WEBVTT - "Dating Shows" w/ Sydnee Washington

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I want to say what's up to

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<v Speaker 1>the freaks, the losers, and yes, the perverts. It's Sam

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<v Speaker 1>here with a quick announcement to remind you that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing my solo show club comic in Los Angeles, California,

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<v Speaker 1>Baby on May tenth at Dynasty Typewriter with opener Rachel Pegram.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my solo show that is sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>comedy concert experience in which I do comedic club tracks

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<v Speaker 1>with videos and stand up. You know, I imagine if

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<v Speaker 1>the CHROMATICA Ball were in fact dumb. And I've done

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<v Speaker 1>it twice in New York now and not to be

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<v Speaker 1>a complete and utter bitch, but both of which were

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<v Speaker 1>sold out smashes, and so I would love to see

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<v Speaker 1>you in LA. Sorry for believing in myself that one

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<v Speaker 1>time when I said that they were good shows, but

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<v Speaker 1>they actually really were. And I think there's no reasonablieve

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<v Speaker 1>that this one won't also be a sleigh and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>But seriously, I would love to see their Dynasty Typewriter.

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<v Speaker 1>Get tickets in my bio or even at Dynasty Typewriter website,

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<v Speaker 1>and Okay, I'll see you soon. Xoxo. Enjoy the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye Sam. Podcasts starts. Now, Wow, here we are after

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to give some context, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know we.

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<v Speaker 2>Should because otherwise there's otherwise, Like people don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>People have no idea. People. People see us as podcasters

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<v Speaker 1>and they put us on this pedestal and they think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they must be perfect. Oh they're they're they're doing this

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<v Speaker 1>once a week. Wrong. We have been not We have

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<v Speaker 1>not recorded a new episode in a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Over a month, yeah, a month. I believe it has

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<v Speaker 2>been a month. I have been quite frankly globe trotting.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been quite frankly globe trotting, and there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way around that. I was on a tour of cultures, religions, families,

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<v Speaker 2>different lifestyles, practices. You could say I'm an anthropologist. I

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<v Speaker 2>was at a lesbian wedding in Mexico, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>was at a Greek Easter celebration with my biological non

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<v Speaker 2>chosen family in Greece. So show me anyone who had

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<v Speaker 2>a more multicultural April, and I will show you a liar,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's not possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, Wow, what did you learn about family by

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<v Speaker 1>sort of experiencing your own?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing good. I'm trying to think if I have any

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<v Speaker 2>fun stories, and I mean I feel like if I do,

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<v Speaker 2>then I should probably tell them when we bring in

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<v Speaker 2>our illustrious guests. But you know, I do always forget.

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<v Speaker 2>And once again, I don't want to be one of

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<v Speaker 2>those people that's making fun of their foreign parents, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do always forget that when I'm at home, the

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<v Speaker 2>screaming is NonStop in a way that could only be

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<v Speaker 2>described as cinematic and sort of like it is a

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<v Speaker 2>It is a movie where the joke is that this

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<v Speaker 2>family is always yelling.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, I do know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very unfortunate when you know, you know how when

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing this podcast, sometimes we'll be talking about like

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie XCX and we'll be like egs lay, gags lay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'll stop us and I'll be like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're being gay guys right now. I think in the

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<v Speaker 1>same way, I think it would really help families when

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<v Speaker 1>they realize they're doing a bit if they were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, we've been yelling for twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing a family bit. We're pretending to be it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing with my family is I would say

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<v Speaker 2>thirty percent of the time you can say you can

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<v Speaker 2>sort of do an intervention and say, can we all

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge at least that what we're doing now is sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a commentary on the idea of a family yelling.

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<v Speaker 2>But sometimes they're so in it that it's actually difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to get them out of it. I was in my

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<v Speaker 2>room and I could hear my parents just going off

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<v Speaker 2>on one another, and I was like, what are they

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<v Speaker 2>fighting about? Come to find out they are agreeing loudly

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<v Speaker 2>about a news story about high school bullying and guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>they're both anti bullying.

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<v Speaker 1>To be on the same side of an argument and

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<v Speaker 1>still be furious to.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, I was literally like, are they getting a divorce? No,

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<v Speaker 2>they're agreeing about high school bullying. They were actually in

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<v Speaker 2>passionate agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also like a topic that like doesn't you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to stretch to find someone that agrees with you,

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<v Speaker 1>like right, There's never been a point in time when

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<v Speaker 1>it's been like unless you're like a weirdo on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, bullying is good. Yeah, And so I

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<v Speaker 1>just for them to even feel empowered by that stance

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<v Speaker 1>is shocking to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's pretty it's pretty funny, and it's also just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like, you know, it's one of the many

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<v Speaker 2>ways in which as you get older, you become the

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<v Speaker 2>parent figure and your parents become the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like now now, when they are yelling again emphatically agreeing

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<v Speaker 2>with one another about high school bullying, I'm the one

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<v Speaker 2>that has to be like, can we keep it down.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to work on a podcast, or can we

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<v Speaker 2>keep it down?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a mediumly employed podcaster. Can you buy it? I

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<v Speaker 1>think so?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how like dogs like you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>like working a certain amount of day to like shoring healthy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe your parents need to sign up, like

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<v Speaker 1>for like a yelling class or something where they need

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<v Speaker 1>to like like if they can get it all out

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<v Speaker 1>in like a two hour little sprint on a Saturday morning. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that could really do wonders for the household.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. But you know what though, it's like when

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine what would it be like going home and

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<v Speaker 2>not having them yell, then it's like, well, then they've

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<v Speaker 2>given up. Like that's when I know they're in poor

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<v Speaker 2>health when I go home and they're sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>whispering and They're like, do you want anything to eat?

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, oh, no, you know they're not doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, call the doctors, trying to put them down well.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, So yeah, and so I guess that's what I learned.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sort of like, on the one hand, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to change everyone. On the other hand, they're all you have.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what I learned there. And then in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of my Mexican lesbian wedding, what I learned is that

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<v Speaker 2>love is love. And so I think you can take

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<v Speaker 2>those two lessons with you wherever you go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nice. Both of those are really impactful. I yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think we talked about on a Patreon

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<v Speaker 1>but the fact that you had told everyone that it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a wedding and then it was actually a

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<v Speaker 1>lesbian wedding was really jarring.

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't put labels on it. I hadn't put labels

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<v Speaker 2>on it, and people really were angry about that. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say my dms were blowing up because I had

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<v Speaker 2>told all my friends that I'm going to Mexico for

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<v Speaker 2>a wedding, a destination wedding in Mexico. When they saw

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<v Speaker 2>the two brides, I would say they got violent, and

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<v Speaker 2>they got it's similar to the way in which my

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<v Speaker 2>parents were yelling, but they were agreeing these people were

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<v Speaker 2>getting violent, but in an aggressively anti homophobic They were saying,

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<v Speaker 2>why weren't you doing lesbian visibility by saying it was

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<v Speaker 2>a lesbian wedding? Why were you? Were you embarrassed about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you do you wish you had gone to a

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<v Speaker 2>straight wedding in Mexico?

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<v Speaker 1>It did feel like you were like trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>it was a straight wedding the whole time. Like it

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<v Speaker 1>was like you could have even like hinted at the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it was lesbian wedding without like saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>lesbian wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, No, no, because I live in a world

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<v Speaker 2>where labels don't matter, and to me, that's a normal wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, lesbian is normal. And it's not my fault

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<v Speaker 2>that my community disagrees and expects me to qualify everything

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<v Speaker 2>with a qualifier and make some sort of joke about how, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they came in a U haul in a subaru. No,

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<v Speaker 2>because to me, they're human and you know, speaking of

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<v Speaker 2>human lesbians, I think it's about time we bring in

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<v Speaker 2>our guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, and a beautiful intro that that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is thank you, and yes, I have chosen not to

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<v Speaker 2>return return the que you know, sort of return the

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<v Speaker 2>favor of you asked me how I've been. With asking

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<v Speaker 2>you you've been, I have chosen to not inquire at

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<v Speaker 2>all about your life.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be completely honest, I could never be more

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<v Speaker 1>grateful because the thing is, like when you one, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that happens a lot, you can't start

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<v Speaker 1>with yours, like you can't start with like, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been traveling Lobe. I've seen literally every walk of life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've seen both chosen and non chosen family. Because

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<v Speaker 1>then if you ask me like hey, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you been up to? It's it's truly like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter, like in comparison, like come on, like

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<v Speaker 1>what have I what have I been up to? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? You haven't. You haven't really made any big realizations

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<v Speaker 2>like I have over the last month because you've been

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<v Speaker 2>in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you're sort of you're You're throwing out like a

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<v Speaker 1>high budget, big Hollywood film and I'm throwing out like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a quiet mumble core pee about like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that takes place in one room and it's all in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about being thirty in Brooklyn, you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean totally, and and yours is like this. It's huge,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has been stars and it has budget, it

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<v Speaker 1>has choreos.

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<v Speaker 2>Clouds dance, it's cloud Atless starring Tom Hanks and Halle Berry.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, it was mismarketed and it's probably not one

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<v Speaker 2>of the better Wakowski Phil.

