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Speaker 1: First of all, I want to say what's up to

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Speaker 1: the freaks, the losers, and yes, the perverts. It's Sam

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Speaker 1: here with a quick announcement to remind you that I'm

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Speaker 1: doing my solo show club comic in Los Angeles, California,

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Speaker 1: Baby on May tenth at Dynasty Typewriter with opener Rachel Pegram.

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Speaker 1: This is my solo show that is sort of a

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Speaker 1: comedy concert experience in which I do comedic club tracks

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Speaker 1: with videos and stand up. You know, I imagine if

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Speaker 1: the CHROMATICA Ball were in fact dumb. And I've done

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Speaker 1: it twice in New York now and not to be

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Speaker 1: a complete and utter bitch, but both of which were

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Speaker 1: sold out smashes, and so I would love to see

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Speaker 1: you in LA. Sorry for believing in myself that one

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Speaker 1: time when I said that they were good shows, but

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Speaker 1: that this one won't also be a sleigh and a half.

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Speaker 1: But seriously, I would love to see their Dynasty Typewriter.

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Speaker 1: Get tickets in my bio or even at Dynasty Typewriter website,

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Speaker 1: and Okay, I'll see you soon. Xoxo. Enjoy the episode.

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Speaker 1: Bye Sam. Podcasts starts. Now, Wow, here we are after

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Speaker 1: you know, I want to give some context, and I

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Speaker 1: know we.

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Speaker 2: Should because otherwise there's otherwise, Like people don't know.

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Speaker 1: People have no idea. People. People see us as podcasters

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Speaker 1: and they put us on this pedestal and they think, oh,

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Speaker 1: they must be perfect. Oh they're they're they're doing this

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Speaker 1: once a week. Wrong. We have been not We have

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Speaker 2: Over a month, yeah, a month. I believe it has

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Speaker 2: been a month. I have been quite frankly globe trotting.

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Speaker 2: I have been quite frankly globe trotting, and there's no

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Speaker 2: was at a lesbian wedding in Mexico, and then I

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Speaker 2: because that's not possible.

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, Wow, what did you learn about family by

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Speaker 2: Nothing good. I'm trying to think if I have any

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Speaker 2: our illustrious guests. But you know, I do always forget.

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Speaker 2: And once again, I don't want to be one of

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I do know what you mean.

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Speaker 1: It's very unfortunate when you know, you know how when

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Speaker 1: we're doing this podcast, sometimes we'll be talking about like

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So yeah, and so I guess that's what I learned.

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Speaker 2: Right? You haven't. You haven't really made any big realizations

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Speaker 1: He should have said it was a lesbian wedding exactly.

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Speaker 1: If I knew Cloud Atless was a lesbian wedding, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, we have to bring in our guest.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, what what an intro. There was a lot

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Speaker 3: to unpack. I mean, you just wear in the world.

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Speaker 3: Is Carmen San Diego having living, laughing, traveling and getting

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Speaker 2: And thank you for immediately volunteering to do the heavy lifting. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You were in the middle, You're you're in.

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Speaker 1: They also it gets performative in its unhingedness, where it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: Let's not pretend that you're not actually like putting in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also just yeah, I do I agree with

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Speaker 3: So you're not onto, Well so you're better than.

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Speaker 1: Well, George, I like this. I think everyone's desperate for

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Speaker 2: I know what you're saying is so I was actually, uh,

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Speaker 2: Yea, do I need Yeah, they don't even have to

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Speaker 3: Do I need health insurance for that? Do they take

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, it's classic. Yeah, it's a classics defense.

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Speaker 3: You've sat you've sat in whole foods and went circles

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Speaker 3: me this new Hummus tip dip with like the chili paste.

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Speaker 3: Give it to me.

437
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 2: Mm hm oh my god, delicious. But it And also

438
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: then you're like, Okay, I'm better than that. Well, okay,

439
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 2: where's your novel? Literally? Where is the proof footage? Not found? Sweetie?

440
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 2: For where is the proof that you're better than that? Okay,

441
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: you're better than making TikTok videos? Where is the Academy

442
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 2: Award nominated screenplay? Because I don't see it? Yeah, damn,

443
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: it's not in my Google drive.

444
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: You're being harsh, you're being harsh on yourself, and you're

445
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: being harsh on others. I feel I feel that, like,

446
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: like we do know that social media, while it can

447
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: be a tool, and while it can be helpful, it

448
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 1: also is so emotionally exhausting. It's learning a new language.

449
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 1: There's new trends, there's new ways of speaking, there's new

450
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: and we've been through it with a few at this point,

451
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: and we know that it's like, yes, you can blow

452
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: up on it, but also you can blow up on

453
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: it and it can be really short lived, or you

454
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: can blow upon it and like doesn't lead to anything.

455
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: It's like, I think, obviously you shouldn't necessarily be afraid

456
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: of it, and like there's value in like sort of

457
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: dipping your toe in and seeing how it feels.

458
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Speaker 4: I'm fright, and every day I wake up in a

459
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 4: pool of sweat because I'm like, well, I need to promote,

460
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 4: but I don't have content?

461
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: So how do you promote right without the content? And

462
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 3: it's like, what were we doing? What were we doing

463
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 3: six years ago?

464
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,719
Speaker 1: What were we doing posting hot picks on Insta exactly?

465
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 3: And we've gone so far from it. And that's why

466
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 3: I know. I know that the world is ending very soon,

467
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: very soon.

468
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I'm just getting a live feed. George's parents

469
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: have stopped yelling. I think the world is ending.

470
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: My parents have stoped yelling. The leves Gans have gotten

471
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: a divorce, and everyone is posting hole on their faces.

472
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: Finally find it in peace. Okay, we need to do

473
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: our first segments so that then we can finally learn

474
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: what Sydney's surprise topic is because the suspense is killing me.

475
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: I also want to say, just comment on the podcast

476
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: when we make the podcast. It has been long enough

477
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: where I'm like, wow, I forgot we were going into

478
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,959
Speaker 1: our first topic. And also I feel, you know, friend vibes.

479
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 1: It's interesting to try to truly talk about something that

480
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: makes us kind of anxious, and I'm kind of impressed

481
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: that we've like tried and I think succeeded at least

482
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Speaker 1: to expressing how we feel.

483
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Speaker 3: We're intellects, just so you know, and first and foremost, Yeah,

484
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: so I think out of all of the people that

485
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: we know, when it's time to sit down and be transparent,

486
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: we are transparent. And we're not putting on a thing

487
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 3: that's true, like we can step out of the show

488
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: and unfortunate you shouldn't be doing that on podcasts, but

489
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: here we are.

490
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: If nothing else. You know, we may not be viral

491
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: on TikTok, but we are able to be transparent on.

492
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: Honey, not even opaque, completely transparent. Okay, wow, Sydney.

493
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: Okay.

494
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,

495
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: we ask you a series of rapid fire questions to

496
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: gauge your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture. The

497
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: only rule is you can't ask any followup questions or

498
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: we will yell at.

499
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: You if I like getting yelled at.

500
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: That's a question, George, do you want to kick us off?

