's he's always optimistic. He's going to be optimistic on this,

645
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: and I'm fine it. Maybe CD Lamb as a number

646
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: one receiver can be better than Amari Cooper is a

647
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: number one. That's very possible. What I don't think is

648
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: going to happen is who's going to be better than

649
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: CD as the number two. The question has never been

650
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: about Amari verse CD. It's always cool you got a

651
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: pretty good number one. What all? What's going on with

652
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: the rest of this. Pip Pippen did a nice job

653
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: of replacing Jordan that year at ninety four, but no one,

654
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: there was not another Pippin Now, that was the problem.

655
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: And I'm you know, I mean, I'm just saying that

656
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: he did the best he could to kind of be

657
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: the guy he was Jordan, But no, he wasn't. But

658
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying CD could be better than than Amar.

659
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: But the problem is that they have two of them,

660
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: you know. And now Jerry also threw that quote in

661
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: there about Amari should when he should take half the

662
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: field with them when he goes as a number one receiver. Yeah,

663
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: there's another like shot across the bowl, Like I think

664
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: that was No, that was when a Mari was still

665
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: on the team. Yeah, that was like after the playoff

666
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: loss wayoff game, which there's some everything that we say

667
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: about like Dak does this or Mari does this or

668
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: first half starts. It all kind of comes back to

669
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, like Kellen Moore's gotta be gotta be better too,

670
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: He's got to be Yeah, And I mean they all

671
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: do you know you just said it. I mean a

672
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: lot of the defensive you know issues weren't really there

673
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: as much. Some of it they were, but I mean

674
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: the offense was the underlying problem here. It does. It

675
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: irks It irks me the way that this gets framed

676
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: into like a CD versa Mari thing, when it's really

677
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: more about, Okay, you've got a pretty damn good number two.

678
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: We'll see when he's available. And also, again, this isn't Madden,

679
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: where the prerequisite eight months go by and you're one

680
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: hundred percent might play. Yeah, I'm so well. I mean

681
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: he might even be ready to play. He might not

682
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: be the same Michael Gallop right away. Guys say that

683
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: all the time. So how good can he be and

684
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: how quickly then you got a rookie, a third round rookie,

685
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: not Cede Lamb, a guy you took in the third round.

686
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Like we all hope for the best for that, but

687
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: it's no guarantee. It's it's always has been about what

688
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: the rest of the depth chart looks like. I got

689
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: no worries about Ceedee Lamb. It's everybody else. Yeah, I

690
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: think that finding a solid group is pretty hard. Like

691
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm still traumatized from the time of when they were playing,

692
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: like what did they call it, by committee or receiver receiver? Yeah,

693
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: it adjourned that committee in week seven and traded for

694
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: somebody else. Yeah, it were coming back from visiting Washington,

695
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: d C. They have the monuments and everything. Yeah, it

696
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: was a big mess. But once they got to what

697
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: they had last year and you saw the way that

698
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: Tad was just it could be anybody, Cedric Wilson, even

699
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: Noah Brown. At times it was just clicking. It was

700
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: working until it wasn't. But that's the thing like right now,

701
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: and I know it's just OTA's first week was last week,

702
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: But to see two of your guys hurt, not being

703
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: able to practice, I mean, crap, I'm already you know,

704
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: fast forward into the season, I'm like, okay, what the

705
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: heck does this look like? When it was already a

706
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: concern overall, and then you get two guys that are injured.

707
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: And again these aren't major injuries or anything, but it's

708
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: still something to keep an eye on, and every practice

709
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: for new guys, especially rookies and even new guys as

710
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: veterans coming in here, I mean, all of the time

711
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: is very very valuable, exactly right. I Mean that's that's

712
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: the thing, Like, yeah, it may not be major injuries,

713
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: but this is the time where they need to build

714
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 1: that chemistry, especially you know with receivers and quarterbacks. So yeah,

715
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: I mean those that that's why somebody's gonna step into this.

