1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: You know, j Mac you you are always very critical 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: of Barkley. You see he's complaining he's not getting on 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: the air anymore. ESPN buried that show. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 3: Why am I? Why am I critical of of Barkley? 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 3: He was critical of the league. Yeah, but what did 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: Barkley say? I don't think I saw He doesn't he 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: wishes he worked more. And my my feeling is this 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: is just conjecture, is that ESPN has a great relationship 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 3: with the NBA, and they said, yeah, we'll bring that 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: show over. 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: You won't see it as much. Put it on the 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: shelf a little bit, huh. 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: I mean that during football season? No, sorry, nobody's you know, 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: nobody's caring but NBA. From February, March, April, May, June. 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll be on a lot, right. I haven't 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: seen a second of it this season. I watched the games. 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, know I did. It felt very very 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: big at one time, and now it's invisible. So I 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: don't know. I you know, I'm just saying conjecture. But 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: I know there were people upstairs in the NBA office 28 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: that didn't like how they had lampooned the league and 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: some of the players. You've been talking to Adam Silver 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: there just I would say people upstairs didn't love Sometimes 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: they would say NFL shows don't make fun of the players. 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Why are we making fun of the players? I heard 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: that before Shelley. 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: That might have might have started here. 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm an originator. 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: Okay, what can we do? 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's just Charles is complaining. It's like 38 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: it feels obvious to me that you know, you have 39 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: these new deals and there's a lot of understandings that 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: don't have to be contractual. There's David Stern didn't like 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: when people were critical of the NBA either, that they're 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: very sensitive in the NBA. Remember I Adam Silver saying 43 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: my players are miserable Twitter. It just feels it feels 44 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: like it's a thing. But you know, you're right in February. 45 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: They could be on every night. We'll see J Mack with. 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: A news No, no, this is the herd line news 47 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: all right, shout out to our staff. 48 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 3: They keep finding these interesting nuggets. How about this one. 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: The New England Patriots in their franchise history, rich history, 50 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: zero to four in postseason games in Denver all time. 51 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: Now it's a line of four and a half. I'm 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: seeing some fours emerge in the desert. I'll have my 53 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: pick here shortly. There isn't an altitude situation in Denver 54 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: that has to be addressed. You know, New England has 55 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: looked they got fat and happy playing at home against 56 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: bad offensive lines. Will they look as good on the road? 57 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: I mean, now, maybe maybe anybody can look good against Stitty. 58 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: I can't believe we're calling him that. But this is 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: a big home field advantage for Denver. And I'm assuming 60 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: you think fifty two one hundred and eighty feet above 61 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: sea levels in edge for the Broncos. 62 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: Right, Well, I think if you have a quarterback that 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: hasn't played in two years, I'm going to and who 64 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: isn't as athletic. You know, bo Nicks picks up some 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: first downs with his legs. My guess is New England 66 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: will get an extra possession in this game, maybe a 67 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: little deal position edge because the Denver offense isn't quite 68 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: as consistent, isn't quite as potent, and that gives you 69 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: a little field position edge, which in these playoff games 70 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: that is huge. Also, Denver's defense gets a lot of sacks. 71 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't consider it close to Seattle. I don't think 72 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: it as good as the Rams. I don't think it's 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: as Philadelphia's. I thought, no, I mean to be honest 74 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: with you, I thought the Bears the last six quarters 75 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: were defense. We're doing it with smoking mirrors. I think 76 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Denver's defense there's there's ways, there's ways to move the 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: ball in Denver. Josh Allen, by the way, they weren't 78 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: punting a lot. 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: They didn't punt at all. 80 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: I am curious, like, I don't know how you game 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: plan for Stidham. It's you're the Patriots again. He hasn't 82 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: thrown a pass in the NFL in two seasons. I mean, 83 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: if they come out with three tight ends, that might happen. 84 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: If they come out I think you in play here. 85 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: I think you look at Sean Payton's schemes and Sean 86 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Payton's habits and you just you scheme against it. My 87 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: take is they're good. They're not going to reinvent the offense. 