501
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: Yes? Damn it. I just thought of another, an extra

502
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 2: one outside while I was taking my little pre show walk,

503
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: and now I can't remember it. Okay, Sydney, keeping the

504
00:24:54,480 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: haters at bay or searching porn hub for gay h Yeah?

505
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 3: Wait, is it? That's all one thing you can Okay, Okay,

506
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: keeping the haters at bay or or searching the porn hub.

507
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: For gay porn hub. Forget.

508
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say straight this is straight culture, Sydney.

509
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: You've done the show before. You have to pick one or.

510
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: The Okay, Okay, Sorry.

511
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm really actually wait, you know what I should

512
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: not have correct you, because that is that is the

513
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 2: most iconic. Don't do that.

514
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: Don't do that because I did a show, I did

515
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: a podcast keep it, and I have I have heard,

516
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: I've heard the episodes. But when it was time to

517
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: do keep it, it was clear that I did not know.

518
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: I didn't know how it went, and the people dragged me.

519
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that you fixed this. I'm going to say, uh,

520
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 3: searching the porn hub for.

521
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: Gay Okay, Sydney, the tooth fairy or the dental hygienist.

522
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: The tooth fairy.

523
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I just remember the one. I just remember

524
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: the one that I was gonna do. Okay, much ado

525
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 2: about nothing? Or Scooby Doo eating a muffin. I'm sorry,

526
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any.

527
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: Sense much to do about nothing?

528
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Sydney, bo is afraid? Or Bunny is a rider? Ooh,

529
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: that's good.

530
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 3: Bunny is a rider.

531
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Speaker 2: Okay, Sydney getting the Sunday Scaries or reading Tuesdays with Maury.

532
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: I love that.

533
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: Love a slant reading the Tuesdays with Maury.

534
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Sydney. Twist it, pull it or bop.

535
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 3: It oo bop it Okay.

536
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: Sydney, Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, or Poudy with

537
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: a chance of cussing you out.

538
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 3: Powdy Bowdy with a chance of cussing you out. I

539
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: feel like I feel like can we just I feel

540
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 3: like I'm bombing. I'm bombing and no, no you're not.

541
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: You know is bombing? You know who is bombing me.

542
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: Sam's reactions to every straight shoot I have said so

543
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: far are the most disgusted. He has ever he has

544
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 2: ever seen with me.

545
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: No, I love the rhyme. I love the slam.

546
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 3: It's okay, keep going, keep going, okay, Sam go okay,

547
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 3: speaking your truth or hearing Charlie pouth Mmm speaking your truth,

548
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: speaking your truth?

549
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Wait, I actually do have another one, since I

550
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: since I did the extual one, ringing the bell at

551
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 2: the New York Stock Exchange or going through Hell at

552
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: the New York Saint Patrick's Day parade.

553
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 3: Oh oh, that's a tough one. I'm going to say

554
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: the same Sat Patrick's Day, going through Hell.

555
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, wow, okay, Now we have to rank your

556
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: performance on a scale of one to one thousand doves.

557
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: And guess what what what a thousand and one? A

558
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: thousand and one does a thousand and one doves? And

559
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: and actually to sort of see through the matrix, can

560
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: you guys hear that buzzing sound because I have a

561
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: story about it. No, no, okay, you will never believe

562
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: what is currently happening?

563
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: What what so?

564
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: This happened? This happened earlier. I'm alone in my house. Okay,

565
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 2: I'm alone in my house. I'm alone in the house.

566
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: I suddenly hear a buzzing sound. I say, what is that?

567
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Go to the bathroom. My electric razor has turned on

568
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: on its own and won't turn off. I'm prising the button,

569
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: I sort of. God, I'm not lying, I'm not like exaggerating. Literally,

570
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: it had turned on on its own. It was not

571
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: even like placed so that the button was touching something.

572
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: It literally just turned on its own, wouldn't turn off.

573
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 2: I tried to turn it out, tried to turn it off,

574
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: and then it turned off on its own, and as

575
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: we were doing the segment, it started doing it again,

576
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: and there's just a buzz happening in the bathroom. Well,

577
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna actually hold on. I'm going to bring it

578
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: here that everyone, and can.

579
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: I just want to let you know that I feel

580
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: like this is a great start to a pilot and

581
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: I think you should do something with this.

582
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's it's you and the buzzer, and the

583
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: buzzer is haunted by the ghost of.

584
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: Can you hear this?

585
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

586
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, it's not it's not. It legitimately

587
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: turned on out of nowhere, and so how there's nothing

588
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: I can do about it, and.

589
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: You can't do anything.

590
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: I can't take the batteries off. It's a rechargeable thing.

591
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: It just is literally going off.

592
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: But I want to say, I want to say that

593
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: this is the most hateful thing you can have to

594
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: a lesbian being on the pod right now? Why this

595
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: razor just going off while we were having.

596
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: Oh, because it's such a sign of masculine Yeah.

597
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: We were having like such a moment and we were

598
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: like really building up and then this just razor is

599
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: like no silence or silence.

600
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: I know. Well, this it's a very masculine presenting razor

601
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: and I think you know, it lives in a gay household,

602
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: and it's so sick of the f slurs that are

603
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: walking around all day and then it has to hear me,

604
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: you know, squeal on a gay podcast all day long.

605
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: At some point it says it not fed out, get

606
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: me out here.

607
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: And it just so happened while me here me.

608
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, it's true. I mean, you know what

609
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: I say to the razor that's going off, ringing, the

610
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: going off, alarm ring, going off.

611
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: Larm ring, the going off razor. Oh my god, Well

612
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: you know what we made it? To go back to

613
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: the segment, I think Sydney that you were you gave

614
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: a virtue also performance. I think you know, it was

615
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: giving Amanda Seifried and the dropout. You understood the assignment.

616
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: You understood the assignment. It was also you know, talk

617
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: about RuPaul coming to your table and saying, you know,

618
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: just be vulnerable, be yourself. And I felt like that's

619
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: really what came through, was the true you. And you know, yeah,

620
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: flaws and all, but that can be so so powerful

621
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: for people to relate to.

622
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: Wow, then I agree, you know what, this was.

623
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: True to you, bitch, you are authentic. It was finsta.

624
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: It was it was sort of like, oh, she's spent

625
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: pandemic becoming more real and not more fake. That was

626
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: that was the spirit.

627
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: She's the type that's like, you know what, grammatical errors

628
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: are just me and you're gonna have to put up

629
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: with it.

630
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: You know. I believe in that.

631
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: Actually I have never heard you make a grammatical error

632
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: in your entire life. I feel like you're someone who

633
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: really speaks in complete sentences.

634
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. But then I then I like, hear a recording

635
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: of myself and I'm like.

636
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 2: Rare, oh same. Oh it's actually crazy the way that

637
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: in my mind I am constantly speaking as though I

638
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: am giving a commencement address, and then I listened back

639
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: to recording and I'm like, oh, do I speak English?

640
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, Yeah.

641
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: It can be pretty embarrassing sometimes if I don't listen,

642
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: I think I crushed. And then I'll listen back and

643
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: like I'm doing like internet voice, like I'm doing like

644
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: like trying to be cutesy voice or something that tris

645
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: me crazy.