716
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: And it was Cedric Wilson last year, you know, and

717
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: it could be you know, Semi Phijoko. I mean, like

718
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: we all we could always laugh and chuckle and like,

719
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: he's not gonna do He didn't even catch a pass

720
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: last year. Same with Cedric Wilson. He didn't do anything

721
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: to make us think he's going to be a seven

722
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: million dollar receiver going in free agency. Okay, And I

723
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: don't want to put words in your mouth. I know

724
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: what you mean, and somebody will step up and take

725
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean somebody has to catch the ball, like somebody

726
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: will take those receptions. But Cedric Wilson's road being a

727
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: seven million dollar player was very long. I just to

728
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: give you an idea, like when you think about how

729
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: long it takes to get to that point. Missed his

730
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: rookie year with the shoulder injury, came back in twenty

731
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: nineteen and was mainly like a return man who maybe

732
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: got onto the field every now and then twenty twenty

733
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: really had one great game, which was Seattle when was

734
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: somebody hurt. I don't remember why he got onto the

735
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: field so much or maybe, but I think he finished

736
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: with four hundred yards that year, and like one hundred

737
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: and fifty of him came against Seattle. Year four, after

738
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: he's worked that hard and been around for that long,

739
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: he is ready to still be the number three. I mean,

740
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: like just to give you you don't just get any point. Yeah,

741
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't. If it was not for an injury by Gallop,

742
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: then he's not. So you're right. It sounds fun to say, like, well, yeah,

743
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: like this sixth round pick will step up and plug

744
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: right in and hopefully somebody can. But that is a

745
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: lot of blood, sweat and tears. Like that's why guys

746
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: like Cedric Wilson are my favorite players, because that dude

747
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: worked his ass off to carve out even at the

748
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: end of the day, not a small role, but a

749
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: specific role, you know what I mean? Said than done.

750
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah my point to that. And this was a mail

751
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: back question maybe even this morning. They kind of run together,

752
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: but like, which which which undrafted player do you see starting?

753
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: And you're like, if you could see it based off

754
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: of right now, they would have. It would have been

755
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: something they did in college and if you could see it,

756
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: then they would have been drafted. I I never thought

757
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: Tony Romo was going to be the franchise quarterback. He did,

758
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: he did? He did? You know it might have been

759
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: because he struggled in our flag football playoff game and

760
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy's not gonna be for ever. For

761
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: every guy that Chris Chris was there, we had that

762
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: we should have won that game. For every guy that

763
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: gets to the mountaintop and says like I always knew

764
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: there's another there's a dozen guys every year who carried

765
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: themselves that way and are gone by October. True. But yeah,

766
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: so I never saw this. Cedric Wilson, I never I

767
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: never thought that was going to happen, you know, never

768
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: sol Terrence Steel taken over as a starting tackle. So

769
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: it's hard to see any of those guys. So maybe

770
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: it is a Phoco, Maybe it is a TJ. Vasher,

771
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: Maybe it is Ontario Drummond, who's an undrafted guy. Might

772
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: be on our website right now. Yeah, Frankly, I think

773
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: all of this, all of what we will think of

774
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: this wide receiver group when it comes down to it

775
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, in my opinion, will

776
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: be about the offensive coordinator. If they continue the same

777
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: way they've played, which is we're gonna just run it

778
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: out there, We're gonna try to find the open guy.

779
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna have our quarterback get the ball to the

780
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: open guy, I think they're gonna be unsuccessful. I think

781
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: if the offensive coordinator schemes up opportunities and finds as

782
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: many unique ways to utilize their best asset when it's

783
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: when you're talking about their receiving corps, which is ceedee Lamb,

784
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: I think they can be successful because there are a

785
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: lot of teams you look at San Francisco and Deebo.

786
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: There are other good receivers on that team, but make

787
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: no mistake of that whole thing started and ended with

788
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel doing what he does. And I think there

789
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: are several teams around the league like that. When you

790
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: have that kind of talent and the difference between that

791
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: guy and the next guy, it's as big as I

792
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: think it is. Especially while Michael Gallup is out, then

793
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: I think you better find ways to get the ball

794
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: in his laying hands and let him make I think

795
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: you take you take San Francisco off the table because

796
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: they don't have a player. Nobody has a player like Debo.