88 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Stidham is somewhat athletic, he can move and 89 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's a little bigger version maybe 90 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: a bow Nicks, not as talented. But my guess is 91 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna run the same offense. I just don't think you'll. 92 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't bow Knicks takes off running more than Stidham would, 93 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: but I think he'll run a lot of the offense. 94 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna ship It's too late in 95 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: the season. You don't have enough practice time. We're gonna 96 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: install some new No, you're not. You're just you're gonna 97 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: play what you do. You're gonna do what you do 98 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: and and hopefully Stidham can make you know because bow 99 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: Knicks had two huge downfield throws for touchdowns instead of 100 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: give you a couple. If he does, you may win 101 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: the game. I mean, the line's only four. 102 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: Let's move on to a team that stinks. The Miami Dolphins, Colin. 103 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: They are in a rebuild mode. Tua was benched for 104 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: Quinn Ewers over the final three weeks of the season, 105 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: but he's still under contract. At the Dolphins press conference yesterday, 106 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: new GM john Eric Sullivan, I acknowledge that the team 107 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: is still undecided about what to do at quarterback moving forward. 108 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Tua. He's a 109 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: good football player. 110 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: He's accomplished a lot in this league. I think, whether 111 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: it's whether it's two or anybody else, it's unfair and 112 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: irresponsible for me to sit up here and talk about 113 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 4: anything specific before I've talked to the player himself. 114 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: That's fair, that's a reasonable answer. I mean, you've got 115 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: the draft in ninety days, so I mean you're you're 116 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: going to take a quarterback at some point, maybe second 117 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: third round maybe may listen, that wouldn't mean where's Miami drafting? 118 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: Not high enough to not high enough to get Mendoza happily. 119 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: Look very serious there. I mean, he looks like he 120 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: just got a haircut, looks like he's going to basic 121 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: training about I mean, he is. Do you see Let 122 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: me do that, guy, Let me throw this at you. 123 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: Rams have like what Atlanta's pick number eleven or something 124 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: like that. Rams move up and get Ty Simpson because 125 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: they still have another number one pick where they can 126 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: address corner and offensive tackle. Their real needs are offensive 127 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: tackle and corner. Quarterback they could get next year, and 128 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: the Rams in the buildings say, listen, we view him 129 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: as about the twenty third best player. We have two picks. 130 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 1: Let's reach on ty Simpson and then we'll just get Stafford, 131 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: another tackle, another corner, another receiver. I mean, I can 132 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: see a team like the Rams saying we're not going 133 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: to have two first again. We've only had one first 134 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: round pick in nine years. Jared Verse, I mean, I 135 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: think it's very interesting. The Rams are one of the 136 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: few really good teams that are drafting in the top fifteen, 137 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: like really special teams. Do you wait, you say to yourself, 138 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: we have him as like the twenty third, but we're 139 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: not going to be in this position again because next year, 140 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: if you say to yourself, no, let's get a tackle 141 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: and then a corner, do you know what the Rams 142 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: are going to have to do to get up into 143 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: the top two quarterbacks next year? Give up multiple first 144 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: So it could be the Rams are too good. So 145 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: my take is, reach on the quarterback. Now you're not 146 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: gonna play him. Stafford comes back for a two year deal. 147 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: He plays one, maybe they move off him. But I 148 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: think it's very interesting what the Rams do with that 149 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: first pick they don't get. They rarely have first round picks. 150 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: Now they have two. If they don't get a quarterback. Now, 151 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: look at what the Rams are going to do drafting 152 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: thirty at the following year to get to the seventh pick. 153 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: Two ones, two two's. You got your draft capital. 154 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: So you know, I've been pretty plugged in on Stafford 155 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: and Rams here last few years. Gave everybody the pukah 156 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: stuff and the ugly contract you did. So I did 157 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: ask my people. I said, hey, so if Stafford wins 158 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, is it over? And they're like, uh uh, 159 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: he's cooking he wants to play again. I wonder if 160 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: that changes Colin. If he wins a super Bowl and 161 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: his wife's like, listen, come on, you go out on top, 162 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: like yeah, way, maybe he changes his mind. But if 163 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: they lose this game, I would say he's definitely coming 164 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: back next season. I just I don't see a trade 165 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: up for Tysimpson. I personally think we're overrating him because 166 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: there really aren't a lot of attractive quarterbacks after Mendoza. 167 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: Do you really believe Tysimpson's the guy like top what 168 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: he picked. 