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<v Speaker 1>He should have said it was a lesbian wedding exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>If I knew Cloud Atless was a lesbian wedding, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, we have to bring in our guest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, great, your life is good. No, my lifess

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<v Speaker 1>just bad. Let's just bring in our guests. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to really check in with what my life has

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<v Speaker 1>been up to.

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<v Speaker 2>Guest, I have to say, you know, we have it

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<v Speaker 2>sort of. We would never say this openly, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>except now that I'm saying it on a free, non

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<v Speaker 2>paywald episode, but we do. There is a sort of

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<v Speaker 2>level level of straighter Lab guests that is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is VIP. There is no air out it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>these are guests that have done multiple episodes and a

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<v Speaker 2>live show. Guests that if we we are sort of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, even if we are in another city, we

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<v Speaker 2>would think to call up guests that more importantly, did

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<v Speaker 2>you know some of our first episodes and then have

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<v Speaker 2>come back to check back in guests where I log

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<v Speaker 2>into the zoom and I say, thank God, I can

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<v Speaker 2>let my beautiful, luscious locks of hair down for once

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<v Speaker 2>in my life. And this is one of them. And

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<v Speaker 2>her name is Sydney Washington.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Wow, what what an intro. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>to unpack. I mean, you just wear in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Carmen San Diego having living, laughing, traveling and getting

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<v Speaker 3>all the Delta miles. So good for you and having

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<v Speaker 3>me back a black queer woman doing the heavy lifting

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<v Speaker 3>on the show. I mean I am. I'm honored, so

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<v Speaker 3>thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you for immediately volunteering to do the heavy lifting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because honey, it's not going to be us. We deserve it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been traveling all.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys have been you guys have been doing so

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<v Speaker 3>much just for multiple communities, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>time for you to be on ice and me really

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<v Speaker 3>just to put in put in the work. Pop my top.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Sidney, how have you been. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>been traveling?

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<v Speaker 3>I have more locally and strenuous work aka stand up,

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<v Speaker 3>And so if people don't know what stand up is,

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<v Speaker 3>it's where you think that you're presenting a POV and

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<v Speaker 3>people are like no, so they're like no, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see that for myself. So yeah, I've been.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been going all over the place. I was in

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<v Speaker 3>Seattle this past weekend and I just realized that's a

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<v Speaker 3>place to cry in the rain, that it's always running there.

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<v Speaker 3>The people are very into crafting and quilts. So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if I I don't know if I meshed

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<v Speaker 3>well in there. But the show, the shows were great.

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<v Speaker 3>And went to Detroit and just got slayed with tons

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<v Speaker 3>of homophobia at a at a show and that that

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<v Speaker 3>was humbling, And so I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I wasn't sure if you were talking openly about that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because that was that was a sort of sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a close friend's story if I remember correct.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I know about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wait, oh Sam, you're not on the we gotta

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<v Speaker 3>get you. We got to get you on the fence.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm on You heard it, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You heard it.

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<v Speaker 1>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>First, I have a fensta and it's I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it's very eventful, but if something happens like happens happened,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm putting it on you, and I'm giving receipts too,

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<v Speaker 3>so very much.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would say you're one of the people whose

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<v Speaker 2>fens does genuinely do feel I can't believe I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even talk about this genuinely do feel authentic, Like it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is someone who in fact is using this as

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<v Speaker 2>a place to talk to a few close friends. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what one of my pet peeves is when people

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<v Speaker 2>have a fens to and they are just as I

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<v Speaker 2>know this is the wrong word to use, but just

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<v Speaker 2>as performative as they are on their normal account, but

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<v Speaker 2>just for closer friends where you're like, okay, so you

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<v Speaker 2>actually can't unlearn the ills of social media, you're just

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<v Speaker 2>doing it for a smaller audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we learned, we learned that all of that is

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<v Speaker 3>it was all fake because in the quarantine, we're like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna die, so we might as well just be ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we're back on board to being like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fakes and frauds or whatever. So it's like you have

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<v Speaker 3>to put on you have to put on for your

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<v Speaker 3>close friends who are mainly colleagues. You know. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>if you have offensive, do you have friends from high

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<v Speaker 3>school on there? Probably not. It's just people that you

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<v Speaker 3>might be on set with and that you work with

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<v Speaker 3>and that you love, and you're like, this is my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're also like, let me not put something too

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<v Speaker 3>messy on there, because then I might not get a gig.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know, it's really difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a same space.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound safe space. I mean for like gay man finstas.

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<v Speaker 1>I do always get annoyed when it's not sexy content.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I don't want to see your nonsense sexy content.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we are not like you are a person that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like. We are not that tight. We are

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<v Speaker 1>following each other because you know why, we don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to expel it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's an unspoken word that it's like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to see the ring around the rosie, give me,

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<v Speaker 3>give me whole, Like what do you I want to

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<v Speaker 3>see the ripples and the abs. Otherwise it's just like

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<v Speaker 3>gone back over to the main.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see a ring around the rosy, give

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<v Speaker 2>me whole. I want to see the ripples and abs

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<v Speaker 2>that is, those are I would say, sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>kim petrously.

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<v Speaker 3>I do what I can. I work hard here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well wow, wait, I want to go back to what

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<v Speaker 2>you said, saidy about the pandemic sort of like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>making people fake somehow, because I do think I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of the biggest differences among people. And maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even I was gonna say people we know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think people broadly speaking, it's like, I do think some

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<v Speaker 2>people use the pandemic to get more real and some

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<v Speaker 2>of them use it to get more fake. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the real divide in America. How did you use it, George,

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question. And I think one of

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<v Speaker 2>the reasons why I am so troubled right now in

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<v Speaker 2>my life is because I couldn't commit to one or

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<v Speaker 2>the other.

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<v Speaker 3>You were in the middle, You're you're in.

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<v Speaker 2>The middle, You're you're by, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm by and I'm And it's sort of like if

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<v Speaker 2>you can't even commit during the pandemic, if you're by

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<v Speaker 2>during the pandemic, quite frankly, grow a backbone.

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<v Speaker 3>And I agree, I agree, you couldn't you, You couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have said it better. The thing is is that what's

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<v Speaker 3>wild is like people who are in the industry, we've

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<v Speaker 3>reverted back to being, you know, our performative selves. But

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<v Speaker 3>on TikTok people are so unhinged that I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know where the line where we cross, where we've drawn

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<v Speaker 3>a line, where the line you can't step over. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where where is the ring around the

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<v Speaker 2>ring where we can't see well TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>They also it gets performative in its unhingedness, where it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't real either, Like you are a person that's

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<v Speaker 1>like getting up and getting a coffee and being like

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<v Speaker 1>relatively normal. Like you you were able to set up

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<v Speaker 1>a camera, you were able to set up a ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Late.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not pretend that you're not actually like putting in

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<v Speaker 1>work and you're just like finding an insane caption and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to like out crazy the next person. Okay, I find.

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<v Speaker 3>There it is. I mean, and I love that I've

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<v Speaker 3>gotten two perspectives and quite frankly, you are educating us

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<v Speaker 3>each one to each one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's also just yeah, I do I agree with

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<v Speaker 2>you said, it's like, and I'm not really I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>on TikTok at all. Actually, so everything I see I

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<v Speaker 2>see because brag.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're not onto, Well so you're better than.

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<v Speaker 2>That, well because I'm well, I'm just sort of such

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<v Speaker 2>a big celebrity. I don't really need it. I have

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<v Speaker 2>my partnerships, I have my you know, I'm working at

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<v Speaker 2>any given point three full time writing jobs, all for

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<v Speaker 2>network shows, and so yeah, for me, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>a distraction. And I actually I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things on my plate right now, so I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>have time for that. But of course other people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different world now, and like I know people

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<v Speaker 2>are using it for comedy and stuff, but comedy, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I'm more of a traditionalist. And but so with

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<v Speaker 2>the things that I do see, one of my pet

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<v Speaker 2>peeves is when people are when people are putting on

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<v Speaker 2>this act that they are finally being real, like they're

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<v Speaker 2>telling they're like, okay, you know what, I'll tell the

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<v Speaker 2>real story of when I was fired from teen Vogue

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<v Speaker 2>and then and then they're like telling that story and

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell that at every point, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pro worker, but having said that at every point

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<v Speaker 2>they are exaggerating everything that has happened and making crazy

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<v Speaker 2>faces and do but and and and taking on like

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<v Speaker 2>the tone of someone doing a one person show, but

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<v Speaker 2>without the punchlines. And you're like, okay, so what is this.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was a solo show. I thought you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have to have punchlines. Thought it was just a story.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a story. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>a moth. No. Wow, I've been doing it wrong. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been doing it wrong. I need to do better.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's we're so far down rabbit hole. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know who we are subtweeting. I'm like, it

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<v Speaker 2>could be anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, George, I like this. I think everyone's desperate for

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<v Speaker 1>like a viral moment, and it's like taking It's like

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<v Speaker 1>they used to do it with Twitter too. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of like, oh, my coworker left the

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<v Speaker 1>fish in the fridge and it stinks, and tweet the

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<v Speaker 1>stinky fish and it was sort of like, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>like has its moment. And but then it was like

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<v Speaker 1>then clearly people were like exaggerating or even straight up

0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:51.400
<v Speaker 1>making it up, which is storytelling and is beautiful. But

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<v Speaker 1>then it was like, and we're just sort of repeating

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<v Speaker 1>history and making the same content in a different medium.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, we have outgrown this, but maybe, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty three year olds are like seeing it for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>Have we all grown it? Have we all grown it again?

