WEBVTT - Conversation About Cheaters 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.640 I think with men, right, when when we go out 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.680 and and and cheat, or when we're doing our stuff 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.119 like that, I think it's because of something wrong with us. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:14.360 Men will lie convinced themselves something is wrong with you 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:18.800 to make themselves feel better. It's been a long time 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:23.320 since we had a fucking engineer. Yeah you ran him off. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:27.880 He went that, kids said, he said, yeah, I'm not 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.520 coming back. Really he got something else going on where 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:35.000 he just uh, he was busy. But that's how I felt. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:36.479 I don't think he gave us an f you. I 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.159 just together the stuff to do. But what's crazy, right 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:44.879 is um, you get spoiled by having certain people. And 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.880 I was spoiled by having him. But when we did 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:51.320 the episode about Satan and uh and and God, I 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.680 noticed how destored it it sounded. So it's good having 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.520 to say it here to do the ship say getting 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:03.960 engineer and everything, saying the and all that. And finally, 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:09.200 the person we wanted to start the podcast with. We 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.720 always said she was gonna be like a monthly guest 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.200 because exactly it was like to have her come in 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.720 as a monthly you know, a voice, because you know 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.400 I would love her every week. But that's just not realistic. 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.240 So a monthly voice, you know, and as a sister 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.360 is dope because she's a therapist, all kind of fly 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.000 ship like that. So my dog Glenna from the beach man, 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:39.480 I'm sorry, hold up your professional named professional doctor. I know, 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:46.520 Glenna the loke. Let me telling people my secrets. Dot, 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.160 I sound like you got a low rider. Do the 0:01:52.240 --> 0:02:06.720 loke and the dog? No sillings feel mede it? You 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.799 know we're gonna figure it out. Yeah, it is all good. 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:13.280 We got time, um now fitnish telling me? So what 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:17.080 exactly do you know about the Bill Gates ship in bezos? Like? 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.320 What what's the rumor? Like? So obviously you ain't thank you, honey, 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.680 even though you white and he white. Naturally, you know, 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.320 we all think y'all know each other, which is racist, 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:35.520 but in simple you know, arithmetic based you know, population charts, 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.600 were a bit of a larger community, so it's harder 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.800 than know everybody. And when they have a team of 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.800 security as thick as those two gentlemen, it's very hard 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:48.480 to you know, intermingle. Would you hang with them if 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.560 you're could? I couldn't tell you. I don't know anything 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.400 about them, probably not Bill. Why would you not with 0:02:54.440 --> 0:03:01.560 Bill game? I think Bill's um bizarre personality, uh Bezels. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:05.160 I think it's just a monster, not in a bad way. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.320 He he's, like we were saying a second, he he 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.840 is a driven economic mind, mastermind. He's He's not a 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:17.520 guy who's stuck in an abstract world of code nerd 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.760 recluse type guy like Bill. He seems like a guy 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.680 who might be tiring to hang out with a long 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.440 time age, sleeps about seven minutes a week, but he's 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.360 probably pretty cool guy basil status beils. So what do 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.600 you know about the whole situation? Very little? I mean 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.960 from what you read, because I wouldn't read about From 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:42.440 what I understand, there was some cheating involved that got 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.360 to the point where it was time to go for 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.760 the wives, and I would be willing to bet that 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:55.800 the way the first one went probably gave the impetus 0:03:55.840 --> 0:04:00.320 for the second one to go. Mm hm did you 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.680 read about that? Just about the same that you know. 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.080 It's a whole lot of money, a whole lot of 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.920 assets being split up behind some cheating that they were 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.040 finally like, I'm not gonna do this anymore. And I 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.640 don't know really what the prenup situation was with Bill 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.080 because they got married. He had billions of dollars. He 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.480 didn't have a hundred, but he had like ten, which 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:27.600 is enough significant. So if somebody got a billion dollars, though, 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.400 wouldn't you expect them to have some bitches? Honestly, I 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.760 know that's that's a hard place to put you in 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.000 the corner, and I don't want to put you in 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.200 that corner. I'm just being honest. If somebody got billions 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.599 of dollars, you would think they would have women like 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.160 they would have some women. No, they don't. Even women 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.120 don't believe that. I don't even know that. It's that 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.640 we don't believe it. I think maybe even after a while. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.799 I don't know how long either of them were married, 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.440 but it wasn't a quick marriage, right something right, So 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:00.440 I think even after a while, it's like I'm still alive. 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.160 So I could be forty fifty sixty and I might 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.400 have another twenty thirty forty years ahead of me where 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.280 I don't have to wonder, are you out somewhere? Are 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.640 you gonna embarrass me? Are you gonna get caught up? 