169 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if your scouting department, the Rams 170 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: scouting department's good, finds him to be like the twenty 171 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: fourth best player in your draft and whatever they're drafting, 172 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: I could see them saying, guys, in one year, there 173 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: are better quarterbacks potentially. We don't know. We thought cave 174 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: Klutnick was going to be great this year. We thought 175 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: nus Meyer was going to be great. They weren't. We 176 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: didn't think mendo I mean before the season, do we 177 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: think Mendoza was going to be an easy number? We 178 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: thought it was like arch Manning Dane More. You just 179 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: don't know. 180 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: Let me ask what about we just mentioned Tua? Could 181 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: you see Tua fitting with. 182 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: The La Rams? C? J. Stroud? 183 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 5: Yes? 184 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: All right, final story, Let's go to Robert Salah. Everybody 185 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 3: likes him defensive coordinated with the Niners. Didn't really get 186 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: a good chance with the Jets because of Aaron Rodgers. Anyways, 187 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: he had a lot of interest from folks and he 188 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: ultimately picked Tennessee. Here's what Sala had to say for me, 189 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 3: this was the most desirable location, the most desirable team, 190 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 3: the team here are. The people here are unbelievable. They're 191 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: a type of people you want to work with. I'm 192 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: really excited about the city of Nashville and bringing a 193 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: winner back to the city. You know, they call it 194 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: nash Vegas. I think there's a world here where Sala's 195 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: pretty damn good pretty quickly. Colling, we're believers in cam Ward. 196 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: We both liked him. They just have to, you know, 197 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: they got some cap money, cap space to spend. Yeah, 198 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: they were three and fourteen. Offense wasn't great, defense wasn't great, 199 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: but they have a couple pieces in place. I think 200 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 3: this is a good good spot for Sala, So do. 201 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: I I think. I mean, listen, it's been kind of 202 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: a wonky political job through the years. I mean, I 203 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: let Vrabel go. 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Let's come of them the chase. Who do 226 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: you have gotten? Why? 227 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: Well? I like Seattle. I like Seattle. I like their defense. 228 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 5: I know what Matt Stafford did the last time they played. 229 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 5: He threw for four hundred and fifty yards just a 230 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: month ago, so that's on tape. But you know the 231 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 5: Seattle I mean Stafford didn't make a mistake in that game. 232 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 5: He was unbelieva. Well yeah, all the way to the 233 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 5: touchdown throw, the Puka Nagua and how they attacked him. 234 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 5: I mean, it's smart to what they did. Seattle tried 235 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 5: to blitch. Every time they blitzed. He carved them up. 236 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 5: But it's a different game. It'll be played differently. They 237 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 5: know they've got to get to Stafford, which they didn't 238 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 5: do the last time, and so I think it will 239 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 5: play be played differently. But I like Seattle. I just 240 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 5: you know, San Francisco, if they had the ball ten 241 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 5: more times, they wouldn't scored a touchdown against Seattle. And 242 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 5: so that's just where they're playing right now. There. It's 243 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 5: an elite group. I think defense wins championships, and I 244 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 5: think their defense will be up to the task. 245 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: What Stafford, You liked him when he was in Detroit. 246 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: Everybody likes him now. I said this earlier. It sounds crazy. 247 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: I said, if he wins two Super Bowls, I'm putting 248 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: him right next to Aaron Rodgers all time. And I 249 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: think Aaron's a top twelve quarterback. Stafford's on a seven 250 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: and two playoff heater, and I could argue out of 251 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: his prime. I feel like his first NFL family was dysfunctional. 252 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: He got adopted by the Rams and he's been arguably 253 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: the second best quarterback the mahomes in the league during 254 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: this period. 255 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: Is he not. 256 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 5: Well? I mean, I mean he just needs another back 257 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 5: condition in training camp next year, where he just sits 258 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 5: there in moth balls for six weeks and then comes 259 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 5: out and just balls out. I mean the Rams used 260 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 5: to do that with Jackie s Later. Jackies later used 261 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 5: to say every year, I don't go to training camp. 262 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 5: I did two more years out of my career. And 263 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 5: I always say this, Tom. I know it sounds kind 264 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 5: of silly, but you play as long as you can 265 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 5: and then two more years, and I figure that's what 266 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 5: Stafford is going to do. 267 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, do you trust Darnold? Where are you on Donald? 268 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: When you look at the film more, you know, you 269 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: look at it uniquely. You're a former player. Do you 270 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: trust Donald implicitly? 