797
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: And I think you take Green Bay off the table

798
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: with Davanta Adams because nobody has a I don't think

799
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: people have quarterbacks like Rogers. Even my homes is not

800
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: like him. As far as just getting it done with

801
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: one guy. I look at Arizona. Did did Hopkins get

802
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: the ball a lot? Did did they figure out? Because

803
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: you know Kyler Murray and dak A two years ago? Okay,

804
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: that's that's comparable to me, a guy. You know, um,

805
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: they were figuring out ways to get Michael Thomas the ball.

806
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, can you say the Saints of

807
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: the same way with Michael Thomas was healthy, they were

808
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: very dominant to to him, right, So yeah, I think

809
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: it's possible. I mean I don't I don't like that

810
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: comparison necessarily with Rogers. People say that all the time.

811
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: It's like nobody's Rodgers, you know. And I don't think

812
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: anyone right now is really debot But but there are

813
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: other options, I mean, other comparisons there. I just I'm

814
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: really march Case isn't another one. They get him the ball.

815
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: They got good receivers there too, the ball better than

816
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: everybody else though, right loaded skill group though, but he's

817
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: he's much better than this. I mean, they get him

818
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: the ball. So I don't think we're really arguing, But

819
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: like it helps Higgins and your number two is a

820
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: top forty pick, your number three is one of the

821
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: better slots in the league. And don't forget the top

822
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: five or six running back that's in the backfield commanding

823
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: that attention as well. So I think you need a

824
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: little bit of everything. And that's what I was about

825
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: to say, is that's all well and good. Kellamore can

826
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: definitely improve Ceedee Lamb needs to be a focal point.

827
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be rooting like hell for Michael Gallup to

828
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: crush this rehab because that is the quickest solve of

829
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: all is if he's running routes in August and you're like,

830
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: damn well, like he's way ahead of schedule and we

831
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that right now, and I'm

832
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: not trying to put undue pressure on the guy, but man,

833
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: that would go a long way toward making me feel

834
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: better about things. All right, we're gonna take our final break, comeback.

835
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Speaker 1: I did have one more question on CD. I want

836
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: to ask you, guys, where do you think is his

837
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: biggest area for improvement going into this year? And then

838
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about Zeke in his final segment.

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Speaker 1: com and we were talking about Ceedee Lamb. We're going

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Speaker 1: to continue talking about seed Lamb. My question for you

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00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: guys is where do you think is his greatest area

884
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: for improvement. Where can he this year really really take

885
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: a step in getting better as a receiver over what

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00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: he's been to this point in his career. I think

887
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: it's probably lazy to say, but every thing. Be the man.

888
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: I think he's got to, you know, be the dude.

889
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: Like that's that's what he hasn't had to do that before. Coach,

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00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: What about I need to improve on to be the man.

891
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: Just be the man. I hope to coach get a

892
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: better edge. I just to start playing like Olive Black.

893
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm the man. I'm the man. That's it. That's it.

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00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm the man. Just be the man. I just have

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00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: snapshot memories of CD's goofs. For lack of a better word,

896
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean week one, Dak's pick in Week one was

897
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: on him. That's a drop. I have a vivid memory.

898
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: I think it was fourth down right outside the red

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00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: zone at the beginning of the Saints game. They schemed

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00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: him open, and maybe some of it was on Dak,

901
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: but he and Dak miscommunicated and the ball, I mean

902
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: he might score if the ball if if they had

903
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: been on the same page about what was happening. Um.

904
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Speaker 1: Just stuff like that where it's like, you know, I

905
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: think your your hands are are not as consistent as

906
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: they could be. Your route running is probably not as

907
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: consistent as it could be. And that's It's not to

908
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: say he's like a bad player. He made the Pro Bowl,

909
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: but if you're going to be the number one receiver,

910
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: you need to get better at all that stuff. And they,

911
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: like what we were just saying in the second segment,

912
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: you got to feature the guy too, like especially now,

913
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: like if you've got CDN Amari, fine, but this guy

914
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: is clearly a step above the rest of your receiving options.

915
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: You can't like go into a game like, well, well,

916
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: we'll get him the ball when opportunity presents itself, Like

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Speaker 1: you need a little more of a game plan on

918
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Speaker 1: how to make sure this guy is making an impact.