646
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: And that's why you got to never listen back. You

647
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: just got to believe. You got to be in the

648
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: delusion so hard that it keeps you going. It's a

649
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: delusion that I want to be on flight delusion. Okay,

650
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: air delusion. If possible, get me first class tickets to that,

651
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: because then it just gives you the will to keep going.

652
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: That's so beautiful.

653
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Should we go to law school?

654
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: No?

655
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so long?

656
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean I think I know if you put the

657
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: work and did your TikTok that you would have to

658
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: find in law school. Actually you certainly won't.

659
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: Wait. That actually feels like a great like unscripted show

660
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: that feels like a challenge show where it's like two

661
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: people challenge each other. One is to do well on

662
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: TikTok and the other one is to finish law school.

663
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: Law school, Who comes out on I would love that

664
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: who comes out.

665
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: On top gets rich first. It's like one of those

666
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: programs where you follow like it's like a long term

667
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: documentary where it's like Boyhood. You follow them for like

668
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: literally twenty years and see a home.

669
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very which way modern man.

670
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's fun. Yeah.

671
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: I mean in some ways those are the two paths

672
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 2: in life. Is either going to law school or going

673
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: viral on TikTok. And let me tell you something I

674
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: haven't accomplished either yet.

675
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: Oh brother, happening for a darling not happening for.

676
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: Okay? Said, we asked you in the beginning, We were like,

677
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: do you want to surprise us or do you want

678
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: to tell us ahead of time? And Sam, you actually

679
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: were came out pro surprise.

680
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it could really keep us on our

681
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: toes to not know the topic ahead of time.

682
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: It's been forever since we've done that. I'm scared you

683
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: should be thing letting.

684
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: We just have to learn that. Let go.

685
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I have to let go.

686
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: Well.

687
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: We also we also learned that like the way that

688
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: I'm so spontaneous, it actually is more beneficial for the pod.

689
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: Well, famously your first episode. I remember you had come

690
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: in with a different topic, and because there was so much,

691
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: so much miscommunication, we had decided the topic would be miscommunication.

692
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: Was beautiful, it was so good.

693
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: And it was honestly one of our best episodess.

694
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know if y'all hated me after or you

695
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: all were like, oh my god, I think this bron

696
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: is closer.

697
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: We could that you that we are like that were

698
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: like criticizing you behind your back or something.

699
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 3: Well, you know you're gay, So is it phils on grass?

700
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: True? Yeah, a well dressed woman. So yeah, and that's

701
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: the only defense against gay people talking about your mind?

702
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: Right, you're right, my bad. Let me check. Let me

703
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: check the textbook again, because of what page is that.

704
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: On rules and regulations? Okay, so sid I think without

705
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: further ado, what is this surprise topic?

706
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: It would be dating shows, Dating shows straight. Yeah, it's

707
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 3: like this, it's the straightest thing that you can possibly

708
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: have because instead of it's like just date and have

709
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 3: a life, it's like, nope, we gotta show it off.

710
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: We got to show how bad we are at this

711
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: and then have some kind of gain from it.

712
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: That is soul and dating shows are a perfect thing

713
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: that like that, like literally, no matter how many times

714
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: they try to make them gay, it simply doesn't work.

715
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: Like you have to be a specific kind of delusional

716
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: that you can only be if you are heterosexual. Like, yes,

717
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: gay people can be and I'm not saying gay people

718
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: are better or any Gay people can be messy on TV.

719
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: They can better, they can be well they're better in

720
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: some ways, but you know, they can be messy, they

721
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: can be mean, they can be cruel, whatever, but they

722
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: will never be the girl on the Bachelor that is

723
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: looking for love.

724
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 3: Never.

725
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think also straight relationships already have been

726
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: gamified like in real life, Like it is very like

727
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: do you have sex on the first date? Okay? Do

728
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: you like like move in after a year? Okay, you've

729
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: been dating for three years? Why are you not engaged yet?

730
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: Like there's already this like clear path that it like

731
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: it actually does click for a TV show because you

732
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: can like play with these markers and it makes sense

733
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: where it's like gay people are like, well, my relationship,

734
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: we've been together for ten years and we don't live

735
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: together and that's beautiful and it's.

736
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: Now and now we're Polly, and now we're poly.

737
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: And now we're Polly. Yeah. Well, actually we've been we're

738
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: never getting married, but we're Yeah.

739
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: Actually we've been Polly the whole time, but we just

740
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: never like solidified it and made it official. And now

741
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: we did and we're still going to be together and

742
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: it's okay.

743
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, whereas with straight contestants, they're like, are we getting married?

744
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 2: Because otherwise I'll kill myself.

745
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's very linear, which makes for an easy narrative

746
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: in television.

747
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: And also, you know, it's funny like dating shows are

748
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: one of the only places left where marriage means something.

749
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: Yes, totally but what.

750
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: But what exactly does it mean? If anything? Putting it

751
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 3: on TV? Let's us know how fucking stupid marriage is.

752
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: Like the definition of it by who defined marriage? Someone straight?

753
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: Yes, well Jesus Christ.

754
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: Whoa questioning?

755
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: I guess he died single? Oh you know, no one

756
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: talks about that. Yes, but by a.

757
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Bachelor legend Jesus Christ.

758
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. Honestly, he was the original bachelor.

759
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: Okay, another show, pitch, Another show pitch, Jesus.

760
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: Says, another bachelor. He was the original bachelor. And then

761
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: Mary Magdalen was sort of the slighty dental head genist

762
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: who was like I want him, but me. She was like,

763
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: when we went on those bumper cars, I knew that

764
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: the way he looked at me was not the way

765
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: he looked at the other girls.

766
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: Okay, so about marriage being real for straight people, it

767
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: is like a fun prize to win, like in the

768
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: same way that when you're on like a competition reality show,

769
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you're gonna win one hundred thousand dollars,

770
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: and it's like yes for someone that like like that's

771
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: a big bump in money, but it's like you're not

772
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: like chilling for life now, like you still have like

773
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: like in a year or whatever, you have to pick

774
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: your job back up, and so like it's not like

775
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: this big win, but it has the same ring as like,

776
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: well we pretend it.

777
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: Is so that this show is fun marriage.

778
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: You mean, yeah, yeah, well, because it's like at least

779
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: the money is tangible.

780
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: If you do want like a person, if you want

781
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: like a monogamous partner for life and that's like a

782
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: goal of yours, then this promises that, like this is

783
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: like a get rich scheme, but for relationships where it's like,

784
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: well you're not actually winning a lifetime partner. You're winning

785
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: the show. The fact that you won over the course

786
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: of three months does not mean you're going to be

787
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: together forever just because you are married. And it's almost

788
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: like a shortcut to this like life partner that is

789
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: like not real.

790
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: Exactly, And it's weird because it's like it's under the guys.

791
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: It's like love is blind love it we don't want

792
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: love to be blind. Actually, I want my love to

793
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: have all of the sight so that they're making proper choices.

794
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: I want my love to be rational.

795
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 2: Decision yeah, one of the yes. And Nick and Vanessa, Lasha,

796
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: you know, I don't trust tell me.