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<v Speaker 3>And also have we I'm right now, I'm at a

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<v Speaker 3>crossroads because it's like, I'm like, I'm better than that.

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<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't have to do that. I'm an artist. But

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<v Speaker 3>then the competitive person that I fake am is like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm so funny, why can't I just lean into

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<v Speaker 3>that and use it for my advantage? Why am I

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<v Speaker 3>so much better than that that I can't even perform that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm flopping or TikTok whenever I just like kind of try.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like I'm in a constant state of damn okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I am I good? Am I funny? Is this real?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is this like a game? And yeah, mental mental

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<v Speaker 3>health is at an all time high over here, Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what you're saying is so I was actually, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about this the other day. I had

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<v Speaker 2>a real realization about myself. I'm currently not in therapy,

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<v Speaker 2>so I have to do autotherapy, which I'm really good at,

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<v Speaker 2>and which is said you just sort of think.

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<v Speaker 1>You take quiet moments of reflection.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, do I need Yeah, they don't even have to

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<v Speaker 2>be quiet.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I need health insurance for that? Do they take

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<v Speaker 3>United Healthcare?

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<v Speaker 2>It's really expensive? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No. As long as you have like the voice record

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<v Speaker 1>app on your phone, you can just sort of dictate there.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, so this was something Wait, hold on, So

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<v Speaker 2>what I was going to say is I made this

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<v Speaker 2>realization that like one of my biggest, one of my

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<v Speaker 2>go to sort of defense mechanisms almost is being like,

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<v Speaker 2>well I'm better than that, even if I don't verbalize

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<v Speaker 2>it explicitly. It's like, well, if I say I'm better

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<v Speaker 2>than that, then I don't have to try something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, it's classic. Yeah, it's a classics defense.

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<v Speaker 3>But then after you say that, then you go down

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<v Speaker 3>the list of bullshit that you've done that you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Not, huh.

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<v Speaker 3>You've sat you've sat in whole foods and went circles

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<v Speaker 3>around the person that's giving out samples, and you've come

0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.119
<v Speaker 3>back and you've been trying to pretend and be like no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a different person. No, no, no, let me talk

0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.040
<v Speaker 3>you up. It's like just say, hey, I want all

0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 3>of the dip and you didn't pay for it, so

0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.400
<v Speaker 3>give it to me. Give me the fucking pit, give

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<v Speaker 3>me this new Hummus tip dip with like the chili paste.

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<v Speaker 3>Give it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm oh my god, delicious. But it And also

0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 2>then you're like, Okay, I'm better than that. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>where's your novel? Literally? Where is the proof footage? Not found? Sweetie?

0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 2>For where is the proof that you're better than that? Okay,

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.080
<v Speaker 2>you're better than making TikTok videos? Where is the Academy

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Award nominated screenplay? Because I don't see it? Yeah, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not in my Google drive.

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<v Speaker 1>You're being harsh, you're being harsh on yourself, and you're

0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:45.520
<v Speaker 1>being harsh on others. I feel I feel that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>like we do know that social media, while it can

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<v Speaker 1>be a tool, and while it can be helpful, it

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<v Speaker 1>also is so emotionally exhausting. It's learning a new language.

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.120
<v Speaker 1>There's new trends, there's new ways of speaking, there's new

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<v Speaker 1>and we've been through it with a few at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know that it's like, yes, you can blow

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<v Speaker 1>up on it, but also you can blow up on

0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:06.080
<v Speaker 1>it and it can be really short lived, or you

0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:07.800
<v Speaker 1>can blow upon it and like doesn't lead to anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I think, obviously you shouldn't necessarily be afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and like there's value in like sort of

0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>dipping your toe in and seeing how it feels.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fright, and every day I wake up in a

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:25.280
<v Speaker 4>pool of sweat because I'm like, well, I need to promote,

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 4>but I don't have content?

0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 3>So how do you promote right without the content? And

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.400
<v Speaker 3>it's like, what were we doing? What were we doing

0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:34.200
<v Speaker 3>six years ago?

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:38.719
<v Speaker 1>What were we doing posting hot picks on Insta exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>And we've gone so far from it. And that's why

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 3>I know. I know that the world is ending very soon,

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:45.440
<v Speaker 3>very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, I'm just getting a live feed. George's parents

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.439
<v Speaker 1>have stopped yelling. I think the world is ending.

0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 2>My parents have stoped yelling. The leves Gans have gotten

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:58.200
<v Speaker 2>a divorce, and everyone is posting hole on their faces.

0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Finally find it in peace. Okay, we need to do

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 2>our first segments so that then we can finally learn

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<v Speaker 2>what Sydney's surprise topic is because the suspense is killing me.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to say, just comment on the podcast

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>when we make the podcast. It has been long enough

0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, wow, I forgot we were going into

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:28.959
<v Speaker 1>our first topic. And also I feel, you know, friend vibes.

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.199
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting to try to truly talk about something that

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 1>makes us kind of anxious, and I'm kind of impressed

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 1>that we've like tried and I think succeeded at least

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to expressing how we feel.

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<v Speaker 3>We're intellects, just so you know, and first and foremost, Yeah,

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 3>so I think out of all of the people that

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 3>we know, when it's time to sit down and be transparent,

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 3>we are transparent. And we're not putting on a thing

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.879
<v Speaker 3>that's true, like we can step out of the show

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 3>and unfortunate you shouldn't be doing that on podcasts, but

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 3>here we are.

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 2>If nothing else. You know, we may not be viral

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 2>on TikTok, but we are able to be transparent on.

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Honey, not even opaque, completely transparent. Okay, wow, Sydney.

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 1>Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>we ask you a series of rapid fire questions to

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:29.360
<v Speaker 1>gauge your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture. The

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:31.919
<v Speaker 1>only rule is you can't ask any followup questions or

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>we will yell at.

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 3>You if I like getting yelled at.

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a question, George, do you want to kick us off?

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Damn it. I just thought of another, an extra

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:50.640
<v Speaker 2>one outside while I was taking my little pre show walk,

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:54.439
<v Speaker 2>and now I can't remember it. Okay, Sydney, keeping the

0:24:54.480 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 2>haters at bay or searching porn hub for gay h Yeah?

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Wait, is it? That's all one thing you can Okay, Okay,

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 3>keeping the haters at bay or or searching the porn hub.

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 2>For gay porn hub. Forget.

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say straight this is straight culture, Sydney.

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 2>You've done the show before. You have to pick one or.

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 3>The Okay, Okay, Sorry.

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I'm really actually wait, you know what I should

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 2>not have correct you, because that is that is the

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:36.919
<v Speaker 2>most iconic. Don't do that.

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Don't do that because I did a show, I did

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 3>a podcast keep it, and I have I have heard,

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 3>I've heard the episodes. But when it was time to

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 3>do keep it, it was clear that I did not know.

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know how it went, and the people dragged me.

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 3>So I'm glad that you fixed this. I'm going to say, uh,

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:00.119
<v Speaker 3>searching the porn hub for.

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Gay Okay, Sydney, the tooth fairy or the dental hygienist.

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 3>The tooth fairy.

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, I just remember the one. I just remember

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 2>the one that I was gonna do. Okay, much ado

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 2>about nothing? Or Scooby Doo eating a muffin. I'm sorry,

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make any.

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Sense much to do about nothing?

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Sydney, bo is afraid? Or Bunny is a rider? Ooh,

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that's good.

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Bunny is a rider.

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Sydney getting the Sunday Scaries or reading Tuesdays with Maury.

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Love a slant reading the Tuesdays with Maury.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Sydney. Twist it, pull it or bop.

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 3>It oo bop it Okay.

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Sydney, Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, or Poudy with

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 2>a chance of cussing you out.

0:26:56.400 --> 0:27:02.239
<v Speaker 3>Powdy Bowdy with a chance of cussing you out. I

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 3>feel like I feel like can we just I feel

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 3>like I'm bombing. I'm bombing and no, no you're not.

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>You know is bombing? You know who is bombing me.

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Sam's reactions to every straight shoot I have said so

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 2>far are the most disgusted. He has ever he has

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 2>ever seen with me.

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>No, I love the rhyme. I love the slam.

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 3>It's okay, keep going, keep going, okay, Sam go okay,

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 3>speaking your truth or hearing Charlie pouth Mmm speaking your truth,

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 3>speaking your truth?

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Wait, I actually do have another one, since I

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 2>since I did the extual one, ringing the bell at

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.239
<v Speaker 2>the New York Stock Exchange or going through Hell at

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 2>the New York Saint Patrick's Day parade.

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh oh, that's a tough one. I'm going to say

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 3>the same Sat Patrick's Day, going through Hell.

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.919
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, wow, okay, Now we have to rank your

0:27:57.920 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>performance on a scale of one to one thousand doves.

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>And guess what what what a thousand and one? A

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 2>thousand and one does a thousand and one doves? And

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 2>and actually to sort of see through the matrix, can

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you guys hear that buzzing sound because I have a

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 2>story about it. No, no, okay, you will never believe

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 2>what is currently happening?