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:13.919 Is one of these women that you're messing with? Gonna 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.640 like go public and just embarrass the mess out of me, 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.200 So let me cut my houses in. So women, really 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:24.559 it's about embarrassments, you know. That's one that's especially one fact, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.080 and I don't want to speak for them. Would it 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:31.240 be worth something though, if you were specifically, say Bill 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:35.040 Gates's wife, to know that you had the luxury of 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:39.200 sitting back and having him sleep with women besides you 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.279 so that you didn't have to deal with it. It 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.800 depends on why you got married and why you're still married, 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.680 because if you got married for fidelity, that's not a luxury, 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.440 that's an insult, true. So it just it just depends, 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.039 you know, if if if you got married for love, 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.960 then you don't care about any of this. Split this up, 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:57.680 I don't care about any of it. But if you 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.440 got married as part of a transactional arrange meant well 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.880 then by all means you live your life. I'm gonna 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:09.799 live mine. Oh. I just would think if a dude 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:13.719 had a billions of dollars, and as a woman, I 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:18.640 would think like he probably got some women. I'd like 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.760 to think if you had those kind of resources, you 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:28.080 could suppress the news quote unquote, I mean you got 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:32.360 more money than King Henry the eighth, and there weren't 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.280 a lot of mistresses causing a lot of problems in 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:39.719 the kingdom during his reign. I mean you probably could, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.080 you know, manipulate the media, manipulate the women. I like, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.040 for example, Donald Trump had the contract with the with 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.719 the porn star. She came out whatever she had to 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.760 pay him. She's gonna die poor, Like she's gonna be 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:57.880 paying paying pieces of lawyer fees for the next forty years. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.440 Over that, we were just talking about Trump being the beast. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:06.800 Trump is a beast, that's like real beast. Trump is 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:11.760 such a beast, is scary. He has metabolized the caffeine 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:18.040 and diet coke with the trans fats and McDonald's hamburgers 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:24.400 and harnessed like cold fusion. It's unbelievable. That toxicity is 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:28.200 just the next level. Man. I love that dude, man like, 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.480 and it's not I genuinely love him, but I'm such 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.880 a fan of the tyrant he is because I'm a 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:39.080 tyrant myself. So to see it done at the highest levels, 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:43.120 like without a funk giving like he's the stingiest motherfucker 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.280 ever because he genuinely doesn't give a fuck, Like he 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.640 won't give one fuck. He come out with that fucked 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:54.160 up to pay at tire suit and be popping it 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.200 like he's the freshest nig out on the scene. Oh yeah, 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.360 his and his old lady be looking at me like 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.640 she like he looked at her like you know, like 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.120 his attitude is always like I never really thought he 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:07.760 was like a racist. I thought he was like a 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.840 mob boss. He always came across like a mob boss, 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.600 like I'm not gonna explain nothing to you. Who are you. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.040 I remember the time he was with his old lady 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:22.480 and and uh, I think he was supposed to hold 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.920 the door. He even hold the dude. I just just like, bro, 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.160 this dude is like the real deal. He doesn't have 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.120 time for that ship. It's like yo, walking the door, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.880 your arms work. But see not even that when we're 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.120 talking about like, well he got money, So she stays, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.440 I wouldn't be surprised if one day she was like, yeah, 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.920 I'm out, Well, there's already a proof of a proof 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:42.959 of concept with that in the form of us first wife, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.920 who the media is sprinted to to get any sort 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.199 of dirt on him. And she was like No, it's great. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:54.559 She was a player. She's got nothing to winner of 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:59.440 that years removed. But but I don't think he's just okay, 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.079 that's fun to be a lie. I ain't got tell 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:06.720 that lie. Um. I don't think he dogs her. I 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.320 think she loves the fact he's a tyrant. Well that's 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.240 that's what I'm saying. It depends on, like what was 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.960 the foundation of your marriage. If you like his money, 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:17.800 you like his power, you like the fact that he 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.080 come out with that trash to pay and he don't 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.360 care about nobody, and that's attractive to you, then by 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.720 all means open your own doors and live your life. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.480 Doesn't that kind of confident have to be attractive? Like 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.720 it's like a rooster. It's like five in the morning, 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.400 you know, everybody, Actually that's a great call because his 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.600 hair looks like the top of a rooster. And even 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.720 the slightest of breezes, like like it's like a rooster. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.160 You're crawling at five in the morning. Like if you 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.920 ever see a rooster crow, like at five four in 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.080 the morning, it's the most confident thing you ever see. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.679 It's like they clear, they throat, they position themselves and 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:59.960 they just like and they just let the whole fall 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.520 arm know what it is, and then they just stepped 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:07.559 down like, yeah, I did that. I like that kind 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:18.760 of confidence, and I think that you know what, But again, like, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.760 what's the foundation of why you got married? If you 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.319 got married because you wanted a certain lifestyle, but then 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.800 you're not so concerned about whether or not he's sweet 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.480 to you or hold your hand or holds the umbrella 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.400 over you. Some women don't care about that exactly, So 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.920 what's the basis? Whereas if you got married because you 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:36.719 want a companion or you want to be in love 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.800 with your best friend, but then you can keep all 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:43.000 that money. What happens behind closed doors means more to 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.680 me than your rooster crowing at five in the morning, 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.960 Yeah for sure. But like it's it's also personality and compatibility. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.000 Like I feel like a lot of times women want 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:58.079 the guy who's hard and soft simultaneously, Who's that's what 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:03.160 this and that never turned off heavy and light women want. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.440 I always say this marriage and theory should be like 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.480 a fairis will. Somehow women want to turn it into 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:13.840 a roller coaster. That's they like, that's what they do. 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.720 I know, Glenna is true. Maybe you you want to 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.120 do maybe not you. But women marriage should be like 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.840 a fairest will should be like a don't say maybe 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.720 not you. There's not a woman on earth that doesn't 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.840 apply to it whatever in real life. So I'm gonna 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:34.040 need you to be like roller coasters sense like roller coasters. No, 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.360 no more, I don't go old. Make this makes sense 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:41.520 because marriage should be smooth and steady, consistent to monorail 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.800 if not the fairest wi a fairest will. But because 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.559 as you get older, right, that fairs will. So when 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.680 you're a kid, right when you're a kid, the fairest 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.600 will is like the greatest ride in the world when 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.160 you're a little kid. Then when you kind of start 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.480 coming into like you know, teenage and ship like that, 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.600 that motherfucker is horrible. That it's the slowest ship in 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.440 the world. And then you become like your four flashed 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.800 teenager you're young adult, that motherfucker is dreadful. You only 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.440 find some solid cynic when you're like on a hot 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.040 date for me and you got a girl, and you 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.319 know that's when you're doing it. But it also so 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.199 it gets boring as you go through all your adult years. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.840 But as you get older, you know, you start seeing 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.280 like older people in the fifties and sixties, they own 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.520 that motherfucker and it is the time of their life. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.480 So I think that's how marriage. I think marriage starts 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.760 off as it's super exciting because you like learning somebody right, 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.880 and you just it's just this thing and you just 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:43.640 keep it going and eventually it gets born. You know, 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:48.160 you're like yeah, And for us, I think we look 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.360 at it like that, so we just okay with it. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:55.080 Somehow women want to turn that motherfucker into a roller coaster. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.080 As you think that, we insert certain things to create 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.439 it's citement subconsciously in the form of problems. Yeah, subconsciously. 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.160 There's a book that talks about that concept called The 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.360 Big Leap. It talks about the idea of people having 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.880 a hard time with stuff just being okay or just 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.520 really being happy and sabotaging and creating scenarios and non 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:21.040 certain type of issues and not happy content because happy 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.960 is so personal, you mean, content like things are going 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:26.599 good and women will be like, let me throw a 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.160 wrench in the mechanics. Is it fair to say that, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:35.480 like for men in a relationship, it's about the interpersonal 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.760 relationship is for women in the relationship. It's about the 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:44.520 lifestyle dynamic of the relationship, all right. So okay, so 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.520 some of it has in my opinion, personal opinion, some 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.800 of it has to do with everybody's attachment style, so 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.200 there's four different types of attachment styles. And then some 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.840 of it has to do with Masslow's hierarchy of needs. Right, 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.319 so your basic needs, food, clothing, shelter. Everybody has the 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.920 basic need for it, and you can't go beyond that 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:03.440 until your basic needs are met, Which is funny. I 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:07.160 told Pete this is how like in our community, because 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.240 we grew up so fragile and messed up in so 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:14.400 many years of oppression fracturesses. The concept of saving twenty 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.000 dollars a week to create true wealth in the long 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:21.160 term doesn't even seem realistic because the basic needs are not. Mad. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.080 It's so hard, but go ahead, I'm sorry, but so 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:28.080 that's that's exactly it. Trying to make sure that I 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:29.960 got like, I mean, you know, some hood stuff. It's like, 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:31.440 all right, I got a car, but I don't have 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.840 no gas money, and you can stay home and take 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.200 care of my kids. So we're gonna piece up you know, 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:37.880 you give me this, and then you give me that, 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:39.760 and we're gonna piece up and we're gonna make it work. Right, 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.360 So we're just trying to meet our basic food, clothing, 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.120 and shelter needs. If you grew up trying to meet 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.680 those needs, when you get become of age, like saying 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.480 your twenties, you try to enter into a relationship, you're 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.440 still trying to meet those basic needs. So if I'm 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.040 a woman and I'm trying to get my basic needs met, 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.560 then yes, a man with money is going to seem appealing. Yes, 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.880 it's like, oh my goodness, he gonna take care of me. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.520 He got this, he got that, And I'm like, okay, great, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.440 I'm gonna gravitate towards him. So that might work for 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.040 a period of time, but after a while, it's no 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.560 longer going to be enough. It's no longer about just 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.160 lifestyle as I started, because as you move up Maslow's hierarchy, 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.840 self actualization comes a couple of levels up. So once 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.320 we do stabilize, and I was like, well, wait, I 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.840 need this, I need affection, I need companionship. But I 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.560 didn't secure that I hear somebody that's gonna give me 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.400 a house. They just added ship on the list, but 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.920 I didn't. I have some stuff, you know what I mean, 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:35.760 Like just as a woman, it's like, oh, I didn't 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:37.960 even think to look at that because I was still 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:44.640 in crisis mode so much realize and then I wanted 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.640 so much of that. I didn't realize that I needed 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:52.360 the ship after that. That speaks to women's they're insatiable. 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:57.160 That's not fair. It's true, it may not be fair. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:04.680 Factual women are insatiable. Was a strong word. But all right, sure, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.680 that's that is a strong word. I have ran it 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:16.400 a good Yeah, I have ran into too many situations 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:23.880 where that is valid. I've never not mother, stepmother, grandmother, aunties, 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:28.520 big home girls, one in the room, ever heard of 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.160 a woman who didn't want something more at any given time. No, 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:37.440 it's always something more, see something or something I think 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:44.160 us we want something. Women want something more like. And 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.760 I don't mean because it's not negative or positive, right, 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:51.240 it's just creation. Yeah, I mean, and I probably could 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.720 figure out what it is, you know, based off of 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:59.520 how we were created and purpose. But sure you did 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:06.480 remember that. But okay, so but to that point, right, 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:11.000 so would you agree that women consistently want something more. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:13.879 I have a hard time with it being just women, 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.120 Like we could have this conversation that we can focus 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.640 on women, but the reality is it's men too, Like there, 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.480 I've heard of plenty of men that have either left 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.960 their wives or just not been content with the relationship 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.640 because it's like, yo, like, let's grow this relationship, let's 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.680 grow a business, let's take it to the next level. 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.040 And she's like, I thought we were good, Like I 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.160 married you because this is what you said you wanted, 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.679 So bet, this is what we're gonna live on. So 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.600 I don't don't man has left for woman because he 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.359 didn't want to start a business with her because he 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.840 wanted to start Well, just I'm just using that as 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.760 an example, but yes, that actual example has happened. I've 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.600 heard of men being like, yo, she's not affectionate, Like dude, No, well, 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:58.960 I mean that's something. Are those anomalous? What do you mean? 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:05.040 Are we attempting to just sidestep the reality of the 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:09.200 conversation by pointing out anomalous occurrences and defining the rule 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.239 by the exception. No, I wouldn't go as far as 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:13.840 to say that, and that's fair to even ask that 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.399 I wouldn't go as far as to say that, I 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.840 just don't think I'm not in all women all men 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.520 person just off top to begin with. So I'm never 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.639 going to say like, yes, all women are like this. 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.879 But we mean so when we say, oh, right, were 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:31.560 always referring to majority preponderance of I mean not not 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:36.480 seven out of ten, because you start going into other 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.000 things to figure out the other three. And then there's 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.879 the anomally the bell curve, everything that sticks up above 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.440 the first couple inches in the bell. That's what we're 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:52.040 talking about. So back to the digress. Right, So as 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.760 far as men how they see women, right, that's the thing, right, Um, 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.200 marriage should be like affair as well. Right, you enjoy 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.800 it when you first get on it, then you haven't 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.680 been on it long enough so it gets boring. Then 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:08.120 you find moments that you enjoy about it. Then as 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:11.960 you get older, you're glad you're on it. You won't 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.560 even think about a roller coaster. I mean that's not 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.639 even a possibility. At times you know you want to 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.800 abandon it. Um, So you're saying that you feel like 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.400 men are always content, like once they get into a relationship, 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:30.240 they're content um, if they're not emotionally stupid and getting 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.560 into the relationship in the first place. There's a lot 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.920 of men who are trying to get into a relationship 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:42.480 to appease temporary void or whatever. So they get into 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.760 a relationship because they just need a relationship, and when 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:52.120 the dust cells, they figure out this wasn't the right one. Um. 