271 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 5: Well, it really depends on what the defense is doing 272 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 5: to him when he's under siege. He makes mistakes, like 273 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 5: a lot of quarterbacks, Like we just saw C. J. 274 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 5: Stroud and you know we saw Drake May. They made 275 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 5: mistakes when they were under siege last weekend. The thing 276 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 5: is this team and it is a real team, Colin. 277 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 5: Being around that team, you can feel it. They know 278 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 5: that they wouldn't be where they're at without Sam, and 279 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 5: they feel like they're good enough to overcome if there 280 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 5: are mistakes, and I feel that's where Seattle is right now. 281 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,359 Speaker 5: I think as a team they're good enough to overcome 282 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 5: a mistake or two, whereas a lot of other places 283 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 5: they're just especially in a championship setting, they're not good 284 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 5: enough to overcome. 285 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: So Drake May has had some mistakes, four touchdowns, five giveaways. 286 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: Now it is the Texans and the old line is struggling. 287 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: But Nick Bonito on the edge for Denver should be 288 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: a problem. Zach Allen could be a problem. I I 289 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: contend New England still a draft away. They're the only 290 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: team left that has they're they're they're almost done with 291 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: a rebuild, but they just need to fortify their linebacking cord, 292 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: their offensive line. When you watch Drake May, of all 293 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: the things that you look at Baldy and go as 294 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: a former offensive lineman, Wow, that's good for his age. 295 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: What impresses you most? 296 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 5: I mean just an overall poise that he played with, 297 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 5: Like that touchdown to Stefon Diggs is not an easy throw, Colin, 298 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 5: that is a stick throw. It's a great catch by Diggs, 299 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 5: but it's bracket coverage. It happened fast, it was an 300 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 5: important play. They finished the drive like that throw, and 301 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 5: that spot is huge. It looks like, okay, you go 302 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 5: back and play stakes. It's a you know, seven yards. 303 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: That was a difficult throw. He makes difficult throws look 304 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 5: routine and that's that's impressive. But you can't you can't 305 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 5: rattle them. I mean Will Anderson got the ball out 306 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 5: of his hands a couple of times. Will does that 307 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 5: so a lot of players. He never looks rather and 308 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 5: part of it is because of how Josh McDaniels coaches 309 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: him all week long, like he looks prepared for whatever 310 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 5: was coming next. 311 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, John Harbaugh goes to the Giants. All the 312 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: years you've been watching Harbaugh on the Ravens teams in 313 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: the trenches, you're watching O line play. I'm not watching 314 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: O line play. You're watching the stuff differently. What sticks 315 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: out to you if I said to you, oh, it's 316 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: a John Harbaugh team, the Giants will be a John 317 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: Harbor team. What defines his coaching to you? 318 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 5: Well, I think there's a toughness, Like I'll tell you 319 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 5: a quick story, tol I remember when John got there 320 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 5: and they were led by Ray Lewis and Edried, I 321 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 5: mean Hall of Fame players, And I was out of 322 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 5: practice one day in training camp. John Madden was there. 323 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 5: He had his cruiser out there. It was a big deal, 324 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: a strimmage and literally together Ray Lewis and Edred came 325 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 5: up to me and go, You've got to talk to 326 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 5: this guy for US ball. He's killing us. 327 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: So I did. 328 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 5: I went up to John after. I'm like, your two stars, John, 329 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 5: are really complaining about how hard things are. He goes, 330 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 5: that's fine, that's fine, Baldy. He goes, I'm trying to 331 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 5: get these younger guys ready for December and January, and 332 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 5: we got to train them this way now, Ray And 333 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 5: if they need to get out of the drill, they 334 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 5: know how to get out of the drill. If they 335 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 5: got to save themselves for the season, they know how 336 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 5: to do that. But I got to get my guys ready. 337 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 5: And so you go out to a John Harball training camp, 338 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 5: you feel like it's in the eighties, Like it's guys 339 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 5: are taking their shoes off because they sweated through the 340 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 5: shoes in training camp as they walk off the field, 341 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 5: like he trains them hard, and when you win, nobody 342 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 5: really complains. And so he's going to get these younger 343 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 5: guys and new guys that there's going to be a 344 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 5: way that they practice and that's where it's going to start. 