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>What what so?

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 2>This happened? This happened earlier. I'm alone in my house. Okay,

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm alone in my house. I'm alone in the house.

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>I suddenly hear a buzzing sound. I say, what is that?

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Go to the bathroom. My electric razor has turned on

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 2>on its own and won't turn off. I'm prising the button,

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I sort of. God, I'm not lying, I'm not like exaggerating. Literally,

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 2>it had turned on on its own. It was not

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 2>even like placed so that the button was touching something.

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 2>It literally just turned on its own, wouldn't turn off.

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:49.479
<v Speaker 2>I tried to turn it out, tried to turn it off,

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>and then it turned off on its own, and as

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 2>we were doing the segment, it started doing it again,

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>and there's just a buzz happening in the bathroom. Well,

0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna actually hold on. I'm going to bring it

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>here that everyone, and can.

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 3>I just want to let you know that I feel

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 3>like this is a great start to a pilot and

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I think you should do something with this.

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So it's it's you and the buzzer, and the

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>buzzer is haunted by the ghost of.

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Can you hear this?

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, it's not it's not. It legitimately

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>turned on out of nowhere, and so how there's nothing

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I can do about it, and.

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>You can't do anything.

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I can't take the batteries off. It's a rechargeable thing.

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 2>It just is literally going off.

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 3>But I want to say, I want to say that

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 3>this is the most hateful thing you can have to

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 3>a lesbian being on the pod right now? Why this

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 3>razor just going off while we were having.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, because it's such a sign of masculine Yeah.

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 3>We were having like such a moment and we were

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 3>like really building up and then this just razor is

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 3>like no silence or silence.

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I know. Well, this it's a very masculine presenting razor

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 2>and I think you know, it lives in a gay household,

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>and it's so sick of the f slurs that are

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>walking around all day and then it has to hear me,

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, squeal on a gay podcast all day long.

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 2>At some point it says it not fed out, get

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 2>me out here.

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 3>And it just so happened while me here me.

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's true, it's true. I mean, you know what

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I say to the razor that's going off, ringing, the

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>going off, alarm ring, going off.

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Larm ring, the going off razor. Oh my god, Well

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>you know what we made it? To go back to

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the segment, I think Sydney that you were you gave

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 2>a virtue also performance. I think you know, it was

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 2>giving Amanda Seifried and the dropout. You understood the assignment.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>You understood the assignment. It was also you know, talk

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>about RuPaul coming to your table and saying, you know,

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>just be vulnerable, be yourself. And I felt like that's

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 1>really what came through, was the true you. And you know, yeah,

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>flaws and all, but that can be so so powerful

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>for people to relate to.

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Wow, then I agree, you know what, this was.

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 2>True to you, bitch, you are authentic. It was finsta.

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>It was it was sort of like, oh, she's spent

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 2>pandemic becoming more real and not more fake. That was

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 2>that was the spirit.

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 3>She's the type that's like, you know what, grammatical errors

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 3>are just me and you're gonna have to put up

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 3>with it.

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>You know. I believe in that.

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Actually I have never heard you make a grammatical error

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 2>in your entire life. I feel like you're someone who

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>really speaks in complete sentences.

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But then I then I like, hear a recording

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 3>of myself and I'm like.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Rare, oh same. Oh it's actually crazy the way that

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 2>in my mind I am constantly speaking as though I

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>am giving a commencement address, and then I listened back

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 2>to recording and I'm like, oh, do I speak English?

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm, Yeah.

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>It can be pretty embarrassing sometimes if I don't listen,

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I crushed. And then I'll listen back and

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>like I'm doing like internet voice, like I'm doing like

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>like trying to be cutesy voice or something that tris

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>me crazy.

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 3>And that's why you got to never listen back. You

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 3>just got to believe. You got to be in the

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 3>delusion so hard that it keeps you going. It's a

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>delusion that I want to be on flight delusion. Okay,

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 3>air delusion. If possible, get me first class tickets to that,

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 3>because then it just gives you the will to keep going.

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>That's so beautiful.

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Should we go to law school?

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so long?

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think I know if you put the

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>work and did your TikTok that you would have to

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>find in law school. Actually you certainly won't.

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 3>Wait. That actually feels like a great like unscripted show

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 3>that feels like a challenge show where it's like two

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 3>people challenge each other. One is to do well on

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 3>TikTok and the other one is to finish law school.

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Law school, Who comes out on I would love that

0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>who comes out.

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>On top gets rich first. It's like one of those

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>programs where you follow like it's like a long term

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>documentary where it's like Boyhood. You follow them for like

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>literally twenty years and see a home.

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very which way modern man.

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, that's fun. Yeah.

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean in some ways those are the two paths

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:19.719
<v Speaker 2>in life. Is either going to law school or going

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 2>viral on TikTok. And let me tell you something I

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>haven't accomplished either yet.

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh brother, happening for a darling not happening for.

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Said, we asked you in the beginning, We were like,

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>do you want to surprise us or do you want

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>to tell us ahead of time? And Sam, you actually

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 2>were came out pro surprise.

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I thought it could really keep us on our

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>toes to not know the topic ahead of time.

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>It's been forever since we've done that. I'm scared you

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 2>should be thing letting.

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>We just have to learn that. Let go.

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, I have to let go.

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 3>We also we also learned that like the way that

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm so spontaneous, it actually is more beneficial for the pod.

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, famously your first episode. I remember you had come

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 2>in with a different topic, and because there was so much,

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 2>so much miscommunication, we had decided the topic would be miscommunication.

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Was beautiful, it was so good.

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 2>And it was honestly one of our best episodess.

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know if y'all hated me after or you

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 3>all were like, oh my god, I think this bron

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 3>is closer.

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 2>We could that you that we are like that were

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 2>like criticizing you behind your back or something.

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know you're gay, So is it phils on grass?

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 2>True? Yeah, a well dressed woman. So yeah, and that's

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>the only defense against gay people talking about your mind?

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Right, you're right, my bad. Let me check. Let me

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 3>check the textbook again, because of what page is that.

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>On rules and regulations? Okay, so sid I think without

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 1>further ado, what is this surprise topic?

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 3>It would be dating shows, Dating shows straight. Yeah, it's

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 3>like this, it's the straightest thing that you can possibly

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 3>have because instead of it's like just date and have

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 3>a life, it's like, nope, we gotta show it off.

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 3>We got to show how bad we are at this

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 3>and then have some kind of gain from it.

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 2>That is soul and dating shows are a perfect thing

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 2>that like that, like literally, no matter how many times

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 2>they try to make them gay, it simply doesn't work.

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Like you have to be a specific kind of delusional

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 2>that you can only be if you are heterosexual. Like, yes,

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 2>gay people can be and I'm not saying gay people

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 2>are better or any Gay people can be messy on TV.

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 2>They can better, they can be well they're better in

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 2>some ways, but you know, they can be messy, they

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 2>can be mean, they can be cruel, whatever, but they

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 2>will never be the girl on the Bachelor that is

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 2>looking for love.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:02.919
<v Speaker 3>Never.

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I think also straight relationships already have been

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>gamified like in real life, Like it is very like

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>do you have sex on the first date? Okay? Do

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you like like move in after a year? Okay, you've

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>been dating for three years? Why are you not engaged yet?

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Like there's already this like clear path that it like

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it actually does click for a TV show because you

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>can like play with these markers and it makes sense

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 1>where it's like gay people are like, well, my relationship,

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>we've been together for ten years and we don't live

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:35.760
<v Speaker 1>together and that's beautiful and it's.

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Now and now we're Polly, and now we're poly.

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 1>And now we're Polly. Yeah. Well, actually we've been we're

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 1>never getting married, but we're Yeah.

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Actually we've been Polly the whole time, but we just

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 3>never like solidified it and made it official. And now

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 3>we did and we're still going to be together and

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 3>it's okay.

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whereas with straight contestants, they're like, are we getting married?

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Because otherwise I'll kill myself.

0:36:56.520 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It's very linear, which makes for an easy narrative

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>in television.

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 2>And also, you know, it's funny like dating shows are

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 2>one of the only places left where marriage means something.

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, totally but what.

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 3>But what exactly does it mean? If anything? Putting it

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 3>on TV? Let's us know how fucking stupid marriage is.

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Like the definition of it by who defined marriage? Someone straight?

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well Jesus Christ.

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Whoa questioning?

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess he died single? Oh you know, no one

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 2>talks about that. Yes, but by a.

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor legend Jesus Christ.

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was. Honestly, he was the original bachelor.

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, another show, pitch, Another show pitch, Jesus.

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:45.839
<v Speaker 2>Says, another bachelor. He was the original bachelor. And then

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Mary Magdalen was sort of the slighty dental head genist

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 2>who was like I want him, but me. She was like,

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 2>when we went on those bumper cars, I knew that

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 2>the way he looked at me was not the way

0:37:57.880 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 2>he looked at the other girls.

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so about marriage being real for straight people, it

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>is like a fun prize to win, like in the

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>same way that when you're on like a competition reality show,

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, you're gonna win one hundred thousand dollars,

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's like yes for someone that like like that's

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 1>a big bump in money, but it's like you're not

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>like chilling for life now, like you still have like

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 1>like in a year or whatever, you have to pick

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>your job back up, and so like it's not like

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>this big win, but it has the same ring as like,

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 1>well we pretend it.