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Speaker 1: He's going to probably face a lot of the you know,

920
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: really good corners, and I think you know, obviously quickness

921
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: feet is good, but probably the really good corners are

922
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: the ones that know how to get their hands on

923
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: you and and and stop you at the line. So

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00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: just looking at CD, I mean, no one's no one's

925
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: ever saying he should be playing tight end, you know,

926
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Speaker 1: convert him to tight end. He's obviously lighting the ass

927
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: and he's lean, that's what he is. He needs to

928
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: make sure he gets off the ball. He's gonna face

929
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: the best corners, They're gonna get their hands on it.

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00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna be physical. He's got to be physical back.

931
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Speaker 1: So we're finding a lot of things here on that note,

932
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: Like what did you guys think of that a little?

933
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know how. I call it an experiment,

934
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: but they tried a few times last year to line

935
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: him up in the backfield, give him the ball, doing

936
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: the Debo esque type things. I always thought it was

937
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: a mismatch, will not mismatch. I thought he was put

938
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: him in a situation where it's a little out of place.

939
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: You guys agree with that, or you think you want

940
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: to see more of it. I want to be clear.

941
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't want him carrying the ball to the degree

942
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Speaker 1: that Debo did. No, But like, see, but what you remember,

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00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: and I know what you remember is when he did

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00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: it against Washington and got his ass lit up. Yes

945
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: I do. But what you've probably forgotten is when he

946
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: did it against San Francisco in twenty twenty and scored

947
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: from eighteen yards out. Like you're right, You're right. I

948
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: didn't think about it. He's got good vision, he's fast, Like,

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00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm down with it, as long as you're judicious about

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00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: when you do it and getting tackled as part of football.

951
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: It's the same thing as Dak Like, I'm fine with

952
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: him doing it. I think he's got the potential to

953
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: make big plays that way, just you know, but there's

954
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: no need for him to top out at more than

955
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: like fifteen to twenty carries us sets. Yeah, but you know,

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00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: there's a reason why the running backs aren't six two

957
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: and sixty three, and if they are, they look like

958
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: Derek Henry, which you know, good luck with that. But

959
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: that's a lot of target to hit. And that's kind

960
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: of what happened. I'll play he does kind of run

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00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: high and all that. Now he had to run against

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, I believe, around kind of close to the

963
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: red zone goal line where it was like a draw

964
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: and you know, it just kind of that was when

965
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: that that hat first half kill. I was just hitting

966
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: them with everything and he had a draw there. It

967
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: was about fifteen yards first down and right behind Terrence Steele.

968
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: It was just like, what's going on here? This is great,

969
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: you know, but so in Spurts, but then again he was.

970
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Now he's the number one guy. It's the same as

971
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: the punt return. Do we expect him to be the

972
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: punt returner? And he's got different duties now as the

973
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: number one receiver and that's what they need, you know.

974
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: And I just don't think he's special at running it

975
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: and special as a punt return. So if you're not

976
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: going to be special, then I think you stick to

977
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: being special number one receiver and we find someone else

978
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: to do that stuff. All right, let's talk about the

979
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: running back position. I want to talk about Zeke Elliott.

980
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: It was in San Francisco. It was Philly that he

981
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: did that again. Sorry, okay, he had the on site

982
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: recovery against I can't remember either one of them. I

983
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: just remember the run, Like I don't remember who they

984
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: were playing. I just remember the run, and I was like, Okay,

985
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: it's kind of kind of good. I like that. Give

986
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: me some more of that. All right, let's talk about

987
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott at his best, assuming he's healthy. What do

988
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: you think is the best case scenario for him this

989
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: season and what the Cowboys should be expecting from him

990
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: this season at his best, at his best twelve hundred

991
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: yards and ten touchdowns. Pretty good, man. Yeah, what do

992
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: he had last year? He had a thousands yards eight

993
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: touchdowns something like that. I mean it was a thousand yards.

994
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's still a thousand and three. I

995
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: mean it was like, oh yeah, he just Scott, he

996
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: like fell over the line. A thousand and two and

997
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: ten and ten Okay, but again, I'll bet you four

998
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: of those came in the first like four weeks of

999
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, twelve and twelve. Then that's best case, gage.