797
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: And they're they're like so obsessed with themselves that they

798
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: don't really care about the benefit of the contestants. Also

799
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: very very call them.

800
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, they don't care. They do not have the contestants'

801
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 2: best interests. That hat don't.

802
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: They don't because as hosts, it's like you're supposed to

803
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: kind of be in this middle ground, which is like no,

804
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 3: get in there and be like you know what, bitch,

805
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: you suck. That's why no one wants.

806
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: To be with you.

807
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: Well, they are funny because it's like you know, they

808
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: it's not like Nick and Vanessa la Schet created the show.

809
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: This isn't like their big theory that love is blind.

810
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: They just got this job. I mean, they are television

811
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: personalities who got this job as hosts. But then their

812
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: job now is to have to pretend that they're the

813
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: ones that pioneered this idea that love is blind. So

814
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: they feel so strongly about it, and they're like, you

815
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: guys are in the number one first ever social media

816
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: experiment where we figure out if love is blind, and

817
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: Vanessa is sort of like in her sort of straighter

818
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 2: lab drag with her with her lab code, and because.

819
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what really gets me But okay,

820
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: you know what really gets me hot about these dating

821
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: shows too. It's like, if you guys really cared about love,

822
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 3: I need everybody to stop looking TV ready. I want

823
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: off the stre I want rough draft, I want people

824
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 3: who's ashy, elbows, missing limbs, I want a lazy eye.

825
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: I want fucking receipting airlines. I want if it's really

826
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: about what it's supposed to be, then why is this

827
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 3: so glamorized?

828
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's sort of a final taboo is getting

829
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: ugly people to date on TV, it's not. And by

830
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: the way, ugly ugly and smart, ugly and smart people like.

831
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 2: The only way to actually have a proper dating show

832
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: that has anything to offer is to basically get and

833
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: this is why it's impossible, is to get people who

834
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: don't want to be on TV to be hones.

835
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 3: Yes, yep, because then you'll get Then you'll get something

836
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: that's actually more authentic, something that's actually like they're being

837
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: themselves because they actually are dreading being on the fucking show.

838
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: Yes, guess what. The best reality the best dating show

839
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 2: on television right now is Couple's Therapy on Showtime or

840
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: have you watched.

841
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 3: No, No, No, what tell me about it.

842
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: I've talked about it on the podcast before. But it

843
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: is this woman, doctor Orna. She is a psychoanalyst and

844
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: she basically I mean, they do offer the couples free

845
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: therapy for being on the show. But I'm not joking

846
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: when I say that these are not couples that are

847
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: like desperate to be reality stars, like they are genuinely

848
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 2: couples that are being honest and real about their problems

849
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 2: and saying things that are shocking to think that they

850
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: are putting them out there for like their children to see.

851
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: And it is literally like you are following them for

852
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't remember, you know, eight or ten episodes, and

853
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: you follow these four couples and they hash everything out

854
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: and some of them make it and some of them don't.

855
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: Some of them uncover things they did not think they

856
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: were going to uncover. And so that to me, if

857
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: you want to talk about authentic is the only is

858
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: the only alternative I can offer. The other thing I

859
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: will say about dating shows is that one of the

860
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: things that sort of makes them straight is that they

861
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: are shining a light on the inherent ridiculousness of dating culture,

862
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 2: like the fact that they have to keep coming up

863
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: with new places for these people to go on dates,

864
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: Like they're going to go bumper cars, they are going

865
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: to go to an escape room. They're going to go

866
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: to a sunset hike. They're going to go to, you know,

867
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 2: a restaurant where they're blindfolded. They're going to go to

868
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: a restaurant that's only raw squid. And so it's because

869
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: that is basically just the heightened version of what straight

870
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 2: dating is. It's like people that hate each other thinking

871
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: of new activities to do so they can spend money, get.

872
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: To it there.

873
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: It is.

874
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 3: Drag them please.

875
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: I want to say first of all, that couples therapy

876
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: shows sounds incredible, and it's funny that a show exists

877
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: only because therapy is so expensive that people would willingly

878
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: like go on TV and like air out their fucking

879
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: issues because they cannot afford to pay three hundred dollars

880
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 1: a session or whatever.

881
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 3: The fuck it's so much. It's so much, and they don't.

882
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: It's so much like we every day we realize they're like, oh,

883
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: this is not set up for us to be well

884
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: or do well or have money. So it's like these

885
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: shows kind of rub in our face how dumb we are,

886
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 3: and we keep eating it up. We're like, give me more,

887
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: I want second, third, spor give me a buffet of it.

888
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: And it's so annoying. I'm like, stop with the shows.

889
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: Just stop.

890
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: But don't you think that it's also like that you're

891
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: also sort of comforted by how superior you feel. Like

892
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: it's like you're watching people and you're like, well, these

893
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: people are idiots. I'm not like that, like when you're

894
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: watching Love is Blind or something.

895
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't feel such superior.

896
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 3: No, because it just reminds me of like, oh, I'm

897
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: just dumb. I'm just smart enough not to get on

898
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: TV and follow this, but I will get somebody else's

899
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 3: script that I will audition for and self tape thirteen

900
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: thousand times for them to tell me, no, we're looking

901
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: for something else, but we'll keep you in the mix,

902
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: you know, like it's the.

903
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: It's the same shit.

904
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

905
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost more embarrassing when I'm doing these auditions

906
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: for things that I don't think will be good and

907
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: and and then being rejected and be like, oh damn,

908
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm so pitiful.

909
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.

910
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's like if you're it's TikTok all

911
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 2: over again. Yeah. It's like if our goal is essentially

912
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 2: to be in any way on camera, Okay, yes, yes,

913
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 2: then then how dumb are we not to simply respond

914
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: to a cast and call for a dating show.

915
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: And it's so funny that we're talking like this and

916
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 3: we're all gay in a relationship, long time gain.

917
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: A relationship, and also, by the way, willingly having a

918
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: conversation that is being recorded for people to consume. So

919
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: what the hell do we think.

920
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: I'm here to help, though I'm literally like I want

921
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: to be as more not like I'm telling it like

922
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: it is, but i just want to be more honest

923
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: in the sense that like, yo, nobody knows what they're doing.

924
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: We're all confused, we're all just trying it out. But

925
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: it's like, but don't sit here on your ha horse

926
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 3: behind your fucking keyboard and say X, Y and Z

927
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: about things when it's like, hey, we know things too,

928
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: and that's why we deserve a mic.

929
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: And said you are preaching today.

930
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: Truly, so I'm like, wow, okay.

931
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: I can never when you start a sentence, I can

932
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: never tell who you are mad at and who you

933
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: are aligning yourself with until the sentence is over it truly,

934
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm truly I feel like I'm like in church.

935
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm also just like wait, like yeah, like waiting to

936
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: sort of see what the yeah, who you're mad at

937
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: before I like celebrate or not.

938
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: Like I'm sort of like yeah, yeah, I just sometimes

939
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: they'll start nodding and that it's very much like Winona

940
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: Ryder when they won the MB and she was like

941
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 2: in the background nodding and then shaking her head. That's

942
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: me every time you start a new sentence and by

943
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: the end I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right.