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Is so that this show is fun marriage.

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 3>You mean, yeah, yeah, well, because it's like at least

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 3>the money is tangible.

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 1>If you do want like a person, if you want

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>like a monogamous partner for life and that's like a

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 1>goal of yours, then this promises that, like this is

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>like a get rich scheme, but for relationships where it's like,

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>well you're not actually winning a lifetime partner. You're winning

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the show. The fact that you won over the course

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of three months does not mean you're going to be

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>together forever just because you are married. And it's almost

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>like a shortcut to this like life partner that is

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>like not real.

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, And it's weird because it's like it's under the guys.

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 3>It's like love is blind love it we don't want

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 3>love to be blind. Actually, I want my love to

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 3>have all of the sight so that they're making proper choices.

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 3>I want my love to be rational.

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:36.479
<v Speaker 2>Decision yeah, one of the yes. And Nick and Vanessa, Lasha,

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't trust tell me.

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 3>And they're they're like so obsessed with themselves that they

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:48.800
<v Speaker 3>don't really care about the benefit of the contestants. Also

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 3>very very call them.

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Hey, yeah, they don't care. They do not have the contestants'

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:57.479
<v Speaker 2>best interests. That hat don't.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 3>They don't because as hosts, it's like you're supposed to

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 3>kind of be in this middle ground, which is like no,

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.240
<v Speaker 3>get in there and be like you know what, bitch,

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 3>you suck. That's why no one wants.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>To be with you.

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, they are funny because it's like you know, they

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not like Nick and Vanessa la Schet created the show.

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 2>This isn't like their big theory that love is blind.

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 2>They just got this job. I mean, they are television

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 2>personalities who got this job as hosts. But then their

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 2>job now is to have to pretend that they're the

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 2>ones that pioneered this idea that love is blind. So

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 2>they feel so strongly about it, and they're like, you

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 2>guys are in the number one first ever social media

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 2>experiment where we figure out if love is blind, and

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Vanessa is sort of like in her sort of straighter

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 2>lab drag with her with her lab code, and because.

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know what really gets me But okay,

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what really gets me hot about these dating

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 3>shows too. It's like, if you guys really cared about love,

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:59.240
<v Speaker 3>I need everybody to stop looking TV ready. I want

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 3>off the stre I want rough draft, I want people

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:07.760
<v Speaker 3>who's ashy, elbows, missing limbs, I want a lazy eye.

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 3>I want fucking receipting airlines. I want if it's really

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 3>about what it's supposed to be, then why is this

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:17.240
<v Speaker 3>so glamorized?

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's sort of a final taboo is getting

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 2>ugly people to date on TV, it's not. And by

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 2>the way, ugly ugly and smart, ugly and smart people like.

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.760
<v Speaker 2>The only way to actually have a proper dating show

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 2>that has anything to offer is to basically get and

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 2>this is why it's impossible, is to get people who

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be on TV to be hones.

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yep, because then you'll get Then you'll get something

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 3>that's actually more authentic, something that's actually like they're being

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 3>themselves because they actually are dreading being on the fucking show.

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes, guess what. The best reality the best dating show

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:57.320
<v Speaker 2>on television right now is Couple's Therapy on Showtime or

0:41:57.560 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 2>have you watched.

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.879
<v Speaker 3>No, No, No, what tell me about it.

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 2>I've talked about it on the podcast before. But it

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 2>is this woman, doctor Orna. She is a psychoanalyst and

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 2>she basically I mean, they do offer the couples free

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.240
<v Speaker 2>therapy for being on the show. But I'm not joking

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>when I say that these are not couples that are

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:16.320
<v Speaker 2>like desperate to be reality stars, like they are genuinely

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.760
<v Speaker 2>couples that are being honest and real about their problems

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:23.879
<v Speaker 2>and saying things that are shocking to think that they

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 2>are putting them out there for like their children to see.

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 2>And it is literally like you are following them for

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember, you know, eight or ten episodes, and

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you follow these four couples and they hash everything out

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 2>and some of them make it and some of them don't.

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Some of them uncover things they did not think they

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.920
<v Speaker 2>were going to uncover. And so that to me, if

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about authentic is the only is

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 2>the only alternative I can offer. The other thing I

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 2>will say about dating shows is that one of the

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 2>things that sort of makes them straight is that they

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 2>are shining a light on the inherent ridiculousness of dating culture,

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 2>like the fact that they have to keep coming up

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:02.359
<v Speaker 2>with new places for these people to go on dates,

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Like they're going to go bumper cars, they are going

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 2>to go to an escape room. They're going to go

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to a sunset hike. They're going to go to, you know,

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:10.800
<v Speaker 2>a restaurant where they're blindfolded. They're going to go to

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a restaurant that's only raw squid. And so it's because

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 2>that is basically just the heightened version of what straight

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 2>dating is. It's like people that hate each other thinking

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 2>of new activities to do so they can spend money, get.

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 3>To it there.

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 2>It is.

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Drag them please.

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to say first of all, that couples therapy

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 1>shows sounds incredible, and it's funny that a show exists

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>only because therapy is so expensive that people would willingly

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.720
<v Speaker 1>like go on TV and like air out their fucking

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>issues because they cannot afford to pay three hundred dollars

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:45.919
<v Speaker 1>a session or whatever.

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 3>The fuck it's so much. It's so much, and they don't.

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:52.839
<v Speaker 3>It's so much like we every day we realize they're like, oh,

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>this is not set up for us to be well

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 3>or do well or have money. So it's like these

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 3>shows kind of rub in our face how dumb we are,

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:06.240
<v Speaker 3>and we keep eating it up. We're like, give me more,

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 3>I want second, third, spor give me a buffet of it.

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 3>And it's so annoying. I'm like, stop with the shows.

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Just stop.

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 2>But don't you think that it's also like that you're

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:22.839
<v Speaker 2>also sort of comforted by how superior you feel. Like

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like you're watching people and you're like, well, these

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 2>people are idiots. I'm not like that, like when you're

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 2>watching Love is Blind or something.

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel such superior.

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 3>No, because it just reminds me of like, oh, I'm

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 3>just dumb. I'm just smart enough not to get on

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 3>TV and follow this, but I will get somebody else's

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:42.320
<v Speaker 3>script that I will audition for and self tape thirteen

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 3>thousand times for them to tell me, no, we're looking

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 3>for something else, but we'll keep you in the mix,

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, like it's the.

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>It's the same shit.

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's almost more embarrassing when I'm doing these auditions

0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 1>for things that I don't think will be good and

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and and then being rejected and be like, oh damn,

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm so pitiful.

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, it's like if you're it's TikTok all

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.320
<v Speaker 2>over again. Yeah. It's like if our goal is essentially

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:15.760
<v Speaker 2>to be in any way on camera, Okay, yes, yes,

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:20.240
<v Speaker 2>then then how dumb are we not to simply respond

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 2>to a cast and call for a dating show.

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 3>And it's so funny that we're talking like this and

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 3>we're all gay in a relationship, long time gain.

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 2>A relationship, and also, by the way, willingly having a

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 2>conversation that is being recorded for people to consume. So

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 2>what the hell do we think.

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm here to help, though I'm literally like I want

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 3>to be as more not like I'm telling it like

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:49.800
<v Speaker 3>it is, but i just want to be more honest

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 3>in the sense that like, yo, nobody knows what they're doing.

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 3>We're all confused, we're all just trying it out. But

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 3>it's like, but don't sit here on your ha horse

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:01.800
<v Speaker 3>behind your fucking keyboard and say X, Y and Z

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 3>about things when it's like, hey, we know things too,

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 3>and that's why we deserve a mic.

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 2>And said you are preaching today.

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Truly, so I'm like, wow, okay.

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I can never when you start a sentence, I can

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 2>never tell who you are mad at and who you

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 2>are aligning yourself with until the sentence is over it truly,

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm truly I feel like I'm like in church.

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm also just like wait, like yeah, like waiting to

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>sort of see what the yeah, who you're mad at

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>before I like celebrate or not.

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm sort of like yeah, yeah, I just sometimes

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 2>they'll start nodding and that it's very much like Winona

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Ryder when they won the MB and she was like

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:43.919
<v Speaker 2>in the background nodding and then shaking her head. That's

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 2>me every time you start a new sentence and by

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:47.799
<v Speaker 2>the end I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right.

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 3>And that's why you guys are bad gays, because you're

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 3>listening and you're waiting, and it's like you're just supposed

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:52.879
<v Speaker 3>to be like.

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, that's actually a good point. You are.

0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>We are.

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I say something, you're immediately to be on board. And

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's because you're in New York

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 3>and you're not like yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 2>If we were LA, we would be snapping. We would

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 2>have been snapping at you.

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:11.359
<v Speaker 1>The whole time.

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, So okay. I googled dating shows just to

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 2>sort of get a little get a little inspired. I mean,

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 2>so many of them, so you know, there's married at

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>first Sight, there's the Bachelor, there's all of them. Really

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 2>do I think the default is for them to end

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 2>in marriage? And then even the ones that are different

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 2>where it's like f Boy Island, it's sort of like, well,

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 2>the twist is that they are f boys, but we

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:38.879
<v Speaker 2>want to tame the or you know, but we want

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 2>to like choose the good ones from the bad ones.