345 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 5: The other thing i'd say is I know John since 346 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 5: he was a special teams coach in Philly. He said, 347 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 5: two of the great kickers in the NFL, the Jonatans 348 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 5: have had kicking issues forever. They will get that fix. 349 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: Randy Brown will be a kicking coach, They'll find a kicker, 350 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 5: they'll develop the kicker and that problem will go away. 351 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 5: And as we know, if you're kicking issues, keep like 352 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 5: it's a problem. They'll get that part fixed as well. 353 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: Great point. Finally, Sean McDermott's out. I liked him, but 354 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: I did think they kept lose. They kept finding ways 355 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: to lose. Thirteen second game, couldn't get the Tousch push right, 356 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: bo Nicks beats him down the field twice. You know, 357 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: in the six playoff losses, they gave up thirty three 358 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: a game. Some of it maybe personnel, you tell me, 359 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: is Buffalo's defensive personnel bad? Or I mean they gave 360 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: up a lot of big games. 361 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, now, look, I mean, teams run the ball against him. 362 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 5: Everybody said, every analyst out there said, you can run 363 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 5: the ball against Buffalo. Now, then they played. They try 364 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 5: to plug a bunch of rookies in there, Dan Walker, 365 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 5: some of these guys Sanders. They put young guys in 366 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 5: there that take up a lot of space. But they 367 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 5: never really fixed it. It was always an issue in 368 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 5: big games. Teams could run the ball against them. Look, 369 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 5: I mean, the order could do whatever he wants to do. 370 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 5: It's about winning championships. And if you don't feel like 371 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 5: you keep getting there, you keep getting the postseason, but 372 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 5: you can't get over the hunk of some of these 373 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 5: other teams, sometimes as good as Sean McDermott was, and 374 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 5: winning in a week Division, all the stuff that they've done. 375 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 5: At some point you say, let's try a different guy. 376 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: You know, let's let's see what you know. Mike Fragel's 377 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 5: coming in. He might get his team to the super 378 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 5: Bowl in the first first year. Liam Cohen turned the 379 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 5: team around right away, won a playoff game. At some point, 380 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: you just go, let's try something else. 381 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: By the way, you were in the eighties, you were 382 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: in an NFC championship game, what do you remember about it. 383 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: I remember that when you played Washington and they play 384 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 5: you know, I know we're in a different world, but 385 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 5: when they play Hail to the Redskins after they score, 386 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 5: that song never leaves you calm, like you hear that 387 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: in your sleep. Thirty years later, hal to the Redskins 388 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 5: losing an RFK stadium like that after we whipped them 389 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 5: during the regular season and then they went on in 390 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 5: Super Bowl that year. Like that was Joe Gibbons's first 391 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 5: team that won a Super Bowl. That's you get that 392 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 5: close and you can't get done. 393 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: It stays with you a long time great senior Baldi. 394 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks, Don, enjoyed the games this weekend, buddy. 395 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: You bet seventy. It's interesting when you talk about that. 396 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: That was in the early eighties. I grew up in 397 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties when I fell in love with sports, 398 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: and Washington was unbelievable. I mean, I remember they would 399 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: always talk like summer all and the Brookshire or something 400 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: like his part. They were say like, oh, it's a 401 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: forty two year waiting list for season tickets, like they 402 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: were on TV. That was my favorite team when I 403 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: was When I was young, they were on TV every 404 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: week honestly, like like the Eagles are now, or the 405 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: Niners are now, like those Washington teams were great for 406 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: so long, and then you know, it's amazing what bad 407 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: ownership can do. Jmack. He is ready to roll a 408 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: couple bumpy weeks. He's back though, next The Herd. 409 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 410 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: and Noone Eastern, Non a em Pacific on Fox Sports 411 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 412 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: Two games left and then the Super Bowl. A lot 413 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: of questions. J Mack thinks he has the answers to 414 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: all of them. We like to call it tomorrow's headlines 415 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: today Patriots at the Broncos. What is the headline? Jmack, 416 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: You're right. 417 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: Colin, I have the answers, the answers to the tester 418 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: right here. The headline for Patriots Broncos. Can't wait for 419 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: it will be armed pat stains Broncos lose bo but 420 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 3: Ad Stidham stink. I'm gonna go with the Patriots here 421 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: winning on the road, but a close one. I did 422 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: just bet the Denver Bronx goes to cover the spread, 423 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 3: But I gotta go with the Patriots. I don't know 424 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: that Sidham could pull off the win, but Colin, I 425 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: do think the element of surprise here from the Denver 426 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 3: Broncos and Sean Payton is something that I don't think 427 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: the Patriots can prepare for. I do think this is 428 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: one of these Sean Payton games. Hey, people doubted