1000
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean his average his average yards per tempt were

1001
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: four point two. Great. Yeah, not worse obviously, but you

1002
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: probably expect a little more from every year. Yeah, you

1003
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: expect that a little bit more from him based on

1004
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: his history. Well, I see a lot of people saying,

1005
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, how he's running out of juice and all that.

1006
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: But I still have faith in him, Like I'm still

1007
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: I still think he can give you what you need,

1008
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, in order for you to have a successful

1009
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: balanced offense where the running game is working and where

1010
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: the passing game is working. He's the guy that It's

1011
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: just the oline was not helping him at all last year,

1012
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: and that's a big problem. They need to fix the

1013
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: O line, and I truly believe that if the old

1014
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: line is improved from what it was last year and

1015
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: can manage and handle their own game, Zeke will be

1016
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: able to get the job done, the job that you

1017
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: need to get done. I don't think he his game

1018
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: is far from being completely over. And I know that

1019
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: like quote unquote, like the life expectancy of a running back,

1020
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: it's pretty short. But I still think that he can

1021
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: give you a pretty good season this year. Do you

1022
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: buy into the PFF stuff, you know, the you know

1023
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: their grades and all that kind of stuff. I mean

1024
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes, I mean they had him as the number

1025
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: one blocking running back in the NFL. I don't doubt that. Yeah,

1026
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean we've seen not just not just saying you know,

1027
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: he's pretty good at it, I mean he's he's the

1028
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: best at it, which which you have to factor that

1029
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: in when you're like, why is Tony poll done on

1030
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: the field? And I think it's a simple approach to

1031
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: just say, if you want to if you want to

1032
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: pass block, put Zeke in, and if you want to

1033
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: run to the outside, put Tony in. It doesn't work

1034
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: like that. Those plays changed like that, So um, there's

1035
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: a reason why. There's a reason why Derek. There a

1036
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: reason why Zeke's on the field all the time. Yeah,

1037
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: there is. Because he's a good blocker, which like people

1038
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: people want to write that off so bad. They're like,

1039
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: I don't care, Like we need the more explosive player,

1040
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: and I get Look, I want Tony Poller to touch

1041
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: the ball more. I think it's insane that he doesn't.

1042
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: But I mean, I wish we could go back and chart.

1043
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I should. That would be a time consuming project,

1044
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: but like, how many throws has Dak gotten off because

1045
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: of what Zeke does in that department? You ever heard

1046
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: of christ episode of Training Camp? Dave got it. We're

1047
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna got it over to you, and you're gonna tell

1048
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: us he's I mean, he's great at and I mean

1049
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: the fun thing, like, we know exactly what Zeke's output

1050
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: looks like if everything's clicking the way it's supposed to.

1051
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: We've seen it. We've seen it plenty of times. Yeah,

1052
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,479
Speaker 1: twelve hundred yards and ten touchdowns. But he's twenty seven.

1053
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: He will be twenty seven by the time we get

1054
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: to ox and Ard. That's so funny that that he's

1055
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: carried that's old. I mean, you know, he's been planned

1056
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: since he was running back. I know, but it is,

1057
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: it is, and he's he's been He's almost he'll hit

1058
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: two thousand career touch this season if he stays healthy.

1059
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: It's a lot of my life. You mentioned in the

1060
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: blocking game and how he blocks and all that, Like,

1061
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: I think that that isn't a like a part of

1062
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: his game that people tend to forget. And I have

1063
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: so many plays like that. I vividly can remember where

1064
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: he just goes in and he's not afraid to block whatsoever.

1065
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: He goes in and sometimes he gets he just bounces back,

1066
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: but he gives it his all and it's enough, and

1067
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: it's like he really helps in that way, even though

1068
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't show in stats. Twice a game last season,

1069
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, that was really cool, but make

1070
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: sure you go back and look at the fact that

1071
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: it only happened because Zeke laid out in front of

1072
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: that guy he blocked. One of the most amazing plays

1073
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: he's ever made was when he took out two forty

1074
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: nine ers at once. I don't know if he did

1075
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: it on purpose, but he did it. Yeah, he got

1076
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: one guy with his upper body and like tripped the

1077
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: other guy. I don't remember what happened with the past,

1078
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: but Dak would have been mauled if he hadn't done it.