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 2>It's still sort of like re reifying this model of

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 2>like what is good is a man and a woman

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:49.240
<v Speaker 2>getting married.

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, And this is what I loved. I loved so

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.839
<v Speaker 1>much about sort of early two thousand dating shows from

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 1>MTV where the goal was never marriage and it was

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 1>way more up front about like we are just putting

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>people in a weird scenario.

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Comedy gol.

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Next, I'm talking about Next, I'm talking about Room.

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Raiders, Room Raiders, First Day, Date my Mom, Date my Mom.

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Like, this stuff was funny. This stuff is like a

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:17.879
<v Speaker 1>sketch camera show New York.

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like just.

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Real, full blown, Like you can take excerpts from it

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 3>and just use it as a meme. You can pull

0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 3>from any of those shows, post it on TikTok, go viral.

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Because the ship was like it was in that certain

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:34.879
<v Speaker 3>time that you're like, man, I didn't even realize how

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 3>fucking genius this was. It was real entertainment.

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 2>There were fully comedians behind the scenes, I mean, and.

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Dating shows in the early two thousands.

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Yah yah.

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 2>He art form I mean next, Room Raiders specifically and

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Date my Mom were fully I mean, it was it

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 2>was John Waters, I mean Room.

0:48:57.560 --> 0:48:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Raiders every time when they like look at their underwear

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and I would be like, like every single time you're

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 1>seeing underwear.

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and that black light. When that black light

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 3>comes on, you're like.

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh, oh, oh oh, he came everywhere.

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:18.320
<v Speaker 3>His comment is every oh my god, he's so dirty dirty.

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.920
<v Speaker 1>It was also no matter what type of underwear there was,

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 1>it would always be like hell no, like it would

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>like no rhyme or reason to it. I don't like

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy that wears any underwear. It was juicy, juicy

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>U se u.

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 3>See if he's not if he's not commando, I don't

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 3>want it.

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like his dick and balls are small. I'm not interested.

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 3>If his scrotum is not chafing up against some denims,

0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 3>some endig dems, I don't want it.

0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It was a funny time, very homophobic, and yet

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:55.359
<v Speaker 1>the formats were.

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Getting yo, truly the biggest the highlight of the homophobia

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:03.919
<v Speaker 3>in terms of like entertainment. But you just have to laugh,

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 3>You just constantly have.

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 2>You do have to laugh. And I also feel like

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:10.800
<v Speaker 2>in the early odds, Okay, so here's a sort of theory.

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I feel like in the early odds culture had not

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 2>been corrupted by you know, social media oversaturation of just

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 2>like insane people on TV whatever, like reality shows are

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 2>still in new so they there was a real spirit

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:31.560
<v Speaker 2>of experimentation with dating shows because like most people were

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:33.480
<v Speaker 2>dating normally. They didn't even have dating apps, you know,

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 2>most people were just like going on dates normally, getting married,

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. And so they were like, okay, dating shows,

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 2>this is a chance to really have some fun with it,

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Whereas I think now the prevailing attitude is like we've

0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 2>lost our way as a society and it is time

0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 2>love made a comeback. So now dating shows are actually

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 2>fundamentally conservative because they are, if anything, trying to bring

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 2>back traditional values in dating.

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>That is so true. I think that's a genius point.

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:03.880
<v Speaker 3>George, every every day, every time I get on this podcast,

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:06.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, George fucking reads Man's.

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh yeah, all of this is in books. All

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:11.799
<v Speaker 2>of this is in books. And let me tell you something.

0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, It's like now real life is room Raiders,

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.719
<v Speaker 2>and next like if you just go on you know,

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Instagram and TikTok or whatever, everyone is basically trying to

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:24.719
<v Speaker 2>do some home brewed version of early odds reality TV,

0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:27.319
<v Speaker 2>whether it's like Man on the Street segments, whether it's

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 2>like oh we took a photo of this woman before

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:33.280
<v Speaker 2>and after we said she's beautiful. Like, it's all literally

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 2>people trying to do like their own DIY version of

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 2>whatever was going on on MTV and VH one in

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 2>the early odds. So then Netflix comes along and it's like,

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're missing just a guy and a girl

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 2>falling in love.

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:45.799
<v Speaker 3>It's some contrived though.

0:51:56.200 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so early odds reality shows, progressive queer lgbt Q,

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 2>current dating shows, family values. Yeah, okay, So I guess

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:08.359
<v Speaker 2>the question that remains is where do we go from here?

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Sam and I have already thought of a gay reality

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:13.360
<v Speaker 2>show called what is it called? Sam?

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm everything I've ever said. I've completely and instantly forgotten.

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Please remind me what was the.

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 2>It's the premise was that you like, can't be horny,

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 2>and then if you're horny, you it's like and then

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you have to be It's like you.

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Have to you lose it. You can't remember horny.

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>You have to time, you have to stay the whole time.

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:37.800
<v Speaker 2>You get voted off if you're a flask. But but

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 2>but but this is all gay man, It's all they

0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 2>have to be hard the whole time.

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 1>But you can't come.

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 2>But you can't come. You have to be hard and

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 2>you can't. You can't be flaccid, and you can't eraculate.

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I forgot the rule. I'm watching Where do I sign

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 1>in the middle?

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Where do I sign up? How do I get it?

0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 2>It's on free v on Amazon? So okay, So Sidney,

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:02.960
<v Speaker 2>what would your ideal dating show be?

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Like, what is my ideal dating show? It would be

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 3>hitting cameras. It would be hitting. It would be hitting

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:14.280
<v Speaker 3>camera for sure, and it would literally, let's get hitting camera,

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 3>even though it's against the law, but we need to

0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 3>show people exactly who they are under the guise of

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:23.360
<v Speaker 3>them really being authentic, and then we could be and

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 3>then we put things on the scoreboard. And it's like, bitch,

0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:29.000
<v Speaker 3>you keep telling people that these men are the problem.

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:33.840
<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely you, and stop saying it's because you're an aries. Okay,

0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:38.480
<v Speaker 3>it's just because you are bad. You are bad at communicating.

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Your standards are ridiculous. You know, I think people people

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 3>need to see that mirror, which they don't because you know,

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:48.319
<v Speaker 3>you post something on Instagram and people are like, I

0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:50.840
<v Speaker 3>love you, You're the best, you are a genius, and

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:54.000
<v Speaker 3>it's just like I don't want I don't.

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:54.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't want reddit energy, but I do want things

0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 3>to be a little bit or.

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 1>You want to be. You want to call someone's workplace

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:05.759
<v Speaker 1>and say she has her standards to high fire her.

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean you're pointing to the to the main problem,

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 2>as always with reality TV, is that the one limitation

0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 2>is that it's people who want to be on television

0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Like that is the one limitation of reality TV. It

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 2>is people. Even when it's hidden cameras, they have to

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:24.360
<v Speaker 2>sign away. There is no way to actually get anything

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:27.240
<v Speaker 2>that is I don't want to use the word authentic,

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:31.239
<v Speaker 2>but anything that is spontaneous or real on camera. So

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 2>basically what you're saying, they do it on TikTok.

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:35.920
<v Speaker 3>They do hidden stuff on TikTok all the time.

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I guess that TikTok again, it.

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:43.719
<v Speaker 3>Goes haywire left and right. But I think that's more honest.

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:47.520
<v Speaker 3>But even then, the person who's creating it, they have

0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, they have too much power in it,

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:51.799
<v Speaker 3>so they can skew it in any kind of way.

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:55.480
<v Speaker 3>But I think we all just need to sit back

0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 3>and realize that we all have issues and nobody is

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:02.319
<v Speaker 3>the best of anything. Saying nobody's at ten. Nobody's like.

0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Just get it to the point of like, if we

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 3>start looking at each other as equals and better than

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 3>like he's better, she's better, there be like then we

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:13.880
<v Speaker 3>can really get to back to dating properly.

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Equal island. Equality is equality.

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:20.920
<v Speaker 3>No one would watch everyone would watch it.

0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 2>No one watch and guess what it's not. They're not

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:25.799
<v Speaker 2>going to treat one another as equals. Let me tell

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 2>that because I've heard of this Damford prison experiment. That's

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 2>not how it turned out. Okay, here's my proposal is

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:35.440
<v Speaker 2>there is only one solution. We have to break the

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 2>law in order to make an actually good dating show.

0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:40.040
<v Speaker 2>There's no way to make a good dating show when

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 2>there are waivers involved. And so someone needs to step

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:45.919
<v Speaker 2>up and be willing to go to jail in order

0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to make a dating show that is good. And then

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:49.759
<v Speaker 2>we can stop making dating shows forever. And I think

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 2>what needs to happen is you need to pick a restaurant,

0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:56.320
<v Speaker 2>and I'm talking like a sort of mid tier tapas restaurant,

0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 2>a place that people go for dates, for straight dates.

0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 2>You need to pick a restaurant. Everyone you know, everyone

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:04.640
<v Speaker 2>there needs to be in on it. Everyone that works there.