me. 429 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: They thought I had Drew Brees and a superstar. You 430 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: watched it. I'm gonna cook up and I think he's 431 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: got some interesting stuff here. Fun stat that I dug 432 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: up so Peyton with backup quarterbacks in his career fourteen 433 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: and seven against the spread. Now, a lot of that 434 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: was Teddy Bridgewater in New Orleans, but I do remember, 435 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: you know, when the starter goes out, you got to 436 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: go to the backup. A lot of people want to 437 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 3: fade backup quarterbacks, not against Peyton. He's a really good 438 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: x's and o's guy and a schemer. I just don't 439 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 3: know if their offense is going to be enough to 440 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 3: keep up with May and Drake May is fascinating, Colin. 441 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 3: I think we talked about it earlier this week. So 442 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: he was the number one quarterback in EPA this year, 443 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: one of the more important stats. But EPA Ding's quarterbacks 444 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: who were sacked a lot. Drake May was sacked the 445 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: second most in the league after Herbert, So you're like, 446 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: how does that work? So what he's doing, he's like 447 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: a Texas hold him gambler, right, he's taking sacks, but 448 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: he's countering with huge plays like he's. Nobody hits explosive 449 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: plays like Drake May. However, of course Denver gives up 450 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: the fewest explosive plays with this great defense, and the 451 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: pass rush led the league in sacks. It's a really 452 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: interesting x's and o's matchup. The question is can stit them? 453 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: And they're gonna need to do it early. They can't 454 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: come out and go like three and out or punt 455 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 3: on the first couple drives, then it's probably over. I 456 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: think Denver keeps it close early and we're looking at 457 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 3: like twenty seven to twenty three Patriots. 458 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: Game of the Year. Tomorrow's headlines today Seahawks hosting the 459 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: Rams one for the Ages. Jmack, what's the headline? 460 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 3: Remember my first year on the show, I doubted the 461 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: Seahawks could make a playoffs. Had to shave something in 462 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: the side of my head. That was fun. Well, the 463 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: headline for Rams Seahawks. Here will be Sama Rama, Ding Dong, 464 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 3: Darnald ditched off, playoff, Porch Garry, the Rams and Chris 465 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: Us defense going into Seattle and pulling off the upset. 466 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: I like the Rams to win this out right, Colin. 467 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: This is such a great matchup. So there is some 468 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 3: negatives for the Rams besides the fact that they played 469 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: an overtime game last week, their defense was on the 470 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: field for eighty one plays, right, and they have a 471 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: day less because Seattle played on Saturday. 472 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: No question that worries me a lot. 473 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: That's a big one. But this is one of my 474 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: big counters, Colin. I'm not hearing anybody talk about it. 475 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: We haven't touched it. Okay, the starting left tackle for Seattle, 476 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 3: his backup, and the third stringer all misspractice Wednesday and Thursday. 477 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: You're left tackle going against Jared Verse. All of them 478 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: misspractice this week. Now there's hope that the starter is 479 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: able to play, but the backup plan, according to Seattle insiders, 480 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 3: is oh, we'll move grey Zabel, our guard out to 481 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: left tackle like the Bears did with Joe Toney last. 482 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: Week, and Tuoney did great. 483 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: Colin, Toney's a veteran All Pro Greys Abel's a rookie. 484 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 3: Now he's going up against Jared Verse and compounding matters, 485 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 3: you got the Zach Charbonnay injury. He's their best blocking back. 486 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: You keep him in the backfield to block against the blitz. 487 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker can't block anybody now. Kenneth Walker's explosive on 488 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: runs and pass catching. But I'm just telling you this 489 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 3: Rams defense with Chris Shula, I'm just blown away by 490 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 3: how good he is. I'm on record, I think he's 491 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: gonna be the next Pittsburgh Steelers coach. I think it's 492 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 3: able to be a phenomenal higher He's gonna get a 493 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 3: job in this cycle. He has done masterful work against 494 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, by the way, against Sam Darnold in the 495 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: last three games, Chris Shula's defense seven interceptions, thirteen sacks. Now, 496 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: one of that was when he was with Minnesota in 497 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 3: the playoff game and Shula just had him seeing ghost 498 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 3: sacked him nine times. But I like the rams here, 499 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: Devonte back Dotson full go give me the rams of 500 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: McVeigh winning. 501 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, Let's talk about a couple of these 502 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: new coaches. Oh Harbaugh the Giants. Let's see what Max J. 503 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: Mag has to say, the team he hates the most. 504 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 3: Obviously, the show's fun when we agree, right, but it's 505 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: also fun when we disagree. The headline for that New 506 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 3: York Giants next season will be big Blue Swede shoes. 