944
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 3: And that's why you guys are bad gays, because you're

945
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: listening and you're waiting, and it's like you're just supposed

946
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 3: to be like.

947
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's actually a good point. You are.

948
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: We are.

949
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: I say something, you're immediately to be on board. And

950
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because you're in New York

951
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: and you're not like yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

952
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: If we were LA, we would be snapping. We would

953
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: have been snapping at you.

954
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: The whole time.

955
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So okay. I googled dating shows just to

956
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: sort of get a little get a little inspired. I mean,

957
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: so many of them, so you know, there's married at

958
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: first Sight, there's the Bachelor, there's all of them. Really

959
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: do I think the default is for them to end

960
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: in marriage? And then even the ones that are different

961
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: where it's like f Boy Island, it's sort of like, well,

962
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: the twist is that they are f boys, but we

963
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: want to tame the or you know, but we want

964
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: to like choose the good ones from the bad ones.

965
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: It's still sort of like re reifying this model of

966
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: like what is good is a man and a woman

967
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 2: getting married.

968
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: Well, And this is what I loved. I loved so

969
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: much about sort of early two thousand dating shows from

970
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: MTV where the goal was never marriage and it was

971
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: way more up front about like we are just putting

972
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: people in a weird scenario.

973
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: Comedy gol.

974
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: Next, I'm talking about Next, I'm talking about Room.

975
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: Raiders, Room Raiders, First Day, Date my Mom, Date my Mom.

976
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: Like, this stuff was funny. This stuff is like a

977
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: sketch camera show New York.

978
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, like just.

979
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: Real, full blown, Like you can take excerpts from it

980
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: and just use it as a meme. You can pull

981
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: from any of those shows, post it on TikTok, go viral.

982
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: Because the ship was like it was in that certain

983
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 3: time that you're like, man, I didn't even realize how

984
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: fucking genius this was. It was real entertainment.

985
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: There were fully comedians behind the scenes, I mean, and.

986
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: Dating shows in the early two thousands.

987
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: Yah yah.

988
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: He art form I mean next, Room Raiders specifically and

989
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: Date my Mom were fully I mean, it was it

990
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: was John Waters, I mean Room.

991
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: Raiders every time when they like look at their underwear

992
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: and I would be like, like every single time you're

993
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: seeing underwear.

994
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and that black light. When that black light

995
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 3: comes on, you're like.

996
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh oh, he came everywhere.

997
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 3: His comment is every oh my god, he's so dirty dirty.

998
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: It was also no matter what type of underwear there was,

999
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: it would always be like hell no, like it would

1000
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: like no rhyme or reason to it. I don't like

1001
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: a guy that wears any underwear. It was juicy, juicy

1002
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: U se u.

1003
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: See if he's not if he's not commando, I don't

1004
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: want it.

1005
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: Sounds like his dick and balls are small. I'm not interested.

1006
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: If his scrotum is not chafing up against some denims,

1007
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: some endig dems, I don't want it.

1008
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a funny time, very homophobic, and yet

1009
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: the formats were.

1010
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: Getting yo, truly the biggest the highlight of the homophobia

1011
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 3: in terms of like entertainment. But you just have to laugh,

1012
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: You just constantly have.

1013
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: You do have to laugh. And I also feel like

1014
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 2: in the early odds, Okay, so here's a sort of theory.

1015
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: I feel like in the early odds culture had not

1016
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: been corrupted by you know, social media oversaturation of just

1017
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: like insane people on TV whatever, like reality shows are

1018
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: still in new so they there was a real spirit

1019
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: of experimentation with dating shows because like most people were

1020
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: dating normally. They didn't even have dating apps, you know,

1021
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: most people were just like going on dates normally, getting married,

1022
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And so they were like, okay, dating shows,

1023
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: this is a chance to really have some fun with it,

1024
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: Whereas I think now the prevailing attitude is like we've

1025
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: lost our way as a society and it is time

1026
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: love made a comeback. So now dating shows are actually

1027
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: fundamentally conservative because they are, if anything, trying to bring

1028
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: back traditional values in dating.

1029
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: That is so true. I think that's a genius point.

1030
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: George, every every day, every time I get on this podcast,

1031
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, George fucking reads Man's.

1032
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, all of this is in books. All

1033
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: of this is in books. And let me tell you something.

1034
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: You know, It's like now real life is room Raiders,

1035
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: and next like if you just go on you know,

1036
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: Instagram and TikTok or whatever, everyone is basically trying to

1037
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: do some home brewed version of early odds reality TV,

1038
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: whether it's like Man on the Street segments, whether it's

1039
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: like oh we took a photo of this woman before

1040
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 2: and after we said she's beautiful. Like, it's all literally

1041
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: people trying to do like their own DIY version of

1042
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: whatever was going on on MTV and VH one in

1043
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: the early odds. So then Netflix comes along and it's like,

1044
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: you know, we're missing just a guy and a girl

1045
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: falling in love.

1046
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: It's some contrived though.

1047
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so early odds reality shows, progressive queer lgbt Q,

1048
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: current dating shows, family values. Yeah, okay, So I guess

1049
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 2: the question that remains is where do we go from here?

1050
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: Sam and I have already thought of a gay reality

1051
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: show called what is it called? Sam?

1052
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm everything I've ever said. I've completely and instantly forgotten.

1053
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: Please remind me what was the.

1054
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: It's the premise was that you like, can't be horny,

1055
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: and then if you're horny, you it's like and then

1056
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: you have to be It's like you.

1057
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: Have to you lose it. You can't remember horny.

1058
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: You have to time, you have to stay the whole time.

1059
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 2: You get voted off if you're a flask. But but

1060
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: but but this is all gay man, It's all they

1061
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: have to be hard the whole time.

1062
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: But you can't come.

1063
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: But you can't come. You have to be hard and

1064
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't be flaccid, and you can't eraculate.

1065
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: I forgot the rule. I'm watching Where do I sign

1066
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: in the middle?

1067
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: Where do I sign up? How do I get it?

1068
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: It's on free v on Amazon? So okay, So Sidney,

1069
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: what would your ideal dating show be?

1070
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: Like, what is my ideal dating show? It would be

1071
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 3: hitting cameras. It would be hitting. It would be hitting

1072
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 3: camera for sure, and it would literally, let's get hitting camera,

1073
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: even though it's against the law, but we need to

1074
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 3: show people exactly who they are under the guise of

1075
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 3: them really being authentic, and then we could be and

1076
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: then we put things on the scoreboard. And it's like, bitch,

1077
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: you keep telling people that these men are the problem.

1078
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 3: It's absolutely you, and stop saying it's because you're an aries. Okay,

1079
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: it's just because you are bad. You are bad at communicating.

1080
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 3: Your standards are ridiculous. You know, I think people people

1081
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 3: need to see that mirror, which they don't because you know,

1082
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 3: you post something on Instagram and people are like, I

1083
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: love you, You're the best, you are a genius, and

1084
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: it's just like I don't want I don't.

1085
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: I don't.

1086
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 3: I don't want reddit energy, but I do want things

1087
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: to be a little bit or.