0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:07.560
<v Speaker 2>They need to be heading cameras and for one year

0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 2>you film people going there on dates and then at

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 2>the end you make a documentary.

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and then you and let me tell you, when

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 3>chips and dip are involved, people are their realist. Okay,

0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 3>there's nobody's being bougie when they have to use their

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 3>actual hand to pick up something and put it in

0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:23.480
<v Speaker 3>their mouth.

0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, wow, I'm trying to think of what a

0:56:28.160 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 1>fun reality show would be. I'm like, what, what have

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:31.800
<v Speaker 1>we not done yet?

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:34.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm done at all.

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, we've been in So it's called Drunk and Love

0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:40.400
<v Speaker 1>and drunk and Love and they're drunk and they're well

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 1>they are alcoholics, and they're promised an all expense paid

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 1>bar crawl. Actually they have to fall in love and

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 1>there's no alcohol.

0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 2>So they're non recovering alcohol.

0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 1>No, they're just they just love the drunkcoholics.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got it. The people that are I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>could work.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I'm actually gagging. I'm gagging to the fullest

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:10.600
<v Speaker 3>because one, if you get alcoholics in a room and

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:13.560
<v Speaker 3>they can't have alcohol, I would love to see their personality.

0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:15.320
<v Speaker 3>I would love to see.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually a good point and it's actually ethical because

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:20.240
<v Speaker 2>you are getting you are getting I mean, obviously the

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<v Speaker 2>challenge becomes, how do you find people who are alcoholics

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 2>that have not admitted to themselves yet? But let's say

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 2>somehow you do? You know, you put out a castle.

0:57:27.600 --> 0:57:30.360
<v Speaker 2>You're like, yeah, you're literally like you know, your friend,

0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 2>your uncle, your aunt, the one that you think, you're like,

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 2>literally gonna have a what's it called intervention for her

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:39.720
<v Speaker 2>next week? Lay at a month, We'll put her on TV.

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 2>You'll make a you'll make a quick buck before you

0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 2>have the intervention, and guess what, we'll keep them sober.

0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 2>We'll keep them sober, and so it's in it's in

0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 2>her best interest.

0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:50.439
<v Speaker 1>And then after I mean, it's literally intervention in the show.

0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 2>But but Horny, yeah, okay, I actually I am obsessed

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 2>with this idea. I mean, you're getting people, You're getting

0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 2>people who would have been cast for intervention, and you're saying,

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 2>wait one more month, we're going to keep you super

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:03.960
<v Speaker 2>don't worry, wait one more month, we're going to do

0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 2>a dating show. First, as you're going through it, and it.

0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Takes and it takes twenty one days to change a

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 3>bad habit. So in a month they'll be over the hump.

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:15.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how horny they'll be, but they'll be

0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:18.640
<v Speaker 3>over the hump, right. I don't know if there'll be

0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:22.560
<v Speaker 3>any love involved besides love bombing. They'll be love bombing

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:23.880
<v Speaker 3>to get some dics, but.

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:24.880
<v Speaker 2>There will be love bombing.

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Wow, George, this is a great idea.

0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:30.560
<v Speaker 1>This sounds this sounds really problematic. Yeah, and I and

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 1>good TV?

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Is it problematic?

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I actually have no idea. I'm my compass is sort

0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:37.480
<v Speaker 1>of off these days.

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Because if you think about it, if you think about it,

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 3>intervention is also problematic because someone's showing up thinking they're like, oh,

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:46.760
<v Speaker 3>we're about to have a party just with ice cream

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 3>and pizza, and it's like you are a piece of

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:53.400
<v Speaker 3>shit and we're tired of you, and we're tired of

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 3>this disease and you need help and you don't get it.

0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:59.000
<v Speaker 3>We're getting out of your life. That's kind of fucked up.

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:02.000
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, that's kind of fucked up. That's rough.

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:04.440
<v Speaker 3>It's like, okay, so when I get out of rehab,

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm not fucking with you, even though you claim they're

0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:10.360
<v Speaker 3>supposed to help me. I hate you. I fucking hate you.

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:12.640
<v Speaker 2>The only point I have to make is that I

0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:15.320
<v Speaker 2>genuinely think in the show people would find love. Well,

0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, did you guys decide the opera?

0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 3>They have to fight?

0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, because I'm like they've been they're at their lowest,

0:59:20.240 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 2>they're out their most vulnerable. I don't think all of

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:23.680
<v Speaker 2>them would find love. I think most of them would

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:26.040
<v Speaker 2>have a very bad time. Yeah, but I think two

0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 2>people out of the twenty people that are cast will

0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:32.720
<v Speaker 2>be together. They won't and they will have the most incredible.

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 3>You can have twenty alcoholics.

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:35.320
<v Speaker 2>We're not giving them any alcohol. We're not giving them

0:59:35.320 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 2>any alcohols, so it's ethical. So you can take her

0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 2>complaints to legal I.

0:59:39.320 --> 0:59:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Don't know if you've ever gone through withdraw bitch, but

0:59:41.640 --> 0:59:45.440
<v Speaker 3>somebody's getting murdered, someone is getting strong. Twenty people.

0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Nah, well, well, it's hosted by Jesse j oh No,

0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:55.720
<v Speaker 2>you know what it's hosted by. It has to be

0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 2>hosted by a famously sober celebrity. So who could that be?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that that gives it the sense of authenticity. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna look up sober celebrities.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a funny one?

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Downey Jr. I think I think he is sober.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got you like, he's got to have like a

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<v Speaker 3>wrangler to make sure when he's on set that he's

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<v Speaker 3>not getting into anything he's filming.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what I'll say. This is, in fact, who

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<v Speaker 2>is who has to host it? Dax Shepherd. What he's sober,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a huge TV personality. I'm not saying he's my choice. Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that I'm like going to bat for

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<v Speaker 2>Dak Shepherd. But realistically, if you're having this straight reality

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<v Speaker 2>show that is about sobriety, he's a very you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a famous sober person with a huge audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, our producer Olivia is also sent a list of names,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to say, Nicki Minaj is the funniest suggestion,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think she should host the show. He's sober,

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, But according to Olivia.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, man they've when they so.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the other options is Chrissy Teagan according to Olivia,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do think again not to I know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like an executive here with my Dax Shepherd suggestion,

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<v Speaker 2>but Chrissy Teagan is who they would choose absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>The only problem. The only problem is is that she's

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<v Speaker 3>notoriously known for me me me, me, me, me, me,

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<v Speaker 3>me me, right, so somehow it'll be wrapped right around her,

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<v Speaker 3>and we need people to we we can't have a

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<v Speaker 3>famous host because it needs about to be about the contestants.

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<v Speaker 3>When there's a famous host, that like is a distraction.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why Nick Lache and Vanessa are great because okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well they were famous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's so true.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, Sydney, would you do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Me? Yes? I would. The problem is I am, I

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<v Speaker 3>am sober. The problem is is that you need somebody

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<v Speaker 3>who's uplifting and and I'm just too real.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I think you have been very uplifting this

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<v Speaker 2>entire time I actually participant.

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<v Speaker 3>And now this is when you have turned. Now you're

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<v Speaker 3>a good gay man because you're like queen, yes, bitch, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Sidney, Sidney, why are you resisting your destiny? Why are

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<v Speaker 2>you resisting your destiny of being the host of the

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<v Speaker 2>world's most immoral dating But.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what it would be tea because then there's

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<v Speaker 3>like love is blind and but we should have Jessica

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<v Speaker 3>Simpson host this sober one and you know the rating

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<v Speaker 3>out the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, all right, Jessica Simpson. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It could also be commentary on other shows, because other

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<v Speaker 1>shows do like feed them alcohol to make them funk

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<v Speaker 1>up and be bad, and so it could be fun

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, no, we're not, I'm actually actively not exploitive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's sort of like taking it too far

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<v Speaker 2>in the other we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually locking them up and throwing away the key.

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<v Speaker 2>We're locking up these very vulnerable people who have an

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<v Speaker 2>addiction and we are making them go through withdrawal for

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<v Speaker 2>people's entertainment.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, the crazy thing is is that there's

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<v Speaker 3>so many like industry people listening to your pod. The

1:03:16.760 --> 1:03:19.280
<v Speaker 3>show is going to be on. Somebody is listening now,

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<v Speaker 3>writing down every little thing, and they're like, pitching the

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<v Speaker 3>show tomorrow. We need immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. All I want to do is think of more

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<v Speaker 1>of these ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're gonna have to talk to your people. You're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have to talk to your people. I know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to have me as a host, obviously I'm available.

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<v Speaker 3>But I really think Jessica Simpson would be the perfect

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<v Speaker 3>one because then she could just it could really just

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<v Speaker 3>be about her competing against Nick Lache and Vanessa. But

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<v Speaker 3>she's already went. She doesn't have to compete because she's

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<v Speaker 3>a billionaire. She's one, right, he's he's he's got to

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<v Speaker 3>be on a Netflix show handhandling fucking love and she's

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<v Speaker 3>out here like you see these sturdy esper drills. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>billionaire bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, well listen if anyone listening is interested

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<v Speaker 2>in either the horny Island with gay men, sober Island

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<v Speaker 2>with non recovering alcoholics, oh my other idea about the

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<v Speaker 2>illegal one with y I need.