507 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 3: New York Royalty is still waiting to be king. I'm 508 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: sorry there will be no playoffs, Colin. I'll give you 509 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: eight wins, maybe nine, But I have looked at the 510 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: opponents now. The schedule order is not out yet. This 511 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: is one of the toughest schedules in the league. Seven 512 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 3: of their seventeen games against playoff teams. Okay, at home 513 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: they get San fran and Jacksonville. You know timing will matter. 514 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: Jacksonville going to New York in December could be big. 515 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: These are a couple of their road games at Seattle, 516 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: at the Rams, at the Texans, and I can't read 517 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: my handwriting on the other one, but they basically have 518 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 3: brutal at the Eagles. Obviously they have the home and 519 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: away count. This oh Houston is the final game. This 520 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: is going to be a very tough schedule. He's got 521 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: to work out some kinks with the offensive line, it's good. 522 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 3: I'm not willing to call it great. You know, scam scattaboo. 523 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: Are we really banking on him being like a difference 524 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: maker like a Barkley or Stemac. I think we need 525 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: to pump the brakes a little bit. Eight or nine wins, 526 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 3: second or third in the division. What are you laughing at? 527 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: Okay? 528 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: Cowboys, cowboys, Washington? Who's in the cellar in the NFC East? 529 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: Not going to be the Giants? 530 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 5: Well? Who? All right? 531 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today? Well, what about Stefanski and the Falcons. 532 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: Let's say, you. 533 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: Man, I can't quit these damn Falcons call it. I mean, 534 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 3: you know you laugh at me every week. I bet 535 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: on them. So now they bring in Stefanski, two time 536 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: Coach of the Year, the headline for Kevin Stefanski and 537 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 3: the Falcons will be NFL New Falcon League Falcons put 538 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 3: the fun in step Funski. Oh yeah, baby, Michael Michael 539 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: Pennick's returns. Listen, I'm just telling you this. Bjon Armstrong, 540 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: Drake London Combo. That's one of the best receiver running 541 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: back combos in the league. I looked at their free agents. 542 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: They're not losing many dudes. A couple older guys. Kyle 543 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 3: Pitts is the one to watch. Do they tag him? 544 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: Do they bring him back? He'll have interest from the 545 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: Chiefs and others. I just the real reason I like 546 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 3: this team is that the Falcons defense really shit owed 547 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: up this season. 548 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 5: Colin. 549 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 3: They got very good. Remember that win over the Rams. 550 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 3: At the end of the year. The kid Pierced they 551 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 3: drafted out of Tennessee showed well. I think this is 552 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: the division winner, clearly. I know the Saints have improved, 553 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: and you like Carolina and Baker Mayfield's over here talking 554 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: trash on Twitter. Give me Stefanski and the Falcons to 555 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 3: win the division. 556 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: Okay, finally, Buffalo Bills still in the middle of their 557 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: coaching search. Tomorrow's headlines today, I'm told you have a 558 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: sixth mystery headline. 559 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we're trying to keep that a secret Buffalo Bills. 560 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: You know, I said they're Super Bowl windows closing. You 561 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 3: couldn't brush that off fast enough, like it was a 562 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: garbage stake. The headline for Buffalo will be the day 563 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: Bowl is in the details, hot seat finds cold comfort. 564 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: I like Brian dabol to go back to Buffalo on 565 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: this Philip Rivers stuff. Is this misdirection? What the hell's 566 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 3: going on here? Seems goofy. I do think the dayble 567 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 3: fit is good. My only concern is is that viewed 568 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: as too safe of a call. Hey Josh, it worked 569 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: with Josh, Let's bring him back. Do they need to 570 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: go away from the quote unquote family. But I think 571 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: Dabele is a really sharp offensive mind. I'll remind people 572 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: Jackson Dart didn't do it by himself. 573 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 7: This year. 574 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: Jackson Dart emerged and Brian Dabel had him kind of 575 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: rolling on offense. Remember they went and hung thirty two 576 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: on the Broncos in Denver. I think Dable's a sharp mind. 577 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 3: I think Dabel will be good with Josh Allen. I 578 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: just I don't think they're ever going to get to a. 579 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, all right, I'd be disappointing. Yeah, good stuff. 580 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady speaking of good stuff was on for twenty 581 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: minutes earlier. It was funny because I was writing this morning. 582 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: I was looking at the Seahawks rams the ten best players, 583 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: and it is remarkable. You get to like Kobe Turner 584 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: at eleven and Devonte Adams at fifteen. I mean, Leonard 585 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: Williams Murphy the defensive tackle. I mean, Seattle is just 586 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: These teams are incredible. I mean the Rams literally have 587 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: two great interior defensive linemen. You got Young and Jared 588 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: Verse on the end, But it was the offense last 589 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: week that was virtually perfect. You know you're not no turnovers, 590 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: no drop passes. 