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00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: You want to be. You want to call someone's workplace

1089
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: and say she has her standards to high fire her.

1090
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you're pointing to the to the main problem,

1091
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: as always with reality TV, is that the one limitation

1092
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: is that it's people who want to be on television

1093
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 2: Like that is the one limitation of reality TV. It

1094
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: is people. Even when it's hidden cameras, they have to

1095
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 2: sign away. There is no way to actually get anything

1096
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 2: that is I don't want to use the word authentic,

1097
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: but anything that is spontaneous or real on camera. So

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00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: basically what you're saying, they do it on TikTok.

1099
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 3: They do hidden stuff on TikTok all the time.

1100
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: I guess that TikTok again, it.

1101
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: Goes haywire left and right. But I think that's more honest.

1102
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: But even then, the person who's creating it, they have

1103
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 3: a little bit, they have too much power in it,

1104
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 3: so they can skew it in any kind of way.

1105
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: But I think we all just need to sit back

1106
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: and realize that we all have issues and nobody is

1107
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: the best of anything. Saying nobody's at ten. Nobody's like.

1108
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: Just get it to the point of like, if we

1109
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 3: start looking at each other as equals and better than

1110
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 3: like he's better, she's better, there be like then we

1111
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 3: can really get to back to dating properly.

1112
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: Equal island. Equality is equality.

1113
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: No one would watch everyone would watch it.

1114
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: No one watch and guess what it's not. They're not

1115
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: going to treat one another as equals. Let me tell

1116
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: that because I've heard of this Damford prison experiment. That's

1117
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: not how it turned out. Okay, here's my proposal is

1118
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: there is only one solution. We have to break the

1119
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: law in order to make an actually good dating show.

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00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: There's no way to make a good dating show when

1121
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: there are waivers involved. And so someone needs to step

1122
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 2: up and be willing to go to jail in order

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00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: to make a dating show that is good. And then

1124
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: we can stop making dating shows forever. And I think

1125
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: what needs to happen is you need to pick a restaurant,

1126
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 2: and I'm talking like a sort of mid tier tapas restaurant,

1127
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: a place that people go for dates, for straight dates.

1128
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: You need to pick a restaurant. Everyone you know, everyone

1129
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: there needs to be in on it. Everyone that works there.

1130
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: They need to be heading cameras and for one year

1131
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 2: you film people going there on dates and then at

1132
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: the end you make a documentary.

1133
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: Yes, and then you and let me tell you, when

1134
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: chips and dip are involved, people are their realist. Okay,

1135
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 3: there's nobody's being bougie when they have to use their

1136
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 3: actual hand to pick up something and put it in

1137
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: their mouth.

1138
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, wow, I'm trying to think of what a

1139
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: fun reality show would be. I'm like, what, what have

1140
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: we not done yet?

1141
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1142
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: I'm done at all.

1143
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: Okay, we've been in So it's called Drunk and Love

1144
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: and drunk and Love and they're drunk and they're well

1145
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: they are alcoholics, and they're promised an all expense paid

1146
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: bar crawl. Actually they have to fall in love and

1147
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: there's no alcohol.

1148
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: So they're non recovering alcohol.

1149
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: No, they're just they just love the drunkcoholics.

1150
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, got it. The people that are I guess I

1151
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: could work.

1152
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm actually gagging. I'm gagging to the fullest

1153
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 3: because one, if you get alcoholics in a room and

1154
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 3: they can't have alcohol, I would love to see their personality.

1155
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 3: I would love to see.

1156
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: That's actually a good point and it's actually ethical because

1157
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: you are getting you are getting I mean, obviously the

1158
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: challenge becomes, how do you find people who are alcoholics

1159
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: that have not admitted to themselves yet? But let's say

1160
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: somehow you do? You know, you put out a castle.

1161
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, you're literally like you know, your friend,

1162
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: your uncle, your aunt, the one that you think, you're like,

1163
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: literally gonna have a what's it called intervention for her

1164
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: next week? Lay at a month, We'll put her on TV.

1165
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: You'll make a you'll make a quick buck before you

1166
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: have the intervention, and guess what, we'll keep them sober.

1167
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: We'll keep them sober, and so it's in it's in

1168
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: her best interest.

1169
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 1: And then after I mean, it's literally intervention in the show.

1170
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: But but Horny, yeah, okay, I actually I am obsessed

1171
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: with this idea. I mean, you're getting people, You're getting

1172
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: people who would have been cast for intervention, and you're saying,

1173
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: wait one more month, we're going to keep you super

1174
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: don't worry, wait one more month, we're going to do

1175
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: a dating show. First, as you're going through it, and it.

1176
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 3: Takes and it takes twenty one days to change a

1177
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: bad habit. So in a month they'll be over the hump.

1178
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 3: I don't know how horny they'll be, but they'll be

1179
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 3: over the hump, right. I don't know if there'll be

1180
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: any love involved besides love bombing. They'll be love bombing

1181
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: to get some dics, but.

1182
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: There will be love bombing.

1183
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: Wow, George, this is a great idea.

1184
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: This sounds this sounds really problematic. Yeah, and I and

1185
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: good TV?

1186
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 3: Is it problematic?

1187
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: I actually have no idea. I'm my compass is sort

1188
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: of off these days.

1189
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 3: Because if you think about it, if you think about it,

1190
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 3: intervention is also problematic because someone's showing up thinking they're like, oh,

1191
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: we're about to have a party just with ice cream

1192
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: and pizza, and it's like you are a piece of

1193
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: shit and we're tired of you, and we're tired of

1194
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: this disease and you need help and you don't get it.

1195
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 3: We're getting out of your life. That's kind of fucked up.

1196
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: No, yeah, that's kind of fucked up. That's rough.

1197
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, so when I get out of rehab,

1198
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: I'm not fucking with you, even though you claim they're

1199
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 3: supposed to help me. I hate you. I fucking hate you.

1200
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: The only point I have to make is that I

1201
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: genuinely think in the show people would find love. Well,

1202
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: oh my god, did you guys decide the opera?

1203
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 3: They have to fight?

1204
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: Well, because I'm like they've been they're at their lowest,

1205
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: they're out their most vulnerable. I don't think all of

1206
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: them would find love. I think most of them would

1207
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: have a very bad time. Yeah, but I think two

1208
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: people out of the twenty people that are cast will

1209
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: be together. They won't and they will have the most incredible.

1210
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 3: You can have twenty alcoholics.

1211
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: We're not giving them any alcohol. We're not giving them

1212
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: any alcohols, so it's ethical. So you can take her

1213
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: complaints to legal I.

1214
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: Don't know if you've ever gone through withdraw bitch, but

1215
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 3: somebody's getting murdered, someone is getting strong. Twenty people.

1216
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: Nah, well, well, it's hosted by Jesse j oh No,

1217
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: you know what it's hosted by. It has to be

1218
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: hosted by a famously sober celebrity. So who could that be?

1219
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: Because that that gives it the sense of authenticity. I'm

1220
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: gonna look up sober celebrities.

1221
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: Is there a funny one?

1222
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 3: Robert Downey Jr. I think I think he is sober.