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<v Speaker 3>The people to talk about this in the comments. I

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<v Speaker 3>need people to say yes or no and the reason

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<v Speaker 3>why I know yes, no reason why.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is a call to action.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a host. I'm not a host, but this

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<v Speaker 3>is a call to action to the listeners. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>need it now. You guys have to repeat this. You're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have to repeat this.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we name each of them so that people like

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<v Speaker 2>can talk about them in the comments? It was we

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<v Speaker 2>have four options.

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<v Speaker 1>Drunken love was the premise.

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<v Speaker 3>For that is great because the alcoholic are gonna follow

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<v Speaker 3>up thinking like, oh we get in drunk and they're like.

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<v Speaker 2>A lo o L yes exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Horney Island, drunken Love, top top, what's the tapas one

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<v Speaker 2>called topping?

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<v Speaker 3>Topping for tapas?

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<v Speaker 1>No, what's like surveillance tapas or surveillance surveillance sweethearts?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, I like.

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<v Speaker 2>That surveillance Sweethearts, surveillance Sweethearts?

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<v Speaker 3>I want that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Okay, great? And then did we have one more? Oh? Sam,

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<v Speaker 2>drunk oh drunken love? One was your?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So those are the three?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Great?

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<v Speaker 1>Well e should we do our final segment?

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<v Speaker 2>Sound off in the comments?

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<v Speaker 1>Sound off in the comments. Let's do it, okay, Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>Our final segment is called shout Outs, and in it

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<v Speaker 1>we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the

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<v Speaker 1>radio shout out, and we shout out to anything that

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<v Speaker 1>we are enjoying. Imagine it sees one and you're at

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<v Speaker 1>Times Square TRL shouting out to your squad back home,

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<v Speaker 1>but about anything that you like? George, do you have one?

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<v Speaker 2>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yes? Good?

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<v Speaker 2>Go hoop off? Okay, what's up listeners out there?

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<v Speaker 1>Ver?

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<v Speaker 2>So all, I want to give a hardy apology for

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<v Speaker 2>my WiFi going off and for my haunted electric raser

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<v Speaker 2>going off as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you get what you get, and as a LGBTQ

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<v Speaker 2>plus creator, I can't always do everything perfectly. And the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that I'm showing vulnerability on camera and on mike

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<v Speaker 2>is more than many of my peers have done during

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<v Speaker 2>their careers. Having said that, I want to give a

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to journaling on computer and not on a notebook.

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<v Speaker 2>For so long I have thought that you need a

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<v Speaker 2>notebook and you need a pen and paper to journal.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because I guess I grew up reading Judy Bloom,

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<v Speaker 2>God bless her. But guess what, it is a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>first century. It is twenty twenty three, and we can't

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<v Speaker 2>be nostalgic for pen and paper anymore. It is reactionary.

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<v Speaker 2>It is conservative, and it is republican. We have to

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<v Speaker 2>move forward, and we have to use technology. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to tame technology before it tames us. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>how we're gonna do that by journaling on Google Drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Put it on the cloud. I don't care who sees it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't care who reads it, because guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>I can type faster that way, and I don't write

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<v Speaker 2>as fast, and so I'm not gonna get all my

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts down on paper as fast as when I do

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<v Speaker 2>it on Google Drive. So get out there, make a

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<v Speaker 2>document on Google Drive, and how about start to write

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<v Speaker 2>down some thoughts before it's too fucking like, whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I have been doing this too. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>so genius. It's so much better because there were so

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<v Speaker 1>many times where'd be like, oh, I would journal, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have my notebook and I have to get a pen,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it would be like, just do it at

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<v Speaker 1>your computer, you stupid idiot. And it's changed everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's actually yeah no, it is so like

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<v Speaker 2>journaling with pen and paper is very sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>oh school vinyl fetishizing cassettes. It's stated, it's just like, relax,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not Jack carrollac.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I don't think I've done this one before,

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<v Speaker 1>but stop me if I have what's up everyone around

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<v Speaker 1>the globe. I want to give a huge shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Manhattan mornings. That's right. I have been going into

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan sometimes in the morning and I'll go to the

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<v Speaker 1>gym and then I'll go like to find out space

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<v Speaker 1>to work. And it has been so fun to like

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<v Speaker 1>walk down the street and be like I'm in Manhattan. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Manhattan. It's the morning. It feels a completely

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<v Speaker 1>different world. It feels a little cartoony in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that I enjoy like, and it feels like, yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck? Like for so long, I've had such a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Brooklyn and even on top of that, north

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn centric idea of NY City, and I'm starting to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, wait a minute, you can just go anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>and they're actually all different and it's so fun. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've been really enjoying Manhattan. I know that I could

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<v Speaker 1>never afford it, and but it's fun to spend the

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<v Speaker 1>morning there and walk and listen to headphone ven, drink

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<v Speaker 1>coffee xxo, Sam's very cute.

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<v Speaker 2>You are so.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so what George? So what say?

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<v Speaker 3>Door?

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<v Speaker 2>You're just so You're so Bushwick centric? I fail, You're

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<v Speaker 2>so Bushwick centric. Like I really feel like every time

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<v Speaker 2>you were in Manhattan, you're like, what am I? Carrie Bradshaw.

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<v Speaker 1>I really when I'm in Manhattan, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>moved here yesterday, Like it's truly like wow. And even

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<v Speaker 1>like I was in the East Village and like seeing

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, like the forty something like punks, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, how like lame is this like pretending

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<v Speaker 1>like you're this edgy thing when you're paying like a

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<v Speaker 1>shit ton of money for rent and like it's all

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<v Speaker 1>a facade. And then I was like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>that's literally the same as me. But in bush Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh damn, okay, let's grow up, mama,

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<v Speaker 1>and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it was nice, let's grow up and become a

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<v Speaker 2>forty year old crustpunk and we.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, let's let's stop pretending that like Bushwick is somehow

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<v Speaker 1>more valid than yeah, these other people. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like either cutting out or making really no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, Okay, Sydney, whenever you're ready, let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>fucking go.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. I would like to give a big ass shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to vander pomp Rules, because you know what, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have shit to talk about, and when I get

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<v Speaker 3>to the place and everybody's talking about it, I pretend

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<v Speaker 3>I know what I'm fucking talking about. I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to thank Lisa for putting these fucking fools together in

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<v Speaker 3>a restaurant or a bar. I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I would never step foot in, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>the drama is hot and the food is cold. I

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<v Speaker 3>love that Ronquelle or Rachel or whatever this whore is

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<v Speaker 3>is sleeping with people's man and acting so o on

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<v Speaker 3>the show. It makes a good show. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>bad show, but good show because you know what, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, the world is on fire, but this is

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<v Speaker 3>a great distraction. And when I'm not talking about Stacy

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<v Speaker 3>and her not being on the show, or that other

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<v Speaker 3>girl that's who's blonde, who's got a bad attitude, or

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<v Speaker 3>what's her name, what's her name? Oh? Oh oh, but

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<v Speaker 3>La La, Yes, La La, talking about La La and

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<v Speaker 3>you know her weird plastic surgery botox face. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm obsessed, and so it sounds like I know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about, but I don't. I've just been listening

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<v Speaker 3>to the conversations at parties and at outings and makes

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<v Speaker 3>me feel like I'm a part of the culture, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not. So I just want to thank this really good,

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<v Speaker 3>bad show for bringing all walks of life together to

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<v Speaker 3>hate on Roquel.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful, so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was everything and nothing. So I'm proud of myself.

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<v Speaker 1>It was everything.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I love it, and so I hadn't watched it

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<v Speaker 2>in many, many years, and I finally broke down when

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<v Speaker 2>I was home in Greece. I watched two full seasons. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I just like whenever everyone else would go to sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>I would go to my bedroom and watch it. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's I'm really back in it. I'm back in it

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<v Speaker 2>in a bad way.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't mention that, like, is that you giving me

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<v Speaker 3>the light?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you believe that it started? Write it? No, it

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<v Speaker 2>literally just started again. It started again. As we're having

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<v Speaker 2>literally three different kinds of connectivity issues, my razors started

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<v Speaker 2>up again. All right, you know what I'm using it?

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is now a weapon and I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to say about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney, thanks for doing the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say that I never know if

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<v Speaker 3>it went well or it didn't, but I do know

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<v Speaker 3>that we finally saw each other and it felt good

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<v Speaker 3>seeing your faces, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. And I agree with that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Sidney. There is no one else I would want to

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<v Speaker 2>spend a Tuesday afternoon with, And there is no one

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<v Speaker 2>else I would want to show my razor. I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never felt this more special in my life, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to I just want you to know

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<v Speaker 3>that you are shifting the culture you know that. Well, well,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody is doing shaving.

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<v Speaker 2>We are shaving the culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Outside doing man on the street in stupid parks. You

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<v Speaker 3>guys are in in the house, in the pods, dissecting

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<v Speaker 3>straight culture.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in We're in the pods, in the Love Is

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<v Speaker 1>Blind pods.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, folks, we're in the Love is Blind Pods.

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<v Speaker 2>The going off razor is going off and it's thank

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<v Speaker 2>you everyone, goodbye.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, we did it, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't this insane