591 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: Can I remind you DeVante Adams led the NFL in 592 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: receiving touchdowns and you had him behind Kenneth Walker. 593 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just I'm just telling you, I Quentin Lake, 594 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: if you were banged up for a stretch, it was 595 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: hard for me to put you on. And Davante's I 596 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: love Davonte and that dude takes shots. 597 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: I mean I started going in winning his first NFC 598 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: Championship game. He's zero and four. This is his fifth trip. 599 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: He's got to get to a super Bowl. We need 600 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: Davonte in the Super Bowl. I mean, that guy's a stud. 601 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm projecting a big game from Adams. Here's Brady on 602 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: the Rams momentum going into this game. 603 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 7: You give the Rams coaching staff so much credit for 604 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 7: a performance like that in Chicago last week. You're talking 605 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 7: about a team that probably had a seventy degree temperature 606 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 7: difference from leaving LA to landing in Chicago. That lack 607 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 7: of penalties, obviously, no turnovers, and the drop passes, that's 608 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 7: just I'm very jealous of receivers that don't drop balls too. 609 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 7: By the way, that's a great stat for any quarterback. 610 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 7: But they're doing all the right things. This is a 611 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 7: surgical offense. They have so many weapons. Everybody touches it. 612 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 7: You've got to account for everybody. They have a precise 613 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 7: passing game, they have a ball control offense. There's a 614 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 7: lot of ways the Rams can win too. 615 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's their special teams are a little dicey. It's 616 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: it is. It's just incredible. These two organizations out West 617 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: have just drafted the hell out of April. God, they 618 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: just I mean the Rams. Puka is a fifth rounder, 619 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: Kyron Williams is a fifth rounder. I mean, they have 620 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: a they have a sixth round receiver in Jordan Whittingham, 621 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: seventh round receiver from Pittsburgh. They're left tackles undrafted. Landman 622 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: was undrafted when he was at Atlanta. You know, you 623 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: know is a first rounder. Matt Stafford was a number 624 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: one pick. The Rams have found tons of talent in 625 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: the mid rounds. The Seahawks have found some of that. 626 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: But what Seattle's done well is they don't miss on 627 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: their first and second round picks. They're all studs, so 628 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: so much of this league. That's that's why the I've 629 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: always loved the NFL draft. Nobody has aced their first 630 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: two or three picks on an annual basis better than Seattle. 631 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: The Rams have not had a lot of first round picks. 632 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: They have crushed in round four and round five. Even 633 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: Cooper Cutt was a third round pick. He's now a Seahawk. 634 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: So speaking of draft, Fernando Mendoza has officially declared for it. 635 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: He will be the number one pick. I asked Tom 636 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: uh he was at the Natty, what do you make 637 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: of Mendoza. 638 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 7: He's played tremendous, you know, all season sixteen and zero 639 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 7: leading his team. And again, he's another guy that you 640 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 7: know when you hear him speak, you know, I allays 641 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 7: kind of judge quarterbacks that go, how would I have 642 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 7: answered that? And he's just a very mature young man 643 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 7: and he's got a bright future. And you know, everybody 644 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 7: coming into the league there's still so much room for development. 645 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 7: Nobody's a finished product. I don't care whether you're won 646 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 7: the Heisman or you're the one hundred ninety ninth pick in 647 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 7: the draft. It's what do you do when you get there? 648 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 7: How important is this to you? Are you obsessed with 649 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,239 Speaker 7: your job? Are you obsessed with being the best you 650 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 7: can be? How can you be the best teammate? How 651 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 7: can you work hard? How can you play smart? How 652 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 7: can you play tough? How can you play well under pressure? 653 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 7: How well can you play in tough conditions? And then 654 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 7: ultimately how well can you play in championship games? And 655 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 7: all those things remain to be seen. 656 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: For the record in the College Football Playoff, if you 657 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: look at Mendoza's numbers, he was just incredible. Completion percentage 658 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: above seventy. And I said, I thought it was good 659 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: all year. When I saw him that road game at 660 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: Penn State, it was like in that last drive, it 661 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 1: was like, Wow, that is different level stuff. That is 662 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: really hard to do. 663 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 5: All right? 664 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: Thanks to Tom Brady, Brian Baldinger, J Mack see him money,