1223
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: He's got you like, he's got to have like a

1224
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 3: wrangler to make sure when he's on set that he's

1225
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 3: not getting into anything he's filming.

1226
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: So here's what I'll say. This is, in fact, who

1227
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: is who has to host it? Dax Shepherd. What he's sober,

1228
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: he's a huge TV personality. I'm not saying he's my choice. Listen,

1229
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I'm like going to bat for

1230
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: Dak Shepherd. But realistically, if you're having this straight reality

1231
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 2: show that is about sobriety, he's a very you know,

1232
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: he's a famous sober person with a huge audience.

1233
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: Well, our producer Olivia is also sent a list of names,

1234
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: and I have to say, Nicki Minaj is the funniest suggestion,

1235
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: and I think she should host the show. He's sober,

1236
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: That's okay, But according to Olivia.

1237
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, man they've when they so.

1238
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: One of the other options is Chrissy Teagan according to Olivia,

1239
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: and I do think again not to I know, I'm

1240
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: thinking like an executive here with my Dax Shepherd suggestion,

1241
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: but Chrissy Teagan is who they would choose absolutely.

1242
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: The only problem. The only problem is is that she's

1243
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 3: notoriously known for me me me, me, me, me, me,

1244
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 3: me me, right, so somehow it'll be wrapped right around her,

1245
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 3: and we need people to we we can't have a

1246
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: famous host because it needs about to be about the contestants.

1247
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: When there's a famous host, that like is a distraction.

1248
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 3: That's why Nick Lache and Vanessa are great because okay,

1249
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 3: well they were famous.

1250
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that's so true.

1251
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: Wait, Sydney, would you do it?

1252
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 3: Me? Yes? I would. The problem is I am, I

1253
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: am sober. The problem is is that you need somebody

1254
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 3: who's uplifting and and I'm just too real.

1255
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I think you have been very uplifting this

1256
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: entire time I actually participant.

1257
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 3: And now this is when you have turned. Now you're

1258
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 3: a good gay man because you're like queen, yes, bitch, yes.

1259
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: Sidney, Sidney, why are you resisting your destiny? Why are

1260
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: you resisting your destiny of being the host of the

1261
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: world's most immoral dating But.

1262
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 3: You know what it would be tea because then there's

1263
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: like love is blind and but we should have Jessica

1264
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 3: Simpson host this sober one and you know the rating

1265
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 3: out the roof.

1266
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, Jessica Simpson. It is.

1267
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: It could also be commentary on other shows, because other

1268
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: shows do like feed them alcohol to make them funk

1269
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: up and be bad, and so it could be fun

1270
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: to be like, no, we're not, I'm actually actively not exploitive.

1271
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's sort of like taking it too far

1272
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 2: in the other we're.

1273
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: Actually locking them up and throwing away the key.

1274
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: We're locking up these very vulnerable people who have an

1275
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 2: addiction and we are making them go through withdrawal for

1276
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: people's entertainment.

1277
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 3: And you know, the crazy thing is is that there's

1278
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 3: so many like industry people listening to your pod. The

1279
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 3: show is going to be on. Somebody is listening now,

1280
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 3: writing down every little thing, and they're like, pitching the

1281
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 3: show tomorrow. We need immediately.

1282
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: Now. All I want to do is think of more

1283
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: of these ideas.

1284
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna have to talk to your people. You're

1285
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 3: gonna have to talk to your people. I know, if

1286
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 3: you want to have me as a host, obviously I'm available.

1287
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 3: But I really think Jessica Simpson would be the perfect

1288
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: one because then she could just it could really just

1289
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: be about her competing against Nick Lache and Vanessa. But

1290
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 3: she's already went. She doesn't have to compete because she's

1291
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 3: a billionaire. She's one, right, he's he's he's got to

1292
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: be on a Netflix show handhandling fucking love and she's

1293
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 3: out here like you see these sturdy esper drills. Yeah,

1294
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 3: billionaire bitch.

1295
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: Damn wow.

1296
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well listen if anyone listening is interested

1297
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 2: in either the horny Island with gay men, sober Island

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01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: with non recovering alcoholics, oh my other idea about the

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Speaker 2: illegal one with y I need.

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01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: The people to talk about this in the comments. I

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01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 3: need people to say yes or no and the reason

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01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,959
Speaker 3: why I know yes, no reason why.

1303
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a call to action.

1304
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 3: I'm not a host. I'm not a host, but this

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01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 3: is a call to action to the listeners. I'm gonna

1306
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 3: need it now. You guys have to repeat this. You're

1307
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: gonna have to repeat this.

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01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: Can we name each of them so that people like

1309
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: can talk about them in the comments? It was we

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01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: have four options.

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01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: Drunken love was the premise.

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01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: For that is great because the alcoholic are gonna follow

1313
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 3: up thinking like, oh we get in drunk and they're like.

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01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: A lo o L yes exactly.

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: You're drunk.

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01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: Horney Island, drunken Love, top top, what's the tapas one

1317
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: called topping?

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01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 3: Topping for tapas?

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01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: No, what's like surveillance tapas or surveillance surveillance sweethearts?

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01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I like.

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01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: That surveillance Sweethearts, surveillance Sweethearts?

1322
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: I want that?

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01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, great? And then did we have one more? Oh? Sam,

1324
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 2: drunk oh drunken love? One was your?

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01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: Okay?

1326
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: So those are the three?

1327
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: Okay?

1328
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: Great?

1329
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: Well e should we do our final segment?

1330
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 2: Sound off in the comments?

1331
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: Sound off in the comments. Let's do it, okay, Sydney.

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01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: Our final segment is called shout Outs, and in it

1333
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the

1334
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: radio shout out, and we shout out to anything that

1335
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: we are enjoying. Imagine it sees one and you're at

1336
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: Times Square TRL shouting out to your squad back home,

1337
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: but about anything that you like? George, do you have one?

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01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 2: I do?

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01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:12,959
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes? Good?

1340
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: Go hoop off? Okay, what's up listeners out there?

1341
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: Ver?

1342
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 2: So all, I want to give a hardy apology for

1343
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: my WiFi going off and for my haunted electric raser

1344
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 2: going off as well.

1345
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: But you know what.

1346
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes you get what you get, and as a LGBTQ

1347
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: plus creator, I can't always do everything perfectly. And the

1348
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: fact that I'm showing vulnerability on camera and on mike

1349
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: is more than many of my peers have done during

1350
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: their careers. Having said that, I want to give a

1351
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: shout out to journaling on computer and not on a notebook.

1352
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: For so long I have thought that you need a

1353
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 2: notebook and you need a pen and paper to journal.

1354
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 2: Why because I guess I grew up reading Judy Bloom,

1355
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: God bless her. But guess what, it is a twenty

1356
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: first century. It is twenty twenty three, and we can't

1357
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 2: be nostalgic for pen and paper anymore. It is reactionary.

1358
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: It is conservative, and it is republican. We have to

1359
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: move forward, and we have to use technology. We have

1360
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 2: to tame technology before it tames us. And you know

1361
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,479
Speaker 2: how we're gonna do that by journaling on Google Drive.