1079
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: Here's something that just off topic a little bit, but

1080
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 1: about in baseball. You know, they do a pitch count

1081
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: and they're like, everyone keeps up, Okay, this is his

1082
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: eighty third pitch. Well, he's thrown over the first seven times.

1083
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: He's He's opens up every inning with a couple of fastballs,

1084
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: so you can say he's pitched eighty three times. But

1085
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's the same with the running backs. I mean,

1086
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: he's got this many touches. You're not counting the seven

1087
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: collisions he had with their middle linebacker. You know, so

1088
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: that that goes through Like you said, Ambership, he is

1089
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: like he's not, I mean afraid of anything. I mean,

1090
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: he has always played with that fearless, you know, mentality.

1091
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: So the fact that this is his seventh year and

1092
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: we're still thinking he can be a you know if

1093
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: the thousand yard twelve hundred yard runner, I mean I

1094
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: think I think it's it's been pretty good. I mean

1095
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: he's had he's had a good career, but his contract

1096
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: calls for him to be a great player right now.

1097
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he can be great, but

1098
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: twelve and twelve would be pretty great for a running back.

1099
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: It would be, but it comes with a lot of concern.

1100
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean it, So you're counting on the dirt ability

1101
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: of a guy entering his seventh season who's been a

1102
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: work workhorse all seven seasons. Even the year he got suspended,

1103
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: he had two hundred and fifty carries. And how confident

1104
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: are we that the offensive line will be quote unquote fixed?

1105
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: So what do you think is the bigger issue? Do

1106
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: you think it's that there's been somewhat of a decline

1107
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: maybe in certain skills for Zeke, or do you think

1108
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: the bigger issue is the offensive line? If he gets holes,

1109
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: he can be up there with the very best running

1110
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: backs in the league. I thought he looked as good

1111
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: as he had since his rookie year through the first

1112
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: five weeks of last season. And it's not to say

1113
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: better than he was as a rookie, but as good

1114
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: like he had. He looked more explosive, he looked more decisive.

1115
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and I know, sorry, Nick, I know you

1116
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: can't do this, but like you, if you calculate his

1117
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: first six week numbers for the whole season, You're talking

1118
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: about thirteen to fifteen hundred yards like that's how he

1119
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: was playing. So I put it more on the offensive

1120
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: line too, because also when you look at look at

1121
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, that was the year before he got there,

1122
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: that offensive line was pretty good. I mean, Zach Martin,

1123
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith, Travis Frederick, they were really good offensive line.

1124
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: You're talking about Darren McFadden at the end of his career,

1125
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris at the end of his career. Still if

1126
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: the blocking is there, we saw those guys have some

1127
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: good games. I mean eleven hundred yards rushing for Darren

1128
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: McFadden at the very end of his career. So when

1129
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: that line is there, those guys can still block. I mean,

1130
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,959
Speaker 1: I think that's the bigger issue is that they took

1131
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: a bigger drop than Zeke did. That's how I see

1132
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: it too, where he's no longer the player that can

1133
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: like how he was at first, where he could create holes.

1134
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: If there wasn't one, he could just bust through there

1135
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 1: and make it happen. He's no longer that type of player.

1136
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: The way I see it, he's the type of player

1137
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: that does need the help from his teammates and the

1138
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: old line. So that's the biggest difference in my eyes

1139
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: at least, that he went from being the guy that

1140
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: could make it all happen all on its own and

1141
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: get even straight yards having like five man on top

1142
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: of him to being the guy that, Okay, now I

1143
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: do need a little help, like help me out. We're

1144
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: a team here. I was going to disagree with you

1145
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: a little bit, but then ever thought of Week one

1146
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: against the Bucks. Does rookie Zeke Truck that guy at

1147
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: the goal line when Jarwin misses his block and it's

1148
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: just him and some journeyman corner or that you've never

1149
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: heard of, like Zeke Truck's him and he didn't and