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:56.360 And that's true both directions. But that's that's I don't 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.040 I don't think that it's just women that all of 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.440 a sudden want to roller coaster. I think men make 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:02.359 that decision to That's what I was gonna say about 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.800 attachment style, About your attachment style when you come into 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:11.280 a relationship. There's four types of attachment healthy, avoidant, ambiguous, 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:15.080 and anxious and so depending on But I don't think 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:19.760 manly Ferris wheels for roller coasters. You don't think men 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.760 don't get into the relationship and realize, oh, I mean 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.080 I'm involving and realizing that I just want so much more. 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:29.480 It's like they go, fun, this isn't what I thought 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:30.840 it was gonna be. I know what I want, This 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.879 isn't it. And then and then they sneak off the 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.480 roller coaster. The Ferris wheel and go ride a roller 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.800 coaster and on the marriage side with the ferris wheel parallel. 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:44.399 I think marriage the lifestyle should be something like, at 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.520 least as adults. I don't want to go sit on 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.800 the ferris wheel by myself. I don't enjoy the ferris 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:52.280 wheel by myself, but sitting on the ferris wheel with 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.440 you makes it an enjoyable experience. So it's not quite 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.119 so much about the ferris wheel as it is about 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:03.359 the cooperative experience of the ferrest will where women need 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:08.360 the fucking experience and you're just there. I agree. What's 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.560 funny is I said that like a great marriage is 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:18.080 seven out of ten times is a woman trying to 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.760 discover who she is and finding a man that's gonna 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:25.720 hold the flashlight. And I know that sounds crazy because 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:31.000 men become like women are are ever evolving, right, there 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:36.280 always changing looks, right, They're always changing ideas. They want 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:39.480 a marriage to be exciting. I think we know it's 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:43.040 not exciting. I don't think men demanded to be exciting, 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:49.480 like and they may go find excitement, but the reality 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:53.800 is their wife could never present the excitement that they're 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:58.080 looking for because it's not really about excitement. It's about 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:01.440 things that's missing in themselves. What's the what's the difference. 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.000 So you're saying that women are ever evolving and they're 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:07.199 always looking for something else, right, So they're looking for 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.280 their husband to shine the lights so that they can 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:13.040 help them on their journey, whereas men like, Okay, I'm 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.320 okay until I'm not okay, and then I'll go ride 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.199 the roller coaster. Remember that the ferrest will is solid. 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:23.800 So what's the difference? Well, I think uh, I just 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:28.160 say that's a great point. The difference is man. When 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:33.359 men want something, it's like, Okay, I want something more. 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:37.080 I'm gonna go get something more. Women go, I want 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:46.120 something more, you go get me something more. Which one is, yeah, 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:50.760 what what is that wrong? They both say, we're all 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:52.960 saying that it depends on what the more is. I 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:57.120 don't genuinely think men want something more. I'm saying like more, 0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.600 not like more like another woman. I mean like no, 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.600 I'm saying even in the sense of another woman, it's 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.720 not something his wife is not doing right, That's not 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.480 why he cheats. Like that was something man Lenna talked about. 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.719 Men don't cheat because like if a man has convinced 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.240 himself he's cheating because his wife is not giving him head. 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.200 That's how he goes and get hit. That's not why 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.960 he's cheating, right, It's it's something that's going on side 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.119 your mind that makes you demand hit that you're not 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:28.639 addressing the same reasons you cheat on a woman. Excuse me, 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:32.159 the same reasons you sleep with women single is the 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:36.400 same reason you sleep with women married. Whatever that is. 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:41.160 That doesn't change because you're married, it doesn't. That part 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:45.000 doesn't change, But that don't change. You've already chosen affairs. Well, 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:48.399 you got problems within yourself. I think it's been you know, 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:52.800 men cheat based off insecurities, and women forever have been 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:54.880 sense of security for us, even though it's a false 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:59.399