1362
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: Put it on the cloud. I don't care who sees it,

1363
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: and I don't care who reads it, because guess what,

1364
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: I can type faster that way, and I don't write

1365
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: as fast, and so I'm not gonna get all my

1366
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: thoughts down on paper as fast as when I do

1367
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: it on Google Drive. So get out there, make a

1368
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: document on Google Drive, and how about start to write

1369
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: down some thoughts before it's too fucking like, whoa.

1370
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: Wow, I have been doing this too. I think it's

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01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: so genius. It's so much better because there were so

1372
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: many times where'd be like, oh, I would journal, but

1373
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: I have my notebook and I have to get a pen,

1374
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: and then it would be like, just do it at

1375
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: your computer, you stupid idiot. And it's changed everything.

1376
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's actually yeah no, it is so like

1377
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: journaling with pen and paper is very sort of like

1378
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: oh school vinyl fetishizing cassettes. It's stated, it's just like, relax,

1379
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 2: you're not Jack carrollac.

1380
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I don't think I've done this one before,

1381
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: but stop me if I have what's up everyone around

1382
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: the globe. I want to give a huge shout out

1383
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: to Manhattan mornings. That's right. I have been going into

1384
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: Manhattan sometimes in the morning and I'll go to the

1385
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: gym and then I'll go like to find out space

1386
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: to work. And it has been so fun to like

1387
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: walk down the street and be like I'm in Manhattan. Oh,

1388
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: I'm in Manhattan. It's the morning. It feels a completely

1389
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: different world. It feels a little cartoony in a way

1390
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: that I enjoy like, and it feels like, yeah, what

1391
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,440
Speaker 1: the fuck? Like for so long, I've had such a

1392
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 1: you know, Brooklyn and even on top of that, north

1393
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: Brooklyn centric idea of NY City, and I'm starting to

1394
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,959
Speaker 1: be like, wait a minute, you can just go anywhere

1395
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: and they're actually all different and it's so fun. So

1396
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: I've been really enjoying Manhattan. I know that I could

1397
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 1: never afford it, and but it's fun to spend the

1398
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 1: morning there and walk and listen to headphone ven, drink

1399
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: coffee xxo, Sam's very cute.

1400
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: You are so.

1401
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm so what George? So what say?

1402
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 3: Door?

1403
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 2: You're just so You're so Bushwick centric? I fail, You're

1404
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 2: so Bushwick centric. Like I really feel like every time

1405
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 2: you were in Manhattan, you're like, what am I? Carrie Bradshaw.

1406
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: I really when I'm in Manhattan, I feel like I

1407
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: moved here yesterday, Like it's truly like wow. And even

1408
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: like I was in the East Village and like seeing

1409
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: like you know, like the forty something like punks, and

1410
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: I was like, how like lame is this like pretending

1411
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: like you're this edgy thing when you're paying like a

1412
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: shit ton of money for rent and like it's all

1413
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: a facade. And then I was like, wait a minute,

1414
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: that's literally the same as me. But in bush Like,

1415
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh damn, okay, let's grow up, mama,

1416
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 1: and it.

1417
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 2: Was it was nice, let's grow up and become a

1418
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: forty year old crustpunk and we.

1419
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: Like, let's let's stop pretending that like Bushwick is somehow

1420
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: more valid than yeah, these other people. I feel like

1421
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm like either cutting out or making really no sense.

1422
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Okay, Sydney, whenever you're ready, let's let's

1423
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: fucking go.

1424
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 3: Okay. I would like to give a big ass shout

1425
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 3: out to vander pomp Rules, because you know what, I

1426
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 3: don't have shit to talk about, and when I get

1427
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 3: to the place and everybody's talking about it, I pretend

1428
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 3: I know what I'm fucking talking about. I just want

1429
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: to thank Lisa for putting these fucking fools together in

1430
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 3: a restaurant or a bar. I don't know what it is.

1431
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 3: I would never step foot in, but you know what,

1432
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 3: the drama is hot and the food is cold. I

1433
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 3: love that Ronquelle or Rachel or whatever this whore is

1434
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 3: is sleeping with people's man and acting so o on

1435
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 3: the show. It makes a good show. This is a

1436
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 3: bad show, but good show because you know what, you

1437
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: know what, the world is on fire, but this is

1438
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 3: a great distraction. And when I'm not talking about Stacy

1439
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 3: and her not being on the show, or that other

1440
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 3: girl that's who's blonde, who's got a bad attitude, or

1441
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 3: what's her name, what's her name? Oh? Oh oh, but

1442
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 3: La La, Yes, La La, talking about La La and

1443
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 3: you know her weird plastic surgery botox face. I mean, listen,

1444
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed, and so it sounds like I know what

1445
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm talking about, but I don't. I've just been listening

1446
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 3: to the conversations at parties and at outings and makes

1447
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 3: me feel like I'm a part of the culture, but

1448
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm not. So I just want to thank this really good,

1449
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 3: bad show for bringing all walks of life together to

1450
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 3: hate on Roquel.

1451
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,879
Speaker 1: Beautiful, so beautiful.

1452
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 3: That was a lot.

1453
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: It was.

1454
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,799
Speaker 3: It was everything and nothing. So I'm proud of myself.

1455
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: It was everything.

1456
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: No, I love it, and so I hadn't watched it

1457
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: in many, many years, and I finally broke down when

1458
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 2: I was home in Greece. I watched two full seasons. Yes,

1459
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: I just like whenever everyone else would go to sleep,

1460
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: I would go to my bedroom and watch it. And

1461
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: it's I'm really back in it. I'm back in it

1462
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 2: in a bad way.

1463
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: It is.

1464
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 3: I didn't mention that, like, is that you giving me

1465
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 3: the light?

1466
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: Can you believe that it started? Write it? No, it

1467
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: literally just started again. It started again. As we're having

1468
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 2: literally three different kinds of connectivity issues, my razors started

1469
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: up again. All right, you know what I'm using it?

1470
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: This is this is now a weapon and I hate

1471
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 2: to say about it.

1472
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,879
Speaker 1: Sydney, thanks for doing the podcast.

1473
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 3: I just want to say that I never know if

1474
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 3: it went well or it didn't, but I do know

1475
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 3: that we finally saw each other and it felt good

1476
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 3: seeing your faces, you know.

1477
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And I agree with that as well.

1478
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: Sidney. There is no one else I would want to

1479
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: spend a Tuesday afternoon with, And there is no one

1480
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: else I would want to show my razor. I am.

1481
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 3: I've never felt this more special in my life, and

1482
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 3: I just want to I just want you to know

1483
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 3: that you are shifting the culture you know that. Well, well,

1484
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 3: everybody is doing shaving.

1485
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: We are shaving the culture.

1486
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 3: Outside doing man on the street in stupid parks. You

1487
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 3: guys are in in the house, in the pods, dissecting

1488
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 3: straight culture.

1489
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: We're in We're in the pods, in the Love Is

1490
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: Blind pods.

1491
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: All right, well, folks, we're in the Love is Blind Pods.

1492
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 2: The going off razor is going off and it's thank

1493
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: you everyone, goodbye.

1494
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 3: Wow, we did it, Joe.

1495
01:13:46,400 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: Isn't this insane