1150
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: I And that's that's just one example. But you're right,

1151
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 1: he does. He doesn't finish the runs like he would

1152
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: like he did before. But east, you know, he still

1153
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: need the holes. But you're right, he needs a little

1154
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: bit of help. There. They all that's the theme of everything. Yeah,

1155
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: help help the guys. Yeah, Like basically their team has

1156
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: to be better, is I guess what I'm hearing from

1157
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: all these three guys were talking about they need everybody

1158
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: around them to also, they need they need some jay

1159
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: Ron curses. That's what they need. They need three of

1160
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: those these. I didn't think he was going to be

1161
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: that good. They do. They know they need curse to

1162
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: be That's I'm not I think you're right. What's scary

1163
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: is like the track record of those guys not being

1164
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: Jayron Cursh's way longer than the track record of like,

1165
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: holy crap, the best player on our defense is the

1166
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: guy we signed for pennies like that, just the guy

1167
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 1: the guys that have to do it, or Tyler Beotis

1168
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: has to take that leap that Terren Steele did. James

1169
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: Washington has to be the guy that you know that

1170
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: he was maybe that his second year in his career

1171
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: and he's going to get opportunities. And then maybe somebody

1172
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: on defense, you know, just another guy like that. Maybe

1173
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: it's maybe Layton comes back and has a really good year,

1174
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: or maybe one of those eleven pass rush. Yeah. I mean, honestly,

1175
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: the list of the list of people that we need

1176
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: to show us more than what we've seen to this

1177
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: point is awfully alarming in my opinion. Honestly, I think

1178
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: he comes down to the offensive, like you mentioned Beyotish,

1179
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: but I think just as much like what we're talking about,

1180
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: was Tyler Smith gonna do? Can he be better than

1181
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: Connor Williams? If he could be especially in the Running Game.

1182
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: If he could be better than Connor Williams in the

1183
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: Running Game, your Running Game should be back on track,

1184
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: except you need Tyron Smith to stay health and guy.

1185
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: That to me is the big question mark that I

1186
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: don't think right now there's an answer for because I

1187
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: feel very I feel really comfortable saying I think Tyler

1188
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: Smith's gonna better than the Running Game than Connell Williams.

1189
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen at left tackle because

1190
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: I would bet money that he's not gonna play seventeen games.

1191
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: And if that's going to be the case, who's the guy,

1192
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: who's the guy that's gonna be out there at left tackle,

1193
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: who's gonna be protecting here, who's gonna be protecting your quarterback?

1194
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be the guy that's gonna be able to

1195
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: make things work like that? That's the part to me

1196
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: that I just don't know that there's a great answer

1197
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: for it, and I'm that's where I think most of

1198
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: their success offensively is going to come down to those

1199
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: two spots and what happens at those two spots, Tyansecky

1200
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: go get him, call him in August and say hey,

1201
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: we need you after all. I don't that's I don't

1202
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: know how bad is that. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, but

1203
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: it's you know, the best jokes are born out of

1204
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: some kernel of truth. Honestly, I'm betting on well, let's go.

1205
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping and praying that got him play. I'm

1206
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: hoping that's always the whole size. Well, then you see him.

1207
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you guys talked about

1208
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: it last week, but it's like he's literally one of

1209
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: the biggest guys on there. Okay, cool, but you know

1210
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: the big guys. Sometimes it just looked kind of like

1211
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: sloppy and like, yeah, so he I mean, I practiced

1212
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: last week. That's one of the things that I noticed.

1213
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: He's just a little wobbly. I don't know who was

1214
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: on the schedule top Heavy, and I don't know who

1215
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: was on the schedule for North Dakota. Yeah, but I

1216
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: there's no tank. Lawrence is probably on the other side

1217
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: of the line. And I mean, but he's gonna he's

1218
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: gonna face some of that a lot of that. See

1219
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: what the Buccaneers did yesterday, Yeah I did, and that

1220
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: that was I thought of you immediately, Dave, because you

1221
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 1: always those are the kinds of moves You're like, it's

1222
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: just it's a share m Hicks. Hicks one of the better,

1223
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: one of the better, big body Dca. He doesn't stay

1224
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: healthy all the time. But when he's healthy, him and

1225
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: Vita like, that's that. Good luck with that. I don't

1226
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: know how you're gonna handle those two in the middle

1227
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: of that defense. Well you don't. You don't mess with them.

1228
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: You times like they did and week one when the

1229
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys playing, when you suspect both of them are going

1230
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: to be healthy, that's gonna be a that's gonna be tough.

1231
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, every every player got got a

1232
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: little and they have they got some ego to him.

1233
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: We haven't seen a lot out of that out of

1234
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: Zach Martin other than one time this last year he

1235
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: was like, I'm I'm a right guard. That's what I am. Yeah,

1236
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: and I have no desire. I just wonder, I just

1237
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: wonder if if when in the game plan is we're

1238
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: not even gonna mess with these guys in the middle,

1239
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: if he's just like, dude, let me block the guy. Okay.

1240
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I know and Doma consumed he stomped his

1241
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: way around for ten year, twelve years, But I can

1242
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: block him, you know. I mean, I know he did

1243
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: it once, but I say that that's well, Okay, he

1244
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: was He's been a really good play really good. He

1245
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: wrecked that playoff games next to Aaron Donald. He was

1246
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: the one that was given problems. But I just think

1247
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: that I've said it before. I think I think they

1248
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: would have had a different game plan if Zach was

1249
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: in there. I don't think they go away from the middle.

1250
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: Speaking of what he did in that playoff game, would

1251
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: would that be the kind of move like, would you

1252
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: have the same kind of reaction that you had about Hicks?

1253
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: Would you have that same kind of reaction if the

1254
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys were to go out and get in Dominican sue,

1255
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: he's still sitting I think he's still sitting out there

1256
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: as a free agent, isn't he? Yeah, I signed. I

1257
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: would be very excited if the Cowboys signed a great

1258
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: player at an affordable price. What's not to love about that? Yes,

1259
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: I maybe thinking now, but I thought I thought I

1260
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: saw that he was still a free agent. He's still

1261
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: he's still which and I'm I mean Keem Hicks just

1262
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: took his spot in the Bucks lineup, So how about

1263
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean we we've heard whispers about heard whispers about

1264
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: the name Anthony Barr, Like there are still things they

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Speaker 1: could do that would make me happy. Yes, if a

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Speaker 1: Chiem Hicks was on this team, I'd be like it

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Speaker 1: was a pretty good call. Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah you

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Speaker 1: still it's June first, by the way, so that Lyle

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Speaker 1: money just hit the bank account, right, We're rich. Go

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Speaker 1: do something with it, somebody. It's not too late. You

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Speaker 1: got time to upgrade this roster before the game starts,

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Speaker 1: all right, to worry about the future, not this season.

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Speaker 1: There's only so much pie. I've been told that beforegging ahead.

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Speaker 1: Dak is supposed to me Dak is counting forty million

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Speaker 1: a year, and he has not counted close to forty

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Speaker 1: million a year no yet, So it's some pert he's

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Speaker 1: coming more than what you're saying is true. But that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean and Dama kinsou wouldn't want to play a

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Speaker 1: year here for six million dollars or I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much it would cost to get him, But there

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Speaker 1: there's ways they could improve this team if they really

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Speaker 1: wanted to. That's all I'm saying it. Then appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1: Joann Us will be back next week or these guys

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Speaker 1: will be back next week. I will not be here,

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Speaker 1: but you three will be better in that bak. Early, No,

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Speaker 1: I got to go out and talk to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Oh right right right, our NFL meetings. So all yeah,

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Speaker 1: the door, I'm gonna walk right up. We'll have a

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Speaker 1: seat and have some talks. So I'll be gone. You

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Speaker 1: guys will be here. We'll talk about the OTAs, and

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Speaker 1: then the final week of our shows will happen the

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Speaker 1: week following that, when mini camps are happening. We'll have

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Speaker 1: a lot to content that week. There will be interviews, players, coaches,

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So make sure you check

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Speaker 1: us out the next couple of weeks for Nickipman, Dave

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Speaker 1: helm and Amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagelton. This has

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Speaker 1: been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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